I don't think this 10th gen i7 is capable of 37 transcodes like you've shown in this video. The UHD 630 which is the iGPU in the 10th gen cpus which i'm assuming is in that CPU is only capable of about 12-14 h265 to h264 1080p transcodes. I believe you have a ton of buffered videos that aren't transcoding and some that are transcoding... i think if you ran them all at the same time you would only get 12 transcodes before clients started freezing, which is probably why the simplyNUC people list it as being capable of around 12 h265 hardware transcodes.
While I completely agree, >1Gb Ethernet should be standard on something like this, the box does have Thunderbolt 3. There are a few choices of 2.5, 5, and 10Gbe Thunderbolt 3 adapters, from ~$50 to ~$150.
I agree the 1Gb should be standard. almost no one runs 10Gbe in their home. there really is no need for 10Gbe in the home. But its super fun to play around with!
Any chance to ask for a 11gen NUC sample to review? i would love to see how much you can get on PLEX from i7 1185G7 (NUC11TNHv7) with the new Intel Iris Xe Graphics 940 graphics, im not going to speculate... but my guess is 50+ streams????
Ok Jason @byte my bits, If I have a server right now with 64TB of storage, and I wanted to go this route, what would be the best way to transition to something like this and keep a big storage array available? Space is a premium within my home and this is appealing.
All you need is a 8th gen (Even a Celeron) can get you over 20 transcodes, so long as it has Intel Quicksync. I have an HP 290 that I bought for $90 that is my dedicated Plex Server. I recommend finding a cheap prebuilt on Ebay or local and you dont have to buy any of these stupid over priced nucs
Nice. But after you went on about that 'shaker hood' from the '70's, not one word about the four tuner card grafted onto the top of that NUC. Sorta Franken-nuc-stein. Maybe it'll make the next vid?
Your excitement left me skeptical at first.......... but.. Holy Crap! That's pretty dang nice! Excitement justified! Wait....... Here it comes ouch! It is pricey!
if i did not already have some old pc parts laying around that im planning to rebuild into a server i might have gone with that one, also not a huge fan of the non upgradeable storage
The storage is upgradable to point, it will fit any size ssd or m.2, 1 of each but you can swap them out as larger sizes become available… so yes and no…
It’s cool as a PC but if you have a massive library you’re going to end up with a bunch of external drives. For that price you’re better off getting one of those beastly NASs out there. You can get an incredible NAS for $1200 from Asustor.
I will stick with my R610 with 96gigs of ram dual Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz connected to my NAS with my media stored on 96TB. I can transcode the same amounts without any issues. Running windows 10.
I don't know the point of having more than 3-4 simultaneous stream when most of families won't watch more than 2-3 stream at the same time. Focus on storage when needed and save money.
I have a intel nuc with Core i5-8259U and Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655 the cpu is 4 core 8 thread and sits at 3.6ghz. I can't imagine using it as a plex server long term as it would probably live a short life running 24-7. My server with 64gb eec and Xeon E5-2690 v3 running truenas and a plex jail does me fine.
I think you might be a bit off, my I3 8100 with HW enabled can do over 22 Streams in Linux. can someone please inform me as to the better benefits to using Linux over windows for this? I would so prefer using windows over Linux any day of the week.
I currently use an old 2011 dell laptop with a 5tb external for plex. I can only transcode 1 lmao. Sometimes 2 with 1 direct playing. If I get the plex pass and do hardware transcoding will this increase? I'd be happy if I could transcode even 2 honestly.. I'm also going to upgrade my hardware in the future..
Well.. way to pricey, but you did give me the idea to buy a normal nuc to run my plex server + google drive + linux on when my current 'server' with a p2000 craps out. Way cheaper and I don't need that tv decoder anyway. Did not know that intel hardware decoding support is this far now. Thanks!
@bytemybits windows vs unraid? If you want more storage, getting a NAS an option? But wouldn't having a server like Zeus or Loki be better where there is room to grow and the PMS on same device as it's stored content w/out going outside to another storage device?
Shhhh! Don't tell them all our secrets! HP 290's prices just came back down to sane levels, and you're telling everyone?! Seriously though, I couldn't find one so I rolled my own 2U rack-mounted G4900 based system for around $250.
Does it not have "Intel® Ethernet Connection I219-V" network card? it should support 2.5gbe then if the switch support it, not all switches support 2.5 or 5. ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/2469/gigabit-ethernet-controllers-up-to-2-5gbe.html
I know its not the same, but to give idea on the i3 performance, my new plex server uses i3 10100k w/16gb ram and it can do 32 x 1080p streams with hardware transcoding on the iGPU in unRaid docker. I have mine underclocked and undervolted by 0.125mv and still does 32 streams while only using 22-23 watts at idle.
Hi, I'm looking to get the 11th series i3 NUC for plex server. My worry is it can't transcode subtitles and the occasional 4K ..."medium".. bitrate (cough unverified source cough). The (NUC11TNKi3) to plex android on sony 4k tv. Wondering if your 10th gen can?
No, it's not, because already read data has been cached in the RAM. And I'm not sure, but I think an already transcoded movie part (Plex transcodes in parts) is not transcoded again.
Aite, gonna have to do this: I need help; I have $400 to build a Server for up to 3 transcodes, not planning on transcoding but just in case, can someone help out with a list? Case, MB, CPU and RAM, maybe GPU if you don't think the internal CPU + GPU graphics would do for up to 3 transcodes at a time.(no, I don't need hdd, have a few already)
Why the fixation on transcoding? I get it for streaming outside your network (let's talk about bandwidth restrictions first) but local network playback should not require transcoding. Direct Play should be used. I just fired up five 4K HDR videos using the official Plex player across 5 different devices (2 on Wi-Fi - 802.11ac). Every device is using Direct Play and my Plex server is averaging roughly 12% usage across all 8 cores. I then switched just one device to get transcoded down to 1080p @ 20 Mbps and server CPU usage jumped to roughly 90%. Transcoding is an ugly word as far as local playback is concerned. You don't even need a Plex server to play these large media files. All you need a network share of your content and VLC/Infuse on your client device. BTW, do yourself a favour and buy a M1 equipped MacBook Air to edit 4K video on the road. :P
Pricing?,money.Listen up the last thing anyone asks to see when they are in hospital dying is the balance in thier bankbook.If you can get it,do it lifes to short.Its an amazing product besides what isnt pricey nowadays lol. Back to it.To me this was worth every cent.Brilliant toy to have! ;-)
Hey! Could you do a video on Intel's Iris Xe grahpics? (They support Intel Quick Sync) They suppose to be much faster than UHD 700 series gharpics for encoding. I found a video demonstration of it being used in Handbrake to transcode 8K and 1080p high bitrate videos very quickly. watch?v=2zWHsjzK97c&ab_channel=DavidHarry PC World made an article on it titled: Intel’s Iris Xe Max GPU brings graphics chops to thin-and-light laptops (can't paste links) In there you can see that Intel compared the Iris Xe Max gharpics to an RTX 2080 in encoding and Intel was faster... (not in gaming though, for that its similar to a GeForce MX350) (search for "i9-10980K" to jump to that part in the article) These CPUs are in some intel NUCs, they are something like: "Intel Core i5-1155G7", "Intel Core i7-1195G7" I'm considering buying one of these NUCs for my server but I haven't found a comprehensive guide/video about them for use cases like Plex/Docker
10TB Storage = 160 4K 55Mps HDR Movies. For 2350 Dollar inkl 10TB you can by a QNAP TVS-872XT-i5-16GB inlkl. Seagate Ironwolf 14TB (inkl 7 free bays, 2 PCI, 4 USB 3,2 Gen 2 and HDMI and 10Gbit LAN and 2 Thunderbult....So this small box is absolutly overprice
I’m pairing a nuc, 11th gen i7-1165G7, 64 GB DDR4 3200 with my 500TB synology server. Want to test it compared to my original Plex server of 8th gen i5, 16gb DDR4 and p2000. Hoping to reduce noise, power draw and space….
I’ll save you some time: $1000 for the cheap one!
Thanks for saving me 20 minutes
Garbage
Nice product - crazy pricing.
Way overpriced
Yeah they are charging $300 to install the extra 8tb SSD. Some overhead is expected but $300 for an extra 2 minutes is absurd.
The price is ridiculous
Intel nuc have always been overpriced. With all things computer related the smaller it is the more expensive it is.
Just get an older model NUC for a 3rd the price
Holy moly, now I know why you didn't mention price!
"massive quantities of storage"..... checks the 50+TB array in my Unraid server.... We have wildly different definitions of "massive".....
And Jason has a 300TB server. Not sure how 10 is massive.
...i guess I should have added “for its size and ssd storage”
@@Bytemybits absolutely, it is very impressive for its size
Yes it is. Just a bit a good humored trolling here.
It’s impressive for SSD, a home user with a 50-300Tb SSD would be quite impressive given the cost of large SSD drives.
Wipe it and load Ubuntu 20.04 . I bet you can get even more transcoding streams.
I don't think this 10th gen i7 is capable of 37 transcodes like you've shown in this video. The UHD 630 which is the iGPU in the 10th gen cpus which i'm assuming is in that CPU is only capable of about 12-14 h265 to h264 1080p transcodes. I believe you have a ton of buffered videos that aren't transcoding and some that are transcoding... i think if you ran them all at the same time you would only get 12 transcodes before clients started freezing, which is probably why the simplyNUC people list it as being capable of around 12 h265 hardware transcodes.
You do realize that your configuration is $2600?
Yeah, without mentioning the price this felt a lot more like a product placement than a review
Soon as he said intel nuc, I knew it was going to be more then I'd ever spend.
I didn't spend that much or even half for my 22TB unraid build.
@@FerrumBellator I'm really looking forward to them hitting ebay in 10 years.
@@JHACbiz I'd go more like 5, 10 is just too long with how fast tech is moving now. Amd started the arms race again.
Nice ad. Crazy pricing, why wouldn't someone just build their own nuc?
While I completely agree, >1Gb Ethernet should be standard on something like this, the box does have Thunderbolt 3. There are a few choices of 2.5, 5, and 10Gbe Thunderbolt 3 adapters, from ~$50 to ~$150.
I agree the 1Gb should be standard. almost no one runs 10Gbe in their home. there really is no need for 10Gbe in the home. But its super fun to play around with!
Any chance to ask for a 11gen NUC sample to review? i would love to see how much you can get on PLEX from i7 1185G7 (NUC11TNHv7) with the new Intel Iris Xe Graphics 940 graphics, im not going to speculate... but my guess is 50+ streams????
Ok Jason @byte my bits,
If I have a server right now with 64TB of storage, and I wanted to go this route, what would be the best way to transition to something like this and keep a big storage array available?
Space is a premium within my home and this is appealing.
Thats what I wanna know too.
maybe map a network drive and use nuc as server ?
not the most efficient way power wise.
It seems like I saw a Ryzen variety of these NUCs, does anyone have experience with those?
Awesome Video keep up the great work. I can't wait for the Plex Client Shootout video - Cheers
I Bought the extreme version with the 8 tb of extra storage and well its a dream to use.Totally brilliant.
For those prices. Rather get a base model Mac mini m1
was starting to question my M1 purchase until i saw the prices. woof.
Is the MMM1 any good for transcoding though with that non Intel processor?
@@gibboireland This is a legit question that needs a real answer. maybe the latest intel MM would do good?
All you need is a 8th gen (Even a Celeron) can get you over 20 transcodes, so long as it has Intel Quicksync. I have an HP 290 that I bought for $90 that is my dedicated Plex Server. I recommend finding a cheap prebuilt on Ebay or local and you dont have to buy any of these stupid over priced nucs
If possible can you test it with an external GPU. Thanks in advance
Let us know if you experience playback issues with the new Chromecast... I've been experiencing lots of hang ups while direct playing.
If you got the money it's a very nice to have Plex server to hide somewhere, as for me i just use my gaming pc as a Plex server as well.
I have absolutely no use for this so why do I want it now?
Nice. But after you went on about that 'shaker hood' from the '70's, not one word about the four tuner card grafted onto the top of that NUC. Sorta Franken-nuc-stein. Maybe it'll make the next vid?
How well does it run Linux?
Your excitement left me skeptical at first.......... but.. Holy Crap! That's pretty dang nice! Excitement justified! Wait....... Here it comes ouch! It is pricey!
if i did not already have some old pc parts laying around that im planning to rebuild into a server i might have gone with that one, also not a huge fan of the non upgradeable storage
The storage is upgradable to point, it will fit any size ssd or m.2, 1 of each but you can swap them out as larger sizes become available… so yes and no…
@@scotsparaman yeah but the price, the reason i am going with a custom build is cause i have most of the parts so i would not have to spend that much
Unfortunately I can't afford one of these monsters to enable my family to watch movies at the same time 😋 I need something cheaper... Much cheaper 😁
Video idea, how do I transcode now that they killed unraid nvidia? I can't use my quadro card !!!
So, how meny streams with subtitles enabled? Subtitles is pretty heavy for my server.
It’s cool as a PC but if you have a massive library you’re going to end up with a bunch of external drives. For that price you’re better off getting one of those beastly NASs out there. You can get an incredible NAS for $1200 from Asustor.
What are you using for storage for something like this if you have a large library? A external hdd bay?
I will stick with my R610 with 96gigs of ram dual Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz connected to my NAS with my media stored on 96TB. I can transcode the same amounts without any issues. Running windows 10.
I don't know the point of having more than 3-4 simultaneous stream when most of families won't watch more than 2-3 stream at the same time. Focus on storage when needed and save money.
I frequently have 6 streams running at once. Some people have servers they share with others than just family, you know.
you share with your friends and family out of the house...
Which cpu is better for plex? Intel 13900k or AMD 7950X?
Hi Hooker! Do you have any rack mount PCs to recommend, the Dells are too damn expensive and my hand wont last trying to earn the money! Thanks
I have a intel nuc with Core i5-8259U and Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655 the cpu is 4 core 8 thread and sits at 3.6ghz. I can't imagine using it as a plex server long term as it would probably live a short life running 24-7. My server with 64gb eec and Xeon E5-2690 v3 running truenas and a plex jail does me fine.
You know it has a Thunderbold 3 Port? So 10G network over this, no Problem ^^
I think you might be a bit off, my I3 8100 with HW enabled can do over 22 Streams in Linux. can someone please inform me as to the better benefits to using Linux over windows for this?
I would so prefer using windows over Linux any day of the week.
I currently use an old 2011 dell laptop with a 5tb external for plex. I can only transcode 1 lmao. Sometimes 2 with 1 direct playing. If I get the plex pass and do hardware transcoding will this increase? I'd be happy if I could transcode even 2 honestly..
I'm also going to upgrade my hardware in the future..
Well.. way to pricey, but you did give me the idea to buy a normal nuc to run my plex server + google drive + linux on when my current 'server' with a p2000 craps out. Way cheaper and I don't need that tv decoder anyway.
Did not know that intel hardware decoding support is this far now. Thanks!
At that price, I'd wait for Nuc 11.
@bytemybits windows vs unraid? If you want more storage, getting a NAS an option? But wouldn't having a server like Zeus or Loki be better where there is room to grow and the PMS on same device as it's stored content w/out going outside to another storage device?
The SimplyNUC website for these 3 models is broken, the "Tech Specs" and "Features" buttons don't work on any of them.
Nah... I'll take a HP 290 with a G4900. 21 1080p Transcodes and for only $129 when you can find it.
Shhhh! Don't tell them all our secrets! HP 290's prices just came back down to sane levels, and you're telling everyone?!
Seriously though, I couldn't find one so I rolled my own 2U rack-mounted G4900 based system for around $250.
Bra delete this, the 290 is a secret
I got a hp 290-p0043w for $90 plus nvme and extra ram running manjaro...I quit at 26 simultaneous transcodes.
Does it not have "Intel® Ethernet Connection I219-V" network card? it should support 2.5gbe then if the switch support it, not all switches support 2.5 or 5.
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/2469/gigabit-ethernet-controllers-up-to-2-5gbe.html
if you already have a nuc with an 8109u and 32gb ram with nvme... can I just do the same?
I know its not the same, but to give idea on the i3 performance, my new plex server uses i3 10100k w/16gb ram and it can do 32 x 1080p streams with hardware transcoding on the iGPU in unRaid docker. I have mine underclocked and undervolted by 0.125mv and still does 32 streams while only using 22-23 watts at idle.
Hi, I'm looking to get the 11th series i3 NUC for plex server. My worry is it can't transcode subtitles and the occasional 4K ..."medium".. bitrate (cough unverified source cough). The (NUC11TNKi3) to plex android on sony 4k tv.
Wondering if your 10th gen can?
unraid 6.9 RC1 is out. should test secondary drive pool and create an all SSD Pool attached to plex using unraidnVidia and a dedicated quadro card...
Can you please do a test with a nuc 12 extreme and a quadro p2000?
But can it run Crysis?
Hey, unfortunately, I can't get this item anymore. Is there any other way to get one? Or something similar
can you add an external hard drive to add more storage?
What is the best Plex client these days for TV playback?
Tb3?
what is the best OS for plex server to put on the nuc?
Maybe this is a dumb question but if your 37 streams are the same movie is it equivalent to transcoding 37 different movies?
No, it's not, because already read data has been cached in the RAM. And I'm not sure, but I think an already transcoded movie part (Plex transcodes in parts) is not transcoded again.
The way Plex handles it, yes it is. But if you notices, i tested both diff movies and same movie
Most people don’t have $2500 to spend on a Plex setup.
Great job bmb
The extreme might be great as a combo Plex / BlueIris server
OMG I saw the price. I almost threw up. But damn, long story short....can you say this little NUC is better and than your ZUES server?
That's pretty impressive. If only it had esata ports that would be great for me. But pair it with a nas and you're golden.
how many 4k, 10bit hdr+, 60fps, truehd + atmos Transcoding streams?
1 if lucky and constantly buffering I bet.
I'm look forward to a plex client battle.. Be good to see the best
amazing content, please help me out which program you use to test how many simultaneous streams plex server can handle
How about talking about the tuner?
nuc vs asustor? which is better?
My server: 😢
Me: wow 😍
You can buy the nuc8i3beh, an SSD, 16 gigs of ram, and a cheap network tuner for ~500 bucks. Save yourself 500 bucks and just do that.
hey you can get a Thunderbolt 2.5Gb NIC
Thanks for such great videos
This vs the M1 Mac?
if you throw $1000.+ at a rig i hope it can run plex, i well stick with my $500. super micro 4u thanks.
What happens now with the Windows 11 requirement for TPM 2.0? These computers can function way longer than the end of support of windows 10 in 2025.
You forgot to test the built in tuner
It is because it doesn't exist
You don't exist.
How you not gonna explain what to do with the coax out?
its a coax IN , for live tv and dvr functions :)
Aite, gonna have to do this: I need help; I have $400 to build a Server for up to 3 transcodes, not planning on transcoding but just in case, can someone help out with a list? Case, MB, CPU and RAM, maybe GPU if you don't think the internal CPU + GPU graphics would do for up to 3 transcodes at a time.(no, I don't need hdd, have a few already)
Why the fixation on transcoding? I get it for streaming outside your network (let's talk about bandwidth restrictions first) but local network playback should not require transcoding. Direct Play should be used.
I just fired up five 4K HDR videos using the official Plex player across 5 different devices (2 on Wi-Fi - 802.11ac). Every device is using Direct Play and my Plex server is averaging roughly 12% usage across all 8 cores. I then switched just one device to get transcoded down to 1080p @ 20 Mbps and server CPU usage jumped to roughly 90%. Transcoding is an ugly word as far as local playback is concerned.
You don't even need a Plex server to play these large media files. All you need a network share of your content and VLC/Infuse on your client device.
BTW, do yourself a favour and buy a M1 equipped MacBook Air to edit 4K video on the road. :P
Pricing?,money.Listen up the last thing anyone asks to see when they are in hospital dying is the balance in thier bankbook.If you can get it,do it lifes to short.Its an amazing product besides what isnt pricey nowadays lol. Back to it.To me this was worth every cent.Brilliant toy to have! ;-)
Hey!
Could you do a video on Intel's Iris Xe grahpics? (They support Intel Quick Sync)
They suppose to be much faster than UHD 700 series gharpics for encoding.
I found a video demonstration of it being used in Handbrake to transcode 8K and 1080p high bitrate videos very quickly.
watch?v=2zWHsjzK97c&ab_channel=DavidHarry
PC World made an article on it titled: Intel’s Iris Xe Max GPU brings graphics chops to thin-and-light laptops
(can't paste links)
In there you can see that Intel compared the Iris Xe Max gharpics to an RTX 2080 in encoding and Intel was faster... (not in gaming though, for that its similar to a GeForce MX350)
(search for "i9-10980K" to jump to that part in the article)
These CPUs are in some intel NUCs, they are something like: "Intel Core i5-1155G7", "Intel Core i7-1195G7"
I'm considering buying one of these NUCs for my server but I haven't found a comprehensive guide/video about them for use cases like Plex/Docker
How do I connect Nuc to my 1618+ Synology machine?
You would connect them via your ethernet network, as I presume you access your Synology NAS now.
I’m reconsidering buying a rack now
for 2600 you better of having multi subscription like hulu , netflix , disney etc should cover most of the movies for multiple years
Not trying to be a dick but I’m just wondering who would be down to split the cost of a server for Plex ?
I like the way you think...
@@buzzgold3413 still looking for someone tbh but have a small server going atm well not small i’m like 600tb in
I've been running my Plex on a nuc for years. I mean it's a different product but it's still a nuc it's nothing that hasn't already been done.
Do these run on Windows, or something else?
@@TheRubernck21 you can run what you like on nucs
@@foxtrot1787 Thx, just wasnt sure if any OS comes with this when you first purchase it.
@@TheRubernck21 can be purchased a bare bones or fully built with os
SO THAT 8TB HARD DRIVE DOESNT COME WITH IT,ITS AN ADD ON...U MADE IT SEEMS AS IF IT CAME WITH.....ITS $1,200 ADDON
Install Linux on it and see if you get the same results. I like it but I am skeptical and not a windows fan.
Now why on earth would I spent $1000-2600 on this box, rather than a Mac Mini?
Or a $300 Synology?
1Gb and HDMI 2.0.
or just get a normal nuc and ram from microcenter and build a nas for way less.
Love NUC..................Waiting for NUC 11 Panther
Theres nothing exciting about a thousand dollar plex media server with basically 0 storage built in.
Nice, but way too expensive! Could easily build yourself far cheaper as a server is not normally moved about! Nice product thought.
One word: "Quicksync"
10TB Storage = 160 4K 55Mps HDR Movies. For 2350 Dollar inkl 10TB you can by a QNAP TVS-872XT-i5-16GB inlkl. Seagate Ironwolf 14TB (inkl 7 free bays, 2 PCI, 4 USB 3,2 Gen 2 and HDMI and 10Gbit LAN and 2 Thunderbult....So this small box is absolutly overprice
Love the vids but the 2160 x 60fps makes me nauseous
m1 the way to go, 2021 all the way.
Pair that bad boy up with a NAS and look out! LOL. What is the price of that toy?
I’m pairing a nuc, 11th gen i7-1165G7, 64 GB DDR4 3200 with my 500TB synology server. Want to test it compared to my original Plex server of 8th gen i5, 16gb DDR4 and p2000. Hoping to reduce noise, power draw and space….
Its time for Ubiquiti UniFi 6 Long-Range Access Point
(can b preorder).
how do you get many player at the same time ,
you open multiple plex app ? like you would open multiple browser tab ?
@@daytekone wher is the button hiden, or you need a plex pass for that ,
I cant see this on on the web site.
Welp my Nvidia shield and 4 tb hardrive is good enough for me those high prices for this device is a no go for me but if your a baller go for it
19 mins?
Small but impressive, Thats what she said...