From the Gladiators to Prison - Shadow Tells His Story
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2023
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From the Gladiators to Prison - Shadow Tells His Story
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Shadow mate you were a giant in the 90s and still are. There is no Gladiators without you. The amount of families that sat and ate fish and chips together watching you be the hardest man on TV is golden and can never be replaced or recreated fact. You and Cilla had the X factor before it was even a thing haha. Keep strong mate, this podcast stuff could literally mean you never have to work a day in your life again if you play it right and you defo have it in you and deserve it. Time for shadow to come out of the shadows. A massive fan from the 90's xx
What a comment so true
If I could 'like' this comment a hundred times....I would!
I don’t agree !!! We had cheese on toast 😂
Keep your chin up Shadow. I used to love watching you and the Gladiators. I really hope you get a break on the back of your fame from the 90s. Think about how you can use your fame to lift yourself out of your circumstances. Please don't give up because nothing is impossible for someone like you who made it before. You can do it again. Blessings.
Pizza Hut for me but yeah bro all true
Shadow's eyes before duel... probably the scariest man id ever seen as a kid 😂😂
For sure!
You know that
He was absolutely off his nut
Hahahaaaa
Those were the days 😊
Hope this man stays on a good path.. a 90’s icon! Great memories from a Saturday night as a kid.. thank you shadow.. wish you well!
He's not been on a good path. He's currently in prison and will be released later this year.
yes best wishes to shadow. always remember his bulging eyes ha ha
yep sadly his latest crime was the worst, being part of a criminal gang falsely imprisoning someone and beating them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_King@@SpecializedRider249
I knew Jeff as a kid, he used to come to my house with some of his body building pals who we knew well. He was always very kind natured, he was huge at 17 and was obviously set for stardom. Its a shame to see how they dealt with him especially as Wolfe got caught importing steroids and nothing happened to him. I wish you well Jeff, i hope your future is filled with happiness ❤
Ya I knew him to
Wolf wasn't addicted to crack from the age of 14 though.
@@davidfelix2594evidence of your comment ? Or did u read the News of world to get your untinted views of the world?
@@davidfelix2594If you can achieve a physique like him on crack, get me some and lots of it please…
@@davidfelix2594 neither was jeff, that came after he was sacked from the show
Shadow was one of the best ! Sad to hear how hes been ignored. Screw them ... everyone makes mistakes. Goodluck to him 👍🏻
Well said 👌🏾
I swear it’s the guy who held someone hostage in his flat for two days- he wanted a ransom of 1 thousand pounds 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 how is he out of prison this happened quite recently I swear I’m looking it up now
It is him idk how he’s out of prison he did this very recently this is part of the article and Ali the victim : Mr Ali was subjected to an eight-hour long ordeal, which included being beaten and filmed for "highly distressing" videos sent to his family to elicit a ransom of up to £1,000.
Bad luck to him he a proper wrongen
@@T10_E Behave you bell end!, he had a drug problem which he openly admits, he served his time and spoke about this and he regrets falling into that lifestyle, which many people have? And as a consequence you do naughty shit!, fair play to him for turning his life around, good luck Geoff, dont listen to mugs like this 👆
Gladiators was never ever the same once Shadow was removed. He was by far the most legendary and formidable Gladiator. It’s unjust how he was treated and consequently sent him on a downward trajectory in a life of crime and drugs. But he’s served his time at the end of the day and seems like a very humble, down to earth guy with a lot of knowledge that he could use to benefit himself. Looking very healthy for your age which is great to see. Wishing you all the best mate, legend 💪
True. The show went down. He was the most feared.
Quite reserved & hesitate at the start then opens up, laughs, smiles & we see the real side. Credit to you James, always put ur guests at ease & get this open conversation ❤
❤️
Reluctant to say it but there is one thing that all those that only get a "slap on the wrist" or get treated with consideration for any transgressions. Schofield, Epstein, Richard and recently Huw. They are all white. Chose to believe it or not, but it's facts.
We never ever had a TV license, Feck the BBC hunts C, U, JIMMY SOVILE savile, BBC hunts.
This man will make a really great youth leader. He’s got so much to give
Amen keven
No he wouldn’t he’s a criminal and drug addict, no place for him near children I’m afraid
Favourite gladiator as a kid, was gutted when he got kicked off
He sounds like such a calm and humble guy. I would expect much more anger and frustration.
He comes off brilliantly In this interview and I pray he has a happy end.
James you are brilliant in these interviews and it shows you care and want to give people a chance.
Showing compassion and helping people are important traits and we must remember nobody is perfect.
I really hope he gets a good run now and enjoys the rest of his life.
He got 6 1/2 years for black mail threatening to brake a mans leg's with a hammer working for drug dealer yer really humble guy .
@@trevorclarey3336 he served his timr
@@trevorclarey3336yeah and he’s served his time mate. Get over it.
@@trevorclarey3336did he threatened one of your family members? Are you involved in the world of drugs?
I hope this interview opens doors for him on mainstream tv networks. He deserves it. Poor guy.
Why does he deserve it?
@@ahmedd320 because of all he’s been through. People who have committed more get given 2nd chances. He has just self sabotaged and made bad choices but he was never mean, unkind or nasty.
@@sophiamonet7350 Hmm that is true. I think some ppl fall down the wayside when they don't have the required support in their lives. These people live in quiet desperation and turn to crime to feel relevant, or to be noticed.
are you serious? Read his latest criminal case: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_King@@sophiamonet7350
We never forgot about Shadow, king of duel and one of the most iconic dudes on TV in the 90's. I'm sure hes made a tonne of bad decisions in the past that he now regrets, but in this interview he comes across very intelligent and humble, and i really feel like if he was given more opportunities after Gladiators he may have gone down a much more positive path.
We have never heard his story from his side before and whether people choose to believe it or not I'm glad we got to hear him explain himself a little in this interview and i really hope to hear more from him again in the future. It definitely seems like he is hungry to build back his public image and put himself out there as someone who is trying to do better, i hope he gets more chances like this to speak and help us understand him more. big ups shadow, once a Gladiator always a Gladiator.
Wonderful comment real way.
Your a legend that will never be forgotten shadow.
Exactly!
You new if he was facing some guy on duel they had already lost guy was a machine
Totally forgotten him already.
😂
Sure!
🤩 I absolutely LOVED Gladiators when I was a kid, Saturday night TV has never been the same without it. Looking forward to this one.
There is a new series coming on TV this Autumn if you don't already know
And followed by blind date and family fortunes
Bang on mate
Gladiators was never the same after Shadow left in my opinion.
Documentary about the American gladiator series on Netflix...they were crazy as fuck
This man was my idol as a child.
Sad to hear what he has gone through over the years.. but I'm so proud of the man you are today given what you been through. You are an inspiration, thank you for making my childhood that much better ❤️
I was in awe of this man in the 90's watching gladiators as a 7 yr old. Absolute Hero of mine
He played the 'shadow' role so well, the stare, the formidable force on the duel........great memories
Shadow gave me three tickets to go see gladiators in the 1990's, he turned up in his vauxhall Frontera with the spare wheel Gladiator cover on, at the shops we used to hang out at and we all ran over to him screaming and shouting as he pulled up. He gave all of us tickets. He was such a great guy, really laid back and wanted to put smiles on our faces. There was also another time where we were walking to school and the big breakfast were outside his house one morning. Then there was all this talk about police and drugs etc and as kids, we were gutted and it was sad.
On the day of the gladiators show my arsehole of a step dad said he wasn't taking me and I was devastated, I sat on the kerb in the street crying in to my hands. The guy over the road who was always washing his red VW polo asked me what was wrong, when I told him he said don't worry I'll take you, so he took me and his son, bought us popcorn, a big drink and one of those big sponge hands. A day I'll never forget and thankyou Mick Griffin and Shadow you made my day 💜
Aw, lovely story!
FINALLY we get to hear his side. No matter what I hear, you were a big inspiration to me Shadow!!
Sure sure sure!
Legend you are Shadow, scariest gladiator by far as a kid, and hearing how they treated you after all the scandals from the other gladiators and cast is appalling, best of luck shadow
And they were doing the same thing plus worse
Shadow was an absolute beast back in the day but behind the character stands a humble good hearted man, I wish him all the best for the future 👍🏻
Shadow was AWESOME. Such a great physical specimen and was the top Gladiator. Loved the show as a kid back in the 90s. Always wondered what happened to him. In life we have ups and downs. His Legacy on Gladiators will always remain. Great to see him on here. Bravo to you James. Big fan of you Bro and love your podcast 🤜🏾🤜🏾💯🔥🙏🏽
He had an amazing physique.
Gladiators...are you readyyyyy... such a fan as a kid in the 90's. ❤
😂😂🙌🏼❤️
He was living in my estate and going in and out of prison when I was a teenager he was always a good fella had his problems and demons often wondered how he was getting on good to see him strong and healthy wish him all the best great interview
What Estate was this?
When did he get out ,hes still thin tho
Lee o neil its ok ,it tells u at the start
Heartbreaking to see a man go through such self-destruction. He was the main man in Gladiators. Surely they could put a hand out to the man. Rooting for you and hope we see more of you on RUclips and TV. Stay close to the light.
Your guests are so random it’s awesome! Loved gladiators when I was a kid. Looking forward to this one.
James is a beautiful soul love this podcast
Mate. Stole my point. Love the randomness. Really good interviewer.
Anything goes.....
Shadow WAS the Gladiators! It's sad he's not invited to any reunions. He comes across as a good guy. Yes he's made mistakes but FFS give him a break. Stay strong 💪❤️
It seems we can give breaks for some crimes and not others
I can think of a couple of crimes that, no matter how reformed someone is, the world will still ostracise them till the day they die
The guy was penalised hugely for what he may have done, the TV production company at the start would have expected them to use enhancers to look like the big characters they needed or the show would’nt have worked with Gladiators who were built like Mr Muscle. To work 14hr days using a high amount of energy a bit of speed to get through it is a minor thing and even if he did a bit of Bronson he would have only been like 90% of celebs, crew, tv company executives, Managers from the world of TV and media who all do it as well as all the politicians, lawyers, police, Royals etc who all snuff their heads off, get away with it, becomes part of that world and a blind eye is always turned on so many, then there’s always the odd few who for some reason get singled out, made a scapegoat to pretend that such behaviour is unacceptable when the people making these decisions to create a perfect world in their PR world are the real perpetrators and so many of the British public fall for it all and think nothing bad goes on and TV personalities are great lovely people and do nothing wrong!! I hate this UK culture of cynics doing their best to bring people down who reach a height and see them in the gutter.
So many people do things wrong, if they then learn from mistakes, try to change and do better is a valuable lesson and process for everyone and should be given opportunities to change and do better. The world is brainwashed and programmed by media and the Elite MOB of how people should act, behave and what’s right & wrong. Everyone should be free to make their own choices and decisions and not be expected to conform to how people say we are supposed to act in society. Good luck to Jeff ‘Shadow’ hope he gets s fair deal to actually make a decent living.
Was smiling & laughing at the beginning when James was talking about the Gladiator’s show when he used to watch it as a kid. Brought back lots of memories! So glad you bring on guests like Jefferson! Gave us his side of the story, rather than the exaggerated & savage press articles that eventually ended his career!
I wish I was in a position to help this guy but please someone in a position to help him please do! Watching Gladiators as a kid was awesome n honestly he was the best! It’s heartbreaking his story n he comes across so humble!
This man ruled Saturday nights when I was growing up. He deserves to make a living from nothing more than what he did back then. I hope it happens for you mate.
I know a kid from Some rough estate in London, Shadow was a regular on the Crack Pipe at some Dingey flat that was frequented by some rough smackheads, dealers and all round general scum balls.... Any way, whilst high on the potent Rock, Shadow would do Body builder-esque poses with no top on and scream the famous Chris Akabusi Trademark "AWUGA"..... Whilst telling everybody who would listen how he power bummed Ulrika Jonnson at a Premier Inn around the Chorley Area, whilst on a Gladiators Tour
😂😂😂
This is the kind of story I want to hear
Iam sure this is true!😂
I Reckon many Power Bummed Ulrika back then..........maybe not so much Power with Sven lol
More gladiators 😊 Keemon
Jefferson King, what a lovely man. Hope everything goes well for him and good opportunities come his way. I always looked forward to watching the Gladiators back in the day. James love the encouragement you gave him to never give up. It's sad he didn't keep going with his bodybuilding but he's still an inspiration to all. Thankyou James for another great Podcast.
Absolutely loved Shadow growing up ! He made the show . Seems like he was a scape goat for all their antics . Remained humble now . Wish him the very best !
I’d like to see this man succeed from here on , can tell he’s a really good guy who’s made mistakes just like the rest of us. Good luck shadow. Great podcast James thanks
Great interview. Brought back a lot of memories 😊 used to love the Gladiators. I always thought shadow was so serious, I never would have imagined this was his personality! Seems like a nice guy
This guy was part of my youth and terrible how he was treated especially as he was the best on the show, seems a very humble fella, I hope he gets someone to help him get something out of his experiences, good luck Jefferson 👌
True racism is the manipulation and control of ones destiny based on ethnic origin. In a modern society the strings, the mechanics of that society are carefully constructed. Inspirational characters, popularity is carefully monitored because it threatens the controlling hands. Insightful interview. Respect to you Shadow..
Black panther says no.....
Waycism indeed. Step one: Take responsibility for your own behaviour.
Step two: The footballers that lost their careers for cocaine use in the 90's were not blatt....so where does that leave your victimhood?
You don't care for facts, you haven't bothered researching the issue, you just know it's his skin. Really not helping anyone are you? He was not the only sports/tv personality that was sacked for cocaine, before you were born it was a tabloid pastime for a while.
Same as Rottweiler attacks etc...
It was a thing and he got caught in it. End.
Ah no, sorry.....waycism. Right.
And you accusing complete strangers of being waycist....because of their skin....what do you call that?
I will tell you what it is, it's waycism.
@@Gae-hp9dowhat?
I remember as a kid being sat in the same cafe as him on Portobello road back in the 90’s not long after he was released from Gladiators. As soon as he left I nicked his can of Coke and kept it as a souvenir for a few years! 🤣
Wow great to see Shadow after all these years, i like what he's saying, no BS and down to earth, i wish him the best.
Thanks Gavin, that means a lot
This is crazzzyyy I was just watching a documentary on Netflix about the American version…. And I was thinking I wonder how wolf and shadow are these days… James English always surprising us 🏆
I watched gladiators back in the day, I thought Shadow was one of the only athletes that showed total intention each time he faced an opponent
Good man & so humble. I hope somebody out there will give him a shot. I'm old enough to remember Gladiators on a Saturday night. This guy was, & still is a legend. God bless, Shadow.
Shadow was amazing.. This was so sad to listen to this podcast and to hear the way he was treated... I hope he gets himself back on his feet soon ❤
Shadow the legend - wish him the best - gave us unforgettable childhood memories
When he looked through the helmet on Duel he was a frightening fucker …but to see him all these years later just a nice down to earth man who is so chilled for what he’s been through ..god bless the man 🫶🏼
This was so nostalgic thank you James English 💯
Yes James. Shadow is a legend.
This made me feel kinda sad.we loved the gladiators back in the day it was great! I wish Jeff positivity peace and love ❤
He definitely did a line and when he talks about the others on show they was at it as well but he isn't no grass. Good on him
Good interview. Would like to know more of Shadow’s story, delving deeper into his life, the sorrow he’s clearly been through and more on how and why he went off the rails into prison. I guess that will come through in the book.
Yes ,I image a legend on the wing .Not sure on what his bird was for ?wish James asked .
Lol I just googled it and found out in 2 seconds, use your brain
Great interview thanks 🙏🏾 Shadow was and still is a legend
Seems like such an awesome guy. So glad to see him taking the right path now! Really rooting for him.
Did u see what he got sent down for
@@elvisthewart670Did he harm a member of your family? Do you have a hand in the world of drugs?
My all time favourite Gladiator, I even named my dog Shadow after him. I understand the man has done wrong but he's paid his debt to society and yes he's made mistakes but haven't we all? You show me a person who says they've never made a mistake and I'll show you a liar, he's made mistakes, paid the price and now deserves a second chance, I'm delighted to see him
I mean he tortured a guy for like 8 hours? How ??
@@gabriellagrey4163 I get that and he deserved what he got but like I said he done the crime, he done the time and he's paid his debt to society, if he was a nonce or a rapist then I'd say hang him but everyone deserves a 2nd chance
Damn I wanted to be this guy so bad, I remember hearing about him doing drugs or something but never knew he was blackballed like that. Prayers flowers and respect to you Shadow
He looks as if he is a still a broken man. He probably is on meds because he seems a bit shaky and low energy.
Fantastic James. Loved how you could make him laugh towards the end and bring that smile back to some one who we can all see as really struggled. Great work pal
I feel so sorry for this guy hope he gets his life back on track sacked and shafted for nothing. He deserves to make a living from what he done in gladiators good luck to him
Same. It must have been tough af for him. The way he was treated then, and even years after is absolute BS.
I’ve criticised James in the past for some of his guests, but this was a TOP interview! ❤ 👏🏻
Thanks pal ❤️
Gladiators brings back child hood memories of Saturday night television. It was amazing Saturday television. Family fortunes, blind date, brookside, sunset beach, shame about shadow he was a great but intimidating gladiator!!
You can see james was going back to his youth..great watch..as usual..
Thanks pal
Just by being on this podcast will help him move forward with employment , simply because, he presented himself really well. Just hope that if he ever has anymore darkness in his life, he will have good people around him. All the best Jeff
Despite Jame's best efforts to try to get Jefferson to play the race card he refused to go along with that angle, respect, not everything is about race.
I’m pretty sure the papers went after pretty much all of them from what I remember. The men anyway
@@Mrsusan1000 Wolf got done for steroids in the papers. seems like they were normal guys who were not allowed to have good publicists manage them. Sending them to rehab would have been more humane at the time.
@@boshirahmed yeah exactly no duty of care. As said in the video they went after these guys because of how they looked & nobody can get that big naturally.hypocrites
@@thehitman1980 you can say something is possibly racially motivated about anything, providing zero evidence.
@@thehitman1980 To be fair i think James is a very good interviewer, but on this occasion he was clearly trying to establish a racial motive where there wasn't one, people are sick to death of the race card being pulled for no reason whatsoever constantly.
Shadow is a legend, he needs people around him that understand basic business, you can’t do an interview like this and not have any direct contact information in the description
Good luck Shadow
You seem a good guy.
Become a mentor to young kids that need guidance
This gentleman has no airs or graces. Totally normal, down to earth.
That's what makes me want to see him catch a break , I feel gutted for him as he didn't deserve to be kicked off gladiators , he's a nice guy.
In the 90s , the 2 best physiques on tv ... Shadow on gladiators and ultimate warrior on Wwf . Both looks incredible , big ripped and still athletic / aesthetic
Loved Gladiators growing up and Shadow was awesome at Duel. Almost unbeatable from what I remember. 👍
Such a good guest and quality handled interview, for me this is a prime example of an organisation elevating someone to a point they didn’t like playing second fiddle and then continually hitting someone when they’re down. Jefferson has a lot to offer still, maybe more than he did back in his ‘glory years’! Keep duelling!
One of the few times I actually get recommended something I want to watch! This was such a crazy insight into someone I was petrified of as a child 😅 anyone with a first name James is worth time in my eyes but someone with content like this is worth a sub at the very least! Appreciate your work sir 🙏
Met Shadow at Stratford Racecourse when I was in my teens and he was such a nice guy. A shame when he was fired but hope he’s much okay now. Gladiators wasn’t the same when he weren’t there, Sending big love to you Shadow. Legend! ❤
Imagine calling the black dude shadow today 😂
Mental really 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 maybe he liked it though
@@philipezra8671 he probably did,can’t imagine what this new version will be like. They even going to be able to touch each other in events 🤔
Yeah thing is black people never address it
He got his name from that guy from only fools and horses 😂😂
What a great guy Jefferson King is, I sincerely wish him the best of luck in life, God bless 🙌
James English is a great and genuine guy too.
Thank you
@@JamesEnglishfair play for getting Jeff on meet him on road and in the jail james, mate he has been through it and done some bird which he very much regrets, love for him to turn his life around he deserves a break, deep down his a nice fella, just lifes ups and downs can deal a bad hand, hopefully he gets a hand up from the right people, nice one james 👍👍👍👌🏻
True dat. James is good.
Jeff was a great bodybuilder, junior Mr Britain 1978,79 and 80 and junior Mr New York at same time. The rest of us UK bodybuilders were in awe of him.
Absolute legend. The epitome of gladiators, grabbed the role with both hands and just ran with it. Duel was my favorite event, just because i loved seeing Shadow decimate people. Such a humble guy and treated absolutely abysmally. Wish nothing but the best 🖤
This podcast was fantastic - thank you 🙏
Nuff respect to james English for what he doing and his encouragement respect bro
Shadow randomly showed up at my school once, Stone school in Kidderminster, he just turned up to say hi to the kids and sign stuff for us. I remember him walking through the playground and everyone losing there shit. he lived locally, used to see his jeep with the Shadow number plate and big G on the spare wheel on the back all the time.
I absolutely loved Shadow and stopped watching Gladiators once he left. Hearing his story leads me to believe there was something untoward that led to his demise and continued blacklisting. However, he still have a fan base and support out here. I wish him blessings for his future endeavours and hope his probation officer is giving him the support he needs. I would if I was supervising him because he seems to be such an humble guy with great potential.
Seems a really nice guy. Hope he turns around the rest of his life and makes it his best chapter 👊🏼
They seek him here they seek him their they seek him everywhere…. The shaaaadow 😂
If you know you know 👍🏻
The original Shadow !
Father to Lennox Gilbey
That’s my line😉
@@lennoxgilbey1833 damn right it is sir
Shadow was a staple of the OG Gladiators 🔥🙌🏾
Great hearing his side of the story about his sacking from the show
Shadow and wolf were by far the biggest gladiators on the show. Shadow had that steely imtidating look with his eyes, wolf was a character that u loved to hate but somwhat still likable. They made the show
Shadow best gladiator ever 💪💪💪
What a Absolute Humble Genuine Sweet Honest Legend ❤
I was at Birmingham NIA during season 2 of Gladiators. Shadow came out to entertain us kids. He was blindfolded, and kids battered him with Duel sticks. He was 1 of the top characters for sure.
Such a great interview!
This show was a big part of my Saturday night childhood
I loved this show so much!
Much love & respect to Shadow- would love to see him get the opportunities he’s seeking and make the most of it, bless up 🙏🙏🙏
Really good podcast James, you have a way of softening up people and talking about reality.. cudos to you, and Jeff (Shadow) for choosing the right podcaster to be on with and opening up! He will find he has more support than he thinks.
Nice one James's. Thank you for providing a great platform for us all to wach. Keep up the great work mate. One of my favourite podcasters.
Contenders you will go on my first whistle Gladiators you will go on second Whistle. Shadow was easily the best Gladiator.
Very down to earth interview... Liked this alot 👍🏻
Awesome podcast as usual. Shadow would be huge as an online trainer. He talks about wanting to earn a living from the person he was, imagine logging into the shadows fitness programme online 💪💪
Until you find out about his crimes😮
@@JasonBrown-dd7dj not everyone judges someone on their past like you Jason. He’s served his time. Move on mate.
@@coreymichael1880 what planet are you on ?How would an ex heroin/crack addict with umpteen convictions the latest being kidnap make a good online personal trainer you plank.
@@JasonBrown-dd7dj what are you a fucking saint?
That is such a good idea!
Absolutely fascinating interview. Incredible story, so pleased he agreed to give and was so open.
WOW. Couldnt stop watching this . He seems like what a nice guy .I wish him all the best.
This is gonna be quality ! top bloke Jeff !
Great Podcast as always James, loved watching Gladiators as a kid in the 90's. It was shame that Michael and other Glads that ran into trouble with the law didn't the same level of support back then as entertainers have now. I think people like Michael wouldn't gone down the destructive paths they went down if they had. I am pleased that Michael is well and healthy and is trying to put the past behind him.
So refreshing to hear someone down to earth and without arrogance good luck to you Jefferson all I hope is that you now have peace of mind.
I remember going to Wembley arena to watch gladiators . Only wanted to see Shadow and Jet 😅
Awesome interview James.. I honestly hope Shadow gets some offers and positive openings from this appearance. 😎👍
If his daughters in PR hopefully she'll help him set up his social media and set him on his way. He could use this interview with James as a new start and use this momentum to forge a new career online. Good luck mate 👊🏽
He just seems like a broken man to me. Being kicked off the show seems to have destroyed him.
Shadow at the top of Saturday night TV. Great memories, and thank you for making our entertainment memorable!.
Listened to this again. It’s good to talk- Your a nice man James for helping Shadow