What if gentrification was about healing communities instead of displacing them? | Liz Ogbu

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  • Опубликовано: 11 апр 2018
  • Liz Ogbu is an architect who works on spatial justice: the idea that justice has a geography and that the equitable distribution of resources and services is a human right. In San Francisco, she's questioning the all too familiar story of gentrification: that poor people will be pushed out by development and progress. "Why is it that we treat culture erasure and economic displacement as inevitable?" she asks, calling on developers, architects and policymakers to instead "make a commitment to build people's capacity to stay in their homes, to stay in their communities, to stay where they feel whole."
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Комментарии • 308

  • @CherubiJubell
    @CherubiJubell 6 лет назад +29

    I think she's saying that instead of pouring money into a community to make money (high rises, expensive condos, etc), she's saying to put money into a community to make it better. That can be done in many ways like beautifying the area or inviting business (petting zoo, health clinic, grocery store, etc) that can enrich the community from the inside by hiring from within said community and allowing money to flow not just out of the community, but into it as well. In the case of beautifying places, those can easily be spaces for holding events that can help recoup revenue. I think people are hearing her and thinking that she wants people to build at a loss. I would like them to listen again and consider that maybe by providing something that a community is lacking/wanting, they could benefit more than just themselves.

    • @AlliancedTrolls
      @AlliancedTrolls 6 лет назад +2

      How much are you willing to fund a zoo in her neighborhood good sir?

    • @monkeymeat2024
      @monkeymeat2024 5 лет назад +4

      That's gentrification. You wanna create the land for your petting zoo out of thin air?

  • @j.r.mccalla8662
    @j.r.mccalla8662 6 лет назад +15

    Thank you. I really enjoyed your talk. I especially appreciated your attention to spatial justice and the way a place can bear a brokenness that requires witnesses. I look forward to hearing more from you.

  • @Scarletpooky
    @Scarletpooky 6 лет назад +69

    She seems to be missing a basic fact, that gentrification is inexorably linked to property value.
    Gentrification is about making an area nicer, better place. It's fixing the buildings, fixing the infrastructure, adding features like parks and businesses, removing unwanted thing like that power plant. All of these thing will absolutely end up raising the property value, including rent.
    If property developers spend extra to gentrify the area they will recover that cost by adding extra to the sale price of the property.
    If landlords spend extra to gentrify the area they will recover that cost by adding extra to the rent of the property.
    If councils spend extra to gentrify the area they will recover that cost by adding extra to the property tax. (Which owners will pass on by charging more for the rent and sale)
    The only way to gentrify an area is if every single landlord, property developer, estate agent, and council all agree to shoot themselves in the wallet by keeping the prices artificially low. I sure any sane person can see why that's not going to happen.
    You could get the council to make a law saying that rent etc must stay low but no one's going to bother spending money to gentrify a place if they can't see some return on investment.
    The only way to gentrify a place but not end up forcing the current residents out is to have those residents get all the new jobs that may be created. (ie instead of being replaced by higher earners they become those higher earners) However it's not hard to see that any jobs created by new businesses are likely to be well under the number of residents, so people would still be forced to leave.
    In short: poor people can only afford to live in poor areas, it's just a sad fact of life. If you take a poor area and increase it's value then poor people will no longer be able to afford to live there. You cannot increase the value of the area while also keeping the value the same, it's logically and economically impossible.

    • @GeoffreyCavalier
      @GeoffreyCavalier 6 лет назад +12

      What if as the community improved, with the input and help of mostly its residents apposed to primarily outside developers and laborers, the residents improved with the built environment? When developers improve a space, the primary goal is to make money; a monetary investment. They will use the lowest bidders to design and build, and of course only accept the highest paying consumers for whatever goods and services those businesses. The goal is to turn a profit in three years, and who cares what happens after fifteen. If you had more local designers, business owners, constructors, laborers, employees, and customers, the residents could grow with it. There is also more intensive to think about what the built environment will be like fifteen, thirty, or fifty years in the future because the space these people call home, means more to them than profit. It is their story, and their friends, family and eventually their children's story.

    • @matthewlambert9242
      @matthewlambert9242 4 года назад

      Well Spoken

    • @stephenrineer9103
      @stephenrineer9103 2 года назад

      @@GeoffreyCavalier both are accurate. You can have grocery and doctor offices but at the end of the day if it's more desirable to live there than property will go up in value. It sounds like gentrification is only as bad or good as the people causing it. It shouldn't always be demonized even if people are being displaced.

  • @betsybarnicle8016
    @betsybarnicle8016 3 года назад +2

    I worked in a county Housing Development dept., and this was after having lived 4 years in the Florida Keys. The Keys are a poster child for needing gov. social help with housing, because the land is so valuable, basic service industry workers (hotel maids, waitresses, grocery and other store clerks, etc.) can't naturally afford to rent, let alone buy. There's a need for helping mixed incomes live together in high cost areas.
    At the peak of the condo development craze, beautiful small businesses and public water access points were bought up. This required gov. intervention. I say this even as a conservative who supports capitalism and free markets. Civilisations need intervention to protect culture, public access, and balance of housing for all levels of workers. For instance in the Keys gov.'s couldn't just let all boat ramps to be sold to commercial businesses, and couldn't let all land be owned by the rich so that all blue collar workers had to be bused in from over an hour and a half away (like from Homestead). And the solution wasn't company housing.

  • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
    @grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 лет назад +2

    I guess I can get this a little bit. It sucks seeing chain stores come in and shutdowm ma and pa stores. It also sucks when the oilfield comes back strong and rent shoots up.

  • @novalinnhe
    @novalinnhe 6 лет назад +1

    What a beautiful TED talk! And as a previous architecture student this really drove home a point that I don't think gets taught often enough in architecture schools. The answer to community redesign has nothing to do with how attractive or powerful a design statement you make, but how you treat the community you are designing for. You should be in service to the community you are working within, whether on a single building or the redevelopment of an entire site. Bravo Liz

  • @konstantinn.9846
    @konstantinn.9846 6 лет назад +46

    Step 1 - fight to close the plant
    Step 2 - 5:30 "Why isn't there more jobs in the community?"

    • @Kastchei
      @Kastchei 5 лет назад +2

      I couldn't get past this either, and it was hard to pay attention to the rest of the talk. I had to listen to it a second time.

  • @morpheuslaughing
    @morpheuslaughing Год назад +1

    The market is heartless. Only the dollar signs dictate reality in this system.

  • @haroldjennings6753
    @haroldjennings6753 2 года назад +1

    She's telling like it is. Their not housing being building for working people and the poor. These well to do people are not coming to poor communities to be neighbors be to push the old and poor people out.

  • @MunkeyChips
    @MunkeyChips 6 лет назад +9

    "Your rent is doubled" means "you aren't welcome in your own home"
    I've never heard of people paying rent for something they own. It's not good that people have to move but rent controlled property isn't permanent for residents because they aren't owners.

  • @vcheekv
    @vcheekv 11 месяцев назад +1

    💖💖💖💖💖💖

  • @Mate2Frio
    @Mate2Frio 5 лет назад +3

    The golden goose was killed. The power plant that the rich didn't want to live by and provided low income jobs was removed. Actions had consequences.

  • @blaq7892
    @blaq7892 4 месяца назад

    Im a have not, the story of us is written in motor oil on the street, grass growing out the sidewalk cracks, dog feces dominate the landscape, the unshoveled snow, trash over filled cans, barking dogs, loud cars, threats of violance our story is represented, seen daily on the news.
    Why choose to be have not ? Why shouldn't the ; in my zip code, Black home owners if want to profit from the property value going up?
    I tnink to keep a community depressed as to property value so it can remain an undesirable place to live. With those who have invested seeing no real gain.

  • @tofubl00d
    @tofubl00d 6 лет назад +3

    I get what she's saying: it is useless to solve a housing problem of the wealthy and educated by making all of the poor homeless in the process. There needs to be a middle ground, maybe a more gradual "gentrification".

  • @jamielunes1841
    @jamielunes1841 5 лет назад +5

    The story is greed!

  • @nrrork
    @nrrork Год назад +1

    I was riding through a few neighborhoods yesterday with my mom and sister that just a few years ago were run down and heavily blighted but now are blocks and blocks of the cutest 100-year-old or so bungalows all in these old prewar neighborhoods....
    A lot of them once had overgrown years and run-diwn exteriors, but now had beautiful paintjobs in all sorts of bold and striking colors and varying architectural styles, all surrounded by lots beautiful trees and flower gardens all around.
    The streets were free of trash and had been repaved, every couple blocks was a little park or community garden. MORE houses were in the process of being renovated, and there were small green lots where they'd cleared away the buildings too dilapidated to fix.
    And it terrified me too.
    This is not a wealthy town, we have double the national poverty rate here.
    Who is doing all this? Are these locals who are sprucing up their home or outsiders just trying to flip a bunch of cheap property or turn them into expensive rentals?
    Will the people who lived here when it wasn't so nice gonna get to enjoy the benefits of a cleaned up city or are they gonna get priced out of their homes like in every other goddamn gentrified city?
    And I don't own my home, so I have a dog in this fight. Affordable rent is why I moved here in the first place.

  • @notactualnamejustanalias5389
    @notactualnamejustanalias5389 5 лет назад +3

    Gentrification sounds like a great idea, the problem is poor planning. You cant take away the source of jobs and replace it with expensive homes. You have to have a formula. Assume that the renter or owner will be making livable wage and walking on foot. That's where you start. Are there jobs close by? If they got to travel to a whole other town or city. Or work 3 or more jobs, it sounds like a bad idea.

  • @GeoffreyCavalier
    @GeoffreyCavalier 6 лет назад +3

    While the downside of this presentation and idea is that we have yet to see the fruits of these endeavors, I strongly believe this is heading in the right direction. The problem with gentrification (developing a neighborhood to "middle class" standards) is that it often comes from outside forces. These people do not understand the existing community and only want to start making a profit in three years time, with little to no care about what happens fifteen years from completion of the project. If you include the locals, or give local leaders and businesses some help, then they have greater potential to create a built environment that can grow monetarily and culturally at the same time, while also allowing the locals to grow with it.

  • @fionafiona1146
    @fionafiona1146 6 лет назад

    I do by the way advocate free stuff for everyone and 90% taxes (not only because I got stuff and expect a majority of people to then get others stuff but because it will allow more agency to the recipients (finding the way to job interview with segregation and American levels of public transport might be a challenge)).

  • @madgeorge3877
    @madgeorge3877 6 лет назад +134

    "What if gentrification was about healing communities?"
    You'd still call it racist.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 6 лет назад +10

      Gentrification isn't necessarily about racism its about all the different things humans use to distinguish each other including economic despairety.

    • @packersgb1207
      @packersgb1207 6 лет назад +1

      fiona fiona thats racist

    • @madgeorge3877
      @madgeorge3877 6 лет назад +1

      fiona fiona That's racist. You're excusing white supremacy.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 6 лет назад +1

      Sorry for the bad wording, gentrification is always bad but Germany does not have many ethnic minoritys and its a mainly economy problem here (still a problem that effects minoritys over proportionally) (still something we have to work on)

    • @talentedcreole9340
      @talentedcreole9340 6 лет назад

      Mad George It's only racist when blacks in the communities are then displaced back into suburbs when shopping centers fail, then they move blacks out there, taking back urban areas closer to natural lakes, downtown areas.. See white people moved away from others, but found out that blacks will come shopping there as well.

  • @ragejinraver
    @ragejinraver 4 года назад +5

    I love within the first 20 seconds of this clip she opened up with the stereotypical cliche Millennial BS of I'm such a special and quirky unique snowflake .

  • @fearsomebunny
    @fearsomebunny 5 лет назад +1

    Gentrification shows who concentrated on being just meeting the bar... Who gets caught up in this? Some people who have disabilities. But their story is about the lack of proper mental institutes. IMHO.

  • @TIMMYbtcxiiik
    @TIMMYbtcxiiik 6 лет назад +17

    What is gentrification was about saving families instead of making money in profit

    • @Dimetropteryx
      @Dimetropteryx 6 лет назад +8

      Charles Dickens
      What if society served a purpose and it was the government's job to make sure that it does?

    • @Dimetropteryx
      @Dimetropteryx 6 лет назад +2

      Charles Dickens
      "granting the government more power, which it always uses selfishly"
      Nonsense.
      "Governments are first and foremost self-serving"
      I can tell you have little experience living in an actual democracy.
      "When the power of government was reduced and better-regulated"
      You think it's a good idea for the government to regulate itself? I find that surprising.
      "in England, the country flourished and gave us the Industrial Revolution"
      Technological advancement has nothing to do with governments.
      "The highest points in civilization's progress occurred in small governments"
      Irrelevant, and nonsense. What about the thousands of small governments throughout history that achieved nothing? You know cherrypicking is intellectually dishonest.
      "invented writing, the wheel"
      Unless there's documentation of these being invented, all you have is a point where the trail goes cold.
      "Ancient Greece (democracy, philosophy, Olympics, mathematics, theater)"
      Neither invented nor preserved in Ancient Greece.
      "Giant governments like Ancient Egypt gave the world nothing of value"
      If you bent over as far as you did trying to prove your "small government good" idea, I'm sure you'd find a lot that they gave the world.
      I honestly can't take this argument seriously. It's a prime example of fractal wrongness.

    • @viciousKev
      @viciousKev 5 лет назад +1

      What if this was a capitalist society and not socialist? Oh wait

  • @celestialcircledance
    @celestialcircledance 6 лет назад +45

    If you keep pushing them out where will they live ? Its really sad and refreshing to hear a developer who is willing listen and is not only out for her own interests .

    • @anathema2me4EVR
      @anathema2me4EVR 6 лет назад +1

      celestialcircledance they don’t have a right to live around whites. Sure whites make nice places that people want to live but tough. Blacks aren’t the responsibility of whites to make sure they are okay. So where else they live isn’t our concern.

    • @celestialcircledance
      @celestialcircledance 6 лет назад +1

      A Moment In Time . I don't believe in segregation . That being said there are also plenty of whites in that boat .

    • @loveitorhateit127
      @loveitorhateit127 6 лет назад

      They'll go live out with the poor white people in the boondocks

    • @unf3z4nt
      @unf3z4nt 6 лет назад

      I will answer that question. At the landfill where they belong.

  • @FayAlexGG
    @FayAlexGG 6 лет назад +3

    Then no one would do it because there is no $ in it

  • @bunnybunbun2660
    @bunnybunbun2660 6 лет назад +2

    I was in my vacation bible school and we were learning about building a city with god for god and the teach asked the class what do we need in our city I raised my hand and said affordable housing

  • @uneebamubashsher5887
    @uneebamubashsher5887 6 лет назад +2

    Amazing how you found healing through architecture!

  • @roxie6519
    @roxie6519 6 лет назад

    The crazy thing is when I was in middle school, living in very rural area, and didn't completely understand gentrification was, I thought they were talking about this! Hearing phrases like 'cleaning up and bettering the neighborhood', this is what I thought they were talking about. It just doesn't make sense to me to kick out the longest residing people in any town or city.

  • @mfmf100
    @mfmf100 6 лет назад

    Try google imaging her architecture, all I could find was a day labor station which looks like a carport attached to a shipping container.

  • @urfavoritehumanbean879
    @urfavoritehumanbean879 6 лет назад

    I hate the overuse of the word "healing" currently going on.

  • @wileg5879
    @wileg5879 6 лет назад

    Don't get it

  • @soldia2836
    @soldia2836 6 лет назад +9

    This comment thread is a microcosm of the problem: oblivious people who don't understand "systemic" issues because those issues don't affect them, and the system perpetuates... I mean, if MILLIONS of people are saying the same thing, if the statistics bear out their complaints... I understand that if you benefit from this system, basic human nature makes it hard to let go of those privileges. At some point in this experiment, though, we have to realize that it's possible for the tide to lift all boats.

  • @alanl9497
    @alanl9497 6 лет назад +1

    She’s bomb

  • @CraterM
    @CraterM 6 лет назад +102

    suprise suprise, no ones going around building buildings that they will lose money on, shocking I know

    • @HeadBangaxxx
      @HeadBangaxxx 6 лет назад +1

      That's true but when your in a neighborhood with low property values and you come in and build a lil cheap building.. That don't not even look as luxurious (detailing and architecture wise) as the older buildings and listing them way above market value..White people know we so dumbed down, that they actually release their plans and literature on their what they're plans are for us, just have to find the publications and do the research..and just minorities lower class Caucasians too.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +2

      HeadBangaxxx how do they sell places listed way above market value?

    • @eastsidepb8139
      @eastsidepb8139 6 лет назад +3

      oaxacachaka because white people can afford it. I live in buffalo ny. Our water front was filled with low income homes filled with AA, Hispanics, etc but now they're being torn down and replaced with condos which cost $3000 per month which only whites can afford. Those same people who stayed in those houses before they tore them down doesn't even make 3000 per month. And that's where it began. Tearing down old buildings and replacing them with houses others can't afford slowly pushing them out of the neighborhood. That's what gentrification is and whites will pay the premium because they're closer to work, a way from blacks and it's the new hip thing to do. Pretty simple concept.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +3

      technically, that is market value...but.
      It isn't only white people who can afford them. That's really kind of racist. It's anyone with money, regardless of race or ethnicity. This is just the nature of real estate. They'll have to find cheap places to live or if they own their house, they will make tons of money on it.

    • @HeadBangaxxx
      @HeadBangaxxx 6 лет назад +1

      Okay,let me give you an example these are estimates if want the number let me know. In the city of Chicago, Southside let's say on 55th Garfield blvd you have a three flat right. You search nd see property in the area (from residents who lived their) go for around 90k-130k. Okay now say a real estate investor, buys that building (three apartments)..Renovates the building, new drywall, plumbing ect. When he or she is done they can sell that building for 200k-275k ok. Now say they bought a building on the same block do the same thing.Because the area is so desolate them two buildings on the block might be the only builds on that block driving property value in the area up. The landlords in the area see that the other property owners are getting load of rent per month. So they raise the price of rent. The people (black population) in the area can't afford it so they move out. Now let's say 6 months later more and more people move out. Okay the demographics change. Now, the Chinese come in who are buying up loads of real estate on the low end come and sell their building for 250k. The new owners' rent per month in 1200-1500 per month..you get it kinda hard to explain on text

  • @saharadefrees5130
    @saharadefrees5130 3 года назад +2

    I am so confused as to why that comment section is so hostile.... smells racist and misogynistic to me.

    • @mklolcoru4840
      @mklolcoru4840 2 года назад

      I don't know about all that although I do keep seeing these videos about gender fication and it sounds more like they want segregation. So now it's a bad thing to improve a neighborhood? You shouldn't care about the race of the people that move into a neighborhood. Blaming others for your lack of success and using skin color actually is a form of racism.

  • @johnclark3720
    @johnclark3720 6 лет назад +4

    you had a powerplant that had jobs, you complained, they shut it down...and now you complain there are no jobs. be careful what you ask for...you may just get it?

    • @HaseoOkami
      @HaseoOkami 6 лет назад +1

      John Clark out of context much? Tell me is that purposeful or are you that stupid? The powerplant was a POLLUTER Idk about you but I don't like my air being polluted by carcinogens. Same reason why nobody smokes in my car. I don't want cancer. Closing it down got rid of jobs when really all they had to do was regulate more and take the money out of the pockets of the ones at the top with this.

    • @johnclark3720
      @johnclark3720 6 лет назад +1

      Yes, I am that stupid, you got me.

    • @lilcolgatevert3715
      @lilcolgatevert3715 6 лет назад

      A good man that is able to admit his faults 😂👏👏

  • @blackwhitegrey001
    @blackwhitegrey001 6 лет назад +4

    Gentrification is a larger problem within itself. It’s the culture and people’s view of money which causes these bad neighborhoods. They were once built fresh and new, but no. People decided to use their money on drugs and materialistic things. Never did they ever think about simple investing in there own communities.

    • @HaseoOkami
      @HaseoOkami 6 лет назад +5

      Jee Young no actually that didn't start until the 80s. What actually happened is that as black people moved in whites moved out because of property values. There were actually 2 different markets at the time. The white... and the black. I'll let you guess on which one was lower. Basically the neighborhood lost market value just for black people being there regardless of income. That's how that started. Then the drug war issues come into play which affected the blacks that were there AND the whites who stayed.

  • @PlazmaSilvaraGMS
    @PlazmaSilvaraGMS 4 года назад +2

    then do something and stop whining about it, if you want other people to do it for you than your out of luck

  • @ehabaljoubury8687
    @ehabaljoubury8687 6 лет назад +5

    Wow😍😍😍

    • @PantsB4Squares
      @PantsB4Squares 6 лет назад +1

      Ehab Aljoubury sooo you gay bro? Or were you making fun

  • @Noob___Noob
    @Noob___Noob 6 лет назад +6

    *To sum up* , water is wet and she can't prove otherwise.

  • @flioink
    @flioink 6 лет назад +35

    What if TED was about technology, science, design and other stuff that were part of the original idea instead of identity politics.

    • @GeoffreyCavalier
      @GeoffreyCavalier 6 лет назад +5

      This was about design. The process of design specifically about involving and empowering the users of the design.

  • @drwalka10
    @drwalka10 2 года назад +2

    “I stand here as a architect healer”
    with very vague solutions ?!
    Moving from community to community not healing anyones environment ?
    This black women reeks of a virtuous upper class white women. All talk gets credit leaves with no regard for the long term results.

  • @KevinTheNoobie
    @KevinTheNoobie 6 лет назад +12

    Damn. Homegirl lifts.

  • @zinthetic3822
    @zinthetic3822 6 лет назад +7

    Gentrification is about healing communities. When a community is all low-income housing it destroys the local economy and the jobs will move further and further away and the crime rate will go up as unemployment surges. This happens when local stores have a change of owner and no one dares to buy a business in an area with rising crime and low employment. Now when you look for a job you will need a car, or have to take multiple buses to get there, raising the bar to enter the workforce. If we let a community get to this point one of the best remedies is to redevelop the area. Move out the people who are stuck in a vicious cycle, and bring in money and up the earning potential of the area. Low income ghettos are not sick, they are the disease. And every part of a city suffers when anyone of its parts are stuck in a downward spiral.

  • @soaringvlogs
    @soaringvlogs 6 лет назад +2

    When something's missing as in these ted talks that millions of people see. Why not have a Narcissist come on and give a perspective to the healing of the community. When life gives u apples squeeze well not in the most realistic sense on this level of ted. " THe less effort the faster and more powerful u will be" - Bruce lee which died because of the Chinese mafia to much revealing.

  • @oiboyus
    @oiboyus 6 лет назад +6

    It usually is... unless you're talking about Harlem, in which case it went from a Dutch colony to a mostly black neighborhood with high crime... But for the most part it works out fine

    • @ragejinraver
      @ragejinraver 4 года назад

      Oh really because I could have sworn before the Dutch came the American Indians owned Harlem so shut your mouth you idiot .

  • @equalitystateofmind5412
    @equalitystateofmind5412 6 лет назад +2

    Then there wouldn't be any such thing as landlords, realtors, or the housing market. So, sounds ok...

  • @robf3259
    @robf3259 5 лет назад +12

    Complaining about something and then posing no solution is called whining

  • @Braditude123
    @Braditude123 6 лет назад

    Gibs me dat

  • @yavalio7500
    @yavalio7500 6 лет назад +1

    ok, listen the video, one comment, a lot of people does not care about pain and feelings they want to be better and for that you need pain and new things, you dont want pain=you dont want to be better

  • @theconservativeconvict6353
    @theconservativeconvict6353 6 лет назад +68

    Spacial Justice?
    What does that even mean?
    This ride we call life,is just getting too freakin strange....

    • @user-ns8qs1ky5w
      @user-ns8qs1ky5w 6 лет назад +10

      Dude...it's right in the words. Justice for all in a social community, for everyone, not just one small pocket of people. It's not hard to understand. How is the idea of human equality "too freakin' strange" when it should be our baseline?

    • @theconservativeconvict6353
      @theconservativeconvict6353 6 лет назад +6

      Explain to me how any one person is considered less than another in our current social structure. Without puking a liberal bumper sticker slogan at me. Just give me an example of a real “spacial injustice “ that occurs today.

    • @thomascameron2612
      @thomascameron2612 6 лет назад +4

      I admit to a certain amount of mystification myself. Has spacial justice got something to do with personal space? I just don't know.
      Is it an injustice when someone comes into my personal space without permission? Is that what "spacial injustice" is?
      The word justice implies some sort of legal ramification. Does that mean that I could get done in by the law by simply accidentally passing through someones personal space? Because I have caused a spacial injustice? I am just very confused.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад

      Elizabeth Lee human equality means: you work and I get paid. Sounds great.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +3

      Phillip James Clearman what does that have to do with spatial Justice?
      But, you shouldn’t break the law in the first place. And the real disparity is in crime rates, especially violent crime rates. Are you suggesting different populations have the same actual crime rates but that good legal council gets criminals off in one population and not another thereby creating an illusion of differing crime rates?

  • @jlstout7807
    @jlstout7807 6 лет назад +30

    I would rather money be spent to train poor and working class people to become registered nurses, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, etc, rather than throwing money into renewing low income housing.

    • @CherubiJubell
      @CherubiJubell 6 лет назад +7

      JL Stout that's not what she said. You don't have to build low-income housing to accommodate people in low income areas.
      Most of the communities in question lack simple things like grocery stores and pharmacies. Instead of building a high-rise, a community would benefit more from access to such resources. Not only would the business owner be able to make money, but he could hire people from within the community to help increase the flow of cash within the community. And thus help increase the overall standard to reduce the bad neighborhoods.
      If you think about it, everybody needs a home if they can't stay in one area, they will go to another. At least we can make an attempt to allow them to stay in a community in which they have learned to function.

    • @LujeAldwald
      @LujeAldwald 6 лет назад +1

      And if they stay in the community and be proud of it and happy they are more likely to take care of it

  • @user-cm1sl2sk6g
    @user-cm1sl2sk6g 2 года назад +1

    So, where are the 5 steps... She just said only three steps.. and I could not totally understand what she are saying..

  • @whocares4592
    @whocares4592 6 лет назад +181

    Remember when TED was about science?

    • @Apostate_ofmind
      @Apostate_ofmind 6 лет назад +55

      it never was. Ted is about ideas. Technology And Education. She is an architect spreading knowledge about a problem and a solution. Like the acronym says.

    • @pinegulf
      @pinegulf 6 лет назад +5

      Event Hʘriךּon okay, fair enough. DO you remember when an idea worth spreading was science?

    • @ajmooretap
      @ajmooretap 6 лет назад +9

      I literally look at the suggested TED videos and 5 are science related. Get rid of that confirmation bias you're holding onto.

    • @Oddsors
      @Oddsors 6 лет назад +4

      pinegulf two videos ago?

    • @Dimetropteryx
      @Dimetropteryx 6 лет назад +16

      TED was never about science exclusively. If you had been an actual subscriber instead of a dumb troll, you'd know that.

  • @tiavor
    @tiavor 6 лет назад

    especially the second half was so post modern, I didn't understand a thing even though I know the words.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад

      Tiavor Kuroma it’s too stupid to be called “post modern”. It’s more like Critical Race Theory.

  • @taoufikvlog9454
    @taoufikvlog9454 6 лет назад

    This is my RUclips channel

  • @eric4x4
    @eric4x4 6 лет назад +21

    "Equitable distribution of resources" also known as "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - Karl Marx.
    Fantastic way to destroy any and all motivation to succeed.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +3

      Eric Mercon it really becomes a race to do as little as possible.

    • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
      @birgittabirgersdatter8082 6 лет назад +1

      oaxacachaka you said that well.

    • @littlesometin
      @littlesometin 6 лет назад +4

      It motivates me to do more. As a matter of fact my motivation plummets when I see the statistics of the rich getting richer and the poor poorer.

  • @bgcm1995
    @bgcm1995 6 лет назад +1

    Okay first of all, in a poc in a low income community, and to be honest I'm sick and tired of people indicating we need hand outs. How about, people work for what they want instead of staying in broken neighborhoods and owning up to their own failings? How about people, adults, take responsibility for their own actions?

  • @drwalka10
    @drwalka10 2 года назад +1

    So self righteous with a bit of CRT @ 1317.
    Yikes

  • @henrypalmer1831
    @henrypalmer1831 6 лет назад

    Lol how so many people could not like this. Fabulous, heartfelt talk

  • @heydanbud
    @heydanbud 4 года назад +2

    if you would rather have a quarter of your homes vacant, high crime, and run down houses than to make new friends with people who are a little bit different, then you are sick.

    • @andreleaphart6649
      @andreleaphart6649 4 года назад +1

      Preserve the historic and build on that history....improves value.

  • @soaringvlogs
    @soaringvlogs 6 лет назад +3

    Where's the sincerity and actual relationships that need to be portrayed. Agenda another example. Thanks for controversial message TED.

  • @nice3333333333
    @nice3333333333 6 лет назад +6

    Spacial Justice. We’re now fighting space, ladies and gentlemen... Space...
    This battle will be costly, but even the vast emptiness of our universe will learn to submit to the power of the dar -oh I mean SJW.

  • @vorlonagent
    @vorlonagent 6 лет назад +4

    There's problems here. What Ms. Ogbu is asserting something like ownership rights for people who don't own the property. She's defending the right of urban blight to exist in the name of "local character". If you read between the lines, she is describing dying neighborhoods and resisting what used to be called "redevelopment".
    If people can negotiate an agreement with those who DO own the property, well and good. No issue with that. But you have to own the property to decide what happens to it. You don't get to collectivize it.
    I was also confused about Ms. Ogbu's "doubling rent" comment. I thought San Francisco, like all large urban centers was rent-controlled. Landlords shouldn't be able to arbitrarily raise rent on a tenant just because a tech company has moved in and housing is in demand. Generally they can only do it when a tenant moves out, which is why rent control drives drives rents up faster and higher than would occur otherwise. Rising expenses for a large pool of housing which can only be expressed through a small subset of that housing.

    • @boyar1978
      @boyar1978 5 лет назад

      landlords should be able to rent thier properties for how much they want. The government should not be able to tell me how much rent i can charge.

  • @Noob___Noob
    @Noob___Noob 6 лет назад +30

    Sometimes it's better to invite someone to talk about their achievements and results of their projects, NOT when project is still in its infancy. IDEA NOT WORTH MY TIME.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +4

      Then they would have no progressive guests

    • @CherubiJubell
      @CherubiJubell 6 лет назад

      Their tagline is ideas worth spreading, not ideas already accepted and in practice worldwide...

    • @andrewsork4897
      @andrewsork4897 6 лет назад +1

      CherubiJubell but how do you know if the idea is worth spreading if it hasn't been tested yet?

  • @bigro4444
    @bigro4444 6 лет назад +6

    But what made those hoods bad to begin with?

  • @flat_foot9017
    @flat_foot9017 6 лет назад

    NOT ALL ideas are good okay!

  • @one1charlie643
    @one1charlie643 6 лет назад +124

    So now even 3D space is racist. Stop the world I wanna get off.

    • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
      @grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 лет назад +10

      Thank god string theory says there are 8 more dimensions where we may be able to escape racism.

    • @DimitriTechOfficial
      @DimitriTechOfficial 6 лет назад +7

      That's not at all what she was saying. Gentrification was only a small point in her entire presentation. As someone who works in architecture myself, what I took away from this was that there are more to take into consideration when working on projects that will have a long lasting effect on the surrounding communities. I work primarily for school districts and hospitals, so overall what she was saying made sense at least to me. Architecture is fundamentally the building of environments, and here she was delving deeper on the intricacies and balances that newly developed or restored environments depend on. This knowledge could be beneficial for everyone actually, the problem is that most people do not care simply because of the illusion that it does not affect them. Previous generations of architect's worked to create that illusion, but now as we find that people are now more than ever desensitized that breaking, that illusion is something we must incorporate into our job, so that people are more aware of the communities that they are intrinsically a part of, and design in a way that encourages them to participate and make something of those spaces.

    • @tiavor
      @tiavor 6 лет назад +4

      it's not the dimensions you think of. the 8 more dimensions is more like adding another 8 arrows to the graph with the cube inside. so even one extra dimension means infinite 3-dimensional spaces.

    • @ManitechCorp
      @ManitechCorp 6 лет назад

      WHAT?

    • @ManitechCorp
      @ManitechCorp 6 лет назад

      Grizzlyman MeinTeil At least the demogorgon has kind of hivemind.

  • @EmiL3TageWach
    @EmiL3TageWach 6 лет назад +10

    Racism... so hot right now. Among Black people at least.

  • @boumediene7516
    @boumediene7516 6 лет назад +1

    Hello from Algeria

    • @retiredshitposter1062
      @retiredshitposter1062 6 лет назад +1

      Hello. Is there race baiting and radical feminists in Algeria?

    • @boumediene7516
      @boumediene7516 6 лет назад

      Echo Chamber Infiltrator
      Hi my brother honestly ther was a litle bit but now no and thank you

    • @unrulycrow6299
      @unrulycrow6299 6 лет назад

      Hello from France. :)

  • @user-fk5re3br6s
    @user-fk5re3br6s 6 лет назад +1

    ➰. وقفة مع النفس .➰
    ...🔛...ذات مرة كان هناك ملك قاسٍ وظالم جداً إلى درجة جعلت رعيته يتوقون إلى موته أو خلعه عن عرشه ، لكنه فاجأ الجميع ذات يوم بإعلانه عن قراره ببدء صفحة جديدة ، فوعد الجميع قائلاً : لا مزيد من القسوة والظلم..!! وبدآ ملكاً صالحاً وفقاً للكلمة الّتي أعطاها للشعب ، فأصبح معروفاً بالملك الطيب ،،،
    بعد مرور أشهر على تحوله هذا تجرأ أحد وزرائه على سؤاله عن سبب تغيره..؟! ، فأجاب الملك : " بينما كنت أتجول في غاباتي على صهوة حصاني ، رأيت كلباً مسعوراً يطارد ثعلباً ، هرب الثعلب إلى حفرته لكن بعد أن عضه الكلب في ساقه وشلها بشكل دائم ، ذهبت فيما بعد إلى قرية ورأيت ذلك الكلب المسعور هناك ، كان ينبح في وجه أحد الرجال ، وبينما كنت أراقب إلتقط الرجل حجراً كبيراً وألقاه على ذلك الكلب فكسر ساقه ، لم يمض الرجل بعيداً قبل أن يرفسه حصان ويحطم ركبته ليصبح مقعداً ، بدأ الحصان بالعدو لكنه وقع في حفرة وكسرت ساقه ، تأملت في كل ما حدث وفكرت الشر يولد شراً ، وإذا واصلت أساليبي الشريرة فلا شك أن الشر سينال مني يوماً ، لذلك قررت أن أتغير ،،،
    ذهب الوزير مقتنعاً بأن الأوان قد آن للإنقلاب على الملك والإستيلاء على العرش وبينما كان غارقاً في أفكاره تلك ، لم يكن يرى خطواته أمامه فسقط أرضاً وكُسِر عنقه..!!
    ​...🔚...في وقتٍ ما يجب أن يقف كل منا وقفة حساب مع نفسه ، وقفة صادقة يعرف فيها أخطائه ومحاسنه ويقوم بالتغيير للأفضل ،،،​
    t.me/reading_life
    ┈┅•٭ ​إنــتــهــت​ ٭•┅┈

    • @lilcolgatevert3715
      @lilcolgatevert3715 6 лет назад

      Miss She I thought the exact same thing before clicking on the comments lol.
      Idk what you said but I love the middle eastern languages' designs 👌👌🔥

    • @CIA_Is_aTerrorist_Orginization
      @CIA_Is_aTerrorist_Orginization 6 лет назад

      عــموري ـالنـعـمـي
      Alluah Ackbar

  • @chrischoir3594
    @chrischoir3594 Месяц назад

    As long as welfare, 40b and section 8 exists there is never 100% gentrification

  • @0xstev3
    @0xstev3 6 лет назад +1

    I see no problem with the issues she brings up. You're not entitled to cheap rent...

  • @drwalka10
    @drwalka10 2 года назад +1

    The dishonesty and delusion is high on this one. No economic solutions , all appeals to emotions. When communities become more desirable / safer they also become less affordable for renters of all skin colors.

  • @niazsayakhan1791
    @niazsayakhan1791 6 лет назад

    What if TED was about facts and science instead of pushing a Liberal agenda?

  • @wolfshepard1330
    @wolfshepard1330 6 лет назад +6

    Unsub, i wanted sciensce not his...

  • @hswami74
    @hswami74 6 лет назад +17

    The Liberal Propaganda machine continues...

  • @unspecifiedusername8820
    @unspecifiedusername8820 6 лет назад

    More social justice idiocy from TED.
    I miss when they used to have good talks.

  • @_xkzt
    @_xkzt 6 лет назад +2

    phone number 5

  • @jacksonsartori2000
    @jacksonsartori2000 6 лет назад

    O mundo é tão grande, pra você pensar no tamanho de um prédio e sentir inveja. TED está cada vez pior

  • @andreiistrate2214
    @andreiistrate2214 6 лет назад +8

    Wow, those were 15 minutes of my life that I've wasted. What did I learn? This talk can be summed up as:
    "Healing renews our faith in the process of becoming" said the "architect-healer" when describing "Spatial Justice".
    Which is to say nothing. Just some fluff, nice sounding gibberish that actually does not convey anything.
    The only message that came across was "Listen to people when addressing public concerns", which is both self-evident and problematic because angry people shout a lot of nonsense.

  • @evanpfeffer7319
    @evanpfeffer7319 6 лет назад +42

    Justice has a geography hahahah

    • @user-ns8qs1ky5w
      @user-ns8qs1ky5w 6 лет назад +3

      Look up the definition of gerrymandering.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад

      It’s called Justography

    • @GeoffreyCavalier
      @GeoffreyCavalier 6 лет назад

      It does though. People are treated differently, have different life expectancy, different education quality, and more based on their zip code.

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад

      lol, do you ask people about their zip code before how you decide how to treat them? Do you think people's life expectancy changes if you move then from one zip code to another if they maintain the same life style? If you move someone from one zip code to another will they automatically change attitudes towards marriage and education? hoe does geography cause these things? Ever hear the saying birds of a feather flock together?

  • @IvanRSaldias
    @IvanRSaldias 6 лет назад

    What if NOT?
    I just don't buy BS

  • @flametherapy545
    @flametherapy545 6 лет назад

    Jhhez just go away. Trying to earn money through virtue signalling

  • @chrischoir3594
    @chrischoir3594 Месяц назад

    excuses

  • @tamegomait
    @tamegomait 6 лет назад +96

    Honestly these bullshit Ted talks

    • @Tsukiko.97
      @Tsukiko.97 6 лет назад +4

      Luckily I am still able to fully enjoy TED Ed.

    • @Woke365
      @Woke365 6 лет назад +3

      tamegomait thumbs down to your comment.

    • @brendarua01
      @brendarua01 6 лет назад +5

      All these knee jerk rightist snowflakes. It would be funny if you weren't too stupid to get the message. Too bad you can't fix stupid.

    • @SykoEsquire
      @SykoEsquire 6 лет назад +3

      Exactly, I had hope from the title, but deep down knew what was coming. It's hard for me to even be critical of this one, because she addled on and went off on tangents, ending with no conclusion.
      What I can be critical of can be summarized in short. "OMG, we live in such a shithole. It's so bad" then when "Muh, gentrification" shows up it's "OMG, I am romantically enamoured by my shithole, don't change it or it will be forgotten." Get fucked, lady.

    • @Hardin9
      @Hardin9 6 лет назад +2

      +SykoEsquire I am anti gentrification myself, but I agree with you that bitch's lecture made no sense, she did not make a succinct point, and was a bunch of damn rambling. And it was Anti-Male, Anti-White People, this was nothing but Female Supremacy and SJW peddling!
      This is why I call TED a fraud, because they have too damn many speakers on their platform peddling Feminist and SJW Propaganda, spewing rhetoric that has NOTHING to do with Technology, Entertainment, or Design!

  • @axxessmundi
    @axxessmundi 6 лет назад

    Is that hair weave a symbol of gentrification?

  • @JammieDawdger
    @JammieDawdger 6 лет назад +2

    There was very little need for race to be mentioned in this talk. This is yet another example of something that could perhaps contain a good meaning or idea but is ruined by a ridiculous agenda

  • @Sheeshening
    @Sheeshening 6 лет назад +1

    Don’t know bout the US, but in Germany that’s exactly the case. The target is to increase living standards and by that people actually get less criminal.
    We don’t do it from the pseudo sjw pov though. This talk was really empty, ideas not even worth uploading.

  • @b_uppy
    @b_uppy 6 лет назад +3

    Gentrification IS about that already.

    • @jesusvillalobos3468
      @jesusvillalobos3468 6 лет назад +4

      B uppy That's I what I was saying. Gentrification is the best f or residents and investors so wtf is she talking about

    • @cloudAce46521
      @cloudAce46521 6 лет назад +3

      Jesus Villalobos not good for the residents who were there before gentrification

    • @bv7920
      @bv7920 6 лет назад +5

      You're not entitled to live where ever you want. If I live in a house and then suddenly can't afford to live there, I don't get to stay because muh emotions.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 6 лет назад +3

      youngsquire
      Gentrification occurs typically with artists moving into poor areas pioneering life back into them. Wealthier people slowly acquire property, often from landlords, and also bring jobs with them.

    • @cloudAce46521
      @cloudAce46521 6 лет назад

      B uppy jobs that the residents who were there cant get. The wealthier ppl are getting wealthier and the poor, poorer. You dont need to explain what it is.

  • @metalwellington
    @metalwellington 6 лет назад

    Always with the race issues. Always.

    • @andreleaphart6649
      @andreleaphart6649 4 года назад

      @@adamchapman9491 im sure they are tired of pointing it out. Ppl need to be tired of being racist so there is nothing to point out.

  • @lxc647
    @lxc647 6 лет назад +2

    I clicked the video to watch the ad and dislike and comment.🔕🔇⛓⚔⚰

  • @FU2Max
    @FU2Max 6 лет назад

    what drivel

  • @adamgames2539
    @adamgames2539 6 лет назад

    First

  • @erikmerrill8280
    @erikmerrill8280 6 лет назад +12

    Thanks for the 15 minutes of platitudes and buzzwords!
    First of all, let me get this straight. A utility company allows people to temporarily use their property during a period where they can’t sell the land and then after sed period expires, you are mad that they are going to sell the land. Be more entitled.
    Second of all, could you please explain what you mean by people who have been “silenced”. I guarantee that is just a buzzword that you could not explain if your life depended on it.
    Third of all, if you don’t want your rent doubled, buy your own property or move. The fact that you think renters have any claim to the property they are temporarily allowed to inhabit is just ridiculous.
    Fourth of all, I’m white and I have been questioned by police for no reason. It’s not the end of the world. Get over it.
    Fifth of all, the ghetto is a place of violence! Are you kidding me? What are we just going to sit here and pretend like people aren’t getting murdered at exorbitantly higher rates than the rest of the country?

  • @oaxacachaka
    @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +1

    I can find no justification for “spacial justice”. The reason there are no jobs or resources is because of high crime. It is basic cause and effect. Hating the police doesn’t help either.

  • @MidnightRambler
    @MidnightRambler 4 года назад +2

    This lady is a communist 😂

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird 6 лет назад +2

    these talks are too rehearsed and coached, its not how they really talk

    • @PantsB4Squares
      @PantsB4Squares 6 лет назад

      You calling it a they? Please use its proper pronoun

    • @Jason_Singe
      @Jason_Singe 6 лет назад +1

      "They" is the proper pronoun, because it's not just about a single speaker. It's about many speaker, with various pronouns.

  • @jesusvillalobos3468
    @jesusvillalobos3468 6 лет назад +42

    She has it all wrong. She has to look at her neighbors and talk to them and uplift them to stop crime if they are criminals, she has to tell her working neighbors to become entrepreneurs and strive for better, she also has to tell her young neighbors to read books on their own terms if the schools are failing them. Everybody can change and you must if you want a beautiful and fulfilling life.
    It wasnt your choice to be born poor it is your choice however, if you remain poor.

    • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
      @grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 лет назад +10

      Apparently less fortunate people are some kind of inferior human that is unable to thrive on their own. They need an outside force that they blame on for their poverty to come in and save them, and then promptly leave. I mean, I don't think thats the way it works, but that sure is the way its described.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 6 лет назад +7

      It's not a choice to get rich if you don't get resources or time to use them (librarys and support to stay in school trough high school for starters).

    • @danielsanichiban
      @danielsanichiban 6 лет назад +13

      Please realise and understand that there are people living with very different constraints and issues than those which you are probably used to. Your comment reads like the thoughts of a very privileged person. How does someone demonstrate such ignorance and then tell people to read a book

    • @oaxacachaka
      @oaxacachaka 6 лет назад +3

      Dan Elleson so what are these conditions?
      And why do they make it impossible to not commit violent crime and not stay in school? I know there are homeless families so that could be one possibility but there aren’t that many homeless families.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 6 лет назад +2

      oaxacachaka
      The conditions are poverty, bad examples and the near impossibly of somehow "making it".
      If ever American school Wehr a place providing students with resources to do better in live and every family could afford to house and feed their children trough high school (other countries provide more social services and quality of education) it might improve the situation. Segregation, systemic discrimination (if by its foundation) and desperety don't aliviate them selfes.

  • @PantsB4Squares
    @PantsB4Squares 6 лет назад

    I got hot sauce in my dickhole. Fcki g burns! Almost burns as much as this progressive LGBTQhagdbeoy pro ted talk just by the title. I cant bear to watch this on assumption of what i know she will talk about. Please ted. Don't turn SJW progressive LGBQT on us. You are suppost to be intelligent critical thinkers. Not subjectors