00:45 That is *not* a choke. The bike does not have a carburetor. It is fuel injected, and that little lever is to *open* the throttle bodies slightly to increase RPM when the bike is cold and then is returned to the *closed* position for idle. It’s a common mistake people make because it darn well *_looks_* like a choke lever and it is used at startup when the engine is cold.
Polaris did a terrible job of marketing the Victory line of motorcycles. I ride a 2009 Vision. I cannot count the number of times people have asked me when this bike came out. Every person who has confronted me has said they never seen anything like this bike and where can they find one. Labor Day 2017 a group of riders from Australia had rented 14 Harley Davidsons and were getting off a tour bus near the Grand Canyon. My wife and I were riding up to the park. They came over and were asking me about my bike. I thought surely if they rode Harley’s they would know about this bike. Nope. It’s like the world was left out of knowing about these bikes on purpose.
I had the 05 king pin. Unreal handling. Went through a set of floor boards. The bike is more set up as a sport bike. Smaller front tire and with inverted forks. I miss that bike.
I bought victory Vegas 8 ball and it is perfect.. The best thing I ever did I am 6 foot 7 and I feel comfortable.. I had 4 inch peg extensions installed and it's great..
They quit. right as they were catching on,especially among tall people,they run all day and handle like a dream. Love my xc, and if it weren't for Victory, Harley would still be a 2 valve. The 106 was a natural for cam less heads. They would have blown the competition away in torque, fuel mileage, and Epa compliance with that simple upgrade. Too bad. Ride on.
i agree...i used to be the only Victory around then about 5 years ago they were every where...they really needed to market them which was there only fault
I own a Victory KingPin and HD Road King - Victory is my clear choice while both run great, the Victory produces more power, much neater styling. great sound (not tractor loud) I love it. HD is for sale.
Thank you very much for espousing the word of God. Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ who will be coming soon. Jesus said in John 14:6 - - "I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but through me."
Actually then did fine on marketing however they just did not have the "name" Victory is superior to Indian however people buy brand names and Victory just could not become a household name. Look at all the years (past) where Harley was horrible yest people bought them knowing they would break. The cross country is probably the best V twin ever made. I really like the simple dash, no gps, no fax machine, no frills just a speedo, what else do you really need?
Great video. Thanks for that! The 'Pin is a legend - one of Victory's best bikes. This one, in tour trim, looks especially good. This would have been Vic's tour model for 2006, as the Cross was not introduced until about 2010. I ride a 2014 Vision Tour, and it is hands down THE best bike I own. The power, the comfort, the functionality, the styling - there is nothing out there like it. Is it better than a Harley? People seem to want to make that comparison. I don't know, really. I would rather not beat that drum, as I respect both brands. I just know that the Vision is the right bike for me. 39,000 miles in 3.5 years and ZERO down time. That pretty much speaks for itself. Whomever buys this bike will get a great machine. Ride on...
This guy cracked me up when he said .....PEOPLE WRECK MOTORCYCLES. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. I'm 62 years old and I absolutely agree. I've totaled a couple of scoots been in a coma for seven days and other nonsense and yet.........I'm starting to get that need to get another one.
Polaris/Victory with that ease of maintenance engine design is not dead, its technology was ahead of its time but functional. No push rods, gear drive primary, air oil cooling, one hole oil change, one oil drain plug. Polaris went full speed on Indian with a engine that has more moving parts than the old Harley-Davidson V twin. Harley-Davidson has since changed to a single cam, gear counter balancing etc. I would not be surprised if Polaris puts the engine from Victory in the Indians but on a larger scale equal to their 111ci because that victory engine technology is the future and they know it, if Polaris is smart they could sell that low maintenance design motor to Harley-Davidson, either way it’s gonna get used.
Victory are such great bikes. I owned a V rod tried the hammer and traded in on it immediately. i loved Harleys too always wanted one. People who say Victory was just an HD knockoff or seem cheap because there are a couple plastic signal holders or whatever have never ridden one seriously or compared bikes back to back. Polaris didn't knock off HD they gave an awesome option and improved that option performance wise and even gave the consumer a break at the bank compared to HD. Plus there is nothing similar in the lines of the bike, Victory is just all flowing art as opposed to choppy and square with things appearing to be just randomly bolted on. Everything they did made HD better and is really going to make Indian a great brand too. Polaris (Indian) really needs to expand on the brand though offering more bikes than just baggers and the scout. kind of weird that they didn't take some of the more popular victory models, tweak them and bring them along as rebadged Indians. Just abandoned the whole thing.
Harley is much better today because of Victory. I love my cross roads and passed on Harley. the 2018 Harleys with the new milwaukee engine are much better,
Why do you test these (any) bike with one of the mirrors flapping in the wind? Take the time to take a wrench to tighten them both up first. Give the Bike a thorough exam to the brakes, lights and mirrors before you demo it for the public to test ride it. For your own safety... You have an outstanding dealership and two really cool guys making it click, so I'm not knocking what you have, just Please take the time to tighten those mirrors before you take it for a spin. Purdy please, with sugar on top.
The reason Victory went out of business is that everyone that wanted one had one. Indian went out of business in 1953. Polaris is not in the motorcycle business, Harley-Davidson is. 100+ years. If the Harley EVO didn’t resurrect the cruiser/ touring market in 1984 none of these mc companies making V-Twins world be making V-Twins. NADA! ZILCH! Not Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Polaris, Zilch. Give me a Harley-Davidson any day! That’s what they all pretend to be:) 1991 FLHS here. 150,000 smiles.
Is it the same lesson the Harley will learn. The only reason Harley is alive because of older me and their clothing. The lesson is stop overpricing your vehicles. That simple.
Yea but Victory ridiculed harley for many engine designs,, in example using push rod design,, and yet here they are using push rods in their Indian line,,, same with the fuel system you spoke about now they do basically the same as harley,,, and have any of you noticed the engine on the scout is almost identical to the VROD,,, because it is.. so the problem i see is that Victory spent all their marketing in bashing harley instead of just worrying about their own product,, saying how superior the design was ,, bit now they more and more are copying alot of what Harley does,, and their constant bashing and trashing Harleys turned alot of ppl off,,, lets hope they learned their lesson and will go down a different path with their Indian line...and just worry about what they are doing and show what innovations they are making ,, and not drive a wedge in between the 2 groups of consumers...
You are exactly right. That is one of the reasons i didnt buy victory because they were always comparing to harley instead of like the other manufactures and saying we have more power etc etc than the competition. Victory always went out of way to bash and compare to Harley
Actually, on the Indian 111 bikes the air enters the air box through the front of the frame behind the triple clamp. There is an aluminum spine under the fuel tank open forward in front of the tank. Air gets rammed through the frame spine and into the air box. Unless... you change to a stage one air cleaner. Then that changes to conventional air cleaner aka Harley type.
never buy the cloths with the name on it , .. bike can come and go but a good jacket is forever... and any bike the '' gunny '' tells you to own you know its b/s because he is b/s . and any co who makes that fucking butt ugly headlights you know sucks and look a digital speedo in what 2005-6-7- what ever I am riding , I have no idea what year it is .. this is a great bike so come buy it from us ..
These comments are disappointing. Do your best to prove yourself right, test ride a Victory. I guarantee no matter how hard you try, you won't be able to hold onto your unfounded bias for long. I've had both, Victory is just better engineered. Tradition has its place, but not in engineering.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 meanwhile 3.years later you've put 800 miles on your precious hog , and spent 12,000 dollars on t shirts, to advertise the bike that sits in your garage. Yes sir, you are a true Harley guy.
Make sure you have a couple of wrenches with ya. You will learned that lesson. And get a Co-signer for the loan you will need when you have to pay for repairs! LOL!
From an engineering standpoint the Victory V-Twin was a much better engine from day one. I loved the early models. I lost interest when they began doing "factory customs."
Yeah.. lets buy a knock off harley... said no one ever.... tryin to look like a Road King even in the name... lol KING Pin?? "King" real original... give me a fuckin break...
If you knew anything about mechanics you would know that the Victory Shits all over Harley. Enjoy your 50 gasket engine as opposed to 8. With Victory you drain 1 oil and change 1 filter for the whole engine and tranny! Don't get any better than that!
defilade 106 lol thats cool ill still have parts i can pick up at any of the hundreds of Harley dealers in the country. Lmk how that dealer support will be in the next 5 or so years... Victory=not victorious hahaha. Fukin ugly ass bikes ... hahahaha
defilade 106 also let me know when you gotta Crack the Case on that POS to replace a bearing in a tranny as were on a Harley I can just pull the tranny rebuild it and throw it back in.
Ugly my ass, I get people telling me all the time how sweet my bike is. stock for stock I'll blow your doors off too. Victory's are basically bullet proof. Gear drivin primaries, no stupid 1940's chain slapping around. I see Harley copied Vic with their new lineup. Gear drivin primary, mono shock chassis. Harley will never make a bagger this badass! ruclips.net/video/Kd2_HPgJnnk/видео.html
00:45 That is *not* a choke. The bike does not have a carburetor. It is fuel injected, and that little lever is to *open* the throttle bodies slightly to increase RPM when the bike is cold and then is returned to the *closed* position for idle. It’s a common mistake people make because it darn well *_looks_* like a choke lever and it is used at startup when the engine is cold.
There is enough inventory out there that i can ride victory for the rest of my days. Im a 2015 Highball and love every mile with it
60 years of riding, owned hundreds of bikes, my 2004 Victory Kingpin will be my last ride. Great bike.
Polaris did a terrible job of marketing the Victory line of motorcycles. I ride a 2009 Vision. I cannot count the number of times people have asked me when this bike came out. Every person who has confronted me has said they never seen anything like this bike and where can they find one. Labor Day 2017 a group of riders from Australia had rented 14 Harley Davidsons and were getting off a tour bus near the Grand Canyon. My wife and I were riding up to the park. They came over and were asking me about my bike. I thought surely if they rode Harley’s they would know about this bike. Nope. It’s like the world was left out of knowing about these bikes on purpose.
I love my Victory Cross Roads. It out handles my brothers Road King every time.
I had the 05 king pin. Unreal handling. Went through a set of floor boards. The bike is more set up as a sport bike. Smaller front tire and with inverted forks. I miss that bike.
I bought victory Vegas 8 ball and it is perfect.. The best thing I ever did I am 6 foot 7 and I feel comfortable.. I had 4 inch peg extensions installed and it's great..
Vic's sound like a Mopar from the muscle car era. I love the sound of the Freedom engine.
They quit. right as they were catching on,especially among tall people,they run all day and handle like a dream. Love my xc, and if it weren't for Victory, Harley would still be a 2 valve. The 106 was a natural for cam less heads. They would have blown the competition away in torque, fuel mileage, and Epa compliance with that simple upgrade. Too bad.
Ride on.
Jeff Palmer so, it's a flathead?
i agree...i used to be the only Victory around then about 5 years ago they were every where...they really needed to market them which was there only fault
I love my 04 Kingpin, Victory lives on!
I own a Victory KingPin and HD Road King - Victory is my clear choice while both run great, the Victory produces more power, much neater styling. great sound (not tractor loud) I love it. HD is for sale.
This bike was the best maneuvering cruiser. Ran through floorboards.
Love the Kingpin! It is about my favorite bike looks wise of all bikes!
I love my xv40 cammed 2013 CCT and looking forward to many more reliable years to come.
The speedo is not OEM, but an aftermarket one by Dakota Digital.
Thank you very much for espousing the word of God. Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ who will be coming soon. Jesus said in John 14:6 - - "I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but through me."
Actually then did fine on marketing however they just did not have the "name" Victory is superior to Indian however people buy brand names and Victory just could not become a household name. Look at all the years (past) where Harley was horrible yest people bought them knowing they would break. The cross country is probably the best V twin ever made. I really like the simple dash, no gps, no fax machine, no frills just a speedo, what else do you really need?
Great video. Thanks for that! The 'Pin is a legend - one of Victory's best bikes. This one, in tour trim, looks especially good. This would have been Vic's tour model for 2006, as the Cross was not introduced until about 2010. I ride a 2014 Vision Tour, and it is hands down THE best bike I own. The power, the comfort, the functionality, the styling - there is nothing out there like it. Is it better than a Harley? People seem to want to make that comparison. I don't know, really. I would rather not beat that drum, as I respect both brands. I just know that the Vision is the right bike for me. 39,000 miles in 3.5 years and ZERO down time. That pretty much speaks for itself. Whomever buys this bike will get a great machine. Ride on...
this intro gets me every time lol
This guy cracked me up when he said .....PEOPLE WRECK MOTORCYCLES. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. I'm 62 years old and I absolutely agree. I've totaled a couple of scoots been in a coma for seven days and other nonsense and yet.........I'm starting to get that need to get another one.
Love my Victory Magnum, suede pearl white with black and grey stripes, very comfortable
I love that Kingpin Tour
Polaris/Victory with that ease of maintenance engine design is not dead, its technology was ahead of its time but functional. No push rods, gear drive primary, air oil cooling, one hole oil change, one oil drain plug. Polaris went full speed on Indian with a engine that has more moving parts than the old Harley-Davidson V twin. Harley-Davidson has since changed to a single cam, gear counter balancing etc.
I would not be surprised if Polaris puts the engine from Victory in the Indians but on a larger scale equal to their 111ci because that victory engine technology is the future and they know it, if Polaris is smart they could sell that low maintenance design motor to Harley-Davidson, either way it’s gonna get used.
Okay so I have a question then since u said is fuel injected..then why did u say pull the choke when it stalled??🤔🤔🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Best looking bikes in my opinion I wish they didn’t go down
Victory are such great bikes. I owned a V rod tried the hammer and traded in on it immediately. i loved Harleys too always wanted one. People who say Victory was just an HD knockoff or seem cheap because there are a couple plastic signal holders or whatever have never ridden one seriously or compared bikes back to back. Polaris didn't knock off HD they gave an awesome option and improved that option performance wise and even gave the consumer a break at the bank compared to HD. Plus there is nothing similar in the lines of the bike, Victory is just all flowing art as opposed to choppy and square with things appearing to be just randomly bolted on. Everything they did made HD better and is really going to make Indian a great brand too. Polaris (Indian) really needs to expand on the brand though offering more bikes than just baggers and the scout. kind of weird that they didn't take some of the more popular victory models, tweak them and bring them along as rebadged Indians. Just abandoned the whole thing.
Harley is much better today because of Victory. I love my cross roads and passed on Harley. the 2018 Harleys with the new milwaukee engine are much better,
Still not good as a Vic, They are pushrod design with a Carb designed intake. not true fuel injection. They are two complex, more to go wrong.
i'm hearing of valve seat problems on the new M8 motors
I am picking up my 2008 victory kingpin Friday. I ably paid 3k for it im so excited yay whooooooooooooo
Indian sold as many Indians in its first 3 years as the whole production run of Victory. I owned a 2001 Arlen Ness Vegas. Now own a Indian
The lesson to learn from them is the same lesson buell learned. Dont have a parent company who dont believe in your future.
Two years later and still brings a tear.
That display is giving me an aneurysm
Why do you test these (any) bike with one of the mirrors flapping in the wind? Take the time to take a wrench to tighten them both up first. Give the Bike a thorough exam to the brakes, lights and mirrors before you demo it for the public to test ride it. For your own safety... You have an outstanding dealership and two really cool guys making it click, so I'm not knocking what you have, just Please take the time to tighten those mirrors before you take it for a spin. Purdy please, with sugar on top.
hey man, can you do life lesson videos while riding a bike ? i would love to watch em if you do so :)
What did you mean about the 60 seals comment? Do they have a tendency to leak fluids?!
@Johnny Appleseed Thanks for the explanation.
@Johnny Appleseed :-)
Never been here, but I know this route like the back of my hand. lol
It's not a choke....Just a high idle.
that blinking speedometer would drive me nuts
That is not the stock speedo
Only blinks on the video buddy.
I would like to buy a new Hammer Victory 🏍
The reason Victory went out of business is that everyone that wanted one had one. Indian went out of business in 1953. Polaris is not in the motorcycle business, Harley-Davidson is. 100+ years.
If the Harley EVO didn’t resurrect the cruiser/ touring market in 1984 none of these mc companies making V-Twins world be making V-Twins. NADA! ZILCH! Not Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Polaris, Zilch.
Give me a Harley-Davidson any day! That’s what they all pretend to be:)
1991 FLHS here. 150,000 smiles.
EVO!....the best engine Harley ever made!
Ironic name -- "Victory"!
We called them Victurds.
I think Victory died because, at the end of the day, every bike was the same bike. Cosmetically different, foundationally identical.
I average 45 mpg on my 06 Vic Kingpin.
like no more customer support? Polaris just screwed them.
I am afraid that will be Indians future also with Polaris at the wheel!
Is it the same lesson the Harley will learn. The only reason Harley is alive because of older me and their clothing. The lesson is stop overpricing your vehicles. That simple.
Polaris fucked up bad on this one.
Yea but Victory ridiculed harley for many engine designs,, in example using push rod design,, and yet here they are using push rods in their Indian line,,, same with the fuel system you spoke about now they do basically the same as harley,,, and have any of you noticed the engine on the scout is almost identical to the VROD,,, because it is.. so the problem i see is that Victory spent all their marketing in bashing harley instead of just worrying about their own product,, saying how superior the design was ,, bit now they more and more are copying alot of what Harley does,, and their constant bashing and trashing Harleys turned alot of ppl off,,, lets hope they learned their lesson and will go down a different path with their Indian line...and just worry about what they are doing and show what innovations they are making ,, and not drive a wedge in between the 2 groups of consumers...
You are exactly right. That is one of the reasons i didnt buy victory because they were always comparing to harley instead of like the other manufactures and saying we have more power etc etc than the competition. Victory always went out of way to bash and compare to Harley
Actually, on the Indian 111 bikes the air enters the air box through the front of the frame behind the triple clamp. There is an aluminum spine under the fuel tank open forward in front of the tank. Air gets rammed through the frame spine and into the air box. Unless... you change to a stage one air cleaner. Then that changes to conventional air cleaner aka Harley type.
Polaris is not gone out of business they merely dropped their name nobody would buy now they're trying to sell people Indians are American,
The victory bikes are so much nicer than the new Indians, and my opinion kill harleys, dont understand why they did this to bad.
never buy the cloths with the name on it , .. bike can come and go but a good jacket is forever... and any bike the '' gunny '' tells you to own you know its b/s because he is b/s . and any co who makes that fucking butt ugly headlights you know sucks and look a digital speedo in what 2005-6-7- what ever I am riding , I have no idea what year it is .. this is a great bike so come buy it from us ..
I had two good days with my Victory. The day I bought it, and the day I sold it.
Digital speedometer... no thanks
it's an afrermarket speedo.
aftermarket, not stock
Hardly anybody likes Victory Bikes. Thats why they didn‘t sell enough. I never rode one but they all look crappy. Nothing Matches Harley!
I think you’re dumb. Very very dumb.
Bwahahahahahaha!!! You are absolutely correct.... It's a good thing that nothing matches Harley's.
These comments are disappointing. Do your best to prove yourself right, test ride a Victory. I guarantee no matter how hard you try, you won't be able to hold onto your unfounded bias for long. I've had both, Victory is just better engineered. Tradition has its place, but not in engineering.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 meanwhile 3.years later you've put 800 miles on your precious hog , and spent 12,000 dollars on t shirts, to advertise the bike that sits in your garage. Yes sir, you are a true Harley guy.
First lesson, don't build ugly ass bikes...
yeah go get a pretty turd like HD
i learned a big 17,000$ lesson from victory...if you want a motorcycle ,buy a Harley..
Make sure you have a couple of wrenches with ya. You will learned that lesson. And get a Co-signer for the loan you will need when you have to pay for repairs! LOL!
I learned that lesson too .not only did I get a better bike but I saved $8000. Glad I didn't but the Harley.
You spelled Honda wrong ;)
So did you spend $17k and somehow didn't get a motorcycle from Victory?
Like it just never arrived?
From an engineering standpoint the Victory V-Twin was a much better engine from day one. I loved the early models. I lost interest when they began doing "factory customs."
Yeah.. lets buy a knock off harley... said no one ever.... tryin to look like a Road King even in the name... lol KING Pin?? "King" real original... give me a fuckin break...
If you knew anything about mechanics you would know that the Victory Shits all over Harley. Enjoy your 50 gasket engine as opposed to 8. With Victory you drain 1 oil and change 1 filter for the whole engine and tranny! Don't get any better than that!
defilade 106 lol thats cool ill still have parts i can pick up at any of the hundreds of Harley dealers in the country. Lmk how that dealer support will be in the next 5 or so years... Victory=not victorious hahaha. Fukin ugly ass bikes ... hahahaha
defilade 106 also let me know when you gotta Crack the Case on that POS to replace a bearing in a tranny as were on a Harley I can just pull the tranny rebuild it and throw it back in.
Same with all the metrics. Have fun splitting the cases for that transmission issue.
Ugly my ass, I get people telling me all the time how sweet my bike is. stock for stock I'll blow your doors off too. Victory's are basically bullet proof. Gear drivin primaries, no stupid 1940's chain slapping around. I see Harley copied Vic with their new lineup. Gear drivin primary, mono shock chassis. Harley will never make a bagger this badass! ruclips.net/video/Kd2_HPgJnnk/видео.html