Brother has an F30 as well but his is the 335d m sport X drive. He tuned his as well and it now makes 408 bhp. Unbelievable power from a diesel! Great review by the way 👍🏻
FBD allows you to do performance mods so long as you provide a letter from the mechanic saying its roadworthy Non-Performace mods (Wheels, Wraps, etc) dont need notification so long as they dont affect the performance of the car
@@jagman84 you'll get insurance for anything as long as it's stock. Getting insurance for anything with modifications is damn near impossible so most people who remap don't bother declaring it to their insurance company because the odds of it being detected is low.
@@Smithy350 what’s the story with vrt, I presume the vrt was paid based on the car being factory tuned to a certain co2 and nox emission amount, could you possibly be liable to pay more now that’s it’s being tuned? Also could it possibly fail nct if it’s out of spec? (Genuinely not having a go, thought about getting this done before but was reluctant due to possible complications down the road)
@@rapidrick hey man not at all. I'll be honest I'm not sure. When I got the car from the dealer it was bone stock apart from the previous owner replacing the run flats with regular michelin pilot sport 4 tyres. After hearing about the budget 2021 announcement I'm not sure what's going to happen. Worst case scenario I can get the stock map put back on the car when going in for nct in 2 years time. Externally the car looks the exact same as any other f30 3 series
I'd be curious to know if he's uprated the clutch and flywheel. If he hasn't whilst I know the OEM software map is created within certain safe tolerances to allow better longevity of parts, strictly speaking you should when you're mapping something to that extreme you should uprate your clutch, flywheel and brakes or face big bills down the line. Plus I wonder if he's declared it to the insurance and how much extra it has cost?
You can run it off petrol. Ive bought one recently and thats what ive been doing. Especially since i havent been doing much driving with lockdown. I havent actually charged it at all since i got it. In saying that, the car while running on petrol will somewhat charge the battery automatically. Ive heard if the car is in sports mode it has a good rate of charging the battery
Have one about a year - yeah you can, but there's literally no point in doing that. You're just lugging around 200 kilos of battery and electric motor for no good reason over a 328i. The hybrid grunt and range are really good so if you do buy one, definitely pony up the extra 500 quid for a charger for your house.
Great video Bob and nice to jazz it up a bit with some new content (chipping cars). Another video that might be of interest is to do one on buying a second hand car. Pros and cons of buying Irish versus importing from n.ireland and what to watch out for in terms of vehicle history checks and a breakdown on warrantys and how these too vary.
Hey Ryan. Message Peter Leather on facebook along with pics of your steering wheel and what you want done. He'll come back with a price. Will take about 2 weeks. Paid €100 including fitment
@@Smithy350 Hi Ronan. Would love to ask you a few questions about the car if you don't mind. Have one myself and thinking of doing the same. Where is best to contact you?
Hey Bob, Had a 'mechanic' cash in hand work on my car, doing brake disks, pads, and engine oil change, The car was damaged as the Jack collapsed as he was jacking it up, Oil leaked after he finished the job, had to redo it, Then I come to find I now have a Brake management light on centre console. before this we agreed a rate, but he had the audacity to ask for more, because of the issues, whats your opinion on this? thanks
Whats the downside of remapping the ECU? I presume the insurance co is kept in the dark. Does mpg not suffer, emissions rise? Presume his warranty is toast
Downside is over time the car has a little more wear and tear from working a little harder but this is a fresh car so it may be years and years before anything could wear out a little faster (if even). I remember all the diesel lads chipping and remapping and mpg didnt suffer too badly of u dont change ur driving style. Emissions rise only as u floor it more and hence use more petrol. Warranty is gone if they find out for sure but on the drivetrain and battery. The warranty for other things is still good though (I saw from owners comments on here he bought in Frank Keane, i too bought mine there and they confirmed to me go at it and remap if i want but their warranty is drasrically reduced. Anything that goes wrong that can be attributed to remap will be their get out on covering it. I suppose though i wouldnt worry too much on wear and tear as they are the same engine in 530e and newer 330e and give out 280+hp from same setup so strong enough that he'll probably not run into any problems.
@@tdikeith just to confirm I didn't buy it from Frank Keane but rather I had work done to the car where they replaced the charging mechanism. Still though no cost associated and it still has the full bmw service history. I'm making it sound as if I'm selling the car haha
Ah right i mistook it that u did as it was mentioned something about it in an earlier comment. Basically they said that anything on the warranty that is caused by wear and tear won't be covered unless its a failure that should never have gone, and that they also wouldn't take it in as a trade in in the future (which is understandable). I had an f10 520d before this g30 530e and it had some warranty stuff like on basics and they were excellent for warranty service so i think youd be fine in general bringing to a bmw garage and them being fair in return. Just don't lie to them as they can tell its had something done once it gets to a diagnostic step.
@@benno19891 massive difference. I actually ended up going with mgflasher and getting a downpipe for the car. Combined power was more than 400hp and 700nm. You could definitely feel a difference in power too with and without the charge in the battery
@@Minime7k funny enough i was curious to know this answer too thanks. Do you know if the remap makes much of a difference on insurances? Would it just be a case of you notifying them about what has changed or would the price be driven up
@@redrichie1772 most places won’t insure a remapped car 🤷🏼♂️ but it is very hard to detect in the event if an accident so do with that as you please 😊 ( I have an 330e also 360bhp )
@@Minime7k yeah haha i got a 330e recently and couldnt help but be tempted to mod it out. Not rice it tho but just make it more of an individual car. Great car it really is. Even stock you can have fun with it. Did you mention the remap to your insurance or just chance it. Also if you dont mind where did you get yours remapped?
I’m sure it’s somewhat similar over where you are but in the US in the 60s and 70s during the heyday of muscle cars anybody could be a car enthusiast and could have a bad ass car now because of the government involvement it takes a lot of money and dedication to be a car enthusiast
Excellent. Have this car myself - Is that steering wheel a complete replacement or is it just a cover? Would be interested myself as the stock one has terrible grip. Love the car otherwise. Great video!
I can send you pics if you like. Basically it's another steering wheel absolutely identical to mine but all button controls and everything are mine including the flappy paddles. If you message Peter Leather on Facebook he'll give you a quote. I asked for the bmw m colour with perforated stitching. Total cost came out to €100 cash
@@Smithy350 Yes cheers mate would love to see them. Email is jetfuel12[at]gmail.com Just so I'm clear its basically a replacement but with original controls? I see they do leather covers to stitch on on eBay aswell
@@Minime7k depends on how heavy your right foot is. If you end up not really using the electric motor around 30mpg. If using just the electric motor around the city 99.9. I usually leave it in auto and I'm getting mid 40s average. Now since my daily commute to work and back is less than 20kms I can just use battery power and end up filling up the car once a month. The fuel tank is about the same size as a fiesta at around 42 liters. I suppose that's the only thing you really need to look out for compared to a standard 3 series which would have a much bigger tank. It just depends on how you drive it. In my focus st diesel after that was mapped I could easily get 60mpg rather than 50mpg. With petrol engine not so much. Hope that answered your question Mark 😊
@@mamba101 yeah exactly. The work which was being done to the car was the charging socket which was replaced at no cost. The tune doesn't affect the hybrid end of things
There is nothing environmentally friendly about a 1.7 tons vehicle powered by both petrol (ice) and coal (battery). This is green-washing to continue business as usual as long as possible.
if you commute say 15 miles and have a charger at work then it allows you to do 100% of your commuting on electric only and then only burn petrol when you go on longer journeys, actually works quite well in that situation. If you do long journeys a lot then yes it is a waste of time and you'll be greener buying a pure diesel or big battery EV...
rajjy1976 it’s a proper driving position. Racing drivers sit close to the wheel, you can go full lock easier without having to adjust your hand position
Okay so each to their own but I really don’t get it just have yourself a Tesla dual motor four-wheel-drive 440 hp EV “stock” and save yourself a fortune on running costs maintenance and depreciation while you’re at it oh and no tax...
Teslas were designed by people who cycle to work. Unimaginative cars, especially the new model 3 one. Looks like a 2000s mazda 3 saloon got a facelift. If u want to drive a car and have fun and occasionally turn left or right instead of a straight line you don't consider a tesla.
@@tdikeith Completely agree with that statement even though my dad owns a tesla. I'd miss the noise of an engine too much too and besides I don't many people my age driving around in teslas. The guards might think its a bit suspicious haha
Very true. Been in a Model S as a passenger and thats about it. Similarly to how u most likely have bot been in or owned a BMW 330e either i assume. You and I can go on reviews and internet views. The Teslas are made for America where you have muscle cars go in a straight line. Teslas are great like many fast cars at straight lines. They get hammered in reviews for every day driving if you are a car lover. Important note. If u like dynamic driving, a sporty feel, a drivers car, then no one buys a Tesla. They are a statement in Model s form of having a lot of money (hey more power to ya) and being into novelty and gadgets. The controls dont make sense from driver perspective,the steering lacks all feedback, the interiors are shitty for the price point and very american (they dont have a patch on euro cars). So now Porsche has a Taycan Turbo s electric car that beats anything Tesla has to offer and handles i think there will be a new electric car for people to go on about.
@@tdikeith Well Keith, if you mourn the arrival of synchromesh for gearboxes then that's up to you. I have driven cars with no synchromesh on 1st and 2nd gear and the visceral driving experience starts to wear thin real quick. A BMW 330e in city traffic is about as involving to drive as a the laughably named Porsche Taycan "Turbo". Hint, it doesn't have a turbo. Of course BMW 330e's in traffic may have another kind of drama for the driver, in that they have a propensity to catch fire. Which is why there is a global recall on them and owners are advised not to use the tacked on electric car tax avoider mechanism. Because let's be honest, that's exactly what a 330e and it's ilk has been built to be, a modern version of the 1980s 1994 c.c. Turbo. A real actual turbo in this case, to avoid the higher car tax on bigger engined vehicles while delivering similar performance. PHEV = car tax saving. Most of them have never seen a charging plug in their lives. I know you have asserted your knowledge of a Tesla Model 3 when never having driven or even been a passenger in one - but I have to say I have indeed driven in, been a passenger in, both a 330e and it's bigger brother, the 530e. And very nice they are too, if pricey for what you get. Nothing wrong with them (apart from the previously mentioned catching fire) but in another 10 years, they will be gone, never to return. And the 330e only comes with an auto 'box, not a driver focused manual with six clutch actuated gears for the driving professional to pretend they are Formula One drivers. Oh and Formula one cars are automatics these days too. Give it five years maximum and Formula One cars won't be hybrids any more either, they will be electric. There may even be a team run by Tesla but they won't bother to stick a driver in them, Tesla's can drive themselves don'tcha know.
Brother has an F30 as well but his is the 335d m sport X drive. He tuned his as well and it now makes 408 bhp. Unbelievable power from a diesel! Great review by the way 👍🏻
Just ran into this lad about half an hour ago. Beautiful sound from it and it looks great!
I've remapped every car I've owned well worth the money as long as it has forced induction
Bob is the Irish Living Life Fast 🔥👍
I'd be interested to hear if any Irish insurance company will cover a remapped car here
Contact "Adrian Flux Insurance"
They insure everywhere in Ireland and specialise in Modified cars.
FBD allows you to do performance mods so long as you provide a letter from the mechanic saying its roadworthy
Non-Performace mods (Wheels, Wraps, etc) dont need notification so long as they dont affect the performance of the car
Like the new style of owners reviews well done. Loving the videos lately 👍
You Sir are my hero, ‘starts to conceive the next project...
Show me the results!
Not smart going on camera and saying his name and reg no. Unless he informed insurance company That guys insurance won't cover him if he crashes
Do they not insure cars with 345+ bhp in Ireland? Maybe they only want the mainstream customers who pay up without a quibble?
@@jagman84 you'll get insurance for anything as long as it's stock. Getting insurance for anything with modifications is damn near impossible so most people who remap don't bother declaring it to their insurance company because the odds of it being detected is low.
You're not the first to let me know of that and definitely won't be the last either
@@Smithy350 what’s the story with vrt, I presume the vrt was paid based on the car being factory tuned to a certain co2 and nox emission amount, could you possibly be liable to pay more now that’s it’s being tuned? Also could it possibly fail nct if it’s out of spec? (Genuinely not having a go, thought about getting this done before but was reluctant due to possible complications down the road)
@@rapidrick hey man not at all. I'll be honest I'm not sure. When I got the car from the dealer it was bone stock apart from the previous owner replacing the run flats with regular michelin pilot sport 4 tyres. After hearing about the budget 2021 announcement I'm not sure what's going to happen. Worst case scenario I can get the stock map put back on the car when going in for nct in 2 years time. Externally the car looks the exact same as any other f30 3 series
This should be the BMW M340e.
Great advertising for Murphy Tank Services there lol
Its the car still ok or anything like gearbox or engine broke or something after all of this horses ?
A Tuned PHEV 🤔 I never considered doing that 😳👍👍👍👍
You heard it here first 😂
Thanks bob I was just searching for a review on one of these this week and this is an amazing review!
Was good chatting to you on messenger Mark. Good luck with the new toy and well wear
Where did he get steering wheel bob
@@waynemcgrath4210 message Peter leather on Facebook and he can get you sorted
Nice complement to your usual videos and a good topic to cover too.
Great car to review. And everyone is interested in more power from their car
I'd be curious to know if he's uprated the clutch and flywheel. If he hasn't whilst I know the OEM software map is created within certain safe tolerances to allow better longevity of parts, strictly speaking you should when you're mapping something to that extreme you should uprate your clutch, flywheel and brakes or face big bills down the line. Plus I wonder if he's declared it to the insurance and how much extra it has cost?
Its an auto box and the manufacturer rates it for 750nm torque so sorted!
Lol very good what is the ev range ? Reminds me of days gone by when we all chipped Diesels .
Silly question if I get one of these cars , can I just run it on petrol and ignore the battery? Or do I have to charge the battery frequently too
You can run it off petrol. Ive bought one recently and thats what ive been doing. Especially since i havent been doing much driving with lockdown. I havent actually charged it at all since i got it. In saying that, the car while running on petrol will somewhat charge the battery automatically. Ive heard if the car is in sports mode it has a good rate of charging the battery
Have one about a year - yeah you can, but there's literally no point in doing that. You're just lugging around 200 kilos of battery and electric motor for no good reason over a 328i. The hybrid grunt and range are really good so if you do buy one, definitely pony up the extra 500 quid for a charger for your house.
@@Doesntwantachannel cheers buddy 👍
@@Doesntwantachannel Is it really critical to get the home charger or can you not just use the mains?
Just been looking for new TVs
On RUclips you popped up
Cool one 😎
Cool ting the tree turdy
That's truly fantastic genius 😋😃 the guy needs a medal #Bobflavin what a great find.
I won't say no to a medal Mark. I should really update my profile pic with a pic of my car instead
The vrt is quite low on them as well
Had VRT done on my 330e today. 1,008 euro
0:55 feck it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video Bob and nice to jazz it up a bit with some new content (chipping cars). Another video that might be of interest is to do one on buying a second hand car. Pros and cons of buying Irish versus importing from n.ireland and what to watch out for in terms of vehicle history checks and a breakdown on warrantys and how these too vary.
Nice review Bob, nice car.
Affects of the fuel economy after remap?
Remap only improves mpg if driven normal
Do the review on a standard 330 e m sport please
Hi Bob, does Ronan have the name of the place that wrapped the steering wheel?
Hey Ryan. Message Peter Leather on facebook along with pics of your steering wheel and what you want done. He'll come back with a price. Will take about 2 weeks. Paid €100 including fitment
@@Smithy350 brilliant! Cheers Ronan
@@ryanhitchcock2585 no bother Ryan
@@Smithy350 Hi Ronan. Would love to ask you a few questions about the car if you don't mind. Have one myself and thinking of doing the same. Where is best to contact you?
@@jimmyf669 hey James. You can get me on my Instagram page f30_330etuned
Hey Bob,
Had a 'mechanic' cash in hand work on my car, doing brake disks, pads, and engine oil change, The car was damaged as the Jack collapsed as he was jacking it up, Oil leaked after he finished the job, had to redo it, Then I come to find I now have a Brake management light on centre console. before this we agreed a rate, but he had the audacity to ask for more, because of the issues, whats your opinion on this? thanks
Don’t go to a cheap mechanic only go to bmw :)
The Irish accent is a beautiful thing
Edit: I meant ting
Had mine done made it a fun car to drive smile factor all the way love it
Does stage 1 improve the electric range?
Whats the downside of remapping the ECU? I presume the insurance co is kept in the dark. Does mpg not suffer, emissions rise? Presume his warranty is toast
Downside is over time the car has a little more wear and tear from working a little harder but this is a fresh car so it may be years and years before anything could wear out a little faster (if even). I remember all the diesel lads chipping and remapping and mpg didnt suffer too badly of u dont change ur driving style. Emissions rise only as u floor it more and hence use more petrol. Warranty is gone if they find out for sure but on the drivetrain and battery. The warranty for other things is still good though (I saw from owners comments on here he bought in Frank Keane, i too bought mine there and they confirmed to me go at it and remap if i want but their warranty is drasrically reduced. Anything that goes wrong that can be attributed to remap will be their get out on covering it.
I suppose though i wouldnt worry too much on wear and tear as they are the same engine in 530e and newer 330e and give out 280+hp from same setup so strong enough that he'll probably not run into any problems.
@@tdikeith well said Keith. Couldn't have said it better myself.
@@tdikeith just to confirm I didn't buy it from Frank Keane but rather I had work done to the car where they replaced the charging mechanism. Still though no cost associated and it still has the full bmw service history. I'm making it sound as if I'm selling the car haha
Ah right i mistook it that u did as it was mentioned something about it in an earlier comment.
Basically they said that anything on the warranty that is caused by wear and tear won't be covered unless its a failure that should never have gone, and that they also wouldn't take it in as a trade in in the future (which is understandable). I had an f10 520d before this g30 530e and it had some warranty stuff like on basics and they were excellent for warranty service so i think youd be fine in general bringing to a bmw garage and them being fair in return. Just don't lie to them as they can tell its had something done once it gets to a diagnostic step.
I think this car is beside me
Thanks again for reviewing my car Bob. Any questions you can get me on my Instagram f30_330etuned
This Ronan from the video, he knows all the details on the car 👆
Is the car still alive
@@benno19891 it is but I don’t own it anymore
Cheers for that, I have a 2018 one that is stock, suppose to be getting it tuned next week. Does it make a massive difference?
@@benno19891 massive difference. I actually ended up going with mgflasher and getting a downpipe for the car. Combined power was more than 400hp and 700nm. You could definitely feel a difference in power too with and without the charge in the battery
“...changes everything...” does that include emissions? Will it pass the NCT? Will your insurance cover a modified car?
Hybrids are exempt from emissions test in nct so will pass no problem
@@Minime7k funny enough i was curious to know this answer too thanks. Do you know if the remap makes much of a difference on insurances? Would it just be a case of you notifying them about what has changed or would the price be driven up
@@redrichie1772 most places won’t insure a remapped car 🤷🏼♂️ but it is very hard to detect in the event if an accident so do with that as you please 😊 ( I have an 330e also 360bhp )
@@Minime7k yeah haha i got a 330e recently and couldnt help but be tempted to mod it out. Not rice it tho but just make it more of an individual car. Great car it really is. Even stock you can have fun with it. Did you mention the remap to your insurance or just chance it. Also if you dont mind where did you get yours remapped?
@@redrichie1772 what they don’t know can’t hurt them. 🤣 bmworkshop in rathcoole very well done I must say
I’m sure it’s somewhat similar over where you are but in the US in the 60s and 70s during the heyday of muscle cars anybody could be a car enthusiast and could have a bad ass car now because of the government involvement it takes a lot of money and dedication to be a car enthusiast
are the wheels stock?
Poverty spec. No heated seats, business nav, no HK speakers, no privacy glass, no adaptive lighting, no.......the list goes on
Warranty and insurance?
Registered BMW tuner so warranty remains in place.
@@BobFlavinVideo Cheers, but what about the insurance?
Excellent. Have this car myself - Is that steering wheel a complete replacement or is it just a cover? Would be interested myself as the stock one has terrible grip. Love the car otherwise. Great video!
It’s a cover on the original but it feels completely stock, perfect job
I can send you pics if you like. Basically it's another steering wheel absolutely identical to mine but all button controls and everything are mine including the flappy paddles. If you message Peter Leather on Facebook he'll give you a quote. I asked for the bmw m colour with perforated stitching. Total cost came out to €100 cash
@@Smithy350 Yes cheers mate would love to see them. Email is jetfuel12[at]gmail.com Just so I'm clear its basically a replacement but with original controls? I see they do leather covers to stitch on on eBay aswell
@@Smithy350 can I ask what mpg you get now after the map? Thanks in advance 😊
@@Minime7k depends on how heavy your right foot is. If you end up not really using the electric motor around 30mpg. If using just the electric motor around the city 99.9. I usually leave it in auto and I'm getting mid 40s average. Now since my daily commute to work and back is less than 20kms I can just use battery power and end up filling up the car once a month. The fuel tank is about the same size as a fiesta at around 42 liters. I suppose that's the only thing you really need to look out for compared to a standard 3 series which would have a much bigger tank.
It just depends on how you drive it. In my focus st diesel after that was mapped I could easily get 60mpg rather than 50mpg. With petrol engine not so much. Hope that answered your question Mark 😊
What happens to the warranty ?
My car still has a warranty until the end of the year
@@BishBosh24 I had litteraly just gotten the car back from Frank Keane bmw and they themselves told me it still had a warranty
@@Smithy350 You told them it was remapped and they said warranty not affected? 😂😂
I think BMW will honour the warranty but not if they can say the issue was due to the remap. But sure warranty is nearly up anyway.
@@mamba101 yeah exactly. The work which was being done to the car was the charging socket which was replaced at no cost. The tune doesn't affect the hybrid end of things
Owner of that car should go all the way and install LPG in that BMW !!!
Two cool 😎 Guy's. Love the car Ronan as I said before
frank metcalfe cheers Frank. Much appreciated
Hope he’s told his insurance company
Hmmmmm - Get my Kia Soul Ex chipped - lololol
There is nothing environmentally friendly about a 1.7 tons vehicle powered by both petrol (ice) and coal (battery). This is green-washing to continue business as usual as long as possible.
if you commute say 15 miles and have a charger at work then it allows you to do 100% of your commuting on electric only and then only burn petrol when you go on longer journeys, actually works quite well in that situation. If you do long journeys a lot then yes it is a waste of time and you'll be greener buying a pure diesel or big battery EV...
Thats deadly news about the tax..👍😎
Ah normal bmw parking job at the start
Not sure why everyone has such low figures! I’ve got a stage 1 330e . 370bhp & 631nm
its been 2 months now is your bmw still working haha
Is it still working
Still working? How many total miles?
? insurance
You bought a red BMW! Enjoy the upcoming points on your licence. Not to mention voiding your battery warranty.
I guess when you don't have a girlfriend, dropping 270 on a remap is easy breezy.
Man, my granny doesn’t even sit that close to the steering wheel. You’re a tall guy Bob, wtf? 😂
rajjy1976 it’s a proper driving position. Racing drivers sit close to the wheel, you can go full lock easier without having to adjust your hand position
@@gpzfan5272 It’s a road test review bud. But thanks for your input.
Okay so each to their own but I really don’t get it just have yourself a Tesla dual motor four-wheel-drive 440 hp EV “stock” and save yourself a fortune on running costs maintenance and depreciation while you’re at it oh and no tax...
Teslas were designed by people who cycle to work. Unimaginative cars, especially the new model 3 one. Looks like a 2000s mazda 3 saloon got a facelift. If u want to drive a car and have fun and occasionally turn left or right instead of a straight line you don't consider a tesla.
@@tdikeith Completely agree with that statement even though my dad owns a tesla. I'd miss the noise of an engine too much too and besides I don't many people my age driving around in teslas. The guards might think its a bit suspicious haha
@@tdikeith Spoken like someone who has never driven a Tesla.
Very true. Been in a Model S as a passenger and thats about it. Similarly to how u most likely have bot been in or owned a BMW 330e either i assume.
You and I can go on reviews and internet views. The Teslas are made for America where you have muscle cars go in a straight line. Teslas are great like many fast cars at straight lines. They get hammered in reviews for every day driving if you are a car lover. Important note. If u like dynamic driving, a sporty feel, a drivers car, then no one buys a Tesla. They are a statement in Model s form of having a lot of money (hey more power to ya) and being into novelty and gadgets. The controls dont make sense from driver perspective,the steering lacks all feedback, the interiors are shitty for the price point and very american (they dont have a patch on euro cars). So now Porsche has a Taycan Turbo s electric car that beats anything Tesla has to offer and handles i think there will be a new electric car for people to go on about.
@@tdikeith Well Keith, if you mourn the arrival of synchromesh for gearboxes then that's up to you. I have driven cars with no synchromesh on 1st and 2nd gear and the visceral driving experience starts to wear thin real quick. A BMW 330e in city traffic is about as involving to drive as a the laughably named Porsche Taycan "Turbo". Hint, it doesn't have a turbo. Of course BMW 330e's in traffic may have another kind of drama for the driver, in that they have a propensity to catch fire. Which is why there is a global recall on them and owners are advised not to use the tacked on electric car tax avoider mechanism. Because let's be honest, that's exactly what a 330e and it's ilk has been built to be, a modern version of the 1980s 1994 c.c. Turbo. A real actual turbo in this case, to avoid the higher car tax on bigger engined vehicles while delivering similar performance. PHEV = car tax saving. Most of them have never seen a charging plug in their lives. I know you have asserted your knowledge of a Tesla Model 3 when never having driven or even been a passenger in one - but I have to say I have indeed driven in, been a passenger in, both a 330e and it's bigger brother, the 530e. And very nice they are too, if pricey for what you get. Nothing wrong with them (apart from the previously mentioned catching fire) but in another 10 years, they will be gone, never to return. And the 330e only comes with an auto 'box, not a driver focused manual with six clutch actuated gears for the driving professional to pretend they are Formula One drivers. Oh and Formula one cars are automatics these days too. Give it five years maximum and Formula One cars won't be hybrids any more either, they will be electric. There may even be a team run by Tesla but they won't bother to stick a driver in them, Tesla's can drive themselves don'tcha know.