I could never analyse music nor do I have a vast knowledge of classical music, but I just wanted to say that two years ago I painted some rooms in my apartment and I listened to the Shepherds song for hours on end while doing that. For me it is just beautiful. So, imagine my joy at you analyzing this symphony.
This is one of my favorite symphonies. It is on my programming playlist! The fifth movement is my favorite. At 21:24 I love how, after the opening horn call, the theme is in two parts, the first part of the phrase seems to ask a question that gets answered in the second part of the phrase. So simple but so divine.
Same here, Beethoven's 6th, Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings, and Bach's Goldberg Variations (arranged for string trio) are my 3 favorite pieces to listen to while programming or studying
A Masterpiece, my second favourite musical piece after only Beethoven's 9th symphony; it's like every note is in its right place, it's incredible to think that it was composed the same year as the 5th althought being completely different, the same year while Beethoven was thinking of committing suicide for his increasing deafness but the 6th it's anyway so sweet
A bit of historical background: at the time Beethoven wrote the 6th symphony, taking walks in the countryside for pleasure was a new and decidedly bourgeoise past time. The aristocracy either stayed in their parks or went hunting. Beethoven writing a symphony that basically glorified hiking was in a way a veiled political statement in support of the emerging middle class.
I almost never watch ads, but this time it was an ad with Hans Zimmer in it telling me to compose music. Very appropriate… I love your content btw, keep on doing what you do. - Some Belgian guy
I would suggest everyone who is familiar with the work to listen to Glenn Gould playing Liszt's piano transcription of this symphony. It really gives a new perspective on the work and is one of my favourites recordings.
I love these in-depth guides so much! Beethoven being my favourite although I think it's his 9th Symphony that I love the most, it's one of few symphonies where I can honestly say that I love each movement equally :)
The end of the fourth movement with its low basses and the whole fifth are awesome, one of the greatest moments of instrumental music of all time and the only one in the world that comes close to the ninth symphony - while being completely different. I'm getting goosebumps and wet eyes just by having it played in my mind. The splendor and the grandeur just keep on growing. It's gorgeous, making me feel great just by imagining it!
I'll be attending a recreation of the 1808 concert in January. Let's hope they don't turn off the heating in the Konzerthaus for greater historical authenticity 😬
@@InsidetheScore At the Konzerthaus in Vienna. (Vienna Symphony / Philippe Jordan) Would've been even better had they chosen the Theater an der Wien - the actual location.😉 I wonder how long it will last - it starts already at 6pm with 2 breaks, which makes sense considering the program is more than twice the size of an ordinary concert.
@@InsidetheScore Thanks! 🙂 The Vienna Symphony Orchestra is more or less the No. 2 symphony orchestra in Vienna behind the Vienna Philharmonic. Philippe Jordan - their Swiss chief conductor - is a good Beethoven conductor and designated as the next music director of the Vienna State Opera (so there's a good chance you'll hear more about him in the future). I don't know too much about the pianist, Nicholas Angelich, but he's American so you might know him. 😉
Eyy, I try to get a ticket too. I've visited some historical beethoven concert- reconstructions at the actual places of their first performance with the wiener Akademie under Martin Haselböck. I'm excited how it will be at the Konzerthaus!
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An analysis is so rewarding when chords and modulations are inserted. This is a good analysis, but with more chords and modulation it would be even better.
Great analysis! However, I think you should have mentioned that the fifth movement is in the less common sonata-rondo form, in which the music is structured like a seven-part rondo (ABACABA), but has musical elements of sonata form. The first ABA section is the exposition, with B, the first episode, being the second subject in the dominant key. Then A transitions smoothly into the second episode C, which acts as the development section, before retransitioning back into the second ABA section, which becomes the recapitulation, where everything stays in the tonic key for the most part. But, as is common with rondo form, the A theme is varied in certain aspects. A very interesting musical form that I feel is greatly underrated and not talked about enough...
I would love to hear more about the musical devices by which various emotive effects are achieved. The overall musical shape (dynamics, capitulations, contrasting themes, etc.) seems intuitively comprehensible to me, but learning about how modulations and other musical techniques produce these results would help my enjoyment enormously.
What I find fascinating is that, apparently, the 5th symphony, 6th symphony & 4th piano concerto all make use of the same 4 note motif.....albeit somewhat altered to fit each individual piece. It is quite noticeable between the 5th symphony & the 1st movement of the 4th Piano Concerto.
@@dan78789 off the top of my head I cannot recall. I just remember it coming up in a documentary about Beethoven.....& this specific concert got a special mention, along with the motif that connected the 3 pieces.
Ooooh, nice. Do you think there's any chance you could do Tristan und Isolde? Obviously Wagner is a big undertaking, but I'd love to have your help in listening to it. It's the one Wagner opera I cannot easily adore. To me, it still sounds like the voices and orchestra are doing completely different pieces for much of the work (barring the prelude and Liebestod, which are brilliant). I enjoy listening to Schönberg and Stravinsky, but right now I feel as if Tristan is beyond me.
I have two future video recommendations: (1) The music of Nobou Uematsu. (2) Discovering Chopin's Opus 25 No 11 AKA Winter Wind. Excellent analysis, sir!
I may be mistaking, but was it not that the 5th symphony may have been about the drama of Beethoven losing his hearing and 6th was him trying to "record" the countryside sounds he heard while being in natuke and everything...? This interpretation about the 6th has been the most striking for me and I have a feeling that it might just be true (?). I'm reading Beethoven's biography at the moment - Beethoven: Anguish & Triumph by Jan Swafford - this might give me an answer, but I'm just at when he as a young boy, about 70 pages in.
That's a lovely interpretation - and a nice way to think about it. Beethoven began to lose his hearing around his 2nd symphony. There may be some truth in that - but I have never heard it before! Don't know what evidence there is out there but it's a lovely way to think about it
Hi. I really like your videos. Looking forward to listening properly to this symphony soon. A couple of suggestions. I'm not sure if others would agree, but I'd prefer if you lowered the volume of your voice in the mix. When I'm listening in the car or something if I turn it up so I can hear the passages that are p or below, your voice, which is most of the audio, is a bit too loud. Second, what would be really helpful, but I understand would be a pain to set up and record, is when you are discussing the harmonics of the piece, to do so with a keyboard, so rather than just saying D Minor, you can play it as you say it.
hi Iove this piece and thank you for your analysis. After listening to one of your recommended version by Abbado, I found it was obviously slow. A conductor said he conducts Beethoven's symphonies according to the composer's speed, which most would consider fast in modern times. Do you agree with that?
For a simple reason: this is meant to be a podcast so something you would listen to more than look at, both for ease of production (it needs less time to simply register your voice than to edit it with images) and versatility of use
@@XMarkxyz That would be true if the same format were used for the rest of his videos. But this isn't just a podcast uploaded to youtube. Most other videos on this channel have visual information.
@@CurtisBooksMusic Hi - sorry about this. Yes this is a podcast - I upload it on standard podcast platforms, but I know my biggest audience is on RUclips so I also upload it to RUclips. I am at a busy university so during term time I don't have time to animate videos so often, so I make podcasts. Sorry about no score, but hopefully you can find one online to follow, if you'd like to
Why didn't Beethoven or the concert organizer put all the works into two concerts? Beside better musical quality they would have earned more money... Does someone know?
If I recall correctly, it was Beethoven himself who thought this would maximize his profits. He wasn't very bright when it came to business. Also, he couldn't do math beyond sum and subtraction (and even then made lots of mistakes).
Beethoven struggled for years with Vienna's bureaucracy to get a slot in venues. He finally got the Theater an der Wien in a busy season(Summer the aristocracy was out of the city. In the Fall the venues were full booked for Operas which was the preferred entertainment, but in the Advent and Lent Operas were forbidden, so they were used for instrumental music rehearsals and performances. December 22 is during the Advent) for a private benefit in exchange for several charity concerts he had given before. He got only this night so he packed several pieces.
Seems like a weak recording to me. I struggled to hear the constituent parts, like it all blended together as if they played slightly out of sync. I don’t know the technical term for this.
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The 6th is my favorite of Beethoven’s Symphonies. The 6th is just joyous in a way that even the 9th isn’t.
This is the absolute best content on RUclips!
I find to this piece to be so emotionally rewarding. You can really feel Beethoven's love of nature shining through.
Yes! One of my all-time favourite symphonies! Thank you, great video!
I could never analyse music nor do I have a vast knowledge of classical music, but I just wanted to say that two years ago I painted some rooms in my apartment and I listened to the Shepherds song for hours on end while doing that. For me it is just beautiful. So, imagine my joy at you analyzing this symphony.
This is one of my favorite symphonies. It is on my programming playlist! The fifth movement is my favorite. At 21:24 I love how, after the opening horn call, the theme is in two parts, the first part of the phrase seems to ask a question that gets answered in the second part of the phrase. So simple but so divine.
Same here, Beethoven's 6th, Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings, and Bach's Goldberg Variations (arranged for string trio) are my 3 favorite pieces to listen to while programming or studying
I know practically nothing about classical music but I love your videos. Thanks for making them!
A Masterpiece, my second favourite musical piece after only Beethoven's 9th symphony; it's like every note is in its right place, it's incredible to think that it was composed the same year as the 5th althought being completely different, the same year while Beethoven was thinking of committing suicide for his increasing deafness but the 6th it's anyway so sweet
Missed your videos! Looking forward to enjoy watching this one :)
A bit of historical background: at the time Beethoven wrote the 6th symphony, taking walks in the countryside for pleasure was a new and decidedly bourgeoise past time. The aristocracy either stayed in their parks or went hunting.
Beethoven writing a symphony that basically glorified hiking was in a way a veiled political statement in support of the emerging middle class.
Thanks for this! It's one of the many great Beethoven symphonies ... Please keep this channel going , it is top!
I almost never watch ads, but this time it was an ad with Hans Zimmer in it telling me to compose music. Very appropriate…
I love your content btw, keep on doing what you do.
- Some Belgian guy
Thank you so much for sharing with us such a good, comprehensive, analysis of a great work. Beethoven, I'm sure, is also very grateful to you.
I would suggest everyone who is familiar with the work to listen to Glenn Gould playing Liszt's piano transcription of this symphony.
It really gives a new perspective on the work and is one of my favourites recordings.
Interesting - I should definitely listen! Didn't know Gould had recorded these
Spot on mate, personally it's my fave Beethoven. It just works even better (for me) on piano.
This channel is a gem!
I love these in-depth guides so much! Beethoven being my favourite although I think it's his 9th Symphony that I love the most, it's one of few symphonies where I can honestly say that I love each movement equally :)
It's about time for the 9th symphony, o my brother.
@@dan78789 I wish I could tell the difference
Always such great analysis! Thank you!
The end of the fourth movement with its low basses and the whole fifth are awesome, one of the greatest moments of instrumental music of all time and the only one in the world that comes close to the ninth symphony - while being completely different. I'm getting goosebumps and wet eyes just by having it played in my mind. The splendor and the grandeur just keep on growing. It's gorgeous, making me feel great just by imagining it!
SO GOOD. More in-depth Beethoven please 🙏 ❤️
I'll be attending a recreation of the 1808 concert in January. Let's hope they don't turn off the heating in the Konzerthaus for greater historical authenticity 😬
Awesome! Where's that happening?
@@InsidetheScore At the Konzerthaus in Vienna. (Vienna Symphony / Philippe Jordan) Would've been even better had they chosen the Theater an der Wien - the actual location.😉 I wonder how long it will last - it starts already at 6pm with 2 breaks, which makes sense considering the program is more than twice the size of an ordinary concert.
@@matthiasm4299 Awesome - have a great time! Is it a well known orchestra/conductor/pianist?
@@InsidetheScore Thanks! 🙂 The Vienna Symphony Orchestra is more or less the No. 2 symphony orchestra in Vienna behind the Vienna Philharmonic. Philippe Jordan - their Swiss chief conductor - is a good Beethoven conductor and designated as the next music director of the Vienna State Opera (so there's a good chance you'll hear more about him in the future). I don't know too much about the pianist, Nicholas Angelich, but he's American so you might know him. 😉
Eyy, I try to get a ticket too. I've visited some historical beethoven concert- reconstructions at the actual places of their first performance with the wiener Akademie under Martin Haselböck. I'm excited how it will be at the Konzerthaus!
I can't understand why such an awesome video has only 8800 views.
Thankyou.
Very enjoyable!
WOAH! It‘s been a hot minute since the last installment of this series!
Also, when did you pass 100k subs? And how did I not notice? 👀
I discovered Beethoven and classical music thanks to Disney’s Fantasia I remembered watching it almost every single day when I was a kid.
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I visit your channel at least twice a day, waiting eagerly for any video you upload
In My country we don't deal with credit cards that much so unfortunately I can't donate to you :(
In wich country are you living?
If you’re up to the challenge I’d love to see you analyse Mahler’s 8th!
I cannot get enough of this! Thank you!
I love the first movement, especially when I was playing Kingdom Hearts 3D (the fantasia world). I died a lot, but I didn't mind
Please do some Schubert too
An analysis is so rewarding when chords and modulations are inserted. This is a good analysis, but with more chords and modulation it would be even better.
Very interesting and educational..
thank you.
I would love to see your analysis of Tchaikovsky's Manfred.
Great analysis! However, I think you should have mentioned that the fifth movement is in the less common sonata-rondo form, in which the music is structured like a seven-part rondo (ABACABA), but has musical elements of sonata form.
The first ABA section is the exposition, with B, the first episode, being the second subject in the dominant key. Then A transitions smoothly into the second episode C, which acts as the development section, before retransitioning back into the second ABA section, which becomes the recapitulation, where everything stays in the tonic key for the most part. But, as is common with rondo form, the A theme is varied in certain aspects. A very interesting musical form that I feel is greatly underrated and not talked about enough...
While I love the 9th, the 7th, the 5th, the 3rd, the 8th, the 2nd, the 4th, and even the 1st, this is special.
I would love to hear more about the musical devices by which various emotive effects are achieved. The overall musical shape (dynamics, capitulations, contrasting themes, etc.) seems intuitively comprehensible to me, but learning about how modulations and other musical techniques produce these results would help my enjoyment enormously.
What I find fascinating is that, apparently, the 5th symphony, 6th symphony & 4th piano concerto all make use of the same 4 note motif.....albeit somewhat altered to fit each individual piece. It is quite noticeable between the 5th symphony & the 1st movement of the 4th Piano Concerto.
@@dan78789 off the top of my head I cannot recall. I just remember it coming up in a documentary about Beethoven.....& this specific concert got a special mention, along with the motif that connected the 3 pieces.
Ooooh, nice. Do you think there's any chance you could do Tristan und Isolde? Obviously Wagner is a big undertaking, but I'd love to have your help in listening to it. It's the one Wagner opera I cannot easily adore. To me, it still sounds like the voices and orchestra are doing completely different pieces for much of the work (barring the prelude and Liebestod, which are brilliant). I enjoy listening to Schönberg and Stravinsky, but right now I feel as if Tristan is beyond me.
Wait until this weekend...!
Though this weekend will barely scratch the surface
omg just listened to the Norrington. Stunning so fresh and crisp.
I one day aspire to see a symphony I wrote be dissected like this. I still have a long way to go, but at least I'm improving with every piece I write.
From 23:35 it's just so beautiful
maybe you should add pictures to your videos like pictures of the concert hall etc
I have two future video recommendations:
(1) The music of Nobou Uematsu.
(2) Discovering Chopin's Opus 25 No 11 AKA Winter Wind.
Excellent analysis, sir!
I may be mistaking, but was it not that the 5th symphony may have been about the drama of Beethoven losing his hearing and 6th was him trying to "record" the countryside sounds he heard while being in natuke and everything...?
This interpretation about the 6th has been the most striking for me and I have a feeling that it might just be true (?).
I'm reading Beethoven's biography at the moment - Beethoven: Anguish & Triumph by Jan Swafford - this might give me an answer, but I'm just at when he as a young boy, about 70 pages in.
That's a lovely interpretation - and a nice way to think about it. Beethoven began to lose his hearing around his 2nd symphony. There may be some truth in that - but I have never heard it before! Don't know what evidence there is out there but it's a lovely way to think about it
Beethoven couldn't hear birdsong by then, so it's more memory.
The dynamics idea is interesting but I'm sure there must be motivic development as well.
Bohm/BPO is another great recommendation.
Hi. I really like your videos. Looking forward to listening properly to this symphony soon. A couple of suggestions. I'm not sure if others would agree, but I'd prefer if you lowered the volume of your voice in the mix. When I'm listening in the car or something if I turn it up so I can hear the passages that are p or below, your voice, which is most of the audio, is a bit too loud. Second, what would be really helpful, but I understand would be a pain to set up and record, is when you are discussing the harmonics of the piece, to do so with a keyboard, so rather than just saying D Minor, you can play it as you say it.
Finally!
The true successor of Vivaldi's Four Seasons.
I can't listen to this piece anymore without seeing in my head the animation version from Fantasia. Not that's that a bad thing.
Video suggestion: Hans Rott and his one symphony in E major
Also I suggest you to listen Wiener Philharmoniker and Christian Thielemann conducting Beethoven complete symphonies
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hi Iove this piece and thank you for your analysis. After listening to one of your recommended version by Abbado, I found it was obviously slow. A conductor said he conducts Beethoven's symphonies according to the composer's speed, which most would consider fast in modern times. Do you agree with that?
What about symphony 10 Beethoven
FYI, you forgot to include this video in the "Discovering Classical Music" playlist.
Considering the amount of editions in the public domain, why am I staring at a title card instead of the score?
For a simple reason: this is meant to be a podcast so something you would listen to more than look at, both for ease of production (it needs less time to simply register your voice than to edit it with images) and versatility of use
@@XMarkxyz That would be true if the same format were used for the rest of his videos. But this isn't just a podcast uploaded to youtube. Most other videos on this channel have visual information.
@@CurtisBooksMusic Hi - sorry about this. Yes this is a podcast - I upload it on standard podcast platforms, but I know my biggest audience is on RUclips so I also upload it to RUclips. I am at a busy university so during term time I don't have time to animate videos so often, so I make podcasts. Sorry about no score, but hopefully you can find one online to follow, if you'd like to
@@InsidetheScore Thanks for the reply. :)
Classical music cannot express the precise sentiment "fuck bitches, get money." And rap music cannot describe a pastoral countryside.
Idk Mozart was pretty good at the first half of the axiom. Getting money however.... Sheesh
Why didn't Beethoven or the concert organizer put all the works into two concerts? Beside better musical quality they would have earned more money...
Does someone know?
If I recall correctly, it was Beethoven himself who thought this would maximize his profits. He wasn't very bright when it came to business. Also, he couldn't do math beyond sum and subtraction (and even then made lots of mistakes).
Beethoven struggled for years with Vienna's bureaucracy to get a slot in venues. He finally got the Theater an der Wien in a busy season(Summer the aristocracy was out of the city. In the Fall the venues were full booked for Operas which was the preferred entertainment, but in the Advent and Lent Operas were forbidden, so they were used for instrumental music rehearsals and performances. December 22 is during the Advent) for a private benefit in exchange for several charity concerts he had given before. He got only this night so he packed several pieces.
Seems like a weak recording to me. I struggled to hear the constituent parts, like it all blended together as if they played slightly out of sync. I don’t know the technical term for this.
Who wrote it?
Dude, do you even read comments under your videos? I've told you you forgot to add this video to the playlist.
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Are you exurb1a?