Ep48 - Getting STUCK on the Technical Driving Course at Overland Expo East
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Vlog 48
This is the SECOND part of DAY ONE at Overland Expo East 2017. In this episode, we go into DETAIL how to handle technical terrain, as from our class: Picking a Better Line, hosted by Graham with 7P International. He was fantastic, the class was awesome and I LEARNED SO MUCH.
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I just wanted to express my genuine appreciation for the promoters and organizers of Overland Expo East (and west), Jonathan and Roseann Hanson. I'd also like to formerly acknowledge the course instructors, Graham Jackson and his associates that assisted in the class instruction. I appreciate their preparation and all the knowledge I acquired in their winching class.
I said it at the end of this movie (I believe), but I feel it important to mention here as well: Watching these movies is a fantastic way to learn, I watch videos on RUclips all the time to figure out how to do stuff. But NOTHING replaces the physical experience of attending a class, interacting with the other class members and instructors, and witnessing live situations and all the variables that can play in with varying personalities.
In full disclosure, I have had conversations with the event promoters and they did ask that I offer some clarification, hence what I have above - HOWEVER, I absolutely agree with this and freely offered to publish this in the description of this movie.
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I love what you're doing. Unlike a lot of these channels/guys, you don't act like you know everything or have an ego that typically comes with "adventurers" or "overlanders" It's refreshing to watch your stuff that's super real and not overdone or overly dramatic.
I agree with Jason here. These classes are indispensable. Especially for those of us who are just getting our feet wet in Overlanding, and into that difficult terrain. Thanks for the excellent video. Not just entertaining, but a good training video as well.
You are motivating people. Everytime I watch one of your videos I get a burning need to get up into the Rocky mountains again. Thankfully they are really close.
Qeldroma3111 That’s awesome! I can’t wait for the Rockies to be close to me! I was just watching a movie about black bear pass, I’m thinking to myself how much fun that would be.
Jason Koertge there is so much good stuff out here. Im thankful every day to live here.
Jason Koertge yeah, we need a video on it from you! We did imogene pass this summer and had a blast. Wish I could have captured it in your video style
Good to see the children enjoying the experience.
Great video, I loved watching the instructor talk people through the details on what exactly is happening at each moment. I learned a lot in the small amount of time. I'm gonna have to go to one of these someday.
Jason, Great as always! I last did most of this stuff from 15 to 10 years ago, taking a break while the kids were young. I'm getting back into it and I find your videos to be a great motivator for myself and my kids. I've watched many but it's your editting and your story telling that really set yours apart from others. I think you manage to keep an engaging pace but also have the little moments of truth. It's entertaining and endearing.
Personally, I think giving a name, "overlanding", to adventuring with your vehicle has really spurred a true community that didn't really exist in the same way before. With regard to the course, you nailed it. Even when you are experienced, a good course/instructor will still teach you something. Utimately, you have to put your knowledge into action and experience the variables that creates to really learn how to do something.
Ah great comment! I hadn't thought about the concept/idea of naming camping/vehicle-based adventure travel actually creating a community out of something that has actually been in existence as long as we've had some form of transportation - but you're right! And I absolutely agree on the front of learning. I'm more experienced today than I was a year ago, but I will have more in my toolbag of knowledge in a few years than what I do now!
Great video! You did a great job capturing everything we learned in the course. Thanks for the feature.
Staples InTents yes! Love you guys!!
Looks like a great event. Your videos have motivated me to get back into off-roading. Picked up my 2017 TRD Off Road 4runner a couple months ago. Maybe we will see you next year at this event!
That was cool. I need to take a course like that!
So glad I bought the Trail Edition. Nice to see your OME in action.
Another great video bud. It's so wonderful seeing your kids excited about going to these events with you.
Great video. Can’t wait to get to an expo and learn...👍
The 4Runner fam will always remember Jason. He was a champion. I have even money that says Jason will one day return. For some reason he has been enticed by the dark side. Luke, I'm yer father...LOL.
Thanks for sharing! I know it's best to get experience and take a class and I plan to do so, but what you shared was a great help.
I know other have said this, but thanks for all your videos, I look forward to seeing them!
👍👍 Sweet! It was nice meeting you in person. Love all the videos especially Ep45. NICE WORK!
Thanks! Nice to meet you as well!
I'm just curious if you've ever had a neck injury in your past? It appears like you never turn your neck -- you always move your upper body instead. I didn't know if it was due to a prior injury or just an affectation you've developed over the years. Thank you for your great videos... as someone looking to get into overlanding, they are an incredible resource to see your progression. I'm also enjoying your editing style -- loved the fast rewind to start this episode.
Curtis Bridges that’s Jason’s trade mark
I’ve asked the same I’m really curious lol
Probably had lyme disease in the past.
FInally realized who you reminded me of: Max Headroom
Keep it up Jason, your videos are great. Editing solid, music cool. Can't wait until my kids are old enough to take on some overland trips in my 4Runner.
Thanks for another great Video!
Another great vid, Cool kids, you must be very proud of them, looking forward to more vids.
Lol@ "Please don't do that." Jay keep up the great work.
Hey Jason, I have a lot of fun watching your channel :-) Thumbs up from UAE!
Love the beginning.
That was a sweet beginning.
Really enjoying your channel Jason (and a beautiful family)! Ready to pull the trigger on a 2018 4Runner TRD Off Road this week (think I can do better modifying that one rather than spilling my guts on a TRD Pro) and pouring through videos, reviews, ideas and your channel stands out from the rest. Inspirational to say the least as this opens doors to different possibilities from what we were considering before as I head closer to retirement age. We were thinking of some kind of Class B or C motor home but have always preferred camping and you opening up an option I'd really like to explore. Thank you my American Brother from Canada eh!
Thanks for the kind words! You’re gonna love the 4runner!!
I know! Drove one for a whole week last year, just a limited model and was smitten. Looking forward!
Great as always! Keep it up!
Another great one!
🤣🤣🤣reminds me of the time you flipped your trailer
Next Rosegarden Hill? I’ve enjoyed watching you learn a lot, Jason, way to go.
I can't even describe how awesome your editing skills are. Are you self taught, or have you had formal editing classes / training?
Great job dude!
Walking it first, ugh, so true. Ages back, my best friend and I were in a remote area of Alaska outside of Fairbanks to the east, about 40 miles. We thought (we were both tired, and were about to be even more tired soon) oh this is an easy push to that part of the stream to fish. We were wrong. We sank up to the frames in some sort of strange clay, that looked hard in the lights it was night.
Luckily we had bug spray with us, as the bugs were the absolute worst, shovel broke half way through the night, it was September and quite cold at night working in moist dirt. We eventually gave up, started walking through the bush, and ended up at someone's house who pulled us out. I remember the 1986 (this was in 1991) Toyota extra cab pickup needed at minimum a new clutch.
Point of the story, walk it, and yes, I have been with buddies all over in different areas, Oregon, Montana, Idaho and now Arizona, annoying them with? Getting out, looking, probing, then going. I haven't been stuck since, seriously.
FOLKS, there's no clearance!! It's like driving a mini van. My mother-in-law used to race a Wrangler through the forest full blast.
This all seems more than a little tame to me.... If not boring... LOL
Great work 👍
Great vlog. I want to check out an off road driving course near me now and get some skills. Great video, can't wait for the next one 😎
Landcruiser FTW!!
Great video Jason. I need to find some course like this out my way.
you know whats fun? getting stuck in the desert near sea on quick sand!!! my friends car was stock it took us 3 cars to pull him... the bottom of the car was resting on the ground and his wheels were almost buried .... we stayed all night waiting for someone to pass by as we did not have cellular service ....
You know I have to apologize. I've subbed but I'm always forgetting to "like". huh? Uh does that mean I have to watch all your videos again? alright I guess I can do that . . . . and by the way your 4runner is every bit of the word "swell". Thanks for putting all your vids up I just hate to be you when you're trying to make sense of your footage to put these vids together for all of your fans.
good stuff, thanks for sharing
awesome videos!!
People complain that Land Rovers have no flex, should look at the Jeep at 5:20. A classic example of increasing your lift to fit larger tires, much to the demise of your axle articulation.
I like the music at beginning
Good job taking the “hard line” way to not be a bitch! I’m thoroughly enjoying your videos!
Is it me or did that marshals accent seem to disappear half way through? Anxiously waiting for the next video man🤞🏽hope all is well
Lol, look at the flex on those wheels😂
Yuppies actually take wheeling classes, this is hilarious
Ya, totally. Douches that sanctimoniously comment about other people doing things, also hilarious. Im gonna be prophetic here...."Cammy" is the worlds best, naturally talented off- road king... (I nailed it, ya?) P.S. Not everyone is a barn dweller; driving an old knackered locked diff. farm turd that ya just "go" with. jus sayin.
I know...it’s pretty funny. It’s the male equivalent of yoga for city folks.
Great video! I just recently subscribed to your channel after watching your install your bumper with your kids! How do you like your ragofab window storage? I just bought a pair a week ago and I'm excited to put them on. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and journey with us!
If you go to Moab in May, ping me, and we can go shoot drone footage outside the parks, up Gemini Bridges and Crips Hole, and go loop the White Rim Trail. Then south to some awesome ruins like Moonhouse (video on my channel). I've been exploring out there for 35 years, and every trip discover something new and amazing. I use the 4-Runner to get to cool places, rather than to assault the terrain, which is why I have 260k and 19 years on it, and it's still going strong. Ever driven a manual 4-Runner? So much fun, so direct and unfiltered, although now your videos are inspiring me to cough up $50k and upgrade. My bank account says, thanks, Jason, thanks a lot. :-) Love your videos, your rig and your kid's commentary. Keep it coming.
It would be interesting to see how crawl Control would handle that
Great stuff. Thanks. .... What do you think about the 4Runner capabilities?
I’m pretty novice but so far so good!
Been binge watching your channel today, what car are you driving? I would like to steal the diffs off one for my third gen hilux surf 😂 could we get a car check/walk around and what youve done to it!?!?!?
hey Jason - what front bumper set up is on the car in this video? really like it. Also, I'm a total noob, first truck, but trying to educate myself as much as possible. I've read some about the factory vehicle safety rating things being effected with regard to airbag deployment, otential frame damage from minor accidents, etc from putting an off-road bumper on. Do you know much about this?
Much thanks and cheers
Did you give your kiddos walkie-talkies to carry around? We've talked about this option for when we go to OXW this year.
Hey Jason. Did you have to do any cutting to fit the 285s? Do you ever rub? Did you have to replace the front upper control arms with the lift?
Yea it rubbed. Had to do the fender liner mod...
Hmmm, interesting, I have a tundra and its 4x4 but lacks a locking diff. I wonder if I really need it if I off road like you do or will bigger tires and maxxtracs suffice, what do you think?
Where do u fo 4x4 classes
Question not related to this video.... do you have a trd cold air intake in your 4runner?? I’m looking for different perspectives and what people think about it before I buy one .... thanks
cool vid! makes me want to take one of those classes (when I get my rig). are the classes included in admission to the various expos, or is there a separate price?
There is regular admission, and a higher level that includes classes.
Jason Koertge thank you for your reply on a year old vid.... hoping to get to expo west this year
how high a lift is your rig? and do you have a video with the shock and suspension you're running? Thank you
Did you pull a muscle in your neck because you move like a robot?
What size tires are you running?
Have you modified your suspension any? Wasn't sure if your front articulation was stock or not. I feel like I don't have that much on my 4th gen with the X-Reas package that I have. Haha
JensAlan yep. 3” OME lift. I think I can get more travel with upgraded upper control arms. But don’t quote me on that
Jason Koertge how much did you spend on the lift with labor? Curious. :)
I run the OME 3" in front, 4.5" in back with the JBA UCA. They're awesome :)
do you think it would have tipped with a RTT?
Is that creaking noise a good thing?
Just curious, but did they specifically tell you to start the exercise without the locker engaged and not aired down? Didn't know if that was more for teaching purposes, since a lot of people don't have that feature
js92css no no. It was mentioned that airing down is always ideal. But for the class it wasn’t reasonable for everyone to do that. It’s likely not everyone would have had the equipment to air down/up. As far as the rear lockers - I asked about this because I’ve not been of the mindset to be changing that stuff mid obstacle - this is a school of thought kinda thing. Some believe its best to only use when needed. Others feel it’s best to engage prior. I tend to lean towards the former now since locking the rear diff can really change the terrain fast.
Jason Koertge I have heard that many times as well, in respect to the rear locker. I will definitely try to put that habit to practice. I normally lock up if I think its a possibility I will need it, mostly because our Xterra takes almost a full wheel revolution to engage.
Keep up the good work!
I understand there can be 2 schools of thought, but i disagree not engaging Locker "until" you need it. I drive a old school part-time 4 x 4 with open fr. and rr diffs, btw. I think not using Locker is predominantly counter intuitive and ego driven. When you approach an obstacle, I believe you assess the line, and engage neccessary tools to pass. That may mean choosing to engage 4 lo or 4 high, and locking rear. You are more likely to alter terrain by being unlocked, but I gotta hand it to him, that's sophisticated thinking that the locker can have this negative consequence, i'll hand that to him, but that is simply rarely the case. You rarely need it anyways, so you might as well engage it as much as needed to keep it lubed and aware its working. What if it fails to engage mid obstacle, you are better knowing before you are stuck mid obstacle. So what if you "didn't need it, you will be in better control and usually easier on machine. Not engaging front locker has benefits to preserve steering, so in dual locked you can decide not to use, "unless needed" so that makes sense. If you are not locking for fun, have at it, but at risk for tearing up vehicle and track more for next guy. Especially, when your particular machine is open only without it. Rare machines that might have LSD when unlocked makes more sense, and that should be the default, not open. That's why improved electronic locking scenarios make a lot of sense, since its always there when needed, even unexpectedly. Purist poo-poo anything other than switchable full lockers, but automatic locking schemes are better, allowing less sophisticated drivers to succeed without having to strategize the locker deployment. That's why military hummers and J8 jeeps don't use lockers, but use helical diffs with electonic brake based locking. When bullets are whizzing by, you do not want to be fiddling with the decision to lock, and if the skilled driver is incapacitated, any soldier can jump in and try to squirt to safety. Also for fun on flowing trails, where different terrain conditions are rapidly changing, its better also. Otherwise, just wheel a 2WD with open diff and sssssssend it!!!!!! Ha ha....
Did you remove KDSS?
Why does every 4runner owner think A-Track is the best system to use? Rock mode people, rock mode will get you out every time.
Really? I’ll have to play with that!!
Jeep Wrangler would jump over that
That’s not how marshaling works 😂
That's not 22° it is easily 45° with 4runner
Damn that "Instructor" is annoying AF. I couldn't finish the video.
If that was a Toyota Landcruiser than its out dated as in Australia we have the twin turb diesel V8 with 5.2 litres and six speed auto . Out performs the old 100 series Landcruiser by a country mile. Also what the hell has happened to the 4runner , Its now one of the ugliest vehicles I have seen and also way to low for Australian conditions. I`ll keep my 4rd gen 4runner anytime over this model shown in the clip. Traction control waste of time. diff lockers win everytime over traction control
pretty much the worst spotter on planet earth.
random blasting music made me stop watching