The Most Underrated Synthesizer (and why it never caught on)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @NintendoSixtyJorts
    @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +18

    Heya! Guy that made the video here!
    I'd like to clarify something I said in the video that seems to be a point of discussion amongst people who were there and in the synth world before I was. My comment on synths being cheap in the 2000s and early 2010s seems like it doesn't quite line up with their experiences, and I'll completely own up to that not being the case as much as it was for me. I grew up in the suburbs of a poor rust-belt city where you really straight-up could get something like a Yamaha CS-10 or a Roland SH-09 for under $300 until around 2011. This was also how a lot of my friends got their synths while I was in high school and in college not too far from where I grew up (the story of my friend getting a JX-3P for $50 is 100% true), I assumed this experience was a lot more universal, at least in the United States in the Midwest.
    I'm reading from a number of you that the heyday of cheap analog synthos was a lot more in the late 90s than in the late 2000s, and I feel like I could've researched this a bit more. I tried to clarify that part of the video by saying it was my experiences, but I seem to be a bit in the minority experience here. That doesn't invalidate said experiences by any means, but it does make me feel bad for being misleading in a video essay about something I like a lot, so I'm sorry about that confusion.
    On an unrelated note, wow this video is blowing up. Thank you all for enjoying it! If you wanna see this synth in action, I also make goofy covers of some of my favorite video game tunes, and I use this synth a LOT. Feel free to check those out if you feel so inclined, and thank you for liking/commenting/subscribing/supporting!
    -N6J

    • @infindebula
      @infindebula 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah synth prices had started going up by around 2000. Analog synths were clearly what people wanted, but almost nobody was making them. So VAs like Viruses, Nords, Supernovas, MS2000s were all you could really get if you wanted a knobby analog-like experience.
      I was intrigued by the little DSI boxes like the Mopho, Tetra and Evolver, but steered clear because of their fiddly interfaces. I didn’t want to be staring at that little LCD, constantly on the hunt for well-buried parameters on 4 simultaneous synth engines.
      I did get some decent deals on hardware in the mid-2000s though. I got my JX3P for $100 Canadian (ridiculously low at the time), Jupiter-6 for $1100 USD, Juno-106 for $500 CAD, and some other cool toys.

    • @philquadra
      @philquadra 11 месяцев назад +3

      Ebay used to be very good in the early 2000s. I found an Emu Emax SE HD for $72 and a Korg Trinity for $70. I still have both of them. When I found a used Moog Slim Phatty there was also a DSI Mopho for very cheap. I bought both and ended up using the Mopho more than the Slim Phatty. I've wanted a Tetra for a long time but never found one inexpensive enough for me. Your excellent video has rekindled my search for a Tetra.

    • @marcospalacios1241
      @marcospalacios1241 10 месяцев назад +1

      i found a micro korg X i love and cherish to this day...!! (Dmx voice) at that time early 2000's i wannuh say 2006 or 5. . . anyhow it was retailing for 750$ or so back then and i happened to find it in the used section where i asked what happend cuz it cost 250$ they said its brand new and the person who bought it said it was blank empty basically a shell...and they tirned it on and found out it was true. . . , so i bought it and did a quick search on how to factory reset it and bam haha everything back up and working great since...☺️ took me like 2 min to reset and find the info on how to saved 500$

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  6 месяцев назад +2

      @@depth78 Hmmm that's a weird one! Sequential's help line would do better than I could, they still offer support on the Tetra!

  • @alexgrunde6682
    @alexgrunde6682 11 месяцев назад +26

    This is what RUclips needs, more deep dives into musicians’ trusted workhorses, fewer hype cycle GAS bait reviews.

  • @straighttalk2069
    @straighttalk2069 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video and the topic is very dear to me.
    The Tetra was my very first analog synth, drove hundreds of miles to collect it and for all the reasons you mentioned, it was my desert island synth for many years, that is until I got my Rev2 16V desktop.
    Now I have two desert island synths.

  • @hobonickel840
    @hobonickel840 10 месяцев назад +2

    My first synth hasn't arrived yet but I needed something to add to my feeble arsenal of which I'm now trading guitars for, the deepmind 12d was purchased used to go with the KS37 and akai force. I'm glad I hadn't seen this vid first I'd of had to put the burton tele on the chopping block to cover the price!! Thanks for the great content

  • @coreyappleby
    @coreyappleby 10 месяцев назад +2

    Evolver has a ton of modulation too, I remember when I got it in 2002 being shocked compared to any other synth at the time. It was the smallest synth I owned too. With careful programming you'd have thought it was polyphonic.

  • @hotel_yugoslavia
    @hotel_yugoslavia 11 месяцев назад +2

    I had no idea I'm going to actually watch this till the end. You're really good with this video making business! Thanks :)

  • @Seanrayamusic
    @Seanrayamusic 10 месяцев назад +1

    Discovered your channel through this video. Great work! You have the personality and authenticity to go far on this medium.

  • @AlexValliMusic
    @AlexValliMusic 11 месяцев назад +3

    Okay the joy face after the foot joke earned my subscription lol. I love the information here as well :)

  • @svenmify
    @svenmify 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve had a Mopho since forever. Never really used it much because it’s too menudivey. Also I didn’t know much about synthesis at the time, so I didn’t even know what parameters I was looking for. Might have to check it out again

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 2 месяца назад +2

    Gawd, I wish I’d been into synths around 2004 and got some second hand deals. Instead I was still being taught classical-style sax, so I viewed every electronic keyboard as interchangeable. Until around… 2009, 2010, when the super cheap analogue had already dried-up. I mean, less-so than today, but the price was higher and you needed know-how on fixing stuff. And I was only juuust learning electrical in school at the time (wouldn’t be until 2012 I was comfortable soldering at home).
    So I just bought a microKORG. Which… was so bad as a learning tool. Though I liked tweaking it, and running my guitar through its vocoder with the amp latched open. (LFO for vibrato/tremolo etc, plenty of distortion and comb filtering type stuff going on.)
    Just like you said about your XL, I didn’t really know what I was doing until I tried something else one-knob-per-function. I can use it more competently now, but also like… I don’t have much reason to use it very often compared to my big synth now. It’s mostly a very-occasional couch/bed noodler when I want “traditional” synth sounds rather than FM (or just using acoustic guitar.)
    I’ve honestly been curious about the Mopho/Tetra for ages, in the way that analogue mono synths can sound a bit gnarlier than my poly synths. But also, in terms of slightly pitch-unstable single-voice sounds with extreme distortion potentials and the ability to cut through a mix… I’ve always had my sax. So it’s never been a serious consideration so far.

  • @jonathanchang7783
    @jonathanchang7783 11 месяцев назад +1

    You made this my next synth, im excited to learn to use this awesome thing!! Thank you for putting this on my radar and the video together, its awesome to learn what equipment you're using and why you are! Keep on rocking man lml

  • @thepeterone
    @thepeterone 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, I came here for cool electronic music covers, but now I'm actually learning something. What a deal! Cool video. I might have to check that thing out. You made a really good point when you said "c'maaaaaan".

  • @claegason2521
    @claegason2521 11 месяцев назад +1

    I knew there was a reason I wanted one of these back in the day. Your enthusiasm is adorable and infectious, and your depth of knowledge is impressive. That’s an instant subscribe from me.

  • @aseomg
    @aseomg 10 месяцев назад +1

    Whoop, another RUclips gold video! luved it. 😎

  • @DarkSideofSynth
    @DarkSideofSynth 11 месяцев назад +5

    There exists a Stereoping controller for this synth, to avoid much menu diving.

    • @leftovernoise
      @leftovernoise 11 месяцев назад

      While that's super cool. It also costs damn near as much as the synth itself

    • @jjrtech7806
      @jjrtech7806 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@leftovernoiseYeah, stereoping know a thing or two about price gorging

  • @orphyte
    @orphyte 10 месяцев назад +1

    Need more videos in this series! I love this and the sample pad video. More more more!

  • @blinson1697
    @blinson1697 10 месяцев назад +1

    I bought one from Reverb for $700 right after watching this. (I have been eying TETR4 for a while) but this Reverb listing came with a STEREOOPING THET4 Synth controller, thrown in for "for free.

  • @DaveDaves
    @DaveDaves 11 месяцев назад +1

    Does the Tetra have sub-oscs? I remember w the Mopho vs the others, one Sub-Osc per analog DCO (as well as feedback) was the one feature not consistent across the Prophet 08 / Mopho / Tetra range. Fantastic video, one thing you could've recognized is that there's two types of analog oscillators, VCOs & DCOs. Both are entirely analog in sonic signal path ofc, but you probably know some people consider the DCOs inferior. I never used to, but I've only had DCO analog synths until I just got the K2 and now I don't know what to think. Really, really wish my JDxA had 4 outs.

  • @ClifBratcher
    @ClifBratcher 10 месяцев назад +3

    Mopho X4 is a four voice Mopho. Tetra is effectively four Mophos. Timbrality is not quite the same as polyphony.

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  10 месяцев назад +2

      All of this is true!
      To clarify a bit: The Tetra can be four-voice polyphonic AND be four different Mophos in one box. Multi Mode and Combo Mode are options.

    • @Farold_Haltermeyer
      @Farold_Haltermeyer Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@NintendoSixtyJorts did they ditch any other features from it when it went with the Mopho X4?

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  Месяц назад +1

      @@Farold_Haltermeyer not sure! I've wanted an x4 forever but that's one of the few things I know for certain.

    • @Farold_Haltermeyer
      @Farold_Haltermeyer Месяц назад +1

      ​@@NintendoSixtyJortsno worries...ahunting I shall go :) Really wonderful video BTW, almost had my punching the air with excitement! I love the Tetra more and more, and it does seem to be slipping further and further into obscurity sadly...so I did not go and get another one yesterday. Nope. I'm not hoarding them at all 😊

  • @mimikova390
    @mimikova390 11 месяцев назад +3

    I do not have the tetra, but one of my favorite synths is the Ensoniq ESQ1. It was my first synth(a hand me down from my papa). It is an 8 voice digital synth with the amazing curtis filter. If you can get your hands in one i highly recommend. Nice video. the curtis filter my altime favorite filter. it was used in the P5 as well and Doepfer used it in one of their filters. I do not think it is made anymore.

  • @howardanderson3061
    @howardanderson3061 7 месяцев назад +1

    Really fun video! Very entertaining and informative. I have a Mopho keyboard and the tetra and hooked them up together….big sound. I was over my head as far as tweaking sounds but DSI are awesome sound great

  • @hakonanthonsen3543
    @hakonanthonsen3543 11 месяцев назад +2

    I traded mine for an elektron a4, but I will not be surprised if I buy a new one after this video.

  • @ritofuturito
    @ritofuturito 11 месяцев назад +2

    Very entertaining video!

  • @atomjones2140
    @atomjones2140 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hey, ...C'moooooon!

  • @-processdrone-
    @-processdrone- 11 месяцев назад +5

    Mildly interested by the title , stayed all the way to the end for the passionate presentation style. Keep being you, you're awesome.

  • @jesseeatsbrains
    @jesseeatsbrains 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dude this synthesizer is definitely something I will be picking up! Thankyou for your 1000’s of hours of knowledge for this recommendation. I work at guitar center and I think this will be my first purchase

  • @marvinkmooneyoz
    @marvinkmooneyoz 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’d love if they re-made it with the new in house filters and vco’s

  • @nigelrogers8690
    @nigelrogers8690 11 месяцев назад +1

    Superb insane ramble, keep up the great work 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @LAZ-org
    @LAZ-org 11 месяцев назад +2

    Slapping that 'subscribe' button to support the lovechild of Thulsa Doom and Jemaine Clement.

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +2

      >gets up
      >goes to the whiteboard
      >"Number of days since I've been compared to Jemaine Clement"
      >erase number
      >write 0

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper 11 месяцев назад +2

    My first synth was also a Microkorg XL. It taught me that I really dislike menu diving. Eventually I upgraded to a Sequential Pro 3, and I'm really happy with it. Dave Smith made amazing instruments.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 месяца назад

      Almost same, original microKORG for me but even that shallow of a menu I really don’t like. One knob per function (or nearly) on subtractive synthesis i’d important for me. Yk, I can tolerate switching between layers for multitimbrality, or if there’s a ridiculous amount of LFOs, but that’s about it.
      Ironically I _do_ like FM synthesis, but only with a very good UI. No way I’m putting up with a single data entry slider, or going operator to operator for the simplest settings. I do tolerate menus for all the envelopes, and modulation routings though. FM just has way too many of those.

  • @TonyVorell
    @TonyVorell 11 месяцев назад +4

    Tetra means four in Greek. Like four polyphonic voices
    If you need me, I’ll be at the library

  • @ArminDressler
    @ArminDressler 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bought one after seeing this video and do not regret. This little box sounds great. I only wish it had more voices… I now have two four-voice analogs, Elektron Analog Four and Tetra. My next Analog should now be something with at least eight, better twelve or sixteen voices.

  • @BatteryCoverMissing
    @BatteryCoverMissing 11 месяцев назад +2

    I only watch first half of this but this is a great review because people forget how important space and presets are when playing live.

  • @stillphil
    @stillphil 9 месяцев назад +1

    So…would TWO TETRA make a desktop 08?

  • @robbrobb5543
    @robbrobb5543 11 месяцев назад +2

    DSI was never fully fleshed out so to speak. None of the products felt truly complete specifically the programming. Tempest was a disaster, but Tetra and the Evolver are extremely unique and well worth giving some time to if your into these kinda synth boxes.

  • @chrisdigiuseppe7717
    @chrisdigiuseppe7717 8 месяцев назад +1

    Really cool video man. I have the Mopho Keyboard, it sounds so cool. I'd love to get a Tetra at some point so I can polychain to 5 voices.

  • @Noidal77
    @Noidal77 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great Video! I've had the Dave Smith Evolver for years. I love it and use it all the time. You've got me curious about checking out the Tetra. I like that it has 4 voices. Plus it sounds great. Thank you!

    • @christianvictor827
      @christianvictor827 11 месяцев назад +1

      The Poly Evolver is what got me back into hardware synths. Couldn't afford one obviously but - after getting an also insanely underappreciated Kurzweil PC3LE6 I substituted it with a Tetra, which is very very similar sans the digital oscillators. Never regretted it. Still want an Evolver tho. 😄

  • @levia2805
    @levia2805 11 месяцев назад +29

    bih dont raise the reverb prices

    • @MisterRorschach90
      @MisterRorschach90 11 месяцев назад +2

      Lol I don’t say this to be mean but he doesn’t have enough subscribers to effect reverb prices.

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +9

      Not with THAT attitude I don't, mister.@@MisterRorschach90

    • @theroyalcrane
      @theroyalcrane 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@MisterRorschach90 if it's searchable on RUclips the price goes up. Everyone knows how to search before setting a price even thrift stores do that now.

    • @coopedup2
      @coopedup2 11 месяцев назад +2

      Too late

    • @idletimerap
      @idletimerap 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@theroyalcrane goddamm vultures. I can't buy anything fun due to resalers. Idk if Value Village is a national chain or just a local thing but if it's the only thrift store locally that stocks cassette tapes and I have to show up 30 minutes before opening in order to have access to LITERALLY ANYTHING. By the time the ebay hounds pick it over I'm left with Christmas albums

  • @coyotegeek
    @coyotegeek 11 месяцев назад +1

    I share your love for the Tetra. I've bought and sold a lot of synths since I got my Tetra, but it has earned a lasting place in my setup. It sounds great, it works, it sits in a mix like few other things, and I got it for about $400. You can't do that last bit anymore, but it's still a pretty good value.

  • @WhizPill
    @WhizPill 11 месяцев назад +1

    You have my attention, subbed

  • @christianvictor827
    @christianvictor827 11 месяцев назад +13

    FINALLY! Someone who is as enthusiastic about the Tetra as I am.
    Yes, that thing is absolutely INSANE. It's the swiss army knife of synthesizers. A swiss army knife that also has a jackhammer, a radar and a coffee maker in it.

  • @CyberCreeper22
    @CyberCreeper22 11 месяцев назад +2

    as much as I think this synth is underrated, but its also underrated how much potential you pull out of everything you touch

  • @sigrice
    @sigrice 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fucking awesome! Subscribed with notifications on

  • @eidetecker
    @eidetecker 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, great info; appreciate it. Peace.

  • @cardboardwalk
    @cardboardwalk 11 месяцев назад +2

    Your a natural at hosting!

  • @LordPapula
    @LordPapula 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wholeheartedly agree. It’s a synth seemingly made exactly for me.

  • @keykiyox
    @keykiyox 11 месяцев назад +1

    Glad that I bought it and still keep it in front of me. You made me wanting to connect it to my pc.

    • @keykiyox
      @keykiyox 11 месяцев назад

      And I actually did it and enjoy Tetra now…… noticed SubOsc do render most of the patches so deep.

  • @TimJacksonOriginal
    @TimJacksonOriginal 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yeah, so DCOs. They're a synth nerd's greatest friend if they get out and gig. VCOs are lovely and all that, but you just can't rely on a synth that takes 45 minutes to warm up in order to stay in tune when you have a gig to play, particularly one that then proceeds to go wildly out of tune just because people started bouncing around getting sweaty and the relative humidity of the venue just went off the charts. That's why the Juno still rules all these years later - it's rock solid and never drifts - and why so many bedroom synth guys love their (and clones), because they don't need to worry about the drift. One of my favourite synths is the Wasp, and that thing can just get totally insane and give some really random squelchy things that you didn't expect, but it's still powered by DCOs.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 месяца назад

      Isn’t the Wasp straight-up DDS just like the OSCar?

    • @TimJacksonOriginal
      @TimJacksonOriginal 2 месяца назад

      ​@@kaitlyn__L I think the Wasp was straight up DCOs. The OSCar was a wholly different and way more complex beast. Chris Hugget also worked with Novation on a couple of their synths - notably the BassStation (similar filter design to the Wasp) and I've heard he worked on the Peak too.

  • @alexwest909
    @alexwest909 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have 3 of these. Yes, I also have a mopho desktop, 2x mopho synth, 2x mopho X4 and a mopho SE (all same family), but the Tetra is the one I love, particularly for dawless, can get several on a tiny desk and just get so many mono voices.

    • @alexwest909
      @alexwest909 11 месяцев назад +1

      …oh, and I got a much maligned Akai Timbrewolf recently, which is lots of fun, cost me half what a tetra costs, but it does a fraction of what Tetra can do, and the filter is terrible. It’s still cool though.

    • @fortheloveofnoise
      @fortheloveofnoise 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexwest909 Timbers should be $150 free shipping, more than that is too much....but their circuits can take abuse, I turned one into a semi modular synth with 44 patch points built into the backside of the case....I wanna do it again, but this time built into like a wooden case or something.

    • @fortheloveofnoise
      @fortheloveofnoise 11 месяцев назад

      You need synth rehab

    • @alexwest909
      @alexwest909 11 месяцев назад

      @@fortheloveofnoise Each synth voice has its own output to run through external processors. It makes an excellent raw analogue waveform generator. Plus the scratch onboard sequencer is basically an Arturia key step pro from before the key step pro. See, you got one and you want another one. It has a great feature set and possibilities despite having glaring shortcomings. People do notice so demand goes up, prices go up.

    • @claegason2521
      @claegason2521 11 месяцев назад

      @@fortheloveofnoisethat sounds cool as heck, do you have any video or audio of it up online anywhere?

  • @CarpeCerebrum
    @CarpeCerebrum 11 месяцев назад +1

    youtube's recommended wins again
    inb4 1k subZ, awesome video mate im here for morrrrrre

  • @Fl4ppers
    @Fl4ppers 11 месяцев назад +3

    4 separate,independent voices is what we old-boys used to call "multimbrality". Multitimbral synths tended to be digital or romplers back in the day. I find it odd how modern synths dont do this. All that processing power and just one synth.
    I tried to get the original Mopho and Tetra back when they were being discontinued as they were selling for £150 each here for B stock. I couldnt quite raise the money in time back then.
    The disadvantages of analogue becoming a nostalgic thing today happened that way with gaming sound chips and chiptunes becoming a thing.
    DCOs were seen as like autotune for ocillators.
    BTW - as a photographer some years ago I have a tip for the reflection on your glasses. Use a polarising filter over your lens. (even if you have to bluetak it in place).

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for the camera tip! I know super little about filming (I've been studying here and there but it's really hard!) and this is something I've been trying to figure out a solution to without knowing any terms!

    • @Fl4ppers
      @Fl4ppers 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@NintendoSixtyJorts great thing about youtube is there is a tutorial for everything. I tend to just keep mashing the keys until I find a solution.

  • @tron944
    @tron944 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have a Mopho X4 keyboard, I wished it had those individual outputs. But I added a Mopho desktop as an extra voice. I hope I can find a Tetra at the right price.

  • @alvisemarino478
    @alvisemarino478 10 месяцев назад +1

    Big Tetra fan here. I use mine mostly in multi mode with a Digitakt sequencing each voice individually via MIDI tracks. Programming it is a pain, and all programmer softwares I have tried (sound tower and patchbase) do not really work in multi mode. The fix i have found is to program a patch in voice mode, copy/paste ti an individual voice jn combo mode and then turn on multi mode. any other ideas? thanks!

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  10 месяцев назад

      That's more or less how I do it to avoid the corruption problem. I make my patches out of multi and combo mode and just make sure I'm making monophonic patches.

  • @sxm5138
    @sxm5138 10 месяцев назад +1

    Never heard of this synth!

  • @magickmarck
    @magickmarck 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ever tried an Alesis Micron? They are deceptively simple looking but with a deep modulation matrix as well. Fun, fun synth. I'm not suggesting its anywhere near the Tetra, but if you see one for cheap you might like it.

    • @magickmarck
      @magickmarck 11 месяцев назад +2

      By the way, and you know this (obviously) the Tetra is insane! You could have a whole band playing this thing!

    • @magickmarck
      @magickmarck 11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh you did. :)

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +3

      I've played with a few Microns, they're fun! Never owned one or really had the need to but I get tempted when they pop up on local postings

  • @simoningate2056
    @simoningate2056 11 месяцев назад +1

    That was great - Dave Smith is my synth hero.

  • @noi1989
    @noi1989 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was a fun video. I have a mopho x4 and a tetra. I poly chain them for 8 voices. I much prefer programming with the x4 because it has so many more knobs on it for basic patch parameters.
    This DCO stuff - the oscillators are still ANALOG. I don’t get why this is even an issue. They have all the characteristics of an analog oscillator, just reset with a digital clock so they are bang on tuning wise. There is zero aliasing or other artifacts because they are ANALOG. So Dave added a “slop” control to make them purposely drift a bit in tune to be more like the VCOs of old… because that is the chief difference between VCOs and DCOs in this case.
    For context, the old Roland Junos are nowadays coveted for their vintage sound, and they have DCOs… and zero drift… only the chorus effect to fatten them up.. but I digress.
    I really think the original mophos and tetras were panned because of the menu diving. The prophets at the time were great with all of the knobs for manipulating your patch, but like what has been said before, this was the beginning of the analog hardware renaissance, and virtual analogs and VSTs still had a strong foothold, so it was all a hard sell, no matter how it was packaged. Plus it wasn’t “real vintage”, so immediately met with suspicion.
    Also mopho is arguably a stupid name for any piece of gear. Sounds like a name for a guitar stomp box and not a synth, and without a keyboard attached that’s kinda what these boxes look like. Another Line6 type guitar doodad if you didn’t know any better browsing the music shop.
    I like how you mention chip tunes. The potential is massive. Analog oscillators, 4 LFOs with different waveshapes, sequencers etc etc.. Huge. You have to dig a little with these boxes, but you are rewarded handsomely for it.

  • @dr_orient4782
    @dr_orient4782 11 месяцев назад +1

    ...I'm VERY old school - I learned electronic music on analog machines and TAPE. As a proud owner of a Prophet 600, I'd mention that it has a claim as the first hybrid (analog/digital) synthesizer, although there are a number of other candidates ;-) ...

  • @fortheloveofnoise
    @fortheloveofnoise 5 месяцев назад +1

    Help me....I bought a second Mopho x4 to poly chain them....and I have a desktop I won in a giveaway...so now I will have a Mopho 9.....as it should have been from the beginning....gotta flex that extra voice over the Prophet 08, am I right?
    P.S. It was literally cheaper than any Tetra on the market....I was gonna try for a Tetra....but now I gotta stack some big ol' Mophos in this bih....ok I will stop.

  • @jasperlawson6315
    @jasperlawson6315 8 месяцев назад +1

    First.
    I'm pretty sure you can backup your patches on your computer.
    Second.
    The Mopho X4 is also an absolute beast of a synth. I run two polychained for 8 voices .. the modulation and sequencing is amazing and the interface is almost knob per function.. still a little menu diving, but given it's capabilities that's unavoidable... Big and heavy though..... I got one for 500$. Also pretty under rated.

  • @klstay
    @klstay 11 месяцев назад +4

    It is too bad they did not make a keyboard version of this with a more accessible interface though the Mopho x4 is close while being monotimbral. To me the Poly Evolver (though MUCH more expensive especially these days) remains the pinnacle voice architecture Dave ever designed. I am surprised no one has "cloned" it to this day though Super Gemini has a lot of those benefits.

  • @mannygrossman
    @mannygrossman 11 месяцев назад +4

    Funny, I've been collecting synths since 1989 and I would never say that the mid 2000's were a time to buy cheap analog. We were complaining back then about how the prices were running up. Compared to today they might have been "cheaper" but inflation has killed a lot of the value of our dollar, which also accounts for the insane prices of today. The heydey for cheap analog was in that sweet spot period of 1988-1996 before The Beastie Boys started making these old synths popular again. To me the analog resurgence started in 2001 or so with some great modules being made like the FutureRetro 777 and the Sherman Filterbank.

  • @davidwoods1337
    @davidwoods1337 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but if you wondered why there was a lot of "not one not two but four" bits in the script ... it's because "Tetra" means Four. As in a tetrahedron is a 3d solid with four faces. It's the theme of the whole device!

  • @mike.thomas
    @mike.thomas 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was a great and very entertaining overview of the Tetra. I spent the day attempting to program, from the front panel, a completely different and unabashedly digital synth: the Emu Proteus 2000. My guess is it’s a similar experience to the programming Tetra. My arm hurts 😅.
    I wish you much success with your channel!

  • @michaellloyd6871
    @michaellloyd6871 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sub number 888. yer a legend. Keep it up.

  • @michaeltamodlin137
    @michaeltamodlin137 7 месяцев назад +1

    I dream about to get one and use it with my digitakt mk1 , I think it will be super combo. Can't wait uh..

  • @fireflocs
    @fireflocs 11 месяцев назад +5

    1:20
    Funfact: I once had somebody laugh in my face for pronouncing it 'middy' instead of 'em eye dee eye'. It's really very vindicating to hear someone who knows what they're talking about with digital music pronounce it the same way.

    • @fireflocs
      @fireflocs 11 месяцев назад +2

      But you don't want to hear that. You want to hear that I like the video (I do!) and that I have requests (I do!)!
      Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom - Fields AND Maze Cave AND Aztec Temple AND Volcano AND Shooter AND Falls AND Castle AND Boss Snake
      Socket / Time Dominator 1st - High-Speed Area AND Treasure Castle AND Olein Cavern AND Antiquity AND Future AND Lava Special Stage
      Karnov's Revenge / Fighter's History Dynamite - Theme of Karnov
      Tekken 2 - All Things Are In Flux and Nothing Is Permanent AND Ring A Bell AND Paul's Miracle Deathfist AND Hit Out AND Silent Assasin
      Metal Slug 2/X - Livin' on the Deck AND Back to the China AND Kiss in the Dark
      The Outfoxies - The Outfoxies AND Counterblow AND City of Blue AND Enjoy Life
      Oh No! (PS1) - Oh No! AND Riding the XTC AND Walking in the Zoo AND Can U Groove Like I Do? AND Under the Cover of Darkness
      Astra Superstars - Requiem for the End of the Universe AND Present from the Country of Ice AND The Town of Fog Has a Hazardous Smell AND Memory of a Sleepy Forest AND Wandering Lightning Speed AND Angel Star
      Balloon Kid - Stage 1 AND Ending
      Mega Man ZX - Wonder Panorama
      The B-52s - Theme for a Nude Beach
      Yes, this one includes a non-video game song. Shock and horror, I know. I can't help it; it's one of my absolute favorite songs.

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +3

      If you ever see who laughed in your face, tell them I said they're a big nerd and that MIDI is pronounced exactly how you feel in your heart.
      And also "Middy".
      And also this list request looks amazing, don't wanna give anything away but I'm looking at the next buncha covers and Tekken may or may not be on the list ;)
      Thank you as always for the love and support!

    • @fireflocs
      @fireflocs 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@NintendoSixtyJorts
      You're too nice, you know that?
      But yeah, this one's kind of loaded up with bangers. Kind of been workin on it a while >.>

    • @magickmarck
      @magickmarck 11 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah no one calls it em eye dee eye. That's hilarious. Find that person and laugh in THEIR face!

    • @roxyamused
      @roxyamused 11 месяцев назад +3

      what? that's on them cause I haven't ever heard of anyone saying the letters. It's an acronym for a reason.

  • @Matthewsavant
    @Matthewsavant 11 месяцев назад +2

    I wouldn’t say the Tetra “didn’t catch on” it was a very popular synth when it came out (the whole line was the Mopho and mopho keyboard) people bought them as expanders too. At the time everyone was talking about it and I saw them in a lot of set ups. The one thing that line suffered from in my opinion is that the oscillators were too stable resulting in too sterile of a sound were as most people were craving the more unstable sounds of vintage analog. Still the whole line isn’t bad definitely very versatile in terms of options and modulation

  • @_B.C_
    @_B.C_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love mine. I use it exclusively for unison bass lines in my setup.
    Wanna unlock some extra fun for it in a live setup, pair it with a bastl instruments Bestie Stereo mixer.

  • @claegason2521
    @claegason2521 11 месяцев назад +1

    That internal feedback path you mention towards the end - is there any chance that could be tapped by a hardware mod to allow for external inputs?

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not sure, that'd be amazing but I am by no means an engineer!

  • @noisetheorem
    @noisetheorem 11 месяцев назад +2

    And don’t forget midi chain. You can put two on your desk and have 8 voices

  • @john-nilsen
    @john-nilsen 11 месяцев назад +1

    I used to own a Tetra, man that thing sounds amazing.

  • @triplebeam23
    @triplebeam23 11 месяцев назад +1

    What did these retail for ? .. and hi new subscriber here

  • @jjdekay6969
    @jjdekay6969 11 месяцев назад +1

    I clicked on this video because I have been playing with synths since 1979 and I have a warped sense of accomplishment and a low threshold to BS . I watched this video in 2? minutes @1.25 speed and I could of gonged it at any moment. The event annoyed both of my dogs, my wife, and all of the elephants in the room...........so of course,........ I freakin loved it and subscribed.

  • @BatteryCoverMissing
    @BatteryCoverMissing 11 месяцев назад +1

    Kinda deal-breaker for me on the firmware corrupting patches discussed at 25mins. Everything I have has some bug like this.

    • @christianvictor827
      @christianvictor827 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is a new firmware that has been beta for a couple of years now. I doubt it will ever be final but it solves a LOT of the Tetra's problems.

  • @BillVincent
    @BillVincent 11 месяцев назад +1

    I had one, and it was interesting, but it was sterile. Cold is another word for it, IMO. It didn't sit well in any mixes for me. Plus if I remember correctly it had polyphony issues too. I also remember sometimes the electronics would be wonky and it would lock up or do strange things. I never felt like it was super solid and reliable. I just remember overall it being so harsh in tone compared to all my other synths that it just didn't find a good home with me. I think I ended up returning it and getting a Moog Sub Phatty. Not the same type of synth for lots of reasons, but a better fit for me than the Tetra.

  • @dinosauria55
    @dinosauria55 10 месяцев назад +1

    The X4 and the Tetra were a great pair.

  • @BatteryCoverMissing
    @BatteryCoverMissing 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think you could easily hack it to add your own filter inputs.

  • @Gu1tar1st
    @Gu1tar1st 11 месяцев назад +1

    The one thing missing from the Hydrasynth Deluxe is a sequencer. 5 LFOs, 5 Envelopes, you can modulate almost everything on it. The Tetra reminds me of the Hydrasynth. I really wish they brought a Hydrasynth version out with a sequencer. Then it would be the GOAT of synthesisers.

    • @chrisstaubyn
      @chrisstaubyn 11 месяцев назад

      The LFOs in the Hydrasynth can function as sequencers.

    • @Gu1tar1st
      @Gu1tar1st 11 месяцев назад

      @@chrisstaubyn I love the 64 steps you get, but it’s so different from something like the Elektron sequencers, and their workflow.

  • @SteveMeiers
    @SteveMeiers 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is he always this enthusiastic?
    I like when that happens!

  • @Death_By_Media
    @Death_By_Media 11 месяцев назад +1

    Had one when they where new for a couple years , It did sound very good , but the menu diving interface and to a larger degree the multi part and lfo bugs made me get rid of it. Cheers !

  • @inthefade
    @inthefade 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've always wanted the T4tra.

  • @roxyamused
    @roxyamused 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have one. I find it frustrating because of how the assignable parameter knobs are designed to use. It's painstaking and then the parameters aren't saved as is, so accessing parameters (like the mod matrix, HADSR, LFOs) in real time is almost useless accept the filter or universally controlled AR- meh. I think it'd be better if they moved it by page like blofelds or the earliest DSI like the evolver and poly-evolver (which those prices on those are wild $4-5K for the poly-evolver!), instead of each knob being painstakingly assigned through this massive synth with tons of parameters that doesn't save in place. I managed to get a prophet 08 back in 2017, which made patch building easier. However, I ended up selling my prophet 08 despite the nearly knob per function and modulation capacities, cause I just amn't blown away by the filter and oscillators- which the Tetra already has and it felt redundant for something I was underwhelmed by. I haven't used multi-mode or the 4 outs. Selling the 08 got me enough money for a prophet 6, and I will always love that baby. She is gorgeous and smooth. Sadly, there really isn't that great of synergy with the Tetra.
    I understand why someone would like the tetra a lot though.
    Edit: I think I might be wrong about assigning parameters in a patch, though I've found it frustrating regardless.

    • @shoontz
      @shoontz 11 месяцев назад +1

      If you're in Toronto, give me a shout. I'll take it off your hands. 🙂

  • @jaibhimadevi5805
    @jaibhimadevi5805 11 месяцев назад +2

    ...now I have to go watch your Katamari cover, dang it. As to the synth world in the late 90s-early 2000s, in my spotty memory? Honestly, IMHO the design choices put a lot of people off... to older "serious musicians" used to metal and wood (This Is Serious Equipment-style), the profusion of often-less-than-solid-build-quality plastic boxes with "bold colors" etc. just smelled cheap, while the younger crowd couldn't often cough up the $$ for the latest digital amazeballs with 8 knobs and a small LCD screen, even if we understood what was under the hood better. I always despised it when some staid corporation would try "Greetings, fellow kids!"-marketing nonsense, but now it's just quaintly, nostalgically cringe. Welp, you keep doing you, I'm going back to getting some weird freeware drone machines and effects to a releasable state ;)

    • @fireflocs
      @fireflocs 11 месяцев назад +1

      watch his covers, they're really good

  • @johnthecloud
    @johnthecloud 11 месяцев назад +1

    I loved it so much that I bought 2!

  • @pco2004
    @pco2004 4 месяца назад +1

    Dude you totally. hooked me into dusting off my tetra. Cmon! haha

  • @reedsutter8485
    @reedsutter8485 11 месяцев назад +3

    I was there buying and playing old analog synths in the early 2000’s. I feel like your explanation is a few years off. In the middle 90’s, my big brother bought an Oberheim 2 voice and a Moog Opus for $50 each. By 1999, I scoured the country and the best deal I ever managed was a Yamaha CS20m for $280. By 2005, those deals were done forever. We were spending $400 for a used MS2000 or $800 for a used Nord Lead because all the true classic analogs were already owned by people who’d rediscovered them in the late 90’s.
    And don’t forget, inflation is real. I was working for about $12 an hour back then.
    By the early 2000’s, a vintage analog required a serious investment for any amateur musician. It’s way easier for today’s kids who can buy a brand new, reliable, true analog for today’s prices.

    • @roxyamused
      @roxyamused 11 месяцев назад +2

      that was my experience. You could still get Junos for like $500 or so, but massive deals were gone...

    • @mannygrossman
      @mannygrossman 11 месяцев назад +2

      Agree. 50 years old. My experiences are exactly the same as yours. The analog resurgence/inflated prices started in the late 90's.

  • @DJ_Tabula_Rasa
    @DJ_Tabula_Rasa 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well I WAS looking for a Tetra for my Mopho x4.......
    Checks reverb prices 😭

  • @EchoKraft
    @EchoKraft 11 месяцев назад +1

    I met Dave Smith at the NAMM show in 2019 at the Dave Smith instrument booth really nice guy took a couple of pictures with him. Chatted with him for a while clearly a gentleman he surely will be missed and is missed great video by the way.

  • @scronx
    @scronx 11 месяцев назад +1

    You're FUN and interesting!

  • @paxson2000
    @paxson2000 11 месяцев назад +1

    Subbed because the Deerhoof poster

  • @larslevinberget9558
    @larslevinberget9558 10 месяцев назад +1

    New to me!

  • @symbiat0
    @symbiat0 11 месяцев назад +1

    The form factor and workflow kinda remind me of the Micromonsta

  • @fortheloveofnoise
    @fortheloveofnoise 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have its even more unloved cousin, the Mopho x4.....I had to buy it because it was serial #69.....don't judge me.

  • @cgoldhaber
    @cgoldhaber 11 месяцев назад +3

    You make me want to learn all sorts of things about synth! If you'd be keen on making a video or two (or 10) on the history of synth, well, I'd certainly watch it with pleasure

  • @bloodyhell302
    @bloodyhell302 11 месяцев назад +1

    Please!!! Make a full song of "We love microprocessors" and offer a free version to download. Please?

    • @NintendoSixtyJorts
      @NintendoSixtyJorts  11 месяцев назад +1

      Not to plug it too hard buuuuuuut the full-length version (all 16 glorious seconds) is up on my Patreon! Maybe I'll release a PWYW album of all the background music I make for these someday!

    • @bloodyhell302
      @bloodyhell302 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@NintendoSixtyJorts Hmm it's not much but it'll do til the 5 minute version comes out.

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Pro 2 is right up there though…

  • @PerryCodes
    @PerryCodes 11 месяцев назад +1

    Please don't Preeface anything again, prefacing is good enough. Oh - and from my perspective, the reason why synths like this never caught on was the endless encoder/menu-diving that people didn't like. For analog synths, I prefer as close to knob-per-function as possible. When these DSI's were being released, I was still happy with my Waldorf Q and Yamaha AN1x VA's.

  • @KurtLorenz
    @KurtLorenz 11 месяцев назад +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @glitchunicorn
    @glitchunicorn 11 месяцев назад +1

    probably just raised the price of the Tetra lol