Mercedes ML 2006 rear SAM repair. No tail lights, no remote etc... Fault finding and repair.
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This Mercedes ML 6.3 AMG 2006, came to me with a few issues... tail lights and remote not working, boot not opening etc...
Was easy to suspect of a problem with the rear SAM, but much more difficult to repair it....
Follow me on this video to see what was wrong and how I have repaired it.
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Flux used: NC-559-ASM-UV
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To clean: Isopropyl Alcohol
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Fiber Glass Cleaning Pen:
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Soldering Iron: Temperature controlled soldering station.
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Hot Air Gun Station:
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Thanks for this, I just rescued my SAM with the help of this video, tail lights stayed on after pressing the brake pads, scan showed 20 error codes, so I pulled the SAM and it was full of water, the previous owner had wrapped the SAM with a plastic bag which made it even worse as the bag was filled with water. Water ingress was from the vent at the rear right side facing the bumper (apparently a known and recall issue), So right now I have a temp fix, had to pierce a hole in a rubber plug below the SAM unit, till I have time to drop the bumper and fix it properly, so should have no water in there for now as the water drains out just above the rear muffler to the ground, so will sort that out to avoid rust issues.........thanks again LM Auto Repairs!
Olukunle Adegbite
That is great!
Thank you for the feedback!
thank you for sharing your detailed investigation on water source... many chassis models probably affected by faulty vents...
Can you email me at aoel2006@aol.com. Want to hear how you did this rear sam fix. Kunle here too
A plastic bag can literally be a death sentence for your SAM especially after too much time has passed. It's incredible what some people try without completely thinking things through. Good luck in the future.
Great job on the Mercedes ML. I had the same issu on a coustomer car not along time ago. I clean the board whit tornado gun. And after cleaning whit the gun,I did use a heat gun too get it dry. Board was good as new. Everything nice and clean. I think it took me around 15 min to clean the board. Keep up the good work you are doing😁I`am a mechanic my self from Norway🇳🇴End i have watch many of your video`s. And you have give me more great idea`s too work on car. I`m impressed 👍🏻
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Thank you very much for the feedback!
Really appreciated!
Also, thank you for follow my channel and watching my video!
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What’s a tornado gun?
After cleaning the rear SAM do you coat it with any dielectric grease or anything to prevent future corrosion ? Wish we could all find a man like this to take the time and initiative to actually repair a car rather than just push us into buying an expensive replacement. Well done sir!
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I use a a kind of a varnish to seal the board...
I used it in this one, and many others... just forgot to mention...😊
Conformal Coating can be used
Thank you for the description!
I just did the same repair on a W164 and it worked perfectly. Your video saved me a lot of time and money.
Keep up the good work and thanks again!
fil23873
That's great!
Thank you for watching and for the feedback!
The owner of the car just told me that he called Mercedes and asked about their price for the repair, just out of curiosity. They asked for the chassis number and called him back 30 min later. They would have charged 600 EUR for a new SAM, plus 300 EUR for the exchange, plus taxes.
I do not want to bash Mercedes here. I understand that they have to charge as high as they do. I just hope they spend enough of that money in the R+D department and not give it to share holders only.
@@fil23873 I am having this exact issue with my 2006 ML350 and am so furious with mercedes right now. That is a terrible location for such an important piece of electronics.
@@Spacecraft_Repair The water comes in through the gaskets of the rear lights. You can buy a set of new modified gaskets from Mercedes for the rear lights (I don't recall if this was already mentioned in the video above, sorry).
Apparently this solved the issue with the rain water leaking into this part of the chassis. Part numbers are: A1648261691
and A1648261591.
@@fil23873 Thank you!
Did You cover both sides of this SAM PCB plate (same with front SAM) with poliurethane lack? Did You recover proper sealing of 2 blank caps rear left and right on top of D pillar (under outside plastic cover)? That causes this problem with humidity both sides in trunk under left and right panel lining and damages SAM because through this caps each ML has water leak to inside.
Pretty amazing finding that SAM problem so quickly. Love yur Autel scanner too. That might b my next one.
Hi Brent!
I might was lucky... lol
It is a nice scanner indeed...
Thank you for watching!
Ah hahh anothee great easy fix. I try to explain this to so many people. But they dont get it. Guess us mercedes builders are a different breed
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Possibly...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Hi where in UK are you? I have a rear sam issue and would like to bring the 2006 model of this car to you. You did a good presentation.
This is class because its almost identical to the ml280fault codes im seeing myself on a customers car.
WOW!!! Awesome job on cleaning the rear SAM pc board.
Robert Bakley
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Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Great video on a known problem of the w164 ML. What did you use to seal the taillight seals? Thank you.
@LM Auto Repair: OMG sooo helpful I just subscribed😊 how did you remove the plates you didn’t show that I’m going to do that because I have no tail lights at all didn’t know what was wrong WOW thanks a bunch 💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽
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Are referring to the black sockets?
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
LM Auto Repairs Yes
@@kimberlylewis7584
Using a desoldering vacuum station...
Links in the video description...
It is great that you could save the PCB of the rear SAM. It would have been nice to see the actual repair steps, though. It is clear what to do in principle, but it is better to see the actual work (e.g., regarding the amount of pressure to use, etc.).
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Thanks... I will try to remember that next time...
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you're an Ace, specially with removing all those R-SAM connectors without busting any multilayer PCB vias !!!
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Thanks!
For watching and for your comment!
i had same problem on focus 2003, rear lights plus fob few lights on dash , i just taken out Control Module, and put heat gun to it now all works fine
holly may
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Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Thank you for your video! How did you remove the black plug housing? Do you have to desolder them? Or can you just pull them out? Thanks!
If I recall correctly, needs desolder...
Thank you for watching!
@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks for getting back with me! I'll give it a go!
Fair play the plugs removed from Sam was a big enough job but repair not replace top marks again 👍👍👍👍
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Thanks!
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hello , thank you for you help , really appreciate it . do you have any experience with W211 Edc 16C2 , i have two cases that , the clients car after bad battery did not start or crank , after replacing with new on the problem was resolved . i have opened them to check for any blown transistors , but looks good. may be there is dump problem and can it be resolved ? thanks again
This is really helpful! The best thorough video on RUclips/internet! Good job mate
Muhammad Miah
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Thank you for watching and for your comment!
lmsvvavr I wish you could have a look at mine. I am losing the will to live with my one.
Wat a video thks alot i got e55 w211 and my leftside headlights nd foglamp not wrking it shows faulty display im gona check the rear sam
Good luck!
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Me sirvió de mucho! he reparado la tarjeta del SAM de mi ML350 gracias a este vídeo. Te felicito.
Alonso Alpizar
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Good to know it helped you!
Thank you for watching!
como lo realizaste?, se debe cambiar algun componente?, tengo problemas con luces traseras, flotador de combustible y apertura porton trasero.
No... I have only reflow the board... as explained in the video....
Thank you for watching!
este es el mejor video de esta clase de problema gracias this is the best video about that kind the problem tks.
josefamixe
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Hello again LM I'm in desperate need of your assistance.. I have not found the issue with my rear hatch power issue it's not funtioning . I just found out that the fog lights ambient temp sensor high beams I think the bulbs may be blown high high beams are not working I did however repair the fuel door switches complete system out to find that the connector wires were cut or torn I spliced back together that now works
Job well done and Great video! Really enjoy watching it. May I ask what Autel Maxisys you are using? also if you do replace a bad rear SAM with a used one do you need to have it programmed by a Mercedes Dealer? Thanks in advance,Keep up the good work.
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I am using the MS908P.
You might get away without having to program it, but to get full functionality you might need... the MS908P will be able to do it...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs , Thank you for the super fast reply/answer!! my 04 S600 starts up fine but brake lights stays On and hard to shift out of the Park position, do you think it's SAM related that's causing a short?
@@nicksilverman3333
Don't waste time or money by throwing parts at it...
Scan the car, analyse live data etc... and go from there... otherwise it can become very expensive, very quickly, and with no results at all...
Hope it makes sense...
@@LMAutoRepairs You are absolutely right and that's why I asked about the scanner you are using, wish I am near you to have it checked by you Hahaha.. and really want to see you to have your own work shop/Garage open soon if not already. Love your videos!
Thanks for the video ! I have the same problem, how do you remove the connectors from the board ?
Desoldering gun with vacuum and then some heat....👍👍👍
Great job. Just subscribed. I have an issue with my near side rear number plate bulb not working on my SLK 350. I have replaced the bulb but still not working. I am guessing it's a problem with the rear SAM. Do you have a website? Thanks. Jon.
No... I don't...
Trace the wire and check connections to start with...
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Hi, Thank you very much for this video. I've removed my rear SAM from a 2007 ML320CDI but have been unable to clean underneath the plastic towers. How did you remove them? I tried following the links in your description but they take you to an ebay page that says the item is sold out. If using a heat gun does that mean that they are melted in place with those black plastic pins that stick through the back of the board? If that is the case, how do you reattach once you've melted them off? What % alcohol did you use? I used CRC QD Electronics Cleaner and it's been less than perfect at removing everything.
Hi
As much as I try to keel updating the links as the sellers stop selling or the items became unavailable, is nearly impossible...😔
I have now updated all the links, all you need is in those links... plus a lot of patience....
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Great job, again a lot of money saved for the customer.
jix177
Definitely!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for sharing a great video. I got 2008 E350, the fuel gauge shows empty all the time even the tank is full. I checked both sending sensors in the gas tank, both is good. Do you think it could be the rear SAM module problem? I already located the SAM module but have not remove it yet. I though I will get a replacement SAM first before I start taking it out.
There is a good possibility that is the rear sam... As is the rear sam that processes the fuel tank sensors signals...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
I have the same problem w164. the fuel gauge shows full all the time. I did cleaned the sam all problem solved except fuel gauge, and front seats not working. Could you please give me the circuit board diagram for rear sam to identify which chips are responsible to be fixed.
By the way my seat belts tensions can't retract, is that related to the same problem.
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Thanks your videos mate.
I've go right now the same problem but I have cleaned the rear sam but still the same problem, I think is damaged and looking for one to replace it but is so expensive.
Any option to fix it?? If you know some one doing this job ??
Thank you for your help.
Used are not that expensive... Still a bit, but better than new...
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I appreciate that
thanks for the video, my GL450 left hand version with a remote that doesn´t work properly, just by IR and now i supposed that could be the rear SAM but i don´t have the scan tool that you have and the price of a new rear SAM is very high to verify with a new one if is that the problem or not, any comments about my situation?, thanks in advance
Hi
Check it visual... if there is water ingress, which is a common problem, then you might have your answer...
That said, a second hand Sam will work, it is just that will most likely need coding to the features of your car...
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Great video thanks but my problem is trying to get it out if I could get the fuse box out of the way it might be easier, but can't get the block connectors off the back, so struggling to get the Sam modal out at the min, any help would be appreciated thank you👍
Excellent video .. I have 2006 ml500 I'm havinf no power to the rear hatch lock and fuel filler door would they happen to be on the same fuse or can bus link
Not sure without checking diagrams... but possibly... the rear sam controls usually most of those rear functions...
Thank you for watching!
@@LMAutoRepairs where could I find the diagram for the circuitry any help would be appreciated
Out there...
Google will help you...
That said, if I checked it correctly, the fuel tank lock goes to rear sam plug G pins 34 and 35, for the rear hatch switch plug F pin 7... but for the lock, there is a separate module... I believe in the boot door itself... all plugged into plug F...
Hope that helps...
Mann thankyou 🙏about to go read it and check it out
Hi, I tried same but didnt help me. It was smaller but it looks one black part it completely burned. What is approx price of new part in UK?
Hello, I have Mercedes x164 and I once in a while I get no sound from the amp once it rains. Guessing this has to do with the rear sam. I have Mercedes star computer.
Have you investigated/checked the area for water ingress?
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Great video, thanks :) I'm trying to trace a trunk fault after replacing the battery, I have had some water ingress in the rear left wheel well (not much but it's happening) I can't spot any real corrosion, tailgate pump looks ok, rear sam not showing any signs of corrosion or water damage, fuse 40 is intact, popped to my local independent Mercedes workshop and STAR didn't show anything, they've asked me to take it back so they can trace whereabouts the water is coming from but suspect it's the rear light cluster and will go from there...... is there anything else I'm missing?
Not really... not in terms of what you explained... the water usually gets in through the light...
Some investigation should reveal where the issue with the boot...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Hello, thank you for your video. I have subscribed on both here and facebook. How do I contact you in regards to carrying these repairs to mine? Thanks
Thanks for the great video. I have the same problem after the battery went flat. I have no tail lights, remote inop, fuel gauge zero window wiper inop no signal lights. Now the shop asked me to replace the SAM. Do you need to disconnect the battery before removing for cleaning?
Thanks again
Atli Magnusson
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Advisable... but not essential...
Thank you for watching!
LM Auto Repairs I fixed it last night, Thanks allot!!! Great video
What about if i put the same one back in not a new one? Thank you for your time. I really appreciate you answering my question
That's what I have said...
If you just take it out, do whatever and put it back, will work just fine....
Great Video! Thank you for sharing. I had also the problem with a corroded rear SAM. After deep cleaning it started working but i can hear SAM humming. I am not sure whether that is ok or will SAM die soon?
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Great you got it sorted!
Check soldering points etc... see if any capacitors are too damaged, and replace them...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs many thanks for your prompt reply. Much appreciated!
@@jochenklein3358
Not a problem!...
Great vid, but.... I whish you showed how to take off the pcb board from the black housing. Those little black clips keep them connected. I tried a lot. And the huge electric tower connectors?... how do you remove those?...
Thanks in advance!!
Okay I found out myself. The sides of the black comnectors have clips on each side that need to be pressed in.. than press the first connector through the housing and continue to all have been done this way.... of course first the side clips must be pressed in to take the two pieces apart
Like your video 👍 i have a 03 clk500 w209 having problems with my rear taillights as well i believe it's the rear sam control if i remove it will i have to reprogram it? Is this true
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If you replace it most likely yes...
Just remove it and put it back... no...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Hello my friend.. my ML 350 2010 wasn’t lock and unlocked and everything else was working perfect,, I removed the rear sam and had water inside. I cleaned with electronics cleaner and looks perfect., after I reinstalled now nothing is working, no reverse light no signal no liftgate no wipers etc. what you think ? Do that need to reprogram when you remove ?
Most likely a dry solder somewhere...
Inspect it very carefully...
No reprogramming needed when you remove it etc...
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for you answer.. i have and one more question please. I see i have no power in same fuses on rear fuse box. Is that from sam not working good ??
And one conector on a small chip looks broken
Thank you for the great job,I was wondering if you could tell me how did you remove the plastic connectors.
Hot Air Gun...
Thank you for watching!
LM hope all is well , so I unplugged and checked rear Sam did not really look bad or water logged i reinststalled ran codes 20 for rear Sam I cleared and rechecked only 3 came back 90BE ,90BA ,90B6
CODE READS 90BE, THE LINE FROM COMPONET N10/8 REAR SAM CONTROL UNIT (PIN F.12) TO COMPONET A72 REAR DOOR LOCK UNIT PIN 1.10 HAD A OPEN CIRCUIT OR SHIRT TO GROUND.
I FOUND PIN F.12 .BUT WHAT IS OR WHERE IS PIN 1.10 ITS THREE CODES LIKE THIS F. 11 TO PIN 1.3
AND F. 13 TO PIN 1.3 .. I CAN FIND THE F PINS BUT WHERE ARE THE NUMBER PINS 🙏🏽Your help would be greatly appreciated.. thanks again
Sounds like a wiring issue...
Yes I beleieve so but where can I find pin 1.3 in the lock connector ? Help if possible
Great vid, very interesting and i must add "eye opener" in my case.
I have w219 and my problem is dynamic seats, sometimes work other time doesn't . After i watched your vid i realised that my air compressor (in trunk) doesn't get power .... I will take out rear SAM and see can i fix it .. Ones again thank you for sharing knowledge ..
No worries...
Hope you get it sorted!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs Matre, do you have by any chance wiring diagram for w219? Dynamic seats in particular? thank you in advance
@@ZoranNinkovic
I do on my Star laptop...
But, have you googled it?
@@LMAutoRepairs I did , but to no avail... Thanks
As always brilliant video! Like me you are not a mechanic who likes to throw new parts at a problem. Very well done at attacking the board problem head on lol it did looked very bad.
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Did you find the cause of the leak? I did the same thing to my GL several years back. Cleaned, reflowed, and reassembled. I did replace the taillight gasket at that time, but I did not see any signs of water intrusion. I am wondering if there is another source of water intrusion I have not found. I reached into the rear well where the sam is located, and it felt damp. I don't know where the water is coming from. I ended up sealing up the whole Sam unit into a gallon zip lock bag for peace of mind.
benohsaurus
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Not, same as you, I could not find where the water was coming from...
I know there is a common issue on the earlier models, is I am not mistaken...
Thank you for watching!
very nice video..... I think water has entered in SAM, but luckyly there isn't any short circuit?
Dev Dessai
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Thank you for watching!
It was what looked like... or a lot of moisture....
Saved me a fortune luckily not as bad as that but a tooth brush with some alcohol glass wipes worked a treat.
Just need to get new rear light seals and fix to the car not the light unit as that's the cause of the water ingress
That's great!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Hello, good job guys. thank you for this video. I would like to ask you a question about the hotel maxisys: please give me a link because I'm looking to bay a good diagnostic system,
thank you very match Omar
Check the official Autel Website... you can't really go wrong that way...
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Hello I have ml 2008 320 after battery dead my rear lights are working, my remote work only if I near to driver door and my fuel gauge not work , interior light not work if I open door... If I open door nothing apper on display, my car locking automatically even is front door opened is this Sam module fault
Nice job, I have a 09 gl450 no turn signal light, no wipers and fan it's on high. I can't comunnicat with any module. I have the same scanner
Luxury Auto's
It looks like you have a network problem...
Either wiring, or one of the modules...
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for this.
Can't believe that board was savable. Did you apply conformal coating afterwards?
Yes I did...
I failed to mention it i think...
Thank you for watching!
hi mate
were in UK are you
and on a 2007 if you get used sam
if parts numbers are the same is it plug and pay
They will be plug and play, but might needs coding to adjust to your car specs...
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Clever Guy ! Thanks , I had similar problem on a Merc Van.
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Thanks!
@@LMAutoRepairs The front SAM on my Mercedes Van was damaged due to my own fault - converting side marker lights , side lights , number plate lights and cab light to l.e.d.'s -
SAM unit permanently broke and I ended up sourcing a second hand one , so it was a lesson learnt regarding using l.e.d.'s !
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Hi, I have a 2008 Mercedes R-350 4matic and I'm having problems with my tailgate. Opens with remote, door button & tailgate handle, but doesn't close from none of this options not even from tailgate button. When I pressed any of this doesn't do nothing at all, no noise, or anything to let me know that its sending the signal. It's like if its death. The only thing it does it's that the tailgate button light its on.
The last time My tailgate stopped working, I pressed the close tailgate button, but door only closed halfway, then it open by itself all the way (like if there was sensing something on the way), then I tried to close it again, and it will come back to open position, but not all the way. So I keep pressing it a couple of times, I pressed one time, then I hold the button to see if would open all the way, then I keep pressing it a couple of times.This happens like 3 times, then it stopped. What I don't get it's why opens, but doesn't close.
I checked the tailgate lift control unit module inside board but looks like new. Then I also checked the rear sam board and looks like new too.
Do you think I unprogrammed it, and now needs to be reprogram?
Can you please help me to troubleshoot. Thank you.
I would start by scan the car and look at some live data... see if the ecu is seeing the closing signal etc...
But...
ruclips.net/video/5Jl_poF35_A/видео.html
Myself or a fellow member, will be more than happy to help!
Thank you for watching!
SAM modules 100% 👍🏻
Wow that looks bad, I had to replace five IC's on my Mercedes c230 fuse box located in the trunk, one IC was the VND830 & the other four were VND810 very easy to install.
Hi
Well done!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
I have this same issue going on right now. If we replace the motherboard do you have to have the vehicle reprogrammed to the new panel?
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Most likely...
For the most part everything should work...
But depending on the options and features, might be stuff that will need coding to the specifics of your car...
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for sharing! I'm around disassemble the rear Sam of my w203. There are any trick to remove those layers and finally reach the board? I'm afraid of cause a worse damage.
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What layers are you referring to?
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs in the side where are all silver connectors, there are at least 4 layers of plastic. That area is my best guess to find how to open the cover and reach the board.
I decided to buy another SAM but now, in half way, i want to see the proper way...hehe
I am in the middle of this process and cannot figure out how to get the plugs off the circuit board so I can clean underneath. Can you help me out? Unfortunately, that portion is missing from your video. Thanks in advance.
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I use a vacuum desolder gun, and then the hot air gun to remove them... a quite standard procedure...
Sorry if I missed that bit...
@@LMAutoRepairs That is kinda what I thought...Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work!
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I have 2008 ml63 Mercedes, sometimes my key don't read, now I have no tailgate.. Tailgate does not go up and down anymore. I notice that the lights on the tailgate button has no lights.. Do you think it is the rear Sam?
Could be... get it inspected...
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Thank you for watching!
How can i get in touch with you i have the aame problem 2001 ml430
You just did...😊
You either have it repaired, or replace the unit... you can fit a second hand one, pretty much plug and play... might need some coding though...
Thank you for watching!
Hello Imsvvavr, a lot of skills to repair this board ! Could you mention what tools did you use to remove the plaugs ? Thanks
diateca
Thank you for watching!
The tools I have a essentially a temperature controlled soldering iron, a hot air gun, and a desoldering station...
The desoldering station is definitely the most helpful for this job...
a strong heat gun
Thank you very much for sharing your experience and knowledge! A great help 👍👍👍👍👍😉
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Great video , why do you not use an ultrasonic cleaner?
Because I don't have one...😥
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Really appreciated!
You are really good at your work. Top marks 👍
benny6917
Thank you for watching!
What kind of diagnostic/programming tool are you using here? Autel MaxiSYS I see, but what model exactly? I need to program my Front SAM on my 08 ML 350, W164. Thank you!
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I use the MS908P
Thank you for watching!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks for a great video. Unfortunately, I was not as successful cleaning my front SAM as you were with your rear one. Hence the need for the programming tool and the replacement of the module. After doing further searches, I see MS908S is currently available and looks similar if not the same as MS908P. Quite pricy, but looks like a good investment!
Yes, not sure about the programming capabilities on that one... make your research, if you are going to invest with that purpose in mind...
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Thanks just increased my knowledge a whole lot keep up the good work.
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Good video, honest commentary and insightful. Thanks.
limerickcity
Thanks!
Can you tell how you got the circuit board out. Because I don't know how to basically take the board off. The board is exposed but I don't want you breaking.
Sorry... but I can't remember now... done this long time ago...
Have you opened the plastic box I suppose... usually is some tabs that release the pcb...
I know is not much if a help...
Thank you for watching!
This video helped me out massively, I’ve had the same issue on my x164 witch I’ve now sorted👍🏻
Many Thanks for taking the time to post this video ❤️
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That's great!
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How did you take off the pcb board inside the Sam? The little black clips keep it connected. Its frustrating...
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Mine had a black plastic outer cover which I very gently prised the black clips back then lifted each one up slightly to stop then pinging back in place after I did a couple the cover sort of popped off. It was a bit off a pain
The PCB board is screwed to the metal part of the SAM frame with 8 small torque screws with a layer of thin plastic to stop the PCB touching the metal part.
Hope this helps
@@timthatcher6131 Thanks Tim!
It seems as mine is a bit different.
But I got the board out of the black cover. Mine was held by the huge electrical connectors which had clips aside. After pulling them back one by one over the complete board it immediately came off...
Now I am going to clean it....
Fingers crossed 😊👍
At 0.24 in this video you can see how the pcb board comes off ruclips.net/video/LK5ccQ_IG0c/видео.html
Hi I mean in my question is it ammublaizer found inside the s a m and thanks
Hi my friend my ml 280 ewreting is working bu only back right nothing working possibilit sam module or something
Hii..m working on mercedes e250...its not starting...the rear sam module has water intrusion nd damage...can this no start be due to faulty rear sam??? also the ECM has a fault code CAN bus off...can this be due to faulty rear sam???? plzzzz advice...thank you
Yes... it is possible...
Get that sorted, and go from there...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Hiii...i guess that the rear SAM is the CAN gateway for this car as it has the CAN transciever chip TLE56890...can the rear sam be the gateway bcoz there is no other central gateway module on this car nd also m getting can bus off fault in ECM...plzzz advice...thank u
Don't think is it... you just said it is a e250... that can be several different models...
Some even have a ZGS, witch is a dedicated gateway module...
The can bus faults can be just because of the faulty sam...
You know the sam is bad, so, resolve that and go from there...
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My tail lights dont work only right side blinker works but some mechanic somehow gets them to work and it does it again what can i do to fix it?? Please help
Is this easy to remove so I can check it out myself.. I see it on the bottom of the panel.. Do you just lift it up or is it screwed down
Can't remember now...
But surely you can figure it out...👍
How do you open the SAM I can see the tabs but is there a technique or tools required so as not snap or crack the plastic?
Not really... I just use a flat screw driver...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks I did that after posting. It sort of went OK. Last tab was not happy. New problem, how to separate the board from the case.
Not sure if it's the SAM. The connector to RH light is pulling 5-6v. LH lights 0.02.
I remember something about the ML lights being under powered 🤔
@@duncanpoundcake
The board from the case, same principle...
There is I believe 1 tab on each corner of each connector..
@@LMAutoRepairs. Mine has plastic pins going through the board, keeping the connector sockets in. I'm not going there!
@@duncanpoundcakeI use credit cards to hold it in
Very informative video- thank you! you've saved me $$$$. I had the same symptoms, and when I opened up my ML rear sam it had some minor water damage ( two spots) which I've cleaned with 91 isopropyl alcohol and a tooth brush. Everything works as it should now, but I've noticed that the SAM motherboard made a buzzing sound (just right after it was connected) for couple seconds and then stopped and never reoccurred. Is that normal? Is it the capacitor gone bad? Thanks for any clarifications.
Matt Barr
Hi
It is a possibility... check also that all the soldering points are good... resolder just in case...but if has not done it again, I would not worry too much...
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LM Auto Repairs Unfortunately, all the previous symptoms have came back; now, the SAM module is making a loud clicking/ buzzing sound and when that happens the alarm goes off. Weird stuff!
Any sdvice?
Matt Barr
Hi
Just reflow all the joints etc... check that all the lanes are good... and repair any damaged ones...
LM Auto Repairs Thanks, I picked up a used SAM from eBay- I'll probably have to code it. Do I have to disconnect the auxiliary battery too before connecting the new SAM unit?
Matt Barr
Not necessary... but advisable...
You most likely will need to get it coded to the car... unless you were lucky and that came from a car with the exactly same options as yours...
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Thanks for the great video..
You saved me lots of money!
Cheul Kim
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Do you have to clean under the plugs ? I mean when its just the corner of the board corroded thats why i dont looked under the plugs because there can't be water damage logically.
Depends how bad the water ingress was... corrosion can be under the plugs as well...
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Rear Sam ctrl oll the electric and star windows everything.?
Hi, my brake lights and one of my reverse lights are not working. I've tested all the contacts on the light assembly and everything is good. Would cleaning and drying the sam fix anything or do I need to reflow? Thanks
HarryCo4
Was your SAM water/moisture damaged?
What with and how did you clean the SAM ? Thank you !!!
Hi
Read the description of the video... it is all in there!!
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Hello, I would really like to come to you and help me fixing my rear sam module. How can we do this ? Thanks again I would really appreciate it. I live in London
I am way too far...
Sorry...
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Hi thank you for this video but I am ask do ammublaizer fined in sam with thanks
game over
Hi
I am so sorry, but I don't quite understand your question/comment...
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He meant Is there an Immobilizer system inside SAM. And If I wanna know more about these SAM in Mercedes where should I get information from.?
Hussein Olivia
Hi
Ok... SAM is not part of the immobilizer... but does contains coding that needs to be adjusted to the car...
Hope that helps...
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I’m having the same issues with my 2010 s550. The only thing that appears to work is the radio and the dash illuminates. I changed out both Sam Units, and my car still acts as if a battery is not hooked up to it for anything else to work. What do you think can be the issue?
What was the codes?
Can you scan the car?
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Thanks for your response. Currently I can not scan the car for I am awaiting on the arrival of my scanner like the one you have so therefore I can scan the Sam’s Units.
@@marcusshicashepard6608
Scan the whole car and see what you got...
I presume you have checked that the battery is good, fuses etc...
Actually, that’s when the problem happened, after I changed the battery in the truck. At first, everything was working and responding. When I hit the remote fob to unlock the doors, I hear clicks from the rear Sam.
Hello friend, nice video 👍👍
I have a problem on my ML320 2008.
Both front seats are electronically not working and the externe right mirror ain't moving too. I've checked all the fuse, they all good. Have any idea where it might come from ?? Front , rear SAM? Thanks 🙏
Cordialy
Ebeid Hussein
No idea... front SAM? It is possible...
Your best next move, is scan the car...
How can I do the facelift for Mercedes-Benz cls 500 2006 rear taillights with 2009 led lights?
If the rear sam supports it, you will need to code it for the new lights...
I never done it, do your own research...
I have videos on coding the rear sam... just search the channel.
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Hello, How did you remove the pins from the electronic board?
With vacuum desoldering gun...
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Great video, nice to see it's working again after spending so much time:)
Mambre Khachatryan
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Great video 👍. #lm auto repairs
I’ve got a c200 2005 Auto Diesel 3dr hatchback, engine wouldn’t start, I’ve changed the ecu, steering column module and key transponder.
The car is now running but I have esp light coming on, central locking not working, abs light coming on and all brake lights staying on.
I’m guessing that my faulty ecu has sent a corrupt signal down the can bus line to the rear SAM module and shorted some things out.
If you see my comment, I’d appreciate your opinion on my idea?
Regards. Dave.
You need to scan the car to start with...
But, the chances are that the different VIN numbers are causing the faults...
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LM Auto Repairs ive scanned the car lots of fault codes from the front and rear SAM units, also the no communication code that you had, with the rear SAM unit, I have a B01055 and B01048 for the brake lights, that relate to the rear SAM unit and judging by your video the central locking is also controlled by the rear SAM unit the esp and abs, mileage could be to do with the instrument panel, needing syncing with the replacement ecu but it could also be related to the front SAM unit. Thanks for the reply, there are a lot of poorly shown RUclips videos, yours was the only one I found that was useful 😊👍.
LM Auto Repairs the replacement ecu is causing a problem with the instrument cluster, I think because of the vin discrepancies but I think that my problem with the brake lights, central locking, lies with the rear SAM unit.
Hey how did you clean sam modul ? With what did you clean it
Links in the description of the video... if they still work...😊
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hi could you tell me wich pins on the sam ( named also n10/3) controls wipers on slk320 r170 ?
problèm is wipers don’t want to stop when i turn them on (constantly running need to turn off ignition to stop them )
and culprit is sam as when i remove sam to swap with an other sam all work good
i open the sam but is in very good condition with no corrosion at all so it is probably an invisible little scratch somewhere that is why i need to know wich pins are involved about control of wiper in order to check very carrefully
Have you tried another SAM?
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LM Auto Repairs yes please read again my message
i swapped with an other sam and problem is gone so problem
come from my SAM but i checked it and not seen any corroded point so please tell me if you know where are the pins wich controls the wipers
Not sure without checking diagrams...
But with a multimeter you can quickly figure them out...
If you have a replacement SAM, why just not used that one?
Or you want to keep the original one?
LM Auto Repairs the replacement sam is not mine
i don’t know how to use a multimeter but if you can have diagram of slk320 SAM (n10/3) i would like to know which pins are involved in the wipers
What was the total Hours billed to the customer for that repair??
Hey can you please explain how you took the plastic connectors off i have the exact same module and I just can't take them off, what temp was your soldering iron ECT.
Hi
You need a desolder or a hot air gun... soldering iron only you have no hope...
Hope that helps...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks for quick reply I have not air gun can you explain how to do it ? When I heat up the pins the solder doesn't seem to let go
@@michalrobak3452
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Just with the soldering iron you gona struggle... as you need to heat several pins at the same time... preferably remove as much solder as you can... either with wick or with a desoldering station...
Sorry i meant I have the hot air station do I just try to heat all the pins and pull from the other side? What temperature did you set your hot air station and did the solder let go easily?
@@michalrobak3452
Ah... lol
You need to start to heat all the pins... and then slowly start to pull on the other side... it can be tricky...
More times you heat more temperature you might need to remove them... so try to go for it and do it all at once...
I will might make a video showing how I do it....
Tenho uma ML350 e o painel não acende mais, será que pode ser o módulo sam? Nenhuma oficina conseguiu arrumar
Pode ser...
Ma nada como testar e medir os circuitos que vão ao painel...
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does that SAM has anything to do with power seats. my 2010 ML350 power seats are stuck, not moving at all
Not sure...
Unless check diagrams...
@@LMAutoRepairs sooo strange. my technician insisted it's SAM problem.
Thank god u r an expert. I think i will have to find another technician.
Thanks for ur reply
Just remember, you have more than one sam... 😉
@@LMAutoRepairs non of SAM modules has anything to do witb the seats. I guess it could be the seats control module issues. that is what i figured after watching youtube videos for 5 hrs 😆
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If you had to replace the module, how would you code a new one?
Hi
If you would get a module from a car with similar options, no need coding...
Nevertheless, to code you would use Xentry/DAS or another capable tool...
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