its important to notice, that in this game people is aware that there are 2 wolves, giving them already information... in reality people dont even know they are playing this game and are unaware of the qty of wolves.
Well it’s about 3% by population. If you must know. However you can endlessly generate them via privation. I think the real villains are the lies villagers tell each other and themselves though. That they let drive them. They only really have to like themselves more than they like you. There’s this idea that humans are fundamentally good. A lot of Enlightenment thinkers thought that. Whereas a lot of collectivists thought people were fundamentally evil. Well in reality, it’s far easier to choose to be evil than good. There are 3% who are born ailing from malady of the mind. More who acquire it young. The conclusions of enlightenment thinkers allows for the most to choose approximate good most efficiently however. Funny how that ruse was pulled. Now villagers are naive, dependent, and weak. Because they don’t know what they are capable of. The strong on the other hand are considered werewolves because they don’t know what actual werewolves look like. And so those capable of both strength and compassion are the most susceptible to accepting that accusation. To failing to be what they ought.
Jesus said this, according to Luke ”For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.“ Luke 8:17 I genuinely feel bad for people thinking God is not omnipresent. I mean, I been there but I ain’t going back either lol
@@mffthefrog1307 no, that’s incorrect You can’t count anything Jesus says as useless until you disprove Him. No one has ever disproved Jesus, ask C.S. Lewis There are 7 types of light known to man, 6 are invisible to the naked eye. Don’t deceive yourself friend, put in the work If you genuinely want to know God, He’s made it incredibly easy & He will bear witness of Himself by His Holy Spirit ”Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”“ John 3:3-8
@@uncoolgnome6840 No it was called Mafia first lmao. It was also called "City in Palermo" or Night falls in Palermo" in much of Europe. And again this used the Mafia theme. Andrew Plotkin was the first person to add the Werewolf theme to it a decade later because he found it more fitting with the hiding and killing at night. The Werewolf theme has obviously never taken off as large because the game still is mostly referred to by Mafia.
This is weird since any villagers with a smart person would've came up with a damned code to figure out the wolves. The wolves would've pretended and acted more friendly. The regular villager's would've been quietly wondering.
Nah among us has task and things to do. It's town of Salem you kill at night and then the villagers pick someone to linch, and like in town of Salem the villagers have no chance to walk in on the killer and report them. That's why it's easier to beat the killers in among us.
Well even that can’t be just stated without a caveat. Some of the worst and most radical and racist ideologies come from universities. Get an education but not an indoctrination
@@johnathonrouse7581 that’s great for you, but I wasn’t referring to your personal experience. I’m talking about trends and history. Marxism, communism, and other ideologies that have resulted in millions of deaths have come out of sects of ideology in universities.
@briant6532 ah. You're one of those Buddy. Class conscientiousness reduces levels of racism , as it allows people to see most forms of division are caused deliberately by the wealthy elite as per violence and deaths caused. There are a lot of factors going into it. Just keep keep in mind that the freest and fairest society renowned anti authoritarian George Orwell had ever traveled to was a communist one
Interesting! Never knew the origin, and I never heard it called werewolf before! I grew up playing this and we always called it Mafia, Assassin, and once I heard it be referred to as Silent Killers. We played it in Sunday school but replaced the werewolves and villages with Jedi and Sith. We also added a medic element who would wake up after the “Sith” killed and went back to sleep, and the medic would point at someone to save them. If the person the medic picked was the one the Sith killed, that person would be saved. If the medic picked the wrong person, then obviously whoever the Sith picked would die. In high school we played a version of this and my history teacher would use the deaths as a fun teaching method and teach us about ancient ways people used to kill each other ritualistically. He was a cool teacher.
Yeah I’ve heard a Batman version where the commissioner was the one who saves but the main version I know is mafia, sheriff who checks people out each night to see if they are the mafia, and the doctor who saves.
It's kind of sad that most people are more Interested in naming and dating the game.Just goes to show even when informed the majority choose not to understand but argue banality.
Even if the majority was to be given the information they need, not everyone but a major percentage would stick to their beliefs and information they have. Majority of people are stubborn, egotistical and arrogant i.e. not open to listen let alone adopt new information or belief.
This video is soooo interesting. (Never heard of the game before.) And so simple. For one thing, it ably explains why the first target of a burgeoning elite is mass-education. By way of extension, the more ignorant become the masses, the more power gets concentrated until-like the Sun King, an Emperor or a Czar-it ends up in a single pair of hands. This is the battle the US is fighting at the moment. Fighting for it’s life!
And this game is being played on the western world right now. The woke agenda, the importation of unwanted migrants, all the propaganda against whites, and all the cancel culture is part of the game.
@@seabas12 Yes bro I realized but the real life game is called mafia. You don't go to a party and be like "hey guys wanna play among us in real life? 🤓🤓" do you?
government actually tired to pull the “ uk hasn’t got enough troops” card but not even 2-1 weeks ago they announced their sending another 2 billion to ukrane 😂😂😂
We always called it "Mafia," but we added two roles: the Doctor and the Policeman. The doctor can prevent a murder by chosing someone to save (if he/she pickes the right person) and the Policeman can preemptively stop the Mafia by picking the right person to investigate.
In Italy we call it Lupus, and it's like the guy explains it. Except for some different figures, like the "curious child" who's the only villager allowed to open her eyes by night without getting noticed by wolves lest she gets killed. It's a very fun game to do.
Basically Werewolf, Mafia, Town of Salem are different versions of the same game, and each has their own extra roles, mostly for villagers because, as was said in the video, without those roles villagers lose most of the times
Good day to you sir. If you and your friend gets chosen as werewolves. You understand how you know all the others are villagers, right. That is the information he means. Noone else knows who is a werewolf and who is a villager. The werewolves know. They thereof have hidden information. There is no problem with knowing the accuracy of that information. What you're probably referring to is the information the other players give you during the game. That is not the hidden information that gives the advantage that was the main point of the clip. If not then please elaborate. Sincere regards.
@@user-gh9cs9xu8f I was just referring to the fact he was commenting about the nature of the game. That an uninformed group is dangerous. I’m simply saying that it’s also just as dangerous to have an “informed” group of its fake or twisted information, which unfortunately our society is riddled with.
Pretty straight forward tbh. If Obama, for example, supports it. You do the opposite. Because he is essentially Satan. Same goes for Hillary Clinton, Justin Trudeau etc. If a group of demons want you to do something, you do the opposite. It’s actually never been more clear.
I understand where you're coming from, and it is a good thought to keep in mind, but the word "informed" implies proper and correct information. Essentially, the game is proving the point that you are making here
im replaying this bcs if i commented it would get lost. about the moral of the game (information and lack of it) its bs, bcs it demonstrates power dominance, not dominance of information bcs they already know same thing, that there are 2 werewolf
@@savadoveIt’s a game mode in the sandbox game “Garry’s Mod” with a similar premise. There are some amount of traitors whose objective it is to kill all of the innocents. The traitors know who is on their team or not. The innocents have to kill the traitors but they don’t know who is on their side or not. Also everyone has guns. Among Us follows a similar premise, and it seems like both were derived from either Mafia/Werewolf or something similar.
@@OcesnepXav 2 imposters with rounds of conversation to find them how in the world would you classify that as very different that’s like saying then shape of a 🏀 and ⚽️ ball are very different
@@DP-gb8quonly problem with your comparison is that in among us you can see the imposter actively kill and you're able to report it, in mafia/werewolf no one is able to see who killed who
@@DP-gb8qu also you can watch people do tasks to clear them or to get them voted out which makes it so that you can counteract the imposters and inform the majority.
I mean... one is a card game and the other is on a pc/mobile. Of course it has to be more to make it interesting. But it's pretty much the same idea. So maybe the among us creators knew about this experiment
“AmongUs” before it was digital. I played this version, but we called it “mafia” and there was a “doctor” and a “sheriff” who could save/investigate people during the night.
I played mafia and werewolf exactly once each. I wish more people played games like these in college than being on their phone or going out for a smoke during breaks.
among us was based off social games like this one. werewolf (mafia as it’s sometimes called) has been around since the 90’s, maybe earlier. among us was just the first version that’s actually fun for more than 8 minutes
There are several of these games, "one night werewolf", the expansion pack " ultimate werewolf", " town of Salem" (online game), "Mafia", etc... Even "among us" (online) and "good cop, bad cop" are similar. My teen LOVES these games and we often play them in large group game nights. This is an interesting view of the game and I agree with it 100%. We actually use these games for critical thinking and debate. I do remember when we started learning these games I looked at my husband and said "oh crap, we are teaching our kids how to lie" 🤣 To win the game (no matter the side you are on) you need to employ statistics, reasoning, probability, debate, persuasion, lying, keeping a poker face, etc.... your teammates are pretty important too and leading is another skill in this. There is a lot to be learned while playing these games.
“you ever heard of werewolf?” “no.” “ok well have you ever heard of Among Us?” “oh yeah.” edit: the reason i chose among us to reference was because it was at least relevant in the past few years, my bad i didn’t know about a 40 year old game.
English speakers call it werewolves, in Poland we call it Mafia and i gotta say it's an entertaining bonding experience, a good brain exercise, a group psychological adventure and it holds so much potential as we would always add characters with their own roles assigned to them. Love this game, too bad i dont get to play it anymore
English speaker here, I've always called it Mafia, but a friend of mine who is also an English speaker but was raised pretty far from me calls it Werewolf
I'm an English speaker and I immediately opened up the comments to see who remembers it as mafia. We also had added rules tho such as sheriff's and nurses and a jury etc. the more people playing the better
The game is also called Mafia. The guy missed one important thing. Then everyone closes their eyes, the mafia guys can open their eyes and see who is mafia. The game is super interesting.
That is what he says , because minority of people have hidden information, they can manipulate others who dont know the information to kill each others
@@Touchybananawhen night comes, the mafia members open their eyes again and point to the person they want to kill, it's possible that they disagree but usually the godfather have the last say, after that the person who's making sure no one is cheating ask everyone to open their eyes and give them the news, of course there are lots of different possibilities but this is the simple answer to your question
If I'm not mistaken point of both is same, though through time they differ from each other, as i recall mafia has certain amount of roles, when werewolf nowadays have almost everyone with different role but werewolves still bad guys
I played a game like this in middle school called “Psycho”. Same rules, but only one killer, or psycho, in a group of 15 kids. Shoutout to Mrs. Harper for arranging the games at recess.
I know it by the name of “Mafia” and it was one of my go-to games when I was teaching musical theatre to kids. We also had a couple other roles including “medic” where they could choose someone to save, and “detective” where they could guess if someone was the werewolf and if they got it right they’d have to convince everyone else who the actual werewolf was during the group meeting without giving away their role. It gets people thinking and problem solving, and specifically gets them paying attention to body language and non verbal clues. I think it’s actually a wonderful lesson in how to read people when they’re lying or withholding info.
In the swiss version someone is the "peaky girl" or "insomniac" and they are allowed to peak. Then theres the hunter who can take someone with themselves when they die, then cupid who can make 2 People fall in love and if one dies then both die, then the witch that can rescue someone on the brink of deatg once and kill someone once. Then theres the "seer" that can check one persons role each night. I also think theres a thief that can switch roles with someone.
YESSS when I was in band back in middle school and high school I would always play this game it was so much fun because half of us would just pick to kill our friends.
The student's name was Dimitry Davidoff, and he invented it as a way of teaching psychology to high school students (who he was teaching at the same time as getting his college education). He originally conceived of it as "Mafia", which is a name it is still widely known by today. It was Andrew Plotkin, an American game designer, who came up with the name Werewolf.
I can see why it's so popular the premise is very intriguing and a poignant and fun way of teaching. They got some bright thinkers over there in Russia.
There’s also One Night Ultimate: Werewolf. Even Vampire and Alien as expansions. Each player has a role to do during the night phase, except villagers never wake up. The Seer looks at a players card, the troublemaker exchanges cards between two other players, etc. So! You may very well have STARTED as a werewolf, but if there’s a troublemaker or a robber, you may not be that anymore. It’s pretty insane
He’s talking about a simpler version of mafia. I guess that’s why the villagers have information gathering abilities though. Otherwise the mafia would always win. One night warewolf is very fun though I’ve never tried the expansion
There are many games like this. The one I usually played was called mafia, but there was one killer; one sheriff, and one medic. Mafia is the murderer, sheriff is a good guy who can also kill who he thinks is the murderer, and the medic can save/protect a person and prevent them from getting killed
Us Germans have a variation as well: Numbers of werewolf's depend on the players, usually a 5:1 ratio. Within the villagers there are normally 2 witches, each having a potion of murder and one of healing, a thief wich can steal your card, a hunter who can take out another player if he's eliminated, a armour who makes 2 people's lives connected (if one player dies the other does to, there is always only one pair of loved ones) and a mayor who is elected by everyone on day 0 and has his regular vote plus a extra vote. All in all, this can possibly lead to: 1 Werewolf kill 2 Witch kills 1 Hunter kill 1 Loved one suicide 1 Vote kill All in all that's 6 players out in day one. Very cool
I once played a version where we had double roles and I was a lover (dies when the other lover dies) and a suicidal person (at night is just one of the villagers, but if is killed by the villagers during the day - winns whole game). I stirred villagers into believing that my lover lied and was actually a mafia member, they believed me and sentenced her, what killed me by proxy and I won😂😂😂😂.
In Belgium we have this: 2 warewolfs 1 witch 1 cupid Villagers (depends how many there are playing) And 1 sheriff (I think, I haven't played it in a long time) The witch can kill one person and protect one person from getting killed for one round. The cupid can pair up 2 people to be in love, when one partner dies, the other one dies too.
Here in Belgium it’s a popular childrens/teenagers game too. We usually have a few more characters added too, among the villagers: a peeping tom, who is allowed to secretly open their eyes during the night; a mayor, whose vote counts for two; a witch, who has the ability to revive someone, or kill an extra person; etc.
Same! I grew up in canada tho haha, played this game loads as a kid/teen at summer camp and stuff. We called it werewolf, but did a game almost identical called Mafia (which didn't have the doctor, witch, sheriff xtras)
You can use playing cards or dedicated cards for those rolls. One Night Werewolf is a spinoff game with loads of roles. Town of Salem and Blood on the Clocktower are similar social deduction games with lots of roles and new rules as well.
I always knew this as Mafia, and at Camp, we would play with the: Mafia, the killer The angel, who can save one person And the milkman, who can give someone milk( it’s pointless) And it would go for multiple rounds until they voted out the mafia or oh, but (predetermined number) villagers died. But then I recently discovered a game called One Night werewolf, which has many roles, is run by an app, the werewolf doesn’t kill someone, but instead they have to get the villagers to convince them that the werewolf is someone else.
In Spain we call la puta (the prostitute) but we keep our eyes open. There IS a killer, a police, a prostitute and rest are civilians. The killer kills winking his eye to a civilian, if he winks at the police he looses, if the police sees him wink he looses too. The civilians do nothing and the prostitute can revive someone by throwing a kiss
i think the point of a milkman is that he delivers at night and if a person is mafia he can't be out and killing at that night. So if milkman delivered to someone and no one got killed you know who is mafia
Better yet, don't tell anyone if they killed a villager or a werewolf and they only find out when a set number of turns passes. Give the wolves an opportunity to not kill overnight sometimes. If the game doesn't end immediately, the villagers may continue to kill even after both wolves are dead. Let's take the sociopathy deeper, guys
@@JokingAroundInternetyou have to basically decide collectively “okay no one has died for three nights, I think we won” but then the strategy is to kill one person as a werewolf then just go dead silent, so you have to have a maximum number of nights before the werewolf starves or something
There's an online game that's very similar with many other variables you can add if wanted called Town Of Salem. You can add things like a jailer who can jail someone for the night, a sheriff who has a gun with 3 shoots and can kill someone they suspect but if the person is innocent they die instead.
That would just be a zero sum game then... because everyone would be paranoid that the wolves are still out there and keep killing and turning on each other
this is in fact how you play it; I've never heard of anyone playing it the way he's describing here. The judge isn't supposed to reveal the identity of the dead until either party wins.
I'm from Germany. Here the game "Werwolf" is really popular, especially among young people, teens and kids. There is also a variant called "murder in Palermo", which referes to the Italian Mafia.
What is interesting is asking people why they chose the people they did. The individual styles of profiling and understanding of hierarchy, strategy are really fascinating.
As someone who's won a game of this with about 20 players, this is true. It gets so intense when there just 3 of us left and you have to keep your cool and manipulate a villager to vote out the other
That's why the wolves in society recruit movie stars and celebrities, and recently doctors and trusted professionals to push their agendas and endorse certain people.
I love these kind of stories. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer people having the realisation that this type of thing is played out in real life and is indicative of human nature.
I think everyone knows. That’s why political leaders fear monger. They can secure elections by dehumanizing their opponents and in turn the people who support the opposition. Just had a friend say “okay after this election we should really change this government stuff cause no one is happy about what’s going on” He fears he has to wait because he’s afraid of his team losing even though he doesn’t support who he’s voting for. Tbh I feel like this will never change. Listen to most Americans. Most if not all say the government needs to improve significantly no matter who they vote for and admit they aren’t happy. It won’t happen till the people are sick enough to actually do something.
@@ronrico2620 That has nothing to do with it. People can't just disregard their own personal responsibilities to their families, based on an ideal that we generally don't agree with. That's insanely foolish.
"Werewolf" is the commercial game you can buy with fancy cards. But many Americans have been playing it for decades without printed cards and rules. We also call it Mafia.
@@Bminutes And in the game werewolves don't kill randomly either. The two werewolves pick someone together. They are a conspiracy working together. This clip literally talks about that aspect.
We called it mafia in my youth group, and we also had a doctor and three police officers. The police officers would wake up and point at someone to inquire whether or not they were mafia. The narrator would either nod or shake their head. The police officers couldn't reveal the information to the townspeople directly, but they could use the information to sway the vote on who to kill. The doctor would be the third to wake up. There is only one and they would point at a townsperson they want to save. If they pointed at the person the mafia attacked, they would survive and the narrator would say the mafia tried to kill them but the doctor saved them. Super fun game for a large group. Especially if you have a funny, creative person like we did to do the narrating. He would make up creative stories about how the people died and stuff. It was lots of fun.
Thank you for reminding me about this original format. I was having a hard time remembering bc everytime I listened to this short, it made me forget more about the fun I had playing. We used to do a northern gangster accent. Like from New York or jersey, and refer to the doctor as a nurse. Nurse is funny to say in this accent. Like, nooice
I only ever had 1 police officer not 3 and people could say “I’m the police officer” but it endangered them and/or risked the real officer calling them out if it was a lie
Yeah , I played both games and they are almost the same , just the characters a bit different, also for both werewolf and mafia there was cupid, for werewolf cupid was a bad character because he linked the lives of two people and if one was killed the other died too , for mafia I don't remember if the role was good or bad, also for werewolf there were Red Riding Hood , the Mayor and the Hunter, and some other but i don't remember and every one of the characters (except the villagers) , for example if the hunter was alive the Red Riding Hood would still be alive even if she was chosen to be killed because you can't kill her if the Hunter is alive . For Mafia I remember there were other roles but I can't remember sorry 😅
Werewolf and Mafia are so similar and there are lots of extra characters in both but the difference technically is that werewolf has at least one partner and all werewolves know who the others are. Mafia traditionally only has one killer.
@@paplooEscobar It is the same rules. a set of impostors have to kill crewmates until there's at least as many of the impostors and crewmates left (since that's when they can't be voted out anymore so they auto win) And you can also make a vote where you could throw an innocent out. Yes, Werewolf (Or Mafia, if you're playing the russian version) came first, but it is definitely "the same" game concept in among us too. Only instead of everyone taking turns there's a visual aid and tasks to do to distract people.
@AndrevusWhitetail no it's not, you are a sped. They have some rules that are the same, doesn't make them the same. Cheese and milk come from cows, are they the same? Use your fxcking brain u mong
You missed the entire point of the game though, whereas in among us you actually have clues that lead you to suss out the impostor here you have nothing and have to rely on uninformed judgement. They are nothing alike since one is meant to be a thought experiment and the other a game .
We have a witch, i forgot the name but someone who can choose to see a person’s card, a little girl, she spies on the werewolves when they open their eyes. And i think that's it, i’m French btw and those are legit roles, buy the card game "loup garou" and you’ll see that they actually exist
Yep... this is how it's done and the basis of national psyops. The control of information is pivotal for all control because any narrative or social manipulation is weighted on the side of information holder.. a distinct advantage.
The villagers are even given a handicap by letting them know if they did kill a werewolf or not. Imagine if they had no way of knowing they got the right people unless the attacks stopped.
The board game version of this game, which includes other roles like seer, guard, etc..., have a rule which prevents the person who runs the game from telling the villagers if they killed the right person or not
@@GasolineOnBreadThere is a board version? We also were playing whith roles (ofen homebrew ones) but we were just using a deck of cards like for the poker as a roles. Of course, there were hiden from other player. And in my country we are still calling this "mafia"
Well they do all the time, they just get voted and smeared out of office. When Madison Cawthorne exposed secret parties amongst Democrats and Republicans, he was forced out of congress.
The one thing he failed to mention is the math that has been done subsequently on this game. It turns out in order to have a greater than 50% chance of villagers winning, the number of werewolves needs to be less than the square root of the number of villagers. This gets really mind boggling at large numbers when you consider 101 werewolves have better odds than 10,000 villagers.
It's not mind boggling at all, the 101 werewolves have the advantage of knowing who their teammates are meanwhile the villagers have to assume everyone else is guilty by default... It also doesn't actually work out at that scale, never gonna get 10,000 people to cooperate or sus out the werewolves.
@@DrakeOolawhich is a good argument as for why humanity will fail. The power system gives a group of people control, and the remaining billions are too ill-informed to do anything about it.
I'm pretty sure that maths is kind of flawed. Based on that maths if there's 4 villagers at the start and 2 werewolves, 6 people total. There's a 50% chance of werewolves winning. There's a lot of games based on this, and I can tell you that in this scenario, werewolves win nearly 100% of the time. If I had to guess, the maths equation assumes some level of perfect play, which is rarely ever the case.
@@netecrivernetecassassins2945it’s entirely dependent then upon the altruism of the “informed minority”. Which is kind of the whole name of the game when it comes to democracy. Empowering the correct “werewolves” as it were.
To everybody saying "Among us" and other such games. Its also called the movie "The thing". The movie has the same premise and is one the greatest movies of all time.
I had no idea it was from a sociology student haha Playing loups-garous feel so seriously now haha but to be honest the werewolves are often caught fast ,(or my Friends are incredibly bad at being werewolves wo knows)
Not only that - it rips away the fundament of democracy as being the best of the worst - it’s just the worst among the worst. Then again it’s just a game 😇
Similar examples occur in the world. The police know there are criminals, the criminals know who their accomplices are. If they were to try catch them at random they would fail. The only way to catch them is by getting more information.
That's how more recent versions do it, at the very least there is one "detective" who can investigate one person each round. If they find a werewolf they have to convince the others without being so obvious that the werewolves kill them next round.
This seems to prove an idea that might be intuitive for many people but it would be fascinating to see the sociologists response to challenges as to whether the game actually proves his thesis.
This is the exact concept of the PC game called Town of Salem. In that case, it was Townies vs either Mafia or Witches depending on the game mode. 15 people total, 3 or 4 are Mafia or witches, then there were 2 Neutral Evils like a werewolf, serial killer, jester, executioner and many other roles.
@@bluelemonade415 You have to think about what came first, the concept has been put into game form over and over again. Town of Salem came decades later. Doesn't make it bad, just not original. But things don't have to be fully original to be good.
For the werewolves the game is about a strategy of not messing up and playing the villagers against each other. For the villagers it is a game of observation, luck but also ironically trust. Who do they trust and why. As part of the Werewolf team, we've once won the game by sacrificing a Werewolf. Like, one made an argument for why he "believed" the other one was a werewolf. The other defended himself by claiming that the other is the Werewolf and he's only making that accusation to protect himself. The irony was, both spoke the truth, both of us were Werewolves and the entire purpose of this play was to have the rest of the villagers completely trust the surviving one to not be a Werewolf. It worked. But for it to work you cannot break the act.
Last time I played it (27 years ago...), one girl was very vocal about who's the werewolf (robber in our version). But during third ( or so) game she was very quiet. I knew she was a robber, managed to convince others and won 😊 It's really cool game!
What he said in the video really doesn't make any sense about the game. The villagers, assuming the werewolves don't suck at lying, will always be at the way more likely to loose since the odds are stacked against them. The chance of picking a werewolf at its highest is 40% right at the end of the game and that requiers that all villagers vote for the werewolf since the other werewolf could tie the vote and win the game if even one of the remaining 3 villagers vote for someone else. In among us you can get information from cameras and the location of other players, in werewolf you are just shooting blind and trying to beat the odds.
we play with many mods. one of them is a “shapeshiter” who wakes up and functions as a werewolf, but is actually on the villagers side. they have to throw werewolves under the bus while deflecting both werewolves and villagers suspicions.
Yo, we used to play that when I was a kid. But it was pretty much there was one killer and one detective. The detective got to ask questions of whoever he wants to ask questions of. And then he was able to remember people from the group. If you didn't get the killer, the game continued
Yeah, with only these rules as he described, it's kind of a silly game. There's literally nothing to it but guesswork. The villagers don't know anything at all. It doesn't matter what they say and how long they discuss. Every day it comes down to a random choice. Kinda bad game tbh.
@@ZZubZZero well, actually newer versions of the game have "doctors" or "witches" or "seers" that can protect or reveal one person. Revealing isnt as good as it sounds because the werewolves could always target the seer or claim the seer is lying. (This works best if the roles arent revealed upon death)
@@ZZubZZerowhich is EXACTLY equivalent to laymen trying to weigh in on important decisions related to specialized information in the real world... underlines why we don't need Joe Shmoes opinion on vaccines, or global warming AND EVEN suggests democracy is stupid (which is really is)
Exactly. If you had a werewolf in your village back then thats exactly how it would go down. Someone died in the night and in the morning everyone is pointing fingers...
In Greece, we call this game "Night in Palermo". The two werewolves are the murderers, one of them is the known killer and the other is the secret killer. But there's more: Other than the villagers, one player is a cop (who knows the known killer, but needs to tread carefully because he can be killed by the secret killer if he makes his role obvious) and another player is the prostitute (who knows the secret killer and works with them, but the secret killer can sacrifice the prostitute to keep his identity secret). Also, roles are assigned using a deck of cards, so if you shuffle well it's basically random each time.
Highly popular game in Russia, they call it "Mafia"
It switched to werewolves when it went onto an app to play.
@@kitkakittehNope, I've been playing the game for years and it's been called Werewolves for as long as I know.
Mafia is a more complex version of it isn't it?
@@Arkantos117 I can't remember significant differences, but last time it was twenty years ago, and I'm not sure 😎
Same in Poland. Some great times I've had playing it ^^
Werewolf, Mafia, Town of Salem, Among Us, we as humans just love social deduction games
I wanna add The Resistance to your good list.
The game in OP has no deduction. There's no info to go off of.
@@broobit7540 The technical "deduction" in Werewolf is just trying to figure out if someone's lying to you, more than anything else
Mafia was a really fun game in high-school.
@broobit7540 did you listen to how the game works? If you cant figure the simole game out thats on you
its important to notice, that in this game people is aware that there are 2 wolves, giving them already information... in reality people dont even know they are playing this game and are unaware of the qty of wolves.
Well it’s about 3% by population. If you must know. However you can endlessly generate them via privation.
I think the real villains are the lies villagers tell each other and themselves though. That they let drive them. They only really have to like themselves more than they like you.
There’s this idea that humans are fundamentally good. A lot of Enlightenment thinkers thought that. Whereas a lot of collectivists thought people were fundamentally evil.
Well in reality, it’s far easier to choose to be evil than good. There are 3% who are born ailing from malady of the mind. More who acquire it young. The conclusions of enlightenment thinkers allows for the most to choose approximate good most efficiently however.
Funny how that ruse was pulled. Now villagers are naive, dependent, and weak. Because they don’t know what they are capable of. The strong on the other hand are considered werewolves because they don’t know what actual werewolves look like. And so those capable of both strength and compassion are the most susceptible to accepting that accusation. To failing to be what they ought.
Scary thought
Idk, I think some of us know we are in this game.
@@dorian_anna ah yes but not everyone, I would say we are the minority
If more are waking up?
DAMN !! What a insightful experiment...that's crazy. And true..
"When you have hidden information, you can completely manipulate a large group of people." - Well said!
Jesus said this, according to Luke
”For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.“ Luke 8:17
I genuinely feel bad for people thinking God is not omnipresent. I mean, I been there but I ain’t going back either lol
Like the laws our government make after laws they make for the public.
@@CJ-dt5mhYou can’t count it as useful information until you prove it
So whats the hidden information?
@@mffthefrog1307 no, that’s incorrect
You can’t count anything Jesus says as useless until you disprove Him. No one has ever disproved Jesus, ask C.S. Lewis
There are 7 types of light known to man, 6 are invisible to the naked eye. Don’t deceive yourself friend, put in the work
If you genuinely want to know God, He’s made it incredibly easy & He will bear witness of Himself by His Holy Spirit
”Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”“ John 3:3-8
1991: Oh you mean "Mafia."
2015: Oh you mean "Town of Salem."
2020: Oh you mean "Among Us."
2024: Oh..."Werewolf?" Sounds like a fun game.
It was always called werewolf you just havent heard of the named since most people called it mafia
Bro acts like it was invented this year 😂
werewolf was super popular in 2017 lmao
@@uncoolgnome6840 No it was called Mafia first lmao. It was also called "City in Palermo" or Night falls in Palermo" in much of Europe. And again this used the Mafia theme.
Andrew Plotkin was the first person to add the Werewolf theme to it a decade later because he found it more fitting with the hiding and killing at night.
The Werewolf theme has obviously never taken off as large because the game still is mostly referred to by Mafia.
This is weird since any villagers with a smart person would've came up with a damned code to figure out the wolves. The wolves would've pretended and acted more friendly. The regular villager's would've been quietly wondering.
In today's terminology, it's "Offline Among Us"
I swear if I go to a camp out and a scout calls Mafia/Wearwolf "Offline Among Us" that kid is going to be six feet under before the end of the night.
Town of Salem. That was widely popular before among us.
Amogus 🧯
the OG@@ItsChronoHawk
Nah among us has task and things to do. It's town of Salem you kill at night and then the villagers pick someone to linch, and like in town of Salem the villagers have no chance to walk in on the killer and report them. That's why it's easier to beat the killers in among us.
This is why education and curiosity are important traits to have.
And why there is such a strong campaign to shut those things down.
Well even that can’t be just stated without a caveat. Some of the worst and most radical and racist ideologies come from universities. Get an education but not an indoctrination
@@briant6532 I never met anyone who came back more raciT than they were before from univeristy
@@johnathonrouse7581 that’s great for you, but I wasn’t referring to your personal experience. I’m talking about trends and history. Marxism, communism, and other ideologies that have resulted in millions of deaths have come out of sects of ideology in universities.
@briant6532 ah. You're one of those
Buddy. Class conscientiousness reduces levels of racism , as it allows people to see most forms of division are caused deliberately by the wealthy elite as per violence and deaths caused. There are a lot of factors going into it.
Just keep keep in mind that the freest and fairest society renowned anti authoritarian George Orwell had ever traveled to was a communist one
in America, we call it Mafia, but now we call it Among Us
Nah, Mafia isn't what it was.. .now a days in the US it's called The Democrat Party
In Russia we call it mafia as well
It's also "Secret Hitler"
In Iran we call it mafia or spy
and you play it with a deck of cards and not have to buy a special game for it.
"Ever heard of a game called werewolf?"
"No"
"Well its just mafia"
Nah werewolves is way more fun. More roles assigned to people makes it more interesting
Idk about mafia but in France it’s called werewolf (loup-garou)
@@zapilux2278Le Werewolf
Among us :3
@@mubashirmohiuddin5346you know that you can modify the mafia and just add enough characters for almost everyone?
Interesting! Never knew the origin, and I never heard it called werewolf before! I grew up playing this and we always called it Mafia, Assassin, and once I heard it be referred to as Silent Killers. We played it in Sunday school but replaced the werewolves and villages with Jedi and Sith. We also added a medic element who would wake up after the “Sith” killed and went back to sleep, and the medic would point at someone to save them. If the person the medic picked was the one the Sith killed, that person would be saved. If the medic picked the wrong person, then obviously whoever the Sith picked would die. In high school we played a version of this and my history teacher would use the deaths as a fun teaching method and teach us about ancient ways people used to kill each other ritualistically. He was a cool teacher.
I was sure that "medic" (we had mafia and police) was always in the game XD
Yeah I’ve heard a Batman version where the commissioner was the one who saves but the main version I know is mafia, sheriff who checks people out each night to see if they are the mafia, and the doctor who saves.
We need more teachers like this..
Same
When did he say the werewolves were informed? Hid retelling of the rules seems incomplete. I had never heard of the gane before today
I think the UK reality show ‘Traitors’ is a great example of being able to see this play out over the course of a season. 💕☺️💕
"An Unimformed Majority Will Always Lose A Battle Of Information Against An Informed Minority"
Welcome To Politics!
It's kind of sad that most people are more Interested in naming and dating the game.Just goes to show even when informed the majority choose not to understand but argue banality.
Even if the majority was to be given the information they need, not everyone but a major percentage would stick to their beliefs and information they have.
Majority of people are stubborn, egotistical and arrogant i.e. not open to listen let alone adopt new information or belief.
Thats among for sure
This video is soooo interesting. (Never heard of the game before.) And so simple. For one thing, it ably explains why the first target of a burgeoning elite is mass-education. By way of extension, the more ignorant become the masses, the more power gets concentrated until-like the Sun King, an Emperor or a Czar-it ends up in a single pair of hands.
This is the battle the US is fighting at the moment. Fighting for it’s life!
And this game is being played on the western world right now. The woke agenda, the importation of unwanted migrants, all the propaganda against whites, and all the cancel culture is part of the game.
Back then: “it’s called werewolf”
Now: “it’s called among us”
No it’s called mafia now
He's talking about the video game among us and has the same rules but with a added way to win
@@seabas12 Yes bro I realized but the real life game is called mafia. You don't go to a party and be like "hey guys wanna play among us in real life? 🤓🤓" do you?
@@pokemaster6573 no id say
“Hey guys wanna play werewolf”
This
Sounds like most governments play this game on a daily basis
That was his point I believe. And the students
government actually tired to pull the “ uk hasn’t got enough troops” card but not even 2-1 weeks ago they announced their sending another 2 billion to ukrane 😂😂😂
@@yoyoyoyoyoyo6 There's 8 billion people in the world, but the UK has 67 million citizens, so a 4th of the world has offered their troops to the UK? 💀
@dash7661 How is not having enough troops at idds with sending Ukraine money?
my type of games
We always called it "Mafia," but we added two roles: the Doctor and the Policeman. The doctor can prevent a murder by chosing someone to save (if he/she pickes the right person) and the Policeman can preemptively stop the Mafia by picking the right person to investigate.
“Have you ever heard of a game called werewolves?”
“No because it’s called Mafia”
The top comment made before this wrote the same thing...hmmmm
@@alejandroduranalvarez2431no one gives one smart arse
@@alejandroduranalvarez2431not the same thing bro
In France this game is named werewolf
@ArwinHessel both say that the original is the mafia they're just frazed differently
I always knew it as “mafia” where there is two mafia killers, one detective, one doctor, and the rest are villagers
In Italy we call it Lupus, and it's like the guy explains it. Except for some different figures, like the "curious child" who's the only villager allowed to open her eyes by night without getting noticed by wolves lest she gets killed. It's a very fun game to do.
You can also play with a vigilante
@@mr.bojangles9215can you explain how the vigilante fits in the game?
i know both wersions
Basically Werewolf, Mafia, Town of Salem are different versions of the same game, and each has their own extra roles, mostly for villagers because, as was said in the video, without those roles villagers lose most of the times
Turned into a hit TV show, ‘Traitors’.
Oh is that what traitors is about
@@anthonymort5202yep it’s exactly this - it’s great!
The problem is there’s a MAJOR issue knowing what you’re being informed with and how accurate or twisted it is.
Good day to you sir.
If you and your friend gets chosen as werewolves. You understand how you know all the others are villagers, right.
That is the information he means. Noone else knows who is a werewolf and who is a villager.
The werewolves know. They thereof have hidden information.
There is no problem with knowing the accuracy of that information.
What you're probably referring to is the information the other players give you during the game. That is not the hidden information that gives the advantage that was the main point of the clip.
If not then please elaborate.
Sincere regards.
@@user-gh9cs9xu8f I was just referring to the fact he was commenting about the nature of the game. That an uninformed group is dangerous. I’m simply saying that it’s also just as dangerous to have an “informed” group of its fake or twisted information, which unfortunately our society is riddled with.
@@TenheadLifeguess you have to decide
Trust your intuition and eyes and not what others want you to believe.
Pretty straight forward tbh. If Obama, for example, supports it. You do the opposite. Because he is essentially Satan. Same goes for Hillary Clinton, Justin Trudeau etc.
If a group of demons want you to do something, you do the opposite. It’s actually never been more clear.
I understand where you're coming from, and it is a good thought to keep in mind, but the word "informed" implies proper and correct information. Essentially, the game is proving the point that you are making here
"Have you ever heard of a game called Werewolf?"
"Yes"
*video ends*
This is pure comedy and an underrated comment.
That was not the Werewolf (World of Darkness) that I had heard of and played
😂😂
😂😂😂
im replaying this bcs if i commented it would get lost.
about the moral of the game (information and lack of it) its bs, bcs it demonstrates power dominance, not dominance of information bcs they already know same thing, that there are 2 werewolf
We used to play this in elementary, but we called it "Mafia". Shoutout Mrs.Angie, you were a real one lmao
thanks
Thanks, but you were my least favorite student.....Go to the office!
les goo mrs angie 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I played Werewolf. It was a card game that we referred to as Ultimate Werewolf and it had a bunch more roles
How’s that work? Is it a mob boss/Hitman instead of villager/werewolf
but they know there ARE wolfs so the quantity doesn't really matter.
In a few years, someone somewhere will ask "have you ever heard of a game called Amogus?" with a completely serious face
I dearly hope the meme name completely overwrites the real name soon
"two people are designated as what they would call a 'sussy baka'..."
@@kapitankapital6580"so...what a buffalo covered in sauce gonna do in this game exactly?"
Town of Salem came before and actually has a werewolf role...
Have you ever heard of a game called "Town of Salom"
Moral of the story: Among Us was created by a Russian sociology student 💀
Literally my first thought was among us 💀
Kids these days have never heard of trouble in terrorist town smh
@@jonbong8547 want to share your knowledge? Lol
@@savadoveIt’s a game mode in the sandbox game “Garry’s Mod” with a similar premise. There are some amount of traitors whose objective it is to kill all of the innocents. The traitors know who is on their team or not. The innocents have to kill the traitors but they don’t know who is on their side or not. Also everyone has guns. Among Us follows a similar premise, and it seems like both were derived from either Mafia/Werewolf or something similar.
@@aw3someisme469 seems like it, this version seems scarier 😂
And now we call it "Among Us"
In among us evidence can be found but not in this case
@@OcesnepXav 2 imposters with rounds of conversation to find them how in the world would you classify that as very different that’s like saying then shape of a 🏀 and ⚽️ ball are very different
@@DP-gb8quonly problem with your comparison is that in among us you can see the imposter actively kill and you're able to report it, in mafia/werewolf no one is able to see who killed who
@@DP-gb8qu also you can watch people do tasks to clear them or to get them voted out which makes it so that you can counteract the imposters and inform the majority.
I mean... one is a card game and the other is on a pc/mobile. Of course it has to be more to make it interesting. But it's pretty much the same idea. So maybe the among us creators knew about this experiment
So everyone in USA is Unknowingly playing this game.
“AmongUs” before it was digital.
I played this version, but we called it “mafia” and there was a “doctor” and a “sheriff” who could save/investigate people during the night.
I played mafia and werewolf exactly once each. I wish more people played games like these in college than being on their phone or going out for a smoke during breaks.
No actually its town of salem not among us.
Ah, used to play the same game with different names. We used chess related names as it was chess club.
A very interesting game indeed
AMONG US
Bro that shits town of Salem
I played this at a lunch table when I was in school, but we called our mafia
Werewolf has cards, we used to tap for mafia. Plus we had doctor and detective in ours
"Boss! We got a rat!"
I loved mafia but I was always first out I still don’t know why
“You ever hear a game called Werewolf?”
“No”
Explains…….
“Oh you mean Among Us
I was just commenting about that😂
Literally this lmao
among us was based off social games like this one. werewolf (mafia as it’s sometimes called) has been around since the 90’s, maybe earlier. among us was just the first version that’s actually fun for more than 8 minutes
Among Us definitely was based on the Russian Werewolf game.
It's just town of Salem
The saying "knowledge is power" doesn't come from nowhere
There are several of these games, "one night werewolf", the expansion pack " ultimate werewolf", " town of Salem" (online game), "Mafia", etc... Even "among us" (online) and "good cop, bad cop" are similar. My teen LOVES these games and we often play them in large group game nights. This is an interesting view of the game and I agree with it 100%. We actually use these games for critical thinking and debate. I do remember when we started learning these games I looked at my husband and said "oh crap, we are teaching our kids how to lie" 🤣
To win the game (no matter the side you are on) you need to employ statistics, reasoning, probability, debate, persuasion, lying, keeping a poker face, etc.... your teammates are pretty important too and leading is another skill in this. There is a lot to be learned while playing these games.
The fact you left out trouble in terrorist town is criminal
This sounds like basis for the BBC TV gameshow The Traitors. I didn't think I'd enjoy watching it but honestly became quickly obsessed.
"Among Us" too?
Glad you mentioned One night werewolf and ultimate werewolf. I played them both and they’re really fun!
There’s a cool game called Wolvesville that is very similar to
“you ever heard of werewolf?”
“no.”
“ok well have you ever heard of Among Us?”
“oh yeah.”
edit: the reason i chose among us to reference was because it was at least relevant in the past few years, my bad i didn’t know about a 40 year old game.
Exactly 😂
It's more like town of Salem then amoung us
Among Us and Town Of Salem are video games inspired by this original game.
What about TTT?
@@th3g00seexplaining to newborn just wasting your time brother.
Ah yes, the OG among us.
yes and no town of Salem is the right answer
I dare to differ. To quote George Carlin "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups".
You call it "Werewolf" I call it "Among Us"
fr i was about to say that
same
i call it town of salem
this was the premise of among us
I mean, that just reveals your age lol. Clearly the older name is the correct one
English speakers call it werewolves, in Poland we call it Mafia and i gotta say it's an entertaining bonding experience, a good brain exercise, a group psychological adventure and it holds so much potential as we would always add characters with their own roles assigned to them. Love this game, too bad i dont get to play it anymore
English speaker here, I've always called it Mafia, but a friend of mine who is also an English speaker but was raised pretty far from me calls it Werewolf
I speak English and have never heard it called werewolf
In america we call it mafia
I'm an English speaker and I immediately opened up the comments to see who remembers it as mafia. We also had added rules tho such as sheriff's and nurses and a jury etc. the more people playing the better
Im 9 and i call it among us
This game is also quite popular in our country. Its called "elections".
Lol Wow
Vivek for vp. A wolf in sheep's clothing. ijs
Perfectly said
@@wuttaworld wow
Rothschilds...
If you're smart enough to know you're in the game, then you should be smart enough to know you can't win.
So basically, Among Us.
This was my thought too.
The other way around...
Except this is older and killing is more sneaky as Among Us you can see a kill
its what among us is based on.
I think more Town of Salem, just with 1 non-town role.
The game is also called Mafia. The guy missed one important thing. Then everyone closes their eyes, the mafia guys can open their eyes and see who is mafia. The game is super interesting.
Nah different games in my country
Then how do they decide who to kill???
That is what he says , because minority of people have hidden information, they can manipulate others who dont know the information to kill each others
@@Touchybananawhen night comes, the mafia members open their eyes again and point to the person they want to kill, it's possible that they disagree but usually the godfather have the last say, after that the person who's making sure no one is cheating ask everyone to open their eyes and give them the news, of course there are lots of different possibilities but this is the simple answer to your question
If I'm not mistaken point of both is same, though through time they differ from each other, as i recall mafia has certain amount of roles, when werewolf nowadays have almost everyone with different role but werewolves still bad guys
Highly popular game among children, they call it "Among us"
): kids these days back in my day
I thought the same thing.
It's not, among us is cops and robbers in stealth mode
back in my day.
Yeah, though that’s a little different because you can catch them in the act.
Rules are meant to be broken - there's always the rogue villager who stays awake all night.
I played a game like this in middle school called “Psycho”. Same rules, but only one killer, or psycho, in a group of 15 kids. Shoutout to Mrs. Harper for arranging the games at recess.
Classic Mrs. Harper!✌️✌️
Same played this in year 6 I think it has different names like mafia or something played in uk
Was this in Tampa? Had a elementary teacher named MRS Harper very nice lady.
@@chriselliott5089 no, Lodi.
That sounds so familiar! I know that I've had to have played this somewhere as a child!
I know it by the name of “Mafia” and it was one of my go-to games when I was teaching musical theatre to kids. We also had a couple other roles including “medic” where they could choose someone to save, and “detective” where they could guess if someone was the werewolf and if they got it right they’d have to convince everyone else who the actual werewolf was during the group meeting without giving away their role. It gets people thinking and problem solving, and specifically gets them paying attention to body language and non verbal clues. I think it’s actually a wonderful lesson in how to read people when they’re lying or withholding info.
In the swiss version someone is the "peaky girl" or "insomniac" and they are allowed to peak. Then theres the hunter who can take someone with themselves when they die, then cupid who can make 2 People fall in love and if one dies then both die, then the witch that can rescue someone on the brink of deatg once and kill someone once. Then theres the "seer" that can check one persons role each night. I also think theres a thief that can switch roles with someone.
YESSS when I was in band back in middle school and high school I would always play this game it was so much fun because half of us would just pick to kill our friends.
You cannot truly “read” people its pseudoscience
Police too, right?
Sounds like your typical day in a toxic corporate workplace
“An uninformed majority will always lose a battle of information against an informed minority.”
I've watched the video too
@@mvo9975 I've read the comment too
wow this comment adds so much that the video couldn’t…
So why did Biden win? Why r ppl more woke..... n gay
@@mvo9975thanks fitness bro 😂 Einstein over here
In Poland this game is called "Mafia" and many youngsters and students play it. It's a lot of fun 😅
I'm american and also know the game as Mafia
В России она тоже мафией называется
Werewolf, mafia, paranoia, traitor in terrorist town, among us
@@Canodiabloin Norway do you play it as guess who has chlamydia?
No, tak, to jest Mafia.
New bloods calling it “Among us” when it’s actually “Town of Salem”
Back in the day it was TTT
@@judejameson3863mafia*
@@judejameson3863 this too yes!
It's a extremely popular game all over the world. Especially in the US. It's called Politics.
An uninformed majority will always lose the battle of information against an informed minority 👈🏻
Thank you. I didn't want to have to say it.
*AN UNINFORMED* majority will willingly sacrifice themselves for the benefit of the informed minority... is what MAGA America has taught me.
Its pretty well balanced actually
White people werewolves
exactly what is happening right now
The student's name was Dimitry Davidoff, and he invented it as a way of teaching psychology to high school students (who he was teaching at the same time as getting his college education). He originally conceived of it as "Mafia", which is a name it is still widely known by today. It was Andrew Plotkin, an American game designer, who came up with the name Werewolf.
And then later worked into a game called town of salem.
I can see why it's so popular the premise is very intriguing and a poignant and fun way of teaching.
They got some bright thinkers over there in Russia.
I was gonna say isn’t this just town of Salem
And then they saw "the Thing" and the story went to space....
Yeah, I was thinking to myself
... Mafia is the original.
There’s also One Night Ultimate: Werewolf. Even Vampire and Alien as expansions. Each player has a role to do during the night phase, except villagers never wake up. The Seer looks at a players card, the troublemaker exchanges cards between two other players, etc. So! You may very well have STARTED as a werewolf, but if there’s a troublemaker or a robber, you may not be that anymore. It’s pretty insane
I love this game
Town of Salem is the same thing with a couple extra roles and bad teams
He’s talking about a simpler version of mafia. I guess that’s why the villagers have information gathering abilities though. Otherwise the mafia would always win.
One night warewolf is very fun though I’ve never tried the expansion
Bro literally just explained and over complicated mafia 💀
My man's here describing Among Us like we don't know it.
Eh its more like town of salem then among us
The game he's talking about is very old before tv and such.
@@Zero-mz9xxthank you someone said it
There are many games like this. The one I usually played was called mafia, but there was one killer; one sheriff, and one medic. Mafia is the murderer, sheriff is a good guy who can also kill who he thinks is the murderer, and the medic can save/protect a person and prevent them from getting killed
Us Germans have a variation as well:
Numbers of werewolf's depend on the players, usually a 5:1 ratio. Within the villagers there are normally 2 witches, each having a potion of murder and one of healing, a thief wich can steal your card, a hunter who can take out another player if he's eliminated, a armour who makes 2 people's lives connected (if one player dies the other does to, there is always only one pair of loved ones) and a mayor who is elected by everyone on day 0 and has his regular vote plus a extra vote.
All in all, this can possibly lead to:
1 Werewolf kill
2 Witch kills
1 Hunter kill
1 Loved one suicide
1 Vote kill
All in all that's 6 players out in day one.
Very cool
I once played a version where we had double roles and I was a lover (dies when the other lover dies) and a suicidal person (at night is just one of the villagers, but if is killed by the villagers during the day - winns whole game). I stirred villagers into believing that my lover lied and was actually a mafia member, they believed me and sentenced her, what killed me by proxy and I won😂😂😂😂.
In Belgium we have this:
2 warewolfs
1 witch
1 cupid
Villagers (depends how many there are playing)
And 1 sheriff (I think, I haven't played it in a long time)
The witch can kill one person and protect one person from getting killed for one round. The cupid can pair up 2 people to be in love, when one partner dies, the other one dies too.
We play it in school whenever we have free time
Your thinking of Town of Salem
Here in Belgium it’s a popular childrens/teenagers game too. We usually have a few more characters added too, among the villagers: a peeping tom, who is allowed to secretly open their eyes during the night; a mayor, whose vote counts for two; a witch, who has the ability to revive someone, or kill an extra person; etc.
Same! I grew up in canada tho haha, played this game loads as a kid/teen at summer camp and stuff. We called it werewolf, but did a game almost identical called Mafia (which didn't have the doctor, witch, sheriff xtras)
Sounds pretty cool I see it surpassing Monopoly
@@jamiethehedgehog403 I mean, it's not exactly the same, but, Town of Salem is kinda similar in concept.
You can use playing cards or dedicated cards for those rolls. One Night Werewolf is a spinoff game with loads of roles. Town of Salem and Blood on the Clocktower are similar social deduction games with lots of roles and new rules as well.
I’m curious if anyone can tell me how does the peeping Tom not completely break the game can he not directly reveal what he saw or what?
The Elites...this was a clue from from the universe. Happens subtlety just like this. Pay attention
I always knew this as Mafia, and at Camp, we would play with the:
Mafia, the killer
The angel, who can save one person
And the milkman, who can give someone milk( it’s pointless)
And it would go for multiple rounds until they voted out the mafia or oh, but (predetermined number) villagers died.
But then I recently discovered a game called One Night werewolf, which has many roles, is run by an app, the werewolf doesn’t kill someone, but instead they have to get the villagers to convince them that the werewolf is someone else.
The point of the milkman is that you know he isn’t the murderer if he gives milk, so almost useless but adds slightly more strategy
In Spain we call la puta (the prostitute) but we keep our eyes open. There IS a killer, a police, a prostitute and rest are civilians. The killer kills winking his eye to a civilian, if he winks at the police he looses, if the police sees him wink he looses too. The civilians do nothing and the prostitute can revive someone by throwing a kiss
Milkman 💀
i think the point of a milkman is that he delivers at night and if a person is mafia he can't be out and killing at that night. So if milkman delivered to someone and no one got killed you know who is mafia
I AM THE MILKMAN, MY MILK IS DELICIOUS
Better yet, don't tell anyone if they killed a villager or a werewolf and they only find out when a set number of turns passes. Give the wolves an opportunity to not kill overnight sometimes. If the game doesn't end immediately, the villagers may continue to kill even after both wolves are dead. Let's take the sociopathy deeper, guys
Interesting but when do they know team A or team B won?
@@JokingAroundInternetyou have to basically decide collectively “okay no one has died for three nights, I think we won” but then the strategy is to kill one person as a werewolf then just go dead silent, so you have to have a maximum number of nights before the werewolf starves or something
There's an online game that's very similar with many other variables you can add if wanted called Town Of Salem. You can add things like a jailer who can jail someone for the night, a sheriff who has a gun with 3 shoots and can kill someone they suspect but if the person is innocent they die instead.
That would just be a zero sum game then... because everyone would be paranoid that the wolves are still out there and keep killing and turning on each other
this is in fact how you play it; I've never heard of anyone playing it the way he's describing here. The judge isn't supposed to reveal the identity of the dead until either party wins.
I'm from Germany. Here the game "Werwolf" is really popular, especially among young people, teens and kids. There is also a variant called "murder in Palermo", which referes to the Italian Mafia.
In Germany I played something similar called secret hitler
you mean "especially _among us_"?
It's really popular in Belgium as well. I was a bit confused when they said that they hadn't heard of the game.
@ZTTINGS that's what we have
yeah, we call it mafia
This sounds like among us but with actual friends lol
I've played this a lot of times, but i've never connected it to the implied motto: the power of information. Cool short.
provided your information is correct
What is interesting is asking people why they chose the people they did. The individual styles of profiling and understanding of hierarchy, strategy are really fascinating.
That’s why the MSM is so DANGEROUS and why we need Trump back in office!! #TRUMP2024
In Werewolf Online the deduction usually just falls in the hands of "it was a 50/50 but this one is more careful"
That's actually very intelligent to prove your point like that in that type of form
That’s a great game giving examples of how Democracy is flawed.
🎯
A Democracy is simply two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. And that is why America is a Republic.
The most convincing person with the most trustworthy face will always get the team on their side
As someone who's won a game of this with about 20 players, this is true. It gets so intense when there just 3 of us left and you have to keep your cool and manipulate a villager to vote out the other
The most charismatic convincing person with sociopathic tendencies
That's why the wolves in society recruit movie stars and celebrities, and recently doctors and trusted professionals to push their agendas and endorse certain people.
@@bryanr1159 interesting, what agendas are you talking about?
@@devonchafe2764 Agenda of dehumanisation and absolute control over humanity.
I love these kind of stories. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer people having the realisation that this type of thing is played out in real life and is indicative of human nature.
It really is an, they think your nuts for saying it
You underestimate the common person. It's not that we don't understand what's going on, it's just that we all have shit to do.
I think everyone knows. That’s why political leaders fear monger. They can secure elections by dehumanizing their opponents and in turn the people who support the opposition.
Just had a friend say “okay after this election we should really change this government stuff cause no one is happy about what’s going on”
He fears he has to wait because he’s afraid of his team losing even though he doesn’t support who he’s voting for. Tbh I feel like this will never change. Listen to most Americans. Most if not all say the government needs to improve significantly no matter who they vote for and admit they aren’t happy. It won’t happen till the people are sick enough to actually do something.
@@eshelmenit makes for a good distraction and excuse to be ignorant
@@ronrico2620 That has nothing to do with it. People can't just disregard their own personal responsibilities to their families, based on an ideal that we generally don't agree with. That's insanely foolish.
I'm russian and never have I heard about a game called Werewolf. That he describes it very much like Mafia game
I think Werewolf is a Western adaptation. But yes, it's the same as Mafia.
@@CristiNeaguWhile Mafia isn’t as popular in the USA, I remember some kids used to play it in fifth grade. It was called Mafia.
"Werewolf" is the commercial game you can buy with fancy cards. But many Americans have been playing it for decades without printed cards and rules. We also call it Mafia.
@@DrPepperingWerewolf is a better name, though. Mafia don’t go around killing randomly like werewolves do.
@@Bminutes And in the game werewolves don't kill randomly either. The two werewolves pick someone together. They are a conspiracy working together. This clip literally talks about that aspect.
So basically he’s saying Kamala is a werewolf… I effin knew it
Kids Call it “among us”
noooooo there's a big difference
give you young folks some credit about improving something from before the 1800s and the Russians claim it's their's
@@MWB2Bleachfan well Town of Salem is where the credit is due given it's the same game lol.
Nah its called town of salem 😂
see This person >@@user-he9ih5ss5s
We called it mafia in my youth group, and we also had a doctor and three police officers.
The police officers would wake up and point at someone to inquire whether or not they were mafia. The narrator would either nod or shake their head. The police officers couldn't reveal the information to the townspeople directly, but they could use the information to sway the vote on who to kill.
The doctor would be the third to wake up. There is only one and they would point at a townsperson they want to save. If they pointed at the person the mafia attacked, they would survive and the narrator would say the mafia tried to kill them but the doctor saved them.
Super fun game for a large group. Especially if you have a funny, creative person like we did to do the narrating. He would make up creative stories about how the people died and stuff. It was lots of fun.
Thank you for reminding me about this original format. I was having a hard time remembering bc everytime I listened to this short, it made me forget more about the fun I had playing.
We used to do a northern gangster accent. Like from New York or jersey, and refer to the doctor as a nurse. Nurse is funny to say in this accent. Like, nooice
I only ever had 1 police officer not 3 and people could say “I’m the police officer” but it endangered them and/or risked the real officer calling them out if it was a lie
Yeah , I played both games and they are almost the same , just the characters a bit different, also for both werewolf and mafia there was cupid, for werewolf cupid was a bad character because he linked the lives of two people and if one was killed the other died too , for mafia I don't remember if the role was good or bad, also for werewolf there were Red Riding Hood , the Mayor and the Hunter, and some other but i don't remember and every one of the characters (except the villagers) , for example if the hunter was alive the Red Riding Hood would still be alive even if she was chosen to be killed because you can't kill her if the Hunter is alive . For Mafia I remember there were other roles but I can't remember sorry 😅
Werewolf and Mafia are so similar and there are lots of extra characters in both but the difference technically is that werewolf has at least one partner and all werewolves know who the others are. Mafia traditionally only has one killer.
We just have one detective, no need for 3
“Have you heard of a game called werewolf”
“No”
“But you’ve heard of among us right”
Not the same u mong.
@@paplooEscobar It is the same rules. a set of impostors have to kill crewmates until there's at least as many of the impostors and crewmates left (since that's when they can't be voted out anymore so they auto win)
And you can also make a vote where you could throw an innocent out.
Yes, Werewolf (Or Mafia, if you're playing the russian version) came first, but it is definitely "the same" game concept in among us too. Only instead of everyone taking turns there's a visual aid and tasks to do to distract people.
sus
@AndrevusWhitetail no it's not, you are a sped. They have some rules that are the same, doesn't make them the same. Cheese and milk come from cows, are they the same? Use your fxcking brain u mong
You missed the entire point of the game though, whereas in among us you actually have clues that lead you to suss out the impostor here you have nothing and have to rely on uninformed judgement.
They are nothing alike since one is meant to be a thought experiment and the other a game .
Aren't dem "villagers" kinda informed, when dey know dat dea r two werewolves?
Did y’all not play this as kids?? Missing out. We had doctors and detectives as well and held very intensive trials. 10/10
Fr i was playing this in kindergarten 😂
yhh
Same here in Latvia! We call it mafia!
We have a witch, i forgot the name but someone who can choose to see a person’s card, a little girl, she spies on the werewolves when they open their eyes. And i think that's it, i’m French btw and those are legit roles, buy the card game "loup garou" and you’ll see that they actually exist
Oh ! Also, after a certain period of time villagers could vote for a mayor
Yep... this is how it's done and the basis of national psyops. The control of information is pivotal for all control because any narrative or social manipulation is weighted on the side of information holder.. a distinct advantage.
Noice Woyk
The distribution of Information we have is an inverted Pyramid.
The villagers are even given a handicap by letting them know if they did kill a werewolf or not. Imagine if they had no way of knowing they got the right people unless the attacks stopped.
The board game version of this game, which includes other roles like seer, guard, etc..., have a rule which prevents the person who runs the game from telling the villagers if they killed the right person or not
You can disable it in among us
@@GasolineOnBreadThere is a board version? We also were playing whith roles (ofen homebrew ones) but we were just using a deck of cards like for the poker as a roles. Of course, there were hiden from other player. And in my country we are still calling this "mafia"
@@tkinmotorowerowy8804 there are tons of different versions of it
One night warewolf is the most boardgamey version of Warewolf imo
@@tkinmotorowerowy8804 Yeah in our country there's a board game for this, there should be international production too
I don't want my son playing Werewolf that sounds like a game for grown ups
Exactly why no government ever tells the people the truth
Well they do all the time, they just get voted and smeared out of office. When Madison Cawthorne exposed secret parties amongst Democrats and Republicans, he was forced out of congress.
Bro among us Fr
What truth? (and how you know about it if it's secret?)
Especially the USA
you are not andrew tate bro waddle back tf out 💀💀💀
The one thing he failed to mention is the math that has been done subsequently on this game. It turns out in order to have a greater than 50% chance of villagers winning, the number of werewolves needs to be less than the square root of the number of villagers. This gets really mind boggling at large numbers when you consider 101 werewolves have better odds than 10,000 villagers.
It's not mind boggling at all, the 101 werewolves have the advantage of knowing who their teammates are meanwhile the villagers have to assume everyone else is guilty by default... It also doesn't actually work out at that scale, never gonna get 10,000 people to cooperate or sus out the werewolves.
@@DrakeOolawhich is a good argument as for why humanity will fail. The power system gives a group of people control, and the remaining billions are too ill-informed to do anything about it.
I'm pretty sure that maths is kind of flawed. Based on that maths if there's 4 villagers at the start and 2 werewolves, 6 people total. There's a 50% chance of werewolves winning.
There's a lot of games based on this, and I can tell you that in this scenario, werewolves win nearly 100% of the time.
If I had to guess, the maths equation assumes some level of perfect play, which is rarely ever the case.
@@netecrivernetecassassins2945it’s entirely dependent then upon the altruism of the “informed minority”. Which is kind of the whole name of the game when it comes to democracy. Empowering the correct “werewolves” as it were.
Among Us!!!!???
To everybody saying "Among us" and other such games. Its also called the movie "The thing". The movie has the same premise and is one the greatest movies of all time.
James Arnes version, or Kurt Russell version?
@@dolfinwriter5389 great question!, I should have made it clear. Kurt Russel/John Carpenter version.
Also is a book
One of the best sci fi movies of all time. Right up there with Star Wars, though not as glamorous.
As long as you're talking about the Kurt Russell one. 😅
we use to be the villagers but slowly becoming the werewolves
And that russian man who was in the study of sociology would one day inadvertently birth the game Among Us
Today’s politicians explained in 40 seconds.
Amazing
My first thought exactly
thats vice versa.. 100+ werewolves.. maybe 2 good ones..
Or pretty much any flavor of subversive party
It's not my first thought, not even any part of my thoughts. Now that you said it, it's eye-opening O. M. G. truth.
Your mistake is thinking that politicians just started playing this game.
Very well known in France. The game here is branded as "Les Loups-Garous de Thiercelieux" (the werewolves from Thiercelieux) and everyone knows it
In Canada it's called Mafia and everyone knows it as well
I had no idea it was from a sociology student haha
Playing loups-garous feel so seriously now haha but to be honest the werewolves are often caught fast ,(or my Friends are incredibly bad at being werewolves wo knows)
Leave it to the French to make a mouthful out a simple term
@@juanitoalcachofa3485: To be honest, I had never heard of this game before. So to say that everyone in France knows it, is a gross exaggeration.
@@jeanclaude7555tu vis dans une cave
There’s a werewolf… Among Us.
So exactly what the oligarchy and media do to the country
100%
YUuuuuuUP!
Right on!!! Right on!!!
Not only that - it rips away the fundament of democracy as being the best of the worst - it’s just the worst among the worst.
Then again it’s just a game 😇
And what Rothschild's and Rockefeller have done to the world
Similar examples occur in the world. The police know there are criminals, the criminals know who their accomplices are. If they were to try catch them at random they would fail. The only way to catch them is by getting more information.
No the police are the werewolves
That's how more recent versions do it, at the very least there is one "detective" who can investigate one person each round. If they find a werewolf they have to convince the others without being so obvious that the werewolves kill them next round.
No, as one policemas has said in his video, if it was up to police, the drug dealing would've been stopped completely.
Police are the problem
We called it Mafia and have been playing it for over 25 years
Reminds me of the board game Clue.
Reminds me of AMOGN US
I got to play it in college.
I have a copy of the game...
but not enough friends to play it
@@thejadekatana8891yeah. these predate among us, but similar idea.. sorta?
This seems to prove an idea that might be intuitive for many people but it would be fascinating to see the sociologists response to challenges as to whether the game actually proves his thesis.
This is the exact concept of the PC game called Town of Salem. In that case, it was Townies vs either Mafia or Witches depending on the game mode. 15 people total, 3 or 4 are Mafia or witches, then there were 2 Neutral Evils like a werewolf, serial killer, jester, executioner and many other roles.
Can’t believe more people aren’t pointing this out. Like it follows the exact same sequence of events for every day
There was a Gmod game like this to, I think it was Traitors in Terrorist town.
Also among us obviously.
And this one game called Agrou, which is an exact 1:1 of the game described in the short
@@bluelemonade415 You have to think about what came first, the concept has been put into game form over and over again. Town of Salem came decades later. Doesn't make it bad, just not original. But things don't have to be fully original to be good.
For the werewolves the game is about a strategy of not messing up and playing the villagers against each other.
For the villagers it is a game of observation, luck but also ironically trust. Who do they trust and why.
As part of the Werewolf team, we've once won the game by sacrificing a Werewolf. Like, one made an argument for why he "believed" the other one was a werewolf. The other defended himself by claiming that the other is the Werewolf and he's only making that accusation to protect himself.
The irony was, both spoke the truth, both of us were Werewolves and the entire purpose of this play was to have the rest of the villagers completely trust the surviving one to not be a Werewolf.
It worked. But for it to work you cannot break the act.
Ripoff Among us
Last time I played it (27 years ago...), one girl was very vocal about who's the werewolf (robber in our version). But during third ( or so) game she was very quiet. I knew she was a robber, managed to convince others and won 😊
It's really cool game!
What he said in the video really doesn't make any sense about the game. The villagers, assuming the werewolves don't suck at lying, will always be at the way more likely to loose since the odds are stacked against them. The chance of picking a werewolf at its highest is 40% right at the end of the game and that requiers that all villagers vote for the werewolf since the other werewolf could tie the vote and win the game if even one of the remaining 3 villagers vote for someone else. In among us you can get information from cameras and the location of other players, in werewolf you are just shooting blind and trying to beat the odds.
we play with many mods. one of them is a “shapeshiter” who wakes up and functions as a werewolf, but is actually on the villagers side. they have to throw werewolves under the bus while deflecting both werewolves and villagers suspicions.
Yo, we used to play that when I was a kid. But it was pretty much there was one killer and one detective. The detective got to ask questions of whoever he wants to ask questions of. And then he was able to remember people from the group. If you didn't get the killer, the game continued
Yah that's mafia
Among us tho. I swear you can catch someone red handed. Get voted off. Not be the imposter. And next round they still question who the imposter was. 😅
This ladies and gentlemen, is an excellent example of why knowledge is powerful.
knowledge is but a starting point to understanding , executing is to follow.
@@ericscaillet2232 Sir, I wholeheartedly agree.
Spot on. Educate one self, it might safe you one day.
Power is power
Bro calls Amongus powerfull 🗿
Graham lineham is one of the best comedy writers of all time.
It's so true, that unless you can see through manipulation in how people are acting, you have nothing to go on.
Yeah, with only these rules as he described, it's kind of a silly game. There's literally nothing to it but guesswork. The villagers don't know anything at all. It doesn't matter what they say and how long they discuss. Every day it comes down to a random choice. Kinda bad game tbh.
@@ZZubZZero well, actually newer versions of the game have "doctors" or "witches" or "seers" that can protect or reveal one person. Revealing isnt as good as it sounds because the werewolves could always target the seer or claim the seer is lying. (This works best if the roles arent revealed upon death)
@@ZZubZZerowhich is EXACTLY equivalent to laymen trying to weigh in on important decisions related to specialized information in the real world... underlines why we don't need Joe Shmoes opinion on vaccines, or global warming AND EVEN suggests democracy is stupid (which is really is)
Exactly. If you had a werewolf in your village back then thats exactly how it would go down. Someone died in the night and in the morning everyone is pointing fingers...
In Greece, we call this game "Night in Palermo". The two werewolves are the murderers, one of them is the known killer and the other is the secret killer. But there's more: Other than the villagers, one player is a cop (who knows the known killer, but needs to tread carefully because he can be killed by the secret killer if he makes his role obvious) and another player is the prostitute (who knows the secret killer and works with them, but the secret killer can sacrifice the prostitute to keep his identity secret). Also, roles are assigned using a deck of cards, so if you shuffle well it's basically random each time.
Almost sounds like Town Of Salem
I'm sorry prostitute? Is it a child's game?
@@SomeRandoooo Town Of Salem is inspired by these games.
@@ManUtdBoy13 ya, but this is the closest version I've seen to Town of Salem.
This one sounds way more fun
Sounds like AMONG US 😂
We always call it mafia in school and you can get pretty creative with storytelling and also add new roles like Cupid, Doctor etc.
И комиссар, который по ночам "вскрывает" жителей, кто "красный", а кто "черный"
Rothschilds...
My family changed it to kidney switcher, or surgeon instead of cupid because we’re all related
Yes