I really dislike this quote because it's more about knowing the cause and effect. Especially in art. At the end of the day you combine "the rules" to create something fresh rather than break them.
The engine was fine with the knight sacrifice for the most part, the evaluation didn't change much from that. It's the exchange sacrifice that it doesn't like, because it thinks it sees some move sequence that lets black defend. Does it exist? Yeah, probably. Doesn't mean the opponent's gonna find it though.
@@kellamyoshikage286 If you want the opening trap I played into to get that, I'll post the moves The 1500elo bot abandoned the queen on B3 after that and let me trade a rook for it
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 Yeah. The only difference between a sacrifice and a blunder is the move rating, but blunders don't have to be captures, so...
honestly, Nelson is a really good instructor. i have been following other channels like gotham or adigator, but their lessons.. are jut not pratical as nelson's. thank you Nelson!
Nelson you are an excellent teacher! Clear and concise and you explain things well for those of us who are fairly new to chess without being condescending.
I find it funny how in the first half, as he's saying things like "so I decided to sacrifice this piece since it's necessary to open up the position" or "this move is very important for me", the bar just keeps dropping lower and lower like "tf you doing"
His opponent didn't defend optimally. If he did, Nelson wouldn't have shown us this game because he would have lost because of his basically unsound sac. But sometimes these sacrifices work, especially in something like blitz when decisions are made fast.
@@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 I wouldn't call the sacrifice unsound. Just because a 4000 ELO engine can see the optimal way to defend something doesn't mean that, given the time and circumstance, it's a bad move. That's the thing with engines, they're usually good for checking your games, but at some point you have to treat them like the homeless guy yelling advice at you from an underpass.
@@coreyeverett5500 you have a good point, but at the highest level, players are definitely good enough to be completely winning after that rook sac unless it’s a blitz game. The main thing that differs GM’s from top engines is that the engines have slightly better moves consistently, but GM’s 99/100 times GM’s will take advantage of a -3 blunder
@@hankmoody666 I mean, of course they will. And there's basically tens of times a super GM sac'd a rook/queen etc to get a check mate. And yet, given an intel i9 10700K a computer will find a way to pull through. Something those GMs did not. That's kind of the difference, even if you're really good at the game you're not even close to being able to make the moves a computer does. That's kinda the point of the raw processing power. It's also the reason you have ''human moves'' and ''computer moves''. Because some computer moves end up with a "do this move and you'll get a mate in 39", which is something noone in this world is able to calculate.
I think that one of the most important sacrifice rules is: think of what will happen if the opponent won't accept the sacrifice. You may have thought of a great tactic which forces a win, if the opponent accepts the sac, but sometimes they can reject it and it backfires on you. Example game: Légal vs Saint Brie: 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 d6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bg4 5. Nxe5? Bxd1?? 6. Bxf7+ Ke7 7. Nd5# Here, black did accept the sacrifice and lost, but if they played 5... Nxe5!, they would have been up a piece and have a good game.
Well done Nelson. Just subscribed! All your tips are well explained and something average players can grasp and possibly use as part of our improvement.
Best chess channel. You have a way of breaking down the education into structured, logical points, in a way that other chess educators can't. Others seem to be "all over the place", as it happens when most brilliant people teach. But you have a way to make things seem logical and structured. Your videos are a joy to watch.
After watching your videos I recently implemented two moves for a victory 1. Protected a queen with a knight for a checkmate setup 2. Sacrificed a rook to lure the queen away so that I can enforce the checkmate Thanks for these amazing videos!
great video, very well explained. i have been struggling to get to the next level in chess for the last while, i feel im too defensive and dont fully understand that its ok to lose pieces, provided its done intelligently, so this type of video really helped!
From the position before you made the sacrifice, stockfish’s best move is a4. If both players play Stockfish from that point on it transposes into a beautiful Queen and King vs Rook and King endgame where white uses check to capture the Rook and then uses their King and Queen together to mate Black. The Rook sacrifice, on the other hand, just about loses by force when both players play the best moves. Funny thing is, if Black ignores your Knight sacrifice (which is the best move at that point) and plays a3, they are completely winning.
I'm curious why the eval drop so much when you sacrifice the exchange (R vs N)? What was the computer best move or your opponent best response to that sacrifice?
Good question! The computer liked all the next few moves until he played Qf8. Before Qf8 it was -4 for black if he played dxe5. It's such a weird move though because it opens up his king to discovered check with d6 from the bishop on c4, but then after Kf8 I don't really have an attack any more. Really tough move to find in a 3/0 blitz game though. And after Qf8 then I'm just winning at that point.
though the sacrifice was suboptimal, you could have played rxh5, black can take it back with his rook or move ng6. If he took the rook with his own, you check with nxh5 and then take his queen after he moves to h8. (if he goes h7 you force him away from the queen with bh7+) if he didnt take the rook, you go qe4 to threaten qxg6, only thing black can do to survive for a bit is sac their queen on f7
One time me and my stepfather played chess i had a plan to checkmate him, the plan went both was i sacrificed my rook, if he took it , 4-5 moves checkmate, if not( which what happened in the game) i mated him in 3 moves
just sacrificing pieces - Thomas Wilson Barnes sacrificing to take your opponent into deep forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one - Mikhail Tal
Lovely game to demonstrate sacrifices. Surprised to see the calculations as except rooks none of the other pieces were inline to attack king. Plz. let me know how to develop such visibility.
at 9:10, I move the white horse to e8, king forced to g8, again I sac the queen at h8, then rook to h5, and mate after black queen momentarily blocks rook. Not sure if that is more or fewer moves, but it is another option to achieve forced mate. Or maybe I missed something.
I saw Nh5 for the double check, but I couldn't find the mate because I kept trying to go Qg7+ instead of Qh8+. I got hyper focused on capturing his queen with Nxg7 after Qxg7.
I was so close to finding the mate in 6, I saw the right moves to checkmate if he moved the king but I forgot he could block the rook check with his queen
My chess app let me go capturing all his pieces at the same time it was setting up a checkmate while I was distracted. Another game I sacrificed a higher piece to get a better controlling position and it worked as in time I won.
(ChessVibes addresses this in a different comment thread. There's a pawn capture that Stockfish wants to hold the position and eventually win on material, and Qf8 was the last chance for this capture to be good. After Qf8, the threat is imminent and it's too late.)
I saw the following mating pattern: 1.Nxh5+,Kg8 2.Nf6+,Kg7 3.Ne8+,Kg8 4.Qxh8# Or black gives up the queen to try to prevent mate with 1.Nxh5+,Kg8 2.Nf6+,Qxf6 but then it simply gets too complicated for me to calculate the mate from position but it strongly resembles a mating net and white is up the queen after Q so it doesn't really matter if I can find the optimal mate or not, or so I tell myself to sleep at night.
Interesting this hasn't been answered yet, but technically no. This is a sideline in the Alekhine's Defense (1.e4 Nf6) that not many Black players enjoy, despite being better (kind of like the sacrifice later on)! After 2.Bc4?! Nxe4 is playable, but White has 3.Bxf7+! Kxf7 4.Qh5+ and White always has Qd5+ winning the knight back (if 4....Ke6? 5.Qg4+ does, as Black really doesn't want to run the king up the board). Material is even and Black lost castling rights. Engines enjoy Black, as they develop slightly faster anyway, but it's unpleasant for humans.
For some reason I was not considering taking the pawn with the knight. I was thinking knight E8 double check, then sacrificing queen for rook, then taking pawn with rook for another check, move knight back check, then either take queen with pawn or rook h7 check.
9:09 I'm counting mate in 4 1. Nxh5++ Kg8 2. Nf6+ Kg7 3. Ne8++ Kg8 4. Qxh8# now I'll unpause and see what I'm missing... Ah queens sacs are hard for me to wrap my head around, it's like gambling with your whole life's savings
This was beautiful! Like Picasso said: Learn the rules like a professional so you can break them like an artist.
Perfect quote for this video!
I need to learn how to break the rules.
Didnt know picasso played chess, nice!
Bruh. I watched this video 10 months ago and even commented but I still don’t know how to sacrifice. 😂😂 At least now I can understand the video.
I really dislike this quote because it's more about knowing the cause and effect. Especially in art. At the end of the day you combine "the rules" to create something fresh rather than break them.
Nelson: **Sacrifices rook and knight**
Engine: **NO**
I saw that🤣. That sidebar dipped like nobody's business
The engine was fine with the knight sacrifice for the most part, the evaluation didn't change much from that. It's the exchange sacrifice that it doesn't like, because it thinks it sees some move sequence that lets black defend. Does it exist? Yeah, probably. Doesn't mean the opponent's gonna find it though.
@@kellamyoshikage286
If you want the opening trap I played into to get that, I'll post the moves
The 1500elo bot abandoned the queen on B3 after that and let me trade a rook for it
@@dustinjames1268 give link of that game
Engine is just fool.
I usually sacrifice all those pieces by move 10, but I can't find the checkmate afterward...
Haha right?! Doesn't always work out this nicely for me either
@@ChessVibesOfficial no, he means he blunders the pieces :P
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 he knows
@@Harbo1003 then reverse sarcasm ftw :D
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 Yeah. The only difference between a sacrifice and a blunder is the move rating, but blunders don't have to be captures, so...
honestly, Nelson is a really good instructor. i have been following other channels like gotham or adigator, but their lessons.. are jut not pratical as nelson's. thank you Nelson!
I appreciate that!
I mean gotham is quite good too
@@asmodeus7672 but yeah Nelson understands and remembers the truffles of us lesser chess mortals.
@@asmodeus7672 Gotham doesn’t go as much in depth. He has a sense of humor that makes it watchable, but he’s not as practical.
What about Danya?
Nelson you are an excellent teacher! Clear and concise and you explain things well for those of us who are fairly new to chess without being condescending.
Indeed.
I find it funny how in the first half, as he's saying things like "so I decided to sacrifice this piece since it's necessary to open up the position" or "this move is very important for me", the bar just keeps dropping lower and lower like "tf you doing"
His opponent didn't defend optimally. If he did, Nelson wouldn't have shown us this game because he would have lost because of his basically unsound sac. But sometimes these sacrifices work, especially in something like blitz when decisions are made fast.
@@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 I wouldn't call the sacrifice unsound. Just because a 4000 ELO engine can see the optimal way to defend something doesn't mean that, given the time and circumstance, it's a bad move. That's the thing with engines, they're usually good for checking your games, but at some point you have to treat them like the homeless guy yelling advice at you from an underpass.
@@coreyeverett5500underpass homeless guys are often GM's so don't be tripping, take Dirty Joe's Advice
@@coreyeverett5500 you have a good point, but at the highest level, players are definitely good enough to be completely winning after that rook sac unless it’s a blitz game.
The main thing that differs GM’s from top engines is that the engines have slightly better moves consistently, but GM’s 99/100 times GM’s will take advantage of a -3 blunder
@@hankmoody666 I mean, of course they will. And there's basically tens of times a super GM sac'd a rook/queen etc to get a check mate. And yet, given an intel i9 10700K a computer will find a way to pull through. Something those GMs did not. That's kind of the difference, even if you're really good at the game you're not even close to being able to make the moves a computer does. That's kinda the point of the raw processing power. It's also the reason you have ''human moves'' and ''computer moves''. Because some computer moves end up with a "do this move and you'll get a mate in 39", which is something noone in this world is able to calculate.
I like the way you teach and explain why you did these moves. Thank you for these great content and information 👏 🙏 👍
I appreciate that!
Great game! 😮
*goes on to sacrifice queens for rooks because Nelson said so*
Lol as long as you go down swinging =P
Nelson you are a gifted teacher! Your mind controls your words as admirably as your play. Cheers.
I think that one of the most important sacrifice rules is: think of what will happen if the opponent won't accept the sacrifice. You may have thought of a great tactic which forces a win, if the opponent accepts the sac, but sometimes they can reject it and it backfires on you.
Example game: Légal vs Saint Brie:
1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 d6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bg4 5. Nxe5? Bxd1?? 6. Bxf7+ Ke7 7. Nd5#
Here, black did accept the sacrifice and lost, but if they played 5... Nxe5!, they would have been up a piece and have a good game.
Well done Nelson. Just subscribed! All your tips are well explained and something average players can grasp and possibly use as part of our improvement.
Best chess channel. You have a way of breaking down the education into structured, logical points, in a way that other chess educators can't. Others seem to be "all over the place", as it happens when most brilliant people teach. But you have a way to make things seem logical and structured. Your videos are a joy to watch.
After watching your videos I recently implemented two moves for a victory
1. Protected a queen with a knight for a checkmate setup
2. Sacrificed a rook to lure the queen away so that I can enforce the checkmate
Thanks for these amazing videos!
Very cool. This the middle game, is where I struggle the most. I've been playing chess since the early 80's. Great content. Thank you.
Do you have any tricks for figuring out when to sacrifice the king?
Lol - I guess when you run out of other pieces to sacrifice?!
Every game as early as you can. Unfortunately, it's not a legal move to do it all at once so you have to be committed to making it work.
Try GM Abish Mathew videos he took world champion Vishwanath Anand queen with the king.
I do it all the time, just without the part where you get sometimes back.
Always love sacrifices where the plan comes together. Paul Morphy was the absolute grandmaster of sacrifices
He really was!
High elo: sacrifice pieces
Low elo: hangs pieces
9:03 "But I had a really cool move here"
My brain: "Must be en passant"
"It involves a queen sacrifice"
My brain: "oh"
great video, very well explained. i have been struggling to get to the next level in chess for the last while, i feel im too defensive and dont fully understand that its ok to lose pieces, provided its done intelligently, so this type of video really helped!
7:53 you also blocked his king for retreating to king side, now he's there and king is exposed that's why engine says White is completely winning
K h 5 , K f 6, Ke8, Q h8, found in 4 moves
From the position before you made the sacrifice, stockfish’s best move is a4. If both players play Stockfish from that point on it transposes into a beautiful Queen and King vs Rook and King endgame where white uses check to capture the Rook and then uses their King and Queen together to mate Black.
The Rook sacrifice, on the other hand, just about loses by force when both players play the best moves. Funny thing is, if Black ignores your Knight sacrifice (which is the best move at that point) and plays a3, they are completely winning.
Nobody can see 27 moves ahead. Sorry.
Qf8 was a blunder by your opponent. Analysis immediately goes from -5.1 to +4.7.
beautiful game. thank you for that analysis!
Enjoyable and informative. Well done and thank you for all of your hard work. Love the channel
An inactive piece is as good as a captured piece.
In some cases yes!
You are a great presenter and your channel is brilliant. And you have literally the best music outro of any chess channel in history. Bravo 👏
Thanks! 🎶🎶
*Me, a professional at hanging pieces:* I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
Great content! Learning a lot from your videos.
Also, one of your games was covered by agadmator recently. Great game too!
Oh man! Too bad he didn't mention I have a channel, but hey I'll take it.
Nicely explained! One of my favourite chess channel
Trying to work our those checkmate patterns was really satisfying. Speaking of satisfying: what an awesome game!
My eyes lit up when I discovered Nxh5 very quickly. Rated 950, feels good to pick up on that
I'm curious why the eval drop so much when you sacrifice the exchange (R vs N)? What was the computer best move or your opponent best response to that sacrifice?
Good question! The computer liked all the next few moves until he played Qf8. Before Qf8 it was -4 for black if he played dxe5. It's such a weird move though because it opens up his king to discovered check with d6 from the bishop on c4, but then after Kf8 I don't really have an attack any more. Really tough move to find in a 3/0 blitz game though. And after Qf8 then I'm just winning at that point.
@@ChessVibesOfficial thanks!
though the sacrifice was suboptimal, you could have played rxh5, black can take it back with his rook or move ng6.
If he took the rook with his own, you check with nxh5 and then take his queen after he moves to h8. (if he goes h7 you force him away from the queen with bh7+)
if he didnt take the rook, you go qe4 to threaten qxg6, only thing black can do to survive for a bit is sac their queen on f7
Just what I needed
More ways to give my opponent material
Nice video! Stockfish hated that rook sac so much that he nicknamed you Tal haha
Beautiful lesson.Thank you very much.
Man, you played like a barbarian! I hope to model this. Nice win!
Thanks!
I remember the first time i sacrificed a horsie and a queen to make a bishop and rook checkmate.it feels amazing to calculate that far in a real game
One time me and my stepfather played chess i had a plan to checkmate him, the plan went both was i sacrificed my rook, if he took it , 4-5 moves checkmate, if not( which what happened in the game) i mated him in 3 moves
These sacrifices were pure genius and art. Fantastic job
That game was a perfect example of how beautiful chess can be. :)
Great teaching lesson. Thank you very much. Watch out next time I play chess!
just sacrificing pieces - Thomas Wilson Barnes
sacrificing to take your opponent into deep forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one - Mikhail Tal
This guy : sacrifice queen for checkmate
Meanwhile me* : sacrificed the queen for free
11:30 - that R+N checkmate on a border is often seen in atomic variant :)
Yet another excellent presentation. Thanks.
I am very scarer to sacrifice but I must destroy my scare!
What a wonderful game ! Thanks for sharing it
Thanks a lot !
Beautiful game! You went all 19th century there 👌❤️
Great, underrated videos!
just amazing. it is truly art. love your videos
Alekhine and Tal would have loved this game
When you sac something other than the queen
Engine:what are you doing
When you sac your queen
Engine:Yusss!
4:33 i like how stockfish throws up after Rxh5 lol
That was a crazy mate. Awesome video
This was very informative, thank you
Lovely game to demonstrate sacrifices. Surprised to see the calculations as except rooks none of the other pieces were inline to attack king. Plz. let me know how to develop such visibility.
nelson: i had a reason
stockfish: deadlost for white
Been here since 10k subs cant wait for 1m!!
Love your vids, you are such an amazing teacher and your vids are easy to follow compared to other Chess channels!
Glad you think so!
A sacrifice is either a sacrifice, a blunder or a brilliant move.
at 9:10, I move the white horse to e8, king forced to g8, again I sac the queen at h8, then rook to h5, and mate after black queen momentarily blocks rook. Not sure if that is more or fewer moves, but it is another option to achieve forced mate. Or maybe I missed something.
Very Cool Planing, Smart Indeed, Thanks Big N ... M.
saw the mate 4 moves out im happy now
I saw Nh5 for the double check, but I couldn't find the mate because I kept trying to go Qg7+ instead of Qh8+. I got hyper focused on capturing his queen with Nxg7 after Qxg7.
im so proud of myself for instantly finding the mate in 6
I was so close to finding the mate in 6, I saw the right moves to checkmate if he moved the king but I forgot he could block the rook check with his queen
You teached me alot thanks!
4:40, when you sacrifice your knight, the evaluation bar says , you are losing,. Opponent missed that
Hey just saw your game on Agadmators channel. Very nice.
Thanks buddy! Didn't even know someone had submitted it!
@@ChessVibesOfficial you have good subscribers/students.
My chess app let me go capturing all his pieces at the same time it was setting up a checkmate while I was distracted. Another game I sacrificed a higher piece to get a better controlling position and it worked as in time I won.
That moment when a sacrifice was brilliant, but you played a blunder in the next move
this feels like a strategy game anime
I too sacrificed my queen, bishop and rook in a game once and got really nicely checkmated.
5:39 nelson is used to drawing arrows in lichess
very beautiful game. Tx for sharing
Instantly spotted the double check, followed by Qh8+... I expected black to resign as he knew he was lost.
I actually already know how to sac my queen very well. I dont know why the computer calls it a “blunder”
Your instincts were good! Very nice checkmating attack...
6:55 - Whooooooa hold up, Stockfish haaaaates Qf8, what's the story yo?
(ChessVibes addresses this in a different comment thread. There's a pawn capture that Stockfish wants to hold the position and eventually win on material, and Qf8 was the last chance for this capture to be good. After Qf8, the threat is imminent and it's too late.)
Alekhine proved: the power and ability of pieces and pawns are more important than its point value.
That was awesome!
Thanks!
Show a positional sacrifice of a rook for a knight or bishop!
You are the best one explain sacrifice as a strategy not tactic...thanks too much
Good work Nelson
Stockfish had a nervous breakdown during this game
Nice content!
Appreciate it!
That was awesome!!! What a great game!!!
I saw the following mating pattern:
1.Nxh5+,Kg8 2.Nf6+,Kg7 3.Ne8+,Kg8 4.Qxh8#
Or black gives up the queen to try to prevent mate with
1.Nxh5+,Kg8 2.Nf6+,Qxf6 but then it simply gets too complicated for me to calculate the mate from position but it strongly resembles a mating net and white is up the queen after Q so it doesn't really matter if I can find the optimal mate or not, or so I tell myself to sleep at night.
Aside from the wonderful video, wasn’t there a pawn blunder on e4 at the beginning since you left it undefended when you took out the bishop instead?
Interesting this hasn't been answered yet, but technically no. This is a sideline in the Alekhine's Defense (1.e4 Nf6) that not many Black players enjoy, despite being better (kind of like the sacrifice later on)! After 2.Bc4?! Nxe4 is playable, but White has 3.Bxf7+! Kxf7 4.Qh5+ and White always has Qd5+ winning the knight back (if 4....Ke6? 5.Qg4+ does, as Black really doesn't want to run the king up the board). Material is even and Black lost castling rights. Engines enjoy Black, as they develop slightly faster anyway, but it's unpleasant for humans.
The engine is going crazy after the SACRIFICES
High-level checkmate. Bravo
3:45 if he just moved the pawn forward instead of trading wouldn't he have completely blocked the right side of the board?
For some reason I was not considering taking the pawn with the knight. I was thinking knight E8 double check, then sacrificing queen for rook, then taking pawn with rook for another check, move knight back check, then either take queen with pawn or rook h7 check.
Neat. This shows the power of double checks.
thank you this helped me how to attack better
9:09 I'm counting mate in 4 1. Nxh5++ Kg8 2. Nf6+ Kg7 3. Ne8++ Kg8 4. Qxh8# now I'll unpause and see what I'm missing... Ah queens sacs are hard for me to wrap my head around, it's like gambling with your whole life's savings
10:19 knight f6 check can do same thing isnt it?
nahh u would be rook down then