You didn't play his entire speech. He said, 'This won't have been possible without AI'. So technically he isn't lying. Interesting thing to look at is what significant improvements DLSS 4 would bring over its precursor.
You are right veere, and I do love the advancements Nvidia is making in ai tech and software optimization. The point of this video was to focus on hardware that's all. I am hoping amd can take a much needed leap when it comes to AI tech and optimization!
@@StriderGuy I’m not a fan of nVIDIA either. But I appreciate the iGPU technology that AMD is good at. I prefer energy efficient computing and iGPUs are future of energy efficient computing. After all how many goes to 4080 or above? A majority (>70%) of gamers would use a RTX 3060 for gaming. If AMD could come up with an IGPU which could deliver 60 fps 1080p gaming that can be compared with an RTX 3060/4060 level of computation then AMD would dominate gaming market. Especially in Indian market.
loved your point on generated frames! Frame Generation ko consider hi nahi karna chahiye na, raster performance me mar jayega 5070 4090 ke samne, plus logon ko input lag se matlab bhi nahi bas numbers chahiye! kuch to 30FPS ke andar bhi frame gen lagake chalate hain.. lekin kyahi kahne :)
I just recently subbed you. You seem to be the only Indian with very nice tech knowledge, and talks about tech openly instead of creating only entertaining content as other RUclipsrs. You aren't sponsored, so that might be why.
@@Keisuke429 abe ghanta. Criticism bilkul nahi deta. Sirf achi bate karta hai. Maybe due to sponsorship. Aur wo itna deep me nahi jata just to focus on entertainment.
@TuxikCE:- bhai kya criticise kroge tum nvidia ko? Charge toh woh krenge hi unhone khudse cuda cores wali technology launch kri thi uss time pe jab koi sochta nhi tha innovation bhi toh dekho.and ai is very useful for me . Ofcourse not for many who just wants to play games but still dlss 4.0 will be very good until unless it has latency flaws . Which rtx 40 series does have.
@@EVOLKS.1205 I am not telling to directly criticize Nvidia. But still when reviewing tech, you should talk about everything and give the audience a full picture. For example Venom Tech on Intel 14th gen review gave no criticism and only had positivity where all other RUclipsrs were disappointed.
@TuxikCE :- yup but if they are sponsered then ofcourse they can't say anything and yes if you were also at his place you will also do the same . If we think rationally we have to know who is right and wrong. But yeah it's all what happens in this industry.
My response to a previous comment asking the same question: I get the notion veere but it really does, 240 fps through frame gen feels nowhere close to 240 native and another thing I would like to highlight is we gotta evaluate the raw performance with each new hardware update keeping the software aside. I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
Trust me Khadim, I am not a fanboy of any company! The only people I am a fan of are my subscribers :) Love my subs dil se and I will never knowingly feed them wrong info ever
Brother iam thinking of buying Acer predator Helios neo 16 rtx 4070 variant. its price is around 1 lakhs and 64 thousands and nvidia is claiming that. Rtx 5070 ti's price would be around 1 lakh 50-60 k so i dont know how real is it but why would they give us laptop that has 5070 ti on the same price as acer predator Helios Neo 16 that has rtx 4070 . Should i get acer predator Helios Neo 16 or wait for 5070 laptops to drop and when will they launch the 5070 laptops. and if nvidia is claiming prices of laptops us in there post . that prices would be same in india or its going to increase?
GPU manufacturers seem to be pushing AI-based solutions like DLSS to compensate for the increasingly poor optimization of modern games. The RTX 5090 with DLSS 4 may deliver jaw-dropping frame rates in single-player titles, but it could be a poor choice for competitive online gaming due to the increased latency introduced by AI upscaling. Other than that I barely see 3-5% of performance increase in terms of raw performance Affordability is another significant issue. In India, where GPUs are already expensive, 95% of gamers won’t be able to afford the 50-series. For those who can, if they are unsatisfied with the 50 series, they will anyhow have the option to get back to the 40 series.
I get the notion veere but it really does, 240 fps through frame gen feels nowhere close to 240 native and another thing I would like to highlight is we gotta evaluate the raw performance with each new hardware update keeping the software aside. I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
A lot of games will have dlss 4 and it will work great, I have faith on nvidia when it comes to the ai tech but the value proposition of these cards is what doesn't add up for me.
name mai blackwell sunke laga ki konsa h100 wala kissa hoga lekin abhi jo lagta hai ki ye log sirf algorithm mai hi khelenge btw looking forward to amd and specially intel gpus (yaar intel isbar solid budget wala diya tha....)
@@xycoV5@xycoV5 Oh really? Then why Nvidia show 20% better performance (cherry picked) 5070 vs 4070 (horrible gpu btw) without DLSS? Sorry but it looks like very bad product.
Idk why Nvidia , Intel, Amd are focusing more on dlss technology rather than giving more raw performance also Now it's the time where we had enough performance to play at good fps by giving more performances we can make it more beautiful but this extra frame tech makes the game less beautiful and also increases latency idk why someone would prefer to use dlss 4 on 5090.
They need to work in tandem on both and stop cutting corners in hardware by using software as justification. At this point 240 fps native differs drastically from 240 fps using frame gen and sticking to low vram for the 5070 was a move I can't help but question.
@StriderGuy 4060 can easily give 10-12% more if they just give 12gb vram. Same goes with 4070 series and now 5070 . then also people will blindly buy Nvidia. But also there is no option for people who are more into productivity tasks and casual gamers . Nvidia is now becoming monopoly in gpu. Amd is losing the gpu market. Hope Intel does something crazy
@@StriderGuyFor raw performance, the RTX 3090 is sufficient for now. However, if you're aiming for 4K at 240Hz, you'll need AI-assisted technologies. There are limitations to rasterization performance and how many transistors can be accommodated in current consumer-friendly hardware. You also need to consider pricing constraints. Achieving such performance purely through raw power isn't feasible at the moment, as we've essentially hit a wall in that regard.
@@thespectator3312 I have seen them spectator and I absolutely love nvidia when it comes to ai tech and productivity. Not hopping on any hate train veere, here is how I feel about the whole thing as I replied to a previous comment - I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
All of these cards are good cards. They lack in terms of value proposition though but if we want the robust Nvidia productivity performance and software optimisation then team green is our only choice and that is what allows them to sell even when the hardware is expensive then the other 2 parties. Let's see if things change when amd 8000 hits the market
Mere ko ye batao ke agar ye ai ka use kar ke extra frames generate kar bhi Raha hai to isme problem kya hai !!!??? Isi ko to technology kehte hai na bhayya !!! Bs wo game ko dlss 4 support karna chahiye jo ke bohot se games abhi nahi karte hai Shayad
@@hiteshbehera52293 saal ho gaye tere btc mining ko ab kaunsa btc mine hota hai be .. 3000 series mein hota tha uska rma card milta and jab 4000 series aai tab tak btc mining ⛏️ profitable he nai rhi
the fact that we indians consider gpu's as a hardware just for gaming makes me lagugh my a** off grow up kids gpu's are not made just for gaming purposes there is a huge world out the games focus on that evolve urself at the pace of evolving tech in the industry
The fact that some people don't realize that a gaming channel will have viewers that will focus on gaming performance does not baffle me at all because I do understand your perspective and I can see where you are coming from. I am having some trouble growing up veere, lagta hai complan kam padh gaya shayad 😉
I understand your perspective veere that the 5000 cards are superior architecturally but in this video I specifically focused on the raw performance gains so we can evaluate the hardware properly. My response to a previous comment : All of these cards are good cards. They lack in terms of value proposition though but if we want the robust Nvidia productivity performance and software optimisation then team green is our only choice and that is what allows them to sell even when the hardware is expensive then the other 2 parties. Let's see if things change when amd 8000 hits the market
@@lazergamer6619 It is not a marketing gimic lazer, here is a reply I gave to a previous comment that will help you understand my perspective - I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
Bhai AI tops bhi zyada hai 50 series main but fir bhi mehenge hai gpus 😢5070 main 16gb vram toh dete aur 5070ti main 24gb vram 😢 wagere dete toh acha rehta ,2k ke liye 12gb not future proof vram nvdia kab samzega😅
So you ignored a comment which criticized you stand proud delete nhi kiya at least the almighty leather jacket guy who enabled rt on it himself said it wouldn't be possible with ai they won't wanna go in court they aren't even lying what's problem
And Nvidia ai benefits are so great future haan abhi a ai even guides you now and a advanced ai boss imagine that in souls game now you can't use same strategy the enemy with ai will adapt
Ye nayi problem ah gayi achanak se vram ki last year nahi toh I remember mere 1060 ka 6 gb vram being good enough abhi toh mere rx 6750xt ka 12gb vram bhi kabhi kabhi full ho jata hai at 1080p
Nope sumit, It is pretty simple to understand the gpu market rn. NVIDIA is king when it comes to ai and productivity which makes their option the most appealing and hence they are able to charge higher prices. I acknowledge their ai and software tech but deep down I know that these cards aren't a good value proposition because of lackluster competition the past few generations. If the other 2 players can catch up then we will have much better value in the gpu market. Rahi baat jaan bhoojh ke ulta sidha comparision karne ki toh sare graphs nvidia ke khudke keynote se hain and on that basis hi maine video banai hai.
It was after I factored in the 50 usd price drop and it is in comparision to the previous gen that is already considered lackluster. 15 percent would have been enough if what I just said was not true
Man your content is amazing
Please continue posting and don’t get discouraged from low views
You didn't play his entire speech. He said, 'This won't have been possible without AI'. So technically he isn't lying. Interesting thing to look at is what significant improvements DLSS 4 would bring over its precursor.
Average nvidia fanboy
You are right veere, and I do love the advancements Nvidia is making in ai tech and software optimization. The point of this video was to focus on hardware that's all. I am hoping amd can take a much needed leap when it comes to AI tech and optimization!
@@StriderGuy I’m not a fan of nVIDIA either. But I appreciate the iGPU technology that AMD is good at. I prefer energy efficient computing and iGPUs are future of energy efficient computing. After all how many goes to 4080 or above? A majority (>70%) of gamers would use a RTX 3060 for gaming. If AMD could come up with an IGPU which could deliver 60 fps 1080p gaming that can be compared with an RTX 3060/4060 level of computation then AMD would dominate gaming market. Especially in Indian market.
loved your point on generated frames!
Frame Generation ko consider hi nahi karna chahiye na, raster performance me mar jayega 5070 4090 ke samne, plus logon ko input lag se matlab bhi nahi bas numbers chahiye!
kuch to 30FPS ke andar bhi frame gen lagake chalate hain.. lekin kyahi kahne :)
I just recently subbed you. You seem to be the only Indian with very nice tech knowledge, and talks about tech openly instead of creating only entertaining content as other RUclipsrs. You aren't sponsored, so that might be why.
Venom's Tech is also one of the best
@@Keisuke429 abe ghanta. Criticism bilkul nahi deta. Sirf achi bate karta hai. Maybe due to sponsorship. Aur wo itna deep me nahi jata just to focus on entertainment.
@TuxikCE:- bhai kya criticise kroge tum nvidia ko? Charge toh woh krenge hi unhone khudse cuda cores wali technology launch kri thi uss time pe jab koi sochta nhi tha innovation bhi toh dekho.and ai is very useful for me . Ofcourse not for many who just wants to play games but still dlss 4.0 will be very good until unless it has latency flaws . Which rtx 40 series does have.
@@EVOLKS.1205 I am not telling to directly criticize Nvidia. But still when reviewing tech, you should talk about everything and give the audience a full picture. For example Venom Tech on Intel 14th gen review gave no criticism and only had positivity where all other RUclipsrs were disappointed.
@TuxikCE :- yup but if they are sponsered then ofcourse they can't say anything and yes if you were also at his place you will also do the same . If we think rationally we have to know who is right and wrong. But yeah it's all what happens in this industry.
Toh kya fhir hume 50 series k card nhi lene chahiye 😂
Nahi 40 series sasti hogi to hehe😁
bhai meri man to 50 series hi ussme gddr7 memory use ki aur vahi enough he 50 series ko overpower karne ke lye
I don't understand ,if its fake frame, how does it matter?? If we are getting better image quality, how does it matter if its fake or real?
Personal Issue AMD fanboys ka!
Exactly
My response to a previous comment asking the same question:
I get the notion veere but it really does, 240 fps through frame gen feels nowhere close to 240 native and another thing I would like to highlight is we gotta evaluate the raw performance with each new hardware update keeping the software aside.
I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
Trust me Khadim, I am not a fanboy of any company! The only people I am a fan of are my subscribers :) Love my subs dil se and I will never knowingly feed them wrong info ever
@@StriderGuy RAW Performance Ab koi ni Boost kry ga Amd bhi Ai pr arha hai Masla Game Developer ka investors ka hai
Thinking to buy intel arc b series graphic cards.
Make sure you check mobo compatibility before making the move
Brother iam thinking of buying Acer predator Helios neo 16 rtx 4070 variant. its price is around 1 lakhs and 64 thousands and nvidia is claiming that. Rtx 5070 ti's price would be around 1 lakh 50-60 k so i dont know how real is it but why would they give us laptop that has 5070 ti on the same price as acer predator Helios Neo 16 that has rtx 4070 . Should i get acer predator Helios Neo 16 or wait for 5070 laptops to drop and when will they launch the 5070 laptops. and if nvidia is claiming prices of laptops us in there post . that prices would be same in india or its going to increase?
Acha hua maine fully AMD wala PC build karne ka plan kiya 😌
GPU manufacturers seem to be pushing AI-based solutions like DLSS to compensate for the increasingly poor optimization of modern games. The RTX 5090 with DLSS 4 may deliver jaw-dropping frame rates in single-player titles, but it could be a poor choice for competitive online gaming due to the increased latency introduced by AI upscaling.
Other than that I barely see 3-5% of performance increase in terms of raw performance
Affordability is another significant issue. In India, where GPUs are already expensive, 95% of gamers won’t be able to afford the 50-series. For those who can, if they are unsatisfied with the 50 series, they will anyhow have the option to get back to the 40 series.
Is was a bit skeptical after buying the 4060 ti 16gb in November am happy now❤❤
happy for you veere!
Frames are frames real or fake doesn't matter 😌
I get the notion veere but it really does, 240 fps through frame gen feels nowhere close to 240 native and another thing I would like to highlight is we gotta evaluate the raw performance with each new hardware update keeping the software aside.
I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
Cant wait to buy it for 4 lakhs after import duties
performance is not native, its with DLSS4 with ai frame generation. lets see which games will support dlss4
A lot of games will have dlss 4 and it will work great, I have faith on nvidia when it comes to the ai tech but the value proposition of these cards is what doesn't add up for me.
name mai blackwell sunke laga ki konsa h100 wala kissa hoga lekin abhi jo lagta hai ki ye log sirf algorithm mai hi khelenge btw looking forward to amd and specially intel gpus (yaar intel isbar solid budget wala diya tha....)
Gpu upgrade Kia to psu bhi Lena pdega, kharcha hi kharcha 🤡
5070 is basically 4070 Super with dlss4. With more power draw. When real test will show, this slide from NVIDIA (5070=4090) will become a meme.
nope bro, there is very big difference in cpu architecture and memeory where its much more compact and faster than previous gen, I hope that help
@@xycoV5@xycoV5 Oh really? Then why Nvidia show 20% better performance (cherry picked) 5070 vs 4070 (horrible gpu btw) without DLSS?
Sorry but it looks like very bad product.
Idk why Nvidia , Intel, Amd are focusing more on dlss technology rather than giving more raw performance also
Now it's the time where we had enough performance to play at good fps by giving more performances we can make it more beautiful but this extra frame tech makes the game less beautiful and also increases latency
idk why someone would prefer to use dlss 4 on 5090.
They need to work in tandem on both and stop cutting corners in hardware by using software as justification. At this point 240 fps native differs drastically from 240 fps using frame gen and sticking to low vram for the 5070 was a move I can't help but question.
@StriderGuy 4060 can easily give 10-12% more if they just give 12gb vram. Same goes with 4070 series and now 5070 . then also people will blindly buy Nvidia.
But also there is no option for people who are more into productivity tasks and casual gamers . Nvidia is now becoming monopoly in gpu. Amd is losing the gpu market. Hope Intel does something crazy
@@StriderGuyFor raw performance, the RTX 3090 is sufficient for now. However, if you're aiming for 4K at 240Hz, you'll need AI-assisted technologies. There are limitations to rasterization performance and how many transistors can be accommodated in current consumer-friendly hardware. You also need to consider pricing constraints. Achieving such performance purely through raw power isn't feasible at the moment, as we've essentially hit a wall in that regard.
@@StriderGuyYou shouldn't jump on the hate train and dismiss AI as useless without giving it a fair chance. Have you seen the Reflex 2 demo?
@@thespectator3312 I have seen them spectator and I absolutely love nvidia when it comes to ai tech and productivity. Not hopping on any hate train veere, here is how I feel about the whole thing as I replied to a previous comment -
I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
bhai fir 5090 lu ya nahi 😭😭😭?????/
All of these cards are good cards. They lack in terms of value proposition though but if we want the robust Nvidia productivity performance and software optimisation then team green is our only choice and that is what allows them to sell even when the hardware is expensive then the other 2 parties. Let's see if things change when amd 8000 hits the market
I found another best RUclipsr 👌
Bhai tu bhi best hai, aise comments padhke mujhe genuinely accha lagta hai!
Great video bhai..
Mere ko ye batao ke agar ye ai ka use kar ke extra frames generate kar bhi Raha hai to isme problem kya hai !!!??? Isi ko to technology kehte hai na bhayya !!! Bs wo game ko dlss 4 support karna chahiye jo ke bohot se games abhi nahi karte hai Shayad
ye jaanbhoojh ke bakwaas Kiya he video me...
Love from Pune ❤
Best way to use graphic card is second hand graphic card
BTC mined Gpus milta hai bro
Mene bahat logo ka kharab hote dekha hai
@@hiteshbehera52293 saal ho gaye tere btc mining ko ab kaunsa btc mine hota hai be .. 3000 series mein hota tha uska rma card milta and jab 4000 series aai tab tak btc mining ⛏️ profitable he nai rhi
the last legendary cards were 3060 ti & 6700 xt... no frame gen bullshit but raw performance
I think frame gen (dlss) started with 20 series rtx card.
@@deepaknanda1113 40 series
@@suryakonar296 are u sure ? 20/30 series rtx cards doesnt support it ?
Still Holding RX6700xt
intel b580 gpus exits
Bhai raw performance toh sahi nahi hai lekin dlss 4.0 ke baare main dekh ke hi akhir pata chalega bhai kese aayega fps real main 🤔
If you are a just a game that must not be probelm for many of you until unless it has latency flaws.
the fact that we indians consider gpu's as a hardware just for gaming makes me lagugh my a** off grow up kids gpu's are not made just for gaming purposes there is a huge world out the games focus on that evolve urself at the pace of evolving tech in the industry
The fact that some people don't realize that a gaming channel will have viewers that will focus on gaming performance does not baffle me at all because I do understand your perspective and I can see where you are coming from.
I am having some trouble growing up veere, lagta hai complan kam padh gaya shayad 😉
Who hurt you, I am a video editor
Your logic is of a child
fr to tu 10 series use krta hoga??
dlss 4 new gen uska architecture diff h
75 games m 1st day p dlss 4 ka support milega
kyu video kyu bnara h tu?
I understand your perspective veere that the 5000 cards are superior architecturally but in this video I specifically focused on the raw performance gains so we can evaluate the hardware properly.
My response to a previous comment : All of these cards are good cards. They lack in terms of value proposition though but if we want the robust Nvidia productivity performance and software optimisation then team green is our only choice and that is what allows them to sell even when the hardware is expensive then the other 2 parties. Let's see if things change when amd 8000 hits the market
@ i c my bad
Man it Doesn't Matter To Me But Iam Waiting For Rtx 5050 Lol
Since they are selling fake frames.
We will also give them fake money
All the upcoming games will run decently only after dlss and fg is enable so fake frames is the future
True but silly how people call it just a marketing gimic lol
@@lazergamer6619 It is not a marketing gimic lazer, here is a reply I gave to a previous comment that will help you understand my perspective - I give kudos to Nvidia for their software side of things and their optimization when it comes to productivity but I deep down feel a lack of competition in the past few generation has really affected the value derived by consumers because that is how markets operate.
ilwe need to use reflax ii for dlss4 latency
5060 main 8gb vram hai bhai 😢 according to rumors
aur 5090 -$2500 ke aane waale rumors the toh rumors ke hisab se acha hai $2000 main hai
Bhai Rtx 5060 will have 8gb vram😂😂 fekdo laptop
(Love you videos Bhai)
Bhai AI tops bhi zyada hai 50 series main but fir bhi mehenge hai gpus 😢5070 main 16gb vram toh dete aur 5070ti main 24gb vram 😢 wagere dete toh acha rehta ,2k ke liye 12gb not future proof vram nvdia kab samzega😅
Nhi samjhega nvidia woh 2k ke liye bhi aab 4080 bechenge.
So you ignored a comment which criticized you stand proud delete nhi kiya at least the almighty leather jacket guy who enabled rt on it himself said it wouldn't be possible with ai they won't wanna go in court they aren't even lying what's problem
The only bad card is rtx 4060 8gb vram but the gddr7 benefits
And Nvidia ai benefits are so great future haan abhi a ai even guides you now and a advanced ai boss imagine that in souls game now you can't use same strategy the enemy with ai will adapt
8 gb vram hoga pakkah atleast for laptop 😂
Ye nayi problem ah gayi achanak se vram ki last year nahi toh I remember mere 1060 ka 6 gb vram being good enough abhi toh mere rx 6750xt ka 12gb vram bhi kabhi kabhi full ho jata hai at 1080p
@StriderGuy exactly 16gb vram dedo and look how cheap vrams have been still because of COVID but the want extremely high profit margins
bhai tu jaan boojh ke jabardasti bakwaas kr rha he 5000 series ke bare me... jaan bhoojh ke utla sidha comparision kr rha..
Nope sumit, It is pretty simple to understand the gpu market rn. NVIDIA is king when it comes to ai and productivity which makes their option the most appealing and hence they are able to charge higher prices. I acknowledge their ai and software tech but deep down I know that these cards aren't a good value proposition because of lackluster competition the past few generations. If the other 2 players can catch up then we will have much better value in the gpu market.
Rahi baat jaan bhoojh ke ulta sidha comparision karne ki toh sare graphs nvidia ke khudke keynote se hain and on that basis hi maine video banai hai.
DLSS 4 HAI ISILIYE TO RTX KA 50 SERIES HAI
It takes research and huge training data to make a model which can produce artificial frames. Acknowledge that. Stop making clickbait videos.
bruh u think 15% performance inc is less lol
It was after I factored in the 50 usd price drop and it is in comparision to the previous gen that is already considered lackluster. 15 percent would have been enough if what I just said was not true
Rtx 5090 is overpriced, should be 1299 usd instead of 2000 usd but RTX 5080 & RTX 5070 pricing is decent
12gb vram more than enough.
bhai tu q itna ro raha hai khud tere pass 30 series k card b nhi hongy tune konsa 50 pr jana
Rona ah raha tha yaar phirse, tera comment padhke ruk gaya. Thanks bro 🫂
Whether he has a GPU or not, the truth won't change.
@@LavesHExe Nvidia ka dalla lgta h voh, leave it