I can almost imagine first contact going something like this Alien ambassador: “humans are a weak and pathetic species and their tech is…why do I here boss music?” A2: “captain the entire human fleet has just come out of hyper space and are targeting us!!”
People are actually pretty fragile, for example a seasoned war veteran can get put out of commission by falling down the stairs, but orbital strikes and tanks mostly negate that
Human durability is strange. Some people have died after being punched and hitting the back of their head on the pavement, but some people have survived being impaled, disemboweled, or falling out of a plane. I heard of a woman who was kidnapped, raped, tortured, left on the side of the road with her guts falling out and her throat slit so deeply she was almost decapitated and had to use one hand to keep her innards inside of her while using her other hand to prop up her flopping head while limping down the road for help. She then miraculously recovered, beat all the odds, and gave birth to 2 healthy children later in her life. Theres really no predicting what the human body can or cannot survive.
I'm reminded of what an amarican officer said about WW1. "I get the distant impression that Europe has been at war for a very long time. And that there good at it. "
@@lukasklaumannsmoller7923 So basicaly like 40% - 70% of Europe at any given time with numbers overall increasing until a 100% Just a little more than a 100 Years ago.
"I saw fire and thunder and the roil of oceans and ages long past. I saw engines of destruction and creation hitherto unheard of. I saw fields of headstones capped by weeping angels and bayonets raised in praise and ire. I saw mercy for the fallen, and wrath for those opposed. In those eyes, I saw human ambition and then I knew... They're never going to stop..."
@@asurasyn "...and they counted in the hundreds of billions -- *trillions,* even! Multiple universe lifespans-worth of experience, of both victory and defeat. Consistently built upon the foundations and failures of each generation's past, all to manifest what I can only describe to be an ultimate culmination. The fields of blood and fire are endless, and the fields of stone slates even moreso."
@@kalskirata42 When the last sun has gone cold, and the life of this universe has gone still, the endless thunder of their march shall continue unabated. They think themselves merciful, sparing those who do not oppose them. But I fear their mercy moreso than any cruelty, those they spare shall be carried along with them by will or perforce. Borne into the eternal night as they seek to tear the heavens asunder to create a new light, a new universe! One that bears their fell countenance.
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'zoo'! Unless it's a farm!
Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes. - Quark Star trek DS9
I love how Quark was supposedly the "trickster" or villainous capitalist on a show about a future communist military-run society. Somehow, he manages to be the character I liked the most.
The translator is correct. There are many names that we say that have literal translations that we don't mentally digest. Saying Mississippi River is redundant - The Great River... River.
@@Heegaherger Yeah, or the joke about the human listing Earth's deserts "Sahara desert, Kalahari desert, Gobi desert" and the confused alien tourist looking at his translator and thinking 'Is it working properly? This human just said "desert" six times...'
@@Heegaherger There is a place in northern England called Pendle Hill. The name combines the words for hill from three different languages. So, hill hill hill.
Siege. Encircle. Ambush. Charge. Bombard. Retreat. Fortify. I bet you have some idea of how to go about doing all of these things and when they'd should be used. They're obvious, self-explanatory, words so common we use them even when not discussing military matters: Reporters laying siege to Downing Street, ambushing the PM with a question. The PM retreating, being bombarded with questions as the reporters charge after him. War comes so naturally to us that we discuss everything in military terms.
The best thing about these kinds of stories is that humanity can very easily be swapped with the aliens. We can boast about ourselves, but we must never forget that we can always be outperformed in something.
The "humans are space orcs" genre exists because basically all main stream sci-fi is the other way around, then people started pointing out how much we were undervaluing our own biology and sociology.
And if we realise we are outperformed what will happen?? We will either adapt or get jealous and competative to the point of reaching or surpassing them.
@@juliusmoe-nstar8942we would put all our efforts on biological enhancement and technological research. If we are given enough time then we might even surpass them.
"only the enemy will show you where you are weak and he is strong." This is basically our standing war doctrine already. Your enemy will exploit your weaknesses and then you will adapt to overcome them. We are also very vengeful and spiteful. When War Doctrine falls apart, there is no substitute for our "Hail Mary" tactics and Berserker Rages. The human is a nigh unpredictable monster when cornered and threatened. It holds within it a power all its own. The power to want to watch the world burn. When you strip away everything humanity cares about and can fight for, and you leave nothing left except the ability for us to watch the world burn, then we gleefully light the first match. We will go down swinging and you will pay for every single inch. Even should we lose, you will remember us forever.
A Call to Arms by Alan Dean Foster (1991) Chapter 10 gives a page or two on humans compared to aliens. Masood run faster, the Lepar swim better, etc. We're not as good as any of the other species in anything. However, none of the other species are as versatile as us. The Lepar could out swim a fish, but can barely operate on dry land. The Masood can run, but can't swim to save their life. Others see better than us in the day time but are effectively blind at night and vice versa. We are the "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" as a species, but the range and depth of our abilities completes the line, "But Better than Master of One".
When your kind becomes dominant species of your world because of your extreme adaptability, but also is hyper competitive so you've been at war with each other for god know how long
I can tell you for how long: since two tribes of our earliest ancestors competed with each other for resources - all the while fending off or running from our then-predators. In other words, since the very beginning of humanity. As a species, we have NEVER known lasting peace, only momentary respite.
@@Darker7 I specifically stated 'as a species' for a reason. As elaborated upon in this and other HFY stories, humans are atypically well suited for war. Your statement equally applies to a large percentage of life and thus dilutes that sentiment/trope.
I like War Elder Suu'ha. He reminds me of an old War Vet turned Grandfather. A little rough around the edges but shows that he cares about the younglings.
There were Roman survivors from Cannae. They were declared dead and banned from Italian soil, after a short period to allow them to leave. Most of them moved to Sicily and joined the local legions. Supposedly, Scipio (the future “Africanus”) made good use of the experience of the Ghosts of Cannae in his attack on Carthage that ended with Zama. They were still banned from Italian soil, thereafter, but their names were allowed to be spoken again and their families allowed to have their official funerals (with orations, without the body of course) if the relatives wished.
Logistics wins wars. Sadly it also is boring so you rarely see it get Hollywood movies. But logi fans can always sit smug and know that Maverick doesn't get to shoot down bad guys without lots of logistics to keep the fighter repaired, fueled and armed and the carrier fueled(well technically its jet fuel for the fighter wing, since the ship itself is nuclear), supplied and armed.
There is one name missing - Sun Tzu. You would be hard pressed to find _any_ action in war that didn't use at least one piece of his wisdom even by generals who knew nothing about it.
Sun Tzu is an incredibly well known one from what I've gathered... so you don't need to state their name every single time as that leads to ignorance through lack of experiences. It is like screaming Isaac Newton in every discussion that could have him. You'll be stuck at the start and not see advancements and things we learned since then. You need to move on.
I love these and you, AgroSquerril. Thanks for filling my time with much amusement. As for the story, well, we can always do better. Allow the full import of that statement to penetrate the mind. Humans are afraid of themselves. Because we can ALWAYS do better.
At this point I'm half convinced HFY was started by the various governments to give us huge murder boners for killing xenos.......and if so it is working flawlessly...
Imagine thinking that your race had war pretty well figured out. And then hearing about Hannibal Barca, the Master Sun Wu, and Alexander the Great. I think I'd push for a perpetual peace treaty, frankly.
@@ettibbet5493 Scipio is only responsible for the counter attack on Carthage, it's Fabius that is responsible to stall Hannibal from victory to another victory and erode his army morale
Empires have tried to broker eternal peace amongst themselves before. The best they managed is just shy of 10 years. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Peace_(532)
Just the top level of Military leadership of both sides from WWII would fill a rather largish book on the subject. Going back to the 1850s and later? Multi volume work. If you all the way back to Tzu Zu, Alexander, Ceasar, Vercingetorix, Hannibal, Chinggis Kahn, I'm sure there are more, that would be a life's work.
@poiujnbvcxdswq huh. I will freely admit my Google search was laughably short when I did that check, but I would have assumed it would have returned something about that not buried down several pages of results. Learn something new every day. Thanks. Add. Wow, I have no idea what exactly I was searching for then, because that action you mention comes up pretty quickly.
Probably the safest way, to be honest. Besides, we make great friends will pack bond with anything that doesn't try to kill our young. We forgive scratches that draw blood in an instant, a misplaced hoof that broke a bone. We will forgo food, sleep or shelter to care for whatever we care for. Have a truly marvelous time, oh stranger whose face I will never see, I am always glad to wave to a friend.
Thank you for allowing me the pleasure of learning several things I vaguely recalled Cannae, Hans delbruk was amazing thank you again for the pleasure of learning
Proud PA moment. Penn's woodlands = Pennsylvania. Hehe. Alien talk about my home state. Excellent video. Human history is long and varied and frought with conflict. I wrote my senior paper on Israel's 6 day war and the yom kippur war. It was poorly done but I did it. Another group that, love them or hate them, seriously knows how to fight.
One, because I didn't want too many HH references, and two, because I see Honor as more of a tactician, whereas White Haven I see more as a strategist. The difference between fighting with ships and squadrons in battles measuring hours, and fighting with fleets and star nations in wars measuring months.
The cadet asking why after course classes and schooling is offered to U.S officers. The navy academy before WW2 produced some of the finest strategists ever seen. The grasp of logistics and what would be needed along with commanders given tactical flexibility to carry out their objectives as they saw fit. It served us well then and we should really go back to that old system. Commanders and generals that failed would get shuffled around till they found a place where they fit. Patton is a perfect example, he was Eisenhower's star in Africa. But in Patton over stepped himself multiple times a long with striking soldiers got him relieved for over a year of command till he got control of the "ghost army" in Britain and then in Normandy under his former subordinate Bradley.
Sun Tzu was such a foot-fucking of warfare that his book, The Art of War, is a mandatory reading subject at all U.S. military academies. Hell, even in the Star Trek universe, that subject became a tradition that got passed down to Starfleet Academy.
@poiujnbvcxdswq I believe there were other notable figures supposedly didn't exist and that their works were compiled by a collective of other authors. William Shakespear seems to be another example.
The Norse? Wait until he learns about Christianity; a literal death cult and one of (if not the most) powerful institutions in history. The symbol of which is one of the most horrific execution devices ever thought up.
Conflict is the default setting for life on Earth. Endless turmoil, conflict the driving factor of progress for a billion years and a billion more... But Humanity stands out from the rest. Because Humanity is the only species on earth to know _war._ To fight, to work together, to survive, all these things are natural, but for some reason, it is Humans alone, that seek out conflict not for the sake of survival, or cooperation, but _to win._ No matter the original cause, once the horns of war are blown, Humans will fight, tooth and nail like a ravenous beast, _to win._ You see, Humans are driven by ambition and desires, much like any species, but there's something within them that's... different. Something dark, primal... A mental void buried deep within. There are some species that share it, Earth's Ants for instance will sacrifice themselves for their queen... But that is their biologically engineered purpose. They are tiny creatures numbering in the tens of thousands, essentially a biological computational matrix, with each iteration it's own part to play... Humans, however, aren't engineered to seek out conflict, to die in battle against an enemy not chosen by them. Humans are sentient, self aware creatures, capable of complex thought and deep introspection. They can very much be a peaceful and cooperative species, don't get me wrong, any one of us could easily mistake them as one of the tranquil species... ... But something within them lies dormant. When the horns of war echo across endless fields and vast nation-cities alike, they morph into a different beast entirely. The stories of old night speak of monsters once ruling all of existence with an iron fist. Ferocious, unstoppable, remorseless monsters, responsible for the starless eons. We all know the stories, regardless of the galactic sector you find yourself in, the legends of fear are the one constant among intelligent life. Why dig up the old tales in relation to Humans, you ask? I have witnessed Humans waging war upon it's enemies, and i have seen beyond their veil of compassion. And i witnessed a primal darkness wash over the battlefield, and in that moment, for the first time in centuries, i recalled my mother's bedtime tales, of old night, of angelfire... and starless skies. I observed their battles, their conflict, their war, and i recognized within them the forgotten face of a galactic scourge thought long dead to the galaxy. Even on their own planet, they appear unique to all but the most related species, and i would not fault you for considering the possibility of Earth being the black garden. Whether they are the product of exile, a distant successor to the old ones, or something new entirely matters not. They hide, in the deepest reaches of their psyche, the essence of rampant conquest known only to the most ferocious of species. In Human tongue, the descriptor for their species, 'humanity', is synonymous with kindness and compassion. With empathy. However... It is no coincidence that in tongues of species having known conflict with Humanity, that same descriptor is synonymous with such words as 'terror' and 'monsters'. It is no coincidence that in their tongues, 'Humanity' and 'the Old Ones' are pronounced one and the same. ... Mere standard cycles ago, the council declared they would resist the Human's efforts toward expansion. The translation into Humanity's Common read 'War'. I fear the council knows not the full breadth of the definition. _Gods save us all._
Forged in a fire lit long ago, stand next to me, you'll never stand alone. I'm last to leave, but the first to go, Lord, make me dead before you make me old. I feed on the fear of the devil inside of the enemy faces in my sights: aim with the hand, shoot with the mind, kill with a heart like arctic ice! -The Warrior Song
In my mind, I was thinking the Prussian staff under Von Moltke the Elder. I.e. the staff that planned the masterful campaigns of the Austro-Prussian war of 1867 and the Franco-Prussian war of 1870. The degree to which the mobilization timetables were established is frightening, and the ease at which the Prussians maneuvered large formations independently, and then mass and attack the enemy is astounding. I would absolutely recommend Citino's "The German Way of War" for more details.
We fight our environment to make it bend to our will. We fight animals to domesticate them and make them bend to our will. We fight each other over everything. Territory, rights, resources, religion, personal beliefs. Humans have been at war since the day we came into being, and we will remain at war until the last human dies into obscurity. It makes sense that a species that has spent literally its entire history at war in one way or another, would be the absolute masters of the art. And it makes sense that in a galactic society a species so dedicated to war, that has war so ingrained in their very existence, would be feared and respected by all others.
You know, I think I'm going to start serving a drink at the bar and name it the Agro Squerrl,. Or perhaps the Space Mendlegent, but put a link in the menue to your channel.
masters of war...its a hard thing to achieve ,for you must not just be excellent in battle...but all things that affects it..can start it..or end it... and above all ,you must stay conscious of your own fallibility... it kind of suits potential democracies made of highly competitive and yet social sentients though ,since just as its a hard title to earn... so is getting your entire population fully dedicated to war but once it is .....tremble before a true titan awakening
Ok, I love me the hell out of Mel Brooks, but Delbrück is regarded as the father of military history, and a very smart man. So that's why Frankenstein wanted his brain for the monster.
It is now 2022. It is estimated that throughout all of human civilization, there has only been approximately 20 years of peace on the planet where there has been absolutely no fighting. As it stands right now, there are three major wars going on and some 20 minor wars. And no, this list does not include the now ended wars the USA was in.
F. T. A. i want to add my voice to some of the others who wish to read about the horror some of the species in the universe would feel after seeing us allowing our young to engage in warfare for fun over the internet.
Where, o where has Cthulhu gone? None of his lot remain alive. They packed up and they fled this world In august 1945. Where o Where have the old ones gone? Scrambled back to their darkling lands They have fled with a rare good sense The lightning's held in human hands. Gods who followed their politics for ages on the changing Earth Across the back of the human breed never guessed what it's brain was worth. From flint knives to the flintlock gun Humans leapt while Cthulhu dreamed. Atoms cracked in another breath, The old god woke, looked once and screamed! Wise o Wise were the gods who ran, Fleeing fast for the depths of space Fiercer demons have come to stay. Human Powers take their place. - Leslie Fish, "Where has Cthulhu Gone"
I liked the, "Humans aren't imaginary monsters. They're worse: they're real."
I can almost imagine first contact going something like this
Alien ambassador: “humans are a weak and pathetic species and their tech is…why do I here boss music?”
A2: “captain the entire human fleet has just come out of hyper space and are targeting us!!”
People are actually pretty fragile, for example a seasoned war veteran can get put out of commission by falling down the stairs, but orbital strikes and tanks mostly negate that
@@dallindespain5082 where are we talking about how fragile the body is?
@trinitylovesyou hay just cu im 5'2 don't mean im a baby
Human durability is strange. Some people have died after being punched and hitting the back of their head on the pavement, but some people have survived being impaled, disemboweled, or falling out of a plane. I heard of a woman who was kidnapped, raped, tortured, left on the side of the road with her guts falling out and her throat slit so deeply she was almost decapitated and had to use one hand to keep her innards inside of her while using her other hand to prop up her flopping head while limping down the road for help. She then miraculously recovered, beat all the odds, and gave birth to 2 healthy children later in her life. Theres really no predicting what the human body can or cannot survive.
I'm reminded of what an amarican officer said about WW1. "I get the distant impression that Europe has been at war for a very long time. And that there good at it. "
Ok guys so europe is baseacly is the ranked free for all. For you all know
@@zoltanmeszaros4684only if youre an fascist or religious country...
@@lukasklaumannsmoller7923 So basicaly like 40% - 70% of Europe at any given time with numbers overall increasing until a 100% Just a little more than a 100 Years ago.
"Distinct" Grr... spellcheckers eh?
@@lukasklaumannsmoller7923 A reminder that during the early 19th century, the first ever peace occured in Europe lasted a year
I looked into a human soldier's eyes at Halon's Reach. I saw ten thousand generations of war.
"I saw fire and thunder and the roil of oceans and ages long past. I saw engines of destruction and creation hitherto unheard of. I saw fields of headstones capped by weeping angels and bayonets raised in praise and ire. I saw mercy for the fallen, and wrath for those opposed. In those eyes, I saw human ambition and then I knew... They're never going to stop..."
@@asurasyn "...and they counted in the hundreds of billions -- *trillions,* even! Multiple universe lifespans-worth of experience, of both victory and defeat. Consistently built upon the foundations and failures of each generation's past, all to manifest what I can only describe to be an ultimate culmination. The fields of blood and fire are endless, and the fields of stone slates even moreso."
And twenty thousand of crystal meth.
@@kalskirata42 When the last sun has gone cold, and the life of this universe has gone still, the endless thunder of their march shall continue unabated. They think themselves merciful, sparing those who do not oppose them. But I fear their mercy moreso than any cruelty, those they spare shall be carried along with them by will or perforce. Borne into the eternal night as they seek to tear the heavens asunder to create a new light, a new universe!
One that bears their fell countenance.
@@Kirhean whats this from friend, it gave me chills
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!
Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor.
Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat and then he beat the crap out of every single one.
And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'zoo'!
Unless it's a farm!
Almost sounds like we're learning from Saxton Hale himself. Either that or Soldier Jane Doe.
This is an exact quote from jane doe the soldier rocket launcher shotgun guy. From meet the soldier.
(Slow clap)
May that glorious bastard be happy in that glorious battlefield above.
This sounds like that Rihanna story about her saving Justin Bieber’s life and that being the reason that Twilight was written ::
Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes. - Quark Star trek DS9
I feel sorry for the Jem'hadar. -- Nog
@@ericmcconnaughey2782 And he was right to do so.
oh no no, we can do worst then the klingons
I love how Quark was supposedly the "trickster" or villainous capitalist on a show about a future communist military-run society. Somehow, he manages to be the character I liked the most.
@@Zaphod771 He was written as a very complex character who kinda grew out of just being a capitalist.
I love the little touch that Suu'ha's universal translator renders "Pennsylvania" as "Penn's Woodlands."
The translator is correct. There are many names that we say that have literal translations that we don't mentally digest. Saying Mississippi River is redundant - The Great River... River.
@@Heegaherger Yeah, or the joke about the human listing Earth's deserts "Sahara desert, Kalahari desert, Gobi desert" and the confused alien tourist looking at his translator and thinking 'Is it working properly? This human just said "desert" six times...'
@@Heegaherger There is a place in northern England called Pendle Hill. The name combines the words for hill from three different languages. So, hill hill hill.
@@SoupDragonish I know of Pendle Hill due to the Pendle Witches. But I didn’t know about the Hill-Hill-Hill translation. Thanks for the factoid!
Siege. Encircle. Ambush. Charge. Bombard. Retreat. Fortify.
I bet you have some idea of how to go about doing all of these things and when they'd should be used. They're obvious, self-explanatory, words so common we use them even when not discussing military matters: Reporters laying siege to Downing Street, ambushing the PM with a question. The PM retreating, being bombarded with questions as the reporters charge after him. War comes so naturally to us that we discuss everything in military terms.
I never thought about it like that.
The best thing about these kinds of stories is that humanity can very easily be swapped with the aliens. We can boast about ourselves, but we must never forget that we can always be outperformed in something.
The "humans are space orcs" genre exists because basically all main stream sci-fi is the other way around, then people started pointing out how much we were undervaluing our own biology and sociology.
And if we realise we are outperformed what will happen?? We will either adapt or get jealous and competative to the point of reaching or surpassing them.
@@juliusmoe-nstar8942we would put all our efforts on biological enhancement and technological research.
If we are given enough time then we might even surpass them.
"only the enemy will show you where you are weak and he is strong."
This is basically our standing war doctrine already. Your enemy will exploit your weaknesses and then you will adapt to overcome them. We are also very vengeful and spiteful. When War Doctrine falls apart, there is no substitute for our "Hail Mary" tactics and Berserker Rages. The human is a nigh unpredictable monster when cornered and threatened. It holds within it a power all its own. The power to want to watch the world burn. When you strip away everything humanity cares about and can fight for, and you leave nothing left except the ability for us to watch the world burn, then we gleefully light the first match. We will go down swinging and you will pay for every single inch. Even should we lose, you will remember us forever.
A Call to Arms by Alan Dean Foster (1991) Chapter 10 gives a page or two on humans compared to aliens. Masood run faster, the Lepar swim better, etc. We're not as good as any of the other species in anything. However, none of the other species are as versatile as us. The Lepar could out swim a fish, but can barely operate on dry land. The Masood can run, but can't swim to save their life. Others see better than us in the day time but are effectively blind at night and vice versa. We are the "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" as a species, but the range and depth of our abilities completes the line, "But Better than Master of One".
When your kind becomes dominant species of your world because of your extreme adaptability, but also is hyper competitive so you've been at war with each other for god know how long
competition breeds excellence.
@@IRMentat not with nukes.
Competition with nukes breeds cancer cells.
I can tell you for how long: since two tribes of our earliest ancestors competed with each other for resources - all the while fending off or running from our then-predators.
In other words, since the very beginning of humanity. As a species, we have NEVER known lasting peace, only momentary respite.
@@DarkVeghetta Nah. We've been at war since the first single celled organisms figured out they could eat each other :Ü™
@@Darker7 I specifically stated 'as a species' for a reason.
As elaborated upon in this and other HFY stories, humans are atypically well suited for war.
Your statement equally applies to a large percentage of life and thus dilutes that sentiment/trope.
I like War Elder Suu'ha. He reminds me of an old War Vet turned Grandfather. A little rough around the edges but shows that he cares about the younglings.
But by the Gods don't remind him of Politics during the Holiday dinner, He'll be rambling from politics to talking about the war in vivid detail.
Also, if you do somehow end up at war with us, remember. Always respect the Geneva convention and make sure it doesn't become the Geneva suggestion
Geneva checklist
There's a very good reason it's called *Human* rights.....
Ah yes. the ‘to-do’ list
"I ain't saying it's a war crime, but that's just because Geneva didn't think that shit was possible." - The Fat Electrician
So don't shoot at doc or officers. If you do the E7 will let the E4s go have fun before nap time.
I really like the stonewall Jackson part. The humans stood their as a wall.
:)
Blood for the blood god.
Skulls for the skull throne.
Milk for Khorne flakes.
Mars smiles on this video.
mars smile until them saw a sign of the omnisiah working
Just remember. We are the good guys
What heresy is this brother.😆
@Druid of Scosglen oil margaritas for everyone!
Khorne flakes Lmao xD
This was a nice story, very fitting to have you voice some elderly alien, it paints a nice picture. Keep up the good work!
Ikr!
General Jackson so sad he could not be Hannibal
I wonder if.. Instructor Jackson.. hmm.
Was it in the galactic year 1814 and did he take a lil trip down the Mississip?
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 and he caught the Aliens by surprise
There were Roman survivors from Cannae. They were declared dead and banned from Italian soil, after a short period to allow them to leave.
Most of them moved to Sicily and joined the local legions. Supposedly, Scipio (the future “Africanus”) made good use of the experience of the Ghosts of Cannae in his attack on Carthage that ended with Zama.
They were still banned from Italian soil, thereafter, but their names were allowed to be spoken again and their families allowed to have their official funerals (with orations, without the body of course) if the relatives wished.
For the algorithm! I want to see their reaction when they found that we create games about war for civilians to enjoy XD
For the algorithm
For the algorithm!
For the algorithm
For the algorithm!
For the algorithm
“Amateurs study strategy, professionals study logistics.”
― Omar Bradley
Logistics wins wars. Sadly it also is boring so you rarely see it get Hollywood movies. But logi fans can always sit smug and know that Maverick doesn't get to shoot down bad guys without lots of logistics to keep the fighter repaired, fueled and armed and the carrier fueled(well technically its jet fuel for the fighter wing, since the ship itself is nuclear), supplied and armed.
There is one name missing - Sun Tzu. You would be hard pressed to find _any_ action in war that didn't use at least one piece of his wisdom even by generals who knew nothing about it.
Sun Tzu is an incredibly well known one from what I've gathered... so you don't need to state their name every single time as that leads to ignorance through lack of experiences.
It is like screaming Isaac Newton in every discussion that could have him. You'll be stuck at the start and not see advancements and things we learned since then. You need to move on.
I love these and you, AgroSquerril. Thanks for filling my time with much amusement. As for the story, well, we can always do better. Allow the full import of that statement to penetrate the mind. Humans are afraid of themselves. Because we can ALWAYS do better.
I like this Xeno. He knows his place
Lol that's funny
Stellaris xenophobe advisor still dislikes. THE FOUL REPREHENSIBLE MISBEGOTTEN VILE CONTEMPTIBLE XENOS!
At this point I'm half convinced HFY was started by the various governments to give us huge murder boners for killing xenos.......and if so it is working flawlessly...
Imagine thinking that your race had war pretty well figured out.
And then hearing about Hannibal Barca, the Master Sun Wu, and Alexander the Great.
I think I'd push for a perpetual peace treaty, frankly.
Hannibal was great till Scipio showed up
@@ettibbet5493 Scipio is only responsible for the counter attack on Carthage, it's Fabius that is responsible to stall Hannibal from victory to another victory and erode his army morale
Empires have tried to broker eternal peace amongst themselves before.
The best they managed is just shy of 10 years. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Peace_(532)
Subutai, the War Dog of Genghis Khan.
*Genghis Khan's hordes taking over most of Asia* : Allow us to introduce ourselves
Tzu Zu to George Patton, a Brief History of the Masters of War.
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Don’t forget Zhukov
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Just the top level of Military leadership of both sides from WWII would fill a rather largish book on the subject. Going back to the 1850s and later? Multi volume work. If you all the way back to Tzu Zu, Alexander, Ceasar, Vercingetorix, Hannibal, Chinggis Kahn, I'm sure there are more, that would be a life's work.
Do you mean Sun Tzu?
Honorverse shoutout for the win!
Also, Young Frankenstein.
I was pondering if there was a historic white Haven that the honorverse and the story based it off of or if the story was referencing the honorverse.
@@donanthebarbarian5177 as far as I can tell, other than it being a town in Pennsylvania, there isn't anything other than Honorverse
Ah... Good ol' Lord Admiral White Haven. Shame about his wife
@@morzanstormbringer7722 The senior one, yes. They really should have let Honor know.
@poiujnbvcxdswq huh. I will freely admit my Google search was laughably short when I did that check, but I would have assumed it would have returned something about that not buried down several pages of results. Learn something new every day. Thanks.
Add. Wow, I have no idea what exactly I was searching for then, because that action you mention comes up pretty quickly.
Greetings Mentlegent!
for the rhythm that is Algo
Monster-in-the-night, I like that.
Penn's Woodlands! Valley Forge Military Academy! Represent!
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Human warfare: if you don't know the plan then neither does your enemy
Humanity have been fighting each other for so long that conflict is essential part of all cultures
Loving these videos your making! You have an amazing voice for all of your characters and speak so clearly! Hope your channel grows exponentially!
Glad you enjoy the content and thank you for the kind words
Another great story sir! Thank you for letting us know of this existing!
How to fight humans?
Don't.
Probably the safest way, to be honest. Besides, we make great friends will pack bond with anything that doesn't try to kill our young. We forgive scratches that draw blood in an instant, a misplaced hoof that broke a bone. We will forgo food, sleep or shelter to care for whatever we care for. Have a truly marvelous time, oh stranger whose face I will never see, I am always glad to wave to a friend.
@@amorphoussolid8512 yep
@@amorphoussolid8512 but wake one up, and you shall witness true wrath
Wow, this one was really well written. I legit felt it when I realized what his grade meant.
Thank you for allowing me the pleasure of learning several things I vaguely recalled Cannae, Hans delbruk was amazing thank you again for the pleasure of learning
I finally started watching a random video... An hour later and 4 vids in I'm still doing the "just one more" thing. Fantastic job! Everyone!
Proud PA moment. Penn's woodlands = Pennsylvania. Hehe. Alien talk about my home state. Excellent video. Human history is long and varied and frought with conflict. I wrote my senior paper on Israel's 6 day war and the yom kippur war. It was poorly done but I did it. Another group that, love them or hate them, seriously knows how to fight.
These stories sure make our meeting ancient and advanced other worldly spices good for us humans. I hope I turns out like this when it happens.
Love the story! Nice reference to the Masters of Orion game.
I like that the name of White Haven was thrown into that mix. Honor Harrington would approve, but also wonder why her name wasn't included.
One, because I didn't want too many HH references, and two, because I see Honor as more of a tactician, whereas White Haven I see more as a strategist. The difference between fighting with ships and squadrons in battles measuring hours, and fighting with fleets and star nations in wars measuring months.
Tsun Tzu .... Lord's of War
This has the feeling of a grandfather telling you his war stories
Can't believe I missed it the first time around. Someone was playing a game of Master of Orion 2 when they wrote this.
MoO was my childhood.
The cadet asking why after course classes and schooling is offered to U.S officers. The navy academy before WW2 produced some of the finest strategists ever seen. The grasp of logistics and what would be needed along with commanders given tactical flexibility to carry out their objectives as they saw fit. It served us well then and we should really go back to that old system. Commanders and generals that failed would get shuffled around till they found a place where they fit. Patton is a perfect example, he was Eisenhower's star in Africa. But in Patton over stepped himself multiple times a long with striking soldiers got him relieved for over a year of command till he got control of the "ghost army" in Britain and then in Normandy under his former subordinate Bradley.
Love the quality of your work. Keep it up
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Sun Tzu was such a foot-fucking of warfare that his book, The Art of War, is a mandatory reading subject at all U.S. military academies. Hell, even in the Star Trek universe, that subject became a tradition that got passed down to Starfleet Academy.
@poiujnbvcxdswq I believe there were other notable figures supposedly didn't exist and that their works were compiled by a collective of other authors. William Shakespear seems to be another example.
When I heard the part about a religion of bloody-headed demigods in a Pantheon of war and death, my brain said "Oh! Marines."
Man your work output is ferocious, I'm both impressed and overwhelmed!
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@@AgroSquerril I can only put out one recording a week! Props to you 🙂
@@AGoodBean Thank you , good luck with your channel
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Halon's reach? Like Halo reach?
Did you like the 'Penns tree place' war school? I actually loled!
@@amorphoussolid8512 the what? Sorry, if this has to do with halo reach, Im playing the order the games came out and I'm only at halo 2.
Penn's Woodland = Pennsylvania
Humaaans !! What is your profession?!!
Humans are humane when treated well, brutal when provoked. Overkill, in either case, is only preparedness.
If you're not hearing Disturbed's song Indestructible in the background while Suu'ha is speaking, you're doing it wrong.
White haven ? Honor Harrington reference?
Yep
Would the first name of 3rd Corps C.O. be 'Thomas', perchance?
Wait for him to find out what the Norse believes
The Norse? Wait until he learns about Christianity; a literal death cult and one of (if not the most) powerful institutions in history. The symbol of which is one of the most horrific execution devices ever thought up.
"In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity." Sun Tzu
Well, it seems Odin did hang around, and his laughter echoes through eternity
Great work
Conflict is the default setting for life on Earth.
Endless turmoil, conflict the driving factor of progress for a billion years and a billion more... But Humanity stands out from the rest.
Because Humanity is the only species on earth to know _war._
To fight, to work together, to survive, all these things are natural, but for some reason, it is Humans alone, that seek out conflict not for the sake of survival, or cooperation, but _to win._
No matter the original cause, once the horns of war are blown, Humans will fight, tooth and nail like a ravenous beast, _to win._
You see, Humans are driven by ambition and desires, much like any species, but there's something within them that's... different.
Something dark, primal... A mental void buried deep within.
There are some species that share it, Earth's Ants for instance will sacrifice themselves for their queen... But that is their biologically engineered purpose.
They are tiny creatures numbering in the tens of thousands, essentially a biological computational matrix, with each iteration it's own part to play...
Humans, however, aren't engineered to seek out conflict, to die in battle against an enemy not chosen by them.
Humans are sentient, self aware creatures, capable of complex thought and deep introspection.
They can very much be a peaceful and cooperative species, don't get me wrong, any one of us could easily mistake them as one of the tranquil species...
... But something within them lies dormant.
When the horns of war echo across endless fields and vast nation-cities alike, they morph into a different beast entirely.
The stories of old night speak of monsters once ruling all of existence with an iron fist.
Ferocious, unstoppable, remorseless monsters, responsible for the starless eons.
We all know the stories, regardless of the galactic sector you find yourself in, the legends of fear are the one constant among intelligent life.
Why dig up the old tales in relation to Humans, you ask?
I have witnessed Humans waging war upon it's enemies, and i have seen beyond their veil of compassion.
And i witnessed a primal darkness wash over the battlefield, and in that moment, for the first time in centuries, i recalled my mother's bedtime tales, of old night, of angelfire... and starless skies.
I observed their battles, their conflict, their war, and i recognized within them the forgotten face of a galactic scourge thought long dead to the galaxy.
Even on their own planet, they appear unique to all but the most related species, and i would not fault you for considering the possibility of Earth being the black garden.
Whether they are the product of exile, a distant successor to the old ones, or something new entirely matters not.
They hide, in the deepest reaches of their psyche, the essence of rampant conquest known only to the most ferocious of species.
In Human tongue, the descriptor for their species, 'humanity', is synonymous with kindness and compassion. With empathy.
However...
It is no coincidence that in tongues of species having known conflict with Humanity, that same descriptor is synonymous with such words as 'terror' and 'monsters'.
It is no coincidence that in their tongues, 'Humanity' and 'the Old Ones' are pronounced one and the same.
...
Mere standard cycles ago, the council declared they would resist the Human's efforts toward expansion.
The translation into Humanity's Common read 'War'.
I fear the council knows not the full breadth of the definition.
_Gods save us all._
What book is that out of mate?
Forged in a fire lit long ago, stand next to me, you'll never stand alone. I'm last to leave, but the first to go, Lord, make me dead before you make me old. I feed on the fear of the devil inside of the enemy faces in my sights: aim with the hand, shoot with the mind, kill with a heart like arctic ice!
-The Warrior Song
hol up did the teacher just give out a homework to study Clausewitz
Essentially, yes. Hey, don't say stupid shit in class. Especially if it's lazy stupid shit.
Correct.
In my mind, I was thinking the Prussian staff under Von Moltke the Elder. I.e. the staff that planned the masterful campaigns of the Austro-Prussian war of 1867 and the Franco-Prussian war of 1870. The degree to which the mobilization timetables were established is frightening, and the ease at which the Prussians maneuvered large formations independently, and then mass and attack the enemy is astounding. I would absolutely recommend Citino's "The German Way of War" for more details.
Always love your videos :D
kratos is here. and he is still teaching
Thanks!
A pleasure , thank you for the dono :D
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Thank You for the reading
We fight our environment to make it bend to our will. We fight animals to domesticate them and make them bend to our will. We fight each other over everything. Territory, rights, resources, religion, personal beliefs. Humans have been at war since the day we came into being, and we will remain at war until the last human dies into obscurity. It makes sense that a species that has spent literally its entire history at war in one way or another, would be the absolute masters of the art. And it makes sense that in a galactic society a species so dedicated to war, that has war so ingrained in their very existence, would be feared and respected by all others.
For the history of the fallen.
You know, I think I'm going to start serving a drink at the bar and name it the Agro Squerrl,. Or perhaps the Space Mendlegent, but put a link in the menue to your channel.
masters of war...its a hard thing to achieve ,for you must not just be excellent in battle...but all things that affects it..can start it..or end it... and above all ,you must stay conscious of your own fallibility...
it kind of suits potential democracies made of highly competitive and yet social sentients though ,since just as its a hard title to earn... so is getting your entire population fully dedicated to war but once it is .....tremble before a true titan awakening
great stories and great readings, thank you
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love your stories you read for us
Hans Delbrok. Is that a reference to "Young Frankenstein"?
Ok, I love me the hell out of Mel Brooks, but Delbrück is regarded as the father of military history, and a very smart man. So that's why Frankenstein wanted his brain for the monster.
200 years on earth with no war? preposterous!
I wonder if the author was referring to Pax Romana. 🤔 Of course that doesn't mean this had applied to all countries across the globe.
200 years of peace? Whose lying to these aliens?
Thanks for the video.
A great story
i like the story and narration and think....hey bring that sock back you filthy nanites
When ignorant seek to learn not teach.--- War Elder Suu’ha
Thank you for the video.
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Humans are the baddest thing humans have yet encountered. But rest assured, in the endless Universe awaiting us, there will be something nastier.
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I came for the story. I stayed for the comments.
It is now 2022. It is estimated that throughout all of human civilization, there has only been approximately 20 years of peace on the planet where there has been absolutely no fighting. As it stands right now, there are three major wars going on and some 20 minor wars. And no, this list does not include the now ended wars the USA was in.
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i want to add my voice to some of the others who wish to read about the horror some of the species in the universe would feel after seeing us allowing our young to engage in warfare for fun over the internet.
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You know humans are the masters of war when aliens come to humans to learn how to fight.
"Russia has was stamina. We have 1400 years of war stamina. And we have never lost a war." - Andrei Martyanov.
*laughs in Japanese*
*Mongol throat singing intensifies*
Pretty sure they lost the Cold War. And now they're losing the war with Ukraine.
Where, o where has Cthulhu gone? None of his lot remain alive.
They packed up and they fled this world In august 1945.
Where o Where have the old ones gone? Scrambled back to their darkling lands
They have fled with a rare good sense The lightning's held in human hands.
Gods who followed their politics for ages on the changing Earth
Across the back of the human breed never guessed what it's brain was worth.
From flint knives to the flintlock gun Humans leapt while Cthulhu dreamed.
Atoms cracked in another breath, The old god woke, looked once and screamed!
Wise o Wise were the gods who ran, Fleeing fast for the depths of space
Fiercer demons have come to stay. Human Powers take their place. - Leslie Fish, "Where has Cthulhu Gone"
Ah general idonek
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If we are as Gods of War to them… What would our actual Gods be to them?
Fictional
War criminal
keeper going
kept going
So only in war is a human truly human. lol (Kinda partly a joke given our history as it was once said "War is the natural state of man.")
Humans are intelligent when needed but more emotional than anything.
And that....is the exact problem.
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And oddly the solution as well
White Haven.... HA
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Somehow this one was a lot less fun for me than most others