Afuckingmen. A lot will see running away as being weak or pathetic and cowardly. Not me. I'm 6ft 6 and can look after myself, even though I'm not trained or have any martial art skills. If reasoning with someone or a group fails, then I'm on my toes as my main form of defence. The laughter and names called to my back as I increase distance only hurts my inate sense of pride as a man. But I won't wake up in A&E because someone called me a pussy. If you're cornered, then obviously that's a different situation.
The guy you are talking about is a beast from Israel and I think he has a chance with some of the most professional fighters out there, I’m no expert tho …
@@ronensegal1083 krav maga is not tested in any real fight situation or sport like MMA. we at least need to test it this way. my money is on MMA though.
@@celticph LoL. MMA is just considered a sport discipline. sport is not a real life. IDF tested KM in real life since 1948 as good i remember dates. comparing MMA vs KM is very very stupid. KM philosophy is to hit painfully and run.
@@tyushotoquick example. In karate competition you are training to get points where in real karate your are training for actual fighting on the street. So if you go to a dojo where they teach competion karate youre basically fuckt in the street.
Nah Joe knows the power of the bear. That's not a fight that you're going to win without a weapon. Even with a big ass knife I'd give a deadly human 1 to 200 odds. That bear can hurl you like a ragdoll and there is a huge amount of fat and muscle not to mention thick ass bones protecting it's vital organs. Joe knows.
The main issue with Krav Maga as taught for self defense, and the issue with most self defense courses is they last for a couple months of training then people think they are done. You have to keep practicing and training so that if the time to defend yourself comes your body has the muscle memory to kick in, cause your adrenalin will be through the roof and you wont have time to process and any hesitation will be the end of it.
That and the variation of trainers. Because not every trainer is equal in any martial art. You could have a kick ass karate instructor and learn to fight better than a bad boxing instructor. I feel that krav maga is especially suspectible to this because from what ive seen its weekend warrior types doing the training, but krav maga was created by the military which is where youll find the best practitioners of it imo
A lot of the people at the school I went to had been training for 3 plus years. Some over 7. Me personally, I trained for 9 months. Now I want to train in different mma techniques. I’m a wrestler from middle school up
That is not Krav maga. Krav maga is like any other sport. You have to keep on practicing if you want to get good at it. A few months of krav maga or any other sport will not make you a trained " something" that can survive a critical situation
I think he misunderstands what Krav Maga is. It's not "stabbing someone with your keys", necessarily, though it is something nearby. Krav Maga is essentially using the environment in combat as the situation demands. A man lunges to punch you while you're next ot a table or a car, so you block, and throw him over it. You're about to be attacked in your home, but you see a lamp, so you grab that mofo and break it over their head. This isn't to say that Krav Maga is better than MMA, but it seems like Joe didn't understand what it's supposed to be. Whether a Krav Maga specialist or an MMA specialist would win is all up to circumstance and experience.
Lol maybe Joe mistook fighting the wrong MAGA 😂. Soldiers use that Krav Maga. I don't think Trump MAGA supporters are trained fighters on that Israeli level, armed or not.
My Krav Maga instructor actually told us that the best way to win is to defuse and get out safely. Failing that, you're going to get hurt, and you need to hurt the other person worse. Krav is essentially coordinated dirty fighting.
@@GiantAsteroid-2024trained MMA guy doesn't scare me. cause he is used to fighting WITH RULES. Krav Maga would scare me. they don't fuck around. its just elbow to jaw, kick tbe knee, crotch punch. run
@@jeffreywilons1036 Whoa. Don't scare me, Mr r/iamverybadass. I'm sure you have nothing to fear from someone who can knock you out or break your bones, including your neck bones, even without going outside the unified rules of MMA.
It was made to give soldiers a false sense of comfort and ability so they'd be more likely to try and fight rather than run away. Anything that works in the ring works just as good, if not better, outside of it. Km on the other hand is full of stuff that will not work against a resisting opponent and definitely against a trained opponent
@@raven_1133 ever actually look at the history of Krav Maga, you ever actually look into it any. It's over eighty percent bullshido with poor stance and footwork like a drunk
@@raven_1133 ever actually look at the history of Krav Maga, you ever actually look into it any. It's over atety percent bullshido with poor stance and footwork like a drunk
@@raven_1133 ever actually look at the history of Krav Maga, you ever actually look into it any. It's well over half bullshido with poor stance and footwork like a drunk
As a good colleague of mine who's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu always says on this topic "Show me which black belt stops a table leg to the back of your head knocking you out"
Here's the thing, Krav Maga teaches you to be the guy with the table leg. 95% of Krav Maga instructors are fake af. But there is a very good reason, the Israeli forces use it. Watch how they train it. You train from disadvantage. You train being 1v3, you train unarmed Vs armed. You train using trash, sticks, bricks as weapons. Etc. Yeah you have some dumb asses, that teach it like a female self defence course. But it isn't.
Most martial arts have rules . People on the street do not . People trying to bust kung fu on thugs with knives , back up people to jump them , guns , lack of morals .
Yeah all the Krav Maga guy has to do is punch you in the windpipe. Rake your eyes out. We can play theoreticals all day. My favorite is head butting. I've messed up guys probably about Joe Rogan size by head butting them before being pulled away. Not saying the JJ guy can't win. I'm just saying it won't be as easy as Joe makes it seem that's all.
@@dianapennepacker6854 mixed martial arts is by far superior to Krav Maga. Justin gaethje would paralyze most people in a fight, not to mention a guy who can’t spar in his martial art
@@a_youtube_enjoyer3551 if there so perfect why do they get knocked out and subbed ever fight night being trained doesn’t increase you’re chances too 100 percent victory
People forget that krav maga have techniques from other styles too the krav maga instructor we had in military was a muay thai champion on my country krav its more like teaching you a different mindset rather than some specific style because most of the moves we learnt were from muay thai, judo, bjj and maybe some karate i think it was the kyokushin style so basically mma without rules i guess.
I took a Krav Maga course when I was in the military and I actually really liked it. I learned that no matter what I know or how good I am if someone comes at you with a knife you are gonna get cut. Y’all talk about it like it’s the end all be all but it’s literally just a course on getting you comfortable with doing literally anything to survive in a fight
@@SurEskar no it doesn't. Sometimes luck is in the unarmed guys favor. Othertimes, he takes wounds but outfights the attacker. A good portion of the time, the unarmed guy gets seriously injured or killed.
have three real life fights, life threatening, 2 against guy with knifes. I have no background in martial art whatsoever, i have sport background and im strong my only training in fighting is boxing (i was pretty good, cause im strong but really fast).. i didnt get cut anywhere... and i win both fights. the third was against someone armed with a gun but didnt finish well.... but im well and healthy soo.... you never know
Krav Maga is designed to teach one practical self defense quickly. If I am not mistaken, basic course taught to Israeli infantry is like 2 weeks. It is not an “art”. It’s a self-defense system. The problem is not with the system but we those who make it out to be more than what it is. But it’s not the system’s fault. Its excellent for what it is.
i think the problem with learning it for self defence is you can never really spar... despite what people say bjj sparing is no where near 100% most of the time either but its closer
In a ring the krav manga guy gets absolutely destroyed, outside it's debatable since all martial arts learn moved which would be illegal in a ring as a standard practice especially people who trained in multiple martial arts and you would have to be joking to think a mma guy can't fight dirty with groin punches or pokes if they don't want
@@mrslasher1403 Well yea, if caught by surprise and average man could knock out a trained fighter. But in a scenario where both fighters are pitted against one another then I'd go with MMA.
If musvle memory is so much important as u MMA fanboys say to then an illegal move as an exception for an MMA fighter on this specific situation is still at disadvantage Koji.
Krav Maga is really diluted in the US. I attended an online seminar on Krav held in Tela Viv a few years ago and the first thing the instructor talked about was that Krav Maga is extremely diluted in western countries because “Krav Maga’s goal is to teach Jews to survive.” He said that for you to learn real Krav you need to truly understand what’s at stake. When he started demonstrations, he talked about throwing sand in eyes, spitting as a distraction, clawing and biting, he emphasized the use of everything possible to escape. He really made it easy to understand that this is a combat for war, a combat thats soul purpose was to survive at any means necessary.
@@Atilakus you do know that if you practice Karv they include BJJ, Boxing and kickboxing into training right... It's basically MMA, but they teach you to stay on your feet to RUN. So again it's MMA, except NO rules applied and sportsmanship goes out the window
I agree, but only if you swap Krav with Ninjutsu. I can kill you with my shadow technique from 10 miles away thanks to my secret teachers in Secret Dojo.
Yeah, in a street fight wresteling somebody to the ground and holding them in a head lock will just get you kicked in the head by one of their friends.
@@TrueLedik I agree but sometimes there isent a way out to run. Or you run away they run after you and before you know it you ran in a dead end Street. Also I dont know if you have ever been in an extremely stressfull situation but your fight or fight reflex is an incontrolable reflex and sometimes it goes into fight mode. Also I Broke my knee in an accident I cant run for long or fast and If you know you wont be able to outrun them Every self defense expert will tell you to stand your ground because running away will make your attackers more agressive.
Are u dumb? Dude fought in taekwondo way before starting bjj, don’t get salty because krav maga is for idiots & u bought into it… loosen that helmet & go to a real gym
Exactly. In combat sports people study their opponents and train for their fight. On top of that, theres rules and a ref. While in the streets there are no rules and you have no clue who you going up against. They could have a weapon or a group that outnumbers you. Its never safe.
@@cripbk2147 if something works in the ring it works just as good, and a lot of times better, outside of it. That is a fact, someone who actively trains or has trained for a long time will make quick easy work of "street fighters" because street fighters hand no techniques, they don't know how to guard properly, can't react to set ups, easy to get around their defense, they don't have footwork, and that especially goes for km people because it's mostly bull with only very few things that could work but only if you actually know how to do them, the footwork is a mess. The stance is unbalanced, and don't get me started on the defense and pisspoor form of their strikes. Think for a few, who's more likely to actually kill, the guy who gets mad, sees red, and claims he'll kill while having no actual training, or the guy who knows how to break all of your limbs with ease and over twenty ways to block blood from coming or going to your brain (which will kill you in second when done correctly)
Honestly thats why they tell us to resort to dirty tactics so quickly. Eye gouges, groin kicks, literally tooth and nail. Cuz its not meant as a competitive style, its purely self defense. Tho I do think they count too much on the aggressor not having much skill
Well the idea behind krav Maga is purely self defense. Chances are if someone is attacking you on the street, they dont have any sort of training. The chances you are going to get into a fight with a highly trained fighter is slim to none. Krav is ultimately the mma of self defense. It assumes an uncontrolled environment where someone could have a weapon, multiple attackers and various ground conditions. For example a krav maga instructor would generally advise against a spin kick simply due to varying ground conditions or clothing that restricts mobilty being things that could make it ineffective
@@DemonicLemurreal technique can only be applied during full intensity sparring. If you practice your technique just while slowly training moves, when a 200+ pound guy is trying to slam you it won’t work. Sparring, is a necessity. You cannot fight without it, you will be pummeled quick. I can tell you that from experience
@@DemonicLemur krav sparring isn’t real sparring. Every time I roll a wave of fear hits me bc I know I’m about to get choked out or my arm might snap. There’s no real threat of danger sparring in krav. When a guy has you in full mount, and you can’t breathe, and are panicking, your krav won’t work. I don’t think it’s as effective as you think
using firearms in a range shorter than 120cm is stupid and gets you killed faster than u pull a trigger if someone is there to mug u, they will have a knife
I'm a pretty big guy and have done really well in street fights. I would never trust my size and mediocre skill above my de-esclation/ firearm skills. I'm a slow runner with bad joints. I can't run lol
@@ichigo12345100 there isnt just brazilian jiujitsu. Shorinji kan jiujitsu is mostly standing with throws and strikes based from traditional japanese jiujitsu
But Joe Rogan has also explained that Krav Maga is a legit martial art and that it is a combination of the best maneuvers from several other martial arts.
Joe is into Krav, he's into every martial art-people clown on him but the guy knows his shit. The reason why he says Krav Maga practitioners would lose despite being "badass, very cool and doesn't play by the rules" is that a lot of Krav Maga's strikes and tactics can only really be used against training dummies. For obvious reasons it can't be used in spars and they can't practice against other resisting, reacting people. People that are active in Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, actual combat sports, spar and spar often against people that are trying to stop them. They just get the experience that Krav Maga can't.
@@JustAJauneArc tell me you're and idiot without twlling me you're an idiot...cause thats a lot to say for someone who obviously knows nothing about Krav Maga if you really think its just training dummies. You are constantly sparring with different weapons and against a changing number of opponents, and if you're not, you aren't learning Krav Maga.
If you square up with someone and they drop to the floor on their own accord, you walk away as the victor because clearly they don’t want to fight, they want to cuddle.
Obviously someone who is armed is beating someone who is unarmed😂. Any Israeli commando would get mauled hand to hand by mma fighters. They don’t train hand to hand
Can you provide any video or news article in which a super duper commando used krav maga to subdued a MMA practitioner, in the ring or out in the streets? Didn't think so
Why is it always you retards that act like a BJJ guy cant also eyepoke? Bas rutten explained it well, if you try to eyepoke someone who has you in a RNC, prepare to get your neck broken. Theyre not gonna magically let go. Fucking smoothbrain logic
I've done MMA, BJJ and Krav Maga. Ultimately, the underlying rationale of Krav Maga is to survive at all costs in real life situations - which it attempts to teach. BJJ is problematic when your opponent is busy chewing through your arm 😂
@@DivestInnocence if they are trying eye gauge they won't be trying the bjj If the attacker is a bjj guy Strike their vital parts When you get caught poke their eyes out or bite what you can Or put your finger in their nose and strip it off their face or pull their ear off Or crush their testicles If you have a weapon then it's easier
@@fatyoutubepanda let's just ignore that you can fight to through the eye gouge, and also that you wouldn't be able to get close enough with your hand to do so in the first place with a competent practitioner. I see what you mean though
the aim of Krav Maga is to end a fight as soon as possible. It is a blend of martial arts, and is NOT designed for self defense, but rather for soldiers and LEOs to neutralize a threat safely and quickly
The reason Krav Maga and other self defense courses don’t translate to real life is bc there is very limited (if any) sparring. Having someone let you try moves on them without resistance doesn’t work in a fight
@@gordianknot6867i believe that he clearly meant and implied jiu jitsu guys with stand up grappling like wrestling or judo, those guys would fuck majority of people up
Aye, shame that that's how it generally goes. Been training in Krav Maga for years now at a place where we do stress test and spar frequently. It really helps.
An expert wrestler is not going to give you the option. He'll put you where he wants you and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop him. Krav maga is not a super power.
What do you mean? I have practise Krav Maga for 2 years and I stopped. Now Ive been doing BJJ for 2 months and I feel that I have learn much more in these 2 months than all I learned in those 2 years of Krav Maga.
@@carlbjorling6058because you must have shit teacher. I have learned Krav Maga in special forces while being at army. We were as brutal as possible. Throat , balls and eyes attacks all they long.
Joe is just being real here. Lack of competition has always been a weakness of Krav Maga. Whether you like to admit it or not, participating in competitions can really help u enhance your fighting abilities. The amount of repetitions u do in the gym, the strength and conditionings u do just to prepare for a ring fight all help u big time
"And the mixed Martial arts guy was a trained killer.. all around.." This line right here gives the entire context you need to understand this.. Krav Maga is not to be taken lightly...
Krav Maga would never beat BJJ in a cage. Why? Cuz the cage has rules. Take the rules out of the equation, make it life or death, Krav Maga wins every time. Krav Maga isn't a fighting style. It's a self defense technique. Warriors know the difference.
A man sitting in a bar having a beer was kicked off his stool, he looked up from the floor to see a man that said, that was karate from Japan. He got up and was flipped back to the floor. That was judo also from Japan. He gets up once again and is strucj back to floor. Kung-fu, from China. The man crawls to the door and leaves. A few minutes later the attacking man was sitting at the bar bragging about what he'd just done when he's suddenly knocked unconscious. That was crowbar from Harbor Freight. Moral of the story. There's always someone that knows more so stay humble
@@Derederi you completely missed the point, mma allows fight techniques that aren’t allowed (example:elbows aren’t allowed in boxing) in other fight sports
MMA is a massive load of bullshit that falls apart outside of the cage. Its popular among the beer drinking, shit kicking low income class of society. Dana White and Rogan are fucking geniuses the way that theyve promoted and advertised this absolute dogshit into being as heavily defended as it is. You idiots are as pathetic as the WWE guys that get up in arms when you tell them their dumb tv show is fake and they come bsck with "buh buh but its scripteddddd notttt fakeeeeee".
@snakezula9757 Wrong. My mma coach had some dipshit spouting the same nonsense you are and offered to fight the guy to the death right there and then and guy threatened to call the police. Krav Maga and every other LARP that claims to be too deadly for sport have only ever proven to be geh and fake
IDK I still feel like it's going to come down to blows. You can try to aim for the eyes but if it's really a life or death struggle you're probably already exhausted from the whole situation and you're adrenaline will be through the roof. Just like shooting teaches to aim for center mass, the safe bet is to just punch or strike in the face or body. Life or death situation isn't the time to get creative.
Krav Maga are only trained for self defense. They train to stop a threat as fast as possible. While an MMA fighter is trained to compete in a match with rules. Huge difference.
Most people don’t understand Krav Maga. Why was it developed? To enable people with little training and no background to effectively defend themself from most people in hand to hand combat. It isn’t about being the best fighting style or about being the most technical and dangerous one. It mainly focuses on ending fights as fast as possible or giving you the opportunity to run (or use your weapon in the military context). In these things Krav Maga is unbeatable. Half a year and you will have learnt lots of things - and it’s easy to expand your knowledge into different styles. One day of training every week is enough to effectively learn to defend yourself. With other fighting styles it’s very different. They might be more dangerous or feature more stuff… But it takes way longer to actually be a threat and you need to train A LOT. It needs to be your passion.
Krav Maga is a survival art form. I would describe is as a modern day/survival Jeet Kune Do. What makes this debate silly is that Jui Jitsu is a component of Krav Maga. A person can get ambushed, fall to the ground, and have to fight their way out of it. Krav Maga prepares you for that. Like the Naval Seals, the goal is to get in do your damage and get out. It functions without rules. Jiu jitsu has rules. No one can predict the outcome of a street fight. Anyone comparing the two systems is ignorant of Krav Maga. It welcomes all styles but not all styles apply because this system employs lethal force. It will impair the attacker's ability to stand, breath, and see quite efficiently. In the end if a person slights Krav Maga, he is also sighting jiu-jitsu.
Idk, I've personally stated...I'm going to be standing over this idiot in 30 secs...and yes. Also me: that dudes going to knock me out...and yes Personally I'm decent at prediction of fights 😅
Just had to remind the fact that 6 to 8 trained professionals in juijitsu did a test in which they tried to evade a stabbing and every single one failed to a normal person stabbing them with a pen
I know someone who has actually in real fights (hes a blue belt btw) with two guys who had knives he was detaining them border security stuff and he was rolling with them to take control of them they pulled out knives and he managed to control it and not get stabbed but its all up to luck man honestly you may not get stabbed but you will get cut for sure
@@DmitriBoryenkavich No they don't and if they do, the guy who is on the ground will get smothered. Why do people keep regurgitating this BS, that it ends up on the ground
@@DmitriBoryenkavichI've been in fights as well - and when they go to the ground, it's because the other dude WANTS to go to the ground, and successfully manages to take it there. Otherwise... only ONE guy is going to the ground, and that's because he lost.
I'm trained in Krav Maga. I'm training in MMA. MMA is better than Krav Maga because MMA actually has battle tested techniques through sparring. Krav Maga is just theoretical because they don't test it with sparring.
It also takes freely from any martial arts. We had guys who trained mma and juijutsi training krav maga with us. In krav maga you learn about situational awarness, how to run away, how to use improvised tools etc. If a jujitsu guy throws you to the ground and you cant win there, an appropriate krav maga "technique" could be to get a rock from the ground and smash his head. Ot literally anything else. There are bo matches in krav maga and no rules.
Krav maga is about offering easy to remember, duct-tape solutions for soldiers who don't have the time to be trained as hand to hand specialist. There are a billion other skills that soldiers need much more, and time spent turning them into elite hand ot hand fighters is time better spent on other things. The meme that military fighting systems are somehow better is honestly, pretty stupid. And it's born out of this "military = badass" meme. Krav maga is like duct tape. It offers some quick, hyper aggressive techniques and drills for soldiers to use in a pinch. In that context, krav maga is really effective. It is not a substitute for, more dangerous than, or more effective than actual, dedicated hand to hand training with a rounded curriculum. And people who don't know anything about fighting need to stop pretending that it is.
KM is about protecting yourself from regular knackers, I've never met a BJJ or a MMA fighter going around threatening people. These are different situational techniques. KM won't stand against a BJJ or MMA but then again what's your usual threat on the street.. Slice the MF with anything you've got. KM is not training to compete..
@@evil001987 Krav has the same problem Aikido has. They have all these techniques and situations they drill. But they've never actually done it. Like, Krav guys aren't bashing dudes heads with rocks while being strangled or joint locked to the point of breakage. I mean sure, the idea is there. "Okay, he takes me down, and I'll get the rock like I did in practice and oh shit where's the rock? Wait wha-" annnd strangled. Just like Aikido guys have all these wrist breaks and arm snaps, and they flip you and smash your spine and tear out your soul and the whole nine yards. And they've never done any of it. That's why a wrestler is dangerous. Cuz he's taken guys down a million times. I don't know how many times I've been told "If you tried to choke me, or got me in a choke hold, I'd rip your eye out." OKay, how many eyes have you ripped out? While being choked at that? Zero? Then how the fuck do you know you can even pull that off? Before you go out? What if a guy takes you down in a mall, and you reach for the rock...and there are no rocks and oh fuck he just broke your arm? Say whatever you want about the Big 4 grappling arts, but they know what they can do, because they've done it.
@MaxxCoyote I got jumped by three guys last November. I ran because I was outnumbered, which is something you train to keep as an option in krav. After 20 meters, I grabbed a rock, turned around, and smashed it into the guy closest to me. By that point, the other two were farther away. I went down, but not unconscious. His buddies stopped to help him. I got away unhurt. Fancy fighting? Not at all. But all of it was stuff trained for in krav.
My bjj coach always makes sure to point out, “he can bite your thigh here”. Trust me, a purple belt or higher in bjj, NOTHING on gods green earth will save you.
Or.. combine them both together 🤯 Krav Maga is more of a philosophy than a martial art discipline. But I would say someone that does both has an advantage over just one or the other. Train both together, ideally alongside Muay Thai & Kali and you’ll be a fairly well-rounded fighter.
Sparring and grappling are so important to honing that combat instinct…your reactions become automatic and you subconsciously begin to recognize patterns in human body language that initiate attacks
I'd be more afraid of a guy who practices half the time versus a pro. Atleast the pro would know how to hold back and dismantle the average guy quick. The who practices half might just unleash a full on kick to your ribs with a side of bbq sauce.
@@DefeatLust absolutely not, Rousimar Palhares is a prime example why the pro is so much more dangerous. Joe said a trained killer and palhares isn't even a killer like that, but he still has crippled so many mma fighters just with submissions because he didn't care and just wanted to hurt people. If you're in a life or death with a pro who actually thinks they're in real danger you will not leave the situation.
@comment2122 if I'm in a life or death fight with anyone neither of us is going home after. one of us is leaving In a body bag and the other is leaving in cuffs
Typical BJJ mentality. The issue with BJJ in a street attack, is that 1, you’ve never been punched in the face, and 2, you’ll take it straight to the ground, where his buddies will then proceed to kick your head in or stab you in the back
That is the reality of the streets , I can confidently say a street fight that starts with two people never ends with two people , always more people jumping in from both sides ….
@@racenugent2193 Why would you be attempting to roll with a guy in self defense if you have a friend that’s armed? There’s always a dumb guy like you around trying to defend Ju Jitsu lol. It’s outdated. Wrestling is proving to be far superior
yeah grappling works out great until the guy on the receiving end pulls the knife he had in his pockets if I wanted to learn anything close I'd learn judo, throw 'em to the floor but not bring myself down with em
I met a Special Forces Operator at a gun range a few years back. I was prior service army, so we talked a little bit about different fighting styles. Basically, at the end of that, he said he would never used jujitsu. Every bad Guy has a buddy or two.
Yeah people criticise a lot of martial arts that dont have any ground work, but in a confrontation like that the LAST place you wanna be is on your back. Really the only ground work you shoild work on is how to get up from the ground as quickly as possible.
I’d prefer to know judo at a fairly high level over bjj personally, if my goal was to be more well versed at self defense. Being able to throw someone off balance or slam them to the ground while maintaining a standing position would be infinitely better than going to the ground.
@@stealthyturtles judo can be extremely helpful combined with wrestling. As u said the ability to toss someone onto the concrete and maintain a standing or dominant position is key to your safety. Unless u end up getting tagged quickly nd dnt have much of a chin the fight will somehow end up in a clinch once the striking distance gets closed. Learning tosses and trips, Pulling and tugging on a gi in Judo will definitely be useful.
"Krav Maga is useless because if someone who is way better at fighting knocks you down and beats your ass you can't use it." Joe sounds so damn dumb sometimes. Like you can't use jiu jitsu on a guy if they snap your elbows and send the bottom of your sternum into your lungs, that doesn't make it useless.
Well, Krav Maga wasn't designed for sustained fighting. It was originally designed for the Israeli military to get out of a situation enough to deploy more lethal weapons on the battlefield. When I was still in the USAF Security Forces, we didn't have any combative programs at that time. So, I turned in Krav Maga to help me do just that. I'm not saying anything bad about mixed martial arts. It's still effective. But, most people who train in it are taught to follow rules. In a life or death situation, there are no rules. Krav Maga is just another tool in the toolbox to aid you into going home safe to your loved ones.
Tell me you don't fight without telling me you dont fight, you can be the better fighter and still lose, I'd just delete the comment if I was you😂 you really thought you were saying something good lmao
@@ItsAme7143 maybe not will lose, but the odds are against u that's his point. I've won again many people far more skilled then me it's more how well u connect rather then how much time u spend in a gym😂
@@loud4life920 I feel like winning a fight has to do with being more effective and having the better skills is definitely an advantage but styles make fights, this guy J is acting like it's black and white and if you're better then you win and that's just goofy😂👌
@@ItsAme7143 I think the idea is that it doesn't depend about the style as much as about the skills/level you have. Take someone doing Krav Maga or Systema for some time and put him against "someone really good at BJJ", of course he will lose. But what about someone doing amateur BJJ against a Russian Spetsnaz who trained systems to a high level?
There's a difference between fighting with honor in a match with rules and fighting to kill breaking fingers, poking eyes, hitting testicles and throat.
That's not really the relevant scenario though. Krav guy vs untrained but armed multiple opponents, and BJJ guy vs those same opponents is the question that counts.
@@rtxmax8223 mostly just effective at running away and assassination. They werent big on combat and nost shinobi were just spies or couriers delivering intel. They were know match for samurai even in 1v1
@@IAteYourSandwich actually this is false. We don't know how many Shinobi were samurai. But Shinobi were pulled from both ASHIGARU AND SAMURAI. Which were two different classes
@@bitchface235 I was referring to your comment of most shinobi standing no chance vs a samurai. Considering samurai is a social class and not a job, that is entirely dependent on if the shinobi is also a samurai, and what job said samurai has. Ashigaru were basically conscripted footsoldiers and were forbidden from having another job. So IDK if they could be shinobi. There very likely were shinobi posing as ashigaru, as they would have needed ears everywhere. However, if you want to be technical 🤓 ashigaru were also known as “samurai of the land” so even if they did become shinobi, they would also be samurai. 🤓 But eh, I know more about medieval europe.
Says the guy who hasn't trained shit. there are multiple videos of guys holding people down and choking them out. My coach has kept a guy down while beating him in
It doesn't matter the martial art/practice. A good instructor makes the difference for winning. You can have the natural teeth and instincts, but your training makes a HUGE difference.
As a person who is in martial arts their entire life , I can confirm that the 100 m dash is by far the best discipline at self defense.
Afuckingmen. A lot will see running away as being weak or pathetic and cowardly. Not me. I'm 6ft 6 and can look after myself, even though I'm not trained or have any martial art skills. If reasoning with someone or a group fails, then I'm on my toes as my main form of defence. The laughter and names called to my back as I increase distance only hurts my inate sense of pride as a man. But I won't wake up in A&E because someone called me a pussy. If you're cornered, then obviously that's a different situation.
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@@chadtyrone delete this 🔥🔥🔥
My bro said joestar secret technique lol😂
"Jamie, pull up that video of a grizzly bear that knows krav maga."
The guy you are talking about is a beast from Israel and I think he has a chance with some of the most professional fighters out there, I’m no expert tho …
@@ronensegal1083 you people are the reason everyone is making fun of this stupid hot take.
@@ronensegal1083 krav maga is not tested in any real fight situation or sport like MMA. we at least need to test it this way. my money is on MMA though.
@@ronensegal1083bro he's making a joke about Joe's passion for bears 😂
@@celticph LoL. MMA is just considered a sport discipline. sport is not a real life. IDF tested KM in real life since 1948 as good i remember dates. comparing MMA vs KM is very very stupid. KM philosophy is to hit painfully and run.
People always confuse self defense vs combat vs competition.
Whats the difference between competition and combat
@@tyushoto rules
@@tyushotorules and weapons and getting outnumbered and jumped
Well said. It's two entirely different systems for two entirely different purposes.
@@tyushotoquick example. In karate competition you are training to get points where in real karate your are training for actual fighting on the street. So if you go to a dojo where they teach competion karate youre basically fuckt in the street.
"A person with 5 months of BJJ can stop a nuclear warhead coming at them" Roe Jogan
A person with 5 months of BJJ can stop a person with 0 months of BJJ.
@@gabe4247gun
Also you can survive any plane crash if you have perfect Boxing technique
Easy shit, just put the neutrons in an armbar
With 3 months of Muay Thai you can escape a black hole.
"If they trip you, get you on your back, pull your pants down, good luck"
Ayo?? 💀
@@magnesjberg24 Ikr was out of pocket
😂😂😂
Better pray u still intact😂
@@DiabolicalNihilist also out off the pants
when a grizzly runs at a jiu jitsu guy, it's such a paradox that joe rogan's head would immediately explode
😂😂😂👍
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Nah Joe knows the power of the bear. That's not a fight that you're going to win without a weapon. Even with a big ass knife I'd give a deadly human 1 to 200 odds. That bear can hurl you like a ragdoll and there is a huge amount of fat and muscle not to mention thick ass bones protecting it's vital organs. Joe knows.
*Joe falls out his chair*
The main issue with Krav Maga as taught for self defense, and the issue with most self defense courses is they last for a couple months of training then people think they are done. You have to keep practicing and training so that if the time to defend yourself comes your body has the muscle memory to kick in, cause your adrenalin will be through the roof and you wont have time to process and any hesitation will be the end of it.
That and the variation of trainers. Because not every trainer is equal in any martial art. You could have a kick ass karate instructor and learn to fight better than a bad boxing instructor. I feel that krav maga is especially suspectible to this because from what ive seen its weekend warrior types doing the training, but krav maga was created by the military which is where youll find the best practitioners of it imo
A lot of the people at the school I went to had been training for 3 plus years. Some over 7. Me personally, I trained for 9 months. Now I want to train in different mma techniques. I’m a wrestler from middle school up
That is not Krav maga. Krav maga is like any other sport. You have to keep on practicing if you want to get good at it. A few months of krav maga or any other sport will not make you a trained " something" that can survive a critical situation
@@jope76 In the KM school I am attending, it takes at least 5 years to get a blackbelt in Krav Maga.
I just started training today. Paid for a year. I’m not going to quit!!
I think he misunderstands what Krav Maga is. It's not "stabbing someone with your keys", necessarily, though it is something nearby. Krav Maga is essentially using the environment in combat as the situation demands. A man lunges to punch you while you're next ot a table or a car, so you block, and throw him over it. You're about to be attacked in your home, but you see a lamp, so you grab that mofo and break it over their head. This isn't to say that Krav Maga is better than MMA, but it seems like Joe didn't understand what it's supposed to be. Whether a Krav Maga specialist or an MMA specialist would win is all up to circumstance and experience.
Lol maybe Joe mistook fighting the wrong MAGA 😂. Soldiers use that Krav Maga. I don't think Trump MAGA supporters are trained fighters on that Israeli level, armed or not.
@@MrVariantmost of those soldiers are MAGA though. So you’d be wrong.
@@basher3804 why would those soldiers be Trump supporters given Biden funding Israel?
So, why do you need to take Krav Maga classes to bust people with the environment?
@@basher3804make Arizona good again
"If you fire a rocket at a guy who knows his jiu-jitsu.. your going down man"
This is gold.
You're
Yeah, I’m getting arrested for being Smart
Brother.
I love Jits, my kids have started now as well at 5 and 3years old but this is the common argument around it. Jits fixes all problems in life
They’re both screwed when they step up to a hot yoga guy😤
I LOVE the 26, but Bikram teaches to neither take nor throw a punch. Sry fam
I’d be too turned on to fight back 😍
what the fuck is hot yoga
Russian Systema beats all martial arts
yoga fire, yoga fire, yoga fire. Yoga FLAME!
My Krav Maga instructor actually told us that the best way to win is to defuse and get out safely. Failing that, you're going to get hurt, and you need to hurt the other person worse. Krav is essentially coordinated dirty fighting.
Which is fine so long as the other guy isn't an all round MMA trained killer, in which case your sprinting needs to be on point.
@@GiantAsteroid-2024 His nutsack is still getting popped.
True
@@GiantAsteroid-2024trained MMA guy doesn't scare me. cause he is used to fighting WITH RULES. Krav Maga would scare me. they don't fuck around. its just elbow to jaw, kick tbe knee, crotch punch. run
@@jeffreywilons1036 Whoa. Don't scare me, Mr r/iamverybadass.
I'm sure you have nothing to fear from someone who can knock you out or break your bones, including your neck bones, even without going outside the unified rules of MMA.
Joe Rogan doesn’t realize the Brazilian jujitsu is part of Krav Maga curriculum. 😢
Everybody gangsta until pilates guy pulls up
Do NOT sleep on the pilates guy.
@Pattyfin6985 nah I'm crying, that shit was funny 😂😂😂
Oh God, is this a Viral Hit reference?
bro stop 💀
I've never seen the pilates strikes...are they pretty good?
Joe "if batman had an eternity of prep time he couldn't beat someone with 6 months of training in jiu-jitsu" Rogan
Except Batman knows Jiu-jitsu lmao
u missed the joke mr mentally slow
Bane beats the shit out of him. I'd call bane an MMA fighter
Oh you took a walk down exaggerate alley I see.
How tf yall on Joe rogans defense? He is a fucking idiot
Dude… training to kill somebody is very different than training to fight by rules. This is why the navy seals versus MMA argument is moot.
Like bro, Krav Maga was made for the military, not for shows.
It was made to give soldiers a false sense of comfort and ability so they'd be more likely to try and fight rather than run away. Anything that works in the ring works just as good, if not better, outside of it. Km on the other hand is full of stuff that will not work against a resisting opponent and definitely against a trained opponent
@@Idiotic-impulses What the hell do you mean? Ever heard of CQC?
@@raven_1133 ever actually look at the history of Krav Maga, you ever actually look into it any. It's over eighty percent bullshido with poor stance and footwork like a drunk
@@raven_1133 ever actually look at the history of Krav Maga, you ever actually look into it any. It's over atety percent bullshido with poor stance and footwork like a drunk
@@raven_1133 ever actually look at the history of Krav Maga, you ever actually look into it any. It's well over half bullshido with poor stance and footwork like a drunk
As a good colleague of mine who's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu always says on this topic "Show me which black belt stops a table leg to the back of your head knocking you out"
Tae Kwon Do! Cos table legs don't exist in the exhibition realm
I think A Black Belt in Sword Wielding might help.
Here's the thing, Krav Maga teaches you to be the guy with the table leg. 95% of Krav Maga instructors are fake af.
But there is a very good reason, the Israeli forces use it. Watch how they train it. You train from disadvantage. You train being 1v3, you train unarmed Vs armed. You train using trash, sticks, bricks as weapons. Etc.
Yeah you have some dumb asses, that teach it like a female self defence course. But it isn't.
street smarts
Mma guy: stopping a table leg? For what? Just slip through and give him a good heavy punch in the liver.
MMA guy: I don't have any rules.
Krav Maga guy: I would break all rules of humanity, in the name of self defense
And not a single bit of my rule breaking would work
@@USA_UNITED1776 why not?
@@b8IIin if you know martial arts you know krav maga is useless
@Moyai Drip You'd be crying for days if you got kicked in the balls or had your teeth pulled out forcibly little timmy
Most martial arts have rules . People on the street do not . People trying to bust kung fu on thugs with knives , back up people to jump them , guns , lack of morals .
I love how Joe Rogan thinks knowing Jiu-Jitsu makes you invulnerable
Yeah all the Krav Maga guy has to do is punch you in the windpipe. Rake your eyes out.
We can play theoreticals all day.
My favorite is head butting. I've messed up guys probably about Joe Rogan size by head butting them before being pulled away.
Not saying the JJ guy can't win. I'm just saying it won't be as easy as Joe makes it seem that's all.
@@dianapennepacker6854 mixed martial arts is by far superior to Krav Maga. Justin gaethje would paralyze most people in a fight, not to mention a guy who can’t spar in his martial art
@@a_youtube_enjoyer3551nope getting a finger in the eye and someone biting you’re neck gonna win
@@williammclaughlin8205 dude. If you think an mma fighter would not immediately stop your toes or head kick you your crazy
@@a_youtube_enjoyer3551 if there so perfect why do they get knocked out and subbed ever fight night being trained doesn’t increase you’re chances too 100 percent victory
People forget that krav maga have techniques from other styles too the krav maga instructor we had in military was a muay thai champion on my country krav its more like teaching you a different mindset rather than some specific style because most of the moves we learnt were from muay thai, judo, bjj and maybe some karate i think it was the kyokushin style so basically mma without rules i guess.
I took a Krav Maga course when I was in the military and I actually really liked it. I learned that no matter what I know or how good I am if someone comes at you with a knife you are gonna get cut. Y’all talk about it like it’s the end all be all but it’s literally just a course on getting you comfortable with doing literally anything to survive in a fight
It depends who is using the knife. Have seen how an athlete knocked out a guy with a knife on the street fight. It really depends.
You can learn that by taking combatives in the Army.
@@SurEskar no it doesn't. Sometimes luck is in the unarmed guys favor. Othertimes, he takes wounds but outfights the attacker. A good portion of the time, the unarmed guy gets seriously injured or killed.
have three real life fights, life threatening, 2 against guy with knifes. I have no background in martial art whatsoever, i have sport background and im strong my only training in fighting is boxing (i was pretty good, cause im strong but really fast).. i didnt get cut anywhere... and i win both fights. the third was against someone armed with a gun but didnt finish well.... but im well and healthy soo.... you never know
@@german18072 what did you do to survive the knife fight?
If some guy calls in an airstrike, that Jujitsu isn't gonna save you.
I forgot that airstrikes are a regular part of street fights
Yeah it will, he'll just jump onto the bombs anime style. Easily done 😏
😂🤣 damn tell me you are upset by not telling me you are upset.
@@NamesAbhay the fuck are you on rn?
False, he’ll trip them away
Krav Maga is designed to teach one practical self defense quickly. If I am not mistaken, basic course taught to Israeli infantry is like 2 weeks. It is not an “art”. It’s a self-defense system. The problem is not with the system but we those who make it out to be more than what it is. But it’s not the system’s fault. Its excellent for what it is.
i think the problem with learning it for self defence is you can never really spar... despite what people say bjj sparing is no where near 100% most of the time either but its closer
MMA: trains to fight👋
Crav Maga: trains to kill💀
You choose🤷🏻♂️
Most of Krav Maga is BS. Just like how people think military soldiers can beat MMA fighters in hand to hand combat.
In a ring the krav manga guy gets absolutely destroyed, outside it's debatable since all martial arts learn moved which would be illegal in a ring as a standard practice especially people who trained in multiple martial arts and you would have to be joking to think a mma guy can't fight dirty with groin punches or pokes if they don't want
@@mrslasher1403 Well yea, if caught by surprise and average man could knock out a trained fighter. But in a scenario where both fighters are pitted against one another then I'd go with MMA.
Facts
If musvle memory is so much important as u MMA fanboys say to then an illegal move as an exception for an MMA fighter on this specific situation is still at disadvantage Koji.
Krav Maga is really diluted in the US. I attended an online seminar on Krav held in Tela Viv a few years ago and the first thing the instructor talked about was that Krav Maga is extremely diluted in western countries because “Krav Maga’s goal is to teach Jews to survive.” He said that for you to learn real Krav you need to truly understand what’s at stake. When he started demonstrations, he talked about throwing sand in eyes, spitting as a distraction, clawing and biting, he emphasized the use of everything possible to escape. He really made it easy to understand that this is a combat for war, a combat thats soul purpose was to survive at any means necessary.
Yeah throwing sand is grear double leg defence and you can 100% stop high kick to the face by spitting.
@@Atilakus wow you're an idiot
I'm pretty sure if George St pierre is allowed to "claw" and eye gouge he's going to annihilate a krav maga dude
@@Atilakus you do know that if you practice Karv they include BJJ, Boxing and kickboxing into training right... It's basically MMA, but they teach you to stay on your feet to RUN. So again it's MMA, except NO rules applied and sportsmanship goes out the window
I agree, but only if you swap Krav with Ninjutsu. I can kill you with my shadow technique from 10 miles away thanks to my secret teachers in Secret Dojo.
Joe Rogan they type of guy to say, “ if you pull out a gun on a guy who knows jujitsu… your the dead man not him .”
😂
Nah not really
😂😂😂😂
@@Rowsy91 he really is though
Nahh, he just now that krav shit maga is useless
This is why I always keep fleeing the scene, pissing myself and crying at the forefront of my defense techniques.
Everybody's got a plan, untill they get punched innthe face. Mike Tyson
Yeah, in a street fight wresteling somebody to the ground and holding them in a head lock will just get you kicked in the head by one of their friends.
Why would you even fight someone who has friend by their side while you have none?
@Ledik Dope maybe his friends didn't know anything was happening until they heard their friend fighting and came over to help out
@@TrueLedik I agree but sometimes there isent a way out to run. Or you run away they run after you and before you know it you ran in a dead end Street. Also I dont know if you have ever been in an extremely stressfull situation but your fight or fight reflex is an incontrolable reflex and sometimes it goes into fight mode. Also I Broke my knee in an accident I cant run for long or fast and If you know you wont be able to outrun them Every self defense expert will tell you to stand your ground because running away will make your attackers more agressive.
You do realize Wrestlers can also slam you concrete floor right? 🤦♂️
Yeah, if you are attacked by multiple people all martial arts break down.
Good old Joe Rogan. He's a BJJ guy so he'll go down on that ship. He'll swear all day long that BJJ is the way to stop a nuclear warhead
And krav maga is the way to stop a nuclear warhead?
Are u dumb? Dude fought in taekwondo way before starting bjj, don’t get salty because krav maga is for idiots & u bought into it… loosen that helmet & go to a real gym
Bro you do realize that joe rogan has a solid kickboxing record as well as one of the hardest kicks ever recorded...
He's a tae kwon do guy
If your oppponent controls the ground and can strike well, good luck when you fall.
In the end, it all goes down to who's more willing to actually kill. I mean, in real life, not in professional fights.
Exactly. In combat sports people study their opponents and train for their fight. On top of that, theres rules and a ref. While in the streets there are no rules and you have no clue who you going up against. They could have a weapon or a group that outnumbers you. Its never safe.
@@cripbk2147I can tell you’ve never been in the ring, or grappled with someone who knows what they’re doing.
@@cripbk2147 if something works in the ring it works just as good, and a lot of times better, outside of it. That is a fact, someone who actively trains or has trained for a long time will make quick easy work of "street fighters" because street fighters hand no techniques, they don't know how to guard properly, can't react to set ups, easy to get around their defense, they don't have footwork, and that especially goes for km people because it's mostly bull with only very few things that could work but only if you actually know how to do them, the footwork is a mess. The stance is unbalanced, and don't get me started on the defense and pisspoor form of their strikes. Think for a few, who's more likely to actually kill, the guy who gets mad, sees red, and claims he'll kill while having no actual training, or the guy who knows how to break all of your limbs with ease and over twenty ways to block blood from coming or going to your brain (which will kill you in second when done correctly)
Honestly thats why they tell us to resort to dirty tactics so quickly. Eye gouges, groin kicks, literally tooth and nail. Cuz its not meant as a competitive style, its purely self defense. Tho I do think they count too much on the aggressor not having much skill
Well the idea behind krav Maga is purely self defense. Chances are if someone is attacking you on the street, they dont have any sort of training.
The chances you are going to get into a fight with a highly trained fighter is slim to none.
Krav is ultimately the mma of self defense. It assumes an uncontrolled environment where someone could have a weapon, multiple attackers and various ground conditions.
For example a krav maga instructor would generally advise against a spin kick simply due to varying ground conditions or clothing that restricts mobilty being things that could make it ineffective
@@DemonicLemurreal technique can only be applied during full intensity sparring. If you practice your technique just while slowly training moves, when a 200+ pound guy is trying to slam you it won’t work. Sparring, is a necessity. You cannot fight without it, you will be pummeled quick. I can tell you that from experience
@@esfbse8347 krav has sparring just with the same rules as most styles. What point are you making
@@DemonicLemur krav sparring isn’t real sparring. Every time I roll a wave of fear hits me bc I know I’m about to get choked out or my arm might snap. There’s no real threat of danger sparring in krav. When a guy has you in full mount, and you can’t breathe, and are panicking, your krav won’t work. I don’t think it’s as effective as you think
@@DemonicLemur you can only learn to fight against a fully resisting opponent, otherwise it’s useless
That’s why it’s important to learn two things for self defense, running away and handgun accuracy.
using firearms in a range shorter than 120cm is stupid and gets you killed faster than u pull a trigger if someone is there to mug u, they will have a knife
Ehhh, gl with that in commie countries....
I'm a pretty big guy and have done really well in street fights. I would never trust my size and mediocre skill above my de-esclation/ firearm skills. I'm a slow runner with bad joints. I can't run lol
@@kaspier1924You mean in any country other than the US
@@-_Jayden_- the us is one of the biggest commie country fam.
Then the dude’s friend comes and stomps your head while you’re rolling around
MMA is not soley about grappling smh
@@King-pv8fk He talk about jiu jitsu
@@ichigo12345100 there isnt just brazilian jiujitsu. Shorinji kan jiujitsu is mostly standing with throws and strikes based from traditional japanese jiujitsu
@@King-pv8fk it’s about butt fucking too. 😂 stop licking Poe chogans japs eye
Guy I went to highschool with took a running start soccer kick to a dudes face who was on all 4s getting up. It obliterated dudes foot
Everyone thinks they’re martial art is the best until the Zumba instructor pulls up
I'd go with, MMA has banned Krav Maga but not Jujitsu
@@paulmcphillips7540 most of us train to not get whooped in the street. Not to become a UFC fighter
But Joe Rogan has also explained that Krav Maga is a legit martial art and that it is a combination of the best maneuvers from several other martial arts.
If Joe was into Krav, the script would be flipped.
Exactly what I was thinking. I trained in Krav Maga, and it’s bad ass man.
Facts
@@clinicalpsychologist and you dont have to have a dudes sweaty ass and balls in your face.
Joe is into Krav, he's into every martial art-people clown on him but the guy knows his shit.
The reason why he says Krav Maga practitioners would lose despite being "badass, very cool and doesn't play by the rules" is that a lot of Krav Maga's strikes and tactics can only really be used against training dummies. For obvious reasons it can't be used in spars and they can't practice against other resisting, reacting people.
People that are active in Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, actual combat sports, spar and spar often against people that are trying to stop them. They just get the experience that Krav Maga can't.
@@JustAJauneArc tell me you're and idiot without twlling me you're an idiot...cause thats a lot to say for someone who obviously knows nothing about Krav Maga if you really think its just training dummies. You are constantly sparring with different weapons and against a changing number of opponents, and if you're not, you aren't learning Krav Maga.
When you square up with someone and he drops to the floor and started the shrimping drill, you better run.
😂
If you square up with someone and they drop to the floor on their own accord, you walk away as the victor because clearly they don’t want to fight, they want to cuddle.
😂
you stomp their head in
Just spit on them and walk away 😂
Try it with an Israeli Commando who uses Krav Maga-Keys won't be used;a Ka-Bar knife will put an end to any BBJ/MMA guy once it connects
Obviously someone who is armed is beating someone who is unarmed😂. Any Israeli commando would get mauled hand to hand by mma fighters. They don’t train hand to hand
Can you provide any video or news article in which a super duper commando used krav maga to subdued a MMA practitioner, in the ring or out in the streets? Didn't think so
Yeah every MMA guy has a plan until you rip their freaking ears off.
Lmao what?
And every krav maga guy has a plan until Jon jones scrambles their retinas out
Self defence rule 1:
Don't drop the soap
That's all-around good life advice!
Its not dropping the soap.. its picking it up..
Pink bath water running down the stairs 😢
@@drewsmith9809nah i dont want my ass beated by big black guy 🤷
What if the soap was the distraction?
Remember that overconfidence is everyone's downfall...
Yes and no.
Joe's head is almost as big as his mouth.
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer...
@@WarEmperor5 what happened to war emperor 1-4???
@@gregoryanderson832 They are gone. I consumed them.
Krav Maga was designed for military, fighting is very different when you have combat gear on.
We don't use keys. We pull a gun from our boob holder.
Doesn’t matter how good you are at JJ nothing is removing thumbs out of your eyes bro
☝️🤓
I could show you 5 moves from scratch that remove your thumbs from any face
@@VladAndreiDracul doubt they’d work tbh
@@VladAndreiDracul Brother, if someone put his finger in ur eye and press it, you will forget everry move out of the 5 you know.
Why is it always you retards that act like a BJJ guy cant also eyepoke? Bas rutten explained it well, if you try to eyepoke someone who has you in a RNC, prepare to get your neck broken. Theyre not gonna magically let go.
Fucking smoothbrain logic
I've done MMA, BJJ and Krav Maga. Ultimately, the underlying rationale of Krav Maga is to survive at all costs in real life situations - which it attempts to teach. BJJ is problematic when your opponent is busy chewing through your arm 😂
Biting a guy who as your back in a year naked choke is a good way to have your eye socket fishhooked and then get choked to death.
If eye poke is allowed bjj is done
You don’t think guys that do BJJ know how to eye gouge?
@@DivestInnocence if they are trying eye gauge they won't be trying the bjj
If the attacker is a bjj guy
Strike their vital parts
When you get caught poke their eyes out or bite what you can
Or put your finger in their nose and strip it off their face or pull their ear off
Or crush their testicles
If you have a weapon then it's easier
@@fatyoutubepanda let's just ignore that you can fight to through the eye gouge, and also that you wouldn't be able to get close enough with your hand to do so in the first place with a competent practitioner. I see what you mean though
I disagree with everything he says.
MMA trains you TO FIGHT.
Krav Maga trains you to END THE FIGHT.
the aim of Krav Maga is to end a fight as soon as possible. It is a blend of martial arts, and is NOT designed for self defense, but rather for soldiers and LEOs to neutralize a threat safely and quickly
The reason Krav Maga and other self defense courses don’t translate to real life is bc there is very limited (if any) sparring. Having someone let you try moves on them without resistance doesn’t work in a fight
Exactly, and it’s a sport, theres no rules in a street fight. If those juijitsu guys start rolling around they’ll just get their heads stomped on.
@@gordianknot6867 u missed his point. He was criticizing krav maga.
@@gordianknot6867i believe that he clearly meant and implied jiu jitsu guys with stand up grappling like wrestling or judo, those guys would fuck majority of people up
Aye, shame that that's how it generally goes. Been training in Krav Maga for years now at a place where we do stress test and spar frequently. It really helps.
I do Krav Maga and our club spars and does resistance drills, not sure where you're getting this from
Krav Maga teaches you to avoid ending up on the ground at all costs.
It's more for killing
BBJ teaches you to be very comfortable and at home on the ground ..
@@nepntzerZer try that on pavement with oponent with helmet :)
@@nepntzerZer Being on the ground is the worst place to be in a real life environment. Anyone can kick your head 💥
An expert wrestler is not going to give you the option. He'll put you where he wants you and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop him.
Krav maga is not a super power.
Talking to Joe about this would be like talking to a Bruce Lee fan.
What do you mean? I have practise Krav Maga for 2 years and I stopped. Now Ive been doing BJJ for 2 months and I feel that I have learn much more in these 2 months than all I learned in those 2 years of Krav Maga.
@@carlbjorling6058because you must have shit teacher. I have learned Krav Maga in special forces while being at army. We were as brutal as possible. Throat , balls and eyes attacks all they long.
@@carlbjorling6058then your instructor was shit
Joe is just being real here. Lack of competition has always been a weakness of Krav Maga. Whether you like to admit it or not, participating in competitions can really help u enhance your fighting abilities. The amount of repetitions u do in the gym, the strength and conditionings u do just to prepare for a ring fight all help u big time
Joe is confusing Krav Maga with someone taking a one day womens self defense course using keys.
"And the mixed Martial arts guy was a trained killer.. all around.."
This line right here gives the entire context you need to understand this.. Krav Maga is not to be taken lightly...
Mike said it best... Everyone has a plan until they get popped in the mouth.
Bro what..bro thought he really did something 💀
😂
Bro what ?
That didt make sense
Punched in the mouth, and mma guy would whoop a Krav Maga guy
I'm an Krav Maga BLACK BELT from "Jacob Bagels" Kosher IDF hand to hand training... I would DESTROY ANY UFC fighter... L'CHAIM !!!!
Krav Maga would never beat BJJ in a cage. Why? Cuz the cage has rules. Take the rules out of the equation, make it life or death, Krav Maga wins every time. Krav Maga isn't a fighting style. It's a self defense technique. Warriors know the difference.
A man sitting in a bar having a beer was kicked off his stool, he looked up from the floor to see a man that said, that was karate from Japan. He got up and was flipped back to the floor. That was judo also from Japan. He gets up once again and is strucj back to floor. Kung-fu, from China. The man crawls to the door and leaves. A few minutes later the attacking man was sitting at the bar bragging about what he'd just done when he's suddenly knocked unconscious. That was crowbar from Harbor Freight. Moral of the story. There's always someone that knows more so stay humble
*crow bar from harbor freight - also from china.
@@hadesjanitor9680 🤣
Every fight style: there’s certaian code and morals to our way of fighting
MMA: We don’t play by your rules
Boxing, Muay Thai, kickboxing, BJJ and even just wrestling will brutalise people on the street
You fell on your head. MMA has rules and codes, people get disqualified... It is a sport.
@@Derederi you completely missed the point, mma allows fight techniques that aren’t allowed (example:elbows aren’t allowed in boxing) in other fight sports
@@MikePerryLegit never said they wouldn’t
MMA is a massive load of bullshit that falls apart outside of the cage. Its popular among the beer drinking, shit kicking low income class of society. Dana White and Rogan are fucking geniuses the way that theyve promoted and advertised this absolute dogshit into being as heavily defended as it is. You idiots are as pathetic as the WWE guys that get up in arms when you tell them their dumb tv show is fake and they come bsck with "buh buh but its scripteddddd notttt fakeeeeee".
Joe Rogan is goddamned f*cking right. Against fighters ( Mma, Sanda, Sambo) there is no match for Krav magic.
In Joe’s mind nobody on earth has used a blade in a fight
Is for pussy's mate
Joe could hold you down and F your mouth
Wanna see my gun?
@snakezula9757 Wrong. My mma coach had some dipshit spouting the same nonsense you are and offered to fight the guy to the death right there and then and guy threatened to call the police. Krav Maga and every other LARP that claims to be too deadly for sport have only ever proven to be geh and fake
IDK I still feel like it's going to come down to blows. You can try to aim for the eyes but if it's really a life or death struggle you're probably already exhausted from the whole situation and you're adrenaline will be through the roof. Just like shooting teaches to aim for center mass, the safe bet is to just punch or strike in the face or body. Life or death situation isn't the time to get creative.
Krav Maga are only trained for self defense. They train to stop a threat as fast as possible. While an MMA fighter is trained to compete in a match with rules. Huge difference.
Most people don’t understand Krav Maga.
Why was it developed? To enable people with little training and no background to effectively defend themself from most people in hand to hand combat.
It isn’t about being the best fighting style or about being the most technical and dangerous one.
It mainly focuses on ending fights as fast as possible or giving you the opportunity to run (or use your weapon in the military context).
In these things Krav Maga is unbeatable. Half a year and you will have learnt lots of things - and it’s easy to expand your knowledge into different styles. One day of training every week is enough to effectively learn to defend yourself.
With other fighting styles it’s very different. They might be more dangerous or feature more stuff… But it takes way longer to actually be a threat and you need to train A LOT. It needs to be your passion.
Krav Maga is a survival art form. I would describe is as a modern day/survival Jeet Kune Do. What makes this debate silly is that Jui Jitsu is a component of Krav Maga. A person can get ambushed, fall to the ground, and have to fight their way out of it. Krav Maga prepares you for that. Like the Naval Seals, the goal is to get in do your damage and get out. It functions without rules. Jiu jitsu has rules. No one can predict the outcome of a street fight. Anyone comparing the two systems is ignorant of Krav Maga. It welcomes all styles but not all styles apply because this system employs lethal force. It will impair the attacker's ability to stand, breath, and see quite efficiently. In the end if a person slights Krav Maga, he is also sighting jiu-jitsu.
Jiu jitsu has rules in competition, the techniques themselves have no bounds in a street fight.
@@WaWestie people will bite scratch and claw in a street fight. All things that ji jitsu can't really do anything about
I can usually make a pretty good prediction
@@stephenmccann3407 Guess what? Biting and clawing fucking sucks in a street fight as well. That's what people on bath salts do.
Idk, I've personally stated...I'm going to be standing over this idiot in 30 secs...and yes.
Also me: that dudes going to knock me out...and yes
Personally I'm decent at prediction of fights 😅
Jujitsu guy getting ready in a street fight:
Lays in the ground on his back with his arms and legs up in the air shouting “come at me, I dare you”
Exactly how tbe early days of ufc looked, it was so damn boring they had to makea limit rule
That's in competition 😂😂 in a street fight. You'll either get put to sleep or have your bones broken or tendons damaged. 😁
@@ashshermanwhoa..You're that old? 😂
POV: You know nothing about Krav Maga but have a successful podcast that everyone likes making fun of.
IT WOULD BE SHOCKING IF A BJJ GUY GOT INTO A FIGHT WITH A NAVY SEAL AND PUT THE NAVY SEALS M1 INTO A GUN CHOKE AND WON.
Just had to remind the fact that 6 to 8 trained professionals in juijitsu did a test in which they tried to evade a stabbing and every single one failed to a normal person stabbing them with a pen
Keys ain’t gon do much which joe Rogan said. Against a knife there’s only one really viable option.
@@suna2515 gun?
@@rosalind1635 or run
@@noahvburk585 that's prolly best
I know someone who has actually in real fights (hes a blue belt btw) with two guys who had knives he was detaining them border security stuff and he was rolling with them to take control of them they pulled out knives and he managed to control it and not get stabbed but its all up to luck man honestly you may not get stabbed but you will get cut for sure
never go down in a street brawl. if youre winning and your head is able to be kicked by anyone, someone will
You must not fight in street much most street fights end up on the ground
What if the BJJ guy has friends with him as well?
@@DmitriBoryenkavich No they don't and if they do, the guy who is on the ground will get smothered. Why do people keep regurgitating this BS, that it ends up on the ground
@@rajkaranvirk7525 it does I've been in fights mma is best for fights
@@DmitriBoryenkavichI've been in fights as well - and when they go to the ground, it's because the other dude WANTS to go to the ground, and successfully manages to take it there. Otherwise... only ONE guy is going to the ground, and that's because he lost.
Lots of my Krav Maga training essentially came down to:
1. Kick the nuts/gouge eyes/trip if feasible.
2. Execute protocol GTFO.
I'm trained in Krav Maga. I'm training in MMA.
MMA is better than Krav Maga because MMA actually has battle tested techniques through sparring.
Krav Maga is just theoretical because they don't test it with sparring.
Krav maga is about fighting actual real life threats. Some guy comes at you with a knife/gun that sort of thing.
It also takes freely from any martial arts. We had guys who trained mma and juijutsi training krav maga with us.
In krav maga you learn about situational awarness, how to run away, how to use improvised tools etc.
If a jujitsu guy throws you to the ground and you cant win there, an appropriate krav maga "technique" could be to get a rock from the ground and smash his head. Ot literally anything else. There are bo matches in krav maga and no rules.
Krav maga is about offering easy to remember, duct-tape solutions for soldiers who don't have the time to be trained as hand to hand specialist. There are a billion other skills that soldiers need much more, and time spent turning them into elite hand ot hand fighters is time better spent on other things.
The meme that military fighting systems are somehow better is honestly, pretty stupid. And it's born out of this "military = badass" meme.
Krav maga is like duct tape. It offers some quick, hyper aggressive techniques and drills for soldiers to use in a pinch. In that context, krav maga is really effective.
It is not a substitute for, more dangerous than, or more effective than actual, dedicated hand to hand training with a rounded curriculum. And people who don't know anything about fighting need to stop pretending that it is.
KM is about protecting yourself from regular knackers, I've never met a BJJ or a MMA fighter going around threatening people. These are different situational techniques. KM won't stand against a BJJ or MMA but then again what's your usual threat on the street.. Slice the MF with anything you've got. KM is not training to compete..
@@evil001987 Krav has the same problem Aikido has.
They have all these techniques and situations they drill. But they've never actually done it.
Like, Krav guys aren't bashing dudes heads with rocks while being strangled or joint locked to the point of breakage.
I mean sure, the idea is there. "Okay, he takes me down, and I'll get the rock like I did in practice and oh shit where's the rock? Wait wha-" annnd strangled.
Just like Aikido guys have all these wrist breaks and arm snaps, and they flip you and smash your spine and tear out your soul and the whole nine yards.
And they've never done any of it.
That's why a wrestler is dangerous. Cuz he's taken guys down a million times.
I don't know how many times I've been told "If you tried to choke me, or got me in a choke hold, I'd rip your eye out."
OKay, how many eyes have you ripped out? While being choked at that?
Zero?
Then how the fuck do you know you can even pull that off? Before you go out?
What if a guy takes you down in a mall, and you reach for the rock...and there are no rocks and oh fuck he just broke your arm?
Say whatever you want about the Big 4 grappling arts, but they know what they can do, because they've done it.
@MaxxCoyote I got jumped by three guys last November. I ran because I was outnumbered, which is something you train to keep as an option in krav. After 20 meters, I grabbed a rock, turned around, and smashed it into the guy closest to me. By that point, the other two were farther away.
I went down, but not unconscious. His buddies stopped to help him. I got away unhurt.
Fancy fighting? Not at all. But all of it was stuff trained for in krav.
Krav Maga guy bites the MMA guys face off
Yes because a bite is a secret technique only learned in Krav nonsense
You think MMA fighters can't bite as well ?
My bjj coach always makes sure to point out, “he can bite your thigh here”. Trust me, a purple belt or higher in bjj, NOTHING on gods green earth will save you.
Or.. combine them both together 🤯 Krav Maga is more of a philosophy than a martial art discipline. But I would say someone that does both has an advantage over just one or the other. Train both together, ideally alongside Muay Thai & Kali and you’ll be a fairly well-rounded fighter.
Problem with UFC style MMA/BBJ++ is outside the ring, the only rule is survival.
Sparring and grappling are so important to honing that combat instinct…your reactions become automatic and you subconsciously begin to recognize patterns in human body language that initiate attacks
I'd be more afraid of a guy who practices half the time versus a pro. Atleast the pro would know how to hold back and dismantle the average guy quick. The who practices half might just unleash a full on kick to your ribs with a side of bbq sauce.
@@DefeatLust absolutely not, Rousimar Palhares is a prime example why the pro is so much more dangerous. Joe said a trained killer and palhares isn't even a killer like that, but he still has crippled so many mma fighters just with submissions because he didn't care and just wanted to hurt people. If you're in a life or death with a pro who actually thinks they're in real danger you will not leave the situation.
Люди давно изобрели ножи и другое оружие.
Krav Maga is not a self defence martial art. It is made for breaking bones to prevent further attacks and then to kill them, they do not play nice
@comment2122 if I'm in a life or death fight with anyone neither of us is going home after. one of us is leaving In a body bag and the other is leaving in cuffs
"someone MUCH BETTER than you"
Well said captain obvious.😎
Yeah, I'd bet $10,000 that the world's greatest Krav Maga master could fuck up the world's worst Mixed Martial artist.
@@datnoob4394krav grand masters are people you genuinely do not want to engage in any negative way
@@datnoob4394you watch too many movies
Krav maga is MMA too without rules and krav encourages it and it's taught until it's ingrained into ur muscle memory , instinct.
Typical BJJ mentality. The issue with BJJ in a street attack, is that 1, you’ve never been punched in the face, and 2, you’ll take it straight to the ground, where his buddies will then proceed to kick your head in or stab you in the back
That is the reality of the streets , I can confidently say a street fight that starts with two people never ends with two people , always more people jumping in from both sides ….
Maybe for people who've only done modern sport. People who train old-style Gracie/Vale Tudo BJJ get punched all the time.
The non-bjj guy's friend coming to kick your head like a soccer ball from behind:
Yea and then my friend is gonna ventilate him with a glock, the scenario is stupid all around
@@racenugent2193 Why would you be attempting to roll with a guy in self defense if you have a friend that’s armed? There’s always a dumb guy like you around trying to defend Ju Jitsu lol. It’s outdated. Wrestling is proving to be far superior
@@bshmn5816 Another idiot lol
@@bshmn5816 Delusion 💯
@bshmn5816 if your still breathing after 1 soccer kick then they didn't do it right
Although most of our special forces in the west use krav maga.🤦🏼
Krav Maga is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu without rules. In my humble opinion.
Watched a bjj guy get a guy in an arm bar. Then get stabbed 16 times in the thigh in a couple seconds.
yeah grappling works out great until the guy on the receiving end pulls the knife he had in his pockets
if I wanted to learn anything close I'd learn judo, throw 'em to the floor but not bring myself down with em
@@JustAJauneArcand also have spikes in your boot so you can stomp their hands you never know if they are reaching their pocket for a gun or not
@dontsaybullshitlads🧢
@@JustAJauneArcI just throw people then fucking elbow and punch you a good 10 times then leave
@@JustAJauneArc Or learn .380or9mm! Both of those disciplines will work against Krav Maga and BJJ!!
I met a Special Forces Operator at a gun range a few years back. I was prior service army, so we talked a little bit about different fighting styles.
Basically, at the end of that, he said he would never used jujitsu. Every bad Guy has a buddy or two.
Yeah people criticise a lot of martial arts that dont have any ground work, but in a confrontation like that the LAST place you wanna be is on your back. Really the only ground work you shoild work on is how to get up from the ground as quickly as possible.
I’d prefer to know judo at a fairly high level over bjj personally, if my goal was to be more well versed at self defense. Being able to throw someone off balance or slam them to the ground while maintaining a standing position would be infinitely better than going to the ground.
@@stealthyturtles judo can be extremely helpful combined with wrestling. As u said the ability to toss someone onto the concrete and maintain a standing or dominant position is key to your safety. Unless u end up getting tagged quickly nd dnt have much of a chin the fight will somehow end up in a clinch once the striking distance gets closed. Learning tosses and trips, Pulling and tugging on a gi in Judo will definitely be useful.
@@desmondkelly5178what if someone DOES take you to the ground tho? And you can’t just get up? You have to know it
"Krav Maga is useless because if someone who is way better at fighting knocks you down and beats your ass you can't use it." Joe sounds so damn dumb sometimes. Like you can't use jiu jitsu on a guy if they snap your elbows and send the bottom of your sternum into your lungs, that doesn't make it useless.
Well, Krav Maga wasn't designed for sustained fighting. It was originally designed for the Israeli military to get out of a situation enough to deploy more lethal weapons on the battlefield. When I was still in the USAF Security Forces, we didn't have any combative programs at that time. So, I turned in Krav Maga to help me do just that. I'm not saying anything bad about mixed martial arts. It's still effective. But, most people who train in it are taught to follow rules. In a life or death situation, there are no rules. Krav Maga is just another tool in the toolbox to aid you into going home safe to your loved ones.
The whole premise: “if someone is better than you” If any fighter is better than you, you will lose 🤷🏻♀️
Tell me you don't fight without telling me you dont fight, you can be the better fighter and still lose, I'd just delete the comment if I was you😂 you really thought you were saying something good lmao
@@ItsAme7143 maybe not will lose, but the odds are against u that's his point. I've won again many people far more skilled then me it's more how well u connect rather then how much time u spend in a gym😂
@@loud4life920 I feel like winning a fight has to do with being more effective and having the better skills is definitely an advantage but styles make fights, this guy J is acting like it's black and white and if you're better then you win and that's just goofy😂👌
@@ItsAme7143 I think the idea is that it doesn't depend about the style as much as about the skills/level you have. Take someone doing Krav Maga or Systema for some time and put him against "someone really good at BJJ", of course he will lose. But what about someone doing amateur BJJ against a Russian Spetsnaz who trained systems to a high level?
"Jamie, pull that video of Krav Maga guy fighting a bear" - probably joe
There's a difference between fighting with honor in a match with rules and fighting to kill breaking fingers, poking eyes, hitting testicles and throat.
Most people don't know krav maga actually utilizes jiu jitsu which can make krav maga more powerful than it already is
Andrew Tate - BBJ is useless if the guy has a knife 💀🤣
Brazilian Blue Jitsu
@@sharkyrex_6192 barbaric Beatle juice
Bare blow job
He’s kinda right
He’s not wrong
That's not really the relevant scenario though.
Krav guy vs untrained but armed multiple opponents, and BJJ guy vs those same opponents is the question that counts.
Hand to hand isn't the best in krav maga but krav maga also has weapon fighting, disarming, and defense aimed towards military fighting.
Technically an MMA fighter shouldn’t get that close to someone trained to kill to put him in an arm lock
Ninpo is still above all for dirty fighting and killings.
@@rtxmax8223 mostly just effective at running away and assassination. They werent big on combat and nost shinobi were just spies or couriers delivering intel. They were know match for samurai even in 1v1
@@bitchface235 the thing is, Most shinobi WERE Samurai.
@@IAteYourSandwich actually this is false. We don't know how many Shinobi were samurai. But Shinobi were pulled from both ASHIGARU AND SAMURAI. Which were two different classes
@@bitchface235 I was referring to your comment of most shinobi standing no chance vs a samurai. Considering samurai is a social class and not a job, that is entirely dependent on if the shinobi is also a samurai, and what job said samurai has.
Ashigaru were basically conscripted footsoldiers and were forbidden from having another job. So IDK if they could be shinobi. There very likely were shinobi posing as ashigaru, as they would have needed ears everywhere. However, if you want to be technical 🤓 ashigaru were also known as “samurai of the land” so even if they did become shinobi, they would also be samurai. 🤓
But eh, I know more about medieval europe.
Joe's delusion on bjj's actual effectiveness on the street knows no bounds.
Says the guy who hasn't trained shit. there are multiple videos of guys holding people down and choking them out. My coach has kept a guy down while beating him in
He’s comparing an mma skillset vs a Krav Maga skillset. He never said bjj was completely the best thing to do in the streets.
@Ruslan Shavkatov multiple videos of bjj guys getting stomped into a coma or shot dead because their egos are too big
Maybe it’s effective. But it’s about 2x worse than mma lol.
@@ruslanshavkatov466thats cuz they were alone and he was lucky. He cound have got his head stomped by 3 other dudes despite how good he is
It doesn't matter the martial art/practice. A good instructor makes the difference for winning. You can have the natural teeth and instincts, but your training makes a HUGE difference.
Unless it's karate, lol.
Everybody shits bricks when the guite guy whips out the grenade laucher.
I did parkour before I ever got into martial arts, now I like to say “if I can’t beat you up I can sure as hell run away from you” 🏃♂️💨
Thats the best form of self defense, any other martial art is for when u cant get away
All of that goes out of the window when you fight John Wick
😂
Actually John wick know sambo the same martial art khabib use
@@aromalja9861 Nope. It's BJJ, mixed with standing judo and JJJ. Really, he should be using systema, based on the lore of the character, but hey
@@thelastmotel No he use sambo
I'm not sure how he came to that conclusion. There is a lot of Jiu-Jitsu in Krav Maga.