10 Fascinating Tales from the Spider-Man Musical
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Considering how wild the behind the scenes chaos was for Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark it was extremely hard stopping at just 10.
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Noel Dietrich
Alice Whitmore
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Chapters:
0:00 This...is chaos
0:50 Imagination Dragons
1:36 A Freak Like Me
03:14 Turn Off the What?
4:45 I'm Too Sexy for my Brands
6:43 The Amazing Running Man
8:10 Ain't That a Kick in the Head
9:18 The Boy Falls From the Sky
10:28 Safety First
11:23 Behind the Ears
12:23 Plan X 
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Hey all! The debate between whether Imagine Dragons worked on the show is one that will probably wage on until I reach the level where I can actually just interview the band. For now, take that story with a grain of salt.
I wanted to attach a link to an Associated Press profile on Imagine Dragons from 2013 where they talk about Turn Off the Dark: www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rising-rock-imagine-dragons-making-moves-165157186.html
and another one from an American Songwriter interview with the producer that discovered them from 2013 as well: americansongwriter.com/songwriter-u-qa-alex-da-kid-discovering-imagine-dragons-crafting-tracks-rihanna-eminem-u2/
That being said, Glenn Berger believes it's a rumor and doesn't mention the band anywhere in his book. Guess we'll have to find out in a third revisiting of this show three years down the line.
Until then, I highly recommend reading the full 338 pages of turmoil in Glenn Berger's jaw-dropping book "Song of Spider-Man". Even if you don't like musicals, it's one that you're gonna have a tough time putting down: amzn.to/3MJrqGx
I hope you enjoyed the video!
There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who turn on the lights, and those who turn off the dark.
This is the true test of a persons character 😂
"Its up to me now
Turn on the bright lights"
I still don't get that stupid title
@@PaintSplashProductions it's probably on an artistic level that's beyond what the human mind can comprehend..
I thought until the order day that it was turn OF the dark, because of how little sense turn off the dark makes. or maybe I was right, and it's just a typo no one ever bothered to correct.
"Watching The Matrix while Radiohead was playing" is such an early 2000s statement dear god
Seriously, why didn't they take this show straight to Las Vegas? Plenty of theater officials would have been ecstatic for the potential to earn that Lion King money, there are places with the aerial equipment already in stock, and there were no shortage of trained performers happy to play the parts.
Complete Speculation: None of the creative team would have signed up to create a show for Las Vegas.
Funnily enough, this would not be the only musical starring Reeve Carney as the hero and Patrick Page as the antagonist centring around a retelling of Greek mythology although it's very clear which was better (and thankfully more successful)
(on that not, the guy at 2:32 who may or may not be J Jonah Jameson has a very familiar looking outfit)
Hadestown slaps
That is Jameson in the photo, BTW
the outfit !!!
you’re so right
In 1986, Andrew Lloyd Webber was prevented from having the chandelier fall directly on the audience yet stopping inches away from them.
Something tells me, if Phantom had opened in 2010 on Broadway, he would have had his wish. And eventually someone in the audience WOULD have had a chandelier fall on them 😂
They did it in Vegas
@@NairAthul And in the restaged US tour
@@ryanschwartz4959 the Vegas one was still cooler, mainly because the theatre was built for it and the money was insane.
So I actually saw the Spider-Man musical when my theatre class took a field trip to New York. We got to meet the actors after the show. I remember that after a song in the middle of act one the backdrops on the stage rammed into each other and got stuck and they had to stop the show to fix the technical issues. I’d say it took about 40 mins before the show resumed. In the second act the green goblin made fun of this mishap to make the audience laugh. This is the first and only time I’ve seen a malfunction in a professional production
I can't feel bad for Taymor. She didn't understand the property and was insistant on derailing it into her own Greek mythology fanfiction.
that's what makes it unique though, quality aside
I'd always heard Radioactive was written about Spiderman, didn't realize it was THIS Spiderman though
Ah, that makes sense now...
Honestly the fact this musical hasn’t killed someone working on it seems like a miracle
You're telling me!
I think Tony Adams would’ve begged to differ…
Well the original producer (I think) died right before signing the contract...
@@wilma678 I don't think that counts.
EDIT: His death happened before the contracts were even signed and it was from a stroke instead of anything that caused the accidents.
@@KentaroMiyamoto21 really? A man died, and it don't counts? What a monster are you!
You know, a musical just about Arachne would be very interesting, speaking as a mythology nerd!
Yeah, there's a pretty compelling script in there somewhere but forcing it to share space with a fun superhero story just messes both up.
Agreed. Just not fused with a Spider-Man story.
As a stagehand, I gotta wonder how the hell a Broadway stagehand would forget to clip in their stuntman.
I’ve heard these stories but I’m still gobsmacked at the disaster this was. Truly, a miracle nobody died. That being said, the idea of Patrick Page going “idk, I think I should strangle this guy to death, what do y’all think?” is kinda hilarious. We love a man who’s committed to his craft 😂
Petition to ask Imagine Dragons to release their Spider Man musical demo. Anyone know which Spider Man songs are in Imagine Dragons album? Radioactive?
"Natural" sounds like a villain song
There are so many fascinating stories from this musical I think it'd be extremely possible to make a fantastic Tick-Tick-Boom-style movie about its production, complete with reusing the musical's score as musical numbers to emphasize the creators' states of mind. Even just a docuseries could work.
It'd be legal hell to do (I don't even know if Sony or Disney would have the rights to make it) but everything about this musical sounds like a parody that a comedy show about the entertainment industry a la 30 Rock or Curb Your Enthusiasm would make up as an exaggerated joke
Weirdly your idea made me think of a Ryan Murphy styled series that covers Broadway flops.
@@ms.marvelous8156 Can WE add west end flops and add Andrew Lloyd Webber Cinderella
@@samuelblachon95130 absolutely but Cinderella could become a Broadway flop if/when it comes over to nyc
@@ms.marvelous8156 yes i will see Cinderella june 11
Definitely read SONG OF SPIDER MAN for all the detail.
I find comfort in the knowledge that this musical was *literally named by a child*
How does a stagehand just "forget" to hook an actor in safely?! I sure hope he/she was fired immediately. That's not just a little mistake; the actor could've died due to negligence.
I hear the show was constantly in a state of re-writes and re-structuring. It sounds to me like they were in a such a state of chaos, they didn't have enough redundancies in place/maybe didn't have the training to make those redundancies happen.
@@YourFaceisPretty Figured as much - from what I read, the first preview was the first time everyone ran through the whole show continuously from beginning to end
It's not hard to make these kinds of mistakes because things backstage are fast, dark, and high-pressure during stunt shows. But that's why redundancies are built in. When an actor is being hooked to a flight system, the person hooking them in always pulls back hard on the wire so the actor can physically feel that they're attached. That's a failsafe, so that both actor and crew know the moment when the attachment is made. Usually, the other end of the line is a semi-permanent connection to the fly system. It's never disconnected. But this one wasn't designed that way. It was a safety cord hooked to the floor. The stagehand got distracted by something that night and forgot to hook the floor end. So he hooked the actor in, pulled back hard...and the actor was hooked to the wire, but the other end wasn't hooked to the floor. This set-up should never have been allowed without an additional redundancy - namely, two people should have been responsible for the floor hook, one to make the connection and the other to confirm it. Yes, the stagehand made a horrible mistake, but his boss also bears responsibility for failing to insist on appropriate confirmation measures.
I’m sure s/he feels terrible about it to this day. I know I would.
I feel like Tamor could have made a passable show about Arachne, it's just so frustrating that she I guess got bored of making a Spider Man show
Woah wait, was “Radioactive” one of those imagine dragon songs?! If so that’s some nuts theatre lore
Your delivery on this one, especially the section titles, was an absolute delight.
Everything I hear about Turn Off The Dark just confirms my belief that the *really* unlikely thing isn’t that this terrible show was made, it’s that any GOOD shows get made. The Venn diagram of people with money and clout and people with talent, skill, and good ideas seems to be two separate circles 😆
Thank you so much, Allison! :D
I mean yes at least high budget, mainstream productions. Shit like this confirms my belief that “Hollywood” is just a bunch of cia agents playing dress up and laundering money and audience testing. No artists were involved in this circus show lmao
I actually saw a preview version of this show live, and despite all it's flaws, I have a strange love for it
Honestly, growing up with weird anime/JRPG titles, “Turn off the Dark” didn’t even register as odd to me until you said something…
So *that's* why that song is called Radioactive!
An interesting story that came out of this that of "The Spidey Project"; after the numerous delays and accidents, writer Justin Moran laid a challenge that he could write, produce, and mount a Spider-man musical before "Turn on The Dark" was scheduled to open a month later. Many members of the New York theater community volunteered, and by the time "TotD
was scheduled to open (they pushed the opening date again) Justin Moran opened his show, proving that good storytelling didn't need overblown budgets or dangerous stunts and special effects to work. You can find the show on his RUclips page under his name.
Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark is the closest America has come to independently recreating the noble British art of the Pantomime.
There have been a few tries of making a few American pantomime's those being "A Snow White Christmas" and a "Wizard of Oz" production
@@tiffany-chan1235 Which Wizard of Oz
@@Quackervoltz the Oz, obviously
Which is a real shame because I think panto needs to be in more places. It's fun! It's funny! EVERYBODY loves it unless you hate fun XD So.... Anyone who's not a politician or a boring billionaire with no hobbies XD Heck I bet even the Queen enjoyed Panto, rest her soul, she had a sense of humour.
Honestly I'm surprised when Americans know panto exists, nevermind what it is and how it works. I wonder if that's the case for the rest of the world too? I know Japan has some silly OTT stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously, their own form of Panto.
you know if you repaint the green goblin red it would make for a fantastic HIM for a Powerpuff Girls musical
I am both appalled and delighted to learn that the bizarre title came from something so random and mundane. So many rich people, so llttle common sense in the room.
My mind got stuck on the phrasing of "a backstage coup lead to director Julie Temor getting fired."
Like "a backstage coup" as opposed to an onstage coup where the cast and/or audience take over the show.
I'm having flashbacks of Into the Woods.
@@IngenuousSoprano I know naff all about this, what happened, or what do I search?
@@Roadent1241 you want to look for the original cast proshot of Into the Woods (Bernadette Peters as the witch). There's a scene towards the top of act 2 that involves the narrator not anticipating the outcome.
Trying not to spoil it!
@@IngenuousSoprano Oh you mean a scene in the play, I thought you meant something off-script that happens or the cast yelled at the managing director for something and it was like one of their scenes XD
@@Roadent1241 hahaha! No, nothing that crazy. Usually, that's just a good way to get fired.
I feel like a Spider-man movie musical would’ve been MUCH more successful! 😆
Only if Andrew Garfield was in the lead
@@WaitintheWings and directed by Lin Manuel Miranda 😏🤭
@@WaitintheWings We need a Turn off The Dark revival with Andrew Garfield
@@WaitintheWings Andrew can't sing or dance. Tom can.
@@Clay3613Andrew can't sing?!😂🤔
I am so glad I saw this when I was in New York. The story was awful, but it had some cool moments. But I just like being able to say I saw it haha.
I low-key wrote an essay for my AP english class about this musical and how the inability of the production team to work together and find a good version of the show led to its downfall. Thanks Bono.
Congrats! What grade did you get?
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho You know, I got a 100% and my teacher said it was the best essay she'd read from me all year- so the Spiderman musical would eventually get those rave reviews... it just took a decade and a different form.
Just another way that fate continues to ruin Peter Parker's life...or ten. There's probably more than 10.
ive been LOVING this "gosip-ish" behind the scenes videos!!
Halloween safety? This is like Airplane levels of parody. 😜
Taymor had such a great reputation before this show. She really threw that in the dumpster.
YES!!! Always looking for more SP:TOTD content. As someone who’s well aware of the flaws, this show will literally always be my favorite musical. So happy to see more content!
I would say this is my new favorite video of yours… but the “history” of Rogers: The Musical just can’t be beat. Maybe a video on what was on Broadway instead of Spidey in the MCU during that time period…?
I don't understand how you can just forget to attach a harness to the cable. When I was the stage manger for shows I put reminders in the cue sheet and always double checked air and stuff even if other people said they did it and that isn't going to hurt anyone if something runs out of air
day ??? of asking you to cover the raggedy ann musical!!! so fascinating (and also a lot of crazy inside knowledge, everything from unbelievable safety violations to insane drama... we've got it all!)
yeah!!! lol when he was talking about the cut suggestive bits with Arachne all i was thinking was man, at least she wasn't pole dancing
If you aren’t Nexus, you’re against us!
I need too see Bono's Mr Burns impression
ok i know about a lot of these but I WAS NOT READY FOR THE DEAD BODY GREEN GOBLIN THING I WAS NOT READY
I remember that huge canvas Billboard stretching across the theater, probably the most impressive visual the show had to offer...
Why was there no-one double-checking the SINGLE ATTACHMENT POINT holding an actor above a potentially lethal fall?
Radioactive makes so much more sense now.
It's a shame that the moment the Greek myth angle was mentioned, no one stood up and said "NO!" with great emphasis. Perhaps with a megaphone.
Can someone tell me which songs Imagine Dragons made were for the Spidey musicals? I NEED to listen to them, like, now
Rumor has always been "Radioactive" is one of them, which does make sense!
Realized I hadn't actually finished watching this video! What a wild production.
Who decided to relisten to older Imagine Dragon songs and try to place Spiderman contexts to them and realized they work
Still don’t get creating your own villains when Spider-Man has a huge rouge’s gallery already.
Like I don’t know Mysterio the actual theatrical villain
2:48
“Couldn’t find a way to get the dead reporter offstage.” Weird, considering the stage floor had elevators
I mean: would Irl equivalent be, if body suddenly fall through the floor, al-la sand through the grind?
@@AlinaAniretake I just meant that the body could've been lowered via elevator during the scene change from the Daily Bugle to the streets of New York
Woah bro, starts with a clip of Dance of the Vampire's! I wonder if you'll ever do a... I don't know... do a video on it? That would be a gigachad move if you did
Wait a minute... That's how it looked like on Broadway?!
You guys were robbed!
Incase its a template, "Producers" at 0:45 is misspelt. Awesome content! Love the vid
How did this show even happen, it's so bizarre
Thank you so much for all the work you put in those videos 🖤
I'd love to see you doing more list videos! Like, never stop the usual content of course, it will always be the best, but these are also great!
This musical was my first introduction to Spider Man and Marvel in general which I'm super grateful for. However, you can imagine my confusion years down the line when I realize the Swiss Miss is not in fact a member of the Sinister Six and it appears she was made up specifically for the show? I only thought about this like a year ago and tried to do some research, leading me to conclude this, but if anyone has any more information I would definitely like to hear it. I just think it's so funny that on top of everything else they did wrong they just straight up added a new member of the Sinister Six like it's no big deal
I was wondering who she was, I recognised the few characters but her, bee-man and I thought Carnage was Venom but that's on me having only played some of the games and and watched most of the films.
reeve carney wants you to trick and treat safely
'A Freak Like Me' fucking slaps and I will hear nothing negative being said about it. It's be best song in musical theatre history.
The Glenn Berger book is so good!
It really does humanize everyone involved.
What a crazy tale!
All hail the Algorithm.
Imagine being that child, growing up, and learning that the embarrassingly cringy things you said as a kid were turned into the title for the one of the most disastrous Broadway shows of all time.
Love this as a video format
I’m glad you liked it! Thanks for watching and commenting :)
@@WaitintheWings Anytime and always Brendon. Grateful to be a patron too 😊✊🏾
I saw it live, I consider myself a historian of this musical with how much research I've done on this show post me seeing in 2011
ok but if they reference this in Spider-verse 2, I am going to flip my lid 😂
those sets are sick though i can't lie
Love your first Spiderman video!!!
I’m a simple girl, I see Patrick Page and I click
The Better Call Saul clip about the dead body 😂🤣
my first ever broadway show! i was a kid so i absolutely loved it 🤷🏻♂️
First the Carrie musical get derailed by the misunderstanding of Grease into Greece.
The Spiderman gets way too focused into Greek mythology because of a writer misunderstanding an off the cuff reference. You'd think that story tellers would be better at expressing their vision than this lol
Don’t know how to give it to you. But let’s say I have the documentary made about Turn off the Dark that was never allowed to come out. How can I get that to you… if I had it? ;)
I'm still disappointed because this all feels like a huge missed opportunity. Imagine if they started out the play with this bizarre period piece and confused audiences then it was announced that the play was starring "Mary Jane Watson" then we heard someone in the audience came running towards the stage and was escorted by security saying "MJ! It's me, Peter! I'm sorry I'm late!" Then it transitions to Peter's story.
LOL... Okay... I kinda liked it when I saw it.
0:44 Produers hehe
"Before coming on to Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark, Julie Taymor didn't know that much about comic books or superheroes."
Shocking.
That certainly explains a lot
Thank you so much for more Spider-Man content
14:13 Amazing reference and bit of editing right here
When I read that Taymor was involved with this show, my first thought "This is going to be a disaster!". By all accounts it was, because of her.
I knew about the first story but the rest were interesting to hear for the first time
When Taymor was working on The Lion King, she pitched her idea for the second act with Simba escaping to Las Vegas, becoming a drunk and finding Nala there performing as a showgirl!!! The woman is truly nuts! Luckily Disney Theatrical stepped in and gave her a thumbs down on the idea and stuck the same storyline as the movie!
5:19 @WaitintheWings Disney should make a “Princess and the Frog” musical on Broadway!
I can’t believe this is a thing that existed.
Imagine Dragons were rejected, it wasn't their fault. Their music was way better than Bono's
Where’d you find more information about Imagine Dragons writing songs for the show? I saw it mentioned in an old tumblr post years ago but a few months ago when it popped into my head again I could find literally nothing on it besides screenshots of that post. I just assumed it was fake/a rumor.
Neat.
This show...and yet, it looks like only one got punished and never received a chance for redemption.
Edit: It just occurred to me that I told a terrible joke that went over people's heads. I was talking about Arachne.
Seriously 🙄
@@WaitintheWings that and the poor people who had to be hospitalized. Were they covered for that?
PLEASE make a King Kong video already
Me, a confused Marvel fan: “What the heck is this show?”
Wait in the Wings: “She based it on a line from Ultimate Spider-Man.”
Me: “That explains the vast majority of this, thank you.”
Yea…. although The Princess and the Frog should get a Broadway musical
12:52-12:58 Because if there was anything Spider-Man needed, it was to be more silly than the Sam Raimi movies.
Cool
The title's story reminds me of the "Send in the clowns" story - even though the Sondheim's explanation is much more logical and understandable...
I saw this show on broadway many years ago. Thkugh the show was alright the tickets were around 120 dollars. On top of that at the end the actor who played the green goblin gave a big speech about how expensive the production of the show was and that the audience had to reach into our pockets and give them tips. When we were leaving there was the casts holding buckets for us to donate. I went to purchase some merchandise and when i turned around there was a buchet shaking in my face. Wouldn't mind but this was around the second or third week of the show. It was obvious from the start that this show was going to flop.
Wow, a musical so bad it created Imagine Dragons.
There are no "stunt men" on Broadway. They are actors and dancers, some with special training in aerial or fighting.
I saw Spiderman and it was hot mess. No one was injured when I attended the show and the people around me were disappointed about that. That was insane.
Hey wait in the wings why don't you collaborate with a comic book fan and another broadway fanatic and talk about a what if they made turn off a dark 3.0
the Hadestown prologue:
We need a big budget hollywood movie about this hahaha
The title of this show is another reason to hate Bono 😂😂😂