Definitely some great advice here. As a production company that has used non-actors or less experienced actors in the past, we can for sure use Ricky's advice. And after seeing some of those performances there's no doubt he's on to something! Also, that sponsor scene is priceless! :D
Strong advice and pretty good timing. I'm writing a short film with people from my drama class so I hope I can help them if they can't exactly create a certain emotion or get into character with these tips! Thanks!
Number 5 (showing and mimicking the performance for the actors) is something I've seen acting instructors scold aspiring directors for, but he is exactly right. Sometimes it's important to demonstrate what's needed emotionally and if the director is willing to embarrass himself, it gives the actor a sense of freedom to fail and not be self-conscious or insecure.
I'm a "none actor" and I've done a bunch of TV commercials. I can say the last point about demonstrating what is needed, especially if it feels a bit silly is an amazing confidence booster, especially when it comes from the director or someone in charge. Breaks down walls so quickly.
Ryan I recently got the opportunity to shot my first short film (team project) and I am going to post it next week.. Thank you for the tips, will really help me get the one minute short films correctly. Love from India❤
Bringing in Jason Robinson was the most genius move you have ever pulled at Film Riot. Bravo! And these new guests/interviews you are doing is just awesome in every way.
Just went and watched The Cage, absolutely gorgeous movie, the acting was incredible, the score was beautiful and the colouring was excellent. Hats off to everyone involved.
The element of education that Film Riot has brought to my higher learning has been paramount to my understanding of film and storytelling as a whole in the industry. YOU GUYS got me my college degree! I saw this short about a year ago and even though I don't have much in common with the protagonist featured, this story brought me near to tears at the strugggle one faces to achieve their goals no matter how far out of reach they may seem. Much love Film Riot. Struggle on. You will succeed.
Just what I needed for my upcoming script I'm writing where I'm thinking of having my nephew be the main character. I need this guy as a mentor! Loved his advice and the film as well!
I've been working with all new actors for the past six months, during my time in college. I'm glad to say this was very helpful for new ideas and reassuring me that I'm doing a decent job. Thanks Ry!
This was extremely helpful. I'm actually planning on starting the filming process in the next year or so. Which also means using new actors. I'm glad I've subscribed to this channel because it's given me lot of insight to important factors in production.
Great advice. I've always heard in directing classes and what not that having actors mimic you is bad and micromanaging but I've found it to be necessary a lot of the time when working with non actors
Very, very interesting short! Filmed sometimes like a documentary, sometimes like a music video, in a way that's both classical and unusual in storytelling videos... I loved it! Couldn't understand half of what's said, but the visuals carried me all the way through. After watching this, I feel like throwing to the bin everything I've ever shot... ;)
Holy shit that Siren rig! I've seen so many rigs trying to emulate police sirens, but none of them were simple. HOW COULD I BEEN SO BLIND!!! Par cans bouncing off spinning mirror boards!!! Can't wait to pull that trick out on set! Thank you so much!!!!
Thank you. I got a huge amount of information from this both spoke and unspoken. Rickey's opening is a classic "Don't tell me show me" There are years of information packed into that opening scene. You don't know how they got to this point in life but it feels like they have been there for a long time.
When I saw the bts for this a while back. I tried some of what he was doing out. Namely, the yelling and acting from the sideline like he was doing in the staircase scene. (Or at least, the smae concept.) The actors really liked it because it made them a little more comfortable and they got a better idea of what I was looking for. But when I tried doing some of the stuff I saw him do in the bts with actors, for the first time ever I had them approach me and say that I did a really good job. And as a response to not cutting, one thing I did when I had to do a project with one camera was I would make the actors run through the entire scene without cutting and let them go through even if they moved too far out of frame and then came back. I agree that unless people are on a very high level, its extremely disruptive to stop them in the middle of a take. Awesome tips!
Remember that this should only be resorted to when working with non/new actors, and only if they are simply NOT giving you the performance you're looking for. I think it's terrible advice in general; especially for people who are pursuing acting and more advanced. You have to be able to convey, as a director, what you want using a ton of different methods. Just because an actor is not doing what you expect, does not mean they aren't being authentic or believable, and you have to recognize that. Don't resort to line reading or having them mimic. Instead, if you need more, collaborate with them to help them understand where the emotion needs to go. Help them get into the headspace. If that's not working then try the simple, "Fast, more intense" direction. Acting from the sideline, however, can possibly result in losing the trust of an actor. You gotta be able to communicate what you're seeing from them, what their truth is, first, or they might believe you're not paying attention. If they're in an emotional state and giving you as much as they can, yelling at them could be damaging.
Yes! This is called result directing. This is a huge no-no. It's like directing an actor with "act more happy". Your "happy" might be different than my "happy" within the context of what you want in the scene. When the director in this video showed the actors how to perform, I cringed hard. I felt like I was in my first year of film school. You couldn't have said it better! Even if they are non actors, you could still give them subtext or even "imagine if" up in there before resorting to result directing. Directing is a huge puzzle piece of a game that you could make it either a two piece Jake Paul and company puzzle game or a one thousand piece WALL-E and friends puzzle game.
Yea, but people take it too far sometimes and a lot if it has to do with who you're directing. You can do what they taught you in film school and you will always get something pretty solid because "that's what works" but in the real world, no one ever became considered one of the best by following the rules. The point of directing is to get the actors to deliver the best possible performance while following the script and the storyline. This is why casting is so important. You can't always say "imagine if" tbh, that's way more armature than any directing technique I can think of. I mean, isn't that how we all started out? lol This guy pulled awesome performances from non actors with this technique and I feel that when you are working with actors who are still figuring out what their fit is, they really appreciate this kind of directing and respond excellently to it. You're not telling them how to act, you're just getting them to feel the emotions your looking for at the intensity you want. Which is what a director should be doing. Then the actor gets a ton of legroom to do what they want. If the actor is any good at all, they read the script, so you have to trust they know what's going on. So all thats left to do is dial it in a bit to match the scene's tone.
brandonse167 how did you get whatever you're telling me with a few sentences I wrote? I said that you could put a couple "imagine ifs" before resorting to result directing, which is the lowest to begin with. I agree with a lot of what you said as well, but I do take that you're the self proclaimed "acting guru" kind of guy and knows everything about everything and the real world. Tell me, how's the real world like? I was agreeing with one aspect of not so good technique and gave one experience of something that happened years ago, in which you don't know how I've evolved since, or if I break rules, how I'm approaching my hustle into the film industry, etc.. Anyways, good advice for the most part, I definitely agree with a lot of what you said. Word of advice to you, we don't always have to sound "smart" or "otherworldly" for people to take us seriously. 😉
LuisAquino305 yea, I know what I said was super sophisticated and hard to follow because it not only made a point but elaborated on it. Also I don't know what kind of person reads what I wrote and says to himself "that guys trying so hard to sound smart" but I guess it's the same kinda guy who gets so offended by people who don't agree with them that they become self proclaimed acting gurus in your eyes. And unlike you, I don't really care what anyone thinks of my technique. Actors I work with seem to like how I direct.
I've always been taught that acting the scene out or acting out the dialogue in front of them is a HUGE faux pas in directing. Partly because it can be seen by the actor as you doubting their capabilities (all though that applies mainly to professional actors) and partly because it can lead the actor to mimic your way of speaking rather than using their own speech patterns that come more natural to them. But we all have different directing styles and there are as many schools of directing as there is directors, after all. Just figured I'd share.
actually very solid advice.
this was released 10 minutes ago you have not even had time to watch the whole thing you fucking liar
CarterHarlem Lmao calm down. I paused the video before the domain sketch and commented. You weirdo
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New Video!!! Check me out dog!
Y’all toxic fiends!!!
The last tip is the best, when I do films and I need a non actor the biggest problem is usually that they aren't being big enough.
Definitely some great advice here. As a production company that has used non-actors or less experienced actors in the past, we can for sure use Ricky's advice. And after seeing some of those performances there's no doubt he's on to something!
Also, that sponsor scene is priceless! :D
GEEZUZ THIS WAS DONE BY NONE ACTORSSSS???!! DAM I SHOULD TAKE MY MONEY BACK FROM MASTER CLASS AND GIVE IT TO RICKY STAUB INSTEAD LOL
Straight to the Point 🎯💯.
I saw they behind the scenes for this a couple of weeks ago, I'm really impressed how much these actors gave for the first time roles.
Where did you see the behind the scenes? Would love to see it too.
The Making of The Cage - vimeo.com/205217816
Excellent, many thanks for that.
I saw this short film because of musicbed and loved it instantly!! Very cool to get this information from the director :)
gudde :D
Strong advice and pretty good timing. I'm writing a short film with people from my drama class so I hope I can help them if they can't exactly create a certain emotion or get into character with these tips! Thanks!
Hi
Number 5 (showing and mimicking the performance for the actors) is something I've seen acting instructors scold aspiring directors for, but he is exactly right. Sometimes it's important to demonstrate what's needed emotionally and if the director is willing to embarrass himself, it gives the actor a sense of freedom to fail and not be self-conscious or insecure.
Can we please have a channel that is solely your ads. They are always comedic gold and could see myself just randomly watching them out of the blue.
I'm a "none actor" and I've done a bunch of TV commercials. I can say the last point about demonstrating what is needed, especially if it feels a bit silly is an amazing confidence booster, especially when it comes from the director or someone in charge. Breaks down walls so quickly.
Wow this is awesome! Absolutely love the concept of not cutting as to keep the actors going and keep them in the zone, great approach.
Ryan I recently got the opportunity to shot my first short film (team project) and I am going to post it next week..
Thank you for the tips, will really help me get the one minute short films correctly.
Love from India❤
Good luck
This was a absolutely amazing episode.
Bringing in Jason Robinson was the most genius move you have ever pulled at Film Riot. Bravo! And these new guests/interviews you are doing is just awesome in every way.
favourite channel I have come along way because you you Ryan!! glad I'm at the top of the list finally
Just went and watched The Cage, absolutely gorgeous movie, the acting was incredible, the score was beautiful and the colouring was excellent. Hats off to everyone involved.
The element of education that Film Riot has brought to my higher learning has been paramount to my understanding of film and storytelling as a whole in the industry. YOU GUYS got me my college degree! I saw this short about a year ago and even though I don't have much in common with the protagonist featured, this story brought me near to tears at the strugggle one faces to achieve their goals no matter how far out of reach they may seem. Much love Film Riot. Struggle on. You will succeed.
The story he explained and the shot at 2:44 is almost like Moonlight !!
Just what I needed for my upcoming script I'm writing where I'm thinking of having my nephew be the main character. I need this guy as a mentor! Loved his advice and the film as well!
When he started saying "Thank you guys for..." I was like "Noooo, already?!"
This is going to be so helpful for the contest!
Great episode! Plus you guys continue to be the KING of ADS! Hilarious!
I love the back up plan idea... Options are your friend 🙏🏿🤗
I've been working with all new actors for the past six months, during my time in college. I'm glad to say this was very helpful for new ideas and reassuring me that I'm doing a decent job. Thanks Ry!
This Director is amazing, I've worked with a lot of none actors but neither thought of Directing them in this way. I found this extremely helpful.
Literally the greatest ad read in the history of ad reads.
The scene where they don't speak after client throws the money on the bed actually broke my heart.
Thats some powerful directing.
I started shooting a short "film" today and this came out yesterday. Perfect timing. Thanks for this video!!!
Was that the best Domain.com ad I have ever seen in my life?
.....YAS YAS YAS
Mmm, I dunno. I think the Domain.com robot will always hold that place for me.
Hmmm good point, maybe a tight second place then.
Sounds about right 🤖🌭
@@micaiahclark does anyone have the link to that video please?
tom smith ruclips.net/video/El1Ei4oNIO0/видео.html there’s another one too, although I couldn’t find the other link
Great guy, seems like a great director too! Keeping my eye on this guy. I have a feeling he’s gonna be huge some day
this is so handy and helpful for beginner filmmakers/directors, because often we have to work with new or inexperienced actors
This was extremely helpful. I'm actually planning on starting the filming process in the next year or so. Which also means using new actors. I'm glad I've subscribed to this channel because it's given me lot of insight to important factors in production.
Thanks, Ricky. Your explanations of working with non-actors are great!
Love what Ricky Staub had experience! Learned new things today. Thanks Film Riot.
Josh and Justin shorts always put my on the ground laughing. Ever since "Palm tree in a hurricane, I'm not going nowhere" Too much Greatness!
such solid and usable advice. what a legend.
Wow! Blown away by this guy. Really love his approach on directing.
Great advice. I've always heard in directing classes and what not that having actors mimic you is bad and micromanaging but I've found it to be necessary a lot of the time when working with non actors
That was the best RUclips ad I’ve ever witnessed
Brilliant episode. Advice. Comedy. Pure genius.
Really enjoyed this. As a newbie actor it made me consider short films which I had shied away from. ❤️
Very insightful thank you! Also, that sponsor video at the end was HILARIOUS!
Legitimately some of the most useful advice on this channel in recent memory.
I'm currently trying to find a scenario for the 1 minute short !!
"The freedom to be foolish" damn bro that is the best way to put it.
What a magnifient advice. I want to study film directing and I have to make a short film for my entry exams so this is icredibly helpful
He's such a cool dude! Excellent film and advice!
Josh in a hotdog suit is one thing I never knew I needed. Bravo!
1:57 that music beat in the background - what is it?
Ricky is 100% correct. Like his approach.
Soo helpfull, just these insert shots gave me chills
Loved that sponsor scene xD
This is pure gold! Thanks for sharing this with us!
That was a small goldmine of great advice and tips. Thank you for sharing them.
Very genuine advice. Thanks! And I love how you guys did something different with the ad this time 😂
That was great! Thx Ricky for the directing tips!
Very, very interesting short! Filmed sometimes like a documentary, sometimes like a music video, in a way that's both classical and unusual in storytelling videos... I loved it! Couldn't understand half of what's said, but the visuals carried me all the way through. After watching this, I feel like throwing to the bin everything I've ever shot... ;)
Thank you Ryan & Ricky..
Thank you for this. Such good advice to use in future shorts
Holy shit that Siren rig! I've seen so many rigs trying to emulate police sirens, but none of them were simple. HOW COULD I BEEN SO BLIND!!! Par cans bouncing off spinning mirror boards!!! Can't wait to pull that trick out on set! Thank you so much!!!!
ratso1994 Yeah! Me too!
ratso1994 where do you find spinning mirror boards
It's shown in 1:56
I bought LED police lights off of Amazon for like 25.00 dollars, runs off a cigarette car plug works fanamonal.
Thanks Film Riot, just a few days before the shooting of my Halloween short film!
That domain.com ad was solid comedy. Love!!!
Thank you. I got a huge amount of information from this both spoke and unspoken. Rickey's opening is a classic "Don't tell me show me" There are years of information packed into that opening scene. You don't know how they got to this point in life but it feels like they have been there for a long time.
This was solid advice. I'll use this in my next film. Thanks!
This was brilliant. Good advice and interesting topic.
this is amazing, Ryan. thank you so much for doing this. this is so helpful!
Josh & Justin are the best comedic duo
That was really good. Thanks for sharing, Ry Guy.
This is so insightful and helpful. Inspiring piece. (also - great domain ad in this one haha)
You guys are on a roll, this is great, thanks!
We need lighting tutorial of this movie
This was incredible! Thank you so much for the invaluable advice.
That was awesome, Ricky is awesome, you are awesome.
These were fantastic tips! Thank you.
Sooooo good. I love the advice. So useful for upcoming projects. Thanks once again film riot 🙏
When I saw the bts for this a while back. I tried some of what he was doing out. Namely, the yelling and acting from the sideline like he was doing in the staircase scene. (Or at least, the smae concept.) The actors really liked it because it made them a little more comfortable and they got a better idea of what I was looking for. But when I tried doing some of the stuff I saw him do in the bts with actors, for the first time ever I had them approach me and say that I did a really good job.
And as a response to not cutting, one thing I did when I had to do a project with one camera was I would make the actors run through the entire scene without cutting and let them go through even if they moved too far out of frame and then came back. I agree that unless people are on a very high level, its extremely disruptive to stop them in the middle of a take.
Awesome tips!
Remember that this should only be resorted to when working with non/new actors, and only if they are simply NOT giving you the performance you're looking for. I think it's terrible advice in general; especially for people who are pursuing acting and more advanced. You have to be able to convey, as a director, what you want using a ton of different methods. Just because an actor is not doing what you expect, does not mean they aren't being authentic or believable, and you have to recognize that. Don't resort to line reading or having them mimic. Instead, if you need more, collaborate with them to help them understand where the emotion needs to go. Help them get into the headspace. If that's not working then try the simple, "Fast, more intense" direction. Acting from the sideline, however, can possibly result in losing the trust of an actor. You gotta be able to communicate what you're seeing from them, what their truth is, first, or they might believe you're not paying attention. If they're in an emotional state and giving you as much as they can, yelling at them could be damaging.
Yes! This is called result directing. This is a huge no-no. It's like directing an actor with "act more happy". Your "happy" might be different than my "happy" within the context of what you want in the scene. When the director in this video showed the actors how to perform, I cringed hard. I felt like I was in my first year of film school. You couldn't have said it better! Even if they are non actors, you could still give them subtext or even "imagine if" up in there before resorting to result directing. Directing is a huge puzzle piece of a game that you could make it either a two piece Jake Paul and company puzzle game or a one thousand piece WALL-E and friends puzzle game.
Yea, but people take it too far sometimes and a lot if it has to do with who you're directing. You can do what they taught you in film school and you will always get something pretty solid because "that's what works" but in the real world, no one ever became considered one of the best by following the rules.
The point of directing is to get the actors to deliver the best possible performance while following the script and the storyline. This is why casting is so important. You can't always say "imagine if" tbh, that's way more armature than any directing technique I can think of. I mean, isn't that how we all started out? lol
This guy pulled awesome performances from non actors with this technique and I feel that when you are working with actors who are still figuring out what their fit is, they really appreciate this kind of directing and respond excellently to it. You're not telling them how to act, you're just getting them to feel the emotions your looking for at the intensity you want. Which is what a director should be doing. Then the actor gets a ton of legroom to do what they want.
If the actor is any good at all, they read the script, so you have to trust they know what's going on. So all thats left to do is dial it in a bit to match the scene's tone.
brandonse167 how did you get whatever you're telling me with a few sentences I wrote? I said that you could put a couple "imagine ifs" before resorting to result directing, which is the lowest to begin with. I agree with a lot of what you said as well, but I do take that you're the self proclaimed "acting guru" kind of guy and knows everything about everything and the real world. Tell me, how's the real world like? I was agreeing with one aspect of not so good technique and gave one experience of something that happened years ago, in which you don't know how I've evolved since, or if I break rules, how I'm approaching my hustle into the film industry, etc.. Anyways, good advice for the most part, I definitely agree with a lot of what you said. Word of advice to you, we don't always have to sound "smart" or "otherworldly" for people to take us seriously. 😉
LuisAquino305 yea, I know what I said was super sophisticated and hard to follow because it not only made a point but elaborated on it. Also I don't know what kind of person reads what I wrote and says to himself "that guys trying so hard to sound smart" but I guess it's the same kinda guy who gets so offended by people who don't agree with them that they become self proclaimed acting gurus in your eyes. And unlike you, I don't really care what anyone thinks of my technique. Actors I work with seem to like how I direct.
I love this!!! I needed this!!
The short film was epic!!!
needed this! Thank you 💛 can't wait to turn my film in!
That ending was funny as heck
Some of the best advice I've heard!!
Thank you for doing this.... very grateful.
Also, now my favorite Domain.com commercial EVER. :) I couldn't stop watching. :)
This was truly great. Thank you!
I've always been taught that acting the scene out or acting out the dialogue in front of them is a HUGE faux pas in directing. Partly because it can be seen by the actor as you doubting their capabilities (all though that applies mainly to professional actors) and partly because it can lead the actor to mimic your way of speaking rather than using their own speech patterns that come more natural to them. But we all have different directing styles and there are as many schools of directing as there is directors, after all. Just figured I'd share.
Really well explained😎,helping me as a starting filmmaker😊🎥🎬
#4 is some seriously pro advice.
thanks guys as always that was extremely helpful and useful.
Name of soundtrack coming in at 2:07?
OK this was an amazing video but I just can't ignore the outro 😂😂😂 LMAOOOO
This video was so awesome! Thanks so much
Awesome. What a great video.
LOL. Love your skits.
Great episode guys!! Thank you a lot!!
Great info! Thanks for sharing this advice!
Thank u for this Ryan 🙏🏿
Great info
This is very helpful thank you, and thank you also for the upcoming sale you are truly the best
Can Ricky share a list of all the equipment/gear he use for this short film!?
Can't wait to get my hands on those new luts, but.... when is the apparel coming back? It's almost been a year..
That film looks beautiful!
Holy sh*t! I've been searching for this content all my life. Thanks a lot guys!
Awesome as always👍🏻