intel: new socket motherboard for a new cpu on old architecture amd: new cpu new architecture for old socket motherboard edit: oh intel also be like 14nm++++++++++++++++++ to the power of 999999
@@themalcore_ if amd didn't die in the time it was dominated by Intel, imagine what's going to happen when even the Intel fanboys realize they need a ryzen course for better gaming performance.
Pro tip to differentiate those three for westerners. Korean: lots of circles and shapes that the pokemon "Unown" resembles. Chinese: densely packed calligraphy (most of time) Japanese: looks like scratch marks, light calligraphy or sometimes the Dragon Tongue "Thu'um" in The Elder Scrolls Skyrim
I feel like almost all asians know the difference between korean japanese and chinese either because of knowing one or more of the 3 languages or just cuz thay have friends that use the languages
I built my pc a couple months ago specifically future proofing it for the 5600, and here I am so happy Bc all I gotta do is put that bad boy in my pc next year. I’m so freaking hyped
My heartbeat paused awhile upon hearing "AMD Vulnerabilities", but immediately resumed -- with a sigh of relief -- upon learning that the vulns are basically software vulns, easy to mitigate, unlike the Intel hardware vulns.
Intel 4 cores where better than zen+ 6 cores, Zen 2 finally caught up and made it pretty even although still at an IPC and clockspeed disadvantage, zen3 has closed that gap for now, have to wait for q1/2 2021 too see how Rocket lake fairs up, it's looking good for intel for now, but it depends if there's a 5600 + 5700x and if they are priced well
@@Daeyae Zen 2 had much higher IPC than Intel's coffee and comet lake CPUs, but was slower in games due to higher latency through the I/O die and infinity fabric compared to Intel's ringbus. You could see this from how much faster Ryzen 3000 CPUs were than Intel's in things like encoding and encryption, which aren't latency sensitive. Ryzen 3000 just makes AMD's IPC lead even larger.
@@Daeyae Nope zen 2 had a noticeable IPC lead over coffee lake and even the latest 10th series, but the clock deficit and latency still gave intel the advantage in gaming which they should be loosing now. This is a proven fact and there are many videos on this, that's also why the 3600 actually beats the 10600 in production workloads that are less latency sensitive even at a clock disadvantage, because zen just has a superior back end. The biggest limiting factor is the IO die for gaming.
@@dawienel1142 doesnt the 10600k have an advantage on some rendering based tasks thanks to its iGPU though? Would be interesting too see if rocket lake with the new Xe graphics is an improvement on that too, as its expected 15-25% ipc gains from the new process, if they can just keep a similar speed. A lot of the games I play are single core intensive so I am looking forward to intels offerings but both are end of life chipsets, lga1200 and am4 so It depends on lga1700 and am5 support also
Coffin Lake Intel Inside (Yes I know this joke was made a good amount of time ago when the cpu was announced on another video. I thought it'd just fit here. All credits to the person who thought of it back then.)
Why is the headline surprising? 1. Traditionally, intel's 4-core (4790k, 6700k, etc) outperformed the higher core count models in gaming. 2. AMD just released their new CPUs. Intel is doing a node refresh and new architectute in Q1 or Q2 2021. Comparing an older cpu with a brand new one, not too shocking.
@@zeon2284 cool, I thought 10nm was set for next year, but if it's not, that proves my point further. 11h gen will be virtually the same cpu as 8th gen with higher clocks. So, again, why is it surprising that AMD's new cpu on a brand new architecture on a superior manufacturing node is beating intel's old ass cpu? We already know AMD caught up with Intel w.r.t single core. My gripe was that gamermeld is either not being very honest with all the hype headlines, or he is just not knowledgeable
@@zeon2284 Lol not really fair comparing a locked cpu to an unlocked one is it? Compare it with the 10600k or 10700k and you'll see who outperforms who in gaming
@@zeon2284 It won´t. Rocket Lake will be released right in the beginning of 2021. They´re uning a totally new architecture. Tiger Lake (which beats AMD in IPC) uses willow cove cores. willow cove is Intels newest core architecture. Rocket Lake will use cypress cove which is willow cove on 14nm. Rumors say that those cypress cove cores in Rocket Lake will beat Comet Lake by 15-25% in IPC. combined with even higher boost clocks Intel might beat AMD on their 14nm. Alder Lake will be announced summer 2021 and uses Intels 10nm process.
so my interpretation of the vulnerabilities: 1&3: a DirectX program may attempt to write to a illegal area of RAM (doesn't clearly specify if it is normal or graphics RAM though the latter is more likely) and while the error is still always caught it is handled by the OS not the driver resulting in a BSOD. this is not so much a vulnerability as just an annoying bug though there is a potential to create a denial of service (cant use computer) if a program tries writing to this area of memory on startup. Seems to be in AMD GPU drivers and issue 3 has been patched in recent drivers. 2: seems to be saying that a program running on the computer while a person is logged in as admin, may claim admin privileges if the user starts Ryzen Master or if Ryzen Master is running in the background (isn't clear). Issue has been patched in recent version of Ryzen Master. note: The user can still override the system security in many cases (admin login, installation confirmation, plugging in random usbs, etc) so users should be wary as to what they download/install as well as not just pick up random usbs and plug them in to their computer (some even just replicate keyboard/mouse input to take over your computer).
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AMD is slowly creating a monopoly over all computer manufacturers lol. Waiting for an AMD OS
I'd actually use the OS if all the games are playable on it
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@@Hysterical yeah honestly though I wonder why more brands don't make their OS. there are really only 2 major ones, windows and mac, and when building a PC its pretty much always windows
Intel needs to either lower prices or increase their build quality and include a cooler with their mid-end cpu’s if they still want to win this battle.
Why would they need a cpu cooler ? Amd cooler is dog shit even on 6 core cpu without oc it even. That's why there are not gonna use it any more. If your buying an expensive cpu buy a good cpu cooler that can handle it.
@@Filip1389_ not at all, their stock cooler is more than enough for daily usage such as gaming or editing it maintains great temps from what I’ve experienced around 62-68 or 70c under full load, having a cooler included with the cpu is always a plus, also if you buy a cpu for the sole purpose of overclocking then you’ll most likely buy an after market cpu cooler.
It's somewhat nice not being able to afford any of these right now as performance lifts seem to be happening more frequently and for a better price point. Makes me rest easier knowing when I do have the chance to upgrade it's going to be a massive jump :)
ngl, i was disappointed to know rocket lake is still stuck at 14 nm, but i hope intel can pull off something better at least in gaming. We need competition on the market to have good stuff as consumers
The biggest thing I think people have overlooked with the 5000 series chips is that by keeping within the same tdp they have potentially got more headroom to counter anything Intel can do by releasing xt chips with a little more tdp. We'll see a 5900XT /5950XT possibly in 6 months and then 6 months after that we'll start seeing more details on 6000 series
I really wanna see if ram tuning will benifit zen 3 like it did for zen2. If it does then thats gonna be another ~10% or so faster on top of the gains it already has.
Im really sad about the price increase because the low prices are what really has kept amd winning in pc processor and motherboard sales. Also the new motherbords are way expensive. i do like what they have to offer and i will upgrade to zen 3 from my first gen zen, but i would have hoped for the prices to stay lower than intel
Trouble is, this 5600 part is going to be released at the same time as Rocket Lake, which is going to have significantly higher performance than the 10700. So just matching a 10700 is actually bad news for AMD on the gaming front.
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I'm not waiting for either. I only upgraded my PC last year and my needs are not that severe. My next upgrade (unless something breaks) will probably be in the 5nm Ryzen range.
I've been getting the bug to upgrade my FX-8350 system, but at the same time, the next AMD socket, and 5nm is right around the corner, so I want to at least hold off until that hits, becomes stable, and the GPU market stabilizes a bit.
good thing i bought b450 mobo also XDDD i was shaking when i bought this mobo i was like damn what if ryzen 5 series will support this or naw and now i am happy as hell
Excellent news! I have that same motherboard, currently running a 2700x and a Vega64. I am THRILLED to hear that they will support the 5000 series chips! Now I just need to wait on a waterblock to be made for a 6900 graphics card, but, hopefully, by this time next year, my machine will have a new CPU and GPU! While I am pretty happy with my current performance gaming at 3440x1440, the addition of a new Sony X90CH TV capable of HDMI 2.1, 120fps 4k, and VRR, I am starting to feel the itch for more performance.
soooo sooo funny when a new AMD cpu is about to be released... that they "Discover" so bs non real life applicable "vulnerabilities" when is just software bugs. ...we know who tries to promote those (i look at you Intel) hahaha they should try to spend that money on fixing their serious security issues and not crippling their 9-10 generations with patches..🤣 not digging into bsod bugs for AMD Radeon Drivers.
but you are aware that those who discovered it where people working with amd? just how people working with intel usually find out intel's vulnerabilities. Both companys have an interest in finding out their own problems, but apparently someone here didn't watch the video at all.
It is so strange to me that people are doing more for B450 boards than the X470 boards. I mean, I specifically got the x470 board for upgrades when the new ryzen chips came out (and I can afford one)
Really want to build my first pc. Oh, I will buy the case first. Then fill it with cardboard-box-shape pc parts and dreaming of the day I can build it in the future...
5:45 no excuse on Intel mistake to not upgrade to 7nm process but if anyone thinks this is a big win to AMD I see it normal. Remember Intel just uses 14nm and they can make AMD 7nm in trouble for years. Let see when the node size comes to the end and see which company optimizes things better
Btw, the 5600X -- if the rumor is true -- beats the 10700K not only in single-threaded ("1T") and Gaming, but also in multi-threaded ("nT" = n threads = multi-threaded). If so, that's the final nail in Intel's coffin.
Look c'mon, this isn't surprising, they're claiming they have better single core performance so any chip on any chip will be higher unless it's severely under clocked. Why do you bother with this?
A 6 core beating an 8 core in many games shouldn't be a shocked as most games don't use 8 cores, this is why Intel 4 cores were beating AMD 8 cores in gaming when ryzen 1000 came out.
So.... like last year, i bet AMD was going to make a threadripper based project quatum, where instead of 8x8 core CCDs and a massive IO die for 4x DDR4 channels, and 72x PCIe, it instead had 2x8 core CCDs, 2X8GB HBM2e, an IO die for 1-2 channels of DDR4 and only 12x PCIe for NVMe drives and maybe a network card, and a next generation 5700xt as that die can fit in the space of 2 of the CCDs and the space freed up by the smaller IO die with a dedicated HBM2e chip for the custom 5700xt, or for a shared pool of 24GB, with 1-2 channels of second tier DDR4
To be fair the 10th gen i5 with 6 cores is almost identical to the i7 in gaming as well. Not to mention they're talking about the non-k version, which isn't unlocked while the ryzen cpu is. The i5 10600k is just as good as the i7 while only being $250 instead of the $300 for the ryzen.
@@carlitos7742 a mid range motherboard for around 170 like the tomahawk is more then enough. You shouldnt be buying a cheaper motherboard then that if you're spending this much on a cpu
keep in mine we dont need anything more then 6 cores for gaming atm as most games dont use anything more then that it beat it because its faster nothing to do with core count. its like saying the i5 10400 beats the 3950x at gaming and thats a 16 core part.
I would be impressed, but they are going to cost exactly the same in Germany and amds option will give me less cores / threads so it will be worse for futurproofing. Never thought id say this but intel is probably the better buy here depending on what Mainboard you can get :(
hmm see your point, but knowing intel, you need a a new motherboard for every new cpu, soo i think amd still has the advantage on futerproofing,just because you can upgrade to next gen cpu only. and we will see how much pci4 has to say on performance as well.. thats the one thing i am abit concerned on , sins im on a asus x470 hero, and there is no support on that for pci gen 4..
I'm still using my asus p8p67le and my i7 2600k. When I upgrade to a ryzen zen 3 chip/x570 board/ram it's gonna be like going from a 94 Corolla to a mk4 supra, lol.
I am currently running an e3-1231v3 and a 1070. I am planning on getting the new ryzen 5600. Will my gpu be able to handle most games at 2k or should I consider upgrading it too?
Rocket Lake, 18% IPC over Skylake that is 4 generations old, or 6 yrs by the the launch date. Thus even if we assume 3% IPC increase per generation, and about 200mhz lower clocks, there is 1.4% speed improvement over 10900K coming with Rocket Lake. Unless the software can utilize 10 cores, in that case 10900K wins easily. Intel can't fight back before they get their 7nm working and fully new architectures build for 7nm in mind are coming out. But I really hope they can at that point.
Yep, unless they step up their fab n architecture, they might be behind AMD. At the same time, it's kinda impressive that they managed to milk 14nm to this point.
@@wisdoom9153 They have milked insane power consumption and lots of security problems. Low memory latency due to monolithic die has kept them in great in the gaming. And owning your fabs, you can build shitton of CPUs and bin them and pretend you can create those binned CPUs much more than you can. At the same time they have cornered themselves, they can't move forward without breaking monolithic dies. This brings huge amount of latency and probably a bad learning curve. But I hope they have worked constantly to solve this, or Intel will go bye bye eventually.
I'm probably gonna wait for that Asus bios update for my x470 board. And if indeed around that time the R5 5600 will release as well, that would be very convenient. Just hoping 3000mhz ram doesn't bottleneck the new CPUs too much
What information do we have than any non X variant will definitely be overclockable? Just because it's been policy up to Zen2, there have been exceptions namely Athlons. There's a multitude of ways to limit performance to promote premium SKU's, like limiting memory speeds to JDEC specs which would have an effect on performance. There's no point getting all excited over a 5600, when we don't have confirmation that AMD's overclocking policy hasn't changed or confirmation on price which is never finalised months before release and could end up at $249 if intel don't discount their processors in line with performance.
Dang ,i got so scared at the beginning of the "Asus not supporting zen3 on x470" rumour. I have a prime x470-pro, and I was planning to upgrade to a 5600(X) or even a 5700X so it was really relieving to hear that the reddit post has incorrect info :) Planning to upgrade to a 5600(X) or even a 5700X.
What happens if you buy the non X variant but then budget the money you saved on a more beefy cooling setup? Does it out perform the X variant but on its stock cooler?
I'm working on a new gaming build and right now I'm leaning towards the AMD 5000 cpus and the 6000 gpus. Was going to go with Nvidia till they were all bought up by scalpers and being sold for double or better the amount
A 5600 would be the obvious choice for me if I hadn't upgraded to 2700x and 3600 late last year. I doubt the performance improvement is worth it for me, despite it clearly looking good.
It really doesn't matter how good Ryzen 5000 is against the Intel 10000 series. Intel has a big jump coming out soon as well with pcie4 support (FINALLY) AND DDR5 support. When you're comparing new hardware it should be against other new hardware, not the last generation which were incremental upgrades
The diffrence ppl are not understanding is a bit of change in graphic and performance from what you have is it compulsary too keep updating with bit changes done in card spending heck lot
Not even close. There was nothing similar about intel's performance lead on sandy bridge. Sandy bridge had like 50% advantage out of the box and massive overclocking headroom
intel pinging board upgrades nearly annually, AMD letting you go from revision 2 boards and first gen ryzen to the 4 itteration(not gen) chips on the same board is a huge slap. just think of everyone who bought a r7 1700 on b450 that can slap a 5000 series cpu in their system now... me thinks there will be quite a few r5 2600s falling off the map soon.
a few extra cores and more MB of cache, thats all most of the new CPUs are about. a few extra fps in a game. upgrade a system and CPU when you can double or triple performance.
@@jamzqool for people with no money issues, not a problem, but for the manufacturers they are aiming for the VIP market in troubled times, thats a deadly mistake as a lot of deceased companies could attest to if they still existed.
@@joefish6091 well, i've been in youtube a lot especially monitoring what people comment on rtx 3000 and zen 3 and you know what, there's still a lot of crazy people who would buy the highest tier tech they could get ahold of. yeah economy is not on the best era right now and i especially said if and only if you got the budget, upgrading your processor with a big performance improvement is a great deal. yearly iteration is what makes technology advance, don't judge it by belittling it because not much improvement in it, and considering intel is not even doing much upgrading their technology, improvement in amd is more about what the future would look like if you keep improving and upgrading, not stuck like intel.... appreciate it dude...
if it doesnt who would buy it? 10700 is 290 dollars rn and probably 320 with a nice cooler and you don need an overclocking motherboard so its more like the same price but two more cores with intel.
Uhm, I think you have that backwards. 3600x is available and cheaper by over £100 compared to 10700 in UK for example (and 10700 is not even in stock in USA or UK) But if you meant 5600x, you're wrong again because it was stated to cost $299, whereas the 10700 costs over $300 (plus, its not even in stock).
Honestly, I'm waiting for amd 's next socket somewhat expecting the next interation of RAM and maybe (probably not) the next pcie standard so I don't have to buy quite as much for a brand new system to last a few years.
tbh im an intel fan boy. but im in an environment where people are tech savies and and gamers and they are very excited to move to amd when the 5000 series come out and I feel like I would look stupid for sticking with intel and people will look down on me if I dont switch to amd once zen 3 launches
Just hoping that there's enough 5000 series Cpus on launch day
Yes
Yes!
Facts
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There won’t be
Actually, that's a South Korean one, not Chinese.
I was going to point out the same thing.
Bruh AMD is getting hungry at Gaming over Intel
Completely CORRECT, 😁✌ hehehe,
(I'm not even Korean but the writing is *quite* different from Chinese caracters and Japanese ones)
And even the writer themselves is a Korean, at least their name is.
He probably should’ve checked
intel: new socket motherboard for a new cpu on old architecture amd: new cpu new architecture for old socket motherboard edit: oh intel also be like 14nm++++++++++++++++++ to the power of 999999
mlg, the truth
I'm taking a shit
@@atlasgfs don't force it, slow and steady
SHHHHHH!! 🤫 That’s Intel’s top secret business strategy!!
@@program22 too late
Slowly but surely, Intel's lakes will begin to dry up.
@Fly 2650 I mean, Intel was dominating AMD for decades and they're not dead... Let's tone down the dramatics.
@@themalcore_ if amd didn't die in the time it was dominated by Intel, imagine what's going to happen when even the Intel fanboys realize they need a ryzen course for better gaming performance.
To be honest Intel still has a huge market share and has the money for ages, they will always still be there even if their products are inferior....
They can just refresh it if their lakes dry up
Fly 2650 nah, AMD compatible motherboards suck
Isn't that a Korean publication not Chinese?
Yep it is korean
Korean lmao
Yeah was going to say lmao
Definitely Korean
@@MuhammadHosny0 or the non ignorant people who can actually distinguish different linguistic characters 🤔! You must be American
That's korean, not chinese... at least the text is written in korean
All the same
@@cringecake321 is not lmao
@@user-mx5cr8zw3f 검̳둥̳이̳
Me, an Asian whose language uses roman alphabet: thats korean, not chinese, not japanese
Pro tip to differentiate those three for westerners.
Korean: lots of circles and shapes that the pokemon "Unown" resembles.
Chinese: densely packed calligraphy (most of time)
Japanese: looks like scratch marks, light calligraphy or sometimes the Dragon Tongue "Thu'um" in The Elder Scrolls Skyrim
oh fck me I didn't knew that how intellectual you are!
I feel like almost all asians know the difference between korean japanese and chinese either because of knowing one or more of the 3 languages or just cuz thay have friends that use the languages
@@jazmihamizan4987 "looks like scratch marks, light calligraphy or sometimes the Dragon Tongue "Thu'um" in The Elder Scrolls Skyrim"
bruh
(A few years ago)
Consumer: Oh, nice CPU! how much?
Intel: It's gonna cost you.
AMD: Oh yeah, (to intel) it's gonna cost you...
This is actually a great comment haha
Just hoping AMD successfully pulls off this launch unlike nvidia, let's be honest it was a flop
Tflop
NVidia launched? Thought it was just a paper launch. /s
Nvidias launch was a complete and utter failure, no other way to put it...
@@wimvanerge5210 Nvflop
The 3080 launch turned out to be a total teraflop.
I built my pc a couple months ago specifically future proofing it for the 5600, and here I am so happy Bc all I gotta do is put that bad boy in my pc next year. I’m so freaking hyped
"From a chinese publication"
* shows korean text
Maybe it's a korean poster reporting about what a chinese publication said?
My heartbeat paused awhile upon hearing "AMD Vulnerabilities", but immediately resumed -- with a sigh of relief -- upon learning that the vulns are basically software vulns, easy to mitigate, unlike the Intel hardware vulns.
4:23 That's korean, not chinese.
GM: Intel has to be scrambling at this point, AMD has taken the one thing they had left
Me: Oh no! Anyway...
The lack of consumer apathy is pure karma :D
Intel now targets pre built systems, where they still hold the vast majority of sales over AMD.
remember when intel 4 cores was better than amd fx 8 cores? now the tables are turning.
Intel 4 cores where better than zen+ 6 cores, Zen 2 finally caught up and made it pretty even although still at an IPC and clockspeed disadvantage, zen3 has closed that gap for now, have to wait for q1/2 2021 too see how Rocket lake fairs up, it's looking good for intel for now, but it depends if there's a 5600 + 5700x and if they are priced well
@@Daeyae Zen 2 had much higher IPC than Intel's coffee and comet lake CPUs, but was slower in games due to higher latency through the I/O die and infinity fabric compared to Intel's ringbus. You could see this from how much faster Ryzen 3000 CPUs were than Intel's in things like encoding and encryption, which aren't latency sensitive. Ryzen 3000 just makes AMD's IPC lead even larger.
@@nathangamble125 from what i heard they where equivalent, dont own either of them so never really looked into it though.
@@Daeyae Nope zen 2 had a noticeable IPC lead over coffee lake and even the latest 10th series, but the clock deficit and latency still gave intel the advantage in gaming which they should be loosing now.
This is a proven fact and there are many videos on this, that's also why the 3600 actually beats the 10600 in production workloads that are less latency sensitive even at a clock disadvantage, because zen just has a superior back end.
The biggest limiting factor is the IO die for gaming.
@@dawienel1142 doesnt the 10600k have an advantage on some rendering based tasks thanks to its iGPU though? Would be interesting too see if rocket lake with the new Xe graphics is an improvement on that too, as its expected 15-25% ipc gains from the new process, if they can just keep a similar speed. A lot of the games I play are single core intensive so I am looking forward to intels offerings but both are end of life chipsets, lga1200 and am4 so It depends on lga1700 and am5 support also
I'm calling the cops man. this is just murder.
haha
Let's just hope, us Team Red don't become what we've hated all these years.
@@X3MAntics They will become that unless Intel catches up.
Capitalizators wont just miss the chance to charge for a premium because they are top
Are you guys stupid. Thats a overclocked cpu being compared to a stock cpu. Hes full of bull s
Coffin Lake
Intel Inside
(Yes I know this joke was made a good amount of time ago when the cpu was announced on another video. I thought it'd just fit here. All credits to the person who thought of it back then.)
4:19 If he found the story in a Chinese publication, why is the publication written in Korean?
it s not korean, it s alien comms
"any ass B550" 🤣 2:25
Hahahahaha damn
Haha
Why is the headline surprising? 1. Traditionally, intel's 4-core (4790k, 6700k, etc) outperformed the higher core count models in gaming.
2. AMD just released their new CPUs. Intel is doing a node refresh and new architectute in Q1 or Q2 2021. Comparing an older cpu with a brand new one, not too shocking.
Are you dumb? Wdym old cpu? Intels 10th gen is they're newest one. And btw dont be hipped, intel 11th gen will be the same cpu on another socket xd
@@zeon2284 cool, I thought 10nm was set for next year, but if it's not, that proves my point further. 11h gen will be virtually the same cpu as 8th gen with higher clocks. So, again, why is it surprising that AMD's new cpu on a brand new architecture on a superior manufacturing node is beating intel's old ass cpu?
We already know AMD caught up with Intel w.r.t single core. My gripe was that gamermeld is either not being very honest with all the hype headlines, or he is just not knowledgeable
@@zeon2284 Lol not really fair comparing a locked cpu to an unlocked one is it? Compare it with the 10600k or 10700k and you'll see who outperforms who in gaming
@@zeon2284 It won´t.
Rocket Lake will be released right in the beginning of 2021.
They´re uning a totally new architecture.
Tiger Lake (which beats AMD in IPC) uses willow cove cores. willow cove is Intels newest core architecture. Rocket Lake will use cypress cove which is willow cove on 14nm.
Rumors say that those cypress cove cores in Rocket Lake will beat Comet Lake by 15-25% in IPC. combined with even higher boost clocks Intel might beat AMD on their 14nm.
Alder Lake will be announced summer 2021 and uses Intels 10nm process.
so my interpretation of the vulnerabilities:
1&3: a DirectX program may attempt to write to a illegal area of RAM (doesn't clearly specify if it is normal or graphics RAM though the latter is more likely) and while the error is still always caught it is handled by the OS not the driver resulting in a BSOD. this is not so much a vulnerability as just an annoying bug though there is a potential to create a denial of service (cant use computer) if a program tries writing to this area of memory on startup. Seems to be in AMD GPU drivers and issue 3 has been patched in recent drivers.
2: seems to be saying that a program running on the computer while a person is logged in as admin, may claim admin privileges if the user starts Ryzen Master or if Ryzen Master is running in the background (isn't clear). Issue has been patched in recent version of Ryzen Master.
note: The user can still override the system security in many cases (admin login, installation confirmation, plugging in random usbs, etc) so users should be wary as to what they download/install as well as not just pick up random usbs and plug them in to their computer (some even just replicate keyboard/mouse input to take over your computer).
AMD is slowly creating a monopoly over all computer manufacturers lol. Waiting for an AMD OS
It will take a lot more to remove intel from total market share though.
I'd actually use the OS if all the games are playable on it
@@Hysterical yeah honestly though I wonder why more brands don't make their OS. there are really only 2 major ones, windows and mac, and when building a PC its pretty much always windows
@ biggest factor would be that most people wouldn't switch. They already have all their stuff on windows.
Hand over that AMD Bike
Think ill match a 5600 non-x to my 5700xt. My 1600 is showing her age
Her?
@@ThunderBlastvideo Yes, respect your cpu waif. Treat her to some RAM dinner and an early retirement.
@@gcjas1998 way better of a response se than I had in mind. You win.
Wait for a 5700x... sounds better to pair with a 5700xt!
@@MattJDylan or for them to make ryzen XT models for the 5700xt and 5700xt
Intel needs to either lower prices or increase their build quality and include a cooler with their mid-end cpu’s if they still want to win this battle.
Why would they need a cpu cooler ? Amd cooler is dog shit even on 6 core cpu without oc it even. That's why there are not gonna use it any more. If your buying an expensive cpu buy a good cpu cooler that can handle it.
@@Filip1389_ not at all, their stock cooler is more than enough for daily usage such as gaming or editing it maintains great temps from what I’ve experienced around 62-68 or 70c under full load, having a cooler included with the cpu is always a plus, also if you buy a cpu for the sole purpose of overclocking then you’ll most likely buy an after market cpu cooler.
@@Filip1389_ amd cpu cooler is really good don't make up shit lies
@@swifftyz611 literally no one uses stock coolers
@@hrwells9698 a lot of people do actually myself included and I’ve never had an issue with it.
How much performance do you need?
AMD: Yes
It's somewhat nice not being able to afford any of these right now as performance lifts seem to be happening more frequently and for a better price point. Makes me rest easier knowing when I do have the chance to upgrade it's going to be a massive jump :)
The thing I am waiting for is to see what deals are on Black Friday and Boxing Day this year. That's when I buy all my computer parts.
racist...
@@nicksparrow009 Not at all what "Black Friday" means.
@@a.f.r.m...d.e.d.d.2898 thats the joke
@@a.f.r.m...d.e.d.d.2898 He was joking I think
@@a.f.r.m...d.e.d.d.2898 I was just joking haha. Some people get pissed of by it and honestly we shouldn't live in the past
“A Chinese publication”
shows text in korean
- AMD, please, leave Intel alone; he is already dead.
necrophilia is fun
ngl, i was disappointed to know rocket lake is still stuck at 14 nm, but i hope intel can pull off something better at least in gaming. We need competition on the market to have good stuff as consumers
Yeah those 50$ add up in the amd CPUs is Intel's fault
The biggest thing I think people have overlooked with the 5000 series chips is that by keeping within the same tdp they have potentially got more headroom to counter anything Intel can do by releasing xt chips with a little more tdp. We'll see a 5900XT /5950XT possibly in 6 months and then 6 months after that we'll start seeing more details on 6000 series
Hold your horses fellas!
Wait for independent trustworthy reviews
I really wanna see if ram tuning will benifit zen 3 like it did for zen2. If it does then thats gonna be another ~10% or so faster on top of the gains it already has.
well.... after 20 years of intel products, its time to move on i guess...
Im really sad about the price increase because the low prices are what really has kept amd winning in pc processor and motherboard sales. Also the new motherbords are way expensive. i do like what they have to offer and i will upgrade to zen 3 from my first gen zen, but i would have hoped for the prices to stay lower than intel
Trouble is, this 5600 part is going to be released at the same time as Rocket Lake, which is going to have significantly higher performance than the 10700. So just matching a 10700 is actually bad news for AMD on the gaming front.
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I'm not waiting for either. I only upgraded my PC last year and my needs are not that severe. My next upgrade (unless something breaks) will probably be in the 5nm Ryzen range.
I've been getting the bug to upgrade my FX-8350 system, but at the same time, the next AMD socket, and 5nm is right around the corner, so I want to at least hold off until that hits, becomes stable, and the GPU market stabilizes a bit.
AMD supports b450 ,, that smile I never had in my life,
good thing i bought b450 mobo also XDDD i was shaking when i bought this mobo i was like damn what if ryzen 5 series will support this or naw and now i am happy as hell
Does it beat the K model though?
Excellent news! I have that same motherboard, currently running a 2700x and a Vega64. I am THRILLED to hear that they will support the 5000 series chips! Now I just need to wait on a waterblock to be made for a 6900 graphics card, but, hopefully, by this time next year, my machine will have a new CPU and GPU! While I am pretty happy with my current performance gaming at 3440x1440, the addition of a new Sony X90CH TV capable of HDMI 2.1, 120fps 4k, and VRR, I am starting to feel the itch for more performance.
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so nobody's gonna talk about how the guys literally misspelled "asus" as "ass" so he said "ass b550" lmfaoo
soooo sooo funny when a new AMD cpu is about to be released... that they "Discover" so bs non real life applicable "vulnerabilities" when is just software bugs. ...we know who tries to promote those (i look at you Intel) hahaha they should try to spend that money on fixing their serious security issues and not crippling their 9-10 generations with patches..🤣 not digging into bsod bugs for AMD Radeon Drivers.
but you are aware that those who discovered it where people working with amd? just how people working with intel usually find out intel's vulnerabilities. Both companys have an interest in finding out their own problems, but apparently someone here didn't watch the video at all.
It's not unbelievable anymore. It's inevitable.
It is so strange to me that people are doing more for B450 boards than the X470 boards. I mean, I specifically got the x470 board for upgrades when the new ryzen chips came out (and I can afford one)
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Really want to build my first pc.
Oh, I will buy the case first. Then fill it with cardboard-box-shape pc parts and dreaming of the day I can build it in the future...
4:19 bruh thats korean not chinese.... they look completely different
Intel: finally AMD killed us and wont disturb again.
Amd: Stabbing a dead body is fun. Tho.
5:45 no excuse on Intel mistake to not upgrade to 7nm process but if anyone thinks this is a big win to AMD I see it normal. Remember Intel just uses 14nm and they can make AMD 7nm in trouble for years. Let see when the node size comes to the end and see which company optimizes things better
Btw, the 5600X -- if the rumor is true -- beats the 10700K not only in single-threaded ("1T") and Gaming, but also in multi-threaded ("nT" = n threads = multi-threaded).
If so, that's the final nail in Intel's coffin.
Intel deserves this.
at 4:18 that's not Chinese that's Korean lol, big Oof.
Look c'mon, this isn't surprising, they're claiming they have better single core performance so any chip on any chip will be higher unless it's severely under clocked. Why do you bother with this?
*Looks like 5600 might be a solid upgrade from 3600!*
That not even worth it. 3600 still a new cpu basically
@@austinknetzke5736 what aboit 2600x to 5600x ryzen will it be good for games like cyperpunk/league on 1440p?
The human eye can't even see 8 cores.
It can however see the hexa core i7 8700. Yeah, we got one!
Once Zen4 arrives in 4 years, Intel is completely over.
yea but maybe a chance u have to get a new socket motherboard now
AM5?
It comes in first quarter 2022
@@timothywegner6597 zen4 ?
@@timothywegner6597 yeah that makes more sense
@@someguywithmtndew5691 Probably still compatible for b550 and x570, but I don't think it's gonna go lower than 470 boards in general
A 6 core beating an 8 core in many games shouldn't be a shocked as most games don't use 8 cores, this is why Intel 4 cores were beating AMD 8 cores in gaming when ryzen 1000 came out.
So.... like last year, i bet AMD was going to make a threadripper based project quatum, where instead of 8x8 core CCDs and a massive IO die for 4x DDR4 channels, and 72x PCIe, it instead had 2x8 core CCDs, 2X8GB HBM2e, an IO die for 1-2 channels of DDR4 and only 12x PCIe for NVMe drives and maybe a network card, and a next generation 5700xt as that die can fit in the space of 2 of the CCDs and the space freed up by the smaller IO die with a dedicated HBM2e chip for the custom 5700xt, or for a shared pool of 24GB, with 1-2 channels of second tier DDR4
"Chinese publication?" That's Korean XD
Even when the number of cores would be important for gaming. . .
are the ryzen 4 going to be needing a new motherboard? and will they support ddr5?
I wish AMD launched their own version of a pc-console hybrid thingy if they can make it do what a pc can but has special optimization for games.
To be fair the 10th gen i5 with 6 cores is almost identical to the i7 in gaming as well. Not to mention they're talking about the non-k version, which isn't unlocked while the ryzen cpu is. The i5 10600k is just as good as the i7 while only being $250 instead of the $300 for the ryzen.
you need a really good motherboard to take full advantage of the i5
@@carlitos7742 a mid range motherboard for around 170 like the tomahawk is more then enough. You shouldnt be buying a cheaper motherboard then that if you're spending this much on a cpu
keep in mine we dont need anything more then 6 cores for gaming atm as most games dont use anything more then that it beat it because its faster nothing to do with core count. its like saying the i5 10400 beats the 3950x at gaming and thats a 16 core part.
correct, upgrade when you can double performance, thats when it becomes noticeable and fun.
I would be impressed, but they are going to cost exactly the same in Germany and amds option will give me less cores / threads so it will be worse for futurproofing. Never thought id say this but intel is probably the better buy here depending on what Mainboard you can get :(
hmm see your point, but knowing intel, you need a a new motherboard for every new cpu, soo i think amd still has the advantage on futerproofing,just because you can upgrade to next gen cpu only. and we will see how much pci4 has to say on performance as well.. thats the one thing i am abit concerned on , sins im on a asus x470 hero, and there is no support on that for pci gen 4..
Pro-tip: NEVER mistaken anything Asian as Chinese, ESPECIALLY if they're a HongKonger or Taiwanese, it is incredibly offensive.
Rocket Lake Explode during Launch and Sink Deep in the Lake. 🚀
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"He found this info on a Chinese publication" - shows a screenshot of Korean alphabet
those AMD vulnerabilities must have been trivial if they made them public before patching
The more patience you have when it comes to gaming the more you win
I'm still using my asus p8p67le and my i7 2600k.
When I upgrade to a ryzen zen 3 chip/x570 board/ram it's gonna be like going from a 94 Corolla to a mk4 supra, lol.
I am currently running an e3-1231v3 and a 1070. I am planning on getting the new ryzen 5600. Will my gpu be able to handle most games at 2k or should I consider upgrading it too?
Rocket Lake, 18% IPC over Skylake that is 4 generations old, or 6 yrs by the the launch date. Thus even if we assume 3% IPC increase per generation, and about 200mhz lower clocks, there is 1.4% speed improvement over 10900K coming with Rocket Lake. Unless the software can utilize 10 cores, in that case 10900K wins easily.
Intel can't fight back before they get their 7nm working and fully new architectures build for 7nm in mind are coming out. But I really hope they can at that point.
Yep, unless they step up their fab n architecture, they might be behind AMD.
At the same time, it's kinda impressive that they managed to milk 14nm to this point.
@@wisdoom9153 They have milked insane power consumption and lots of security problems. Low memory latency due to monolithic die has kept them in great in the gaming. And owning your fabs, you can build shitton of CPUs and bin them and pretend you can create those binned CPUs much more than you can.
At the same time they have cornered themselves, they can't move forward without breaking monolithic dies. This brings huge amount of latency and probably a bad learning curve. But I hope they have worked constantly to solve this, or Intel will go bye bye eventually.
In minute 3:00 you mention "Hardware vulnerabilities", but that is incorrect, they are software vulnerabilities.
I'm probably gonna wait for that Asus bios update for my x470 board. And if indeed around that time the R5 5600 will release as well, that would be very convenient.
Just hoping 3000mhz ram doesn't bottleneck the new CPUs too much
ima upgrade next launch
What information do we have than any non X variant will definitely be overclockable?
Just because it's been policy up to Zen2, there have been exceptions namely Athlons.
There's a multitude of ways to limit performance to promote premium SKU's, like limiting memory speeds to JDEC specs which would have an effect on performance.
There's no point getting all excited over a 5600, when we don't have confirmation that AMD's overclocking policy hasn't changed or confirmation on price which is never finalised months before release and could end up at $249 if intel don't discount their processors in line with performance.
Dang ,i got so scared at the beginning of the "Asus not supporting zen3 on x470" rumour. I have a prime x470-pro, and I was planning to upgrade to a 5600(X) or even a 5700X so it was really relieving to hear that the reddit post has incorrect info :) Planning to upgrade to a 5600(X) or even a 5700X.
I still remember seeing a bunch of AMD quantum pcs in mankind divided
What happens if you buy the non X variant but then budget the money you saved on a more beefy cooling setup? Does it out perform the X variant but on its stock cooler?
I'm working on a new gaming build and right now I'm leaning towards the AMD 5000 cpus and the 6000 gpus. Was going to go with Nvidia till they were all bought up by scalpers and being sold for double or better the amount
When does the embargo drop. Thats what I want to know. Really need proper benchmarks
Just arrived on tech scene, and hoo boy, did I appear at the right time
I was hoping to get my build done with a r5 5600 before Christmas
Good vid , you missed Tn = multithreaded.
I'll wait for zen4 :)
My Ryzen 7 2700 is doing gods work for me and my channel!
Damn looks like the 299$ price tag is really worth it.
waiting for ryzen 6000 or 5nm cpu series with DDR5 Ram compatibility
A 5600 would be the obvious choice for me if I hadn't upgraded to 2700x and 3600 late last year. I doubt the performance improvement is worth it for me, despite it clearly looking good.
It really doesn't matter how good Ryzen 5000 is against the Intel 10000 series. Intel has a big jump coming out soon as well with pcie4 support (FINALLY) AND DDR5 support. When you're comparing new hardware it should be against other new hardware, not the last generation which were incremental upgrades
The diffrence ppl are not understanding is a bit of change in graphic and performance from what you have is it compulsary too keep updating with bit changes done in card spending heck lot
Ryzen 5000 series brings Intel back into the position AMD was in when Intel released Sandy Bridge. Oh how the turn tables
Not even close. There was nothing similar about intel's performance lead on sandy bridge. Sandy bridge had like 50% advantage out of the box and massive overclocking headroom
intel pinging board upgrades nearly annually, AMD letting you go from revision 2 boards and first gen ryzen to the 4 itteration(not gen) chips on the same board is a huge slap. just think of everyone who bought a r7 1700 on b450 that can slap a 5000 series cpu in their system now... me thinks there will be quite a few r5 2600s falling off the map soon.
a few extra cores and more MB of cache, thats all most of the new CPUs are about. a few extra fps in a game. upgrade a system and CPU when you can double or triple performance.
@@joefish6091 if you got the budget, why the hell no? especially going from zen to zen3 is still worthy in my opinion
@@jamzqool for people with no money issues, not a problem, but for the manufacturers they are aiming for the VIP market in troubled times, thats a deadly mistake as a lot of deceased companies could attest to if they still existed.
@@joefish6091 well, i've been in youtube a lot especially monitoring what people comment on rtx 3000 and zen 3 and you know what, there's still a lot of crazy people who would buy the highest tier tech they could get ahold of.
yeah economy is not on the best era right now and i especially said if and only if you got the budget, upgrading your processor with a big performance improvement is a great deal.
yearly iteration is what makes technology advance, don't judge it by belittling it because not much improvement in it, and considering intel is not even doing much upgrading their technology, improvement in amd is more about what the future would look like if you keep improving and upgrading, not stuck like intel.... appreciate it dude...
if it doesnt who would buy it? 10700 is 290 dollars rn and probably 320 with a nice cooler and you don need an overclocking motherboard so its more like the same price but two more cores with intel.
Well, 10700 is cheaper and available while 5 3600x is more expensive and who knows when will be available
Uhm, I think you have that backwards.
3600x is available and cheaper by over £100 compared to 10700 in UK for example (and 10700 is not even in stock in USA or UK)
But if you meant 5600x, you're wrong again because it was stated to cost $299, whereas the 10700 costs over $300 (plus, its not even in stock).
Intel 14nm and 16 threads vs Ryzen 7nm 12 threads technology, and both 65W TDP? Magic?!
Honestly, I'm waiting for amd 's next socket somewhat expecting the next interation of RAM and maybe (probably not) the next pcie standard so I don't have to buy quite as much for a brand new system to last a few years.
Their Rocket Lake is just a concealed name for Coffin Lake
Yeah -- While AMD keeps Ryzen to the top, Intel will keep sinking, to the Bottom-Of-The-Lake. ;)
4:18 "now he actually found this story from a chinese publication"
That's korean though
tbh im an intel fan boy. but im in an environment where people are tech savies and and gamers and they are very excited to move to amd when the 5000 series come out and I feel like I would look stupid for sticking with intel and people will look down on me if I dont switch to amd once zen 3 launches