Dude, even The Beatles used a version of drum samples, When they would be deep into the track, the drums would start to fade a bit because of how many times they would combine and bounce tracks together, they would record an extra snare track only, to get it back a bit.
Just love the intro! Hey buddy...I'm one of those guys!! You made me laugh...you really did. Colt, I am way over 45......but as a humble old one-man-band.......doin gigs in little bars/restaurants.... squeaking away on my clarinet..honking on my sax...my right hand thinks it's Oscar Peterson on the keys..left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...I tootle my flute...and I croak out old Sinatra tunes with a smokers cough. Been re-doing my old GM midi/Sound Canvas tracks with VST's etc..........and for my drummer......I am using "Orange Tree (free)Samples - Funk kit".......in "Sitala" a free sampler. So it would appear that I am catching up!! Oh!...the Beatles?? I saw George Martin in the mixing room....(through that ominous glass divide)..chatting to the lead singer, as I was setting up my kit. He wasn't involved in the production, hell he owned the place........but strangely enough.....when the (unsuccessful) single was released....I had been replaced with a Linn Drum!!! Red beans and lentils from Kaapstad.
This was a really cool tutorial, the songs I usually mix only use drum samples but I’ll definitely try out some of these tricks with layering different samples!
@@Songwriter376 no, because they didn't *know* them. The Beatles have always been innovative. They embraced new technology. That's what made them so influentual. They would have embraced autotune and samples, too. Not as a crutch (which is how you're obviously thinking of it), but as artistic tools
I often take a few one shots of the kick and snare during recording to blend with the drum tracks. Only have them come in at the higher end of the velocity triggers so they blend naturally. Love this kind of content! Especially when it helps reaffirm what I’ve been doing for a few years haha
From what the title says before I watch this, I'm sure this is gonna be a blast. Lesgooooo! Custom drum samples are the best. You can hear a certain snare sound on many of Andy Wallace's mixes. Go make samples people!
Hey Colt, great video! I was wondering how you managed to achieve this kind of drum sound. The snare sounds very non-wirey and I really enjoy this! Did you keep the wires on the snare very tight? Any dampening? Especially in regards to room and overhead mics I'd very curious about your drum setup! Thanks!
That trigger to reverb technique is awesome. So many times I’ve got that horrid hi-hat getting into my snare reverb. Not no more! Plus, get off my lawn!
Awesome video Colt! Would be cool to go over how you like to setup and edit drum tracks. Specifically how you deal with the delay between all the mics and polarity. Do you slide the room mics forward to match the direct mics for example or do you leave them however many ms behind. Things like that and just general editing tips setting up for mixing etc
Love the sounds keep up the great work have a question can I down these and bring them into Steven slate drum software I'm running Reaper as my recording software thanks
Thank you Colt! This is very informative and I will definitely try to implement this into my Cubase workflow. Rick Beato talked about Andy Wallace using samples and compared several of the songs. Really interesting. Great job!
Cheers from Texas! 🤘😎🤘 Great video! Your methods are top notch yet attainable faster; since you've done the R&D for us heh-heh! Always a pleasure, Michael Francis
I wish I could offer some constructive critiquing to help you out, mang.... I wouldn't even know where to start, in all honesty. But hey, if you're killing it in life, the way that your video backgrounds make it appear, or the sponsorship with sweetwater, good for you! You've obviously done something right, at one point or another. So, who am I to say another word....? All the best to you & yours! -M.A.
Amazing content thank you!! So when you have that new aux track of the original snare and sample snare blended, acting as your singular snare track, do you then include that new aux snare in your drum group and remove the two other snare tracks? Like if you were to do drum bus mixing, would that new aux track be included in that bus excluding the other two tracks, or are all three tracks included to the bus and whatever plugins you use to mix the drums is happening to all three?
I got two questions for you my friend. 1) are those Andrew's trio6's on your 11s ?😃. 2) what's proping up your apple keyboard? 🍎 love your videos 📹 ❤. Peace ✌🏾
LOL love it man! What a great video walk down memory lane.I Remember When sound replacer came out for pro tools,O my goodness! Now that was a game changer for me. Things have really evolved over the years But still the same concept, It works and it’s great.I remember sampling every single kit .And I think Sound replace Only wanted four hits ..Thank you for making this video man it was great. Canada love you \,,/
Have you every considered releasing a one shot library. I have been looking for a good studio drum kit library but must are part of software packages. I am looking for one shot wav files of studio kits for personal uses.
Great video Colt! Do you find a lot of issues with phase when doing this technique?? Do you ever have to commit the trigger track so you can phase align it?
Even though Trigger 2 is supposed to phase-align the samples, you really want to check every hit is alright. I always render / bounce my trigger track and there's ALWAYS some hits I have to manually correct.
for one shots you could skip the part where you create the new folder in the library and load it from trigger2 browser and drag the wav file from the bounce folder to the trigger track
Hello and great video..thx Question: didn’t you encounter phase issue with sampling the same sound? And once it’s cut at a certain location and inserted into Trigger, how does one know there is no phase cancellation automatically? Surely phase issues are a hit or miss with this process?
Hey Colt, could you please do a video on your most used Pro Tools keyboard commands? Especially that fade thing you did etc. I been using a Daw for 27 years and I don’t even know ONE! Not even one
Hay Colt, Cool Video, I do something close but with actual samples from a library and ensure they are phase aligned.. Why 2 different Focal's in the room. 11's and the Trio6's. Have you won the lotto and added the 6's to you collection?
Hey great video! Do you think superior drummer 3 is better than Trigger 2? I’m trying to decide which would be better. I am a drummer and I like creating my own samples but want to bring drum triggering into my mix arsenal your advice on this is greatly appreciated!
Thanks for great video! Using samples from the same drumkit is a really good idea ) I have one question: snare can have different sounds like center hit, side hit and rimshot. If I have a standart ta-ga-ta-ga drum break, first and third hits are side or rimshot, second and fourth are senterhits. If I have sample in parallel - it cancels the difference in the sound of the snare. If I mute the sample and compensate by volume - the snare sounds thinner during the break. So what is a correct solution in such situation?
Doesn’t that space in front of your sample put it off time? Also, too much hat in the snare totally screws this up doesn’t it? As far as not sounding sampled.
Solid, brother. Having that many drums samples, it might benifit your wallet by offering them or a collection of them for sale. The Colt Capperrune Drum Collection. Cha Ching! 🤘🏻🇺🇸🤘🏻
Beat me to the punch with the opening! But I have to say I dig your videos. Never too long, right to the point, great gear, great insight. Also, the more I listen back to my favourite 80's tones, tell me you don't suspect a sample on some of those snares? Dokken, Motley Crue etc... that snare sounds pretty damn consistent and perfect each hit. What I hate now is the quantization and the snare sounding like it is a tom. Add that to the loudness wars and it just makes for fatigue and no spark.
They just finished the break in period. I’m waiting on a set of pucks so I can start putting them in rotation, hoping to have the video up in a couple weeks
@@ColtCapperrune awesome! Love it, great channel, looking forward to it. I'm going to buy either the 6 or the 11 in a few weeks and so far I haven't seen a review comparing those two
To avoid phase shift to the sampled snare, when summed with the raw snare, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to boost with harmonic distortion (using Spectre for instance) and dip the unwanted resonance with linear EQ, to get an even better sounding sample?
@@eddiecarrizales sure, the Trigger plugin doesn’t add any phase, due to delay compensation, but when you do EQ moves to a parallel track in this sort of way, it adds delay to the trigger signal, which turns the two tracks out of phase with each other at some points. Not a huge deal, but everything that can be improved makes a difference.
What is a main difference in using samples from session vs already processed generic samples you can buy(considering that sample is just a layer)Thanks
Using samples from the same kit is what I prefer because it’s the same drummer and same kit. If you don’t it’s kind of like having a pro drummer in 1 of the best studios ever play on your song
Shouldn't this video be called 'Working with drum samples'? I watched the first minutes and several parts beyond, but didn't see any recommendations for or mentioning what samples you use. In case I missed it someone might add a timestamp? I do realize now there's a difference between sampled sounds and sampled tracks/clips.
Dude your Pro Tools workflow is killing me. Why don't you have the multi-tool on for your clicks? And why are you making fades by highlighting then hitting Cmd+F instead of clicking and dragging from the top corner of the region? 😩
Believe it or not I actually have reasons for all of those things, but it’s too much to put in a comment. Maybe I should make a video on it. The multi tool is the most infuriating thing on earth for me
My dude. This was a 20 minute masterclass. Respect.
Oh I love that reverb trick at the end. So cool.
holy crap that last tip about the reverb is freaking gold!
You just changed my life!
Dude, even The Beatles used a version of drum samples, When they would be deep into the track, the drums would start to fade a bit because of how many times they would combine and bounce tracks together, they would record an extra snare track only, to get it back a bit.
Sampling the current drum sound.. amazing. Never thought of it that way!
Just love the intro! Hey buddy...I'm one of those guys!!
You made me laugh...you really did.
Colt, I am way over 45......but as a humble old one-man-band.......doin gigs in little bars/restaurants.... squeaking away on my clarinet..honking on my sax...my right hand thinks it's Oscar Peterson on the keys..left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...I tootle my flute...and I croak out old Sinatra tunes with a smokers cough.
Been re-doing my old GM midi/Sound Canvas tracks with VST's etc..........and for my drummer......I am using "Orange Tree (free)Samples - Funk kit".......in "Sitala" a free sampler.
So it would appear that I am catching up!!
Oh!...the Beatles?? I saw George Martin in the mixing room....(through that ominous glass divide)..chatting to the lead singer, as I was setting up my kit.
He wasn't involved in the production, hell he owned the place........but strangely enough.....when the (unsuccessful) single was released....I had been replaced with a Linn Drum!!!
Red beans and lentils from Kaapstad.
Awesome tip Colt sample triggers verb love it!
Great video, trigger to reverb trick is awesome!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Love it, Colt!!!!
Interesting and clever approach, nice video dude.
Fantastic trick & sound. Thanks…..
Fantastic video, I'll probably watch this a handful of times. Really appreciate the time you put in to this one, super helpful!
This was a really cool tutorial, the songs I usually mix only use drum samples but I’ll definitely try out some of these tricks with layering different samples!
Learned something new. Great video!
Beatles didn't use drum samples and autotune only because they didn't have them. Great video!
Haha fair point!
I agree with you
I think the point is that the drums sound great without samples.
…because they didn’t need them.
@@Songwriter376 no, because they didn't *know* them. The Beatles have always been innovative. They embraced new technology. That's what made them so influentual. They would have embraced autotune and samples, too. Not as a crutch (which is how you're obviously thinking of it), but as artistic tools
I often take a few one shots of the kick and snare during recording to blend with the drum tracks. Only have them come in at the higher end of the velocity triggers so they blend naturally. Love this kind of content! Especially when it helps reaffirm what I’ve been doing for a few years haha
loved this man! more on drum mixing tips please!
Even it has been 8 months since you posted this, this is very good stuff! Thank you Colt for this impressive trick !
From what the title says before I watch this, I'm sure this is gonna be a blast. Lesgooooo! Custom drum samples are the best. You can hear a certain snare sound on many of Andy Wallace's mixes. Go make samples people!
It really is the best way to do it!
this was most excellent !!
Yeah do we get a test in both speaker types 🎉. Great video, thanks.
Gosh... We need a video of you recording that drums. How did you do that? It sounds amazing!!!
Awesome video as usual Colt!!!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Great Idea to trigger the reverb just with the snare sample! 👍🏻 Will try that with my current mix later 🤟
Wow never thought of using slate trigger that way. Later this week I'll gonna be recording drums so I'm totally gonna try this method 🙌🏼
Thanks Colt
Those two stacked up Focal monitors are one big flex xD nice video btw
Foreshadowing 🤘🏻😜🤘🏻
Good content. Thanks, mate!
Wicked kool bruh ! Dig it. Thanks for that. cheers !
Great video! Extremely useful techniques, ty!
I just learned about TRIGGERS ! Woooo !
I really only use drum machines, and virtual drums, still very cool to hear what YOU did here- thank you ! makes me think !
Hey Colt, great video!
I was wondering how you managed to achieve this kind of drum sound. The snare sounds very non-wirey and I really enjoy this! Did you keep the wires on the snare very tight? Any dampening? Especially in regards to room and overhead mics I'd very curious about your drum setup!
Thanks!
That trigger to reverb technique is awesome.
So many times I’ve got that horrid hi-hat getting into my snare reverb.
Not no more!
Plus, get off my lawn!
So helpful and so detailed. Thanks Colt, you have the absolute best videos.
Probably the funniest intro! 🤣
Awesome! Good timing, this is exactly what I've been working on. Killer tips I'll be implementing right away. Thanks, man.
Super helpful video. Thanks a lot
Awesome video Colt!
Would be cool to go over how you like to setup and edit drum tracks. Specifically how you deal with the delay between all the mics and polarity. Do you slide the room mics forward to match the direct mics for example or do you leave them however many ms behind. Things like that and just general editing tips setting up for mixing etc
Thanks! So I go over most, or all of that in the video below!
ruclips.net/video/qIw86ggPISk/видео.html
Love the sounds keep up the great work have a question can I down these and bring them into Steven slate drum software I'm running Reaper as my recording software thanks
Thank you Colt! This is very informative and I will definitely try to implement this into my Cubase workflow. Rick Beato talked about Andy Wallace using samples and compared several of the songs. Really interesting. Great job!
Cheers from Texas!
🤘😎🤘
Great video!
Your methods are top notch yet attainable faster; since you've done the R&D for us heh-heh!
Always a pleasure,
Michael Francis
Sick video🔥🔥
Great info as usual Colt, top job again buddy.
Thanks for watching!
Hey hey. Let's ease up on Mr Beato!!!
Great video - thanks man
I wish I could offer some constructive critiquing to help you out, mang.... I wouldn't even know where to start, in all honesty. But hey, if you're killing it in life, the way that your video backgrounds make it appear, or the sponsorship with sweetwater, good for you! You've obviously done something right, at one point or another. So, who am I to say another word....? All the best to you & yours! -M.A.
Amazing content thank you!! So when you have that new aux track of the original snare and sample snare blended, acting as your singular snare track, do you then include that new aux snare in your drum group and remove the two other snare tracks? Like if you were to do drum bus mixing, would that new aux track be included in that bus excluding the other two tracks, or are all three tracks included to the bus and whatever plugins you use to mix the drums is happening to all three?
I got two questions for you my friend. 1) are those Andrew's trio6's on your 11s ?😃. 2) what's proping up your apple keyboard? 🍎 love your videos 📹 ❤. Peace ✌🏾
Great info Colt 🤘
LOL love it man! What a great video walk down memory lane.I Remember When sound replacer came out for pro tools,O my goodness! Now that was a game changer for me. Things have really evolved over the years But still the same concept, It works and it’s great.I remember sampling every single kit .And I think Sound replace Only wanted four hits ..Thank you for making this video man it was great. Canada love you \,,/
Sound replacer!! Yes!!!
Great video Colt! One thing, what’s the reason for choosing the natural phase on the ProQ3?
Good question! I think it sounds better than zero latency, and sounds better/uses less CPU than linear phase
GREAT INF0.... now i have to watch serval times to see if i can get it right🙂🙂🙂
Have you every considered releasing a one shot library. I have been looking for a good studio drum kit library but must are part of software packages. I am looking for one shot wav files of studio kits for personal uses.
Appreciated this thank you for always helping us 🙌🏼
Thanks!!
Great video Colt! Do you find a lot of issues with phase when doing this technique?? Do you ever have to commit the trigger track so you can phase align it?
I’m not Colt haha. When Trigger plays a sample it analyzes the audio it’s referencing to line the sample up in phase with the original sound.
Even though Trigger 2 is supposed to phase-align the samples, you really want to check every hit is alright. I always render / bounce my trigger track and there's ALWAYS some hits I have to manually correct.
for one shots you could skip the part where you create the new folder in the library and load it from trigger2 browser and drag the wav file from the bounce folder to the trigger track
I thought you had to format samples with Slates Trigger Editor software to get them recognized in Trigger 2, no? Any .wav file works?
Hey Colt! Is that a smaller version of the Trio’s??? Or am I going cockeyed??
Vc é Fooooda. Make a video showing how you process the bass
Hello and great video..thx
Question: didn’t you encounter phase issue with sampling the same sound? And once it’s cut at a certain location and inserted into Trigger, how does one know there is no phase cancellation automatically? Surely phase issues are a hit or miss with this process?
Hey Colt, could you please do a video on your most used Pro Tools keyboard commands? Especially that fade thing you did etc. I been using a Daw for 27 years and I don’t even know ONE! Not even one
Wow man! Killer!
GREAT video!!!! 👍👍
I have the Trio6's and they look pretty massive in my room. But it's crazy how the Trio11's make them look so small. Lol.
Hay Colt, Cool Video, I do something close but with actual samples from a library and ensure they are phase aligned.. Why 2 different Focal's in the room. 11's and the Trio6's. Have you won the lotto and added the 6's to you collection?
Hey great video! Do you think superior drummer 3 is better than Trigger 2? I’m trying to decide which would be better. I am a drummer and I like creating my own samples but want to bring drum triggering into my mix arsenal your advice on this is greatly appreciated!
Very Nice!
Are you going to make a Focal trio6 and trio11 comparison video?
I use trio6 for 2 years and very satisfied, and considering about upgrade to trio11
I am, it’s coming soon!
Thanks for great video! Using samples from the same drumkit is a really good idea )
I have one question: snare can have different sounds like center hit, side hit and rimshot. If I have a standart ta-ga-ta-ga drum break, first and third hits are side or rimshot, second and fourth are senterhits. If I have sample in parallel - it cancels the difference in the sound of the snare. If I mute the sample and compensate by volume - the snare sounds thinner during the break.
So what is a correct solution in such situation?
Share that snare drum sample please lol! This was dope..
Doesn’t that space in front of your sample put it off time? Also, too much hat in the snare totally screws this up doesn’t it? As far as not sounding sampled.
Fantastic
Wich preset in the vallhalla room?
Solid, brother. Having that many drums samples, it might benifit your wallet by offering them or a collection of them for sale. The Colt Capperrune Drum Collection. Cha Ching! 🤘🏻🇺🇸🤘🏻
Yo Colt, how come the snare sample fundamental changed at 12:16? It sounds like a completely different drum. Sample rate?
It sounds like an octave difference? Was it just the eq?
awesome man!
this raw drums sounds better than my mixed drums xD
Beat me to the punch with the opening! But I have to say I dig your videos. Never too long, right to the point, great gear, great insight. Also, the more I listen back to my favourite 80's tones, tell me you don't suspect a sample on some of those snares? Dokken, Motley Crue etc... that snare sounds pretty damn consistent and perfect each hit. What I hate now is the quantization and the snare sounding like it is a tom. Add that to the loudness wars and it just makes for fatigue and no spark.
The Beatles are responsible for pioneering using phasers, flanging and tape delay.
Any update on the focal trio11 vs 6 review?
They just finished the break in period. I’m waiting on a set of pucks so I can start putting them in rotation, hoping to have the video up in a couple weeks
@@ColtCapperrune awesome! Love it, great channel, looking forward to it. I'm going to buy either the 6 or the 11 in a few weeks and so far I haven't seen a review comparing those two
Focal stacks ?
To avoid phase shift to the sampled snare, when summed with the raw snare, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to boost with harmonic distortion (using Spectre for instance) and dip the unwanted resonance with linear EQ, to get an even better sounding sample?
Pretty sure slate makes sure the phase is correct on its own.
@@eddiecarrizales sure, the Trigger plugin doesn’t add any phase, due to delay compensation, but when you do EQ moves to a parallel track in this sort of way, it adds delay to the trigger signal, which turns the two tracks out of phase with each other at some points. Not a huge deal, but everything that can be improved makes a difference.
Why does Colt have Focal Trios on his Focal Trios? :O
Foreshadowing 😜😜😜
@@ColtCapperrune I expect nothing less than a Dolby Atmos system of Focal Trios by the end of the year. :)
SWEETWATER, MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Why did you get the smaller Trios? Whats the point of that?
They are in for review, they’ll be a video coming soon
What is a main difference in using samples from session vs already processed generic samples you can buy(considering that sample is just a layer)Thanks
Using samples from the same kit is what I prefer because it’s the same drummer and same kit. If you don’t it’s kind of like having a pro drummer in 1 of the best studios ever play on your song
Is a 303 go off on pro logic
Can we talk about 2 pairs of focal trios?!
We certainly can 😜
Do you like one pair over the other? I’m thinking about getting a pair in a year or so or does it depend on the size of room
Nice
Shouldn't this video be called 'Working with drum samples'? I watched the first minutes and several parts beyond, but didn't see any recommendations for or mentioning what samples you use. In case I missed it someone might add a timestamp? I do realize now there's a difference between sampled sounds and sampled tracks/clips.
awesome 👋👋
- Colt: The Beatles didnt use drum samples or autotune!
- Any kid: The who ??
- Colt: The Who didn't use them either.
@@joetunon touché 😂
Dude your Pro Tools workflow is killing me. Why don't you have the multi-tool on for your clicks? And why are you making fades by highlighting then hitting Cmd+F instead of clicking and dragging from the top corner of the region? 😩
Believe it or not I actually have reasons for all of those things, but it’s too much to put in a comment. Maybe I should make a video on it. The multi tool is the most infuriating thing on earth for me
well ......guess i'm amateour ....your drums sound way better then mine ........😅👍
5*
Did anybody else notice the focal stack in the back before he even started talking?
i put autotune on all my drum samples :D
As you should 🤘🏻
So am I crazy or was this intro specifically about Rick Beato? 😂
6:07