i got the large. It’s 2 pieces of birch ply one 18/19mm thick and one 12mm for lid, hinged with a pair of friction hinges. the whole thing is CNC routed precisely to save weight i think and any extra joinery.. magnets are added at points to attach metal accessories. the hinges are sturdily reinforced with a metal strip. the supplied palette is acrylic sheet for lightness and you can get a glass one as an extra. the whole thing clips onto a tripod. it is nicely finished and sanded with a very smooth varnish. i’ve used it a few times and its ok but too small for doing anything larger than 12x14 i bought the extender bar too . the thing is the palette area is too small unless you are doing very small stuff 10x12 12x9 5x6 . the whole thing is solidly built so it should last a lifetime. the main thing that spoils it is the tray under the palette is only deep enough for a few small brushes so you have to carry all your paint tubes and mediums etc in a separate container. i have made my own version with a tray underneath that can carry tubes brushes oil knives etc. i will keep the ugo at home on its tripod with the brush shelves attached to hold cups of tea /wet brushes and studio paraphenalia. I think if ugo got hold of some thicker birch ply 25mm or thicker and cnc ed the base it would carry 27ml tubes brushes etc :).
@@MichaelKingArt yes it will have storage for paints wet panels wet pallette an easel tubes mediums and brushes. It will be cnc milled from a single piece of titanium alloy or the optional cherry/walnut for the traditionalists.. of course it will be reassuringly expensive with an option to get the full grain leather carry case
Hi Michael - We appreciate that you took the time to review the u.go Plein Air medium pochade box, and recommended it to your viewers. Thank you. We wanted to provide a quick comment regarding a few items mentioned: 1) Recommended panel size: We recommend a 10" vertical panel for the medium size pochade. For those artists that wish to paint larger vertically, we offer a medium and a large panel extender bar. The medium extender bar increases the recommended vertical panel height to 13” and the large extender bar to 18.5” on the medium pochade. The extender bar ensures stability by connecting magnetically to more magnets, as opposed to altering the design. The extender bars also provide additional support when painting in windy conditions. Another option is to purchase the large pochade that has a recommended vertical height of 14" (this increases to 20" with the large extender bar). 2) Finish: You pointed out 3 blemishes on the underside of your pochade. What you have noticed on the base of the box are called "pin holes." These are found on all wooden products that are finished by hand. The product is placed on a pin rack so the top and bottom can cure in tandem. During this process slight pin holes are formed. The pin holes, while visible on the base, will not absorb water/moister/etc. The product is fully sealed and finished with a highly durable proprietary finish. It is the highest quality wood finish available. 3) Magnets: I apologize for the outlying situation in which the rectangular magnets fell out. This is due to a larger than normal route on that specific box, caused by a slight tolerance during the cut. We have increased the amount of adhesive used during assembly to account for outlying issues caused by any tolerance. We stand by our products 100%, and will fix any outlying situation immediately if a customer contacts us. Thanks again for your review Michael. - The Team at New Wave
It is good to see a company taking time to check reviews by independents and responding with explanations, recommendations and understanding of issues. The product looks great. The reviews I have seen on RUclips as well as those at the major online art distributors like Dick Blick have been mostly positive. Michael's review was good as well and it is appreciated. May I ask if you are using N48 neodymium magnets? Those certainly are powerful and come in several sizes - thin as well. I use them in my James Gurney sketchbook palette. I really am thinking of getting a u.go pochade. I have to decide size and back pack size for me. Thanks - Team at New Wave!
@@Tespen42 Thanks for the note. We appreciate the positive feedback! Many artists are really enjoying their u.go Pochades, as they love how compact and lightweight they are. We do use neodymium magnets, but please understand that we are not able to provide the exact specs. The magnets that we use have an extremely strong magnetic pull and work well for the u.go Pochades. If you need any specifics helping decide which size would work best for you, feel free to contact us through our website at www.NewWaveArt.com or give us a call. Thx Don!
Just curious about the Pochade box after seeing Michael’s review : why the big giant rubber band (called the Cinch) around the box? Maybe I missed it, but isn’t there a closure to keep the box closed? Or some kind of lock so the Cinch is a just for shipping or to ensure it doesn’t open up inside your backpack? If not, and all you get is a rubber band, then I feel it seems more cheaply made. I’m in the market for a higher end Pochade box, so the rubber band would be a deal breaker for me personally.
This video was super-helpful and informative. I have the large u.go and was struggling with a few things, but after some modifications, it's pretty much perfect. I'm an easily distracted and "neat" painter. I think each u.go may have its own personality - I found some solutions to my small issues. 1) bottom panel holder kept sliding down 2) right tray holder was loose - it looked like the big magnet on the palette holder was pushing it away from the box 3) the trays would come off when jostled. In a nutshell, I added one magnet (same size) to the vertical panel holder channel, 3 magnets to each side of the lower panel holder, and 4 magnets to each of the trays, 2 on each side. All magnets are in line and evenly spaced - look like original equipment. I didn't have a Forstner bit, but started them with a regular bit and finished with a router bit - worked great. This is huge - from the factory, the tray brackets were "loose" and would go up or down a few degrees. I carefully adjusted the lip on the bracket to fit snugly over the magnet - now they slide in from the side, butt right up to the box, and they do not move at all. Finally, cut squares of wax paper to take with me, roughly the size of the palette. When I'm done painting, I lay the wax paper over and shut the lid -- it keeps the lid clean and conforms the paint piles to the lid.
I purchased the same medium U.go box, and just bought an additional metal extender for larger panels. Expensive at $29, but works perfectly for 11 x 14 vertical boards.
I have the smallest U.go pochade and use it for watercolor. I love how small it is and how light. I also appreciate how aesthetically pleasing it is. I have also added more magnets for the easel mast and under the palette to hold my metal palette and up tp quarter size watercolor blocks. Thanks for the review.
I agree with the other comments so no point in repeating them. I appreciate the more indepth and technical review of the product though. Most of the other videos I've seen are just: "Hey everyone this is my new painting box! It's cool how it folds open. I love it!" end of video.
Thanks for the great detailed review. For me, not enough depth/space to store the paints is a major negative. It also looks like I can't easily keep the painted panel in progress in the pochade securely, so what's the point of paying such a high cost for a pochade? Not for me, and thanks for saving me the $$$.
@@MichaelKingArt Absolutely was interested in the AP Pochade boxes with the ingenious magnet designs but the weight and high cost combined with the long wait turned me off. I made my own pochade boxes with some wooden boxes found at craft stores, but you're right I always drool over the AP boxes, but I always back out from buying because of the overall weight, even the Lite versions near 5lbs.
@@MichaelKingArt I hear you, and that's why I was interested in the ugo but it won't do for me. You speak from experience and know what you're talking about! Also looked into Strada but that's also counterintuitively heavy for $$$. I'll stick with my homemade pochade with torque position hinges for now and try to forget the lure of a new fancy pochade as if it'll make me a better painter. : D
this is so new not many reviews on it. I love the ugo pochade. However I do watercolor with water color paper. I open it all up flat so the back is down. I use the extended hook to hold a clear piece of plastic acrylic and secure it to my pochade box with the u go elastic. I tape my watercolor paper down too it. I do like the mixing space for the pochade box and I use it strongly in my home when i want to paint in front of the tv. I love the extra shelves. I advise to just get the largest size extra side shelves. so paint brushes down roll backward or slip off. I probably would have gone with the large ones for more drawing space and real estate. You can modify this successfully with industrial strength velcro to keep water or palettes from sliding off.
I tried to use a Guerrilla Umbrella with my 11x14 Ugo mounted on the Ugo Tripod, but a strong wind came and would have knocked the whole thing down if I hadn't caught it. Any recommendations on what kind of umbrella to use, or how to secure the tripod and Ugo pochade in windy conditions? Or, is using an umbrella a lost cause in the wind?
I’ve been there. :)- The trick is to weigh down the tripod with your backpack or large rocks. Many tripods have a hook at the base of the center column to do this.
Thanks for the review Michael! There are some interesting things about this box for sure. If you’re going to jump in this market with a new box, there has to be some innovation. I like the removable palette.
What was the type of magnets you installed? And what type of drill bit? You said it so fast and I couldn’t catch the words you used to describe the extra magnets and drill bit. Thank you, and thanks for the helpful review!
I think anyone would work. I use the Best Brella which clamps onto the tripod as well as the Shade Buddy which is limited as it stakes into the ground. Best Brella is smaller and lighter so it is more of my goto.
They are heavier but have panel storage in them. Bulkier to fit in a backpack but can be done with the smaller sizes. Don’t have to worry where you put paint but the ugo you do. Hope that helps.
I'd love to see a comparison between u.go and Sienna. I like how Sienna's palette area is deeper, and the side tray is built in, instead of additional attachment like u.go. But everyone seems to be crazy about u.go so I'm wondering what's wrong with Sienna.
There are a few reviews of the Sienna on RUclips I believe. From what I see, as I have no experience with the Sienna, is that the u.go would be lighter and more compact. Maybe they can send me one and I can spend time painting with it. :)
@@MichaelKingArt Yeah there are a lot of individual reviews but they each have pro and cons. I guess u.go is a few pounds lighter, but the separate side trays seem cumbersome to carry and assemble.
I have the smallest box. One complaint I think is a major problem. The grip panel holder only holds 1/8" thick panels properly. It won't handle anything thicker than that securely. I think they should have made it to handle 1/4" panels as well. I also wish it had something to level it on the bottom so you could comfortably paint with it sitting on a table. Other than those two things I like it. I have the side trays to expand it out, otherwise the mixing area would be too small. All bundled up this is a great thing to throw into a backpack or bag. Bought the Ugo tripod recently. I'm still not sure how to use it properly (make everything stays rigid & fixed) but it seems to be very stable and nice plus the price was much better than the Sierra tripod. It holds up to 26 lbs!
@@MichaelKingArt Hey thanks for replying! The metal plate on the for the tripod attachment makes the Pochade box a bit wobbly. Not a huge problem. I can set the Pochade box on a table with the attachments and paint. I was thinking I might put some rubber feet on it but now that I have the tripod I just use it on that. I had some 1/4" panels that I glued canvas on and prepared for oils. The Pochade box would not hold those very well at all.
@@shadesofgray5476 Same here. On mine, the lower grip was at a different angle than the upper grip. It would seem to me that if one "channel" is wider, it would be the bottom. I wrote to them and asked if that's how it's supposed to be. They said "yes" and insist that it should hold any panels (with the teeth). So, mine holds a 1/8" on the top "properly" but only about 1/16" on the bottom, which is disappointing. I also found that if the box is jostled at all with MDF panel or hardwood, the bottom panel holder slides ever so slowly downward and has to be raised again (like hiking up your pants all the time). In order to make it secure, I use a spring clamp up top for big panels and/or stretch a cinch across the bottom grip to keep it from slipping down. When I use those workarounds, everything's okay. I'm contemplating adding more magnets. It's a little disappointing, but every pochade box seems to be a matter of trade-offs and this one's better than my DIY tripod easel.
If you’re on a budget maybe this is okay. For another roughly $100-115 dollars I’ll take an Alla Prima “Lite” box . Superior build (I’ve had my Yellowstone and Yellowstone Lite for a decade now and never had magnets drop out and the friction hinges are still tight), superior finishe on the blemishless wood. Better/easier panel holding capacity, better/easier storage.
That’s too big of a door to open given what is available. But I’d say look for something that is not to heavy and that is build to take 3x the weight of your pochade box. I use the Sirui AM-254-US and find it is an amazing tripod.
That’s interesting. What size panels are you using? My gut reaction is to add more magnets, wether 1/4” or 3/8” in diameter. You’ll need a forstner bit in the right size and a drill though.
Hi Susan - If painting in windy conditions we recommend checking out one of our panel extender bars (medium or large). The extender bar ensures stability by connecting magnetically to more magnets. This provides additional support when painting in windy conditions. Any questions, just let us know. - The Team at New Wave
I get what your saying but from a product design point of view something shouldn’t need something else just to work the way it should. Plein air is an all weather venture and we just need our gear to work. Larger magnets for this product would have been more ideal. You may have been able to use less as well, as larger magnets have stronger holding power.
You mentioned storing your paint tubes in the box. If you paint more than 1 picture per day what do you do with your paint tubes in between paintings - or do you clean your palette completely each time so you can restore your tubes of paint in the box?
Not paint tubes just paint piles. Yes, if I’m painting more than one painting a day, or even over two days, I leave the paint in box. If longer, I either spray the paints with a little clove oil or scrape paints onto my home palette so it’s not wasted.
I have the SIENNA tripod will the base of the box screw into any tripod, or have you tried that? Also I have some roll adhesive magnet tape would that work in regard to extending the easel grip?
The connector on the box is a standard thread for all tripods so it should fit. Good question regarding the adhesive magnet tape. My gut tells me it may not be strong enough but until you try we won’t know for sure. Sorry I can’t give a more definitive answer for that.
I have used the New Wave Ugo pochade box and yes I had to add extra magnets while totally abandoning the metal panel holder. So instead I just replaced them with the edge pro gear panel holder. Yes they are compatible! I almost feel like the New Wave uGo copied the Edge Pro Gear. Just my opinion. New Wave Ugo pochade box is vertical and Edge Pro Gear is Horizontal.
Which size New Wave do you have? And, which size panel holders from the Edge Pro Gear did you use? It looks like there are differences in sizes of the panel holders based on which box you get.
@@theforgedone I also use the medium size Ugo pochade box. The Edge gear metal panel holders are the large ones. I can send you guys pictures if you like? Just send me ur email address.
@@MichaelKingArt I should have sent that reply to "Chan Draws", above, who said they used panel holders from edge pro gear with the new wave box. :) But, quick question for you - Do you think it would be easy to hold a sketchbook to the new wave box? (for those of us who want to plein air paint in sketchbooks)
What do you think of the Alla Prima Pochade box as a comparison to this one. I bought one as well, the same size of your review but haven’t used it yet. I like my Alla Prima Pochade box.
Hi Susan - We suggest to everyone to check out the "Instructional How-To" video on RUclips to learn about all the features when using the u.go pochades. :) (Link below) The extender bars are currently available at newwaveart.com, but will be available in retail stores shortly. Instructional How-To Video Link: ruclips.net/video/v66d3qsx0bo/видео.html
Hi ,Michael great video ,just what i was looking for ,a not BS review , there are a couple of wall easel i was looking into ,maybe you review some of them? ,subscribed
I don't think it's an actual pochade box per say. More of a panel holder / palette like the Open box M. Though I think the latter has enough space that you can leave the panel in place without smirshing it into the palette when closed. This one looks a lot shallower. Might not be possible to leave the panel in place. Just guessing though...
That is what a wooden panel is called after it is painted on. When you paint in oils the panel stays wet for a long time, thus the need to have it in a carrier. I guess I could have just said panel carrier. :D Thank you for watching!!!
Michael, Your video would be enhanced if you videoed the issues or items you are discussing, so we can see directly what you are talking about. Otherwise, your evaluation was valuable. Thank you,
First time I saw this box I never liked it the box it’s two pieces of plywood route it out with a Bunch of Mattix it’s not like a box that has sides The only box that I’ve purchased that I like that they made down hinge system is gorilla everybody’s just slap Pieces of wood together buying hinges on AmazonI was happy with my gorilla 179 I like the size I like the system that they have to hold a canvas they designed that it’s well thought out like I said everyone else is Slapping were together
Noted. Still figuring stuff out. For lots of images of the product visit the ugo website. I should ask, you prefer just showing the product over actually reviewing it?
Good idea, I’ll visit the ugo website. You should review the product whilst showing it. Pointing at the features while talking. Its more interesting that way :)
Lol. Yup. i find it interesting that everyone thinks anyone on RUclips should be a professional and know exactly what needs to be done. Keep in mind that this isn’t what I do for a living, I just want to help people out. Take it for what it is. I’ve learned and will apply it to my videos in the future.
@@MichaelKingArt You have ads, so yeah, your should be professional-you're trying to make money from it. If this isn't your living, get rid of the ads.
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i got the large. It’s 2 pieces of birch ply one 18/19mm thick and one 12mm for lid, hinged with a pair of friction hinges. the whole thing is CNC routed precisely to save weight i think and any extra joinery.. magnets are
added at points to attach metal accessories. the hinges are sturdily reinforced with a metal strip. the supplied palette is acrylic sheet for lightness and you can get a glass one as an extra. the whole thing clips onto a tripod. it is nicely finished and sanded with a very smooth varnish. i’ve used it a few times and its ok but too small for doing anything larger than 12x14 i bought the extender bar too .
the thing is the palette area is too small unless you are doing very small stuff 10x12 12x9 5x6 . the whole thing is solidly built so it should last a lifetime. the main thing that spoils it is the tray under the palette is only deep enough for a few small brushes so you have to carry all your paint tubes and mediums etc in a separate container. i have made my own version with a tray underneath that can carry tubes brushes oil knives etc. i will keep the ugo at home on its tripod with the brush shelves attached to hold cups of tea /wet brushes and studio paraphenalia. I think if ugo got hold of some thicker birch ply 25mm or thicker and cnc ed the base it would carry 27ml tubes brushes etc :).
I have to agree with everything you mentioned. One day there will be the perfect pochade box. Lol.
@@MichaelKingArt yes it will have storage for paints wet panels wet pallette an easel tubes mediums and brushes. It will be cnc milled from a single piece of titanium alloy or the optional cherry/walnut for the traditionalists.. of course it will be reassuringly expensive with an option to get the full grain leather carry case
Hi Michael - We appreciate that you took the time to review the u.go Plein Air medium pochade box, and recommended it to your viewers. Thank you. We wanted to provide a quick comment regarding a few items mentioned:
1) Recommended panel size: We recommend a 10" vertical panel for the medium size pochade. For those artists that wish to paint larger vertically, we offer a medium and a large panel extender bar. The medium extender bar increases the recommended vertical panel height to 13” and the large extender bar to 18.5” on the medium pochade. The extender bar ensures stability by connecting magnetically to more magnets, as opposed to altering the design. The extender bars also provide additional support when painting in windy conditions. Another option is to purchase the large pochade that has a recommended vertical height of 14" (this increases to 20" with the large extender bar).
2) Finish: You pointed out 3 blemishes on the underside of your pochade. What you have noticed on the base of the box are called "pin holes." These are found on all wooden products that are finished by hand. The product is placed on a pin rack so the top and bottom can cure in tandem. During this process slight pin holes are formed. The pin holes, while visible on the base, will not absorb water/moister/etc. The product is fully sealed and finished with a highly durable proprietary finish. It is the highest quality wood finish available.
3) Magnets: I apologize for the outlying situation in which the rectangular magnets fell out. This is due to a larger than normal route on that specific box, caused by a slight tolerance during the cut. We have increased the amount of adhesive used during assembly to account for outlying issues caused by any tolerance. We stand by our products 100%, and will fix any outlying situation immediately if a customer contacts us.
Thanks again for your review Michael.
- The Team at New Wave
It is good to see a company taking time to check reviews by independents and responding with explanations, recommendations and understanding of issues. The product looks great. The reviews I have seen on RUclips as well as those at the major online art distributors like Dick Blick have been mostly positive. Michael's review was good as well and it is appreciated. May I ask if you are using N48 neodymium magnets? Those certainly are powerful and come in several sizes - thin as well. I use them in my James Gurney sketchbook palette. I really am thinking of getting a u.go pochade. I have to decide size and back pack size for me. Thanks - Team at New Wave!
@@Tespen42 Thanks for the note. We appreciate the positive feedback! Many artists are really enjoying their u.go Pochades, as they love how compact and lightweight they are. We do use neodymium magnets, but please understand that we are not able to provide the exact specs. The magnets that we use have an extremely strong magnetic pull and work well for the u.go Pochades. If you need any specifics helping decide which size would work best for you, feel free to contact us through our website at www.NewWaveArt.com or give us a call. Thx Don!
Just curious about the Pochade box after seeing Michael’s review : why the big giant rubber band (called the Cinch) around the box? Maybe I missed it, but isn’t there a closure to keep the box closed? Or some kind of lock so the Cinch is a just for shipping or to ensure it doesn’t open up inside your backpack? If not, and all you get is a rubber band, then I feel it seems more cheaply made. I’m in the market for a higher end Pochade box, so the rubber band would be a deal breaker for me personally.
Rubber band isn’t needed to keep the box closed, it has magnets for that. Maybe it’s there to hold the side panel holders close to the box?
This video was super-helpful and informative. I have the large u.go and was struggling with a few things, but after some modifications, it's pretty much perfect. I'm an easily distracted and "neat" painter. I think each u.go may have its own personality - I found some solutions to my small issues. 1) bottom panel holder kept sliding down 2) right tray holder was loose - it looked like the big magnet on the palette holder was pushing it away from the box 3) the trays would come off when jostled. In a nutshell, I added one magnet (same size) to the vertical panel holder channel, 3 magnets to each side of the lower panel holder, and 4 magnets to each of the trays, 2 on each side. All magnets are in line and evenly spaced - look like original equipment. I didn't have a Forstner bit, but started them with a regular bit and finished with a router bit - worked great. This is huge - from the factory, the tray brackets were "loose" and would go up or down a few degrees. I carefully adjusted the lip on the bracket to fit snugly over the magnet - now they slide in from the side, butt right up to the box, and they do not move at all. Finally, cut squares of wax paper to take with me, roughly the size of the palette. When I'm done painting, I lay the wax paper over and shut the lid -- it keeps the lid clean and conforms the paint piles to the lid.
I purchased the same medium U.go box, and just bought an additional metal extender for larger panels. Expensive at $29, but works perfectly for 11 x 14 vertical boards.
Pricey but much cheaper than the large size box. I’ll have to keep this in mind.
I have the smallest U.go pochade and use it for watercolor. I love how small it is and how light. I also appreciate how aesthetically pleasing it is. I have also added more magnets for the easel mast and under the palette to hold my metal palette and up tp quarter size watercolor blocks. Thanks for the review.
Thank you. I am a senior who tried water colour to get through Covid. I really appreciate honest reviews like yours.
I agree with the other comments so no point in repeating them.
I appreciate the more indepth and technical review of the product though.
Most of the other videos I've seen are just: "Hey everyone this is my new painting box! It's cool how it folds open. I love it!" end of video.
Thanks for the great detailed review. For me, not enough depth/space to store the paints is a major negative. It also looks like I can't easily keep the painted panel in progress in the pochade securely, so what's the point of paying such a high cost for a pochade? Not for me, and thanks for saving me the $$$.
All very valid points!! Glad it helped. Have you looked at the Alla Prima Pochade boxes?
@@MichaelKingArt Absolutely was interested in the AP Pochade boxes with the ingenious magnet designs but the weight and high cost combined with the long wait turned me off. I made my own pochade boxes with some wooden boxes found at craft stores, but you're right I always drool over the AP boxes, but I always back out from buying because of the overall weight, even the Lite versions near 5lbs.
Definitely an investment and agree with the weight which the main reason I bought the ugo, except now I have to carry panel carriers as well. LOL.
@@MichaelKingArt I hear you, and that's why I was interested in the ugo but it won't do for me. You speak from experience and know what you're talking about! Also looked into Strada but that's also counterintuitively heavy for $$$. I'll stick with my homemade pochade with torque position hinges for now and try to forget the lure of a new fancy pochade as if it'll make me a better painter. : D
Thanks so much. I love how succinctly you covered the information. Add excellent public speaker to your many other areas of expertise!
Thank you very much.
this is so new not many reviews on it. I love the ugo pochade. However I do watercolor with water color paper. I open it all up flat so the back is down. I use the extended hook to hold a clear piece of plastic acrylic and secure it to my pochade box with the u go elastic. I tape my watercolor paper down too it. I do like the mixing space for the pochade box and I use it strongly in my home when i want to paint in front of the tv. I love the extra shelves. I advise to just get the largest size extra side shelves. so paint brushes down roll backward or slip off. I probably would have gone with the large ones for more drawing space and real estate. You can modify this successfully with industrial strength velcro to keep water or palettes from sliding off.
hehe I had already seen plenty of unboxing of the product so your review was exactly what I was looking for :-) thanks!
I tried to use a Guerrilla Umbrella with my 11x14 Ugo mounted on the Ugo Tripod, but a strong wind came and would have knocked the whole thing down if I hadn't caught it. Any recommendations on what kind of umbrella to use, or how to secure the tripod and Ugo pochade in windy conditions? Or, is using an umbrella a lost cause in the wind?
I’ve been there. :)- The trick is to weigh down the tripod with your backpack or large rocks. Many tripods have a hook at the base of the center column to do this.
Thanks, I might give it a try but would have been nice to see you actually using it. I haven't seen one in person so that would be helpful!
If you check out my plein air videos after this review you will see it in action. But very good point.
Thanks for the review Michael! There are some interesting things about this box for sure. If you’re going to jump in this market with a new box, there has to be some innovation. I like the removable palette.
Have you ever tried the STRADA boxes? I keep seeing them everywhere..they look indestructible and convenient..but pricey!
No I haven’t. I have a friend that’s been using hers for years and takes it everywhere. Holds up well.
What was the type of magnets you installed? And what type of drill bit? You said it so fast and I couldn’t catch the words you used to describe the extra magnets and drill bit. Thank you, and thanks for the helpful review!
The magnets are 3/8” neodymium (rare earth) and I used a 3/8” forsner bit as it is a flat bottom drill bit. Hope that helps.
What would be a good umbrella system to work with this pochade box?
I think anyone would work. I use the Best Brella which clamps onto the tripod as well as the Shade Buddy which is limited as it stakes into the ground. Best Brella is smaller and lighter so it is more of my goto.
@@MichaelKingArt this is the one that sounds the best, they're not selling them anymore though. Thanks for the reply.
You mention the Alla Prima Pochade. How does that compare with this pochade?
They are heavier but have panel storage in them. Bulkier to fit in a backpack but can be done with the smaller sizes. Don’t have to worry where you put paint but the ugo you do. Hope that helps.
I'd love to see a comparison between u.go and Sienna. I like how Sienna's palette area is deeper, and the side tray is built in, instead of additional attachment like u.go. But everyone seems to be crazy about u.go so I'm wondering what's wrong with Sienna.
There are a few reviews of the Sienna on RUclips I believe. From what I see, as I have no experience with the Sienna, is that the u.go would be lighter and more compact. Maybe they can send me one and I can spend time painting with it. :)
@@MichaelKingArt Yeah there are a lot of individual reviews but they each have pro and cons. I guess u.go is a few pounds lighter, but the separate side trays seem cumbersome to carry and assemble.
I use both. The sienna is heavier but can use much larger canvases and panels with it.
I have the smallest box. One complaint I think is a major problem. The grip panel holder only holds 1/8" thick panels properly. It won't handle anything thicker than that securely. I think they should have made it to handle 1/4" panels as well. I also wish it had something to level it on the bottom so you could comfortably paint with it sitting on a table. Other than those two things I like it. I have the side trays to expand it out, otherwise the mixing area would be too small. All bundled up this is a great thing to throw into a backpack or bag. Bought the Ugo tripod recently. I'm still not sure how to use it properly (make everything stays rigid & fixed) but it seems to be very stable and nice plus the price was much better than the Sierra tripod. It holds up to 26 lbs!
I’ll have to try a 1/4” panel in next time. My box is flat on the bottom, is there something sticking out on yours?
@@MichaelKingArt Hey thanks for replying! The metal plate on the for the tripod attachment makes the Pochade box a bit wobbly. Not a huge problem. I can set the Pochade box on a table with the attachments and paint. I was thinking I might put some rubber feet on it but now that I have the tripod I just use it on that. I had some 1/4" panels that I glued canvas on and prepared for oils. The Pochade box would not hold those very well at all.
Interesting. Rubber feet sounds like the perfect solution though.
@@shadesofgray5476 Same here. On mine, the lower grip was at a different angle than the upper grip. It would seem to me that if one "channel" is wider, it would be the bottom. I wrote to them and asked if that's how it's supposed to be. They said "yes" and insist that it should hold any panels (with the teeth). So, mine holds a 1/8" on the top "properly" but only about 1/16" on the bottom, which is disappointing. I also found that if the box is jostled at all with MDF panel or hardwood, the bottom panel holder slides ever so slowly downward and has to be raised again (like hiking up your pants all the time). In order to make it secure, I use a spring clamp up top for big panels and/or stretch a cinch across the bottom grip to keep it from slipping down. When I use those workarounds, everything's okay. I'm contemplating adding more magnets. It's a little disappointing, but every pochade box seems to be a matter of trade-offs and this one's better than my DIY tripod easel.
If you’re on a budget maybe this is okay. For another roughly $100-115 dollars I’ll take an Alla Prima “Lite” box . Superior build (I’ve had my Yellowstone and Yellowstone Lite for a decade now and never had magnets drop out and the friction hinges are still tight), superior finishe on the blemishless wood. Better/easier panel holding capacity, better/easier storage.
Agree 100%
Could you review/ recommend a tripod?
That’s too big of a door to open given what is available. But I’d say look for something that is not to heavy and that is build to take 3x the weight of your pochade box. I use the Sirui AM-254-US and find it is an amazing tripod.
Thanks for posting your thoughts. I recently purchased the larger Ugo box. Found the panel holders inadequate in windy conditions. Suggestions?
That’s interesting. What size panels are you using? My gut reaction is to add more magnets, wether 1/4” or 3/8” in diameter. You’ll need a forstner bit in the right size and a drill though.
Hi Susan - If painting in windy conditions we recommend checking out one of our panel extender bars (medium or large). The extender bar ensures stability by connecting magnetically to more magnets. This provides additional support when painting in windy conditions. Any questions, just let us know.
- The Team at New Wave
I get what your saying but from a product design point of view something shouldn’t need something else just to work the way it should. Plein air is an all weather venture and we just need our gear to work. Larger magnets for this product would have been more ideal. You may have been able to use less as well, as larger magnets have stronger holding power.
You mentioned storing your paint tubes in the box. If you paint more than 1 picture per day what do you do with your paint tubes in between paintings - or do you clean your palette completely each time so you can restore your tubes of paint in the box?
Not paint tubes just paint piles. Yes, if I’m painting more than one painting a day, or even over two days, I leave the paint in box. If longer, I either spray the paints with a little clove oil or scrape paints onto my home palette so it’s not wasted.
I have the SIENNA tripod will the base of the box screw into any tripod, or have you tried that? Also I have some roll adhesive magnet tape would that work in regard to extending the easel grip?
The connector on the box is a standard thread for all tripods so it should fit. Good question regarding the adhesive magnet tape. My gut tells me it may not be strong enough but until you try we won’t know for sure. Sorry I can’t give a more definitive answer for that.
I have used the New Wave Ugo pochade box and yes I had to add extra magnets while totally abandoning the metal panel holder. So instead I just replaced them with the edge pro gear panel holder. Yes they are compatible! I almost feel like the New Wave uGo copied the Edge Pro Gear. Just my opinion. New Wave Ugo pochade box is vertical and Edge Pro Gear is Horizontal.
Now that is interesting!
Which size New Wave do you have? And, which size panel holders from the Edge Pro Gear did you use? It looks like there are differences in sizes of the panel holders based on which box you get.
I have the medium sized New Wave box. I make my own panel holders in various sizes. I don’t own anything by Edge Pro Gear.
@@theforgedone I also use the medium size Ugo pochade box. The Edge gear metal panel holders are the large ones. I can send you guys pictures if you like? Just send me ur email address.
@@MichaelKingArt I should have sent that reply to "Chan Draws", above, who said they used panel holders from edge pro gear with the new wave box. :)
But, quick question for you - Do you think it would be easy to hold a sketchbook to the new wave box? (for those of us who want to plein air paint in sketchbooks)
Can you review the Edge Pro Gear Paintbook easel?
Gotta save up for that one, unless they are reading this and want to send me one. 😜
@@MichaelKingArt Yeah that one is an expensive one :-)
What do you think of the Alla Prima Pochade box as a comparison to this one. I bought one as well, the same size of your review but haven’t used it yet. I like my Alla Prima Pochade box.
I have the YellowStone model of the Alla Prima and love it. When I am not hiking for long it is my go to box! Heavier though.
can you paint acrylic on the palette they give you will it scrape off when dry
Yes you can.
@@MichaelKingArt Thanks for your quick reply....very helpful to me!
You can buy the hinges separately
I just got my box in the in the mail today
The extender bars are worth a try. Where to purchase? Also, thinking that the grips which hold the panel are insufficient.
Hi Susan - We suggest to everyone to check out the "Instructional How-To" video on RUclips to learn about all the features when using the u.go pochades. :) (Link below)
The extender bars are currently available at newwaveart.com, but will be available in retail stores shortly. Instructional How-To Video Link: ruclips.net/video/v66d3qsx0bo/видео.html
Think I have a solution ; clothes pin! Bonus ; the light colored wooden pin matches the box!
Thanks so much, bravissimo!
Hi ,Michael great video ,just what i was looking for ,a not BS review , there are a couple of wall easel i was looking into ,maybe you review some of them? ,subscribed
I’d love to, but that kind of stuff isn’t really within my budget.
is there space on the inside that'll allow you to keep fresh paint on the palette while the pochade box is closed?
I don't think it's an actual pochade box per say. More of a panel holder / palette like the Open box M. Though I think the latter has enough space that you can leave the panel in place without smirshing it into the palette when closed. This one looks a lot shallower. Might not be possible to leave the panel in place. Just guessing though...
Yes, I note it in the video.
What is a wet panel
That is what a wooden panel is called after it is painted on. When you paint in oils the panel stays wet for a long time, thus the need to have it in a carrier. I guess I could have just said panel carrier. :D Thank you for watching!!!
Michael, Your video would be enhanced if you videoed the issues or items you are discussing, so we can see directly what you are talking about. Otherwise, your evaluation was valuable. Thank you,
show the product, less talk.
@Adriana: Agree
Please review the edgepro
I would love to but not in my budget right now. If the manufacturers are reading this, please reach out.
So, sound like a cheaply made very expensive box. I'm in!
Lol. Yes and no. Over priced, yes. Good quality, yes. Could it be better, yes.
We only see you in the entire video. We don't see the box more than 5 seconds
Noted
You talk to fast. You explain. You don't even show the box!!!!
Notes for my next videos.
First time I saw this box I never liked it the box it’s two pieces of plywood route it out with a Bunch of Mattix it’s not like a box that has sides The only box that I’ve purchased that I like that they made down hinge system is gorilla everybody’s just slap Pieces of wood together buying hinges on AmazonI was happy with my gorilla 179 I like the size I like the system that they have to hold a canvas they designed that it’s well thought out like I said everyone else is Slapping were together
You should look into the Alla Prima Pochade boxes then. For me they are the Cadillac of pochade. Although I like this med ugo box I find it lacking.
hmm would be nice to see more of the actual item rather than talking
You’re suppose to show the product..... its all talk talk talk.
Noted. Still figuring stuff out. For lots of images of the product visit the ugo website. I should ask, you prefer just showing the product over actually reviewing it?
Good idea, I’ll visit the ugo website. You should review the product whilst showing it. Pointing at the features while talking. Its more interesting that way :)
Would like less talking head and more demo/display camera work of its virtues.
Thanks
Less face time, more box. Seriously, you're a handsome man, but you aren't reviewing you. Or are you?
Lol. Yup. i find it interesting that everyone thinks anyone on RUclips should be a professional and know exactly what needs to be done. Keep in mind that this isn’t what I do for a living, I just want to help people out. Take it for what it is. I’ve learned and will apply it to my videos in the future.
@@MichaelKingArt You have ads, so yeah, your should be professional-you're trying to make money from it. If this isn't your living, get rid of the ads.
Lol. Have you seen RUclips?
@@MichaelKingArt So, you're a lemming unable to think for yourself. Not surprising.
LOL