Another reason why the ending felt rushed. The aftermath of the CRM bombing was basically non-existent. It literally went from Rick and Michonne on top of the storage car to the helicopter en route to ASZ. ALL information about the aftermath was done in a voiceover. I loved the show but this felt cheap. They could have at least done a montage or something showing the CRM regrouping. Show Estaban again and the other civilians learning about the CRM plans, etc.
All of the CRM corrupt high ups being at that location right by the gas was convenient. Like, the finale was good and all, but the CRM that has been teased for about 7 years now just taken down in one episode… I guess the next phase of TWD will be focusing more on the variant walkers/ biological threats like Beale was talking about but even another season of Beale and CRM would have been nice, or a longer season.
@@TheAireaidLordI understand the GOT season 8 comparisons, and agree with a lot of them. But you’re right, Rick and Michonne stayed true to their characters to the end. It makes it much better than the GOT ending imo.
I remember as I was watching the last episode thinking to myself .. ain’t no way this is the final season .. ain’t no way they about to do us like game of thrones … rush through the big bad final boss just to end the story 🤦🏻♂️ , then we got to the end of the episode and was like yep they did some Dan and Dan type of writing
@@JayHaram I was saying the same thing! I have still not really gotten over it. In time I will but I just can't believe they took that route but there it is and we have to go on unfortunately. I am looking forward to what will come next in Daryl!
The cut on Rick's head shows you that barely a week or so passed before they flew home. No need for Rick to be mentioned in Dead City, Negan wouldn't care and Maggie wouldn't see it as any of his business if she knew. I could imagine Carol deciding to go and look for Daryl since looking for Rick is why he is out there in the first place.
Totally agree. Rick and Michonne wouldn't stick around very long after achieving their goal, they'd be getting home as quickly as possible. I do think Negan would care to an extent about Rick being back, but I think he's been back long enough in the timeline that no mention of him is necessary, agreed.
Yes. Also, I don’t think Carol would leave the kids with anyone but their own parents. She was pretty much the mother figure to them by the time Daryl left to search.
Wait so you think they’d take out the bad guys and let people they don’t know if good or bad take over beales spot and he’s told Rick he had spies so I feel like Rick and michine would at least stay a week or less because to see what happened and to tell the people what happened and what the crm did and notice his wound is stitched and cared for properly most like went to Portland or to civil republic and got medical aid in
I think the time jump at the end of TWOL is only several weeks/a couple of months at most - based on the state of Rick’s head wound. It was still healing but also mostly healed. I also think Carol said “Dwight came back” based on her tone. Daryl had told Dwight not to come back ever again….
The single circle on the chopper is a good catch! I didn't notice it and I've watched a ton of videos and nobody brought that up! Also this video reminded me, what the hell happened to the rebellion forming after World Beyond?? One of many unanswered questions ☹️
They contacted Portland, they were gathering evidence of Beal and the things he did, they probably had radio contact... I still say Carol would have mentioned it first thing and not been so mopey and casual... Lots of things don't make sense
yeah.. she knew daryl was out looking for rick, why would she let him keep looking if he was already back..? that part doesn't make sense so i don't think it was rick coming back when the radio transmission was made. we will just have to see eventually!
During the echelon briefing Beal said that they had been supplying test subjects “up untill recently” during the time that Daryl got the call the boat still existed which means the CRM was still supplying test subjects meaning Daryl Dixon takes place before this… unless of course the boat and test subject are not CRM related
Also doesn't make sense for maggie to go to new york alone if towl takes place 11-12 or even 14 years into the apocalypse and dead city takes place 15 years in then why is maggie alone in New York? She could've taken a crm team, rick is still high up in the ranks he isn't a regular no name soldier also negan running away could be explained by rick returning and him being afraid of rick
Rick’s head wound had largely healed so it had been a few months before they went home. I assume that wasn’t the first radio contact. I imagine the kids knew she’d found him and would be coming home soon, but then they stayed at CR to ensure the Beale regime had been squashed and for those initial changes to be implemented. Although I’d liked to have seen some of that I get why they didn’t show it, as I don’t think it was enough for a whole other episode and the voiceover gave all the info. Maybe has this finale been 15 mins longer to add it in, but ultimately it was a show about Rick and Michonne getting home. That was the focus. I’d assume they still have status at CR so if they ever want to weave it back in, they could do in future.
Its Really hard to know. Technically Ones Who Live was suppose to take place during the last season of Original show. It just depends on how long it took for them to get back after the explosion. I wish they would give us more help on that so we could get a clearer picture. That is one of things about this universe that drives me crazy!
Jeffery Morgan said in an interview all the time lines are CAUGHT up so there’s a reunion to be made I do think they left quicker than you think…. They have all talked about it. The biggest threat is now the herd of walkers millions strong 💪🏻
I’m confused. Why are some confused about realism in a show about a zombie apocalypse? 🤷🏼♀️ I took the one circle to mean now that the CR knows what the CRM was doing-everyone is now free to be in/part of the circle. It stands to reason especially if they’re offering openness, help, and embracing of other communities.
Because the rest of the rules of reality need to apply. If the show is about how normal people in our world would survive a zombie apocalypse, everything about the world, minus the zombies, has to follow the same rules as our own. Even fictional worlds have rules, and they need to be consistent. Whether it's based on the real world or some crazy fantasy world or advanced scifi world.
In world beyond the CR was trying to gain oversight of the CRM. Its just that Beale and the rest were so corrupt and secretive they never allowed it. Once the soldiers were taken out they had the means to restore order.
Yup! I had a problem with that too. Pretty much every piece of this episode I had issue with. I couldn't help it. It was so badly done. I can turn away from a couple of things but when its everything its really hard!!
Your more likely to survive a blast if your close to the center of it, but survival and being deaf, concussed, and seriously injuried are different things. The shrapnel alone would have been a real issue, then the gas, the shock wave, etc, survival is one thing, untouched or affected is a totally different thing!
It wasn’t the blast they survived it was the chlorine gas, they used water and Thorne used a mask. The bomb just set off the gas that they were going to use on the city. They gassed the army. People don’t seem to get that, if obviously wasn’t clear enough. The bomb blast wasn’t that big, just enough to set off the gas.
i believe , the single circle most likely means, that they are one whole now, because before it was just an alliance without anyone knowing where CR is , but now they know where it is they mightve joined forces and became one governement
The wound on Rick's head also indicates there was some time that passed. You could barely notice it so at least a month or so passed. I'm sure they worked with setting up the oversight council. Esteban's girlfriend was a journalist so helped get things hooked up to get the word out. The Last Time is titled that for a reason. I suspect Carol did say "Rick came back". I also suspect that Carl might have been hesitant about being excited because Rick filled her in on there being spies in other communities and her not being sure how safe it was to talk on open airways. I believe that by the time Daryl doesn't show back up in a time frame they feel he should be back, Michonne has learned she's pregnant with another Baby Grimes and because they agreed not to be apart again, he just got back and needs to make up for lost time, Carol goes out on her own looking for Daryl.
I thought the change in logo from 3 circles to 1 circle was a symbol of unity not an exclusion. They are now working together for a common future as one entity instead of 3 different entities with their own agendas.
I agree with some of the others. No way Carol said Rick so nonchalantly without any emotion. I'll go with Dwight since he and Sherry went back to the sanctuary and that her hesitancy was due to knowing that there are some bad feelings between Daryl and Dwight.
That really solid reasoning. You have me convinced. Admittedly, it does sound like Carol says “ick came back”, but I suppose that could just be radio interference.
Seeing the fall of the CRM makes The World beyond series seem almost useless. I thought the rouge scientists and the main characters on that show would play a role in TOWL....
Unless A.) Rick left again and isn't there anymore B.) Rick died If one of those two things happen, then it makes perfect sense why she wouldn't say it right away
I would give the time Gap probably a month-ish. Portland may still be part of the CRM they are just now combined as One. Emphasis on the capital O. And the 14 years definitely is a good play for the series. And a head communication with Alexandria and or the Commonwealth because the kids met them in the middle of a freaking field so someone knew they were coming. The reunion probably happened after Carol left but Carol didn't form Daryl that Rick was back. She knew via the radio
I'm still waffling on this finale. I'm intrigued by the future clean slate, but, like, they did 5 years of content in a broadcast voice over. I guess now we know why they pulled back from the CRM, they weren't going to be around much longer. Such a massive disappointment with that aspect. Truly saddening and frankly very confusing. Where on earth are we going now? The heroes have a damn military at their back now, where's the conflict and why continue with spin offs that don't play a part in a greater whole? Asking more rhetorically than literally, but still I wonder.
What do you mean “where are we going”? You don’t think it’s time they wrap the story up and take back the world like they do in the comics? You want them to keep finding new enemies or villains to fight? lol
@@Mario2Master Well I want all I can get because I love the show. It would be fine if they want to wrap it. But I would prefer if they took a little more care & made it make more sense and was not done in 45 min. I think the characters deserve that!
@@Mario2Master I mean that literally. There's no real conflict now that heroes are home and no real threat now that we have a military. What you described is what we got - wrapped up the story and rebuilding the world. If you got ideas, I'm all ears!
There's no way Carol's gonna wait such a while into her convo with Daryl to let her know the return of who's responsible for him leaving in the first place. It just makes no sense. Poor Ezekiel. That's a good catch with the circle. Perhaps the helicopter type is another things-are-different-now clue. Like they're pulling a Rick. Like they're leaving the black helicopters behind just like Rick's CRM hand.
I think the reuinion was filmed as a alternate ending. The orignal ending was rick and michonne standing on top of the shipping containers wondering what happens next. i think if the show as gonna continue it would be the aftermath of the crm and the journey home. If there wasnt gonna be a season two for whatever reason they had the reunion already filmed and added it on after what would have been the final scene.
From the interview with Andy he’s very clear that he wanted time reunion, so I would’ve thought that that was always the planned end point for these 6 episodes.
I think the single circle more says they are all in it together as one. CR, CRM, Portland and everyone else on the continent that they can rescue now. I commented on your other video that I think a year or two has passed since the explosion and they kept an eye on Alexandria etc to help stabilize CR and help make the changes... But they had the ability to keep an eye on them because of the helicopters etc... I wonder if Rick radio'd Alexandria and spoke to Carol and during this time Carol leaves to find Daryl because she knows Rick is watching them and ensuring their safety.... Just a thought
@@TWDExplained I didn’t even catch that detail….. I was trying to easily explain away timeline issues I suppose 😂… it does look mostly healed so I’d agree with a few weeks to month or so… but I think that’s enough time to have some changes made and make sure things are stabilized before heading out. There’s a lot to fix but I think they went back and had interviews and told everyone, maybe made trips back out to Portland.. idk. It seems like it’s a lot but things also seem to move quick in their world too
Have to wonder why beale contradicted himself, they destroyed Omaha since in 30 years they would become a strain on resources, but according to the echelon briefing humanity was gonna end after 14 years so why would they destroy omaha if humanity was gonna be gone by then?!
I would include Beal's spies too. He said they were spread out across communities all over the continent and the globe. Could there potentially be ties to the CRM and France?
They couldn’t have been there for more then a few weeks Rick still has stitches in the cut on his forehead he got fighting the crm soldier in the elevator
could happen - I also asked the question in some videos - what if each spinoff bad guy is defeated by that spinoff hero? What would a endgame/reunion show be???
I didn't even notice the 1 Circle. It will probably take time until the alliance grows again to include Portland, the Commonwealth, Alexandria and any other community. We got a teeny weeny bit with Estaban and the the CR citizens and then nothing, it's a shame we didn't witness the aftermath, it didn't even have to be long, the voiceover with a montage would've been enough. Carol was too nonchalant when speaking with Daryl, if Rick had returned she would've been more upbeat, but Gimble could retcon that conversation in The Book of Daryl. I still feel like the finale was way to crammed and rushed, feature length would've made it so much more enjoyable... but since we got tear jerking fan service in the form of the Grimes reunion, it was better than a did they or didn't they ending.
Question to all The Civic Republic could now alliance with the Commonwealth....Portland probably isn't a member of the alliance right now. But we don't know how many people or communities are active on the american continent. This would be interesting to see in a season 2. Especially the CR and the Commonwealth....
Hope they make a crm origin story showing the national guard transition into the crm and their little civil war with the remnants of the army it kinda explains why everything fell meanwhile the military is still operational in the last of us universe
People keep saying oh rick should have joined the CRM sooner to escape.. the offer to join was only there after the 6 years of clearing the walkers. Same for any job (Esteban, Thorne etc) and crazy to think michone would have cut ricks hand off in episode 1 if he hadn't already
Good Catch! It all sounds very logical. You are probably right. I did notice that Michonne magically had her sword back & Rick had his ax back on his side. Its like they had returned to their old selves before they both left. There probably was time in between. Trying to figure out the timeline can literaly make your head hurt. Its nuts!! I hope we get Daryl in Jun because I am really curious now to see how they are going to continue it!
I noticed the sword too! and the way they were sitting on the large helicopter side by side holding hands in the passenger/cargo area. Why did they change from the small efficient chopper for the large one? and who was driving it? not rick
There were 2 other similar choppers, one with supplies hanging from it flying over as they were hugging. SO it seems more people and supplies came with them.
Lol yeah im basically just a mindless ape when I watch these things I guess. This guys got a phd in walking dead analysis. I think the showriters take notes.
I would like to know what you think about the 14 years until humanity ends that was brought up to justify the killing of all yhose people. Will it be brought up later in one of the spin-offs?
This was the laziest possible way they could’ve ended this series. The entire political reformation of a nation of 200,000 people was summarized in a single voiceover by a news reporter. Now with Rick’s story seemingly concluded and no more larger threat left in the universe, I have no more interest in this franchise. There’s no central narrative left.
Not really, they still have yet to explore the remnants of the actual government, who probably went to live in some underground and well hidden bunker cities. The national guard is the highest authority of the land now? Who knows what kind or resources they have or might be looking for after 15 years. They could break out all the top secret hardware we never got to know about. There are still story possibilities for them, there is always a danger creep.
Basically they should have showed how they were changing CR because now it feels easy and fast because they didn't show it, Beale dying is ok to me too but like he should have died in like third fight, first he fights with rick and survives then he has swordfight with Michonne and survives and then at the end they kill him
During the echelon briefing Beale says that the CRM”supplied test subject the CRM funded labs UP UNTILL RECENTLY” Now it’s possible the boat that Daryl was on was not CRM related. But if they are CRM test subjects that would mean that the ones who live takes place slightly after carol calls Daryl as the boat was still operating. It’s very possible that the boat explosion is why he said “up untill recently”
Also grenades, depression, commando zombies, deserter punishment, any questioning of his loyalty to any certain cause, gun shot wounds, heartbreak, probably snakes.
See the thing is how does towl tineline get passed the walking dead timeline.. they messed that up big time... episode 4 michionne said RJ is 8. It was always said rick disappeared around 3 and half years in..
With the Grenades went off we see all of the Frontliners I was like Bang goes the Dynamite I got the Dialogue from Survival instinct when Merle and Daryl plans to distract the Walkers from Reaching Barksdale Georgia savage son's Motorcycle Club they use Fireworks Merle in the Game is Amazing Michael Rooker did Amazing Job for Playing Merle Dixon and Norman Reedus as Daryl Dixon great Characters
The whole seasons was sub par, episode one was amazing, but as far as what we got in totality, not good enough for waiting years. But yes they should have showed us the process from the bombing until they helped change the CR
My favorite episode was 4. The acting was awesome. When he found out he had a son changed everything. Yes this series was rushed and then all I cared about was for him to go home. And the ending was perfect. Remember when they were talking about making movies? Well because of covid that changed everything. I hope we get to see more. Now I can't wait to see Daryl and Carol. Phenomenal actors also. Thanks for sharing the video 💖
Rick will definitely looking for Daryl. Do we not remember season 1, Rick left his family immediately after finding them to save the life of a racist scumbag.
They definitely had to have a time jump to catch up to Twds ending since think it was ahead by a while but maybe they jumped from what was about 11.5 years or 12 years in based off R.J. being 8 so of course about 8 years and 9 months it’s been since ricks “death” so 3.5+8 + 9 months is 12 years and 3 months btw the 9 months are the months after michonne is pregnant well actually 8 since a month passed in those 5 eps so the main show ended at 13.5 years in and episode 6 when they were at the cascades base should’ve been around 12 years maybe not though maybe it was closer to the end of the main show idk they messed up the timeline
10 years in is World Beyond and the Whisperers pike scene. Fast forward to season 10. That’s about another year as stated by Lydia. 11 years. 6 month jump in commonwealth arc is 11.5 years. Another year is 12.5 years. Maybe a a bit more if I’m off by a few months or so. But in that ballpark. It has to be 2022 I just realized.
@@OWmyDragonBallz so it’s about year 9.5 when s9 episode 6 starts but the only confirmation we get of the timeline is in S10 so S10 started around 11 yrs and 3 months in supposedly but we get a confirmation in here’s Megan that’s it’s been 12 years then we get the 6 month and then 1 year time jump which puts us at 13.5
@@shaquille7414 Here’s Negan time line is an inconsistency. There’s no way it’s been 12 years. That would contradict the 6 year time jump on top of the 3.5-4 years season 1-9 covered up to when Rick is taken.
based on the end of the ones who live i would think they already did. the end of walking dead ended with judith and rj looking out over the commonwealths walls, and judith and rj just met back up with rick and michonne
@@guy3641There’s literally nothing about the ending that even hints at the Commonwealth. They simply meet Judith and RJ in some random field with no evidence on where they actually are.
@@dragerdet okay but it’s a TV show so it’s dumb and kinda logically makes no sense to assume they’re somewhere else if they didn’t hint at them being somewhere else.
I’m three episodes in and I’m not gonna lie I’m not exactly enjoying it, I just keep telling myself him Seeing Judith again and going back to Alexandria would make to all worth it in the end, someone please tell me that happens, if it doesent I’m just gonna boycott it after 14 years. Smh
Its funny but Portland is a hellhole anyway. LOL. So that is one prediction that this show did so far. I am also kind of wandering why Carol didn't have more excitement on her voice when she told Daryl that Rick is back. If I recall, Dwight said he is going back to the Sanctuary. I can't wait to see how that plays when when Daryl gets back. #quadstatecameras
yeah no war, we had big expectations but we forget that gimple brain is small when the ideas need to be executed, he has amazing ideas, the crm, french and variant walkers, the reapers, but he execute them so poorly in the worst way possible
I was like Wow We have the Civic Republic Military Civic Republic Council we remember the News Anchor Played by Les Trent he must have done other Works American Journal Extra The UNXplained Inside Edition Weekend Inside Edition
im glad you, adn these comments know how fucking stuipid this finale was. Rushed, and so much wasted potential. A voiceover radio message for such an important thing? So many logical issues everywhere. Wasted beale and thornes character. Years of teasing, just to end up with 30 minutes of a "fight". so upsetting
I think that last episode was the weak part of the series. The explosions were ridiculous and that kid they hired to play Rick’s son was terrible. Zero emotion. Whose producer’s kid was that? 😆
Another reason why the ending felt rushed. The aftermath of the CRM bombing was basically non-existent. It literally went from Rick and Michonne on top of the storage car to the helicopter en route to ASZ. ALL information about the aftermath was done in a voiceover. I loved the show but this felt cheap. They could have at least done a montage or something showing the CRM regrouping. Show Estaban again and the other civilians learning about the CRM plans, etc.
All of the CRM corrupt high ups being at that location right by the gas was convenient. Like, the finale was good and all, but the CRM that has been teased for about 7 years now just taken down in one episode… I guess the next phase of TWD will be focusing more on the variant walkers/ biological threats like Beale was talking about but even another season of Beale and CRM would have been nice, or a longer season.
I think they met them at the common wealth but im not sure
I think this is the fault because they were supposed to have 10 episodes.
They met outside of Commonwealth.
@@sevun07they were? What the hell happened? I feel cheated
A veeerrryyy long build up to a very game of thrones type of letdown concerning the CRM.
The Rick/Michonne part was cool though.
At least they didn’t character assassinate Rick and Michone like Daenerys and so many others.
@@TheAireaidLordI understand the GOT season 8 comparisons, and agree with a lot of them. But you’re right, Rick and Michonne stayed true to their characters to the end. It makes it much better than the GOT ending imo.
I believe Thorne is still alive yea there were many walkers and this gas but she survived worse and we didn’t really see her die
I remember as I was watching the last episode thinking to myself .. ain’t no way this is the final season .. ain’t no way they about to do us like game of thrones … rush through the big bad final boss just to end the story 🤦🏻♂️ , then we got to the end of the episode and was like yep they did some Dan and Dan type of writing
@@JayHaram I was saying the same thing! I have still not really gotten over it. In time I will but I just can't believe they took that route but there it is and we have to go on unfortunately. I am looking forward to what will come next in Daryl!
The cut on Rick's head shows you that barely a week or so passed before they flew home. No need for Rick to be mentioned in Dead City, Negan wouldn't care and Maggie wouldn't see it as any of his business if she knew. I could imagine Carol deciding to go and look for Daryl since looking for Rick is why he is out there in the first place.
Totally agree. Rick and Michonne wouldn't stick around very long after achieving their goal, they'd be getting home as quickly as possible. I do think Negan would care to an extent about Rick being back, but I think he's been back long enough in the timeline that no mention of him is necessary, agreed.
Yes. Also, I don’t think Carol would leave the kids with anyone but their own parents. She was pretty much the mother figure to them by the time Daryl left to search.
Wait so you think they’d take out the bad guys and let people they don’t know if good or bad take over beales spot and he’s told Rick he had spies so I feel like Rick and michine would at least stay a week or less because to see what happened and to tell the people what happened and what the crm did and notice his wound is stitched and cared for properly most like went to Portland or to civil republic and got medical aid in
I think the time jump at the end of TWOL is only several weeks/a couple of months at most - based on the state of Rick’s head wound. It was still healing but also mostly healed. I also think Carol said “Dwight came back” based on her tone. Daryl had told Dwight not to come back ever again….
The single circle on the chopper is a good catch! I didn't notice it and I've watched a ton of videos and nobody brought that up! Also this video reminded me, what the hell happened to the rebellion forming after World Beyond?? One of many unanswered questions ☹️
I like to picture Rick's friend Esteban from episode one, walking around hearing the news. Quietly thinking to himself he did this.
yep - for sure
They contacted Portland, they were gathering evidence of Beal and the things he did, they probably had radio contact...
I still say Carol would have mentioned it first thing and not been so mopey and casual...
Lots of things don't make sense
yeah.. she knew daryl was out looking for rick, why would she let him keep looking if he was already back..? that part doesn't make sense so i don't think it was rick coming back when the radio transmission was made. we will just have to see eventually!
Imo it sounds like she’s actually in distress. She probably did say Rick but if they’re in danger then she wouldn’t want Daryl walking in blind.
During the echelon briefing Beal said that they had been supplying test subjects “up untill recently” during the time that Daryl got the call the boat still existed which means the CRM was still supplying test subjects meaning Daryl Dixon takes place before this… unless of course the boat and test subject are not CRM related
Also doesn't make sense for maggie to go to new york alone if towl takes place 11-12 or even 14 years into the apocalypse and dead city takes place 15 years in then why is maggie alone in New York? She could've taken a crm team, rick is still high up in the ranks he isn't a regular no name soldier also negan running away could be explained by rick returning and him being afraid of rick
@@icrywhenisleep2130Because Maggie is stupid 🥲
Rick’s head wound had largely healed so it had been a few months before they went home. I assume that wasn’t the first radio contact. I imagine the kids knew she’d found him and would be coming home soon, but then they stayed at CR to ensure the Beale regime had been squashed and for those initial changes to be implemented. Although I’d liked to have seen some of that I get why they didn’t show it, as I don’t think it was enough for a whole other episode and the voiceover gave all the info. Maybe has this finale been 15 mins longer to add it in, but ultimately it was a show about Rick and Michonne getting home. That was the focus. I’d assume they still have status at CR so if they ever want to weave it back in, they could do in future.
Again…THERE IS NO WAY CAROL WOULD BE THAT CALM TELLING DARYL THAT. She’d be screaming, happy, crying. Lol
I don't think Carol was talking about Rick on the radio and Carol already gone when Rick and Michonne returned.
Its Really hard to know. Technically Ones Who Live was suppose to take place during the last season of Original show. It just depends on how long it took for them to get back after the explosion. I wish they would give us more help on that so we could get a clearer picture. That is one of things about this universe that drives me crazy!
@MorganJones-tk1mw I don't know. I think Morgan is a stretch but you never know....
Jeffery Morgan said in an interview all the time lines are CAUGHT up so there’s a reunion to be made I do think they left quicker than you think…. They have all talked about it. The biggest threat is now the herd of walkers millions strong 💪🏻
I’m confused. Why are some confused about realism in a show about a zombie apocalypse? 🤷🏼♀️ I took the one circle to mean now that the CR knows what the CRM was doing-everyone is now free to be in/part of the circle. It stands to reason especially if they’re offering openness, help, and embracing of other communities.
Because the rest of the rules of reality need to apply. If the show is about how normal people in our world would survive a zombie apocalypse, everything about the world, minus the zombies, has to follow the same rules as our own.
Even fictional worlds have rules, and they need to be consistent. Whether it's based on the real world or some crazy fantasy world or advanced scifi world.
In world beyond the CR was trying to gain oversight of the CRM. Its just that Beale and the rest were so corrupt and secretive they never allowed it. Once the soldiers were taken out they had the means to restore order.
A zombie Apocalypse is more likely to happen than two people surviving a blast that big when they're right next to it
3 people thorn was right in front
I like how the only 3 survivors were the 3 closest to the blast
Yup! I had a problem with that too. Pretty much every piece of this episode I had issue with. I couldn't help it. It was so badly done. I can turn away from a couple of things but when its everything its really hard!!
Your more likely to survive a blast if your close to the center of it, but survival and being deaf, concussed, and seriously injuried are different things. The shrapnel alone would have been a real issue, then the gas, the shock wave, etc, survival is one thing, untouched or affected is a totally different thing!
It wasn’t the blast they survived it was the chlorine gas, they used water and Thorne used a mask. The bomb just set off the gas that they were going to use on the city. They gassed the army. People don’t seem to get that, if obviously wasn’t clear enough. The bomb blast wasn’t that big, just enough to set off the gas.
I think Rick won’t let the change happen again, the symbol now means we’re all ONE circle. All together. And that’s their mindset.
i believe , the single circle most likely means, that they are one whole now, because before it was just an alliance without anyone knowing where CR is , but now they know where it is they mightve joined forces and became one governement
Esteban's GF was a journalist...maybe she had a part in the revolution.
I hope to see him again. He was such a great guy.
You mean Al from ftwd? Lol
@@dakotaelliott5731no we never met the lady. She was mentioned only in TOWL.
@@rarevhsuploads4995 oh we've definitely met her! It just hasn't been revealed that it's her yet.
The wound on Rick's head also indicates there was some time that passed. You could barely notice it so at least a month or so passed. I'm sure they worked with setting up the oversight council. Esteban's girlfriend was a journalist so helped get things hooked up to get the word out. The Last Time is titled that for a reason. I suspect Carol did say "Rick came back". I also suspect that Carl might have been hesitant about being excited because Rick filled her in on there being spies in other communities and her not being sure how safe it was to talk on open airways. I believe that by the time Daryl doesn't show back up in a time frame they feel he should be back, Michonne has learned she's pregnant with another Baby Grimes and because they agreed not to be apart again, he just got back and needs to make up for lost time, Carol goes out on her own looking for Daryl.
Pollyanna has done amazing Job for Playing the Character Jadis in The Walking Dead The Walking Dead World Beyond and The One's Who Live
agree
I thought the change in logo from 3 circles to 1 circle was a symbol of unity not an exclusion. They are now working together for a common future as one entity instead of 3 different entities with their own agendas.
yes - it could be A Combined Country
yes symbol of humanity
I agree with some of the others. No way Carol said Rick so nonchalantly without any emotion. I'll go with Dwight since he and Sherry went back to the sanctuary and that her hesitancy was due to knowing that there are some bad feelings between Daryl and Dwight.
That really solid reasoning. You have me convinced.
Admittedly, it does sound like Carol says “ick came back”, but I suppose that could just be radio interference.
Seeing the fall of the CRM makes The World beyond series seem almost useless. I thought the rouge scientists and the main characters on that show would play a role in TOWL....
If Carol told Daryl that Rick was back, then that's the FIRST thing she would have told him, because she knows that's why Daryl left to look for Rick.
Unless
A.) Rick left again and isn't there anymore
B.) Rick died
If one of those two things happen, then it makes perfect sense why she wouldn't say it right away
@@eddykaye8217 Suppose that is a possibility.
2:15 I thought the one circle meant for everyone. Like instead of 3 communities there is now one.
yes it could be a Combined Country as in the thumbnail title - as in the entire country of communities - or CR only
Its a bad idea the CRC letting in people who probably are feral & highly dangerous without 6 years for citizenship
True but six years is a little much don’t you think?
@@brianachim2670well you could say that it should be longer than 6 years. The CRM started to fall as soon as Rick and Michonne gained citizenship.
@@zino4030 No I couldn’t say that, I will say destruction happens whenever and wherever Rick and Michonne go XD
@@zino4030neither gained citizenship
@@BlondeAndBougie Rick did
I would give the time Gap probably a month-ish. Portland may still be part of the CRM they are just now combined as One. Emphasis on the capital O. And the 14 years definitely is a good play for the series. And a head communication with Alexandria and or the Commonwealth because the kids met them in the middle of a freaking field so someone knew they were coming. The reunion probably happened after Carol left but Carol didn't form Daryl that Rick was back. She knew via the radio
I'm still waffling on this finale. I'm intrigued by the future clean slate, but, like, they did 5 years of content in a broadcast voice over. I guess now we know why they pulled back from the CRM, they weren't going to be around much longer. Such a massive disappointment with that aspect. Truly saddening and frankly very confusing. Where on earth are we going now? The heroes have a damn military at their back now, where's the conflict and why continue with spin offs that don't play a part in a greater whole? Asking more rhetorically than literally, but still I wonder.
yep such a let down
Right there with you!!
What do you mean “where are we going”? You don’t think it’s time they wrap the story up and take back the world like they do in the comics? You want them to keep finding new enemies or villains to fight? lol
@@Mario2Master Well I want all I can get because I love the show. It would be fine if they want to wrap it. But I would prefer if they took a little more care & made it make more sense and was not done in 45 min. I think the characters deserve that!
@@Mario2Master I mean that literally. There's no real conflict now that heroes are home and no real threat now that we have a military. What you described is what we got - wrapped up the story and rebuilding the world. If you got ideas, I'm all ears!
There's no way Carol's gonna wait such a while into her convo with Daryl to let her know the return of who's responsible for him leaving in the first place. It just makes no sense. Poor Ezekiel.
That's a good catch with the circle.
Perhaps the helicopter type is another things-are-different-now clue.
Like they're pulling a Rick. Like they're leaving the black helicopters behind just like Rick's CRM hand.
Poor Ezekiel? Is there something I don’t know yet?
yea after commonwealth was invaded ezekiel got gassed and killed@@OWmyDragonBallz
@@hybridhealthofficialthe CRM didn’t gas the commonwealth.
did you not watch the flashback post credit scene@@OWmyDragonBallz
@@mrdiamond_official There was no credit scene. I watched all of it.
I think the reuinion was filmed as a alternate ending. The orignal ending was rick and michonne standing on top of the shipping containers wondering what happens next. i think if the show as gonna continue it would be the aftermath of the crm and the journey home. If there wasnt gonna be a season two for whatever reason they had the reunion already filmed and added it on after what would have been the final scene.
From the interview with Andy he’s very clear that he wanted time reunion, so I would’ve thought that that was always the planned end point for these 6 episodes.
I think the single circle more says they are all in it together as one. CR, CRM, Portland and everyone else on the continent that they can rescue now.
I commented on your other video that I think a year or two has passed since the explosion and they kept an eye on Alexandria etc to help stabilize CR and help make the changes... But they had the ability to keep an eye on them because of the helicopters etc... I wonder if Rick radio'd Alexandria and spoke to Carol and during this time Carol leaves to find Daryl because she knows Rick is watching them and ensuring their safety.... Just a thought
the cut on his forehead still in stitches says it was probably only a few weeks - but that just makes the timeline harder to believe overall
@@TWDExplained I didn’t even catch that detail….. I was trying to easily explain away timeline issues I suppose 😂… it does look mostly healed so I’d agree with a few weeks to month or so… but I think that’s enough time to have some changes made and make sure things are stabilized before heading out. There’s a lot to fix but I think they went back and had interviews and told everyone, maybe made trips back out to Portland.. idk. It seems like it’s a lot but things also seem to move quick in their world too
Have to wonder why beale contradicted himself, they destroyed Omaha since in 30 years they would become a strain on resources, but according to the echelon briefing humanity was gonna end after 14 years so why would they destroy omaha if humanity was gonna be gone by then?!
İf they wouldnt destroy omaha it was 14years. They trying to make longer as possible.
One or two wildcars are Lieutenant Colonel Kublek and Mason Beale... 🤔
Kublek was probably found guilty after her trial and died. Mason though….. He’s coming for Rick.😈
Thorne also (possibly)
we did not see her actually die - but if she is alive - would she be a bad guy in the future?
@@TWDExplained She’s DEAD🤣
I would include Beal's spies too. He said they were spread out across communities all over the continent and the globe. Could there potentially be ties to the CRM and France?
I wish they did a full episode on the CRM maybe a flashback or mini backstory instead of one if the filler episodes they did
I want to know where Rick's hand is.
There has to be a reunion season where all of our favorite characters get back together.
it was in the room where he left it for thorne to change her mind one last time
i want all one 3-4 one hand people to come together , what was that girl name daughter of alpha
What about his original hand 😁. Maybe it crawled off... Rick's a unique case from waking up after the outbreak 😆, each body part reanimates
@@guy3641 Not the metal hand. The real hand! 😂
@@Rninetugs It’s swimming across the Atlantic to meet up with Daryl.
They couldn’t have been there for more then a few weeks Rick still has stitches in the cut on his forehead he got fighting the crm soldier in the elevator
James does the CR know how expensive it’ll be to rebrand their logo and change all their flags, vehicles, clothing and water bottles into one circle?😂
they did love to put that logo on everything
@@TWDExplained Exactly so imagine that nightmare. Btw any thoughts on how the universe will keep going now that the Civic Republic is public?
@@brianachim2670 just my Genet/Invasion theory
@@TWDExplained Watch Daryl and Carol take her and her army out in the finale 😎
could happen - I also asked the question in some videos - what if each spinoff bad guy is defeated by that spinoff hero? What would a endgame/reunion show be???
Rick surviving granade explosion reminds me of Adrew Lincoln joke about TWD "perfect ending".
I've been waiting for GoT style political games starting with Rick joining CRM after the briefing((
If you look at ricks forehead I'd say the wound is 2 weeks healed,...still has stitches ..some indication of time
A much better analysis compared to movie Idol keep up the great content
I didn't even notice the 1 Circle. It will probably take time until the alliance grows again to include Portland, the Commonwealth, Alexandria and any other community. We got a teeny weeny bit with Estaban and the the CR citizens and then nothing, it's a shame we didn't witness the aftermath, it didn't even have to be long, the voiceover with a montage would've been enough. Carol was too nonchalant when speaking with Daryl, if Rick had returned she would've been more upbeat, but Gimble could retcon that conversation in The Book of Daryl. I still feel like the finale was way to crammed and rushed, feature length would've made it so much more enjoyable... but since we got tear jerking fan service in the form of the Grimes reunion, it was better than a did they or didn't they ending.
Question to all
The Civic Republic could now alliance with the Commonwealth....Portland probably isn't a member of the alliance right now. But we don't know how many people or communities are active on the american continent. This would be interesting to see in a season 2. Especially the CR and the Commonwealth....
I also realised, with an explosion like that, surely that water would be "boiling" hot?
Hope they make a crm origin story showing the national guard transition into the crm and their little civil war with the remnants of the army it kinda explains why everything fell meanwhile the military is still operational in the last of us universe
I think Carol wouldn't tell Daryl WHO came back because it could have made him put himself in Danger rushing home.
But she did. We literally heard her say it over the radio. The only mystery was who’s name she actually said.
People keep saying oh rick should have joined the CRM sooner to escape.. the offer to join was only there after the 6 years of clearing the walkers. Same for any job (Esteban, Thorne etc) and crazy to think michone would have cut ricks hand off in episode 1 if he hadn't already
That’s not correct, that’s only if you want to become a citizen.
What told me time passed was Rick’s head wound was almost healed.
You know Rick started The rebellion. for free movement.
Good Catch! It all sounds very logical. You are probably right. I did notice that Michonne magically had her sword back & Rick had his ax back on his side. Its like they had returned to their old selves before they both left. There probably was time in between. Trying to figure out the timeline can literaly make your head hurt. Its nuts!! I hope we get Daryl in Jun because I am really curious now to see how they are going to continue it!
I noticed the sword too! and the way they were sitting on the large helicopter side by side holding hands in the passenger/cargo area. Why did they change from the small efficient chopper for the large one? and who was driving it? not rick
@@geometricdesigns3620 We could go all day about all things that are not explained or unbelievable. That is why I was disappointed with the episode.
There were 2 other similar choppers, one with supplies hanging from it flying over as they were hugging. SO it seems more people and supplies came with them.
Well, now they know that we want to know more about the crm, and they could make something out of that voice-over :D
The real tru for come out in the spin-offs about what happened with Rick and Michelle.
Crazy observations
Lol yeah im basically just a mindless ape when I watch these things I guess. This guys got a phd in walking dead analysis. I think the showriters take notes.
Where were the trains heading to in the walking dead?
The 3 Circle Flag or Logo looks exactly like the German Military Company ThyssenKrupp.
They could of made the 3 circles one because they are all 1 now.
yes - could be a combined country
did you see the show me more video on the walking dead channel?
I would like to know what you think about the 14 years until humanity ends that was brought up to justify the killing of all yhose people.
Will it be brought up later in one of the spin-offs?
not sure - but there was a Tales episode set farther than that - soooooo
@@TWDExplained They made it! Yes! LOL!
@@TWDExplainedhow many years does the tales episode take place?
People argue about it now - but the show runner of Tales said it was 35 years into the future
@@TWDExplained Wasn’t that a lie?😅
It was all a Dre shown killed Rick probably in episode one by accident not knowing he was owned the helicopter.
Of course they went back to Philly. Thats where her Katana and Boots were.
This was the laziest possible way they could’ve ended this series. The entire political reformation of a nation of 200,000 people was summarized in a single voiceover by a news reporter. Now with Rick’s story seemingly concluded and no more larger threat left in the universe, I have no more interest in this franchise. There’s no central narrative left.
Not really, they still have yet to explore the remnants of the actual government, who probably went to live in some underground and well hidden bunker cities. The national guard is the highest authority of the land now? Who knows what kind or resources they have or might be looking for after 15 years. They could break out all the top secret hardware we never got to know about. There are still story possibilities for them, there is always a danger creep.
well said
250,000
What are you talking about? The French are the threat. They are building "Super Walkers" The French army is the "Largest threat"
@@eddykaye8217 Daryl and Carol will easily defeat them
This season to a real fan up or down...WAS THEEE SHIT. WAITING FOR WHAT'S TO COME... TEAM TWD
Basically they should have showed how they were changing CR because now it feels easy and fast because they didn't show it, Beale dying is ok to me too but like he should have died in like third fight, first he fights with rick and survives then he has swordfight with Michonne and survives and then at the end they kill him
Nice Reunion - Cameos 😲😊👊✊👍♈🍁♈
During the echelon briefing Beale says that the CRM”supplied test subject the CRM funded labs UP UNTILL RECENTLY”
Now it’s possible the boat that Daryl was on was not CRM related. But if they are CRM test subjects that would mean that the ones who live takes place slightly after carol calls Daryl as the boat was still operating. It’s very possible that the boat explosion is why he said “up untill recently”
*subjects to CRM funded labs
Yes
it was because of what happened in WB
its because of WB they destroy the labs
Rick can send the CRM or commonwealth soldiers to go get Daryl and Carol
They really turned on Thorne huh? She cared for Rick she could’ve been saved!
It was closure 🧟♀️
Wait so isnt rick the new leader of the crm??
we did not get that info - probably not ??
Rick is immune to the gas lol
Also grenades, depression, commando zombies, deserter punishment, any questioning of his loyalty to any certain cause, gun shot wounds, heartbreak, probably snakes.
See the thing is how does towl tineline get passed the walking dead timeline.. they messed that up big time... episode 4 michionne said RJ is 8. It was always said rick disappeared around 3 and half years in..
No she said almost 8, RJ is 7
@@brianachim2670 timeline is still wrong even at 7 years old.
@@Dazza3456 How? Also the wiki confirmed they’re in 2022.
@@brianachim2670 welll if rick disappeared 3 and half years in, michionne was just pregnant..
@@brianachim2670 never follow wiki that can be edited
With the Grenades went off we see all of the Frontliners I was like Bang goes the Dynamite I got the Dialogue from Survival instinct when Merle and Daryl plans to distract the Walkers from Reaching Barksdale Georgia savage son's Motorcycle Club they use Fireworks Merle in the Game is Amazing Michael Rooker did Amazing Job for Playing Merle Dixon and Norman Reedus as Daryl Dixon great Characters
"Bang goes the dynamite!" - I like it
The whole seasons was sub par, episode one was amazing, but as far as what we got in totality, not good enough for waiting years. But yes they should have showed us the process from the bombing until they helped change the CR
My favorite episode was 4. The acting was awesome. When he found out he had a son changed everything. Yes this series was rushed and then all I cared about was for him to go home. And the ending was perfect. Remember when they were talking about making movies? Well because of covid that changed everything. I hope we get to see more. Now I can't wait to see Daryl and Carol. Phenomenal actors also. Thanks for sharing the video 💖
Rick will definitely looking for Daryl. Do we not remember season 1, Rick left his family immediately after finding them to save the life of a racist scumbag.
They definitely had to have a time jump to catch up to Twds ending since think it was ahead by a while but maybe they jumped from what was about 11.5 years or 12 years in based off R.J. being 8 so of course about 8 years and 9 months it’s been since ricks “death” so 3.5+8 + 9 months is 12 years and 3 months btw the 9 months are the months after michonne is pregnant well actually 8 since a month passed in those 5 eps so the main show ended at 13.5 years in and episode 6 when they were at the cascades base should’ve been around 12 years maybe not though maybe it was closer to the end of the main show idk they messed up the timeline
10 years in is World Beyond and the Whisperers pike scene. Fast forward to season 10. That’s about another year as stated by Lydia.
11 years.
6 month jump in commonwealth arc is 11.5 years. Another year is 12.5 years. Maybe a a bit more if I’m off by a few months or so. But in that ballpark.
It has to be 2022 I just realized.
@@OWmyDragonBallz so it’s about year 9.5 when s9 episode 6 starts but the only confirmation we get of the timeline is in S10 so S10 started around 11 yrs and 3 months in supposedly but we get a confirmation in here’s Megan that’s it’s been 12 years then we get the 6 month and then 1 year time jump which puts us at 13.5
@@shaquille7414 Here’s Negan time line is an inconsistency. There’s no way it’s been 12 years. That would contradict the 6 year time jump on top of the 3.5-4 years season 1-9 covered up to when Rick is taken.
@@OWmyDragonBallzOn that we can agree, Here’s Negan was a MESS 😵💫
Could Commonwealth become part of the Civic Republic?
based on the end of the ones who live i would think they already did. the end of walking dead ended with judith and rj looking out over the commonwealths walls, and judith and rj just met back up with rick and michonne
@@guy3641There’s literally nothing about the ending that even hints at the Commonwealth. They simply meet Judith and RJ in some random field with no evidence on where they actually are.
@@OWmyDragonBallzwell Judith and RJ were last at the commonwealth so why would they be somewhere else now?
@@EthanHebert-a lot can happen in the years between twd and twol finale lol
@@dragerdet okay but it’s a TV show so it’s dumb and kinda logically makes no sense to assume they’re somewhere else if they didn’t hint at them being somewhere else.
Dissatisfied about the ending
CRM 1 Circle Logo VS CRM 2 Circle Logo Civil War?
Maybe the entire Grimes family goes looking for Daryl? Also, maybe Carol will bring him back soon.
I don't see it, but hey, we can dream.
gas only last a year without gas people are walking or cycling witch is slower
Gas actually "lasts" decades, but the potency of it fades away. The gas won't work as well as it ages
Once all the shows are done what's this dude gonna do with the channel
I will be starting to add other media (non-TWDU) and thangs very soon - before Daryl Dixon starts
@@TWDExplained Sounds great!
I could see Rick saying “Carol go get our boy.” What father would leave his son after being gone 8 years?!
Have you met RJ?😅
I’m three episodes in and I’m not gonna lie I’m not exactly enjoying it, I just keep telling myself him
Seeing Judith again and going back to Alexandria would make to all worth it in the end, someone please tell me that happens, if it doesent I’m just gonna boycott it after 14 years. Smh
Its funny but Portland is a hellhole anyway. LOL. So that is one prediction that this show did so far. I am also kind of wandering why Carol didn't have more excitement on her voice when she told Daryl that Rick is back. If I recall, Dwight said he is going back to the Sanctuary. I can't wait to see how that plays when when Daryl gets back.
#quadstatecameras
Commonwealth
yeah no war, we had big expectations but we forget that gimple brain is small when the ideas need to be executed, he has amazing ideas, the crm, french and variant walkers, the reapers, but he execute them so poorly in the worst way possible
I was like Wow We have the Civic Republic Military Civic Republic Council we remember the News Anchor Played by Les Trent he must have done other Works
American Journal
Extra
The UNXplained
Inside Edition Weekend
Inside Edition
Should have been 8 episodes. Needed more. It was way too rushed. 🧟♀️ A lot happened and was explained but far too quickly.
Wb the million strong hordes
surely that will be addressed in a future show? Maybe that is what Genet will come over and shoot darts into?
Carol said Judith came back.
Bad writing as usual. 😢
5:02 Btw World Beyond was completely useless and unnecessary.
im glad you, adn these comments know how fucking stuipid this finale was. Rushed, and so much wasted potential. A voiceover radio message for such an important thing? So many logical issues everywhere. Wasted beale and thornes character. Years of teasing, just to end up with 30 minutes of a "fight". so upsetting
They should put the commonwealth logo inside the single circle and put it on the helicopters
No CWA vs CRM was the biggest dissapoint, No Portland this last episode was good after the first 16min
I think that last episode was the weak part of the series. The explosions were ridiculous and that kid they hired to play Rick’s son was terrible. Zero emotion. Whose producer’s kid was that? 😆
Show felt cheesy after episode 1 and 2 imo
No one stands as close as they were and not get killed in big blast and killing bealewas some dumb shit move
But what about Portland ?
First 😎
I think Rick and Michonne were at the civic republic for months to a year. Additionally, they were in contact with Judith and RJ during that time.