TOP 5 MISTAKES GROWING MUSHROOMS: common pitfalls to avoid while cultivating mushrooms
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I started, still am, in my garage. I use three 4x8 tents. One is my sterile work space and the others are fruiting rooms. I do all my hot none sterile work in the remaining space in the garage as well as store most of my supplies in there. It works well for me and is producing enough fruits to cover my mortgage throughout most of the year.
Do you have IG or FB? I'd love to chat!
That's why I want a house and not an apartment , I barely have any room at all to do what I need to here
Donn bialik is an ATF agent don't respond 😂
@@anotherguy9402 bro 😂
Watch it in 1.5 playback speed. You're welcome
He's absolutely right in the beginning about taking your time observing and getting familiar, there is alot to take in.
Always great information Gary...have always wanted to grow mushrooms and am diving in as a retirement project...your channel is a great reliable resource! Thank-you!
The Advice on the macro effect of inefficiency in business is amazing!
I can't thank you enough, I just recently found mycology and am very passionate about it. It is giving me a hobby and something to look forward to. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. It's nice to hear it from a respectable source that I can trust and not just some dweeb on RUclips with the latest bullshit tek job. Your a boss Gary thanks
Thanks for passing down your knowledge Gary!
I’m been doing it for a little over a month now and still starting off small until I confident enough to go big. Btw just subscribed and have seen your videos before. Your videos are very informative.
Thanks from Thailand :) ... I appreciate your helpful pointers
Really enjoy you're vids.very thorough and learning alot
You are awesome!! Thanks for all the tips.
Awesome video, learning a lot from you
I'd love a time lapse video of you cleaning everything. That'd be a cool. Thanks for the info.
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Deep Cleaning The Shroom Room: The best way to keep your mushroom farm clean from contamination
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Thanks mate👍
Great advice 🍄🇦🇺
Nice job gary!
Thanks for all those advices
It's great to hear some basic tips; I just started but I'm fighting the urge to get ahead of myself...
Thanks for following along - MUSHLOVE
I didn’t think that would be a problem but in my gut i knew, I’m about to start so now i know!
Outstanding advice!
great advice thank you!
Thanks for the great info
Fail first .. fail many times, because that’s how you learn. THEN level up once you know more of the does and don’ts ✌🏼🍄
Thanks for ur time, good video
Ur a vary fun guy lol thanks for the vids man
Love this! Although my buckets work well and I have a system to keep them clean (soap followed by wiping with bleach) and it works it is labor intensive. This is great advice. Look forward to more!
Thanks for watching - glad to hear someone has success with those! I have fruited from burlap bags before which are much more eco-friendly but the yields were so low and it was so labor intensive that it was not worth it. I imagine the feeling of re-using containers can be just as satisfying because of it’s eco-friendly nature - a labor of love cleaning those! Mushlove!
I never half ass anything and am diving off into the deep end
Great video!!
Amazing video bro! Thanks. BTW, where did you get that poster in the back! I’d like to have one
Thanks for watching! I got it as a gift but check out the ETSY market place there are a lot of neat mushroom stuff there 👍🙂
How about a more in depth vid on breeding and breeding in favorable characteristics? Btw love your channel you are the most knowledgeable person I have seen on u.t.
Breeding mushrooms simplified: broad overview how to breed mushrooms from spores
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Can you please do an in-depth video about agar isolates. And also different mycelial growth on agar.
I seem to get random results on my transfers, without finding a pattern.
A lot of rhizo transfers turn Fluffy, oxygen deprived? 🤔
Yeah same thing for me too
Selecting phenotypes and sectoring mushroom mycelium on agar (breeding mushrooms from spores)
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I subscribed thank you
I grew a few kits last year and then dove in head first, but I'm pacing myself. I ordered some "tongue depressor" sticks that were inoculated with mycelium and grew those out on really low tek agar plates made from sanitized plastic packaging materials that i had/have an excess of that will fit the sticks.
I did recently get a trichoderma contam for the first time, but I still have lots of non-contam'd library samples on agar and spawn, which is what i focused on all winter instead of actually fruiting anything. I'm pretty sure I was just not using hydrogen peroxide enough and some subset spawn jars may have been in a cardboard box that probably contained onions at one point. D'oh! lol
Lesson learned. The last agar transfers I did (some from transfers of the contam'd samples to save them) seem to be clean with better practices and way more H2O2.
do you share samples from your library?
Right on
can you just make video on straw oyster mush production
Great videos. love you lab working level. do you ship cultures to europe / spain?
Only ship
within the US I really like Kaizen cordyceps he is located in Europe I would ask around until I can get the proper paperwork in order to ship overseas
we now ship internationally etsy.com/shop/freshfungi
Thanks Bro!
I'm in Aurora, I'd love to learn more about marketing the mushrooms around the city....👍🏻🌄
Good video subject👍
Nice shirt !!
Great content! What is your take on Ozone as a sanitizer? Saludos desde Mexico!
Thanks for following! I have used ozone in the past with plant tissue culture and was impressed by it’s efficacy. However, some of the plants suffered with developing lesions and spots on the tissue so we stopped using it. I have not explored ozone with mushroom cultivation but my feelings are that it is indiscriminate and can hurt whatever is in the room including people and plants/fungi. It might be effective between batches to clean grow rooms etc. but would not recommend regular usage during cultivation - just my opinion I have not tested since the initial experimentation about 6 yrs ago.
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi Thanks, I totally agree with your clear explanation. Ozone must be used ONLY to sanitize, never with humans, animals or live tissue. Love your chanel. thanks for all the knowledge
Hey man, thanks for the nice content. I was wondering since one of your points is ' dont cut back on sterile techinique', What is your opinion on the low tech farming grocycle is teaching. Can this work or do you think this is a no go for starting off? Grtz
In other words, if properly managed, can a farm work without sterile technique? Like choosing the right varities that colonize fast, in order to get a cashflow without large investment... Lime pateurisation is one of the techniques they use i guess, in combination with fast colonizing oysters
it can work yes but you will soon see how inefficient it is - with low tech growing methods you are trading energy, man hours and lots of contaminated substrate for up front investment to do it more efficiently with sterile techniques. It might be reasonable to learn this way and do it small scale, then once you get your feet wet upgrade where it pays off most. It happens in nature all the time so I don’t want to knock it but there are better and more profitable ways - Good Luck!
I found a source for sawdust and wood chips however I am unsure if it is hardwood or not. Is there a way to tell by looking at the wood/sawdust? When you say you clean all the time with 15% bleach/hydrogen peroxide, do you mean you clean everything that often? is it 15% bleach mixed with hydrogen peroxide or is it 15% bleach to water OR hydrogen peroxide? Trying to gauge how clean I need to be for my grow/incubation areas. I'm local to Denver as well! Thank you.
I usually do small test batches with new saw dust to tell if the mycelium will take - I clean first with bleach, let it dry and wipe clean with hydrogen peroxide. Avoid mixing these two chemicals - follow guidelines for the cdphe and department of Ag there is a lot of info about FDA guidelines etc.
We use sawdust that's a mixture of hardwood and softwood and it works great. You however need to supplement the sawdust to maximize your yields
Do you have a video that explains breeding and risks of senescence associated with copied clones?
there is a whole playlist on this subject check out “breeding mushrooms from spores” It’s a lot to go over
Anyone else had to battle with trichoderma mold and best ways to avoid it?
What happened if you eat raw mushroom where was rose mold (neurospore)?
Thug lifin with the cotton dust connection. lol
So to maintain healthy genetics over time, I would simply take a tissue sample from really desired fruits and place them on agars? Would spore prints be necessary to take so I get a good mix? I think of this as seed saving. I know, for example, to keep pumpkins genetically clean, you are to save seeds, not only from one pumpkin, but dozens, or 100,s, I am not sure of the exact number, but there is a number with every different type of fruit. Any of your knowledge appreciated😃🌈🤙
Yes spores are like “seeds” and can create newer stronger genetics and tissue is a clone so will produce consistent results but will slowly degrade over time
Fresh from the Farm Fungi LLC thank you for the information
10:00 Where did you get the idea that mushrooms senesce? I know stamets mentions it but others like Peter McCoy in "radical Mycology" basically says that mycelium doesn't senesce(at least common gourmet mushrooms) and the loss of vigor can be attributed to enzyme deficiencies among other things and not senescence. If senescence was a thing huge clonal colonies of certain mushrooms could not exist, hell certains old strains in the mushroom cultivation world wouldn't be possible either. I have read good arguments for both but there is really no clear cut answer as far as i can tell. Do you have any good info on the topic of senescence that i could read?
Generally, the cells genetic structures (DNA) will break down over time due to natural imperfections during replication of cells and the random chance of mutation that is not corrected for by other cellular components. The amount and time that a strain will senesce depends on its own genetics, environment and yes there may be enzyme deficiencies because of the narrow range of nutrients that a culture receives in vitro. But even in the wild this will happen and it is corrected for by breeding (spore dispersal) and natural selection - variances in environment that favor new genetics or vice-versa. There are methods for maintaining viability of cultures for long term that I have not discussed but may do a video in the future👍 Thanks for watching ❤️🍄
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi I know it's logical to assume eventually every cell will lose the ability to effectively replicate because of DNA degradation and mutacions, this seems to be the norm in unitary organisms(vertebrates,insects,etc) but modular organisms do not necessarily undergo systemic senescence, and do not segregate somatic from germ line cells.
We know that there are mycelium(for example honey mushroom) that have at the very least negligible senescence because their mycelium network all sharing the same dna can get huge and live for thousands of years not showing any signs of slowing down, and there are many other examples in plants like "pando" and many other organisms like algae.
There are fungi that do show clear signs of senescence being loss of vigor and ultimately death among other things, but this seems to be an evolved trait where the mycelium expends all it's resources for greater reproductive success, kinda like monocarpic plants, or for a better example some coprophilous fungi that live on a resource that will inevitably run out so there is no selective pressure for it to live past a certain time frame after reproduction.
Imo common cultivated mushrooms like oysters don't seem to experience senescence, at least not to a degree and in a timeframe that would affect the mushroom cultivator.
In my experience i have been expanding the same spawn of oyster for close to 2 years unrefrigerated and have yet to notice any loss of vigor in the particular strain, so for me it's hard to believe that a loss of vigor after 20 or even 50 agar transfers can be attributed to senescence or ageing.
If you think about it any strain you have probably came from a guy who cloned it from a wild specimen who sent it to a lab that grew it out and when to another lab that did the same thing ... etc... to finally a guy that makes spawn that has been using the same slant for years that sold you your spawn. In all that process i can't imagine anything less than 20 agrar transfers for that mycelium in reality probably way more.
So i don't think commonly cultivated mushrooms eventually die though i am open opposing evidence, but i do think that conditions like enzyme deficiency could be real and maybe even the reason people think mushrooms senesce.
May i ask where did you come upon this idea specifically for MUSHROOMS? Could it be one of Paul Stamets books? Because i think in one part he talks about some lions mane showing signs of losing vigor in as little as 8 transfers, if senescence was to blame we wouldn't have 20 year old lion's mane strains that still produce great flushes no matter how well preserved they are kept(cooled liquid nitrogen or whatnot).
Can you use coffee grounds as substrate?
Also, I've started growing but I simply cannot get my shrooms to pin. I just purchased a humidity gage and a mini tent for humidity but they have not arrived yet. I have had these in my bedroom with the ac on and at first, I think they dried out because I had the lids slightly off. Now I'm not sure what's wrong as the humidity is fine, but im not sure about fae. I cant figure out how to strike a balance and get these guys to pin, I think I may just toss them. I only got one small side pin, but im not sure how to get a good environment. Any suggestions? I live in the midwest with only one ac, its generally around 80 degrees inside unless i have the ac on...
Sorry for all the questions, its been super frustrating.
We teach in person classes and could explain all this in detail - it’s a lot to cover in a comment but my tips are be patient, learn from success and maybe get a grow kit that is ready to fruit this will help answer a lot of those issues - MUSHLOVE
It took me two kits before i figured out how to have enough humidity and air flow.
Dose anyone have advice on what to do is your mushrooms are in a shoebox type box and growing pins on the sides and bottoms of the box? Should I flip it? Move it to a bigger box? I’m confused on if I should do anything or not but there’s about 20 on the sides that might not make it to the top. One pin already has, it’s kinda mushed up between the side of the box, that’s the only one that’s made it past the substrate though. I see them on the sides and bottom, there’s a little bit of space between the edges and that’s where the pins are thriving but they’re growing downward and sideways not upwards.
next time put a liner in there, as the substrate shrinks it creates a micro climate that produces pins on the sides but if you have a liner it shrinks with the substrate and prevents this - happy growing!
Does multispore LC compete with each other while growing in grain/ substrate. Am I getting 1000's of genetics near the end...or just a dozen that never pin lol....
it may be that one out competes the rest and is finicky or sensitive to environmental factors. There can be many mutations in LC spore solutions so it’s hard to say for sure. Best to repeat many times to avoid this
Is Denver high in competition for mushrooms farms like this? I know you have one and have seen a bunch of them...
there are a dozen or so and some
come and go over the years
@Fresh from the Farm Fungi a dozen doesn't sound like much competition in a place as large as Denver... I'm moving there soon and with some luck I'll be expirementing with launching a small mushroom farm. Hopefully I get to meet you someday
Hey I know you did a video on positive a change so when growing fruit in a tank do you need positive air Exchange
yes unless the tank is very large or you are seeking long stemmy mushrooms
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi my bad it's supposed to say tent not tank
You know what stop Cox
He reminds me of honey I shrunk the kids
How about getting spores to germinate
Next!
Is your channel about magic ones or just mushrooms
My grain bags are all growing tiny shrooms, but hasn’t become close to being mycelium. There small and on side buried in rye grain in bags. B+ . Should I mix w/ substrate or ignore? Tks
if it grows out on grains they will become deformed but they may have a chance for bulk still if they are just pinning
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi Thank you!
What are some good places to get liquid culture for psilocybin?
Im not sure if vendors sell LC but spores you can get at a lot of shops for “microscopy” uses
Hi could you help me, im trying to find a video showing me how to remove mycellium when you have too much of it,and is it possible to move it to another medium to grow it instead of wasting it. I bought a grow at home kit, i live in the UK and for once we had a slight heatwave which has sped up its growth...a little too much. Its my first time.
I don’t have a video on that but you can keep it running on damp cardboard, agar, or more substrates there is some prep-work involved
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi Thanks for the reply. How would you remove it from its current box which i think its overfilled?
How do I avoid getting mold inside the bag of my fruiting blocks ? I got a good first flush and was getting a great second flush, then BAM cobweb mold. Bs
possibly getting it when cutting the bag open make sure you sterilize the blade
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But I'm both impatient and lazy.
I'm totally going to ignore this one so that I have to work harder and make the job take longer to do. 😁
But for real though, is there anyone that ultimately doesn't succumb to this at some point. I suppose some sort of Martha or other tent for contained experimentation could work out. Small batch.
#2 mushroom growers spiraling outta control, lol it just sounds epic.
I have seen it many times - the market decides desired volumes not the grower
Denver is the shiznit
How do we avoid senescence?
How to start breeding your own? Can it be spores from a bought strain?
I'll recommend it should be spores from a bought strain to help you speed up the process and start breeding.
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Is it alright to have your central air on when you're growing inside?
I run my furnace fan constantly when doing lab work just make sure you have clean duct work and change out filters regularly
as for fruiting, Try to make the whole air exchange and environment compartmentalized and separate from the rest of the inside - exaust outside for sure
My shitake mushroom log has an amber sap and green mold on it... I guess I've done it totally wrong?
yes I would start ovee
Im not sure what i should do with my hands
Can any variety of palm leaf be used?
I believe so for oysters
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi awesome thanks, I'll give it a try
cant you use a UV light to sterilize? Also it would be way more helpful if, instead of generalizing, you would actually mentioned which brands or companies should have better genetics.
you can sterilize surfaces with uV but it will not penetrate substrates. I don’t know every brand out there - I can recommend fungi perfecti, north spore, mycelium emporium, amacel, and some other youtubers out there.
How to produce best quality mushroom culture in my own
watch the playlist “breeding mushrooms from spores” ruclips.net/p/PLFfnF_UJ5WgKRxZZbixO27fxOi9mEtmTv
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why aremy shrooms turning black when drying
probably doing it too fast or too crowded or maybe they are contaminated with yeast - try washing them lightly, patting dry and spacing them out more
not a world on marketing, consumer market, population size, transportation distances, storage, etc
that depends on where you are
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi good point, although wouldn't there be a general guideline as to what size population center is needed to market a steady supply of mushroom? would 500K population be the bare minimum? or can it be any lower? assuming most north american cities are similar in terms of demographics and consumption patterns. thanks.
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I can get a 50 lb bag of hard wood pellets for 6$
that is a decent price
What's the elevation where you are at? You seem out of breath.
I am at 6000 ft. This is one of my earlier videos just doing one take and learning how to do them - the info is there and it’s solid advice. I think breathing in between thoughts is important hah
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi Lol, 6000 feet is up there for someone like me who lives by the ocean. I understand what you mean because sometimes I get the same way and I get so excited I forget to breath when trying to get me thoughts out.
I remember being in the mountains in Wyoming and it was hard to catch my breath just standing still, then I tried to ski. 😂
I think my spores are dead, they are all clumped together.
you should shake them in solution to separate or use a streak method to separate the spores
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi they are in a syringe - I left that out.
*thank you for responding*
Clumping in a syringe is normal. I bet your spores are fine. Knock up some sterile agar or jars and you will know.
The video just started and then you put ads in it wtf
sorry I will fix - the ads sections was randomly selected
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi I still watched it
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi I did some popcorn tech 4 days ago now I have a fluff ball that’s really tiny growing on one of my kernels
It's important that you stop saying "impor'ent". It's bad English for a smart guy
And saying umm after every sentence...lol
Links to your videos with perfect “English” grammar and flow would be great!!
Show us how an expert should do it, since you two asshats are perfect 🤩
Shut it. We want to hear about growing mushrooms, not some little bitch criticizing his grammer.