Excellent review! I'm glad you pointed out the 'premature' wear/defects ; it's one of the disadvantages of online shopping--we don't get to pick over the merchandise before paying. Another commenter suggested a decent repair for both 'flaws'. Your quick reference and links to other Pochade boxes is the crowning touch that sets your review 'style' apart. It's almost always worthwhile to pass on information gathered during research on products that will be useful to others but is not strictly relevant to the video--but so few reviewers do it. To bad, 'cuz it ends up being partly wasted time then. Thanks again.
Thank you! Yeah, I noticed that there weren't many videos out there comparing similar products so I thought that I'd make one for the people looking to buy one 😄
Guerrilla/judson’s make a mighty mite jr brush washer and short handle brushes designed to fit inside the 8x10 Pochade box. I have the whole kit , including the Carrying Bag and tripod carrying bag.
I have the 6x8 Guerrilla box and wish I'd ordered the 8x10. I agree that the storage ability is a huge plus. Very good job on your video. Keep posting. Would love to see some Plein air videos of your work...
Ahh, I considered the 6x8 box too, but I was worried that I might itch for something a little bigger as I grow as a painter. I'm still getting into the groove of plein air painting but once I get comfortable with it, videos will definitely come!
Very good comparison. I have the Ugo Pochade Box which is super lightweight and well made. After some time I think the Guerilla Painter might have been a better choice because of the storage space.
Thanks. I had decided to buy this one before watching your video. Weight is a very important issue for me, because I have to travel on public transportation and then walk for 15-20 minutes. If equipment is too heavy, you are tired by the time you get to where you are painting. Also, this is easy to put in a backpack and take on a plane. And being able to carry 1 or 2 wet paintings is also very important to me. dickblicks website says it includes extension clips which make it possible to paint larger than 8x10. Do you know anything about that? Here is a tip for you. You don't have to carry tubes of paint. Get some pillboxes. They have 7 compartments. The large sized compartments are best for this. I fill 2 of these pillboxes with the paints I will use. It's very light weight and they are flat. If you still need to bring 1 or 2 small, extra tubes, you will still save space and weight.
Very nice review. I have this box and other Guerrilla boxes. This is my favorite and used it a lot. But actually, I would rather like to have one in a metric size. That is an issue I think. The metric system is more common in the world too. Recently got a u.go box and that is perfect for me.
I agree. Where I'm from, it's more common to find panels that are 20cmx25cm vs 8"x10". The u.go box being able to hold panels of varying sizes is definitely one of its strengths, making it so versatile.
Built-in wet panel carriers are limited by panel size, but here's an updated version of what our ancestors did - Glue 8 strong brass drawing pins back to back, using Araldite or GB Weld, to make 4 double-ended pins. Stick one in each corner of your wet panel/canvas and then a spare panel/canvas (can also be wet) the same size on top of it. For extra security secure panels with rubber bands or masking tape. - You're done. Interestingly, Van Gogh didn't bother with this and just tied his wet painting onto his back, (wet side away from him!) Not ideal and to this day, some have sand embedded in them and in a couple it's clear that he must have fallen over as well. What a guy!
@@tr33m00nk Users tend to buy what they want, rather than what they need. As $300-400 pochade boxes make more profit than drawing pins, then supply stores are happy to supply these for users, instead of pins. It's silly because once you take away the wet panel carrier by using pins then users would realise just how limited those expensive boxes are. Any decent pochade box should handle panels from 7"x5" up to 20"x16", but these don't.
i have the meeden box you showed, it is chunky, but it carries everything i need inside of it. (minus my gamsol pot) i also got it with the tripod. i carry everything in a backpack when i go hiking so it really isnt that bad epecially for a day trip.
If you want to paint 8x8, or 8x6, or 9x6, for example, you can't slide the panel holders to accommodate these widths less than 10"? That's what I am understanding. You have to tape the panel to the lid? And the lid won't hold these smaller sizes wet? Only 10x8? Do I have this right? What about connecting a tripod. Do you have to get a plate and screws for the box to connect it to a tripod, or does it snap easily onto a tripod? Assembling and disassembling each time I use the tripod is not too difficult, but really not desirable when I am outside.
Hey there. Yeah, panels that are less than 10" wide won't reach the clips unless you get an addon that's available on their site. For me, I just tape the smaller panels to the back and it works fine, even with wet panels. For tripod mounting, it takes any standard tripod screw. What you could do is buy an extra tripod plate and just leave it on the box all the time (though the box won't be able to sit flat on a surface after you do so). Hope this helps!
I was hoping to carry soft pastels in this type of box. Considering the Guerrilla cigar 8x10 box with conversion inserts. Do you have any idea how well it protects soft pastels? Thank you, very nice review of the box
You could use a foldable water container and that might fit in. If there's no water available you might want to bring an extra bottle of water with you in your backpack/satchel.
You could just turn the painting facing the other way before packing up, couldn't you? That way if palette paint touches, it will be on the back of your panel. Thanks for the review
I like the build and wood of guerilla boxes but I can't justify the price. Also I think they are on the smallish size. What if you want to paint, for example, a 12" x 10" (inches) or larger landscape? Also, based on my experience, there is never enough room in a pochade box for storage. So you'll be adding extra color tubes, maybe extra (longer?) brushes, paper towels, extra canvases, etc in your knapsack. I guess what I'm saying is I tend to go minimalist on the painting support---I have a mabef folding-palette narrow box easel but never use it---I use instead a rickety old mabef three leg support with arms that stick out to rest my palette on. (I like to have a palette I hold in my hand.) This mabef easel is lightweight and works for me. I would like to get a tripod based system, but can't find an inexpensive pochade box that will be sturdy enough for larger canvases, so I will probably buy a tripod attachment to support canvases, or build a simple clamshell pochade box out of two cradled paint boards (with torque hinges holding them together). A 14" x 11" canvas can be stored in the next largest cradled size, so there's your wet canvas carrier. If I decide to limit myself to smaller canvases I'll reconsider a guerilla pochade; I think one model sells for $120 on sale at Amazon. Thanks for your vid.
Sounds like you might need a French easel instead. I have one and it's set up permanently at home. I bought a New Wave U.Go Porchade box and I love it. Haven't taken it out of the house but I use it for smaller painting sketches while I prep my main canvas.
@@JaeSernArt To fix your hinges, remove screws and fold hinge and then tap in matches, or toothpicks, into the screw holes and cut off flush with the holes. Use bradawl or large needle to make small hole in the exact centre of holes. Fold back hinge and replace and retighten screws. Your hinges are now fixed.
Excellent review! I'm glad you pointed out the 'premature' wear/defects ; it's one of the disadvantages of online shopping--we don't get to pick over the merchandise before paying. Another commenter suggested a decent repair for both 'flaws'.
Your quick reference and links to other Pochade boxes is the crowning touch that sets your review 'style' apart. It's almost always worthwhile to pass on information gathered during research on products that will be useful to others but is not strictly relevant to the video--but so few reviewers do it. To bad, 'cuz it ends up being partly wasted time then.
Thanks again.
Thank you! Yeah, I noticed that there weren't many videos out there comparing similar products so I thought that I'd make one for the people looking to buy one 😄
Guerrilla/judson’s make a mighty mite jr brush washer and short handle brushes designed to fit inside the 8x10 Pochade box. I have the whole kit , including the Carrying Bag and tripod carrying bag.
Thanks for this detailed review!
love mine. I have the smalle 6x8 and the larger 10x12.....All the things you have said are why i love mine so much.
That's awesome! I'm tempted to get a smaller one too for the quicker sessions 😂
I have the 6x8 Guerrilla box and wish I'd ordered the 8x10. I agree that the storage ability is a huge plus. Very good job on your video. Keep posting. Would love to see some Plein air videos of your work...
Ahh, I considered the 6x8 box too, but I was worried that I might itch for something a little bigger as I grow as a painter. I'm still getting into the groove of plein air painting but once I get comfortable with it, videos will definitely come!
Very good comparison. I have the Ugo Pochade Box which is super lightweight and well made. After some time I think the Guerilla Painter might have been a better choice because of the storage space.
Thanks. I had decided to buy this one before watching your video. Weight is a very important issue for me, because I have to travel on public transportation and then walk for 15-20 minutes. If equipment is too heavy, you are tired by the time you get to where you are painting. Also, this is easy to put in a backpack and take on a plane. And being able to carry 1 or 2 wet paintings is also very important to me.
dickblicks website says it includes extension clips which make it possible to paint larger than 8x10. Do you know anything about that?
Here is a tip for you. You don't have to carry tubes of paint. Get some pillboxes. They have 7 compartments. The large sized compartments are best for this. I fill 2 of these pillboxes with the paints I will use. It's very light weight and they are flat. If you still need to bring 1 or 2 small, extra tubes, you will still save space and weight.
Looks very nice, thank you.
Great video as always!! I’m seriously considering getting one of these boxes and your review helps a lot. Thank you!
Happy to help. Definitely go ahead and get one
cool art tool! never heard of a pochade box before, but now im well informed :)
You're welcome :)
Great review thank-you Love the art!
Very nice review. I have this box and other Guerrilla boxes. This is my favorite and used it a lot. But actually, I would rather like to have one in a metric size. That is an issue I think. The metric system is more common in the world too. Recently got a u.go box and that is perfect for me.
I agree. Where I'm from, it's more common to find panels that are 20cmx25cm vs 8"x10". The u.go box being able to hold panels of varying sizes is definitely one of its strengths, making it so versatile.
Nice job! try a drop of crazy glue in the loose screw holes. might work on the loose thread as well.
That's actually such a simple solution! I'll try it out, thanks
Built-in wet panel carriers are limited by panel size, but here's an updated version of what our ancestors did - Glue 8 strong brass drawing pins back to back, using Araldite or GB Weld, to make 4 double-ended pins. Stick one in each corner of your wet panel/canvas and then a spare panel/canvas (can also be wet) the same size on top of it. For extra security secure panels with rubber bands or masking tape. - You're done.
Interestingly, Van Gogh didn't bother with this and just tied his wet painting onto his back, (wet side away from him!) Not ideal and to this day, some have sand embedded in them and in a couple it's clear that he must have fallen over as well. What a guy!
Excellent idea. I wonder why the 'supply stores' don't still carry these double-pointed-pins? Even with canvas panel boards they would be useful.
@@tr33m00nk Users tend to buy what they want, rather than what they need. As $300-400 pochade boxes make more profit than drawing pins, then supply stores are happy to supply these for users, instead of pins.
It's silly because once you take away the wet panel carrier by using pins then users would realise just how limited those expensive boxes are. Any decent pochade box should handle panels from 7"x5" up to 20"x16", but these don't.
Clear, concise, and useful -- thank you.
i have the meeden box you showed, it is chunky, but it carries everything i need inside of it. (minus my gamsol pot) i also got it with the tripod. i carry everything in a backpack when i go hiking so it really isnt that bad epecially for a day trip.
Fantastic review! Thank you so much!
If you want to paint 8x8, or 8x6, or 9x6, for example, you can't slide the panel holders to accommodate these widths less than 10"? That's what I am understanding. You have to tape the panel to the lid? And the lid won't hold these smaller sizes wet? Only 10x8? Do I have this right?
What about connecting a tripod. Do you have to get a plate and screws for the box to connect it to a tripod, or does it snap easily onto a tripod? Assembling and disassembling each time I use the tripod is not too difficult, but really not desirable when I am outside.
Hey there. Yeah, panels that are less than 10" wide won't reach the clips unless you get an addon that's available on their site. For me, I just tape the smaller panels to the back and it works fine, even with wet panels.
For tripod mounting, it takes any standard tripod screw. What you could do is buy an extra tripod plate and just leave it on the box all the time (though the box won't be able to sit flat on a surface after you do so).
Hope this helps!
Thank you, this is so helpful!!
I was hoping to carry soft pastels in this type of box. Considering the Guerrilla cigar 8x10 box with conversion inserts. Do you have any idea how well it protects soft pastels? Thank you, very nice review of the box
Thanks!
Gréât review !!!!
Dude , I own every size Guerrilla Pochade box, one each for watercolor, oil and pastel.
Oh wow, never thought of using them for pastels. I imagine the storage is super convenient to carry them.
@@JaeSernArtthey make a pastel conversion kit for the 8x10 Pochade box also. I have it .
Thank you
You could use a foldable water container and that might fit in. If there's no water available you might want to bring an extra bottle of water with you in your backpack/satchel.
Yeah the folding container is a good suggestion. I usually carry a bottle of water with me in my backpack so I already have that sorted.
Im on a budget so i got the soho scout pachad box, im please with it but it doesn't lay flat like the guerrilla painter.
You could just turn the painting facing the other way before packing up, couldn't you? That way if palette paint touches, it will be on the back of your panel.
Thanks for the review
Yep, that's a great solution. I just wanted to point it out so that people are aware and don't make the same mistake 😁
I like the build and wood of guerilla boxes but I can't justify the price. Also I think they are on the smallish size. What if you want to paint, for example, a 12" x 10" (inches) or larger landscape? Also, based on my experience, there is never enough room in a pochade box for storage. So you'll be adding extra color tubes, maybe extra (longer?) brushes, paper towels, extra canvases, etc in your knapsack. I guess what I'm saying is I tend to go minimalist on the painting support---I have a mabef folding-palette narrow box easel but never use it---I use instead a rickety old mabef three leg support with arms that stick out to rest my palette on. (I like to have a palette I hold in my hand.) This mabef easel is lightweight and works for me. I would like to get a tripod based system, but can't find an inexpensive pochade box that will be sturdy enough for larger canvases, so I will probably buy a tripod attachment to support canvases, or build a simple clamshell pochade box out of two cradled paint boards (with torque hinges holding them together). A 14" x 11" canvas can be stored in the next largest cradled size, so there's your wet canvas carrier. If I decide to limit myself to smaller canvases I'll reconsider a guerilla pochade; I think one model sells for $120 on sale at Amazon. Thanks for your vid.
Sounds like you might need a French easel instead. I have one and it's set up permanently at home. I bought a New Wave U.Go Porchade box and I love it. Haven't taken it out of the house but I use it for smaller painting sketches while I prep my main canvas.
Take the screw, put a very thin piece of match stick or cardboard in the hole, screw should snug up
I have 3 different sizes for sale.
If you contact the gurria company they will fix it for you
I've no doubt that they would, they're fantastic. However, I live so far away and shipping will cost so much that I'd rather just live with it.
@@JaeSernArt To fix your hinges, remove screws and fold hinge and then tap in matches, or toothpicks, into the screw holes and cut off flush with the holes. Use bradawl or large needle to make small hole in the exact centre of holes. Fold back hinge and replace and retighten screws. Your hinges are now fixed.
Way too heavy!