MLM TOP FAILS #73 | Exploiting sister’s death and son’s Autism for Arbonne sales
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Ngl, the way to my heart is through food related sponsorships
Watching your video at work
As a manager meat cutter 😅
i mean, i *hope* your water is “hydrogen-rich” - it should be…since it’s water
My water is not only hydrogen-rich, it's also oxygen-rich!
They want H3O it seems.
@@demo2823 I mean, if she wants to drink Hydronium, which is acidic, then that's on her.....
Did they come up with H55O?? 😂
To be fair, they said molecular hydrogen. I think the machine is supposed to reduce H2O into H2 and OH-. But I don't know whether the hydrogen stays dissolved in the water (vs gassing off) or why you would want to drink hydrogen gas
Autistic people don’t want to be “healed,” we just wanna be accepted. That is such a hard thing for society to come to terms with.
That is a generalization. My mom, brother, and ex husband are all autistic. All three would love to have a magic button they could push to be neurotypical. They all realize what a burden their limitations caused by autism are, and the fact that it alienates them from others. They do not enjoy their sensory issues, social impairments, or meltdowns. I have had deep discussions about this and among their online support groups this is a common feeling which is just as valid as embracing autism. Some people don't like it or want it and that shouldn't be disparaged or erased.
@@user-yn4xc8kt3icorrect, I was trying to generalize in my comment. I most certainly don’t want mine, it’s nearly ruined my life. I’m just saying if society could view us as just a little different versus someone that needs constant fixing it would be nice 😅
@@user-yn4xc8kt3i I think it more has to do with neurotypicals feeling the need to fix or cure those who are neurodivergent because our struggles can be inconvenient to some, understandably so (they're inconvenient to me too lol). I don't like how I struggle in my day to day life and I do wish I could be neurotypical BUT I hate it when people around me think my neurodiversity is something to be fixed or cured or it's something that I did to myself. I would rather be accepted the way I am than have people around me try to fix me when I can't be "fixed".
To me it seems more like, whether the desire to not be autistic is there or not, is immaterial. It can’t be gotten rid of, so acceptance and support has to be the path that’s followed. Like with so many other disabilities.
Not true. Many people with autism want to assimilate as best they can. There is no one right answer.
As a mom with an autistic child, I strongly disagree with that lady's hot take that "therapy isn't helping your child with autism." That makes me want to throw up. My toddler goes to therapy three times a week, and it's the best decision we could have ever made for him. He's made huge strides in every area of his development, and it's such a sweet thing to see my son have a team of caregivers who loves and helps him.
Arbonne could never.
Right? I’m a former special education teacher and am fully aware of the monumental benefits of various therapies for children with autism. It is widely known that early intervention via therapy (OT, feeding therapy, play therapy, etc, etc) is the very best and healthiest way to ensure that children with autism learn and progress as they develop. I hate these companies who try to claim otherwise. I mean, if you think oils and supplements are helping your child a little, fine. But for this person to outright claim that the truly effective treatments should be set aside for the alternatives is appalling.
It really depends on the kind of therapy. Some kinds are really helpful to autistic kids, some can be really traumatizing. However there is no doubt that Arbonne supplements aren't going to be of any help 😂 also idk what she's on about with the "heavily medicated" since there is no medication for autism
As an autistic human… it depends on the therapy. ABA, for example can make children more manageable and compliant… but there’s a lot of trauma happening that neurotypical people don’t understand that can follow the kid into adulthood.
(Ask me how I know. ABA is horrendous!)
@@restingwitchfacetarot605 This! And the worst part is that apparently a lot of insurance companies will only pay for ABA, so parents are mislead into thinking it's good.
As a person who has attempted suicide, using suicide of a person to sell a product is just ..... EVIL
I’m so glad you’re here. Ya that was disgusting. It triggered me too because of a family member who’s attempting a couple of times (to my knowledge). It’s brutal. Not something to exploit.
Morality police here
I've also attempted and so have multiple of my close friends. I can guarantee an mlm supplement would not have fixed my complex trauma
Same. Wishing you the best.
@@espada0687 so glad you're still here❤
“You know those clothes be stinking” 🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
I came here to say the same thing 😅😅😅 I cackled
I can imagine how bad the socks and underwear are!
I busted out laughing !!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣
😂
If kangen water can replace laundry detergent, why would I drink it? Is this just the MLM equivalent of the tide pod challenge?
Great question!!
It said it made it 11.5ph water. Thats the same ph as ammonia. That could ruin your clothes if you poured it onto them. And drinking it would upset the acid balance in your gut- it can make you really sick!
And all that without the satisfying pop of the pod! Taking the fun out of eating “laundry detergent” 🤣😉
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This!!!!! I never thought of that until you said this!
"medical grade water" do they think hospitals don't have taps 😂
I just think of distilled water lol and you're not suppose to drink that
Hahaha this comment made me cackle 😂😂
It's actually called Sterile Water and it does exist in hospitals as, wait for it, sterile medical grade water! Shocking, I know.
I get my medical grade water out of the kettle = sterilized right?
Distilled probably
As a mother with boy children, PLEASE do not wash your clothes in water only 😂😂😂 these boys SMELL LIKE CORN CHIPS after one day!!! Water is not gonna cut it 🥲
Corn chips!! Buahahaha
Mine smells like spoiled milk and ketchup
@@TeddyPalf this is too accurate my baby brothers were always old ketchupy and curdled 😂 theres only so much you can do with wipes
Oddly when small dogs sleep really hard-they smell like Fritos! I have to soak their cold weather sweaters….ew..
Ah yes......the " Frito feet!"
I was reading the long caption and it threw me off because she kept saying fighter flight ! It’s fight or flight! So I don’t think I’m taking any of her advice after that
Honestly...just as upsetting...😢
Same! It was making me irrationally annoyed every time I saw it. xD I get different people have different levels of education (god knows it took me FAR too long to learn it was "for all intents and purposes", not "for all intensive purposes") but if someone is trying to present themselves as a source of information about a topic, I expect them to get the name of the topic correct!
@@puzzlechick163 I absolutely couldn’t agree more!
I literally said the same thing 😅
Does she think stress turns you into an F-22?
You know what’s really funny is everytime these huns bring up “detoxing” they can’t even name these so called “toxins” that are being removed from your body lol
Dihydrogen monoxide 😂
@@jerrystauffer2351omg that stuff is scary! It can kill you! Drowning happens!
The toxic ones!
Sugar. Their bodies don’t require glucose like the rest of us sickly sheep.
This whole "everyone has the same 24 hours in a day" cracks me up. I have a full time job but my children are grown and on their own and my only grandchild lives 5000 miles away from me. At home it's me, my husband, our cat and his birds. I guarantee that my 24 hours look incredibly different than a single mom with a full time job and 5 kids at home.
Then there's the Spoon Theory for disabled/chronically ill people, where a handful of spoons represents the hours in a day and you take away one at a time until you're at zero or negative and you still haven't done anything beyond getting out of bed. Plus, if you do have a productive day, you'll crash tomorrow. And MLMs prey on us all the time.
@@maryeckel9682 🙌🫶👏THANK YOU for saying this! I am chronically ill and have approx 4 highly active hours per day max. Usable hours per day with consideration of rationing and pacing are rarely ever factored in by ableds who say “we all have the same # of hours per day”
I definitely agree. 24 hours is not the same for everybody while everybody is alive and functioning for 24 hours if you’re a millionaire, you may have people in cooking and cleaning your house while you sat by the pool all day like you said your situation you have your animals yes you’re taking care of them and have things to do for them but your day is definitely a lot different than like you said a single mother with five kids, some people are working two jobs even though they’re single just to be able to afford rent with all the inflation right now. some people have illnesses back injuries where sometimes it may take you half the day to even be able to get up and start moving around. I cannot stand when people say that to others people with insomnia because your body hasn’t rested yeah you had the same 24 hours, but you can’t hardly function because your brain can’t hardly work because you’ve been awake for days at a time.
@@maryeckel9682 Especially ND (neurodivergent) people, smh
The point is that we've all got the same 24 hours. The problem is that the Internet is populated by depressed people who get mad whenever anyone is positive or happy. I see this all the time online. Too many sad demons trying to bring everyone else down.
The thing with the "read more in caption" thing is that they often make super short reels with zero information and super long captions so that while you read that the reels plays over and over in the background farming insane amounts of views...
Can you pause them?
@@maryeckel9682the only way to pause is to hold the screen down. The most you can do is turn the sound off so the song isn’t on repeat. They’re getting soooooo many views
@@maryeckel9682
you can.
My curiosity is, does paused time still equal time?
Not on instagram. You can mute Instagram shorts but not pause them
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I have a friend whose son is autistic. His parents began intensive therapy for him when he was just a toddler and while it was a struggle both emotionally and financially, this young man is now 25 years old, a college graduate and living in his own apartment. Therapy often works. Magic pills do not exist.
That's good to hear. I worry so much for my autistic son. He's in various therapy programs and sees a psychiatrist regularly and take his meds daily. But I worry so much about him. It's always good to hear things like this, so thank you for your comment.
It really does depend on the individual and the therapy and the therapist. Some therapies like ABA can be extremely traumatising for autistic people. It forces us to mask, not manage autistic traits and needs. I received no therapy and I seemed complete stable at 25. I had finished my degree, Cumme laude. On my way to a highly competitive and exhausting post grad program. I had a respectable office job with the municipality, job and a life and by all measures I was doing well. Then I hit my 30s and I burned out. Like explosive flames burnout. I had no skills to manage my autistic needs.
The university I work for trains therapists and invests $$$ in autism research and support programmes (parents and children). To say all those hard working academics can just be replaced with some oil is beyond insulting
@@Michelalayes exactly. It's not because we're "successful" by neurotypical standards that were doing well and healthy. Not dismissing the achievements or the benefits of what these individuals have gained from therapies, but we really have to be cautious about which expectations we put on neurodivergent and disabled people.
sorry, i don't understand what you mean by that. should the expectations we place on neurodivergent people be less than that of neurotypical ppl? like, we shouldn't expect or strive for the same level of successful for ND children? @ragdollrose2687
I'm a little surprised that the Kangen people haven't started calling water "dihydrogen monoxide" to sound smarter. 😂
IF my water was magical enough to take the place of my laundry detergent, I'm curious how it's also safe to consume.
“Washing” with water only has me doubled over in laughter!! 😆
I especially loved the #sourdough and #homecooking in the caption 😭 just why hahahah
You mean you don’t want to wear underwear that has just been sloshed around in water and dried? The other bad part is that if you have funky gym clothes, the heat from the dryer just bakes the funk in. At least put some baking soda in there. I prefer vinegar, but that would counteract the alkalinity of their miracle water. 🙄
You should talk to my husband then, you'd be rolling on the floor. He 'washes his hands without soap and tells me it's good because he used hot water. I'm legit wondering if I need to get him assessed.
@@42aylaomg I think an order of Petri dishes should be on your next Amazon order 😂
Washing your laundry occasionally in just water can actually be helpful to rinse off laundry soap buildup, but not all the time
I'm a former special needs teacher, and an Autistic person. We are not "broken" or "sick", we do not need to be fixed or to "get better". Thank you Hannah for bringing attention to these predatory MLM sellers who do far more harm than good.
(sorry for the length, I'm terrible at short and sweet - just ignore this if you don't want to read a novella)
I have to ask... why is it bad to want to not be autistic? I am asking this because my teenage son is autistic. He's spent weeks in a psych ward and his autism prevents him from many things. We are doing absolutely everything his care team suggests to try to help him the best possible quality of life and help him be a productive member of society, but his autism is pretty... harsh. I have asked him about it and he's wished for a cure and honestly, as I watch him struggle, I wish for one, too. That doesn't mean I hate autistic people or want them to disappear, however. Yet expressing a thought like mine is considered "bad" and I don't understand why. I'm disabled and mostly bedbound/confined to a wheelchair and wish hard that I had a cure for my various illnesses, yet no one has told me I should be ashamed for wanting that. I wish there were cures for various mental illnesses. My brother died and his schizoaffective disorder contributed to it. I also wish there was a cure for that, too. Yet I was shamed for it. Why? I genuinely don't understand. I am diagnosed with depression, and would love a cure for that, as well.
Please understand that this does not mean that I hate people who struggle with these things; I do not. But watching my son struggle so much and cry and have to be hospitalized and basically have no IRL friends makes me wish that he didn't have to go through life on Hard Mode like he is. Same with my daughter who has diagnosed Tourette's and OCD. She's also expressed a desire for a cure for her issues and for her brother. If there was a cure, I would never say that it MUST be taken by every autistic person but even expressing a desire for them (medical professionals/scientists) to look for a cure gives you significant backlash and I genuinely cannot comprehend why. I am also not saying that YOU need to be cured, either. But for those who do wish that they didn't have to struggle with it... like, even my son was "yelled at" over the internet for expressing a desire for a cure for his autism. I told him there is nothing wrong with wanting that and not to listen to those people because only he truly understands how bad it is for him and he's perfectly valid in wanting that for himself. The last time I expressed this (after my son tried to take his own life), I was called a horrible person and a horrible mother and that somehow I'm in favor of genocide - which is beyond absurd and disgusting.
I'd take a cure for being able to walk again, but I know not everyone would. But it would be nice for the option. Same for mental illnesses and other neurodivergences - especially if they seriously interfere with your QoL, you know? Again, I am not saying I want you or anyone to disappear, but the option for a cure for those who want it... it'd be nice. And if my son didn't wish for the same thing and I saw how much he struggled with it, I doubt I'd think this at all as I wouldn't have experience with it. It's not taboo to want to cure your physical ailments, but for some reason it is for mental ones, even though those can seriously impact your life in the negative - like my brother's did and currently, my son. And I've never understood it. Either way, I love my children and would do anything to help them succeed in life. Autism or not.
I'm a person with autism myself. I say that, because while we are not broken or sick in the traditional sense, I don't view my autism as a benefit in my life, and it's usually actively a harm to it. Because it's a spectrum, how functional one is will vary. If you're high functioning, then you're probably going to have an easier time than someone who isn't. We agree that exploiting the fear of people regarding autism is sinister. But I would disagree on the fixing. If there were a cure, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
@@olgs37your feelings are valid, folks get on the internet and say anything. A kid that’s 7 years old before he/she can be potty trained has a right to wish things were different. It’s not unreasonable for parents of autistic children to wish or hope or (God forbid) try for healthier outcomes for their children. Please don’t let internet nonsense impair your ability to reason, you are not wrong for hoping, praying or trying for better health for yourself or your child. Prayers up for you and your family 🙏🏾
@@olgs37 I understand your feelings, and there is nothing wrong with wanting the best for your loved ones or yourself. How a person feels about their own condition is their business. That is different to telling a community of people with vastly varying levels of ability that they are all sick or broken. It's very different to offering "cures" that at best are snake oil and at worst are toxic. We cannot change who we are or how our brains process the world and its stimuli. We can only try to have the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
@@voodoochile4147 Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response. I really appreciate it. Husband and I do whatever Son's psych and therapists suggest and would never even consider pseudoscience as a way of "helping". It's so hard watching him struggle with being unable to regulate his emotions and not understanding society as a whole. He's such a smart kid, but he struggles so, so much that at times he doesn't want to live and I would do anything to help free him from those distressing thoughts. As it is, we're just following what his care team says is for the best and hope that he'll be able to learn to live his life on Hard Mode. I just wish he didn't have to. I already do that and the thought of my kid having to do that, but for different reasons, is hard to manage.
I have a 9-5 government job. At this point I work from home, am able to flex my schedule, have a good salary, time off, have health insurance, and have a pension. MLM? No thank yu.
Same! I also get to actually RELAX on my off time and I don't have to be tied to my phone
Pretty much the same here! But I work for an insurance company. I can start my day within a 2 hour window which means I don't have to use PTO for an appointment, I'll just start early. But I also have PTO! I also own stock in the company so I get extra rewarded when we do well as a whole, but I have my paycheck every two weeks no matter what. Why would I trade that to PAY a company to work for them ??
Same! I love my boring government job. To bring it around to another section of the video, it’s great for me as an autistic person!
For real. My government job allows me to work four 10-hour days a week from home, I'll get 3-months of paid maternity leave, and I get a sense of job satisfaction knowing I'm preventing people from getting evicted. I'd never get any of that shilling shampoo or oils.
Same here, 3 days teleworking, and all the rest. It is rather 9 to whatever time I have no strength to go on but I have to because of deadlines, though 😕 bur at least I am sure the time I invest will pay off and I am working for the citizens!
The thing that really gets me about the high pH water being used as detergent is that you can’t just magically raise (or lower) water’s pH without adding something to it. And 11.5 is HIGH (water is usually around 6.5-8, and the average laundry detergent doesn’t usually go above 10). So, if it *is* in fact raising the pH that much (someone needs to get those pH test strips and test this tbh, bc it could be doing nothing at all), the only way it could achieve a pH that high is by actively adding a highly basic substance to the water. At which point it isn’t “just water” is it?
Also should maybe be obvious but low pH isn’t necessarily what makes detergents and cleaners effective, anyway. It has more to do with how those chemicals are able to interact with lipids and other grime, something water just can’t do on its own bc it’s naturally lipophobic.
And to add to that, let's say we trust that the water is actually just water, and it's actually at a pH of 11.5. Once you dilute it with 40 gallons of standard water from the laundry machine, IT'S JUST WATER
@@cgmeyothat's the best part for me. She's so scientifically illiterate.
@@cgmeyo I assumed she had plumbed washer to the machine, like they do with showers - but was listening not watching
I agree 100% on not sharing kids on social media. They can't consent
... and when they say the kids have consented I never believe them even if the kids themselves are saying it. After reading Brittney Spear's book and everything about The Duggars ... and the fact that there's dynamic between kids and their caregivers regardless which is always unequal.
Hannah, you're one of the most respectful and kind creators. I've never been offended by the language you use, and I say that as an autistic human. And I appreciate your words about us not needing to be fixed. My Autism is an inherent part of me, and makes me the phenomenal counselor and human that I am. That same autism is also what led me down the special interest rabbit hole of anti-mlm/anti-scam that started because you popped up on my algorithm 😊
Because she's sent me down a worm hole, and I'm highkey having so much fun. Now I just need to find my victim to info dump this on
Hope you don't mind my asking. You said human twice, which is implied by the fact that youre even typing. Is 'person' now a controversial word, or is this just a colliquial choice? I mean this as a genuine question, no shade
@terricox3559 i don't mind at all! It's a colloquial choice for me. It may also be affected by the amount of fantasy books I read if I'm being completely honest😂 as far as I'm aware, person doesn't have negative connotations. Human is just one of my own language quirks.
Currently home from my 9-5 on paid sick time because I have a cold, and am trying to keep that shit to myself. If I were in an MLM, I'd have to girlboss hustle through, whereas now I can recover without worrying about it affecting my next paycheck. This is my first big girl salaried job, and honestly, after so many years of working retail and short-term contracts, I'm so grateful to be in a place where I don't have to work sick, or choose between resting or paying rent. 9-5s aren't for everyone, but I genuinely love mine.
Home sick & PAID✅️
LOVE MY JOB✅️
Not worried about hustling & lying to people to "make my rank"✅️
But, you know, poor ME😂
@@laketac Truly having a rough time out here with my work-life balance, pension, and benefits. Also, any training I need for my job is paid for, and I get paid while doing it.
Hi guys! Biochemistry student here! I'll explain the science from the post at 13:30 for anyone interested.
Water ionizer- it doesn't make sense because if you put salt in water, the salt becomes ions. So water itself is "an ionzier". And water also "ionizes" itself all the time like this: H2O -> H+ and -OH , so no need for a machine.
Molecular hydrogen rich water- This is impossible. Molecular hydrogen also known as "hydrogen gas" or "H2". It would no longer be molecular if you mixed it with water. It would react and the whole thing would become acidic water. The simplest definition of "acid" is "more hydrogen then there's supposed to be". Molecular hydrogen can be dangerous and can explode in contact with air.
Anti-oxidant rich- Well, hard to say what this would be like, it depends on which anti-oxidant we are talking about. Some examples are vitamin A , C and E. But what's hilarious is that anti-oxidants actually stops ionization from occurring. In other words, if you stop hydrogens from splitting off from their molecules and becoming their own ion, then you are an antioxidant. Antioxidants are usually big molecules and the water would probably become gunky and opaque.
Medical grade water- It is extra clean water used to sterilize things at the hospital. This water wouldn't be medical grade because there are anti-oxidants in it! But even if there were no anti-oxidants, it would easily become non sterile as soon as it touches anything, including regular air.
Electrolysis- No, that is just outrageous. Electrolysis is basically a complicated way to turn water into gas. But not just regular H2O steam, but split up in to oxygen and hydrogen gas. This is a chemical technique done in a lab, and it will explode unless you know what you are doing! So about pH; pH juste means how acidic or basic something is, in other words "how many extra hydrogen atoms are there?" or "How many hydrogen atoms are missing?" Where a pH of 7 means it's perfectly in the middle. When preforming an electrolysis you can get a difference in pH over time, and in separated areas of the water. What pH we would get depends on what type of electrolysis we do. Sounds technical? IT IS.
11,5 pH - That is just as basic as bleach. None of the things mentioned above would cause water to become that extremely basic (remember basic menas lack of hydrogen atoms). If you want something to get a particular pH you can't just turn a dial on a machine!
Oil emulsification- means oil and water are mixed really well. At this point I don't know anymore.
A 'hydrogen rich' substance of 11.5 pH.....
@@meganking3314 Haha! Right! So many contradictions.
Thanks for the details! Makes it extra clear how stupid this person is and who much nonsense her claims are pol
Assuming it is actually doing something to the water. Wouldn't water with that kind of PH level be at least bordering on caustic? Going by what I remember of high school chemistry but a PH of 11.5 would be somewhere equivalent to ammonia.
@@certs743 Yes! And even less basic substances than pH 11 can leave chemical burns depending on how long your skin is in contact with the substance. Like leaving laundry detergent on your skin would leave a mark. If you got something with pH 11 in your eyes it would be really bad.
That first story... my god. Using trauma to sell you something is completely abhorrent 😢
My partner told me yesterday that all the women I listen to sound the same... I don't know how to tell him it's because I have been binging the MLM horror stories for 3 days straight 🤣😭
It’s such a fascinating topic on so many levels. I get sucked into the rabbit hole on these anti-mlm videos too.
I was listening to one of Hannah's videos while driving home from campus the other day, past the same group of warehouses I always drive by. Imagine my shock when I noticed the side of one of the warehouses said "Arbonne" 🤯 I did a serious double take. I discovered this channel about a month ago, but I think it's possible that Arbonne warehouse has been there for years and I just never noticed until I drove by *while* listening to one of Hannah's videos. 😂
That’s crazy!! Ground zero right along your commute hahaha Yeah watching her videos just recently as well has made me realize how close I’ve been to multiple different MLM’s in my lifetime lol I’m now realizing that my mom probably did like at least two or three of them and I just never realized it😂 And we were poor my mom really couldn’t afford to sell exactly the target audience I suppose😅 also I have a group of friends that are all into the alternative health or healing field and I think As a group they’ve probably had their hands in at least three or four of them😅 luckily they’re all like 10 or 12 years older than me (friends of older sister) so they never tried to rope me into it back then lol I’ve definitely got quite a collection of young living that’s been given to me, now I understand why they gave them to me they probably had so much of it laying around😅
I'm a psychologist the autism claims are insane. People will literally rely on anything whether it's a supplement or zodiac signs to try to figure out their mental health but consult a professional who does scientific evidence-based treatments. Even worse if you're responsible for a child and subjecting them to those alternative treatments that can even make things worse. Insanity.
I’m autistic and working on my masters in psychology and honestly even some of my professors are grossly ableist and don’t read any new information when it comes to autistic people.
It’s annoying at the least, and harmful to perpetuate some of these old ideas at most
@@restingwitchfacetarot605 That's absolutely true, there are also some specific therapies which some therapists ascribe to that can be harmful especially in autism. I've heard it all, from blaming the parents to blaming vaccines. Some people are just really stupid and they can happen to be licensed psychologists. Or psychiatrists. 🤣
Also an autistic here that has a psyc background with a social work degree working on my masters. I work in communities and with a lot of families. The amount of parents, who are most likely autistic themselves due to the high hereditary components, that make excuses for their child being autistic or "cure" them is honestly shocking to me. I don't understand why it is so hard to believe and damned so much??
In my completely uneducated opinion, people chase these unproven methods to give themselves a sense of control over their situation. They likely feel lost and overwhelmed and any instagram post promising them that they can cure their child at home is exploiting their vulnerability. It makes me sad and I wish social media platforms did more to quash misinformation.
Personally I LOVE LOVE LOVE my desk job. I love predictability, I love stability, I love having my own space.
I love having no responsibility. I mean responsibility to get To work at my job done but not the responsibility of something failing and I lose my house. I am just there to make money and go home and live my life.
I’m so grossed out about the “water” detergent 😳 My husband and kids play a lot of sports… Can you even image how we and our house would smell? We also have two bulldogs. Yuck!
I love what you said about autism, my son is autistic. It is not something to be fixed, but something to learn to understand. Therapy and medication can be used to help the person who has autism navigate the world easier, not for those around the autistic person to feel more comfortable.
As an autistic human… it depends on the therapy. ABA, for example can make children more manageable and compliant… but there’s a lot of trauma happening that neurotypical people don’t understand that can follow the kid into adulthood.
(Ask me how I know. ABA is horrendous!)
@@restingwitchfacetarot605 I didn't know that, I am sorry you experienced that. I feel any help should be for the autistic person's sake. There is nothing wrong with someone who has autism, they experience the world differently and it comes with its own strengths and weaknesses. It is difficult for all involved, that is why is takes work to understand each other and help each other.
@@restingwitchfacetarot605I used to work with kids with autism, and so many people PUSH ABA. I was an AAC SLP, and I hated watching anyone do it- it’s a child, not a trained seal! I got into difficult conversations with other professionals who were adamant that it was the ‘only’ way. I much preferred child centred therapies, and I think they work much better. I haven’t heard an adult say that they found ABA traumatic, but I’m unfortunately not surprised. I’m sorry you had to go through that.
I used to run my own business with my husband. We used to joke "you can choose the hours you want to work, you just get to pick which 12 hours you work in a day" I always felt that mlms fall into a similar category, you're constantly working otherwise you can't make any money.
Thank you for actively educating yourself on issues in the autistic community and uplifting our voices. It’s what we’re always begging for and this is a great example.
Someone in my family tried to commit "S" and we still feel the effects from that today. I cannot imagine using that trauma as a way to sell my mlm crap. Truly disgusting!
There's a mandatory cooling off period for direct sales and MLM. 3 days, doesn't matter if the person has signed and paid. If they change their mind within 3 days afterwards they are entitled to a full refund and cancellation of the contract. When this law was introduced in Australia it virtually brought an end to direct sales and MLM pitches because over 90% of signups would just cancel. The USA has the same law from the FTC so why doesn't anyone there seem to know about it?
I was just talking to my therapist about the prolonged effects of being in a near constant state of of fight/flight/freeze/fawn. It can really mess with your body over time causing lots of problems. Best tips from a actual licensed professional is try to move your body a bit more to relieve tension, socialize with loved ones, do something creative, seek out physical touch/cuddle with pets, and laugh. Notice none of these suggestions involve buying a mlm product most are free to do and very beneficial and scientifically proven. Hope that helps!
The fact that she typed it as “fighter flight” and not “fight OR flight” cracks me up. I’m a jerk, but it’s the little things.
Seriously, this is the comment I was looking for. Especially because she wrote it that way more than once lol.
I live in a farming community in the Midwest. A bearded older man came into the store wearing a black Arbonne shirt. Not that men can't get into MLMs, but this was obviously a tough farmer guy! I tried to stifle my laughter as I wondered if his wife made him wear the shirt or does this tough guy sell Arbonne with monosyllabic grunts?
Probably paid fifty cents for it at Goodwill and doesn't know what Arbonne is
@@jerrystauffer2351good point! Thrifts get all kinds of corporate tees.
He got it in a bag of shirts from Goodwill lol
Mrh.
My friend joined Arbonne, even though I sent her your deep dive on it and warned her. She just got her forms back for taxes and she spent $4k on the “business” and made like $300. Which is a huge loss for someone who already struggles with finances. She says she didn’t make money because she wasn’t working hard enough. I keep telling her about the business structure and how it is designed for her to fail. We don’t let it get in the way of our friendship, but I hope she wakes up soon before she wastes more time and money on Arbonne.
Not the Enagic consultant pouring her expensive water into her washing machine that is hooked up to her house plumbing which uses tap water anyways 😆
My mum and sister are autistic and I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the effort you go to to use the correct terminology ❤
The water one made me actually laugh out loud 😂 I could go on and on about how literally every single „technical“ term she used in her caption is used extremely wrong in that context and she definitely has no clue what any of those adjectives mean but hey… I’m but a simple chemist, what do I know 🤷🏻♀️😂
Also, amazing video as always, Hannah! 🙈❤️
I was out shopping with a friend the other day, and she was excitedly telling me about “hydrogen-enriched water” that was giving her “so many benefits.” I said, “if there’s extra hydrogen in your water, then it’s not water. The molecular structure would have to change, and I think your water might explode!” She laughed a little nervously and changed the subject. She’s a teacher!! She should know better! I’m just a humble English major…what do I know 🤦♀️😂
Pretty sure extra hydrogen in water is hydrogen peroxide lolol H2O2
@@clarissataylor1597 I mean, that might as well be a lucky coincidence if there’s any hydrogen peroxide in there (as far as desinfecting properties go), however I wouldn’t be calling that liquid water and advertising it as such by any means… 🥴😂
@@marlenekristin6730 that’s both funny and kinda sad, honestly 😅 but what do we know, right? 😉
@@clarissataylor1597 that is extra Oxygen
THE GRAVITY OF YOU GIVING CONTEXT OF HER FOLLOWERS TO NFL STADIUMS MADE MY HAIRS STAND ON END WOOOOOOOOWWWWW 😮
new to numbers?
Right!; gave me goosebumps actually imagining the scale of it.
my jaw DROPPED when u said that water machine costs $5000💀 on a side note, love how u actually did the math to show how that woman's claim that it "saves money" is false. it's so simple but it shifted my perspective on how to critically engage with sales content!
Water ..... the washer already gives you water while washing your clothes lol
Is she high?
I’ve always loved your content but this is a new level of THANKYOU for this being on the internet. So many of my mom friends think I’m crazy for not posting my kids on social, not posting any details, not sharing their face, etc. So thank you for always protecting people’s privacy and especially those who can’t speak for themselves ❤
Don’t listen to them. You’re doing great. Never ever post your kids online.
I am the same way! I don’t share ANYTHING about my kids online. Friends and family that actually know my kids get sent pictures privately, why would anyone expose their kids to strangers on the internet?!
thank you for keeping your kids' digital footprint as small as possible! they will be able to have the knowledge to be safer online & in control of their info, because once it's out there, it's OUT there. you are such a blessing.
especially seeing these people who all their content is their kids, multiple posts a day, with evidence of these vids being DOWNLOADED. now why does a stranger need to download vids of kids playing, eating, etc etc? it's so fucked up. kids should not be a product for profit in the first place, & there is so much evidence that they're being digitally sexually assaulted. anyone doing this to their kids need to have their accounts permabanned.
As a science teacher, seeing the kangen water posts drives me insane! I have a lady who always posts about it. I show the posts in my class and we break down the jargon that they use. Myself and some other science teachers have a good laugh about how absurd they are.
as an autistic person who loves ur content, tysm for updating ur language!! i use person first and identity first interchangeably, but it says a lot that you researched and chose to listen to the autism community :)
Why can't u leave the word autistic out. Ur just a person just like everyone else. No need to announce it
@@s.r6331 yeah ik i'm a person haha and i actually have a ton of shame around the diagnosis so i don't usually share it. i use autistic or person with autism when it is relevant to refer to the kids i work with.
21:21 have we learnt NOTHING from Rachel Hollis being #relatable ?!
“medical-grade water” 😆
As an autistic woman, THANK YOU for listening to the autistic community, and not hate organizations like Autism Speaks, regarding identity first language. Some individuals may prefer person first language ("with autism"), but that's up to the individual (not their parent, and definitely not their ABA-centered "therapist" 🤮).
Just wanted to comment the same but you already did. ❤
Came here to say this as an autistic human. Thank you so much
Not familiar with autism speaks other than I’ve heard the name, why is it considered a hate organization?
I saw a docushow called Love on the Dpectrum.. and in the show the protagonists addressed themselves as "on the spectrum" ... What is your take on it Alanna ??
Seconded!
Maybe that’s her secret, she does her laundry 4x a day and just by rinsing it that much it gets the smells out 😂
We buy detergent at Costco, and buy one or two jugs a YEAR. 🤣
I'm a 31 year old autistic woman. I have been through pretty much every (safe and sane) treatment, including the whole "gut health" healing diets growing up. The only thing that has actually helped me is medication and hours of therapy. I don't blame my mom for trying different treatments but ultimately science proves therapy and meds actually work.
Im a teacher, not exactly 9 to 5, but close. A student told me today she hopes I can see her walk at graduation (I'm going for sure) and nothing, no MLM no amount of money, could replace that feeling. 🥺
I have been personally affected by a tragic death in my husband's family, and I'm also the mom of an amazing autistic son, so this arbonne lady makes me absolutely sick. People in either of those situations are sometimes so desperate for relief or change that they'll do ANYTHING, including spending money on useless garbage like these products. Shame on her for exploiting her deceased sister and her child to try and make a buck.
Those clothes be stinkin' 😂😂
And scientifically speaking, hot water still has that surface tension. Water with detergent gets rid of said surface tension. It makes water wetter. Hence why you should use a detergent to clean.
When you become such a RUclipsr that people start clicking the Like button before even watching your video! ❤
BecUse we KNOW it's a Grade A video before watching because it's HANNAH🤗❤️
@@laketac Exactly!
It's always gonna be good!
Because a Hannah video is guaranteed to be good, and if I do t click at the beginning I might forget.
ive been watching you for awhile (you introduced me to anti-mlm content actually!), and youve always been my favorite for how respectful and professional you are in all of your videos! and as an autistic person, im even more convinced you're truly my favorite on the scene of anti-mlm content! i deeply appreciate how empathetic you are in your research, and how much you strive to improve yourself! i really respect that, and thanks again for another vid! 😊
I completely agree. I found this channel very recently and have been greatly struck by your even-handedly, empathetic analysis. Your compassion for those ensnared by these schemes is also a wonderful quality, while not letting them away with unethical behaviour. A pleasure to listen to.
The cackle that left my body when she just poured water on the clothes, I can'ttttt
I need "you know them clothes be stinking" on a T-shirt 🤣
“Fighter flight” mode is killing mw
I am very disappointed at the woman who used her sister's tragedy as a source of sales revenue for her MLM. She missed the opportunity to make sales AT her sister's funeral. Many people at funerals are sad and, fortunately, very vulnerable to high pressure sales. Seize the opportunity boss babes! I want to share with you several life hacks I have successfully employed. Surface space in funeral homes can be limited, and so, I have found that simply closing the casket lid will free up a great deal of space to display your products. For those of you who sell make-up, why not consider using the corpse as your "pallette" to demo your products.
Agreed, she needed to hustle harder. Missed opportunities.
Omfg 😂
My cousin tried to sell me Monat at our grandfather's funeral. This man was my father-figure and raised me alongside my mother, so he was essentially my father. To her, he was just her grandfather. But she had to make a sale, I guess...
I tried selling Cutco Knives at my grandson's bris (ritual circumcision) as I thought the knife theme fit well with the occassion. The Rabbi (mohel) bought a filet knife but I did not have the courage to ask him what he was going to use it for.
I’m autistic and truly I personally don’t care. I’m just autistic, it’s not a disease, it’s not an illness, I’m just autistic. I’m an autistic person, someone who has autism, I’m just a person at the end of the day. I don’t see either as offensive because having autism isn’t offensive
I was a pediatric nurse for 27 years and I was always taught the correct thing to was a person with diabetes not a diabetic person. When I was a high school nurse, several of my students came to me, asking if they could talk to me. They asked me to call them autistic. We talked about it and I understood what they were saying. I asked if I could write their parents a letter and they agreed. I sent letters home, explaining our conversations and the parents loved it! Since that day, I have autistic kiddos in my building.
Why did they want to be called autistic? Times have changed. I remember when we didn't want labels or want anyone to know what "issues" we had. I still don't. Nobody knows anything, because I don't need a label nor need to be treated special.
Lmao the peanut butter video 😂😂 I hope you can laugh at it now but I can imagine I’d be flipping tables during the moment!
Another point against the anti 9-5 talking point hunbots love to use: I don't want to be my own boss. I don't want to be my own CEO. I want to go to a job, earn a paycheck and then go home. Not everybody wants to have the pressure and risk of "being their own boss/CEO". Some people just want to earn a paycheck and go home.
But yet they aren't their own boss or a CEO because the companies they are contractors through have a CEO and technically their up line is their boss lol!
How do people fall for MLM's and other scams? I just can't comprehend this.
It’s easier than you think. I did. & I tried to research on the internet, double checked what I could find, but I didn’t have enough knowledge to understand it all. All I wanted was to make an extra $500 a month, & help people. I had zero desire to build a team, get rich or anything like that. I hadn’t found all the anti-MLM channels on RUclips…
Some people are very naive, gullible, and have no good options to get a real job at some point in their life. MLM loves to target moms , old people, disabled people, desperate people, and people who don't speak English very well, etc.
The mom in the video with autistic child, in real life, she probably can not hold an actual job because her son needs a lot of attention and may be 100% of her time. But people need money, they are grasping for straws . The other case is when people know it is a scam and knowingly scam other people.
Desperation.
I have a 130 IQ and I almost fell for one when I was homeless in my 20s
it's not hard to imagine when a lot of people first get introduced to these products in a desperate attempt to help themselves or a loved on who is struggling with their mental/physical health or diagnosis that isn't being helped by doctors and they just want a way to fix it when everything else has failed them. In a way it makes it even sadder because MLM's often target these people in their desperation
Desperate and vulnerable. Easy prey
I am an autistic person. But I dont get offended by ”person with autism”, because in my opinion it is extremely petty for anyone to get offended by something so irrelevant.
You are doing great. Thank you. ❤️
Many people work 9 to 5 jobs while having side businesses, taking classes and doing creative things. Traditional jobs have steady paychecks and health benefits. You don't have to give up your dreams when you take a 9 to 5 job. That job can help you financially pursue those dreams.
As an autistic person, it’s disgusting hearing about the woman trying to “cure” her son’s autism with food and supplements. Like you said, it’s not something to be cured, it’s a part of us. And thank you for taking the time to listen to us about that terms to use. I personally don’t mind either term, but makes me happy to know that someone cares! Thank you Hannah!❤
It always makes me so sad because instead of educating herself and putting in effort to understand her child, she would rather make her child feel as if they are a problem that needs to be “fixed.”
I have many autistic friends, and wouldn't change them for the world. The "need" to fix autistic children is just sad.
Being able to deeply focus on a task is kind of superpower
@@martabanasiewicz6353unless it’s at the expense of yours or others safety.
I lost my 33 year old sister from suicide in 2019. I suffer from bad anxiety and panic attacks ever since. The body goes into constant fight or flight mode NOT fighter flight 🤦♀️ Using her sister’s death to make money is evil 😢
That error was so annoying to me too, on top of all the shady stuff. I'm so sorry for the loss of your sister. Sending you love. ❤
Holy... wow. If I liked you before for your anti-MLM content, I _really_ like and respect you now for how well you handled this. That was the most honest, genuine apology I think I've *ever* seen coming from a RUclipsr, and you didn't tale it personally when people pointed out your mistake. People could really learn something just by watching how you handled that SO gracefully.
This video comes on a great today because I took a sick day today. I'm on my period, have a ton of housework to get done, it's beautiful outside, and I'm exhausted. Guess what? I'm STILL GETTING PAID lol We have staff to cover my absence and I have many days of paid sick leave available. I actually like my job, but also sometimes I need a day to relax. As an American, I feel like I am under extreme pressure to be productive at all times and I am very grateful for the workplace rights we do have (though its still not enough imo). MLMers can't do this. They cannot turn off their phones and just chill or they risk losing everything. MLMs aren't the antithesis of corporate America. They are the DREAM of corporate America. People who are so brainwashed by their company that they will work 18+ hours a day, skip major life events, ignore health concerns, disregard their families in order to serve all while making less than minimum wage. They are the embodiment of what the workplace would be without the past 100 years of work reform. Its honestly depressing.
Everytime i see someone using autism to sell MLM products I want to throw chairs. I challenge a hun to try and say it to my face, I promise I won’t react well 🤣
My son and I’s autism doesn’t need to be cured, we find things that work for us and we make this world as liveable for us as we can.
My son has autism and therapy helped him in so many ways. But I love the way his brain operates and thinks. He has the best personality and is such an awesome human being. Nothing needs to be fixed!
My daughter is as well and I agree 100%. She's the coolest person I know. Sending love to you and your wonderful boy. ❤
Hi, im someone who has autism. And I just wanted to let you know that most importantly I am not offended by either way you chose to address people with autism. But I did want to say I appreciate how you address that it is not a "problem" or something that needs "fixed". That alone is very helpful to the community and people who might who might have only heard it spoken about in a negative way ❤
I really appreciate how clearly you explain and articulate in your videos and how you support your reactions with real calculations. It's not a lazy reaction video and it shows. I can imagine you covering so many more topics in ways that are easy to understand
My partner and I work "9-5" jobs, but the hours are actually flexible, and we both get benefits. Some months are more work than others, buy we still get vacation. Also, we both work from home. MLMs telling people that there's only mlm vs "other" jobs is toxic, ignorant, and makes people believe they can't find a way to both pay their bills, and enjoy life.
I actually rewatched 3 times the water washing part because I couldn’t comprehend what I was hearing! Oh myyy…. Why didn’t I think of that?!? Washing with detergent all my life instead of just using purified water and saving all that money!? I’m so stupid!
The weird digestion/autism connection the woman is making goes back to the original research paper that linked autism with vaccines which we all know was discredited. But in that same article there is random linkings to the autistic children and having gastrointestinal disease. It’s honestly a really bad research paper. But this is where all that GI and autism stuff comes from.
Autism is actually associated with higher rates of digestive issues for reasons we don't fully understand. This peculiarity has led to all kinds of spurious connections, for example that time PETA insinuated that going dairy-free could prevent or cure autism based on one study that found that some autistic children became less distressed/symptomatic when they went on a dairy-free diet. Most likely those kids were simply sensitive to lactose and felt better when their tummies didn't hurt!
@@larissabrglum3856 if you have research on it I’d love to see but the the only “research” I’ve seen on this topic is from the aforementioned research paper which is false.
Me, my brother, my father, my grandfather, and likely even more of my family in the past, are autistic. I can't speak for everyone under this umbrella, of course, but I will say that I appreciate your language and sentiment even when it's not flawless. My family has spent the last few decades learning and updating our language; it's changed a lot since I was a teenager, even, and will continue to do so. When you say person with autism or autistic person, neither sound demeaning or insulting or dismissive, and I hope no one holds either against you even if it clashes with their own preferences.
Seeing your subscriber count go up so much by the day is so incredible to see. It's an amazing testament to how well you explain the MLM business model and the lows these huns will go to. Fantastic video again, Hannah!
Also, when my cat hears Zeke's chirping, she gets very excited and wants to join in! I think she's Zeke's number one fan!
"I had a bit of a menty-b" is a phrase that I'm now going to use in my daily life.
On the water one: (I have a chemical engineering degree) The rep mentions 11.5pH water which is pretty basic (Bleach is 11-13 generally) but the main thing is you wanna cut through the oils which isn’t gonna happen with salty water (salt, or dissolved charged particles, is what will change the pH). You need something that emulsifies the oils which is what the soap does!!!
Love your videos Hannah!
Kangen water filter's miracle electrolysis feature! Cleaning your laundry with the power of permanent hair removal! 🤣🤣🤣
Today I learned a new word: emetophobia. Entertaining, kind, AND educational - is there anything Hannah Alonzo can't do on RUclips??!
It’s extremely upsetting and sad that MLM participants resort to exploit illness, trauma and the like. This sales tactic shouldn’t be normalized nor accepted.
The person referring to it as “fighter flight” MULTIPLE TIMES is sending me
I love my 6-3:30 job at a metal manufacturing company 🎉 consistency, good pay, i leave my work behind when i go home
My son is autistic... it's so gross to see people correcting you about you saying "a person with autism"
There is NO one way or RIGHT way. Just because a few overly sensitive attention seeking people are on a power trip and get off by controlling others and policing language on the internet.. doesn't mean they speak for the majority. I've been around so many autistic people and families with autistic kids and I have never even heard this before discussed. I think treating people like you would anyone else is what's important. Not being super PC bc a few people are "offended" 🙄
No one is 'controlling' anyone. It was brought up by autistic people, then taken on board because Hannah chose to do so with her own agency.
So yes, I do preface every little story I tell about something I heard you say on RUclips with, "I've followed her since she was excited about hitting 10K subscribers." Proximity to greatness, I suppose? Thrilled for your success, Hannah. Keep it going.
I work with autistic people and I also study autism and I have to use both terms! I use person first language in professional papers but when referring to someone, I use “autistic”. It’s a very big topic in the psychology community as well as the autism community. Generally speaking, you would use person first language with things like anxiety and depression. However, everyone has their own preferences and we want to make sure the person who is affected gets to choose what language is being used for them. Another debate is whether or not to capitalize autism and other conditions. In a professional setting, we do not capitalize DSM 5 disorders unless it’s an abbreviation like: ASD vs autism.
"Medical grade water" is one of the nuttiest things I've heard in a minute! 🤣💀🤣
The Kangan Water person scares me 😂. Soap has existed for thousands of years, it's not this new "toxic" thing. And it serves a very important purpose of sticking to the germs and dirt on your skin or clothes. Water by itself, no matter how filtered, cannot do that. Even water that is being agitated in a washer still cannot replicate the effect of using soap or detergent. This has been known for countless years. Was there NO other way she could've promoted this filter? 😅
With the autism thing I think it’s really an individual thing! Some people feel strongly one way or another but I really appreciate the way you approach this. I have autism and I hate the whole “detoxing the autism” out of their bodies.
What's the likelihood of her not even having a sister or her sister is fine and she made it up just to sell products?
As an autistic subscriber I really appreciate your research in inclusive language regarding disabled people. Your channel continues to be one of my favorites!
"Name one child who got better by being heavily medicated with hours of therapy"
Hi. Former child, now adult. Still autistic ("level two"). I am only NOW, at 25, able to live my life and function because my doctors found the right level of therapy and medications that work for me. Im still autistic as all hell, but able to function in a society not built for me solely because of modern medicine and my amazing medical team. My mom is an oily, crunchy woman and tried so many "cures," only for me to lash out or get "worse" in her eyes.
Julie did say that when she was on Monat she did use her father's death to sell shampoo. At the time she really believed she did nothing wrong and couldn't see how abhorrent that behavior was. But once she started watching anti MLM content and seeing the comments about how wrong that is and why, it was a painful process to come to terms with. It is possible that they really don't understand that doing this, using death to sell, is wrong. And if they get out, is something they will have to come to terms with and reconcile. Granted, they might be some that know exactly what they are doing and don't care.