Once again you nail down actual pros and cons of a side by side comparison. This is invaluable information and education between mid and high end TT's. These are real comparisons that would take most consumers, myself included hours,days ,weeks to completely forget what the Hell is what and throw our hands up and cry uncle. Awesome job Josh this why we hit the like and subscribe button.
I think my biggest pet peeve about the eagle ht is the lack of outside storage space..I love how the white hawk has an outside compartment in the slide under the dinette and think the eagle ht could benefit from that as well! I’d the white hawk has the bigger bathroom and the hidden pantry behind the tv/fireplace I would definitely buy that one!
Nice choice! You may also consider it back the 284. They are surprisingly similar in size and cost, but the full super slide on the 284 really opens the space
Hi Josh, from sunny Nor Cal. Did most of my 3 years of research from ur stream. Always informative and funny. Best salesman in my opinion. I chose the 2022 Eagle HT 320 FBOK. Simply for the better all around build and warranty. Didn't mind paying extra for that and the layout. On my must haves list, washer/dryer, tall ceiling, and room in the bedroom. I did like the pantry in the white hawk. My HT does have more room with 2 slides. The bath isn't much smaller and i can walk into my laundry room that also has a slide door. The bedroom is spacious and has extra storage behind the couch and a dresser and fire place. I didnt need a king, so cut down the bed platform to fit a queen. It has enough space besides the dresser to add a tall storage cabinet. The other slide has a regular table and chairs and 2 theater seats. It's equipped with 2 whisper quiet AC units, and two solar panels. Outside kitchen with small fridge, sink and lots more storage. Ladder to the roof for maintenance. It's been almost 2 years, and I'm very happy with my purchase. Best part, it's paid for. 😊
The eagle won,the tray on the nose and all that storage in the bedroom did it for us.it is even got me leaning that way over the 25res and the 24rd from cougar.
Jason, great job. We had a Jayco Fifth Wheel, (which we loved but wanted a King Bed)...so we went to a Newmar Class A, but now have an rv lot, so we now want a travel trailer w king. Jayco makes a great product, so we're looking HT direction. Wish ya were closer...we are near Vegas. 🙋🏼♀️
Hey Josh, did you notice the chassis upgrade on the 2021 whitehawks. It's something you might want to mention. The leaf spring hangers are now bolted on instead of welded and it looks like a much more robust setup. It especially makes sense on the White horse split axle design. I had a double leaf spring hanger failure and it's something I would not wish on anyone. Not sure why all trailers aren't built this way.
I did forget to mention that, didn't I? TY for the catch! The hanger mounts are bolted now because they now have 2 mount points to adjust your ride height a bit
The Eagle HT has a 2 inch thick sidewall as opposed to the 11/2 inch one on the White Hawk, but I like the scads of closet space on the White Hawk 27RB compared the the Eagle 27RBOK. So really there are so many pluses on both brands. Thanks Josh for this comparison...great as usual. bill in Florida
If dollars were unlimited, my preference might be different..... But, I like the look of the White Hawk better. The 747 nose cone looks better versus the more upright (and full cap) on the HT. I'm short, so a vaulted ceiling works fine for me. Both are very nice units, but the White Hawks checks the right amount of boxes for the dollars.
I'm really enjoying these comparison videos. I would love to see some smaller Rockwood Mini's vs Jayco's in the 16-18 foot box range. "Battle of the Titans"!!!!
As soon as we can actually get some Rockwoods in stock that stay here for more than an hour I plan to do just that. In my list of comparisons I need to make I summed it up with an entry titled "Rockwood vs... well... the world basically"
We are 100% sold out of Freedom Expresses currently (which should tell you something about their popularity!) else I'd definitely have done this already. I have only done about 1/3 of the comparisons I want to record & have been held up constantly but simply not having RVs in stock like we normally would. As soon as some more things roll in I'll get some comparisons for brands like Freedom Express, Jay Feather, Rockwood, Cherokee, and a bunch more
Do you know how to remove the wrinkle in a wall covering after a repair has been done after a leak? Or removal/replacement the only answer. Thanks your videos always fun and informative.
I like the upscale features of the Eagle, but the floor plans are all too large for what we would like. I would like to see more couple plans and maybe bunk plans for possible visits with grandchildren but in a smaller floor plan.
Eagle HT used to have a smaller couple's model, but it didn't quite "catch on." Currently this is their smallest model www.haylettautoandrv.com/inventory/?keyword=272rbok which is really no longer than a White Hawk. Just taller/heavier as shown in this comparison To get smaller than a super slide the White Hawk or Jay Feather series might be a strong go-to model for you. Freedom Express does some FANTASTIC smaller couple's models with a fold down guest bed as well!
It appears that jayco now uses a traditional I-beam frame under the white Hawks for the 2022 models. I brought my new 2022 29bh home Monday and noticed it. Sure enough, they no longer specify a Norco frame, but rather "American-made frame with integrated A-frame". Fine by me, as I think the I beam frame would be stronger.
I've never seen where the I-Beam vs. Norco frames have a significant strength variance. The Norco frame is actually made with a higher strength / lower alloy grade of steel. But it's thinner gauge so it pretty much evens out. Steel supplies have been touch and go. It's theorized they're going to start seeing steel allocation which may bring chassis production down a bit
In these videos can you include the comparison of typical storage tank size? That’s a big selling point for my wife and I for our next camper since some campgrounds we like don’t have water hookups. Our current trailer only has 27 gallons of fresh water so we can get by for the weekend showering in the bath house, but would like to be able to extend those trips in the future.
That's such a good suggestion... then you Michael. It's something I very often simply forget to consider. It varies so greatly by floor plan that it's not always super cut and dry, but perhaps something like a "mathematical average tank size" comparison..??
Average tank size would be helpful. My wife and I are a few years away from upgrading but are already doing research just trying to get ideas and were basically set on the Jayco 28bhs because of its 76 gallon fresh tank but now after watching your video of the wildwood 26dbud because of its 60 gallon tank and several thousand dollar cheaper price tag. At least having an average would allow us to know what brands to avoid.
Probably coming assuming I can ever get some Rockwoods to stay in stock for more than a few hours (no joke) In my notes where I wrote the bunch of comparisons I want to make I literally wrote "Rockwood vs... the world basically"
There are plenty of great RVs out there, but my role here is really to educate folks on the offerings we have within our lineup and the benefits to working with Haylett RV. When I compare two brands we carry here I can be brutally transparent. Often each brand has comparable points, but now and then one just clearly wins in one category or another. I don't feel I can do that with the same degree of integrity on a brand we do not feature here & will not make purely negative or obviously slanted bias content. We get enough of that during political election season. I know I certainly don't want to see more of it lol
You pointed out there is no back bumper on the Eagle HT so is there a tube underneath for the old stinky slinky like on toy haulers or do you have to store it in the front compartment?
Great video. I watched because in Jayflight V Wildwood,you said these were truly 4 season trailers. I want half ton towable 4 season, preferably Azdell.I live in Angleton, TX which is hot but want to travel summer and winter. What would you recommend? No bunkhouses. Are these 2 the only 4 season trailers that are around this size (weight)? And yes I would drive to Michigan to buy a trailer, because I could drive with no trailer, buy trailer then camp in Michigan then drive back with trailer. My wife is from Midland and we recently went to Glen Arbor and Mackinac, we loved it.
There are a LOOOOT of brands that *CLAIM* "four seasons" function, but nearly none of them actually test and prove it. Eagle and Cougar do which is why I hang my hat on them. I trust published results a lot more than unproven promises.
Josh. Really enjoy your videos. Wished you were closer to us. We're in Ga. Looking to get a bigger used camper. We have a Jayco JAY Flight 24FSB. Am torn between a used 2020 Jayco Eagle HT and an 2021 Imagine 2970 RL. Any words of wisdom?
From my experience they're generally pretty good that way. Imagine focuses a little more on being a touch lighter while eagle tends to focus a little more on larger features
We are a few years away from retirement, and potentially doing this full-time. But out of the different models I've seen in this size & class, the Cougar seems to be the one I find most appealing. They are better for colder climate use I think? - I did that question mark just for you. So then where do baby trailers come from?
Cougars like Eagles and White Hawks are all tested & proven cold camp capable. They actually seem to boast slightly more impressive hot climate testing as well (I think their attic venting helps there a great deal) Regarding the baby trailers... *Sits down on a stool* When a mommy camper and a daddy camper love each other very much..
We have some more Cougar Content coming, but nothing vs. Outback as we're not currently handling their products. I know the folks at outback well. It's a fun, fun product for sure. And VERY MUCH on the level of a Cougar for sure. But they're quite similar, so it hasn't yet made enough sense to stack them here side by side.
The Cougar trailer series may also appeal to you then. Auto leveling is standard on all but their smallest models (which are physically too small for auto leveling to fit) I have a comparison for White Hawk vs. Cougar here: ruclips.net/video/LfTJi9sMNGA/видео.html And one for Cougar vs. Eagle HT coming soon as well. It's not ready yet, but will go live here once published: ruclips.net/video/4nkptwh_DDU/видео.html
First I’d like to wish you and everyone a Happy and safe Thanksgiving. Thank you for all your hard work and great information. Me and my family always look forward to your posts. My question has to do with the White Hawk and the wide stance axles. Is there a kit available to be able to have the shock dampening on the wide stance axles?
Not that I've seen w/o doing some custom fabrication work. That's actually something I forgot to mention on the Eagles -- they are prepped so you can add things like extra shock absorption systems. White Hawk isn't prepped in the same way. Again, I've seen fabricators come up with solutions, but nothing "out of the box" of which I'm really aware marketed for Wide Stance axles I'll also 100% admit I'm not an expert in that area & could simply be ignorant to something that exists already
This video was just a general brand vs brand comparison. Each series makes a variety of layouts whose prices can vary greatly You can always check current pricing at www.Bishs.com with our search tools!
This footage is a bit dated (pre-farmhouse decor), but will still get you MOST of the info you're likely seeking since this model hasn't had major revisions in a few years ruclips.net/video/QyLbwTo4yE4/видео.html
King vs Queen I get half the bed and so does my wife. Her half is in the middle and my half is on the outside edges. Getting a king bed doesn't make my half bigger and it's harder to make the bed when there is less room along the sides. I'll stick with a full length queen bed.
Not sure why such a weight difference. Eagle has much more counter space. White Hawk has almost no prep space but it looks like it has more pantry space. My needs are leading me more to the CKDS but it’s weight is worrying me. I can only buy a 1/2 ton. It’s rated for 13000 lbs but not a lot of leeway for an Eagle.
The biggest difference between these 2 trailers is the white hawk is designed to be towed by a 1/2 ton truck and the Eagle ht is designed for a 3/4 ton truck. The white hawk does an amazing job of being beautiful and luxurious while still being weight sensitive.
So in summary: to get an Eagle you pay 18k more than a jayflight. You get a seven ft ceiling. No better insulation, the drop frame went away, no solid surface, nonstandard 2nd ac, no whisper option for the second ac, and no standard auto level. We are probably going to go for the eagle over WH but that is because we found one with solid surface and the layout is marginally better. I’m still at a little bit of a loss around what you are gaining for around 20k…
We deliver rvs all over al the time. That’s normal stuff for us. Our team specializes in making this easy for you regardless of where you call home! All we need is a chance to work with you!
If you are staying on the interstates, and camping only in parks, the Eagle is better. But for boon docking back roads and such. Whit hawk would be better. So for me white hawk would be the choice. When I see a tall ceiling, all it means to me is. How many more minutes, will it take the heat. To get down to my level. Sorry, just a country boy.
This isn't a video on specific floor plans so much as two different brands and how they stack up vs. one another. Weights within each lineup will naturally vary by layout. We keep that info published on a per-trailer basis for you Is there a model or two you're interested in specifically?
Hey Josh. Are all the sales people at your dealership as knowledgeable about RVs as you are? Im tired of going to dealerships where I know about RVs than my salesperson. I went to Camping World a month and asked if they had park models. His response was "What's that?" :/ Sasha
At the risk of sounding like a self-impressed jerk... No. They likely are not. But for good reason -- I've done NOTHING but study RVs like this for 12 years straight now. That's not to say they're "in the dark" on this stuff, though. We have staff members that've been with us for 6-10 years with a lot of familiar faces around the place. There's always a new person or two. Sales isn't for everybody naturally. But we work to keep our team educated. Every monday we pull a different brand of RV into the shop and I personally lead a full walk-thru workshop where my team members listen up, take notes, and even have a quiz at the end I personally write. It can take a few years to REALLY REALLY "get" all this stuff with all the brands we carry. But we work on it and we're always trying to improve.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Hey Josh, as always a great job! I feelthe same way, I go to all the RV sales places and RV shows and find I can ask so many questions that they can't answer for me, your videos show alot more than the average sales reps can discuss. That being said, I've commented with both Ian from Camping world and Chris from Gander, who is working with Ian now about how to become a "product specialist" here in Ontario Canada. What would be the best approach to get into this kind of work to do what you do? I would love to show people the good, the bad, and the ugly about the RV world meaning the difference between the amount of differences with all the different products, lol Guess that being said I would love to make a difference, lol.
Once again you nail down actual pros and cons of a side by side comparison. This is invaluable information and education between mid and high end TT's. These are real comparisons that would take most consumers, myself included hours,days ,weeks to completely forget what the Hell is what and throw our hands up and cry uncle. Awesome job Josh this why we hit the like and subscribe button.
Thank you Kevin! I appreciate it man
Great info for someone like me looking for his first and hopefuly last RV.
Awesome Ty :)
Some of this is now outdated but it mostly holds up
I've been waiting for this. I was actually going to email you after this weeks comparison to get a run down of these two. Can't wait
I'm trying! Now that we're getting some more stuff in I'll be able to knock a few more of these out
This was a very informative comparison. I have been looking at the white hawk, and now the Eagle is on my radar. Love the taller interior.
Ty. This is a bit dated though but may help get you started
Josh you nailed it again, thank you for comparing the trailers. Great job!!!
Glad you like them!
I think my biggest pet peeve about the eagle ht is the lack of outside storage space..I love how the white hawk has an outside compartment in the slide under the dinette and think the eagle ht could benefit from that as well! I’d the white hawk has the bigger bathroom and the hidden pantry behind the tv/fireplace I would definitely buy that one!
As a new buyer, you have taught me so much. I appreciate that. Working on my second buy. Keep up the GREAT work!
Thanks for sharing, Michael! What do you have currently?
Freedom express 237rbs
Loved the comparison! The wife and I have our sights set on a 264BHOK now!
Nice choice! You may also consider it back the 284. They are surprisingly similar in size and cost, but the full super slide on the 284 really opens the space
We would love the 284 my thinking behind going with the 264 was keeping it at the 32 ft mark to be able to book site with up to 32ft in state parks.
Hi Josh, from sunny Nor Cal. Did most of my 3 years of research from ur stream. Always informative and funny. Best salesman in my opinion. I chose the 2022 Eagle HT 320 FBOK. Simply for the better all around build and warranty. Didn't mind paying extra for that and the layout. On my must haves list, washer/dryer, tall ceiling, and room in the bedroom. I did like the pantry in the white hawk. My HT does have more room with 2 slides. The bath isn't much smaller and i can walk into my laundry room that also has a slide door. The bedroom is spacious and has extra storage behind the couch and a dresser and fire place. I didnt need a king, so cut down the bed platform to fit a queen. It has enough space besides the dresser to add a tall storage cabinet. The other slide has a regular table and chairs and 2 theater seats. It's equipped with 2 whisper quiet AC units, and two solar panels. Outside kitchen with small fridge, sink and lots more storage. Ladder to the roof for maintenance. It's been almost 2 years, and I'm very happy with my purchase. Best part, it's paid for. 😊
That sounds great! Congratulations!
Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand?
Can't wait for this comparison. I'll get my ice tea and popcorn ready!
:)
It's probably been my shortest so far (though with me that just means less than 40 minutes LOL)
Waiting on this one,since we saw the video of that beautiful 272rbok.
So did the Hawk or the Eagle win in the end? Which bird are you flipping? LOL
The eagle won,the tray on the nose and all that storage in the bedroom did it for us.it is even got me leaning that way over the 25res and the 24rd from cougar.
Jason, great job.
We had a Jayco Fifth Wheel, (which we loved but wanted a King Bed)...so we went to a Newmar Class A, but now have an rv lot, so we now want a travel trailer w king.
Jayco makes a great product, so we're looking HT direction. Wish ya were closer...we are near Vegas. 🙋🏼♀️
Hey Josh, did you notice the chassis upgrade on the 2021 whitehawks. It's something you might want to mention. The leaf spring hangers are now bolted on instead of welded and it looks like a much more robust setup. It especially makes sense on the White horse split axle design. I had a double leaf spring hanger failure and it's something I would not wish on anyone. Not sure why all trailers aren't built this way.
I did forget to mention that, didn't I? TY for the catch!
The hanger mounts are bolted now because they now have 2 mount points to adjust your ride height a bit
The Eagle HT has a 2 inch thick sidewall as opposed to the 11/2 inch one on the White Hawk, but I like the scads of closet space on the White Hawk 27RB compared the the Eagle 27RBOK. So really there are so many pluses on both brands. Thanks Josh for this comparison...great as usual. bill in Florida
HT is still a 1.5" wall actually. FULL Eagle does have a 2" wall though.
If dollars were unlimited, my preference might be different..... But, I like the look of the White Hawk better. The 747 nose cone looks better versus the more upright (and full cap) on the HT. I'm short, so a vaulted ceiling works fine for me. Both are very nice units, but the White Hawks checks the right amount of boxes for the dollars.
Super smart way of looking at it. Appreciate the open minded, yet grounded point of view
Excellent job. The Eagle HT looks like it's worth the extra 5 grand. Happy Thanksgiving Josh. Hope it's a truly blessed one.
Same to you!!
Love the videos!! Always very informative and a good laugh!
I'm really enjoying these comparison videos.
I would love to see some smaller Rockwood Mini's vs Jayco's in the 16-18 foot box range.
"Battle of the Titans"!!!!
As soon as we can actually get some Rockwoods in stock that stay here for more than an hour I plan to do just that.
In my list of comparisons I need to make I summed it up with an entry titled "Rockwood vs... well... the world basically"
Josh, can you do a Freedom Express - Jayco equivalent comparison?
We are 100% sold out of Freedom Expresses currently (which should tell you something about their popularity!) else I'd definitely have done this already.
I have only done about 1/3 of the comparisons I want to record & have been held up constantly but simply not having RVs in stock like we normally would.
As soon as some more things roll in I'll get some comparisons for brands like Freedom Express, Jay Feather, Rockwood, Cherokee, and a bunch more
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family Josh! 🦃
Same to you!!
Do you know how to remove the wrinkle in a wall covering after a repair has been done after a leak? Or removal/replacement the only answer. Thanks your videos always fun and informative.
Removing it is probably the only real solution here
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you, that’s what I thought.
Thank you. Do you have a comparison on bunk trailers. Whether room or just bunks thank you
I think this one might fit the bill: ruclips.net/video/O7B_8Oa75Ac/видео.html
I like the upscale features of the Eagle, but the floor plans are all too large for what we would like. I would like to see more couple plans and maybe bunk plans for possible visits with grandchildren but in a smaller floor plan.
Eagle HT used to have a smaller couple's model, but it didn't quite "catch on." Currently this is their smallest model www.haylettautoandrv.com/inventory/?keyword=272rbok which is really no longer than a White Hawk. Just taller/heavier as shown in this comparison
To get smaller than a super slide the White Hawk or Jay Feather series might be a strong go-to model for you. Freedom Express does some FANTASTIC smaller couple's models with a fold down guest bed as well!
It appears that jayco now uses a traditional I-beam frame under the white Hawks for the 2022 models. I brought my new 2022 29bh home Monday and noticed it. Sure enough, they no longer specify a Norco frame, but rather "American-made frame with integrated A-frame". Fine by me, as I think the I beam frame would be stronger.
I've never seen where the I-Beam vs. Norco frames have a significant strength variance. The Norco frame is actually made with a higher strength / lower alloy grade of steel. But it's thinner gauge so it pretty much evens out.
Steel supplies have been touch and go. It's theorized they're going to start seeing steel allocation which may bring chassis production down a bit
A 5 head not a forehead. That killed me 😆 🤣 😂
Killed my haircut too..
Hi Josh, does teh Eagle HT have a front kitchen floor plan similar to the White Hawk...front kitchen is a must
They do not but here’s a few
* Rockwood 2608bs
* freedom express 259fkds
* and new coming cougar 25fkd
In these videos can you include the comparison of typical storage tank size? That’s a big selling point for my wife and I for our next camper since some campgrounds we like don’t have water hookups. Our current trailer only has 27 gallons of fresh water so we can get by for the weekend showering in the bath house, but would like to be able to extend those trips in the future.
That's such a good suggestion... then you Michael. It's something I very often simply forget to consider.
It varies so greatly by floor plan that it's not always super cut and dry, but perhaps something like a "mathematical average tank size" comparison..??
Average tank size would be helpful. My wife and I are a few years away from upgrading but are already doing research just trying to get ideas and were basically set on the Jayco 28bhs because of its 76 gallon fresh tank but now after watching your video of the wildwood 26dbud because of its 60 gallon tank and several thousand dollar cheaper price tag. At least having an average would allow us to know what brands to avoid.
Happy thanksgiving!!! Great video! Will you do a comparison between Eagle HT and Rockwood Signature?
Probably coming assuming I can ever get some Rockwoods to stay in stock for more than a few hours (no joke)
In my notes where I wrote the bunch of comparisons I want to make I literally wrote "Rockwood vs... the world basically"
How about an Eagle HT v/s Grand Design Imagine.
Where would you hang 2 spare tires on the eagle HT?
There are plenty of great RVs out there, but my role here is really to educate folks on the offerings we have within our lineup and the benefits to working with Haylett RV.
When I compare two brands we carry here I can be brutally transparent. Often each brand has comparable points, but now and then one just clearly wins in one category or another.
I don't feel I can do that with the same degree of integrity on a brand we do not feature here & will not make purely negative or obviously slanted bias content. We get enough of that during political election season. I know I certainly don't want to see more of it lol
You pointed out there is no back bumper on the Eagle HT so is there a tube underneath for the old stinky slinky like on toy haulers or do you have to store it in the front compartment?
I'm operating from a bit of memory but I _think_ they added the stinky slinky sewer tube to all Eagles when they shifted to the 2022 model year
Great video. I watched because in Jayflight V Wildwood,you said these were truly 4 season trailers. I want half ton towable 4 season, preferably Azdell.I live in Angleton, TX which is hot but want to travel summer and winter. What would you recommend? No bunkhouses. Are these 2 the only 4 season trailers that are around this size (weight)? And yes I would drive to Michigan to buy a trailer, because I could drive with no trailer, buy trailer then camp in Michigan then drive back with trailer. My wife is from Midland and we recently went to Glen Arbor and Mackinac, we loved it.
There are a LOOOOT of brands that *CLAIM* "four seasons" function, but nearly none of them actually test and prove it. Eagle and Cougar do which is why I hang my hat on them. I trust published results a lot more than unproven promises.
Josh. Really enjoy your videos. Wished you were closer to us. We're in Ga. Looking to get a bigger used camper. We have a Jayco JAY Flight 24FSB. Am torn between a used 2020 Jayco Eagle HT and an 2021 Imagine 2970 RL. Any words of wisdom?
I can't really offer any sort of wisdom or insight on two used RVs I haven't been able to see and compare myself unfortunately
Ok I understand. Would you give me your opinion then? Is the build quality of a Jayco Eagle HT comparable to a Grand Design Imagine 2970RL?
From my experience they're generally pretty good that way.
Imagine focuses a little more on being a touch lighter while eagle tends to focus a little more on larger features
We are a few years away from retirement, and potentially doing this full-time. But out of the different models I've seen in this size & class, the Cougar seems to be the one I find most appealing. They are better for colder climate use I think? - I did that question mark just for you.
So then where do baby trailers come from?
Cougars like Eagles and White Hawks are all tested & proven cold camp capable. They actually seem to boast slightly more impressive hot climate testing as well (I think their attic venting helps there a great deal)
Regarding the baby trailers... *Sits down on a stool*
When a mommy camper and a daddy camper love each other very much..
Looking at the premiers that are pending and hoping that Cougar vs Outback is planned for this series.
We have some more Cougar Content coming, but nothing vs. Outback as we're not currently handling their products.
I know the folks at outback well. It's a fun, fun product for sure. And VERY MUCH on the level of a Cougar for sure. But they're quite similar, so it hasn't yet made enough sense to stack them here side by side.
I think I would choose the eagle HT series I like auto level and all the goodies lol.
The Cougar trailer series may also appeal to you then. Auto leveling is standard on all but their smallest models (which are physically too small for auto leveling to fit)
I have a comparison for White Hawk vs. Cougar here: ruclips.net/video/LfTJi9sMNGA/видео.html
And one for Cougar vs. Eagle HT coming soon as well. It's not ready yet, but will go live here once published: ruclips.net/video/4nkptwh_DDU/видео.html
I would like to see a comparison to the Bullet Premier units.
Dose Jayco Eagle or Whitehawk travel trailers have the front bedroom open up on the side like there 5th wheel campers ? I got a 31RL
Yep! Here's a sample: ruclips.net/video/goFHbynvo4Y/видео.html
There's a slightly scaled down version of that coming in the HT series soon
First I’d like to wish you and everyone a Happy and safe Thanksgiving. Thank you for all your hard work and great information. Me and my family always look forward to your posts. My question has to do with the White Hawk and the wide stance axles. Is there a kit available to be able to have the shock dampening on the wide stance axles?
Not that I've seen w/o doing some custom fabrication work. That's actually something I forgot to mention on the Eagles -- they are prepped so you can add things like extra shock absorption systems.
White Hawk isn't prepped in the same way. Again, I've seen fabricators come up with solutions, but nothing "out of the box" of which I'm really aware marketed for Wide Stance axles
I'll also 100% admit I'm not an expert in that area & could simply be ignorant to something that exists already
Can you please tell us general price points for these trailers.
This video was just a general brand vs brand comparison. Each series makes a variety of layouts whose prices can vary greatly
You can always check current pricing at www.Bishs.com with our search tools!
I’d love to see you do a video on the Jay Flight 33RBTS.
We have so many RVs coming in I've lost track of which models will be landing soon. Pretty sure we have some coming though.
This footage is a bit dated (pre-farmhouse decor), but will still get you MOST of the info you're likely seeking since this model hasn't had major revisions in a few years ruclips.net/video/QyLbwTo4yE4/видео.html
Dude you’re the best!!
Hey Josh. Are all the Eagle HTs drop frame in the storage compartment
None of them are currently. Thats something that changed after this video came out
@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you sir. We are looking for a 294ckbs and was wondering about the Storage Compartment. Thanks for the reply
I need to get updated footage of that actually
@@JoshtheRVNerd Sounds great.
King vs Queen
I get half the bed and so does my wife. Her half is in the middle and my half is on the outside edges. Getting a king bed doesn't make my half bigger and it's harder to make the bed when there is less room along the sides. I'll stick with a full length queen bed.
Hahahahahahahaa noted :)
A split screen and the MSRP would help.
TY for the idea
Not sure why such a weight difference. Eagle has much more counter space. White Hawk has almost no prep space but it looks like it has more pantry space. My needs are leading me more to the CKDS but it’s weight is worrying me. I can only buy a 1/2 ton. It’s rated for 13000 lbs but not a lot of leeway for an Eagle.
The taller walls (which also adds a lot of cabinet weight), bulkier chassis, and heavier full nose cap add up quite quickly.
Cannot find the comparison of the Jay Feather VS the White Hawk that you say is in the body of the description
Yeah... neither can I. Which means i probably recorded it & accidentally deleted it before it was ever published
I've done that twice this year
@@JoshtheRVNerd so is there a plan still afoot to do a new one, that is if you can get some in.
@@robc2902 We're constantly replacing things. We have about 300-400rvs on order right now
The biggest difference between these 2 trailers is the white hawk is designed to be towed by a 1/2 ton truck and the Eagle ht is designed for a 3/4 ton truck. The white hawk does an amazing job of being beautiful and luxurious while still being weight sensitive.
I think that's a solid reference point, though some of those bigger White Hawks definitely blur that line heavily!
18:43 every time you do that 🎶 Boots & Hats 🎶 thing it reminds me of this comedy bit...
ruclips.net/video/GucehpdFmYc/видео.html 🇲🇽’s wearing 🥾 😆
So in summary: to get an Eagle you pay 18k more than a jayflight. You get a seven ft ceiling. No better insulation, the drop frame went away, no solid surface, nonstandard 2nd ac, no whisper option for the second ac, and no standard auto level.
We are probably going to go for the eagle over WH but that is because we found one with solid surface and the layout is marginally better. I’m still at a little bit of a loss around what you are gaining for around 20k…
Hello, is there much difference between a Jayco Whitehawk 23mrb and a Jayco Jay feather 24T? Thank you
But how would you get it to us in WA. state? Just curious. 🙂
We deliver rvs all over al the time. That’s normal stuff for us. Our team specializes in making this easy for you regardless of where you call home!
All we need is a chance to work with you!
If you are staying on the interstates, and camping only in parks, the Eagle is better. But for boon docking back roads and such. Whit hawk would be better. So for me white hawk would be the choice. When I see a tall ceiling, all it means to me is. How many more minutes, will it take the heat. To get down to my level. Sorry, just a country boy.
Love the lines of thought! Makes perfect sense!
How much does it weigh
This isn't a video on specific floor plans so much as two different brands and how they stack up vs. one another. Weights within each lineup will naturally vary by layout. We keep that info published on a per-trailer basis for you
Is there a model or two you're interested in specifically?
Hey Josh. Are all the sales people at your dealership as knowledgeable about RVs as you are? Im tired of going to dealerships where I know about RVs than my salesperson. I went to Camping World a month and asked if they had park models. His response was "What's that?" :/ Sasha
At the risk of sounding like a self-impressed jerk... No. They likely are not. But for good reason -- I've done NOTHING but study RVs like this for 12 years straight now. That's not to say they're "in the dark" on this stuff, though. We have staff members that've been with us for 6-10 years with a lot of familiar faces around the place.
There's always a new person or two. Sales isn't for everybody naturally.
But we work to keep our team educated. Every monday we pull a different brand of RV into the shop and I personally lead a full walk-thru workshop where my team members listen up, take notes, and even have a quiz at the end I personally write.
It can take a few years to REALLY REALLY "get" all this stuff with all the brands we carry. But we work on it and we're always trying to improve.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Hey Josh, as always a great job!
I feelthe same way, I go to all the RV sales places and RV shows and find I can ask so many questions that they can't answer for me, your videos show alot more than the average sales reps can discuss.
That being said, I've commented with both Ian from Camping world and Chris from Gander, who is working with Ian now about how to become a "product specialist" here in Ontario Canada.
What would be the best approach to get into this kind of work to do what you do?
I would love to show people the good, the bad, and the ugly about the RV world meaning the difference between the amount of differences with all the different products, lol
Guess that being said I would love to make a difference, lol.
But the good news is even if everyone at Haylett isn’t as knowledgeable as Josh, they have someone to turn to for answers.
@@tazman2714 Best advisory I can provide is quite simple: Listen more than you speak. Which sounds odd coming from me LOL
@@Goingforbroke71 I'm the common Q&A guy around the house here, yeah :)
Stop trying to justify one from the other just gives the differences we'll decide, gee. We know the eagle HT is just a better build, plain and simple