The dry hitch weight of this 5th wheel is around 1500lbs. Add in another 170lbs for the truck bed hitch mount and another 200lbs or so of hitch weight for normal camping cargo and you are fast approaching 2000lbs of hitch weight on the bed of your truck. Now add another couple hundred pounds to the truck for passengers and gear, and you are well over 2000 lbs. Not many 1/2 ton trucks have that kind of payload capacity. You really need a 3/4 ton truck to safely tow one of these.
Came here to say this exact thing. Most people don't realize the limiting factor in towing an RV in most cases is going to be payload limits not towing capacity. Also towing at the max limit is "ok" but it's probably not going to be comfortable. I always tell people to give at least 20% margin on the max limit, if you can't then you need a bigger truck to comfortably tow.
@@fly2crawl Yep, when the dealer tells you, "your truck can pull it", you better run the numbers yourself. I can "pull" a small utility trailer with a rope attached to it. What I can't do is put that load on my shoulders and walk off with it.
@@fly2crawl I agree 100%. I'm 70 and have been towing trailers for a lot of years and I always observe the 20% safety margin and never had a problem. Now add towing in western states with mountain roads and that safety margin really matters.
@@jasoncaruso9510 Check the GCWR….that is why you need a 3/4 ton truck for this unit. The advertised tow rating for your truck is kind of false advertising….
I believe Max is correct, I have heard that Ford makes a F150 with a higher bed weight (CCC) and diesel engine that can do it. RAM makes a diesel as well, 12,500 tow rating but its bed weight is the same as every other 1500. 😊
Being the last major rv manufacturer to build a rear dining fifth wheel you would think they could Nail it! But NO. They cut down the width of the dinette by 8-10 inches then put in a tiny little table! Also continue to provide very little storage in the bedroom. Nice big windows though. Video left me with a lot of questions that I don’t need answers to bcuz they ruined the dinette. Happy camping!
I enjoy your reviews! I’m still in the hunt and peck phase of a first time buyer. You and Josh have taught me a lot although he does lots more reviews. When first I started this journey I had no clue what a slide was. Or a black tank. If I’d gone out and bought something I would’ve been in a royal mess. Unless I’d bought the LTV Unity MBL but unfortunately it’s a bit too small. Anyways, thanks for teaching us, “show and tell” if you will. I’m a Texan also so I may head there when we’re ready to buy!
Just curious. Dry weight is 8010, Cargo is 1490 GVWR says 9500 lbs. On the data plate you said is 12,500 Lbs. Where does the other 3,000 lbs come from?
PERFECT HALF TON TOWABLE. My 1959 Bug Eyed Sprite is more then half a ton. So you are saying it's safe to tow this with my 847cc Bug Eyed ? Thank you for being a true salesman.
You guys who sound the alarm on half ton towing- do u not realize that not all half ton trucks are created equal? I have a 2020 F-150 with a super max tow package. It has a 3.5 Eco boost engine, 10 speed transmission and is rated to tow 13,800. Its pin capacity is 1789 lbs. I run 10 ply Cooper tires and have Timbrel overloads on the rear axle I tow a 2015 Open Range 297rls with a dry weight of under 8k and a pin weight of 1380. We live in SE Missouri and have pulled to Yellowstone, Gatlinburg, Navarre Beach, Ocala, and more without a hint of overload or loss of control. I feel much saver with my setup than I would towing a pull behind half my campers size. So some of u will crunch the numbers and say I am endangering my life. I don’t see how you reach that conclusion unless you are trying to sell 3/4 ton units on the side. Of course not every truck is rated as highly as the f-150. But I purchased it with pulling a fifth wheel and it does the job.
I have the same truck and the dealer researched and said it would pull it without issues. I also researched as well. I am going to add the airbag suspension for added comfort of the ride. Thanks for not being a Debbie downer
You still don’t have the payload capacity to tow this trailer. Unless you just ignore the payload numbers. The loaded pin weight will be north of 2200 pounds. Lots of people just look at max tow capacity and just ignore everything else.
Excellent floor plan. My don't likes is the manual recliners, older folks can't pull the rig cord or kick the foot rest back in, they have to spend another $2k to upgrade to electric recliners. Jayco should have added upper cabinets above the bed to store extra pillows and blankets. I don't like the cubby hole at the head boad, I would lose my pillows in there. I didn't quite understand the grill and sink outside, was that a free standing setup or did it slide into the trailer?
I'm usually not this harsh but when I saw the cubby at the head board I thought "that's stupid". I thought the same thing as you, my pillows would slide right in. And if the owner puts on a thicker mattress it is even less usable. I feel sorry for the RV sales people that have to try and convince buyers that this is a "feature".
It's nice enough, but the slide blocking the fuse/breaker box and not being able to access the bathroom with the slide closed are deal breakers for me.
My buddy has a F150 with added suspension, bulked up trans with coolers and air ride and he said he would never tow a fish wheel. I wouldn't trust it either
No, just no. Please stop advising people to tow these with a half-ton. Why did you fail to mention the hitch weight? With a dry hitch weight of 1,610 lbs, virtually no half-tons will have the payload capacity to tow this safely. Extremely irresponsible of Jayco to market this as “Half-ton”.
My 2014 F-150 Tows our HT 5th wheel just fine. We've towed over 5k miles. Just need the right equipped truck is all. As long as you don't overload your truck or trailer you're fine.
What exactly are you crying about? My Ram 1500 Big Horn will tow this fully loaded with 1000 pounds to spare. As the guy said, depends on how the truck is equipped. Mine with the hemi tows just over 13000 pounds
half ton towable ? I think I would be asking my ins company if they will cover me towing this with a half ton and you cream a car with kids in it because I couldn't stop.. absolutely nuts.
I didnt think you were allowed to dump gray water out at camp grounds or boondocking/sites. Why are you telling people to just dump it? So many people are slobs and have no camping etiqette. Is it because they are taking bad advice like that?
What campgrounds do you go to that doesn’t allow dumping grey water tanks? Sounds pretty wonky to me. If you mean dumping the outside kitchen sink water, I think it’ll be ok lol
@@ledwallet1944 wow you must be one of the slobs doing it. You feel better calling me a Karen for your own bad camping habits, be my guest. Only makes you look like the one everyone loathes that can't follow basic known camping rules.
@@robdurfee6861 Gray water is not as bad as the black water but it is still not legal to dump in camp grounds or out in our national or state parks or other outdoor boondocking locations. Gray water is soapy water with food particles in it and can have negative impacts on the environment whether you use biodegradable soaps and dish detergent. We are camping to enjoy the beauty of nature and not hurt the land or the animals that live on it. When you camp you're supposed to leave the environment the same as when you found it. Disposing of Gray water by just dumping it on the ground can change the environment. It all starts with the soil. Plants depend on the native soils natural pH balance and ability to absorb moisture in order to thrive. Gray water contains chemicals and oils that can affect the natural balance and function of the soil, and this in turn affects the ability of native vegetation to thrive. Dumping RV grey water in areas with natural water sources like streams and rivers or lakes nearby can encourage algae. Algae can choke out the natural occurring species. Algae blooms can make water toxic to animals. Federal law might allow for The dumping of wash water but state laws will supersede the federal law in many states do not allow dumping Gray water. Gray water is to be disposed of properly. You cannot dump gray water directly on the ground thinking that soapy water wouldn't be a problem. But it's generally not the case. It is illegal to dump gray water in anything other than an approved sewage system in most places. Gray water has food particles oil soaps and even oils from the skin which can devastate vegetation. It can damage the environment and make that location unappealing for future campers.
58 million people camped at least once in 2022 from what I can quickly Google. If everyone of them thought they alone were so special that dumping their Gray water tank would not hurt anything then what happens after 58 million Gray water dumps into the same basic locations in camp sites and authorized state and federal camp sites, BLM sites etc. 58 million are people that camped at least once. How many camp an entire season or full time and they continually dump their gray tanks wherever they want. Our land will no longer be something you want to camp on and the animals may die or their habitats be destroyed and their food sources etc. All because you all think you are so very special and dumping your soapy dirty gray tank is no big deal.
The caveat, "well equipped". There are towing packages in half tons that will take the pin weight, but unless you order from the dealer, they are hard to find. I bought an Eagle HT, and went for a 1 ton and i'm not looking back.
That might be a bit overkill. It really depends if you are going across the country with the truck completely full of crap....or driving an hour from your house with you and your dog. People try to make it too cut and dry but it isn't. That said. I wouldn't tow this with a half ton....even if equipment was good on the truck. Windy days....people under estimate the importance of having a heavy truck to combat the wind. A light enough half ton (light enough to have available payload) would be a real nightmare in the wind.
@@wadebrewer7212: PPL also tend to negate the problem of wind turbulance with semi-trucks barreling down the interstates and the amount of wind they generate. Just came off a wrecked 1/2 ton towing a brand new TT that wound up jack knifed because of wind turbulence from a passing semi that caused the trailer to fishtail.
RV dealers will lie straight to your face just to sell you a camper. 1,610lbs is the dry hitch weight. This is pushing the limits of most half ton trucks already . Add in anything you put in the truck to go camping and you are probably already over payload. Not only is it dangerous, but some insurance companies will not cover you if you are over weight. Not worth it.
Comments below are correct - There is no such thing as a fifth wheel rv that is safely 1/2 ton towable. You u tube people claim to be doing this to help people. If that's true then start telling people if they are going to tow a fifth wheel consider everyones' safety (including their own) and do not consider a 1/2 ton for fifth wheels. It's just not safe. Even less safe when some pissant sales man sells a newbie on the premiss that this would be OK. IT'S NOT!!!
We’ve only seen one small 5th wheel that can be towed by a half ton truck. KZ makes a small one and we seen it being tow by a half ton Ram. Other than that we wished the manufacturers would stop calling these small 5th wheels “ half ton”. When we review small 5th wheels, we always say that a 3/4 ton truck would be better. We don’t work for a dealership so all we can do is suggest a bigger truck.
First thing on my list is the oven. Why did they put a dinky easy bake oven in a fulltime RV??? Second: hate the designated tv space, but big fan of pocket doors. Most 5th wheels I gave watched on RUclips have east to west bedrooms so you get that nice closer along the front cap of the RV. I wouldn't buy this one. My family has owned Jayco RVs and they had much better floorplans.
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The dry hitch weight of this 5th wheel is around 1500lbs. Add in another 170lbs for the truck bed hitch mount and another 200lbs or so of hitch weight for normal camping cargo and you are fast approaching 2000lbs of hitch weight on the bed of your truck. Now add another couple hundred pounds to the truck for passengers and gear, and you are well over 2000 lbs. Not many 1/2 ton trucks have that kind of payload capacity. You really need a 3/4 ton truck to safely tow one of these.
Came here to say this exact thing. Most people don't realize the limiting factor in towing an RV in most cases is going to be payload limits not towing capacity. Also towing at the max limit is "ok" but it's probably not going to be comfortable. I always tell people to give at least 20% margin on the max limit, if you can't then you need a bigger truck to comfortably tow.
@@fly2crawl Yep, when the dealer tells you, "your truck can pull it", you better run the numbers yourself. I can "pull" a small utility trailer with a rope attached to it. What I can't do is put that load on my shoulders and walk off with it.
Jayco says its dry hitch weight is 1610lbs.
@@fly2crawl I agree 100%. I'm 70 and have been towing trailers for a lot of years and I always observe the 20% safety margin and never had a problem. Now add towing in western states with mountain roads and that safety margin really matters.
Love that when the slide is in it blocks access to the bathroom and bedroom!
Great unit - definitely need a 3/4 ton...
Why? Can't speak for every truck manufacturer but a Ram 1500 Big horn with the Hemi will pull just over 13000 pounds
@@jasoncaruso9510 the payload is the problem. Don't let these dealers lie and say half ton is fine.
@@jasoncaruso9510Post the pay load.
@@ryanryan6207 Half the people on these sites have no clue what "payload" is. But it drives the entire truck question.
@@jasoncaruso9510 Check the GCWR….that is why you need a 3/4 ton truck for this unit. The advertised tow rating for your truck is kind of false advertising….
Nice looking and very functional. Love that it is less than 30 feet. Love Jayco campers.
There are almost no half ton trucks with a payload enough to handle this RV. I have yet to find one.
Maybe a Ford F150 2 door with the Eco boost engine. No luxury items. Not even 4 wd. This is a guess, I haven't actually run those numbers.
I believe Max is correct, I have heard that Ford makes a F150 with a higher bed weight (CCC) and diesel engine that can do it. RAM makes a diesel as well, 12,500 tow rating but its bed weight is the same as every other 1500. 😊
Being the last major rv manufacturer to build a rear dining fifth wheel you would think they could Nail it! But NO. They cut down the width of the dinette by 8-10 inches then put in a tiny little table! Also continue to provide very little storage in the bedroom. Nice big windows though. Video left me with a lot of questions that I don’t need answers to bcuz they ruined the dinette. Happy camping!
I'm glad Jayco got away from the dark depressing colors , We love the farmhouse colors
Love the drawers as opposed to the silly cabinets you have to stand on your head to get into. very cool!!
This is beautiful! One of the prettiest I’ve seen outside of pinnacle.
I enjoy your reviews! I’m still in the hunt and peck phase of a first time buyer. You and Josh have taught me a lot although he does lots more reviews. When first I started this journey I had no clue what a slide was. Or a black tank. If I’d gone out and bought something I would’ve been in a royal mess. Unless I’d bought the LTV Unity MBL but unfortunately it’s a bit too small. Anyways, thanks for teaching us, “show and tell” if you will. I’m a Texan also so I may head there when we’re ready to buy!
Jayco just gets it.
Just curious. Dry weight is 8010, Cargo is 1490 GVWR says 9500 lbs. On the data plate you said is 12,500 Lbs. Where does the other 3,000 lbs come from?
PERFECT HALF TON TOWABLE.
My 1959 Bug Eyed Sprite is more then half a ton. So you are saying it's safe to tow this with my 847cc Bug Eyed ?
Thank you for being a true salesman.
I would NOT tow this with anything but a Chevy 2500, ram 2500, or ford f250 built in the last 15 years
You guys who sound the alarm on half ton towing- do u not realize that not all half ton trucks are created equal? I have a 2020 F-150 with a super max tow package. It has a 3.5 Eco boost engine, 10 speed transmission and is rated to tow 13,800. Its pin capacity is 1789 lbs. I run 10 ply Cooper tires and have Timbrel overloads on the rear axle I tow a 2015 Open Range 297rls with a dry weight of under 8k and a pin weight of 1380. We live in SE Missouri and have pulled to Yellowstone, Gatlinburg, Navarre Beach, Ocala, and more without a hint of overload or loss of control. I feel much saver with my setup than I would towing a pull behind half my campers size. So some of u will crunch the numbers and say I am endangering my life. I don’t see how you reach that conclusion unless you are trying to sell 3/4 ton units on the side. Of course not every truck is rated as highly as the f-150. But I purchased it with pulling a fifth wheel and it does the job.
I have the same truck and the dealer researched and said it would pull it without issues. I also researched as well. I am going to add the airbag suspension for added comfort of the ride. Thanks for not being a Debbie downer
You still don’t have the payload capacity to tow this trailer. Unless you just ignore the payload numbers. The loaded pin weight will be north of 2200 pounds. Lots of people just look at max tow capacity and just ignore everything else.
Good looking RV only one bad thing you need to slide the slide out to use the washroom when traveling
Looks like enough room to get thru…
Can Recliner be substituted for a large Sofa Bed. Queen 👑
Excellent floor plan. My don't likes is the manual recliners, older folks can't pull the rig cord or kick the foot rest back in, they have to spend another $2k to upgrade to electric recliners. Jayco should have added upper cabinets above the bed to store extra pillows and blankets. I don't like the cubby hole at the head boad, I would lose my pillows in there. I didn't quite understand the grill and sink outside, was that a free standing setup or did it slide into the trailer?
I'm usually not this harsh but when I saw the cubby at the head board I thought "that's stupid". I thought the same thing as you, my pillows would slide right in. And if the owner puts on a thicker mattress it is even less usable. I feel sorry for the RV sales people that have to try and convince buyers that this is a "feature".
@@archaney I want over head storage in the bedroom for those extra blankets, clothes and gadgets.
If it had another door maybe where the storage compartment is would be like out.
Question: where are the washer/dryer hookups? Is the floor reinforced to hold a washer/dryer? Does the bed lift up for additional storage? Thank you!
Looks wonderful!!
It's nice enough, but the slide blocking the fuse/breaker box and not being able to access the bathroom with the slide closed are deal breakers for me.
That seems to be a thing with rear dinette models. It is a deal breaker for me as well.
Hey Mike….great rv. What does Jayco have with king beds? Thanks.
Does that slideout block the fuse panel? Definite no if it does!!!
2019 1500 Rambox Limited 5’7” bed
3.92 tow package air suspension
Will my truck safely pull this 5th wheel
My buddy has a F150 with added suspension, bulked up trans with coolers and air ride and he said he would never tow a fish wheel. I wouldn't trust it either
I like the camper l have a 2008 Jaco getting older thanking about a new one soon
Cover the slide mechanics!
Can you list the half ton trucks that can tow tow this?
I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado half ton, 5.3, 4x4 crew cab, with a tow package, and air bags, will it tow this unit?
No, just no. Please stop advising people to tow these with a half-ton. Why did you fail to mention the hitch weight? With a dry hitch weight of 1,610 lbs, virtually no half-tons will have the payload capacity to tow this safely. Extremely irresponsible of Jayco to market this as “Half-ton”.
My 2014 F-150 Tows our HT 5th wheel just fine. We've towed over 5k miles. Just need the right equipped truck is all. As long as you don't overload your truck or trailer you're fine.
What exactly are you crying about? My Ram 1500 Big Horn will tow this fully loaded with 1000 pounds to spare. As the guy said, depends on how the truck is equipped. Mine with the hemi tows just over 13000 pounds
@@jasoncaruso9510what’s your payload?
He plainly said not every half ton. Maybe listen before you get rude.
“Well equipped “ was stressed at the beginning. He clearly said you couldn’t pull it with just any half-ton truck.
This would be the one for me If it had a closet slide like the Cougar models. Lots of travels and need dress clothes. 😢
How much is it, what is the list price??
So, if you put a washer/dryer in, you have NO hanging wardrobe for your clothes & very tiny drawer space ... that bedroom is a no go for me.
I thought it would have been more storage in the bedroom
half ton towable ? I think I would be asking my ins company if they will cover me towing this with a half ton and you cream a car with kids in it because I couldn't stop.. absolutely nuts.
Can you use bathroom while traveling
MSRP ?
$51,000 roughly
The living space is dreamy. The lack of storage in an appropriate closet and draws in the bedroom is disappointing.
At 7:15 you get the real story on towing
I didnt think you were allowed to dump gray water out at camp grounds or boondocking/sites. Why are you telling people to just dump it? So many people are slobs and have no camping etiqette. Is it because they are taking bad advice like that?
It is probably more sanitary than going the bathroom outside but you never did that huh?...Slow your roll there Karen. 🤯
What campgrounds do you go to that doesn’t allow dumping grey water tanks? Sounds pretty wonky to me. If you mean dumping the outside kitchen sink water, I think it’ll be ok lol
@@ledwallet1944 wow you must be one of the slobs doing it. You feel better calling me a Karen for your own bad camping habits, be my guest. Only makes you look like the one everyone loathes that can't follow basic known camping rules.
@@robdurfee6861 Gray water is not as bad as the black water but it is still not legal to dump in camp grounds or out in our national or state parks or other outdoor boondocking locations. Gray water is soapy water with food particles in it and can have negative impacts on the environment whether you use biodegradable soaps and dish detergent. We are camping to enjoy the beauty of nature and not hurt the land or the animals that live on it. When you camp you're supposed to leave the environment the same as when you found it. Disposing of Gray water by just dumping it on the ground can change the environment. It all starts with the soil. Plants depend on the native soils natural pH balance and ability to absorb moisture in order to thrive. Gray water contains chemicals and oils that can affect the natural balance and function of the soil, and this in turn affects the ability of native vegetation to thrive. Dumping RV grey water in areas with natural water sources like streams and rivers or lakes nearby can encourage algae. Algae can choke out the natural occurring species. Algae blooms can make water toxic to animals. Federal law might allow for The dumping of wash water but state laws will supersede the federal law in many states do not allow dumping Gray water.
Gray water is to be disposed of properly. You cannot dump gray water directly on the ground thinking that soapy water wouldn't be a problem. But it's generally not the case. It is illegal to dump gray water in anything other than an approved sewage system in most places. Gray water has food particles oil soaps and even oils from the skin which can devastate vegetation. It can damage the environment and make that location unappealing for future campers.
58 million people camped at least once in 2022 from what I can quickly Google. If everyone of them thought they alone were so special that dumping their Gray water tank would not hurt anything then what happens after 58 million Gray water dumps into the same basic locations in camp sites and authorized state and federal camp sites, BLM sites etc. 58 million are people that camped at least once. How many camp an entire season or full time and they continually dump their gray tanks wherever they want. Our land will no longer be something you want to camp on and the animals may die or their habitats be destroyed and their food sources etc. All because you all think you are so very special and dumping your soapy dirty gray tank is no big deal.
`short term couples camper.
No to Coleman AC unit🥴 No access to the bath or bedroom when slid is in🥴
The caveat, "well equipped". There are towing packages in half tons that will take the pin weight, but unless you order from the dealer, they are hard to find. I bought an Eagle HT, and went for a 1 ton and i'm not looking back.
That might be a bit overkill.
It really depends if you are going across the country with the truck completely full of crap....or driving an hour from your house with you and your dog. People try to make it too cut and dry but it isn't.
That said. I wouldn't tow this with a half ton....even if equipment was good on the truck. Windy days....people under estimate the importance of having a heavy truck to combat the wind. A light enough half ton (light enough to have available payload) would be a real nightmare in the wind.
@@wadebrewer7212: PPL also tend to negate the problem of wind turbulance with semi-trucks barreling down the interstates and the amount of wind they generate. Just came off a wrecked 1/2 ton towing a brand new TT that wound up jack knifed because of wind turbulence from a passing semi that caused the trailer to fishtail.
The half ton truck towable is simply false advertising.
Under bed storage?????
my ram classic 1500 payload is only 1400 pounds, No thanks
Its half ton towable till you hit wind
Warning to all tall people: you will not fit in these. These things are not meant for folks over 6ft. Your roof will hit the roof… 😅
I know, I'm 6'4", and Jaycos are just too short upstairs
That is why we sold our Jayco. I’m 5’11” and husband is 6’4”, didn’t work for us.
RV dealers will lie straight to your face just to sell you a camper. 1,610lbs is the dry hitch weight. This is pushing the limits of most half ton trucks already . Add in anything you put in the truck to go camping and you are probably already over payload. Not only is it dangerous, but some insurance companies will not cover you if you are over weight. Not worth it.
not Half-Ton towable really at all, I dont know any half ton that would handle it safely
Never press your luck over weight towing sucks!
Comments below are correct - There is no such thing as a fifth wheel rv that is safely 1/2 ton towable. You u tube people claim to be doing this to help people. If that's true then start telling people if they are going to tow a fifth wheel consider everyones' safety (including their own) and do not consider a 1/2 ton for fifth wheels. It's just not safe. Even less safe when some pissant sales man sells a newbie on the premiss that this would be OK. IT'S NOT!!!
We’ve only seen one small 5th wheel that can be towed by a half ton truck. KZ makes a small one and we seen it being tow by a half ton Ram. Other than that we wished the manufacturers would stop calling these small 5th wheels “ half ton”. When we review small 5th wheels, we always say that a 3/4 ton truck would be better. We don’t work for a dealership so all we can do is suggest a bigger truck.
First thing on my list is the oven. Why did they put a dinky easy bake oven in a fulltime RV???
Second: hate the designated tv space, but big fan of pocket doors. Most 5th wheels I gave watched on RUclips have east to west bedrooms so you get that nice closer along the front cap of the RV. I wouldn't buy this one. My family has owned Jayco RVs and they had much better floorplans.
It's for couples. Guess since we have a son we need to find something else.
Not Remotely half ton towable. Not even close.
Why is everyone saying this? The Ram 1500 Big horn will pull it by just under a 1000 pounds full loaded
@@jasoncaruso9510…. Payload bud
What’s the payload on this mythical ram you keep speaking of?
Good luck stopping in a hurry....@@jasoncaruso9510
Crappy small oven. Just looked at a Rockwood comparable, with a full size oven. C'mon Jayco!
There is no such thing as an half ton towable fifth wheel no mater what half ton period!!
I have a 2010 3/4 ton Dodge 4 door king cab long wheel base heavy duty Hemi , I think this one would max her out am I incorrect?
🪦 Horrible advice & just another crap made trailer…
Are there any trailers that are not crap made?