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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- T&L has delivered some of the best group/guild PVP experience i've ever experienced in an MMO. This is a fight our guild lost, but it was still an epic one
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This is just Node war people,, Can't wait for Castle siege war
2:10 hate when someone instruct like that, its noisy and doesnt help anything
3:16 naa its bad tactic basically just screaming "KEEP' DYING KEEP DYING!!" instead off actually finding some tactic to retain your people and numbers ^^
Meanwhile I got him muted
Is there any small scale pvp. like 3v3/ 5v5, 10v10?
This is more like world vs world zerging.
There is pvp events but still doesnt mean u gonna get 5 v 5 or 10 v 10 , mostly like 5 v 5 v 5 v 5 v5 v 5 v 5 v 5 +++++
Not yet but it’s said they will implement small scale pvp. I hope it will be something like Aions dredgion 😅
@@haka5917 im sure in 2 years this mmo will be x10 times better :D
i was wishing for them to take WoW as an inspiration for pvp modes. Can't do any better. Exactly those. arena, and battleground. done.
@@ecosti But this MMO is like 3 years old right ?
And to think we could have had true open world PVP like lineage 2......but the complainers ruined it for us.
best thing ever. and pk system too
L2 PvP/PK system has never been surpassed imo
Could you elaborate on this please? What has changed? I never played this game
impressive but not sure if i can manage to follow what is happening on the screen, is there solo pvp battles oriented types of events?
God I hope so. hundreds of players just pulling people into their clusterfuck is cheap and boring
Most of it seems larger scale but there are some small scale engagements kinda like eso
@@inkwyvern5171 quite the opposite for me and thousands of others lol looks fun af! the world boss pvp and open world dungeons with pvp seem fun!
@@AstroeX21 "thousands of others"? And you'll justify these thousands by claiming it _"seems fun,"_ and it _"looks fun",_ without actually knowing or experiencing it? Well, without making an appeal to popularity, I can tell you from my experience playing these types of games combat will devolve into two nebulous blobs representing players repelling each other like magnets but sucking in stragglers or anyone not part of 'the blob'. You're either in the blob, or you're dead.
While in the blob, all you'll do is watch other players evaporate in a second on contact with your blob; if you even get to press one button that makes contact before they evaporate you aren't pressing a second. This is boring. It requires no skill, no strategy, and you and your thousands will quickly learn that the scale's too large for anything fun and engaging.
This only appeals to large, guild-oriented, reputation-driven "all-for-one" collectives (or in actuality, a select inner circle of elites who'll gain all the riches and glory and credit at _your_ expense like the fodder you'll be), who'll exploit the numbers you're defending only to their advantage, and at the sacrifice of combat, fun and engagement.
Once you've had a taste of this, you'll be hoping for small scale content too.
Trust me, you get used to it in time.
This is a real war~~~~~!
It's amazing !!!!!!!
braindead pvp
mimimimimim play dota gringo @@pogo6543211111111
@@pogo6543211111111 if things dealt a bit more damage i think this game will be fun, hard to say what the final release considering they fixed alot of issues since that first early alpha
amazing to watch and be part of. also amazing if u don't want to matter at all but feel like something is happening. but it looks great and should be fun. just can't imagine that it sattisfies ones personal skill-o-meter, if that is something one cares about :)
I hope there is opportunity for solo type pvp
@@The-Dark-TowerHmm i have experienced solo pvp while farming in ant nest. Some guy jumped on me, but he couldnt kill me since i can outheal his damage so he gave up.
@@The-Dark-Tower Solo world PVP is way better than zerg vs zerg nontent.. oh listen to braindead orders by someone who acts like a leader and just aoe a bunch.
@aykutsirma sadly many people didnt want pvp zonws so its specific now but every 2 houes u have pvp events plus the gvg and sieges. Its enough to tske away ur thirst for pvp. Plus more will come in the future :)
@@The-Dark-Tower i played lineage 2 from c1 brother :D im with u i wish we see more races more skills but remmeber lineage didnt come out as we know it , mmos evolve and this will evolve too in the future , there is clan halls , there is sieges , there is guild vs guild events , but what i realize threw years is that games like lineage tend to die cz casual players leave , or cz too much pvp people get de motivated, or too much forced pvp or pk's make ppl stop playuing , im with u i love all this stuff cz i was a lineage 2 veteran and addict for many years but balance in everything sometimes its good , we have to give some things away to keep a healthy community , its the truth and they know it cz look at wow pve fiesta and its there. TL can cover both players there is pve , there is pvp.
They went away from the lineage 3 tittle for this reason cz they moved away from it a lot.
dungeons where open pvp areas , night was open pvp whenever a region is in night they removed that too , bosses where always pvp areas now are split some pve some pvp , i know i feel u but its not so terible in the end and literally every other mmo nowdays is dogshit so i am enjoying my time , im having fun , and the moment i wont have fun i will just not play so much.
this weekend i think we have first sieges so thats another one thing to keep an eye on
What T&L need is "PVP ARENAS" like Lost Ark have with some kind of balance and then you keep happy users who like small PVP size, that's all, not so hard to do.
I hoped that TL would offer me an experience similar to Aion, but unfortunately not even close.
Aion was a lag fest 😂
@@UruseiYatsubecause of bad engine. If they would do it now, itll be best pvp game again.
@@pajerjekktaion 2
@@pajerjekkt Nah bdo has the best combat system tho. Action combat is so much better
@@UruseiYatsu So sorry for your internet experience you had...
Can't wait for the true endgame and watch Asmon swipe/loose his mind at the upgrade npc.
Weird....
Is this a raid or you can only PVP in party of 6?
That shot caller is hellah cringe
He's awful to listen to. Repeats everything so many times. I'd rage having to listen to someone like that giving direction. Imagine if gps repeated everything 3 times to you lol. Turn left at the light, left at the light left at the light turn now turn now now now now.
Yeah talking too much
bro thinks he's him
He's saying the most obvious things with an annoying voice. Dude needs to realize some people aren't meant to lead and that's okay.
2 Questions: 1, Will console players have disadvantage in PvP battles? Is Mouse+keyboard much better than controllers? 2, What PC configuration is recommended to have a smooth experience in these large-scale PvP battles? Is i5+4060 sufficient? Thanks in advance.
From my experience I say controller gameplay is at a disadvantage vs MnK especially on this game. And for console it’s not anywhere near optimized like it is for PC
Used to clan pk in OSRS miss getting into large clan fights like this makes me really excited for Throne & Liberty to release
Same
@@maxkilla16 Bro clan pking was sooo fun in oldschool runescape I miss it so much even before discord was out having organized clan fights deep out in wilderness or clan wars mini game everyone organized in Teamspeak and having the shot caller or Warlord calling was such a great feeling easily some of my favorite memories from my childhood growing up
When is this out I’m Europe?
Looks amazing …
I've never found enjoyment in zerg pvp where numbers overcome skill by a large marging. Yet it is truly amazing that the client runs that smoothly with all those players on the screen. I can see myself trying this game for its potential (not AGS fan after NW and LA poor management :'( ), hope there are more battlegorund/arena/open world pvp as concurred as this so I could play that form instead of GvG. Thanks for the content!
let mess guess, you never trying aion before? ahahaha
People not yet realising how impressive one aspect is. This game is played in KR and it runs butter smooth with all these details supporting DLSS 3.5 you have insane FPS. I have seen on my rig FPS ranging from 100-240. I started MMOS with aion when you got in large scale fps would tank and even encountering one opponent would make your game hikup. It is nothing like that this game looks gorgeous and runs nicely
Those AION fortress sieges are a core memory for me.
@@GamingGuruGabe I am glad am not the only one. I will never forget Aion pvp truly the best for me
When is the global release
Soon
october 1st, you can predownload it right now
The Throne and Liberty is very very exciting game.
Top so far. I'm very curious. i just hope they keep investing alot of analysis what could be best to implement, like get inspired by the right games and gamemodes, so they can implement it to their game and make it better and better. Let's see!
I neever see a smoth game like this 🎉❤Its insane MMO with Fps.
Have you never seen world of warcraft? lmfao...this looks awful.
"this is just....." A numbers game? Yeah thats the problem, lol. Youll get it one day.
wow i like this kind of PVP in mmorpg, many players involve
Great video! GVG is great !
Healers looks clean in this compared to new world where everywhere is just sacred ground on our screen hard to see anything.
i'll never understand the fun in zerging for pvp.
the best thing is to let the zerg zerg, and do ur own thang, pick out ppl from the backline, from time to time dominate in a 3v1, get jumped and kill them all, and get killed. Oh shit, i forgot, that's wow, and noone was able to copy it so far... i'm trying all games in this genre... :D Wow, king for a reason and for ever.
The fun comes when everyone in the zerg has an important role. If you're just bashing heads with the other zerg then it's just about who has more numbers. If you have an actual composition and organized roles, then it's amazing. Haven't played this game just yet, but coming from Albion Online, I can tell you, those 100 vs 100 battles are the absolute best.
It's wild how much this fight reminds me of an EVE Online Fleet battle
The slower combat allows for more tactical decisions to be made on the fly
Zergling warfare 😂. Looks interesting though.
It looks like a Modern Shaiya from Aeriagames.
for sure!! shaiya was the best and the worst all at the same time 😂
so like any other mmo? Looks fun tho
Well most mmos have severe performance issues with half that many people.. to be fair
@@7128jml true wow struggles once its like past 100+ players
@@whoopsie321 way less than that it's already a struggle
Most of these other MMOs are trending towards solo weirdo shit…..
This is insane i missed Guild wars
This is war.. With isometric visual😂
I have never been interested in PvP in any game, and I am one of those who get killed in two or three hits in this game... but I think I want to be better and do some PvP now... It looks fun.
Are there smaller battles?
Jesus the dude barking orders is extremely annoying to listen to. I couldn't get past a minute into this video without getting annoyed by this guy's voice.
Cause of your ego
@@Naiceratops he's not the only one - look at the comments xD what has ego to do when you don't like annoying voices XD
PUSH IN THERE PUSH IN THERE 😖😖
reminds me of aion sieges, no amount of gear can save from that zerg
i hope SEA can experience this without vpn when it is out and not just NA/EU
If it is from Amazon, will be the same as lost ark and new world. WHich is only for NA/EU
Healthbars are way too big takes up whole screen....shrink those by half
Reminds me of eso ball grouping
Omg come on global release. Finally a game I can't wait for, lol.
It's alright
Group PVP looks fun though
New World is still a good game if you do PVP☝🏻🔥.
Archeage 1 лучшая игра для масс пвп
the xp loss is scary wtf is that system never saw that
Bound to wipe with a leader that confuses East with West lol
I wish there were some abilities that were glashy not all but like 1 ir 2 on each class
Glashy ?
can u show us all of ur settings please ty
looks bloody good! gives me OG archeage vibes alot.
What server are you on? I picked just a random one but there's almost no english speaking guilds
It might give *YOU* the vibe, but I've done plenty of lvl 50 pvp in T&L and the feel of the combat is HORRIBLE compared to Archeage's smoothness and responsiveness, T&L also has combos but everything is ruined by that janky/slow feeling...
Thankfully Koreans are constantly voicing how much they hate it to the point were NCsoft said they're going to "keep improving it" other than that the game is great
@@Lowthiel yes vibes. didn't say the combat and stuff is the same. definitely a very different and more clunky combat system but I don't mind it. Archeage will always have the most superior combat.
Lets hope for the improvements!
The game comes out on console September 17th should be tons of English players coming soon
Is it only me that this pvp scenario feels like Guild Wars 2 ? I mean i was watching the video and i was wondering if i misstyped and this actually Guild Wars 3 :)
How is the ping?
Hi, thanks for videos, but have 1 question : What is end game ? if you get max lvl in 2few" days, what to do next ? endless unchanting ? but there is no random, no fails or im wrong ? learn all weapons, how long it will take 1-2 weeks ?
build your purple weaps, skills, get traits. full purple is already gonna take u months, getting them to +9 is gonna be another few months
@@thesteakatstake8920 thanks for answer. So max 2 months of grinding in korean game ? Looks like its game made for west ;) How long it will survive when you got all at max and nothing to do, how many games, without "end game" content survived ? ;)
@@tadasblinda6232 the biggest problem i see is the combat system. Its boring its not BDO combat system sadly
@@JustGameplay112 BDO is not a reference for large scale fights, too much action combat. ESO and GW2 are way better for it
@@tadasblinda6232 which is why this game will be a banger for the first few months as everyone is chasing max build and the game will probably fall off if they add nothing new after that, or if the endgame loop is good or not, we haven't seen it in korea yet
They did good by not making an insane amount of AoE's, this wouldnt be possible with that kind of combat.
Exactly
Tab targeting makes this kind of pvp borring af, aos stuff would make it better
This pvp reminds of SWTOR hopefully it doesn't go down the same road and dies
Kinda reminds the game on steam that has a 8vs8 version
This is such a sad imitation of lineage 2... I cant believe they can get it so wrong 20 years later... maybe another 20 year wait we will have a game on the same level as L2..
Hype! 🤩
Can't see anything just health bars and diamonds icons :(
New to pvp in MMOs? You get use to it after a while 😂
Whats the purpose of node wars?
What's with the mob pop-in?
is pvp free loot?
looking good ngl
Reminds me of one of my friends giving directions. "Right up... right... no left, left, sorry". It looks ok but tab targeting for ZvZ is just horrific gameplay.
cant wait for it to come out on Xbox when ever that is
So 1v1 isn't a thing?
Why would it be in guild vs guild
Just how open world pvp I think always ends up working. You either like it or hate it and I unfortunately never want to do open world pvp again for this particular reason. I loved it during DAoC but that's over a decade ago 😅
They have a duel arena thing...just for fun I guess
I’ve found 1v1’s/free for alls at events. Till you run into a decent guild/group 😅
This is a guild vs guild control point event. Solos have no role here. There are free for all PVP events for solos
the son of Lineage 2 !
Lol just wait till the albion online player base and zvz callers get into this game
looks like albion online zvz but RTX on
Looks a blast. Going to be toxic as hell though lol.
That was intense
watson said he can vod review you
Is that ngxRauof talking ?
You mean they don't load everyone's stash that enters the screen?.....wwwwuuuuutttt
This game needs battlegrounds and arena!!!
Whats crazy about this is pc is playing with console.
is this game well optimized?
Not for console. And for pc I’m sure there’s some jenks
It is very well optimized on PC, especially for free
Like...most optimized game i have played in years as far as dive in and play goes, with minimal tweaking. Disable hair strands, motion blur, and depth of field. Tweak grass and shadows on low if needed, otherwise it's great out of the box.
Gameplay is a different story, but optimized- YES.
shot caller need some works.
This looks like Albion Online pvp lol
damn your leader certainly doesn't know how to be tatical lol. "just push in there under the node", when you do that you literally get surrounded by everyone lol. aaand 10 seconds later this is exactly what happened.
2 prong flank on that node
Yeah, the only thing he knows is attack and retreat, they didn't even divide there clan into teams, or would that be bad? I don't know
@@killerSFA7 nah it's not bad, dividing teams is literally the standard that every good player does because it is so effective.
You would need at least 3 teams for a somewhat coordinated attack.
I was always very successful with 6 teams.
For example, team 1 and 2 attack on the left, team 1 is at the front and team 2 at the back, as soon as team 1 gets low they swap positions with team 2.
Easy to understand, easy to execute and easy to communicate.
On comparison thm having one person shouting in or out is literally worse than no coordination lol.
People in comments comparing bdo and tal, you guys clueless. Bdo is action style mmo, more like a beat em up and this is the classic mmorpg combat. Its not nearly the same and uts a matter of taste
Thank you finally a reasonable person lol , one pve focused and other its pvp focused aka action combat vs tab target. Its about taste ! Well done sir
@@ecosti tab target does not mean it's not skill it's just different. If you have range of things you can do to outplay someone tab target can be super fun and we see WOW persisting still today so this style is very acceptable. For me, I like that type of combat in an mmo
@@RaidenLimbSlicer no no i never said tab target has no skill , i would say it has more skill in understanding the game mechanics and using brain than smashing buttons in abnoxious action combat , im all down for the tab target , what i said is action combat cannot support proper mass pvp cz the technology is not there to support it yet
im playing TL everyday i love it , today i create new char with wand , seems really nice :D
Im just talking, not referring to your message in that regard. In any case, the problem for me in BDO is the god damn interface, as a new player i was so confused wtf am i looking at and questiing is boring. The world seems more engaging in TAL@@ecosti
The most relatable is Lost Ark outside of mechanics / combat
The stability is impressive, but the gameplay itself looks super mid.
pretty nuts, whoever was leading the raid sux tho, guy needs to relax in his life a lil
idk man, most raid leaders are like him, from my experience.
It's the CoD Warfare generation. Short simple spam.
It works though, efficiently
Sad game could have been fun
Albion Online vibes :D
mindless zerg
Great action! But you are going against basic art of war principles :/
They have to redo the UI for sure. Maybe this is how they want it but its just looking at HP bars and i really dont like it when its just HP bar wars instead of actually seeing and calling things you see happending. Instead it will be the normal Hop in blow AOE and try to survive and kill the others/time it better then the others.. Hope the PvP overall will be fun in the game tho but maybe 1-5 vs 1-5 will be the best type of PvP.
Is albion in unreal engine 5 😂
It's tab targeting...
How do u play
You cant, you see shit in the screen and you press buttons
Looks fun but from this video i will say mute is a must.
STILL, no open wprld pvp is like Lineage 2 used to have. I mean NOT A SINGLE mmo scratched what l2 had in terms of pvp, pve, dungeons, raids, sieges, wars etc... the karma/flag/pk system was the best. Sadly now all want pve mmo for some mysterious reasons, or "i wanna chill and dont want to engage in pvp at all" -_-
Because people are tired of pay to win.
@@homerl7 i LITERALLY never mentioned p2w but ok.
@@akumawashere6620 I didn't said that you mentioned p2w. It was my answer to your comment on why people want pve. They want pve because always pvp is p2w. People got tired of throwing money on their screen only to find out that someone else threw more money and they are dead on two hits. It's not skill, it's p2w and people are tired.
@@homerl7 yea you are kinda right, but still this is smth the company can fix but me personally IM TIRED of pve. 99% of mmos are pve nowdays and i want smth new. but lets see.. it will be f2p at least 2 months with the hope it doesnt turn to a shitshow pve dungeon simulator
Its look kinda like albion online bruh 😅
this guy need more practice commanding, i suggest you to watch zerg comms from guild wars 2.
I also made the error of thinking that this game may give some vibes from Aion, but it is not even comparable. I also tested BDO for a while and it was cool, but really I found nothing better, more dynamic, and more precise than Aion. Guess back to Euroaion then haha :)
Same, for me Aion 4.0-4.7 was the best, and I tried BDO, FF14, Tera, Lost ark, GW2, etc. but nothing was as good as Aion, sadly devs ruined the game by removing content
Yo@@yoshi3706 , Euroaion is 4.6 , you may want to look it up a bit if you are interested . Good luck and I wish you the best my fellow old Aion player !
Zzzz... Zerg numbers combat
It's ridiculous that the time to get back into the PvP zone is so short, yet the TTK of the RvR is so long. This is extremely bad game design and further reinforces numbers meta, since you just need to stall enough for the morons who were out of position to come back and throw their bodies at the attacking clump again and eventually wear them down.
This needs to be addressed ASAP and included in the next patch. Frankly, it's even embarrassing it got out of design phase and into live servers in the first place. Makes me wonder where their game design team came from cause it sure isn't from Lineage 2.
“We have BDO at home”
BDO at home:
i hate it when people say the same thing over and over 5 times. like bruh 50 people heard you the first time STFU
noone pushing wow..... we had 200 ppl in lineage 2, leader said one word everyone was going in like crazy, wtf is going on in 2024 hahhahaha
Yep game korea atau cina pasti skill gamenya banyak banget aneh aja gitu wkwk, beda sama New world yg cuman 3 skill. Jadi lebih realistic gitu.