There is nothing called the «Nord Grand Engine» (It’s called the «Nord Piano Library»,and that could be what you actually ment)Both the Nord Electro, Nord Stage and the Nord Grand share the same Nord Piano Samples and all will give you the exact same sound…
I have been playing a used KORG SV1 73 that's on consignment at the local record shop, and it's great. The SV2 looks and sounds even better. I think it's the one for me. Saving my pennies!
Nicely done video. Thanks! I really like the sound of all three of those instruments. They're each appealing to me in other ways, too. I like the color coding on the CP panel, the overall versatility of the Nord, and the feel of the keybed on the Korg. I'm not a gigging keyboardist, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the user interfaces on stage pianos. Though the panels may look complicated at first, they tend to be logical and fairly intuitive. I personally enjoy having immediate access to the most often-used controls. The built-in speakers on (one of the versions of) the Korg, make it especially appealing to me.
Very good video on three of the most popular ones atm. Atleast in their class. I think Korg has outdone themselves on this one. It's one of those instruments that is gonna be sought after long after it goes out of production. I changed the pedal. That was about it.
Yamaha is easy to carry and lightweight. It still has the best pianos like bosendorfer that is sensational, CFX and Nashville. EPs are incredible, I don't need anything else.
I love the look and sound of all 3 of these. Unfortunately, in my area the only shops I can think of that carry instruments like these are big chain stores, and it's hit and miss what they'll have on display. I'm really curious how the action compares. I play a lot of instruments, but for a stage piano it would be nice if it felt as realistic as possible. One special advantage the Korg has for me is the 73-key option. It has the same action as the 88-key and that makes it one of the only hammer-action stage pianos that *might* fit in the passenger seat of my 2-seater (it has a large trunk for its size, so I can fit a folding table stand and other gear there). Anyone try these pianos out in person? As of this post, the only one I've tried is the Nord. It felt absolutely fantastic to me.
As for the E.Piano, it's Rhodes, Wurli...- On VOX Continental the best E.Pianos from KORG (together with VOX). And only in VOX so far, nowhere else have I seen such chic E.Pianos from KORG. Therefore, the SV-2 is not the top-of-the-line in E.Pianos from KORG, I generally keep quiet about the ORGAN engine. And I want to say that I appreciate it higher than NORD, not only due to timbre and subtle nuances but also due to dynamic range. NuTube is worth adding to this - and the timbres of electromechanical instruments sound .... well, you know what I mean. Why is VOX Continental so in the shadows...
Appreciate this video. I was a long time lover of the SV-1, but if the SV-2 is similar with a different sound bank that's actually pretty unappealing to me. I was hesitant purchasing the SV-1 due to latency in the keys - felt like they were weighing down my playing in their response. The CP-40 was an amazing keyboard and tried to do the same as Nord - but I'm glad Yamaha went a different route with the CP-88. The keybed is a much loved feel, the sounds are great and still similar to the CP-40 where you can change the sounds however you like (but reset them much easier). The Nord is a tricky one - I think a lot of people get high off of the "endless bank of sounds". Not many people I know use their Nord for all the sounds - mostly just stick to a solid few because they like the key touch and the organ/rhodes sounds (which are awesome). Usually Nord players typically are multi-keyboard players anyway. Just my take. It's a fun piece and the sounds are really great (like the Mac of keyboards lol), but scrolling through an infinite bank on that screen is a pain in the ass which is why people don't typically use them all even if its their main board.
Awesome video, straight to the point. Personally I would get CP but for home use, SV2s speakers are much welcome asset. I don’t like the fact that you have to use computer with SV2 to get sounds that are not accessible through the front panel
What makes you decide the Yamaha is best for home use? Assuming it's amped to a non expensive amp (9r studio monitors?) vs Korg sv2 speaker version, no amp or monitors, stock in built speakers
I just sent back my second SV-2S (with speakers) as the tube resonated with the speakers on certain mid-register keys - which made an audible buzz, very much worse on the second one on which it was more of a rattle. The first one also had a serious speaker resonance problem. I also experienced problems with the so-called seamless preset change. Which doesn't work particularly well with layered sounds. So I am not taking any more chances with a third SV-2S. I am currently looking in the direction of the CP-88 because of its hands-on layering properties and the fact that it has its own audio interface, so you can run soft synths etc. through the piano to the out channels :)
@@geggytar the cp-88 - wooden keys, very nice :) I also like the sectioned layers although I primarily use the pianosection alone. Not optimal for classical but I make it work. It also works well as a midi keyboard and has the audio interface. So loads of hands-on tweaking possibilities and it has the extra input channel which I've tried with a microphone through a multieffect box - works well. Fun to play with but a bit of an over-kill for home use, however, the keybed made the difference for me.
I've owned a Nord Electro 5D HP. Sold it because the action became very noisy and not enjoyable to play. The acoustic piano sound was amazing though and really cutting through the mix in any context. Anyone knows if the KORG SV II has the same presence on stage in a band
Ha, ha! I think it's the first time I've seen this old video. It's nicely presented (great voice) but a bit thin on data. It would have been good to mention which ones have seemless program changes, meaning switching between sounds while playing without any dropouts. And do any provide morphing on splits? While the presenter is right not to give overtly subjective opinions on the actions, he could mention that the RH3 action on the Korg is heavier than on most other stage pianos (which I like, but some people don't) plus mention any texturing and the wood keys on the CP-88. The Korg SV2-73 (without speakers) is currently a bit cheaper than the Yamaha CP-73, at least where I buy. I'm guessing it's a similar story with the 88s. It's worth noting that the Korg SV2-73 is the only 73-key stage piano with a graded weighted action. 88s tend to have graded actions of course.
I've got a question , if I'm looking for an authentic Rhodes , with some nice sub bass in its sound , who offers it? I really want the sv2 I just want to know how its bass is (particularly when playing rhodes), again, a nice deep sub sound when playing down low Also , looking for a nice home use and maybe recording. Hence I also tend to like the fact the Korg has a speaker featured version..
I think I'd go for the SV. I love the look, speakers, EP's and strings are surprisingly good. Altho the piano sounds on the CP are arguably a touch more sophisticated.
Stuck between the 3 (probably more like 2 - Nord is nice but can't see myself spending the extra $ with these other 2) The lack of a selection screen on the SV2 scares me a bit - anybody have experience with it and can ease my nerves?
Hi Eric. The lack of a screen on the SV-2 is a fundamental part of the design to add to the vintage vibe. There are dedicated knobs and buttons for basically everything so there's still a lot of visual feedback. And for getting everything setup there's always the software editor.
Recently purchased and sent my CP88 back. There was very noticeable keybed noise on every note while playing all piano samplings (even though the piano sounds were excellent). And the Ab above the octave plinked in stead of resonating. Musicians Friend took it back right away but, all in all a bad experience. Yamaha's has developed a slap together factory mentality and to save money really low balled the Keybed. Cheap aluminum frame as well. There are many great features on it but the above mentioned issue's were a deal breaker.
Yamaha has a very modern sound and always very bright tone. Sounds always very, very digital. Not a fan of that. On a live situation Yamahas new synths are probably the worst choice if you are playing in a rock or metal band: presets sucks monkey balls and because of the common sound structure, the sound/synthesis structure itself is too digital and "tight", that you have to struggle with the EQ all the time. It does NOT fit into the mix easily and if you are dealing with loud decibels. Nord has a red color. It is a horrible color to look ALL THE DAY and on a tour the lightning crew always hate it because the red shining color creates light distortions easily. Never thought about that? The Nord sound is very common too, so i quess it is ok if you are playing in a basic coverband or in a TV show but it does not create "wow" feeling anymore. Very basic tone and the red color....horrible. They are heavily overpriced too and at the moment there are so many new and used Nords n the market that they are starting to lose their value. There are too many Nords and now it is starting to punch back, you'll see. Nord got too greedy. Korg is the winner here: best sound, tube effect, the looks and you can always get good money out of it if you decide to sell it. Viscount Legend 70's is a really good model too but very pricy. Crumar Seven? Very good sound too but the common reliability of GSI products? Well, use Google, find answers and then decide. To me, Korg is the winner here. Easily.
6:36 these string patches sound so fake when playing a typical piano arrangement. I’ll just never get used to how terrible the way too fast decays sound 😢
@@imandan1966 Nord is better than SV-2 - agree with this. But not better than VOX Continental in the electromechanical department, because SV-2 is not top of the line in EP and Organs. Add here NuTube is worth adding to this - and the timbres of electromechanical instruments sounds .... well, you know what I mean)
.............................................................................. @2:00m ""So, I'm not going to give you an opinion there." -Oh c'mon, nobody asked for your opinion [on keybeds]! The title to this video says "Comparison". Most points of comparison aren't opinions anyway. How about comparing keybeds objectively? Without stating, "I like this one better" or "Cindy likes that one better" you can simply state which has the lightest/heaviest action, which has quickest/slowest springback, depth of travel, which has/have graded keys, et cetera. C'mon, you can do it. Yes you can! ;D
everyone is fooled by the singing of the sirens of the Scandinavian seas, the sirens of the red keyboard, and they always strive to detract from Korg ... for me, Korg is the best in his sound even aesthetically ... the Yamaha is horrible in its aesthetics and sound ... and the Nord serves to rest a good glass of whiskey on it, but the Korg has won.
I'm laying in bed waiting for FedEx and my sv 2 88. Got great deal will believe it when i see it. Too good of a deal from small Company dealer . No other companies even have one available
Nord is Butt Ugly and a clunky interface,Yamaha is a really good looking keyboard but sounds a bit digital and bright,Korg SV2 is crazy sexy very nostalgic in appearance and sounds lush....Korg SV2 for me
SV2 sounds nice, but the problem stopping me buy it is its rubbish bottom panel material that normally nobody shows in their video. It is something just like vintage cardboard (probably that's why they want to use this crap material, but then, who will watch a stage piano from the bottom other than me? But if you are getting along with a beautiful girl, you would sure like that every part of her would suit your taste, you know what I mean?) Hate it. It ruins a beautiful nice looking instrument. Nord is definitely my go-to among the three.
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What I really want is the Nord Grand engine, coupled to the Kawai MP11se keybed, wrapped in the Korg SV2 body work...heavenly!
34kg???!!! no sorry
sounds a bit like the nord grand
It’s called the Nord Grand…
There is nothing called the «Nord Grand Engine» (It’s called the «Nord Piano Library»,and that could be what you actually ment)Both the Nord Electro, Nord Stage and the Nord Grand share the same Nord Piano Samples and all will give you the exact same sound…
@@samnixon6198 I’m well aware.
I have been playing a used KORG SV1 73 that's on consignment at the local record shop, and it's great. The SV2 looks and sounds even better. I think it's the one for me. Saving my pennies!
Nice and cosy music you play while presenting the devices. The Korg retro design is immense!
I just ordered the Korg SV 2S - can’t wait 😁
songbird857 where did you order it, I’m in Germany and want one SV 2S
Shitty corona
This is epic NimaGee I am in the US, so I don’t know where you can order it.... check Kong’s website 😊
@@nimanma9484 schaue nach einem Schweizer Händler.
musik-produktiv.ch
Nicely done video. Thanks! I really like the sound of all three of those instruments. They're each appealing to me in other ways, too. I like the color coding on the CP panel, the overall versatility of the Nord, and the feel of the keybed on the Korg. I'm not a gigging keyboardist, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the user interfaces on stage pianos. Though the panels may look complicated at first, they tend to be logical and fairly intuitive. I personally enjoy having immediate access to the most often-used controls. The built-in speakers on (one of the versions of) the Korg, make it especially appealing to me.
Very good video on three of the most popular ones atm. Atleast in their class. I think Korg has outdone themselves on this one. It's one of those instruments that is gonna be sought after long after it goes out of production. I changed the pedal. That was about it.
The SV2 with that valve distortion is pretty funky...sounds damn good.
Korg SV-2 sounds so good! Once again, Korg proving that the most expensive is not always the best!
What did you get? I'm having same problem lol
Korg full sound ! Sv2 is the winner for me.
Yamaha is easy to carry and lightweight. It still has the best pianos like bosendorfer that is sensational, CFX and Nashville. EPs are incredible, I don't need anything else.
where were each of these products manufactured?
I love the look and sound of all 3 of these. Unfortunately, in my area the only shops I can think of that carry instruments like these are big chain stores, and it's hit and miss what they'll have on display. I'm really curious how the action compares. I play a lot of instruments, but for a stage piano it would be nice if it felt as realistic as possible. One special advantage the Korg has for me is the 73-key option. It has the same action as the 88-key and that makes it one of the only hammer-action stage pianos that *might* fit in the passenger seat of my 2-seater (it has a large trunk for its size, so I can fit a folding table stand and other gear there).
Anyone try these pianos out in person? As of this post, the only one I've tried is the Nord. It felt absolutely fantastic to me.
... apparently there is a CP-73 also. Different action but still a hammer action. Mmmmmmm
As for the E.Piano, it's Rhodes, Wurli...- On VOX Continental the best E.Pianos from KORG (together with VOX). And only in VOX so far, nowhere else have I seen such chic E.Pianos from KORG. Therefore, the SV-2 is not the top-of-the-line in E.Pianos from KORG, I generally keep quiet about the ORGAN engine. And I want to say that I appreciate it higher than NORD, not only due to timbre and subtle nuances but also due to dynamic range. NuTube is worth adding to this - and the timbres of electromechanical instruments sound .... well, you know what I mean. Why is VOX Continental so in the shadows...
Appreciate this video. I was a long time lover of the SV-1, but if the SV-2 is similar with a different sound bank that's actually pretty unappealing to me. I was hesitant purchasing the SV-1 due to latency in the keys - felt like they were weighing down my playing in their response. The CP-40 was an amazing keyboard and tried to do the same as Nord - but I'm glad Yamaha went a different route with the CP-88. The keybed is a much loved feel, the sounds are great and still similar to the CP-40 where you can change the sounds however you like (but reset them much easier). The Nord is a tricky one - I think a lot of people get high off of the "endless bank of sounds". Not many people I know use their Nord for all the sounds - mostly just stick to a solid few because they like the key touch and the organ/rhodes sounds (which are awesome). Usually Nord players typically are multi-keyboard players anyway. Just my take. It's a fun piece and the sounds are really great (like the Mac of keyboards lol), but scrolling through an infinite bank on that screen is a pain in the ass which is why people don't typically use them all even if its their main board.
helpful!
Awesome video, straight to the point. Personally I would get CP but for home use, SV2s speakers are much welcome asset. I don’t like the fact that you have to use computer with SV2 to get sounds that are not accessible through the front panel
wiencheck But you can assign those sounds to the 64 favourite locations and recall them without a computer.
@@IAmTheSwordmaster1 Thanks for that - just ordered SV2S 88 so I'm hoping I can save splits to favourites. I think you can!
Andrew Hincks Great choice! :-) And yes, you can! ;-)
That is the one thing putting me off it too. Pain in the arse!
What makes you decide the Yamaha is best for home use? Assuming it's amped to a non expensive amp (9r studio monitors?) vs Korg sv2 speaker version, no amp or monitors, stock in built speakers
I gotta say on my speakers at least the CP sounded the best. That Rhodes sounds incredible
I just sent back my second SV-2S (with speakers) as the tube resonated with the speakers on certain mid-register keys - which made an audible buzz, very much worse on the second one on which it was more of a rattle. The first one also had a serious speaker resonance problem. I also experienced problems with the so-called seamless preset change. Which doesn't work particularly well with layered sounds. So I am not taking any more chances with a third SV-2S. I am currently looking in the direction of the CP-88 because of its hands-on layering properties and the fact that it has its own audio interface, so you can run soft synths etc. through the piano to the out channels :)
What did you end up with, Michele?
@@geggytar the cp-88 - wooden keys, very nice :) I also like the sectioned layers although I primarily use the pianosection alone. Not optimal for classical but I make it work. It also works well as a midi keyboard and has the audio interface. So loads of hands-on tweaking possibilities and it has the extra input channel which I've tried with a microphone through a multieffect box - works well. Fun to play with but a bit of an over-kill for home use, however, the keybed made the difference for me.
SV2S or CP88. Still can’t decide. Love the look & built in speakers of the SV2. But the CP88 seems like it’d have higher quality sounds & keybed feel.
Don’t forget the Yamaha YC-88, gives you most of what the CP-88 has, but with organ and synth sounds.
I've owned a Nord Electro 5D HP. Sold it because the action became very noisy and not enjoyable to play. The acoustic piano sound was amazing though and really cutting through the mix in any context. Anyone knows if the KORG SV II has the same presence on stage in a band
Korg sounds awesome 👌🏽
cp300 or sv2 88s?
Ha, ha! I think it's the first time I've seen this old video. It's nicely presented (great voice) but a bit thin on data.
It would have been good to mention which ones have seemless program changes, meaning switching between sounds while playing without any dropouts. And do any provide morphing on splits?
While the presenter is right not to give overtly subjective opinions on the actions, he could mention that the RH3 action on the Korg is heavier than on most other stage pianos (which I like, but some people don't) plus mention any texturing and the wood keys on the CP-88.
The Korg SV2-73 (without speakers) is currently a bit cheaper than the Yamaha CP-73, at least where I buy. I'm guessing it's a similar story with the 88s. It's worth noting that the Korg SV2-73 is the only 73-key stage piano with a graded weighted action. 88s tend to have graded actions of course.
Kawai MP7SE?
I've got a question , if I'm looking for an authentic Rhodes , with some nice sub bass in its sound , who offers it? I really want the sv2 I just want to know how its bass is (particularly when playing rhodes), again, a nice deep sub sound when playing down low
Also , looking for a nice home use and maybe recording.
Hence I also tend to like the fact the Korg has a speaker featured version..
Viscount legend 70's
If you have to choose a keyboard, would you choose korg sv2s or cp88?
I think I'd go for the SV. I love the look, speakers, EP's and strings are surprisingly good. Altho the piano sounds on the CP are arguably a touch more sophisticated.
Stuck between the 3 (probably more like 2 - Nord is nice but can't see myself spending the extra $ with these other 2)
The lack of a selection screen on the SV2 scares me a bit - anybody have experience with it and can ease my nerves?
Hi Eric. The lack of a screen on the SV-2 is a fundamental part of the design to add to the vintage vibe. There are dedicated knobs and buttons for basically everything so there's still a lot of visual feedback. And for getting everything setup there's always the software editor.
What is the tune from 5:14?
Paweł Billy Joel - Just the way you are
@@jasonpsam thanks!
Recently purchased and sent my CP88 back. There was very noticeable keybed noise on every note while playing all piano samplings (even though the piano sounds were excellent). And the Ab above the octave plinked in stead of resonating. Musicians Friend took it back right away but, all in all a bad experience. Yamaha's has developed a slap together factory mentality and to save money really low balled the Keybed. Cheap aluminum frame as well. There are many great features on it but the above mentioned issue's were a deal breaker.
Why do you post this comment on every CP88 video I have seen? Copy and paste on every CP88 video you can find?
Yamaha has a very modern sound and always very bright tone. Sounds always very, very digital. Not a fan of that. On a live situation Yamahas new synths are probably the worst choice if you are playing in a rock or metal band: presets sucks monkey balls and because of the common sound structure, the sound/synthesis structure itself is too digital and "tight", that you have to struggle with the EQ all the time. It does NOT fit into the mix easily and if you are dealing with loud decibels. Nord has a red color. It is a horrible color to look ALL THE DAY and on a tour the lightning crew always hate it because the red shining color creates light distortions easily. Never thought about that? The Nord sound is very common too, so i quess it is ok if you are playing in a basic coverband or in a TV show but it does not create "wow" feeling anymore. Very basic tone and the red color....horrible. They are heavily overpriced too and at the moment there are so many new and used Nords n the market that they are starting to lose their value. There are too many Nords and now it is starting to punch back, you'll see. Nord got too greedy. Korg is the winner here: best sound, tube effect, the looks and you can always get good money out of it if you decide to sell it. Viscount Legend 70's is a really good model too but very pricy. Crumar Seven? Very good sound too but the common reliability of GSI products? Well, use Google, find answers and then decide. To me, Korg is the winner here. Easily.
6:36 these string patches sound so fake when playing a typical piano arrangement. I’ll just never get used to how terrible the way too fast decays sound 😢
CP here
Korg is the best!
3:37 Korg
6:06 Conclusion
Korg still better.
Nord better board. Tarzan like Jane
@@imandan1966 Nord is better than SV-2 - agree with this. But not better than VOX Continental in the electromechanical department, because SV-2 is not top of the line in EP and Organs. Add here NuTube is worth adding to this - and the timbres of electromechanical instruments sounds .... well, you know what I mean)
Is it me or do Yamahas get worse and worse sounding over the years? KORG SV-2 sounds the best to me.. Sounds real
Yes we agree
@@Noisegate Thanks so much for your content!
@@edfritz1569 Cheers
.............................................................................. @2:00m ""So, I'm not going to give you an opinion there." -Oh c'mon, nobody asked for your opinion [on keybeds]! The title to this video says "Comparison". Most points of comparison aren't opinions anyway. How about comparing keybeds objectively? Without stating, "I like this one better" or "Cindy likes that one better" you can simply state which has the lightest/heaviest action, which has quickest/slowest springback, depth of travel, which has/have graded keys, et cetera. C'mon, you can do it. Yes you can! ;D
i love it! CP
everyone is fooled by the singing of the sirens of the Scandinavian seas, the sirens of the red keyboard, and they always strive to detract from Korg ... for me, Korg is the best in his sound even aesthetically ... the Yamaha is horrible in its aesthetics and sound ... and the Nord serves to rest a good glass of whiskey on it, but the Korg has won.
They all sound good. I like the Korg but it's still missing some essential features for me.
I'm laying in bed waiting for FedEx and my sv 2 88. Got great deal will believe it when i see it. Too good of a deal from small
Company dealer . No other companies even have one available
Got it today only paid 1640 no tax no shipping
How is it?
Michael, would you mind telling me where you ordered it? Can't find em anywhere, been waiting over a month. Maybe your co still has one available?
@@schazers1 pro audio star and they they had 18 per cent off every thing in store for little over 1600
nord for me
Yamaha cp88
Nord is Butt Ugly and a clunky interface,Yamaha is a really good looking keyboard but sounds a bit digital and bright,Korg SV2 is crazy sexy very nostalgic in appearance and sounds lush....Korg SV2 for me
SV2 sounds nice, but the problem stopping me buy it is its rubbish bottom panel material that normally nobody shows in their video. It is something just like vintage cardboard (probably that's why they want to use this crap material, but then, who will watch a stage piano from the bottom other than me? But if you are getting along with a beautiful girl, you would sure like that every part of her would suit your taste, you know what I mean?) Hate it. It ruins a beautiful nice looking instrument. Nord is definitely my go-to among the three.
Nord...only
The Korg loses on build for me. It has a particle board bottom. The Yamaha's action is too heavy. The Nord's key's are too slick.
Aakash you're too fussy...
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