Joycelyn Savage reveals engagement to R. Kelly
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- One of R. Kelly's alleged victims is not only defending him, but she says she is engaged to the singer. It may not make sense on paper, but an expert explains how this is common in the cycle of abuse.
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She's young and she'll eventually meet someone who will bring her back to reality. 30 years is a long time.
I think she wants to prove her family wrong
She's not a victim this whole situation and what they're doing to R kelly is disgusting
@ericdavis402 you wild! The evidence is overwhelming, he's 100% a p3do and an abuser
is she still with r kelly @@ericdavis402
So I’m never going to forget being a freshman in high school and the girls my age were messing with grown men 20s and 30s some 40 year olds. Our society tells young girls how to have sex and who they should have sex with and that nobody can tell them different. So those girls do. And then those same ppl who support that teaching have a problem with the results 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly
I agree society does push sex on children( not just girls)...... but I don't know about the who they should have sex with part.
You’re right. R Kelly is not a special case. Grown men exploit children for sex every day and get away with it.
When i was a freshman in high school, old men used to constantly chase. Not just me, my 13&14 yr old friends. And no one bated an eye
Maybe it’s not manipulation in this case. Maybe she’s just really unintelligent and believes she will get his fortune
Chile, he doesn't have a fortune
@@Master_Ses we know that! But does she?
oh you best believe that is the primary reason for her hanging on
@@Master_Ses he has a potential fortune and a connection to him could also produce a small fortune ie books movies or hidden money
He’s negative $2 million. I wouldn’t call that a “fortune”.
sounds like my MOM
being abused and used for over 40 years from her husband and still refuses to divorce him SMH
That sounds real sick what you just said that is so sick of me trying to find every narrative and every reason to push her back from how she really feels
I’m sorry that must be incredibly painful to see your momma go through that.
Your dad?
@@callmekingtrey7756
she divorced my dad for cheating on her relentlessly before I turned 2
Why did they draw him looking like an old wrinkle black Santa Clause 😂😂😂😂
So she’s going to stay engaged to a man that got 30 years in prison
Yes she will is like being married to him for better or worse even though they're not married and some married the person while they're actually in prison which is so stupid cuz how can you be with the person and be on the honeymoon with the person but you know some serial killers have got married in prison which is the most dumbest thing I have ever heard of but they do
Those women weren’t victims they were gold diggers .
They’re both grown it’s their business!!! Nobody had a problem with Elvis so miss me with the BS!!!
I do and there were talks about other young girls Elvis was involved with, he's disgusting
In this case, R. Kelly may not have abused Ms. Savage. But the fact that he abused so many other women means he has the CAPACITY to do the SAME THING to her. People have to stop thinking that a person who treats you like gold, but treats others like trash would never subject you to mistreatment. The person, under certain circumstances, has the capacity to treat you like trash as well.
feel like this man is wrongfully convicted. Every single one of those girls claim shows that they were going there to be attached to fame, what most girls in LA and Hollywood do. Being dogs for rappers and musicians just to show on their social media they know the person. No sex trafficker gives you the privilege to go in and out of his cage, having fun around, buys luxury condos, luxury gifts, you going in/out of his place to your parents and parents cautioning you but you still keep going. All the women stories didn’t make sense but explains typical demonic Hollywood norm that all (both blacks and whites) engage in. The cult of Luciferian Fame.
A former backup performer for R. Kelly testified that she saw Mr. Kelly engaging in a sex act with the R&B singer Aaliyah around 1993, when Aaliyah was only 13 or 14 years old.
So that is ok with you?
In court documents, she said she began having sex with Kelly in 1991, when she was 15 and he was 24, and the relationship ended when she turned 18. According to the Chicago Sun Times, Ms Hawkins sought $10m in damages but accepted a fraction of that amount ($250,000) when the case was settled in 1998
So that's ok with you?
Tracy Sampson sued R. Kelly, accusing him of inducing her "into an indecent sexual relationship" when she was 17.
So that's ok with you?
How stupid are you. Girls from as young as 13 threatened, abused, manipulated.....he participated in sex trafficking too. Jeez there's always some weirdos who see a monster and glorify him
@ Dimwit he wasn’t charged with Tiff or Tracy in this trial. The age of consent is 17 in Chicago. Tiff was only looking for money
Joy never claimed of being victim, RSK, her mom and dad said that.
EXACTLY
The other girl that was interviewed with Joy came back and told Gail that R Kelly mistreated her.
She had a blog few years back sayin Kelly beat n pissed on her so idk bout that
Because THEY weren’t victims
No one knows...they say she's a fool...more to this story
Jocelyn says she loves R kelly, why are you guys trying to explain it and dissect it as abuse,cmon
Because they have nothing else better to do and need a story. Maybe he was good to her but bad to some others. Ijs
I doubt it with the amount of women He's been abusing for Years why be nice to one chick but not the others
Besides abusers can make their victims think they actually love them
@@sukuna6630 you slow people are so annoying just ignorant and saying whatever “ aBUseRs cAn MaKE tHIer .. blah blah blah” you sound as slow as the woman in the video
He was also good to Halle Calhoun
How was R Kelly abuse them ? I’m waiting on answer they had freedom If that were true he had other womens and they had to wait they turn like always but when feeling get involved you change Free Kellz
Engaged: Oh please! Bye Girl
This girl was 19years old when she met R Kelly.at that point, she's a grown woman that can make decision for herself.this people will do anything to destroy someone life
🙄😳🗣Soooo ain’t nobody gon say nothing about her hair piece 🤷🏾♂️
They were all chasing his lifestyle he should be free
Wtf he abused them, threatened them, girls as young as 13, participated in sex trafficking, they found proof for all of this. Free? No way
Wait huh
Free where? to hurt more people and sex traffic more women and young girls? You need to go somewhere and pray.
@@lelecheesy you do.. all them women choose to be with him they railed road him that's why he wasn't convicted on any rape charge
@@purpjones1033 he wasn't convincted of any rape charge because they couldn't prove it. But come on, women? Not women, girls as young as 13, 14, 15...CHILDREN. And they all have said the same thing over the years, forced sexual encounters, threats, abuse. When it's THAT many over the years, combined with proven charge of sex trafficking, you know the other accusations are true, he was simply very sneaky not to get caught.
im a victim of domestic violence and this lady sounds like she has no clue what shes talking about she sounds like shes going by whats told to her or or what shes read or is reading off cards on camera... unless youve actually been a victim of domestic violence yourself you know nothing about it thats all im going to say ao dont sit act like your a know it all on this topic when your really not ty not to be mean...
She probably clout chasing
Money is the root of all evil.
It's the love of money that's the root of all evil not money it self :1 Timothy 6:10 KJV🙏🏿
Y’all think Bill Cosby gonna visit Robert Kelly in Prison?
Now that would be interesting if they share notes together cuz you know some serial killers have done that where they all sit there and write each other telling each other how many people they done killed that would be very interesting if that do happen did you know we both black and we both in here for the same thing I would like to see if that would happen
R. Kelly was clever enough, especially as he became older, to make sure that all of his victims didn't directly experience and endure the worse forms of his conduct ultimately rendering a young vulnerable mind (Savage) to struggle with the belief of his most horrific allegations.
Ted Bundy knew how to impose or illustrate pleasant experiences/conversations with some women he has encountered during his period of viciousness instead of making literally every single woman he approached a victim.
U believe the government lie right?where are all the people he conspired with,why are they not in jail with him.
@@luckyanthony1546 it's not a lie. I saw the actual video on a VHS tape of R. Kelly fucking that 14 year old girl then peeing on her and giving her money with my own eyes many years ago. THAT WAS CLEARLY AND DEFINITELY HIM! I also know someone that knew people in his entourage.
"My wild and crazy past" were words of his own admission.
His arrogance and cockiness was the cause of his demise.
And yes the enablers should be jailed too, but in this particular case R. Kelly is viewed as the sole King/Boss and responsible individual behind everything.... His paid workers were just pawns following orders.
sooo he's controling her from jail? is that it
Charles Douglas you are so sick you are very sick by believing some b******* that came out of your mouth he endure enough to still control those women dude this man is locked up with all his rights taken away from him and you're sick behind telling me that he is still controlling those women do you a very sick
Wow did you survive R Kelly too? You talk as if you were there.
He was not charged with Joycelyn.
She needs a guardianship and restraining order
Why do people try to explain other peoples feelings. For the record, psychology is not science. STEM is real science.
This is the same system tht telling us tht a person sex can change
LMFAO
Why do people insist that they know what a alleged victim is feeling I’m a domestic survivor stop analyzing her movements as brainwashing Stockholm it’s not fair
To be clear he wasn't charged with joycelyn
She’s really brainwashed
She’s appears to be the only one left to get the money from royalties and drop him some funds into his prison account . At this point isn’t she operating from a position of strength considering he’s locked up . She will be controlling the money bag
Lol white record companies got all that
@@georgetate2320 lol
Bro she got peed on
This girl is so brainwashed it's sad. I wish somebody can slap some sense into her and tell her that this is not love. I pray that she breaks free from this man, goes back home to her family and she gets all the therapy she needs.
And to all these idiots who support this man and think he's innocent...shame on all of you!
She is not a victim.
Yeah he did wrong but common man 30 years for Kellz and no hail time for those parents is NOT FAIR.
That girl look good too. I ain't madd at them. Step in the name of love Why don't YALL🤞🏾
That's her business though
She’s the last card he has to play.
I don’t thank so RKELLY is Loved By many @ it’s some sliders @ it’s some RIDERS She happens to be a RIDER in my eyes 💯
It is simply called Conjugal visit and he needs this clown to help him through. Both of these people are silly, nothing really surprises me with them. SMH
That was my first & only thought. They just want some conjugal visits
@@tinaamariee832 Jocelyn Savage is truly a silly lady, a young lady who is a waist of YT time. SMH
Good point .
You’ve got to be kidding me!! WTF!!! What is wrong with her?!?
Ok let's cut the crap.they only went after him cause he was going after his master's.
She is loca poor wacky woman
So now we are suppose to sit here and act like she didn't do it for the fame and money . 😅🤣😂🙂
Why can't you people get y'all a life and stop trying to determine what people say y'all not inside their head's.
She was not. On e of the ladies. Look at Gail King story
She should stand by her man
Wow I’m surprised she wouldn’t dump him after the 30 year sentence
During these times of high inflation, crime and unrepresenative leaders, We must center our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. To have faith in Jesus Christ means to have such trust in Him that we obey whatever He commands. As we place our faith in Jesus Christ, becoming his obedient disciples, Heavenly Father will forgive our sins and prepare us to return to Him.
Amen! 💙💯
She doesn't sound like a victim, maybe she's confuse & in love. He can't have that much control over her know because he's lock up. She'll eventually move on.💯
SO SICK
Have a wonderful honeymoon in the Gray Bar Hotel
That's what Aaliyah said.
This is horrible she's Tramatize she already got vandalized
It’s not about abuse it was always about money.. come on, she had the best life she got taken care of.. there’s a reason why she put that in..
She went from number one to number two in the pecking order, which likely really stung them, it’s a manipulation he had already ingrained.
That's sad
going to have a long wait
LYING!!!!!!
R Kelly knows he don't need help she does I worries for her safety
Is that Cruella?
Is this the woman he pissed on?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
and dont pass judgement when you wernt there to know what really is going on in joycelyn savages life... how would you like it if someone did this to you on camera judged you made all kinds claims about you when they wernt there to witness themself whats going on think before you speak use common sense ty
How can you people speak for her when she already spoke for herself. You ppl need to just mind your business and stop trying to drag the man down. I can’t even make it to the end cuz again. This video is just to bash r. Kelly. SMH 🤦🏾♂️
She just wants to stay connected to him for fame money and just be there for him .! She can still fall in love w abuse
Stockholm... Plain and simple
Is this some kind of rumor
what an incredibly ignorant woman...this far along into the story she STILL hanging on to hope that she will be taken care of and have something with this man. where is she getting money now? she might be in a shelter for all we know
It's a shame how media twist news Rkelly was convicted of man act and racketeering not abuse do your research sir
Pick me, pick me!!!
You all talking garbage it just that she was always in love with him , they lie on him because they allin love with him stop talking garbage what kind of manipulations they didn't have to lie because TKelly can't do nothing to her no more so she can speak the truth ,all she is saying is that l sorry about liar on him you all talking piss that all you are talking garbage allgarbage
She only spoke the truth @5:27. All the rest was jibberish.
What the guest said at 5:27 is accurate. However, if a person is abusive & cruel to others, they have the capacity to treat you the safe way, given (what they deem to be) the proper set of circumstances. Thus, I do my best to not engage with people who treat others in a cruel, malicious, mean spirited, or abusive manner, even if they have been kind to me. Because they may flip the script at some point & treat me the same way.
You need to go back to m and dad get help please
As she should. This whole victim, metoo, "I am a weak woman" thing has gotten out of hand. And it cost him his freedom.
Sex trafficking and rico racketeering stop that madness he is none of that he never even got a parking ticket so stop saying what he isn't he is n will continue to be the king of rb now n forever ever I still love him because he is a great man
Thank goodness no one is saying stockholm syndrome🙄 I swear ppl have no idea what that means and use it in the context they heard it and feel they know what it means.
If you're going to talk about 'a cycle of violence', you have to talk about the things that have happened to him as well to make him who he is. Hus abuser are still walking around but are not famous, so is it safe to say they will never be brought to justice?
If you factor the family she comes from and the weird 'reality' show they were creating on their youtube channel while they were supposedly distraught over their daughter, it would be easy to understand why an R.Kelly would be a better option. Her father is probably jealous.
Yes I am trying to slow people's people's, is porexted him as wekk
😳 really
I think it great congratulations free R.kelly
I am there's
She needs hp to get home help her
Free kelly
#Lethimrot
What a bellend
Sweet holy Mary mother Jesus, black woman you rock my 🌎 .
R Kelly was the victim
👸🏽
He didn’t put a gun to nobody head …. Everyone need to be charged even the Parents
I think that the media should keep their opinions to themselves. And let the courts handle this court case. You are making it worse. He’s already been publicly prosecuted, shamed and humiliated. You got what you wanted. Now let it Rest In Peace. Due process. Stop speculating and let it work out itself.
She might lie on next man for money
I am there's