Maybe if the CRM had spent less time messing around with chlorine gas and instead dug a bunch of those giant trenches for the walker hordes to fall into, humanity might make it past 14 years lol
For years, I kept thinking, why don't they dig deep trenches around whatever communities they set up and use drawbridges? They still have heavy machinery to help them dig and everything.
Well you gotta think as the months go by those corpses will pile and eventually they'll fill the trench up. You'd have to have people go down in the hole and clear them out every now and then or just burn the trench once in a while but this would stink the place up badly.
There’s been points in our real world past where the entire human population was knocked down to around 10,000 globally, and we’ve built that back up to its current levels so humanity will be fine in twd world eventually. After a 100 or so years in, once most walkers have decomposed away, they’ll either find a cure or adapt to living with the walker virus after death.
@@DeagleGamesTV yeah I know I was saying that as long as humans exist unless they find a cure to the bite so people won’t die from it and from not turning in general walkers wouldn’t go away completely
@@shaquille7414 they need to show herd’s of super fresh walkers that was from the post credit scene in World Beyond. Maybe that’s the end game reunion they got in mind. Have our group fight them. Because now that they easily killed an advanced military equipped with weapons,missiles and poisonous gases so easy. Human villains going forward like Doma’s group, a lady in France etc. realistically shouldn’t be so hard to defeat.
the virus is airborne, after about 100 years there might be reports of families getting ate in the middle of the night due to someone passing in their sleep. walkers might go away but the virus will be around for a while, unless they find a cure. it’s probably gonna be like measles and other viruses we get shots for irl.
The thing is, I wouldn’t take the CRM’s estimate of what will happen to humanity and how much time we have left seriously at all. They based their estimates on an incomplete data set. Beale admitted that they don’t know what other continents have going on since the world fell. So they made that estimate based solely on data about the US and we know that there’s other stuff going on in Europe at the very least.
His logic is that then they have to share less resources such as food and whatever, the crm end up with a lot more resources (hopefully meaning they will survive for longer) if they aren’t sharing it with 2 other communities
His logic doesn’t make sense,the three other community other than the crm survive many years why they would be a drain.killing other humans for resources will deplete humanity survival,Beale was clueless about his intentions and goals.
@@smokerevenant894 it’s explained that the other communities had started to become a drain on crm resources and never became fully self sufficient instead relying more and more on crm resources and help this is something that’s explained and showed in the spin off world beyond
Not too sure if I watched that episode of Tales. I thought I watched all of them. I am going to seek it out and give it a rewatch. Thanks for the thought provoking video.
The showrunner is wrong. She was just guessing for the interview. I imagine she is the type of person who never watched a single episode and is only doing the job she was paid for.
I think Tales is one of those kind of spin-offs. One off writers and directors that aren't familiar with the source material. So it's hard to say if the stories are even canon?
Let's see. Show runner who actually worked on the show Or Random RUclipsr commenter who not only didn't bring any evidence to class, but also has established themselves as someone who assumes things
James, I dig your on pointedness, if I can turn that into a word real quick. I heard Tales ep 4 took place 35 years in too. So like you, I looked it up..and found more assessments putting it I think about 2 years in, if I recall. I watched the ep again..got no indicators it takes place so far ahead. Thanks for putting forth the origin of that. Imma take it as she was mistaken. Who knows..that could have been the time they set it for prior to the Extinction Agenda storyline (hopeful storyline). I'm really curious how they're gonna play out the post-World Beyond "Ragers". Ok..Daryl Dixon is moving in that direction with the Rager injections. Where one might think the injection will "get worse" and manifest into an airborne amped up version of the virus. But, Dr. Jenner suggests he's aware of these varieties in France in 2010. So I don't know how they're gonna play it out. I just hope they do. Speaking of Tales, CRM, Beale, and Okafor have room to come back in independent stories. I already suspect that "I'm sorry I lied" writing that Rick saw when working on getting Michonne out the CRM, is meant to be part of a Tales, or Webisode ep. But yeah, I hope they just drop that 35 year's in story.. I want that Extinction Agenda to continue with an unknown, spooky, vibe going forward.
@@TWDExplained My memory cross-wires like crazy..it was probably 12 years that I heard..and mis-recalled 2 years since 2 years in would be 2012. But I know for a fact, the main stuff I heard said it took place within the already explored Walking Dead timeline.
Ahh the beauty of another theory discussion as we wait for DD S2! I also read that on reddit & twitter (along with many other theories) - but could not find any article or official word except those quoting the show runner. The show runner could have meant 2035 - which would still be 25 yrs in
Really interesting video and theory. Idk how “canon” I take any of the tales stuff as though. I’m beginning to think that the crazy Groundhog Day episode was made specifically to let us lore nerds say “well tales may or may not be canon” in the event something contradicts later.
There are so many places that are remote and easily defended. They have helicopters so thet could go to any island and clear it. An aircraft carrier holds 5k people. If the zombies were in huge groups they'd be easier to destroy.
Beale couldn’t have said that around 2036, The (main) show takes place in mid-late 2010. The time skip in season 9 and at the end of 11 brought us to 2022 when the main show ended. Judith was about 9 or 10 there and it was Rick’s third attempt to escape the CRM. I believe he’s there for another 5 or 6 years after that seeing as judith looks to be around 13 or 14 at a minimum and RJ looks to be around 5 or 6. The year would be about 2028-2030. Sorry for being annoying just felt like pointing this out
She said only tentative so at the time they may have wanted to go that far ahead. But based in TOWL this episode would have to be within 14 years to not make that pointless, now we have been introduced to a new uncertainty of what will happen.
If it weren’t for your videos, I think I would have lost interest in TWD and fallen out of the loop years ago. Thank you for keeping the fandom alive and great vid!
How would you find enough people and time to dig a giant trench? Maybe had to make a giant fence or wall first to protect the diggers? How would you get all the dead on the other side?
I think they just threw stuff on the wall and didn’t care if it stuck or not. This wouldn’t be the first time AMC set up something with no actual answer, pay off or resolution. They’ll forget everything in a week.😆
Id be curious on your theories of where Health ended up going. Did he become part of another group that we’re unaware of? Clearly he’s not with the CRM so where could he be with that card saying PPP on it?
The main theory is that the PPP card belonged to Jadis - she was the connection to CRM. Heath was taken by Jadis - and traded to CRM - some think as a B - but the show runner said as an A. (Scott GImple said he'd bring the character back maybe if the actor would do it - but....) It can also be retconned as it was Heath's card that he dropped when taken by Jadis. Either way - if he ended up as a B inside CR - it's a big place.
How are there still walkers, not to mention hordes MILLIONS strong, when we’ve seen that walkers do starve, decompose, and overall die off without food? What are these million strong hordes eating that lets them live 15 whole years?
It could be the trench was used to lead Mass hordes to their deaths. I always thought the best way to kill Mass amounts of walkers is leading them off a cliff or into a giant controlled fire. If this story truly is canon maybe it's only bad where he's staying because he's studying the last of the walkers? Also you mentioning the heads being used as propaganda reminds me of Herschel from the comics using them as a sideshow because they are now scarse
This makes alot of sense and it makes me wonder now that they made the trench and then michonne used Nats purple light chemicals for " localized long lasting burns!!" That's why she asked about it ,
I consider the timeline to be undetermined. I know the showrunner did indicate 35 years, but it isn't supported by the episode, itself. (From the dialogue 10-12 years sounds more plausible - but again, that's not confirmed, either) As for the location, it is set in the Wiregrass region of the United States, specifically near the tri-point of Georgia, Alabama, and Florida.
Very Interesting Video! I haven't watched Tales. I haven't heard anything good about it so I didn't think it was worth the time. It sounds like that is the majority of opinions below. It does make you wonder about what Beale said and how long humanity has. I enjoyed reading the comments below but not really sure what to say on matter. I wish they were more clear on timeline. Timeline is my biggest beef with the creators of this show. It really makes you crazy when you take the time to reason it out and you keep hitting walls.
@@TWDExplained Haha! Nah, I know what you're saying because I'm originally from the south. I lived in the Midwest for many years as well so I know how they get confused by even the slightest of southern accents.
A new spinoff was announced to answer this. Fear show runners are starting a limited series called "In the trenches". Travis after falling from the chopper has kept his intelligence despite being a walker. He finds a shovel Shane used to kill the walker in season 2 and he instantly has vision of what to do. He just starts digging the thousand mile trench to trap walkers. He is a special variant walker. He kills walkers by taking their heads off and places them in boxes. He can't die from a head injuries. He growls,can't speak and needs to eat like a walker to live just like other walkers. Since he can't talk he can't tell humans not to "fear him". But his walker instincts are to eat humans so he has the energy to dig the trench. He internally struggles within his mind not to eat humans. But he has to to dig what should he do. Die or eat to save humanity despite eating humans. After he tastes blood,the struggle only gets harder since he enjoyed the taste.The scientist realizes this and since he minored in psychology in college he tries to counsel Travis similar to how Dr. Loomis was in the Halloween films. Should be out summer 2025 Ian Goldberg said.
My guess is that Rick will find out about the Super Zombie Experiments from the Daryl show and he will find a way to unleash them against these hordes of walkers and once the Super Zombies are done with the normal Zombies they blow up and the survivors burn the bodies of the normal Zombies
I think after the utter nonsense of Groundhog Day and literal ghost stories that don’t fit in with the pre-existing canon of the franchise that we’ve been witnessing for over a decade, Tales clearly is NOT canon at all.
@@TWDExplained yeah but even that episode destroyed the canon of the whisperers back story. In the backstory episode on the main show we see Alpha walking with Lydia, BEFORE the mask thing, and at the end of the episode when she kills beta’s Walker mate, they’re shown making the first mask. They’re clearly the first whisperers right there, and it was a good episode. Then in the tales episode, she’s in the woods about to put Lydia down and they’re discovered by an already established mask wearing whisperer group. It doesn’t make sense. Did she then leave that whisperer group, walk into a city without a mask, meet Beta, then go through all that. You can give it a huge benefit of the doubt and explain around it, but then all it does is lesser the story we saw already, but in reality it makes it either not make sense, or not be as good. Tales had literally endless possibilities and could have been so good. & it seems like it’d be so easy to write interesting, well written stories within that world that we all want to see. What they gave us was horrible and a complete waste of a good potential. I want to see Tales episodes from during the fall, or around other countries, and maybe an episode that follows an intern working in the White House over the last days. We could see how it gets to the point where the only option left is to literally bomb your own cities. Imagine the psychological story they could portray showing it get from normal day to day business to having to bomb your own cities in the space of a couple of really hectic days of societal collapse. That’s only one idea. Tales has infinite possible of interesting stories they could give us. To have written what they did is terrible. That ground hog day episode was so bad, and it just does not fit with the canon at all. Same with that ghost story. The others weren’t as bad as those 2, but still it was no where near as good as it should have been, and it seems like it’d be easy to make it good. Every fan has thought up loads of situations that would happen in that world and I bet most are much better than what they put to screen. ;)
Tales only works if you use known characters because no one cares about anyone else. They have so many people know like Nat Okafor Beale Abraham Beta and so many others
Native and exotic animal species seen in the Dead Sector: White Tailed Deer American Black Bear Raccoon bobcat Woodpecker Flamingos American Alligator Pronghorn Antelope Plains Zebra African Giraffe gray wolf snakes Fish Frogs Victoria Crowned Pidgeon Flying Squirrel And other unspecified animals that possibly inhabit the Death Sector
The 14yr timeline was just stupid and the product of bad writers. Unless the projection was based off zombies mutating to become more deadly and smart (which it isnt) then anyone with a functioning brain understands that the most dangerous time of the zombie threat is the initial couple of years. If it was small communities still like hilltop, alexandria and the such then yeah, a million strong horde is a real threat but once you establish a faction as large and powerful as the CRM it makes the zombie threat trivial, the CRM has hundreds of easy methods where it could wipe out tens of thousands of zombies at a time such as constructing a trench and a dam, luring mega hordes into the trench and then opening the dam, the power of the water would outright kill insane amounts of zombies at a time.
Hey bro wouldn’t 14 years count down start from 2025(just a guess). That is Rick’s time in universe at the time of the TOWL? Because Beale just said 14 years which would put Beale estimate around 2039 would be the time of the end of humanity. What is your start year in the timeline. 2010. You have me confused because in TOWL at one point in the show at the current time. All my year dates are guesstimates. Straighten me out, bro.
The show has said contradicting things and the timeline is all over the place - so I can't really help. I did add the 14 to "current" time which should be 2022 (when the Summit happened) but the show I think wants us to believe it is more like 2024ish. The start year is 2010 confirmed. When TOWL said NOW - they probably wanted it to mean right now, which distorts the timeline - but could have meant NOW in the characters timeline. ??
@@TWDExplained I’m asking because you said we made it past the 14 years. I don’t think we have yet. Also, I remember it was said that all the shows except dead city were at the current timeline.
Another little seed was planted. I just saw one those recap videos of all walking dead shows. They did one for World Beyond and Elton the smart kid also had a theory that all humans would be extinct within 15 years. Maybe the big bad will be super strong zombies fresh not made with darts which was shown in World Beyond post credit scene and all our characters kill them to have the living out weigh the dead. Because with no CRM. Human villains like Doma,New Baylon,a lady in France doesn't seem to be realistic big bad’s. Especially Comparing them to a trained military group with advanced weaponry,poisonous gases and helicopters equipped with missiles. Who we all wondered about for years and their presence was felt in more spin-offs then any character or group.
bro, the story is a fucking disaster. I said it years ago when gimple forst joined that getting Gimple on the show was the worst thing to have ever happened to TWD show. Frank’s version was the best and It will always be. at least Frank’s version of TWD didn’t have so many plot holes. Gimples version of TWD sucks so bad. as a zombie fan i am so utterly dissatisfied and disappointed in this show. RIP Franks version of TWD
The first problem is Beale saying that the human race will be extinct in 14 years so kills two cities full of people how does that not have the opposite effect? I get it about the supply shortages, etc. but killing a couple hundred thousand people in campus colony, and Portland doesn’t help humans survive!! Wouldn’t it make more sense to bomb the large herds of walkers?!? The problem with that briefing is that it felt too forced and his reasoning didn’t match the level of destruction to places where people were trying to actually survive. The timeline will always be screwed up when you have this many elements thrown in from random spots like Tales. They were definitely not the best by far.
They don’t realize all they have to due is Nuke them Rick now Onows how to fly planes so he can Just drop a Nuke find and Underground Bunker and survive with his friends and Fmaily for more than 14 years
So Twd ended at 13.5 just about so The ones who live should be 14 years in already I don’t know if the tales episode is 35 years in but I watched it yesterday but since it’s supposedly that much farther in the future hopefully it won’t contradict things that happen in other shows but I’d like to think maybe it is closer to 12-15 years in or but if humans have 14 years left then that should be about 2038 based off the end of twd and towl or 2037 but like it was said they could have even less time without the CRMs plan
Is just a power play using projections and numbers to shape what they want to do... lets be real... having mult bases around the country is better to pull walkers away from mega hordes and kill them one by one... you just need to supplie them and give orders to kill walkers... hell the crm was doing that with the outpost around the country... the 35 years in... that show is not even canon in my book... just a way for people to experiment and shit... dead city is a better case study and there survivors are expanding... that is the impact of a benevolent CRM helping people instead of killing them. as for the fact why people in the 35 year thing are going into the dead zone... maybe is because the super walkers after killing the normal walkers became the apex predator and became the new problem that is more dangerous, the skull hunters are just people trying to develop a way to counter the super walkers like they did before. to me this makes more sense.
I don’t understand if people are this dumb or just play dumb to make content. The 15 year mark wasn’t a deadline for when 100% humans just drop dead .. the way it was explained was that it would be impossible for huge colonies like Philly or the Commonwealth to exist. Smaller 1-2 person groups like this Tales episode would be more possible because finding food for 1-2 person is more believable than continuously finding food for thousands of people. Most colonies will die out after 15 years
perhaps the CRM should've been taking the time to secure swathes of farmland. Like that entire notion is absurd, humanity survived from the brink as hunter gatherers with spears and stones but with modern weaponry and restored electricity in the cities they cant make some farming colonies.
Built up CRM over many seasons over many of the spinoffs... but took them 1-3 episodes to annihiliate the top CRM leade4ship. Feels like a GoF last episodes scr.wover. So messed up. And allthough all these spinoffs is nice in usa. But it KILLS the overseas viewers. Because most non-usa countrues will NOT pick up ALL the spinoffs!. And tyerefor most non-usa viewers WILL loose a lot of important informatiobs between the spinoffs!. So all these spinoffs is KILLING the TW Universe for all non-usa counties. Lobotomizing their own revenues.
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Maybe if the CRM had spent less time messing around with chlorine gas and instead dug a bunch of those giant trenches for the walker hordes to fall into, humanity might make it past 14 years lol
Yea lol like idk why the CRM had to be the bad guys. If they save the world people would happily let CRM be in control
Maybe the CRM dug those ditches. In Tails of The Walking Dead I don’t recall who was said to have dug the ditches if it was even said at all.
Tales said the trench was man made - no details though
@@TWDExplained well of course they were man made.
@@MikeLewis1964 put a bunch of tires and logs down there, a million care tires laying around
For years, I kept thinking, why don't they dig deep trenches around whatever communities they set up and use drawbridges? They still have heavy machinery to help them dig and everything.
Well you gotta think as the months go by those corpses will pile and eventually they'll fill the trench up. You'd have to have people go down in the hole and clear them out every now and then or just burn the trench once in a while but this would stink the place up badly.
It would stink
There’s been points in our real world past where the entire human population was knocked down to around 10,000 globally, and we’ve built that back up to its current levels so humanity will be fine in twd world eventually. After a 100 or so years in, once most walkers have decomposed away, they’ll either find a cure or adapt to living with the walker virus after death.
Yeah that would be true but walkers would never fully go away as long as humans are around unless they find a cure for bites and not turning by then
Ya that's pseudoscience.
@@DeagleGamesTV yeah I know I was saying that as long as humans exist unless they find a cure to the bite so people won’t die from it and from not turning in general walkers wouldn’t go away completely
@@shaquille7414 they need to show herd’s of super fresh walkers that was from the post credit scene in World Beyond. Maybe that’s the end game reunion they got in mind. Have our group fight them. Because now that they easily killed an advanced military equipped with weapons,missiles and poisonous gases so easy. Human villains going forward like Doma’s group, a lady in France etc. realistically shouldn’t be so hard to defeat.
the virus is airborne, after about 100 years there might be reports of families getting ate in the middle of the night due to someone passing in their sleep. walkers might go away but the virus will be around for a while, unless they find a cure. it’s probably gonna be like measles and other viruses we get shots for irl.
The thing is, I wouldn’t take the CRM’s estimate of what will happen to humanity and how much time we have left seriously at all. They based their estimates on an incomplete data set. Beale admitted that they don’t know what other continents have going on since the world fell. So they made that estimate based solely on data about the US and we know that there’s other stuff going on in Europe at the very least.
they literally said they had imbeds all over the world
Also it doesn't take into account what other militaries have as assets. The crm has helicopters, does some military in Arizona have A 10 warthogs?
Lol could you imagine if Dale ever made it out of his last season and seen even a little bit of the future dude woulda had a heart attack
Dale would build a mountain of shit in his pants if he knew about woodbury, the saviours, the whisperers, the CRM etc
Destroying other communities will guarantee humanity won’t survive… Beale’s plan made no sense
I think you missed the point buddy…….
Beale is fool for destroying humanity hope
His logic is that then they have to share less resources such as food and whatever, the crm end up with a lot more resources (hopefully meaning they will survive for longer) if they aren’t sharing it with 2 other communities
His logic doesn’t make sense,the three other community other than the crm survive many years why they would be a drain.killing other humans for resources will deplete humanity survival,Beale was clueless about his intentions and goals.
@@smokerevenant894 it’s explained that the other communities had started to become a drain on crm resources and never became fully self sufficient instead relying more and more on crm resources and help
this is something that’s explained and showed in the spin off world beyond
Not too sure if I watched that episode of Tales. I thought I watched all of them. I am going to seek it out and give it a rewatch. Thanks for the thought provoking video.
The showrunner is wrong. She was just guessing for the interview. I imagine she is the type of person who never watched a single episode and is only doing the job she was paid for.
Definitely a community college d list director.
I think Tales is one of those kind of spin-offs. One off writers and directors that aren't familiar with the source material. So it's hard to say if the stories are even canon?
@@DeagleGamesTVincluding alphas back story?
Alpha dies so how ?
Let's see. Show runner who actually worked on the show
Or
Random RUclipsr commenter who not only didn't bring any evidence to class, but also has established themselves as someone who assumes things
James, I dig your on pointedness, if I can turn that into a word real quick.
I heard Tales ep 4 took place 35 years in too.
So like you, I looked it up..and found more assessments putting it I think about 2 years in, if I recall.
I watched the ep again..got no indicators it takes place so far ahead.
Thanks for putting forth the origin of that.
Imma take it as she was mistaken.
Who knows..that could have been the time they set it for prior to the Extinction Agenda storyline (hopeful storyline).
I'm really curious how they're gonna play out the post-World Beyond "Ragers".
Ok..Daryl Dixon is moving in that direction with the Rager injections. Where one might think the injection will "get worse" and manifest into an airborne amped up version of the virus.
But, Dr. Jenner suggests he's aware of these varieties in France in 2010.
So I don't know how they're gonna play it out.
I just hope they do.
Speaking of Tales, CRM, Beale, and Okafor have room to come back in independent stories.
I already suspect that "I'm sorry I lied" writing that Rick saw when working on getting Michonne out the CRM, is meant to be part of a Tales, or Webisode ep.
But yeah, I hope they just drop that 35 year's in story..
I want that Extinction Agenda to continue with an unknown, spooky, vibe going forward.
2 years in? Like 2 years....after the start?
No way. Who dug the big trench in Georgia? When? How? - the episode may not be canon
Definitely more than 2 years in, 22 perhaps.
@@TWDExplainedI thought ep 4 was more like 10 years in. That’s what it says according to the wiki fandom page.
@@TWDExplained My memory cross-wires like crazy..it was probably 12 years that I heard..and mis-recalled 2 years since 2 years in would be 2012. But I know for a fact, the main stuff I heard said it took place within the already explored Walking Dead timeline.
Ahh the beauty of another theory discussion
as we wait for DD S2! I also read that on reddit & twitter (along with many other theories) - but could not find any article or official word except those quoting the show runner.
The show runner could have meant 2035 - which would still be 25 yrs in
Really interesting video and theory. Idk how “canon” I take any of the tales stuff as though. I’m beginning to think that the crazy Groundhog Day episode was made specifically to let us lore nerds say “well tales may or may not be canon” in the event something contradicts later.
There are so many places that are remote and easily defended. They have helicopters so thet could go to any island and clear it. An aircraft carrier holds 5k people. If the zombies were in huge groups they'd be easier to destroy.
Beale couldn’t have said that around 2036, The (main) show takes place in mid-late 2010. The time skip in season 9 and at the end of 11 brought us to 2022 when the main show ended. Judith was about 9 or 10 there and it was Rick’s third attempt to escape the CRM. I believe he’s there for another 5 or 6 years after that seeing as judith looks to be around 13 or 14 at a minimum and RJ looks to be around 5 or 6. The year would be about 2028-2030. Sorry for being annoying just felt like pointing this out
not sure what point you are making - I did not say Beale said anything in 2036 - he would be long dead by then since he died around 2022-ish
She said only tentative so at the time they may have wanted to go that far ahead. But based in TOWL this episode would have to be within 14 years to not make that pointless, now we have been introduced to a new uncertainty of what will happen.
The dead would be pretty ripe after 14 years, and likely just falling appart.
I don't think zombies would still be around after 35 years.
If it weren’t for your videos, I think I would have lost interest in TWD and fallen out of the loop years ago. Thank you for keeping the fandom alive and great vid!
Wow, thank you! Much appreciated!
How would you find enough people and time to dig a giant trench? Maybe had to make a giant fence or wall first to protect the diggers? How would you get all the dead on the other side?
I think they just threw stuff on the wall and didn’t care if it stuck or not. This wouldn’t be the first time AMC set up something with no actual answer, pay off or resolution. They’ll forget everything in a week.😆
I never figured out why they are called delts?
Id be curious on your theories of where Health ended up going. Did he become part of another group that we’re unaware of? Clearly he’s not with the CRM so where could he be with that card saying PPP on it?
The main theory is that the PPP card belonged to Jadis - she was the connection to CRM.
Heath was taken by Jadis - and traded to CRM - some think as a B - but the show runner said as an A.
(Scott GImple said he'd bring the character back maybe if the actor would do it - but....)
It can also be retconned as it was Heath's card that he dropped when taken by Jadis.
Either way - if he ended up as a B inside CR - it's a big place.
@@TWDExplained ahh ok thank you for the explanation!
Thanks for the video, James. Nobody's talking about this s***
How are there still walkers, not to mention hordes MILLIONS strong, when we’ve seen that walkers do starve, decompose, and overall die off without food? What are these million strong hordes eating that lets them live 15 whole years?
CRM everyone else is drain.. Except that there is no evidence that these places can't be self sufficient.
It could be the trench was used to lead Mass hordes to their deaths. I always thought the best way to kill Mass amounts of walkers is leading them off a cliff or into a giant controlled fire. If this story truly is canon maybe it's only bad where he's staying because he's studying the last of the walkers? Also you mentioning the heads being used as propaganda reminds me of Herschel from the comics using them as a sideshow because they are now scarse
This makes alot of sense and it makes me wonder now that they made the trench and then michonne used Nats purple light chemicals for " localized long lasting burns!!" That's why she asked about it ,
yea the guy litteraly flamed on the girl when she killed a walker
The world outside must still have problems but in the form of plagues natural disasters and war to make them want to move into the dead sector.
So kill everyone and turn them all in zombies? How does this address the issue?
Major General Beale Started off with the best of Intentions and do good in saving Philadelphia, But lost himself along the way!!
I consider the timeline to be undetermined. I know the showrunner did indicate 35 years, but it isn't supported by the episode, itself. (From the dialogue 10-12 years sounds more plausible - but again, that's not confirmed, either)
As for the location, it is set in the Wiregrass region of the United States, specifically near the tri-point of Georgia, Alabama, and Florida.
Tales of the Walking Dead did not make a good impression on me...I watched that ep, but I have no memory of it.
Lol, same
The echalon was half cooked. Our people have killed thousands of walkers and only once someone got sick - Gaibriel in s8
The prison had a sickness outbreak, remember?
@@calebreynolds9183 you'right. but still, you would be expectting most if not all of them to carry some nasty stuff
Echelon
@@МартинЙонков-ж3п The show mostly takes place in summertime, but I bet people are getting sick in the winter as diseases thrive on walkers
I appreciate your videos way more then MovieIdol
Life ahhh , finds a way !
Yeah it does - for real
Very Interesting Video! I haven't watched Tales. I haven't heard anything good about it so I didn't think it was worth the time. It sounds like that is the majority of opinions below. It does make you wonder about what Beale said and how long humanity has. I enjoyed reading the comments below but not really sure what to say on matter. I wish they were more clear on timeline. Timeline is my biggest beef with the creators of this show. It really makes you crazy when you take the time to reason it out and you keep hitting walls.
Are they gonna be an season 2 of the ones who live?
This video and theory has got me ENTRENCHED
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Every time you say "Beale", I'm thinking "Who's Bill?" 😆
Should I add Major General - or do I just say it wrong?
@@TWDExplained Haha! Nah, I know what you're saying because I'm originally from the south. I lived in the Midwest for many years as well so I know how they get confused by even the slightest of southern accents.
wasnt there some drug they were making in Fear TWD from walker brains?
It was the brain stem (the only part of the brain active in walkers which irl just gives you adrenaline and such)
A Judith and RJ story would be great
A new spinoff was announced to answer this. Fear show runners are starting a limited series called "In the trenches". Travis after falling from the chopper has kept his intelligence despite being a walker. He finds a shovel Shane used to kill the walker in season 2 and he instantly has vision of what to do. He just starts digging the thousand mile trench to trap walkers. He is a special variant walker. He kills walkers by taking their heads off and places them in boxes. He can't die from a head injuries. He growls,can't speak and needs to eat like a walker to live just like other walkers. Since he can't talk he can't tell humans not to "fear him". But his walker instincts are to eat humans so he has the energy to dig the trench. He internally struggles within his mind not to eat humans. But he has to to dig what should he do. Die or eat to save humanity despite eating humans. After he tastes blood,the struggle only gets harder since he enjoyed the taste.The scientist realizes this and since he minored in psychology in college he tries to counsel Travis similar to how Dr. Loomis was in the Halloween films. Should be out summer 2025 Ian Goldberg said.
Does the CRM know about the Texas nuke? Or about the communities in the Maggie and Negan show?
yes
Sorry if I'm asking asked questions
There's a nuclear symbol on south Texas on the map of the US on the opening of Those Who Live.
My guess is that Rick will find out about the Super Zombie Experiments from the Daryl show and he will find a way to unleash them against these hordes of walkers and once the Super Zombies are done with the normal Zombies they blow up and the survivors burn the bodies of the normal Zombies
Episode 1 is 2011,épisode 2 is 2010,Episode 3 is 2013,Episode 4 is 2035,épisode 5 is 2025,and Episode 6 id 2020
Wha?
@@BA23-BA23 the timeline
Is 2045
Me when I spread misinformation
I love your theory 😊
I think after the utter nonsense of Groundhog Day and literal ghost stories that don’t fit in with the pre-existing canon of the franchise that we’ve been witnessing for over a decade, Tales clearly is NOT canon at all.
there is that angle as well - but we did get the Alpha episode.
Tales is canon
@@TWDExplained yeah but even that episode destroyed the canon of the whisperers back story.
In the backstory episode on the main show we see Alpha walking with Lydia, BEFORE the mask thing, and at the end of the episode when she kills beta’s Walker mate, they’re shown making the first mask. They’re clearly the first whisperers right there, and it was a good episode.
Then in the tales episode, she’s in the woods about to put Lydia down and they’re discovered by an already established mask wearing whisperer group.
It doesn’t make sense. Did she then leave that whisperer group, walk into a city without a mask, meet Beta, then go through all that.
You can give it a huge benefit of the doubt and explain around it, but then all it does is lesser the story we saw already, but in reality it makes it either not make sense, or not be as good.
Tales had literally endless possibilities and could have been so good.
& it seems like it’d be so easy to write interesting, well written stories within that world that we all want to see.
What they gave us was horrible and a complete waste of a good potential.
I want to see Tales episodes from during the fall, or around other countries, and maybe an episode that follows an intern working in the White House over the last days. We could see how it gets to the point where the only option left is to literally bomb your own cities.
Imagine the psychological story they could portray showing it get from normal day to day business to having to bomb your own cities in the space of a couple of really hectic days of societal collapse.
That’s only one idea.
Tales has infinite possible of interesting stories they could give us.
To have written what they did is terrible.
That ground hog day episode was so bad, and it just does not fit with the canon at all. Same with that ghost story.
The others weren’t as bad as those 2, but still it was no where near as good as it should have been, and it seems like it’d be easy to make it good.
Every fan has thought up loads of situations that would happen in that world and I bet most are much better than what they put to screen.
;)
@@h-dawg969that’s what happens when you have gimple running the franchise and hiring d list community college directors to run giant tv shows.
Tales only works if you use known characters because no one cares about anyone else. They have so many people know like Nat Okafor Beale Abraham Beta and so many others
Native and exotic animal species seen in the Dead Sector:
White Tailed Deer
American Black Bear
Raccoon
bobcat
Woodpecker
Flamingos
American Alligator
Pronghorn Antelope
Plains Zebra
African Giraffe
gray wolf
snakes
Fish
Frogs
Victoria Crowned Pidgeon
Flying Squirrel
And other unspecified animals that possibly inhabit the Death Sector
Is Tales of the walking dead canon?
AMC says it is - but some fans say it is not
The 14yr timeline was just stupid and the product of bad writers. Unless the projection was based off zombies mutating to become more deadly and smart (which it isnt) then anyone with a functioning brain understands that the most dangerous time of the zombie threat is the initial couple of years.
If it was small communities still like hilltop, alexandria and the such then yeah, a million strong horde is a real threat but once you establish a faction as large and powerful as the CRM it makes the zombie threat trivial, the CRM has hundreds of easy methods where it could wipe out tens of thousands of zombies at a time such as constructing a trench and a dam, luring mega hordes into the trench and then opening the dam, the power of the water would outright kill insane amounts of zombies at a time.
Hey bro wouldn’t 14 years count down start from 2025(just a guess). That is Rick’s time in universe at the time of the TOWL? Because Beale just said 14 years which would put Beale estimate around 2039 would be the time of the end of humanity. What is your start year in the timeline. 2010. You have me confused because in TOWL at one point in the show at the current time. All my year dates are guesstimates. Straighten me out, bro.
The show has said contradicting things and the timeline is all over the place - so I can't really help. I did add the 14 to "current" time which should be 2022 (when the Summit happened) but the show I think wants us to believe it is more like 2024ish. The start year is 2010 confirmed.
When TOWL said NOW - they probably wanted it to mean right now, which distorts the timeline - but could have meant NOW in the characters timeline.
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@@TWDExplained I’m asking because you said we made it past the 14 years. I don’t think we have yet. Also, I remember it was said that all the shows except dead city were at the current timeline.
I meant humanity made it past the 14 - after Beale said it would not - I did not mean the timeline itself has made it past that point
Fire content
This show is The Walking Dead
This might be off topic, but rest in peace CJ Snare, lead singer of Firehouse. He touched so many hearts with his music 💜🎵💜🎵💜
Does the CRM know about SpongeBob ripping his pants?
For sure
Another little seed was planted. I just saw one those recap videos of all walking dead shows. They did one for World Beyond and Elton the smart kid also had a theory that all humans would be extinct within 15 years. Maybe the big bad will be super strong zombies fresh not made with darts which was shown in World Beyond post credit scene and all our characters kill them to have the living out weigh the dead. Because with no CRM. Human villains like Doma,New Baylon,a lady in France doesn't seem to be realistic big bad’s. Especially Comparing them to a trained military group with advanced weaponry,poisonous gases and helicopters equipped with missiles. Who we all wondered about for years and their presence was felt in more spin-offs then any character or group.
bro, the story is a fucking disaster. I said it years ago when gimple forst joined that getting Gimple on the show was the worst thing to have ever happened to TWD show. Frank’s version was the best and It will always be. at least Frank’s version of TWD didn’t have so many plot holes. Gimples version of TWD sucks so bad. as a zombie fan i am so utterly dissatisfied and disappointed in this show. RIP Franks version of TWD
The first problem is Beale saying that the human race will be extinct in 14 years so kills two cities full of people how does that not have the opposite effect? I get it about the supply shortages, etc. but killing a couple hundred thousand people in campus colony, and Portland doesn’t help humans survive!! Wouldn’t it make more sense to bomb the large herds of walkers?!? The problem with that briefing is that it felt too forced and his reasoning didn’t match the level of destruction to places where people were trying to actually survive.
The timeline will always be screwed up when you have this many elements thrown in from random spots like Tales. They were definitely not the best by far.
They don’t realize all they have to due is Nuke them Rick now Onows how to fly planes so he can Just drop a Nuke find and Underground Bunker and survive with his friends and Fmaily for more than 14 years
In fear we see that walkers can survive nukes and actually become far more dangerous as they are now also radioactive
This is what happens when you put Scott gimple in charge of the walking dead. Incompetence on every level
Finally the trench!!!!!
I might be alone in this, but I want to zombies to win. Oh well so sad.😂😂😂
They will win everyone turns eventually unless killed with a head Injury
Tales was so random, I put no weight in those non sense episodes. 🧟♀️✌️
The walking dead tv show is 14 years old 😐
So Twd ended at 13.5 just about so The ones who live should be 14 years in already I don’t know if the tales episode is 35 years in but I watched it yesterday but since it’s supposedly that much farther in the future hopefully it won’t contradict things that happen in other shows but I’d like to think maybe it is closer to 12-15 years in or but if humans have 14 years left then that should be about 2038 based off the end of twd and towl or 2037 but like it was said they could have even less time without the CRMs plan
Maybe they led all the walker around d the country with some sound sonar or somthing and then just nuked them
Is just a power play using projections and numbers to shape what they want to do... lets be real... having mult bases around the country is better to pull walkers away from mega hordes and kill them one by one... you just need to supplie them and give orders to kill walkers... hell the crm was doing that with the outpost around the country...
the 35 years in... that show is not even canon in my book... just a way for people to experiment and shit... dead city is a better case study and there survivors are expanding... that is the impact of a benevolent CRM helping people instead of killing them.
as for the fact why people in the 35 year thing are going into the dead zone... maybe is because the super walkers after killing the normal walkers became the apex predator and became the new problem that is more dangerous, the skull hunters are just people trying to develop a way to counter the super walkers like they did before.
to me this makes more sense.
James in Trenchville has been out there for at least fifty years.
No!! It’s that non neurotic “people” (walkers) only have 14 years left
he did not say Walkers have 14 years left - he said people have 14 years left
Don't you mean they predicted the end of the human race....not projected? Sorry...but shit like that bothers me.
I don’t understand if people are this dumb or just play dumb to make content. The 15 year mark wasn’t a deadline for when 100% humans just drop dead .. the way it was explained was that it would be impossible for huge colonies like Philly or the Commonwealth to exist. Smaller 1-2 person groups like this Tales episode would be more possible because finding food for 1-2 person is more believable than continuously finding food for thousands of people. Most colonies will die out after 15 years
he said 'people' have 14 years left on this planet. Sounds like he meant all of humanity to me.
perhaps the CRM should've been taking the time to secure swathes of farmland. Like that entire notion is absurd, humanity survived from the brink as hunter gatherers with spears and stones but with modern weaponry and restored electricity in the cities they cant make some farming colonies.
I really did not like this episode of Tales lol.
Built up CRM over many seasons over many of the spinoffs... but took them 1-3 episodes to annihiliate the top CRM leade4ship.
Feels like a GoF last episodes scr.wover.
So messed up.
And allthough all these spinoffs is nice in usa.
But it KILLS the overseas viewers.
Because most non-usa countrues will NOT pick up ALL the spinoffs!.
And tyerefor most non-usa viewers WILL loose a lot of important informatiobs between the spinoffs!.
So all these spinoffs is KILLING the TW Universe for all non-usa counties.
Lobotomizing their own revenues.
Tales is just garbage.