Fascinating but very grim story of Mr Al Sane, what an awful end. I wonder if is killers came from Kuwait did their dirty deed and flew back again because there was no evidence whatsoever about who might have killed him. Thank you for another very well narrated story.
We wondered if it was a hit job, and as you say, once he was murdered, the culprits fled the UK and back to possibly Kuwait? Off camera, we both came up with tons of questions and theories.
hello chris and vicky wellcome back to our screens well this is a mystery and from a long time ago thank you for the great filming nice to see so much from the back streets cheers from trev and christine down south xx
Great work Chris and Vickie.. Something about this case just doesnt add up. A brutal murder like this would be plastered everywhere, and a nationwide hunt put in place. Seems like what investigation did take place, had taken place quietly. I agree that it must have had something to do with money. Criminals dont go to these lengths on a whim do they. Touching on what you said about history, and people of today being oblivious to what may have taken place where they are now standing. The same thing fascinates me Chris, and like you, i cant explain why. I'm not sure if it's a sense of time being transient, but the past remaining... which in itself is a contradiction. Its a little like detecting an ancient find... knowing it was lost by someone several hundreds of years ago... and nobody knew it was there, until you discover it and hold it. Knowing the last time it was held was probably by the person who lost it. Suddenly the past is dragged into the present. Its all very fascinating. Great work as always mate 👍
I have recently found a lump of clay which is highly likely to be roman, it will be checked by museum curator this week,and its covered in fingerprints! I have other treasures but that's the best so far for the same reasons you just stated.And yes it's the same reasons I love these stories.
Thanks for another great video Chris & Vickie I’m like you I do enjoy walking around locations knowing that there may have or was a connection with the dark past Is it just morbid fascination or a genuine curiosity for history & social history As for the murder covered. So many unanswered questions He was a businessman so money was more than likely involved Usually when bodies are dismembered it’s to hide the victims identity Outside influences so whoever the murderers where could have left the country almost immediately leaving the crime unsolved
I like any video you guys make..so interesting...again one of my favourite channels..thanks for doing all the reasearch to bring us these great videos..can't wait for the upcoming stories.
I'm glad you enjoyed it ☺️ It's a sick world we live in, and it still baffles me that a human being can inflict so much pain and torture onto another human and I always wonder if these people carry on with their lives like nothing has happened? The killer or killers, do they just carry on with their daily routines and never give a second thought to what they did?
@@DaysofHorror yes same here. One of the reasons why I've always been fascinated by these stories. What makes certain people step over the line? It's unimaginable.
I agree. Money does seem an obvious motive, with him being very wealthy and more than likely having links to some, let's say 'dodgy' characters! I wonder if he owed a lot of money or maybe he had some information on someone or some people which would have uncovered something dodgy?
As I'm catching up on all your vids, and as your in Manchester. Just asking if you've covered the murder of blacksmith Reuben Mort from Little Lever Gt Manchester. Strange and unsolved. Another story handed down by grandparents. Really enjoying your channel.
Hi Cassandra. Many thanks for the kind words and support. Reuben Mort is a story we have only come across on e before, but we never looked into it fully. It's an interesting one and I think one that we can easily cover. The events took place not too far from where we live, so getting there would be easy. We will see what we can dig up in the old newspaper archives.
I’m from Manchester and I worked in the centre of Manchester at the time and remember this murder very well for some strange reason and they found the body under the square bridge and I’m sure his body was found in a oil barrel were it was found smouldering
In an oil barrel? That makes it all the more disturbing (if that's even possible!). Thanks for mentioning it, though, as information is a little limited. All the old newspaper articles repeat the same thing, so this was a more difficult one to cover.
Definitely money related,but the silence around it may mean a political silence, maybe he had powerful exfriends in Kuwait or in banking etc. The criminal knew about his financial details,stocks,etc. So that's someone he trusted,but to be tortured,not trusted enough to know a location etc.of where his files were,so he was tortured for details,but was he kept alive until the murderer had what they wanted? And was there more than one culprit because the body wouldn't have been easy to move. Interesting one guys, thank you❤
Great work guys I am one of those morbid people that love to visit grave yards and see a stone i one found one where a hole family died in one week discovered it was dew to TB sad I don't find us people as budding vampires or anything else like that but as people who care we want the world to learn the lessons that to murder for earthly gain poisoning your rich aunt for early inheritance or kill a man to steal a horse or get revenge is not worth it in my experience if someone do you wrong they will eventually destroy themselves with out your help easy gains easily lost with all the big tombs of the very rich we seen and in a very short period of time how fast they become neglected and fall apart and no one to look side ways at them As here in the west of Ireland we take a body home have a wake have mass at church and burial with in 3 to 5 days as one English undertaker said to me when describing our traditions paddy you don't let a dead man stay warm in his bed for long No if no one looks into it or cares what have we got all those dead people were once babies in some mothers arms they were loved they had babies themselves and loved they worked hard to feed and clothe the ones they loved fought and died for us all built our churches museums bridges roads schools our house took care of our past relations in hospitals some of those young people murdered could have become great but never got the chance or maybe we can sit down with the ones we love ❤️ for a cuppa and a chin wage and watch one another grow but others never got that chance easy to say stop talking that morbid stuff you get me down I don't like that tell that to the people that suffered due to violent loss it feels we are putting our arm around the parents of victims of violence saying we cannot change things but we can for the feature that no one else will go through what you are going through As a catholic we were always told it is good to remember our dead and pray for them and not be selfish I am all right jack how are you attitude God Bless
Very interesting. I think he gambled away all his money, borrowed more believing he would win it back like all gamblers and then couldn't pay the person he borrowed off so was made an example of.
It does make you wonder who path he crossed and why he was brutally murdered. I believe it was money related, possibly drugs. But it also amazes me that in this day and age, it's still unsolved.
Fascinating story I haven't heard about it, but I do think money was involved what a horrible end for this man! thank you Chris and Vickie well done 👏👏👏👏❤❤
Thanks for another interesting video Chris and Vicky. Such a pity that the perpetrator or perpetrators were never caught. It's obvious that they took the law in their own hands. I agree with you both that this was probably a money motivated killing. Just sad that Justice was never done. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
People from Kuwait have Sharia law, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. He must have upset someone. He would have been expecting a death like that.
If you remove all clothing, you can again obfuscate any investigation, wealthy men in particular often wear tailored clothing that is traceable. Just a thought.
I vaguely remember this story at the time, it is hard to think really what happened whoever he got involved with they turned nasty. It was hard also to find out anything about this man as he was from Kuwait and here on business no one it seems ever came forward about him.
Here's one for you The Yuba County 5 They went missing under extremely suspicious circumstances back in 1978 over in America There are literally thousands of stories on this I've been studying it for nearly 3 years now If you do get any spare time have a look at it I promise you it'll totally spin your heads from David in Cromer ❓
Best story in a long time but this one is true at the end of a burial service the priest said in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit A young boy picked it up as in the name of the Father and of the Son and down the hole he goes
I am sure there were an awful lot of investigations out of the public eye by MI6 and Scotland Yard. The investigators would be very tricky situation involving the relationship between UK and Kuwait. It could have involved the transfer of criminals between countries. I dont know if UK has an extradition treaty with Kuwait. The case might have been high profile enough to involve very important high officials and in that case it would have been very sensitively handled. The missing files could have been used as a form of blackmail. I think we need inspector Clauseau to investigate this case. 😂 Living in a colonial country where my ancestors have lived for at least 400 years is at times especially now challenging. The indigenous people regard you as a foreigner even though you have been born and raised in the country and are by default a native citizen of the country. This unfair narrative brings about an identity crisis. Who am I really? why is my culture different to and spurned by the indigenous people? Because I am a history nut I have taken the opportunity which internet media has afforded me to not only trace my family tree but to investigate the historical events which affected their lives and the culture they lived in. In doing so I have learned some surprising thing's which definitely clear up the matter of my families identity and culture. I heard on a video just yesterday that the home where you were born in and were raised up in will haunt you for your whole life. Indeed they were right. Often in my minds eye I will go for a walk in the neighbourhood and through the rooms of the houses and a walk in the garden and even memory of my pets. I think we long for the uncomplicated innocent days of our childhood which we enjoyed before tackling the responsibility which we shoulder as adults. A time where fantasy and reality merge into one. Not a care in the world. Of course I was privileged enough to have a stable well structured family background. To understand the multiple layers of history in just one area of a country is fascinating. Just think how a pretty chocolate box village can turn into an ugly factory waste land along with its overcrowded tenement districts for the workers. Then the same area gets gutted and replaced with parks and playgrounds. What next, who knows? To me this is more interesting, intriguing and exciting than a block buster movie. Thanks for yet another interesting video.
Fascinating but very grim story of Mr Al Sane, what an awful end. I wonder if is killers came from Kuwait did their dirty deed and flew back again because there was no evidence whatsoever about who might have killed him. Thank you for another very well narrated story.
We wondered if it was a hit job, and as you say, once he was murdered, the culprits fled the UK and back to possibly Kuwait? Off camera, we both came up with tons of questions and theories.
Thanks guys me and my mum really enjoyed watching your new video tonight😊 keep up with the good work can't wait to see more xx❤🤗
I'm quite new to your channel & find you both very natural in front of camera & very interesting. Thank You.
Cheers, Tony. I still find it difficult to talk in front of a camera. Once I begin, it's not too bad, but it's just the starting I hate 😅
hello chris and vicky wellcome back to our screens well this is a mystery and from a long time ago thank you for the great filming nice to see so much from the back streets cheers from trev and christine down south xx
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching, hope you are both well from Vickie & Chris
Great work Chris and Vickie.. Something about this case just doesnt add up.
A brutal murder like this would be plastered everywhere, and a nationwide hunt put in place. Seems like what investigation did take place, had taken place quietly.
I agree that it must have had something to do with money. Criminals dont go to these lengths on a whim do they.
Touching on what you said about history, and people of today being oblivious to what may have taken place where they are now standing. The same thing fascinates me Chris, and like you, i cant explain why.
I'm not sure if it's a sense of time being transient, but the past remaining... which in itself is a contradiction.
Its a little like detecting an ancient find... knowing it was lost by someone several hundreds of years ago... and nobody knew it was there, until you discover it and hold it. Knowing the last time it was held was probably by the person who lost it. Suddenly the past is dragged into the present. Its all very fascinating. Great work as always mate 👍
But if it was Sharia law, coming from Kuwait, it would have been a just punishment to them. Nothing too extreme for them. Sadly.
I have recently found a lump of clay which is highly likely to be roman, it will be checked by museum curator this week,and its covered in fingerprints! I have other treasures but that's the best so far for the same reasons you just stated.And yes it's the same reasons I love these stories.
@@PaulaSmith-vg9ez it's mind blowing isn't it Paula
Hi. I enjoy watching and learning from you.. Thank you ❤
Thanks Brenda 👍
Thank you for another interesting video. It’s a shame these horrible deeds go unsolved.
Thank you for another great episode 😁
Thanks for another great video Chris & Vickie
I’m like you I do enjoy walking around locations knowing that there may have or was a connection with the dark past
Is it just morbid fascination or a genuine curiosity for history & social history
As for the murder covered.
So many unanswered questions
He was a businessman so money was more than likely involved
Usually when bodies are dismembered it’s to hide the victims identity
Outside influences so whoever the murderers where could have left the country almost immediately leaving the crime unsolved
I know... yes we love exploring new locations. Have a great weekend Luna from Vickie & Chris
I like any video you guys make..so interesting...again one of my favourite channels..thanks for doing all the reasearch to bring us these great videos..can't wait for the upcoming stories.
Thank you very much Susan, from Vickie & Chris 😀
Fascinating story. Not heard of that one 😮 thanks for your hard work and the brilliant videos ❤
I'm glad you enjoyed it ☺️ It's a sick world we live in, and it still baffles me that a human being can inflict so much pain and torture onto another human and I always wonder if these people carry on with their lives like nothing has happened? The killer or killers, do they just carry on with their daily routines and never give a second thought to what they did?
@@DaysofHorror yes same here. One of the reasons why I've always been fascinated by these stories. What makes certain people step over the line? It's unimaginable.
Good work ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️❤️
Thanks Andrea From Vickie & Chris 😀
Yes, looks like he was killed over money.
I agree. Money does seem an obvious motive, with him being very wealthy and more than likely having links to some, let's say 'dodgy' characters! I wonder if he owed a lot of money or maybe he had some information on someone or some people which would have uncovered something dodgy?
As I'm catching up on all your vids, and as your in Manchester.
Just asking if you've covered the murder of blacksmith Reuben Mort from Little Lever Gt Manchester.
Strange and unsolved.
Another story handed down by grandparents.
Really enjoying your channel.
Hi Cassandra. Many thanks for the kind words and support. Reuben Mort is a story we have only come across on e before, but we never looked into it fully. It's an interesting one and I think one that we can easily cover. The events took place not too far from where we live, so getting there would be easy. We will see what we can dig up in the old newspaper archives.
I’m from Manchester and I worked in the centre of Manchester at the time and remember this murder very well for some strange reason and they found the body under the square bridge and I’m sure his body was found in a oil barrel were it was found smouldering
In an oil barrel? That makes it all the more disturbing (if that's even possible!). Thanks for mentioning it, though, as information is a little limited. All the old newspaper articles repeat the same thing, so this was a more difficult one to cover.
@@DaysofHorror yeh oil barrel 🛢️ maybe a statement of some kind but I have my opinions on how and who did it
This looks good but horrific at the same time! X
Very interesting. Thanks so much.
Definitely money related,but the silence around it may mean a political silence, maybe he had powerful exfriends in Kuwait or in banking etc. The criminal knew about his financial details,stocks,etc. So that's someone he trusted,but to be tortured,not trusted enough to know a location etc.of where his files were,so he was tortured for details,but was he kept alive until the murderer had what they wanted? And was there more than one culprit because the body wouldn't have been easy to move. Interesting one guys, thank you❤
If it was some sort of “execution” perhaps the head was taken as proof of death to some other important “businessman”!
Brilliant. Thank you.
Great work guys
I am one of those morbid people that love to visit grave yards and see a stone i one found one where a hole family died in one week discovered it was dew to TB sad
I don't find us people as budding vampires or anything else like that
but as people who care we want the world to learn the lessons that to murder for earthly gain poisoning your rich aunt for early inheritance or kill a man to steal a horse or get revenge is not worth it
in my experience if someone do you wrong they will eventually destroy themselves with out your help easy gains easily lost
with all the big tombs of the very rich we seen and in a very short period of time how fast they become neglected and fall apart and no one to look side ways at them
As here in the west of Ireland we take a body home have a wake have mass at church and burial with in 3 to 5 days as one English undertaker said to me when describing our traditions
paddy you don't let a dead man stay warm in his bed for long
No if no one looks into it or cares what have we got all those dead people were once babies in some mothers arms they were loved they had babies themselves and loved they worked hard to feed and clothe the ones they loved fought and died for us all
built our churches museums bridges roads schools our house took care of our past relations in hospitals some of those young people murdered could have become great but never got the chance or maybe we can sit down with the ones we love ❤️ for a cuppa and a chin wage and watch one another grow but others never got that chance easy to say stop talking that morbid stuff you get me down I don't like that
tell that to the people that suffered due to violent loss
it feels we are putting our arm around the parents of victims of violence saying we cannot change things but we can for the feature that no one else will go through what you are going through
As a catholic we were always told it is good to remember our dead and pray for them and not be selfish I am all right jack how are you attitude
God Bless
Very interesting. I think he gambled away all his money, borrowed more believing he would win it back like all gamblers and then couldn't pay the person he borrowed off so was made an example of.
It does make you wonder who path he crossed and why he was brutally murdered. I believe it was money related, possibly drugs. But it also amazes me that in this day and age, it's still unsolved.
Fascinating story I haven't heard about it, but I do think money was involved what a horrible end for this man! thank you Chris and Vickie well done 👏👏👏👏❤❤
Thanks for watching and commenting Jules. Have a great week from Vickie & Chris 😀
Sounds like the HORRIFIC Murder of the late Mr.Kashoggi..
Thanks for another interesting video Chris and Vicky. Such a pity that the perpetrator or perpetrators were never caught. It's obvious that they took the law in their own hands. I agree with you both that this was probably a money motivated killing. Just sad that Justice was never done. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thanks Shirley 👍
Thank you, intresting
Thanks Wendy 😊
People from Kuwait have Sharia law, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. He must have upset someone.
He would have been expecting a death like that.
Hi, I am gonna say it was money. I do enjoy your channel ❤🌹
Many thanks, Brenda. Yep, money related. I would also suspect he was into dodgy dealings with the wrong type of criminals.
If you remove all clothing, you can again obfuscate any investigation, wealthy men in particular often wear tailored clothing that is traceable. Just a thought.
Very good point Adrienne, thanks for that from Vickie & Chris 👍
Could also have been a humiliation thing, especially if those who commited the deed weren't fanacially well off.
And I would expect any less.
Guys
I vaguely remember this story at the time, it is hard to think really what happened whoever he got involved with they turned nasty. It was hard also to find out anything about this man as he was from Kuwait and here on business no one it seems ever came forward about him.
No was a real shame our leads on this came to a dead end, with no mention of family either. Thanks for watching
Never heard but rest in peace Adnab awful tragedy also never heard of the Manchester ripper
Thanks for watching and commenting from Vickie & Chris
Here's one for you The Yuba County 5 They went missing under extremely suspicious circumstances back in 1978 over in America There are literally thousands of stories on this I've been studying it for nearly 3 years now If you do get any spare time have a look at it I promise you it'll totally spin your heads from David in Cromer ❓
Hi there guys you do a job on video work guys
Many thanks, David. Hope you are doing well 😀 We've an absolute mountain of stories to share
Best story in a long time but this one is true
at the end of a burial service the priest said in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit
A young boy picked it up as in the name of the Father and of the Son and down the hole he goes
I am sure there were an awful lot of investigations out of the public eye by MI6 and Scotland Yard. The investigators would be very tricky situation involving the relationship between UK and Kuwait. It could have involved the transfer of criminals between countries. I dont know if UK has an extradition treaty with Kuwait. The case might have been high profile enough to involve very important high officials and in that case it would have been very sensitively handled. The missing files could have been used as a form of blackmail.
I think we need inspector Clauseau to investigate this case. 😂
Living in a colonial country where my ancestors have lived for at least 400 years is at times especially now challenging. The indigenous people regard you as a foreigner even though you have been born and raised in the country and are by default a native citizen of the country. This unfair narrative brings about an identity crisis. Who am I really? why is my culture different to and spurned by the indigenous people?
Because I am a history nut I have taken the opportunity which internet media has afforded me to not only trace my family tree but to investigate the historical events which affected their lives and the culture they lived in. In doing so I have learned some surprising thing's which definitely clear up the matter of my families identity and culture.
I heard on a video just yesterday that the home where you were born in and were raised up in will haunt you for your whole life. Indeed they were right. Often in my minds eye I will go for a walk in the neighbourhood and through the rooms of the houses and a walk in the garden and even memory of my pets. I think we long for the uncomplicated innocent days of our childhood which we enjoyed before tackling the responsibility which we shoulder as adults. A time where fantasy and reality merge into one. Not a care in the world. Of course I was privileged enough to have a stable well structured family background.
To understand the multiple layers of history in just one area of a country is fascinating. Just think how a pretty chocolate box village can turn into an ugly factory waste land along with its overcrowded tenement districts for the workers. Then the same area gets gutted and replaced with parks and playgrounds. What next, who knows?
To me this is more interesting, intriguing and exciting than a block buster movie.
Thanks for yet another interesting video.
That's for this indepth comment. Really good read. Thanks From vickie & chris
Hit job I reckon from abroad.