Finding Out That We All Have Hidden Racial Bias | Regardless Of Race: 5 Years On - Part 1/2
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2022
- In a brand-new addition to the Regardless of… series, Dr. Janil Puthucheary (OnePeople.sg) revisits the issue of race - in the wake of multiple reports of racist incidents since the pandemic started.
Yet, in a nationwide survey, Dr. Janil discovers that even more Singaporeans identify themselves as hardly or not racist at all, compared to 2016 survey. Are most of us really ‘not part of the problem’? To find out, he gets the help of experts to put everyday Singaporeans in uncomfortable social experiments.
Do you really get a lower salary by simply having a Malay name? How far reaching is rental discrimination for someone who is Indian? Why do these things happen again and again, even when most of us are not overtly racist? From workplace discrimination to implicit biases, these experiments confront us with hard truths on how and why we can be racially biased… and not even know it.
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About the show: The string of racist incidents since the pandemic started has thrown Singapore’s racial harmony into doubt. By digging into the science behind racism, can Janil Puthucheary find new working solutions?
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I can testify that I'm a living example of someone who had a bad time with my birth name. Went for 14 months without a job and barely any interviews (even though I had a 1st Hons BA) and when I changed my name so that it was fully English and Christian (and excluded race from my resume), my hit rate for interviews magically went up.
whats ur race sir?
@@affiliatelab4372 I'm mixed Indian, but with Christian and Muslim parents. My birth name was was in three, with a combination of names that were Hebrew/Muslim + Christian + Indian.
@@moltenbullet you sure it is because of your race, not your nationality?
In Malaysia if the Malays call the Chinese pigs or swines and even on the media the Chinese have to endure it. Whereas if you call only one Malay 'pig' anywhere there's a great possibility that it might cause you your life. Just ponder on it Malaysia's Malay-sians AND Singaporeans!
One more important factor u might have missed is that u don't speak Mandarin Chinese and dialects. It's an advantage for the Chinese employee to communicate with majority of the Chinese population and the elderly. Please be more understanding about the true facts and reality.
I think the fact police are investigating more incidents is a good thing. It means they are taking them seriously, at last.
Why is Singapore population's race ratio remains the same over the decades despite the low Chinese birth-rates and high Malay, Indian & others birth-rates?
Magic hahaha. Give citizenship most likely i guess.
@@elgoogkcus462 Once we have traitors holding the top ministerial positions, the declining Chinese population here will be compensated back (added up) by bringing in more Malaysian Chinese and Chinese PRC.
gov keep giving more citizenships to overseas Chinese
@@muhammadridzwan5909 Actually not that many now. Those from India and Malaysia been granted more PRs and Citizenship status. You will know this info if you have a relative working in the immigration records keeping department.
Gov needs to maintain or risk the consequences of joining back Malaya. Malays in Singapore is the highest.
I like the implicit bias experiment. As mentioned, it is impossible to get rid of it but that makes it even more important for us to be aware of it so that when we are going to make important decisions, we take extra effort to circumvent it.
For example if you are interviewing two candidates for a particular role, you could write down the strengths and areas of concerns for each candidate. Then base your discussions on these traits that are written down to take the attention away from impressions made while reminding yourself to only focus on what is written down.
… and you are saying that their skin color isn't going to matter?
It will not work if you have a preference already.?
How about… learn your history well.
Realize that they are in a position that they were forced into… and have been criticized FOR IT… every since.
That way… you really are unbiased?
This is sad but very true :(
To say the least it pretty shocking that these problems are around is very troubling actually
We need to keep these kind of conversation going as long as we can about race baise on every aspect of each person's life
It can help in understanding of race can affect every aspect of on's life i say
I have been telling these issues to my Chinese colleagues, friends, bosses etc. BUT they always deny and gave all sorts of excuses and reasons. Most of the Chinese dont accept that they are racists and doing many wrong things. As long as one dont accept their wrong, things wont change.
So you are not racist? Prove it
@@leehyunsong7001 can anyone prove they are not racially biased? I have a cultural bias and it informs my decisions even among my fellow Indians, as indian culture in SEA is different from the Indian subcontinent. And my fellow Indians call me racist! By adjusting my behaviour, I'm trying to accommodate and it gets misinterpreted some of the time. We used to be able to joke about it in my youth. No one felt slighted. Now it's another minefield that has to be navigated carefully. It doesn't help when we're constantly told to introspect.
In Malaysia if the Malays call the Chinese pigs or swines and even on the media the Chinese have to endure it. Whereas if you call only one Malay 'pig' anywhere there's a great possibility that it might cause you your life. Just ponder on it Malaysia's Malay-sians AND Singaporeans!
*can you give some examples and let the youtuber to judge on excuses and reasons?* _racists exist in all races. the best ways to solve a problem is to bring it up and discuss about it._
@@foowayne2947 also same in china la just reverse the situation. Nobody’s a saint.
fighting racism is like counting sands one by one
It's a crime to be racist ..its really sickening and the pledge basically has no meaning other than going through the motion
we only say pledge in the morning at school. most singaporeans dont even know the pledge fully after they exit that school environment.
I love this so much
Wait, wouldn't increased investigations be a good thing? It's more indicative of increased awareness, not increased racism.
Is about time the government should look into racism. We are Singaporean. Regardless of the race we should respect each other and do not judge each other please? Don't be racial biased!
thank u Liz. What u can do is to represent us. When u see racism, speak up :)
@Liz Thng...There are no races in Singapore the concept of ''race'' is part of racism. A Malay and a Han Chinese are still Eastern Asian people. A Indian is a South Asian or Desi.
Can you please conduct a survey re age discrimination? Thank you
of names, and this is the story told to me by someone of mixed heritage. her father is chinese. her mother is Indian. she inherited most of her mother's physical features.
she speaks fluent mandarin like her father does. on ic, she is "chinese"
her full name is english first name followed by chinese surname. example: alice goh.
she went to an interview. at a hair salon. the hair salon did ask for mandarin speaking.
they called her name, and she stood up and approached. the person who called her name was confused and again called out "alice goh"
"im alice goh"
the person: youre not chinese.
yes. she got really upset, and expressed her displeasure in mandarin. and she left.
Racial bias starts with a cognitive bias associated with upleasant experiences. When I make an intentional effort to remove the cognitive bias, I am able to create many happy relations with other races with pleasant experiences. Think of connecting with the person as who they are and not what so call defines them.
What bad experience did the Europeans have with blacks?
I have never stop making people realize.
. Imagine
coming to the conclusion, through these research and tests, that it is racism is overly simplistic and i think, lazy. Perception is caused by various factors, one being the repetitive traits of a particular race for example. Those traits then become stereotypes which could then determine a race’s employability for that matter. In order to break that, the race in question should break those stereotypes. I’m indian, but i learnt at a young age to break away and form my own identity that would fall less within the stereotypes of my race. The result is that I actually command that’s respectable to my experience and value.
I used to have an chinese teacher that teaches english but does not speak chinese. I remember i once asked my indian colleague if he wants to have prata for lunch together, he call me racist🤣. Seems like in a multi racial country we cannot assume each race favourite food. Also I used to work in a retail game shop, i always recommend my malay customer soccer games like FIFA when they ask what game to recommend since i know whatever game i recommend they will still choose a soccer or sports game, not sure if its considered racist or not.
15:06 Singapore Indian turned Malay president earned more than $4,000 per month for window display.
This kind of social experiment should be done in Malaysia as well as you there is the thing called institutionalise racism in the form of the 1970s NEP policies that tend biasly favour the majority.
I think we can only achieve & maintain racial tolerance but never true racial harmony.
2min 26s - "how it is in our nature to have prejudices"- there, you said it.
when inappropriate stress eg masking and silly SMMs were applied to society, our natural behaviour/response takes over...
Sad but true
the pairing of names and positive negative category would be more accurate if we do Chinese negative last so that we make sure it's not because the person is getting into a flow of stacking those cards.
Oh yeah absolutely it would magically show we are less racist than it seems kumbaya my lord!
@@QuintessentialFlyer734 that's just a scientific consideration of the experiment given that the gap isn't very wide. I'm not hinting at any conclusion.
Ok lah props to Janil and co for being willing to admit that racism is real and affects livelihoods. That is progress for this country. Next step is acknowledge racism is institutionalized and systemic.
21:12 How do they know other races are paid more? Are they from HR or Managers?
i think by different people....some didn't know they been paid lower in previous job so once they change job the new company just automatically add by fixed percentage increament
when it comes to rental property, is not only different for different races, under the same race, different origin country makes a difference too.
This tells me nothing other than we have BOTH a racism and xenophobia problem.
the answer is actually in Islam.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said, "All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action..."
you will never find a practicing Muslim, a racist.
{ Note: not Muslim by name, but by practice. Islam categorically condemns racism.}
People who are racist tend NOT to have a religion. or if they do have a religion, that religion of theirs does not condemn racism.
Singapore still has racism. But its subtle - but still, dangerous. Its the reason why people of different race have superficial relationship when they interact with those of different race.
the answer is actually in Buddhism.
Lie
@@tianm1m160 Maybe you should read more about what is happening in Myanmar(about the Rohinjas and Buddhist monks) and Sri Lanka (about Muslims, Hindus, and, again militant Buddhist monks). Racism starts at home. When you see a racist, overwhelmingly, their parents are also racist.
LOL! Muslims always TALKING more melodious than SINGING itself! ( shuo de bi chang de hao ting )
*Muhammad, muslim leader calling the Ethiopian (black) slave as 'raisin head' not racist?* I rather calling them as brothers and sisters..
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*who started to insult and call the Ethiopian (black) slave as 'raisin head'?*
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[Sahih al-Bukhari: 7142] 93 Judgments (Ahkaam). (4)Chapter: To listen to and obey the Imam.
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose *head looks like a raisin."*
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 7142
In-book reference : Book 93, Hadith 6
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 9, Book 89, Hadith 256
(deprecated numbering scheme)
Well Miss Universe 2022 is Miss India, just so everyone whom is racist against Indians are aware. India has produced more pageant winners than most contries have. Men from India are a different category altogether.
Is there anything related to RACISM or rather national pride?! 牛头不对马嘴！
would a Person of X race be also racist be against Their own X race? Eg if the person hiring is of X race and the candidates are X, Y & Z race and their qualifications are all the same , who would the hirer of X race choose? X, Y or Z
As a Chinese Singaporean myself who owns a recruitment agency outsourcing manpower to local companies, I would say that even if you are an Indian or a Malay candidate who spoke fluently in Mandarin or other Chinese dialects, the interviewers would gave excuses saying that the Chinese elderly or customers would prefer to liaise / communicate with a person coming from the same race. They just wanted to hire a Chinese looking person that matches the race description in their NRIC. In this current generation, there are many minorities in Singapore who spoke better Mandarin than some of our own Chinese people. We have seen the increase of Indians professionals who used Mandarin as their primary language at seminars, business conferences and university lectures. The issues here now is that the "Mandarin language requirement" used by Singaporean Chinese employers is just similar to a cloaking entity design to hide their actual racism behind it.
Make it a mandatory law for every single companies in Singapore to have an interview panel consisting of 3 different races interviewers. This is to prevent favoritism, racism or racial profiling. Chinese interviewer either hired a Malay or Indian candidate, Malay interviewer hired Chinese or Indian candidate, and Indian interviewer hired Malay or Chinese candidate.
This is done in the UK by a manpower and consulting company named PwC. There is no such thing as same race must hire same race. If we don't prevent such practice from taking place in every job interviews, then the we are only enabling the interviewers / employers to disrespect minorities even if they have similar or even better qualifications than the Chinese candidates.
I have been saying for years, we are all racists. Even people who stand for other race is a form of reverse racism. What's we need is to learn respect!
except the muslims. would u like to know why?
@@affiliatelab4372 yes please!
@@jejewa2763 thank you Jeje.
Ignorant "Muslims" who are lacking in knowledge may be racist.
but a practicing Muslim that understands the message of Islam, will never be a racist.
Because our Prophet clearly says that you are not better than the other just because of skin color.
Here are his words.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said,
" All mankind is from Adam (a.s) and Eve (a.s).
An Arab has no superiority over a non- Arab, nor does a non-Arab have superiority over an Arab;
a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over a white,
- except by piety and good action. "
end quote.
So u want to be better than me in God's Eyes? No problem.
Apply this sentence to your life, "piety (closeness to God) and good action (deeds)"
and in the Quran, God says
“O humankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another.
Indeed, the noblest of you in the sight of God is the most righteous of you. Indeed, God is Knowing and Acquainted.”
(Quran 49:13)
you can DM on Tiktok if you have any questions.
My handle is @remindersoftruereality
There is no solution on this issue universally because it was created by God in the first place for reason only known by its creator.
Age plays a part
It will continue to rise, due to the implicit nature of global capitalism and authoritarian/non-democratic govts who divide the working class. Nobody dares to critique those who profit off exploitation, war, speculation... in short structural or systemic problems with our political-economy. But we are more than willing to individualize crime, to point at the "soul" - as inborn/innate and blame individuals who fight amongst themselves over race, religion, language, etc. The real divide and cause of societal ills such as crime, is NOT petty anomic violence nor "unsound morals" but the violence that is done by the system against the people who fight hard to play by its rules because there is NO imaginable alternative to be excluded from an unjust system that presents itself as "fair" and "meritocratic". Thats the ailment of Singapore, and the world at large.
Racism exists but I hate to be lumped with those hold these attitudes! I know I love everybody regardless of race, language, religion, even social/economic background. I don't know if children are still reciting the pledge in schools or if there are DMs(disciplinary masters/mistress) patrolling (in a friendly way) in schools, but, I think inculcating good behavior with a little dose of fear induced discipline is not always bad. Today, you get to talk about what is acceptable/not acceptable punishment for young people who misbehave. In my time, no body talks about anything. You get whacked in front of the whole school (only boys) for serious infractions. These boys turned out pretty good later in life. Or did this only work in mission schools only? I don't know.
I always thought that Singapore was a super tolerant mixed society. The pandemics has brought out a lot of frustration and the scapegoat is a racial point of view which is useless in our daily lifes. I try to boycott chinese China goods due to revenge for China's bat karma and poaching. Yet I am not racist towards Chinese in my country.
daily life.
Counter argument which might get downvoted into the deepest trenches. I find it unfair for both employers and employees if a company is not allowed to require applicants speaking a certain language 31:23 What if the company's business focus requires them to interact with clients based out of china / india where the job actually requires the ability to be a fluent speaker of a particular language? A applicant might apply for the job with high hopes, the company would spend time and resources interviewing but never call up the applicant. Potentially a loss of 2-3 man hours for every job applicant per job, that is quite a cost in the name of counter-racism too.
Is it racial bias or mis understanding of other's cultures?
Edit: Not misunderstanding, but maybe more accurately a narcissistic view of self, reflected on others?
In Malaysia if the Malays call the Chinese pigs or swines and even on the media the Chinese have to endure it. Whereas if you call only one Malay 'pig' anywhere there's a great possibility that it might cause you your life. Just ponder on it Malaysia's Malay-sians AND Singaporeans!
If you dislike the people of a country, for God's sake don't plant your roots in another country when you find 'distasteful' of losing yourself. My China mother bluntly told me "China is no more your country. You are borned here and you loved these Malay people who had helped me when I left China" Her story of 'the two pieces of white steamed Ubi Kayu' that saved her on arriving from China.
Our integration is still lacking and I partly know why. My Opinion here can create more tension.
In Thailand, to a foreigner all Thais are Thai. There’s no Chinese Thai or Thai-Thai. One even didn’t knew it’s there.
Even the group and interviewing in this programme shows why…if one observe closely.
The Malays appears here and all media are either ladies, child, old folks or looks like Chinese. 😳
This is 1 issue.
There is a way around it. Pass a stiffer law to ensure that every single racist are being stripped of their privilege as a Singaporean. Meaning upon their first conviction, they will no longer have voting rights, no welfare support from the Government or any communities, no subsidies, not authorized to obtain an international passport, ineligible to purchase a property in Singapore.
If they repeated the same offence again and get second conviction, then their Singaporean status should be revoked and consider stateless. Doesn't matter if the convict is born and raised in Singapore. Other punishment includes affixing criminal status to the racist convicts identity such as "threat to society", "enemy of the state", and "caused severe threat to national security".
Wait…if it is indeed racism, then how come the incomes of indians are similar to chinese? Shouldn’t it sway in the favour of the chinese?
Isn’t it illegal to refuse to rent based on race??
it is but its still being done.
33:54 is the worst game/test ever. Maybe add 15 more steps to discover something more minuscule?
Odd……Don’t think you would find too many Europeans or Americans who would match “Chinese” with “positive” attributes….
There are racist acts by the majority races against the minority. Similarly, there are racist acts by the minority races against the majority. They work both ways.
The perfectionist attitude of Singaporeans is the problem.
Conclusion: Change your name to Chinese if you wish to live in Singapore.
Not only that! Must also converted from the most extremist religion in the whole wide world. Agreed? I'm the first one to raise both my arms and legs!
@Disenchanted Diversity just a eastern european immigrants to the US had their names changed so as to sound american, or, to the least, pronounceable by the people living in the US.
Just because there are more police reports/investigations, it doesnt necessarily follow that racism has increased. It could be other confounding factors like increased awareness, decreased tolerance towards racism, increased frivolity of complaints etc. Alternative reasons are myriad. To therefore assert that there's a cause & effect relation between increased police activity and increased racism is an overly simplistic non-sequitur.
The studies mentioned/carried out in this video:
171 chinese subjects (majority race) : salary discrepancy $100
15 sporean subjects (assorted races) : salary discrepancy >$200
All it suggests is that the non-chinese races may be even more prejudiced against their own kind
Lol 😂 what sort of pseudo science experiment is this?
Wayne Foo, [02/04/2022 13:49]
Malaysian civil servant to population ratio - 1 to 19.37 / AND more than 90% of them are the Malays. AND the highest civil servant ratio in the whole wide world. OMG!
Singapore civil servant to population ratio - 1 to 71.4
Indonesian civil servant to population ratio - 1 to 110
Is it a bias if their actions support the fact? People judge someone by their actions. Like in the US, (just an example), if crime statistics weren't dominated by black people, would people think black people are prone to commit crimes?
Think about it... If someone doesn't get hired, they would be more predisposed to crime. It becomes a vicious cycle. Those who get out of the cycle despite their lower starting point (due to the non-hiring, generations get affected again and again due to lack of opportunities, low education) would definitely not be predisposed to crime.
Wow the statistics are alarming. The Singaporean Chinese can do better.
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8:37 Ahh see...racism....dun give excuses. Should embrace and be inclusive right? Is this really true to the ground when I notice more of our Muslim folks driving BMs and VWs at MSCP?
The genz woke displayed racial bias, but won't admit. So disappointing and disturbing.
when come to working chinese is hardworking and efficient..that's business not racist/discrimation
What evidence shows you work hard? Lied hard is the exact word
singaporeans should learn from japanese. know that what you do impact others. dont do things that you dont want others do to you. as simple as that.
Don't forget Japanese killed millions of people on the surface of the earth, dube. And the proverb you and the Japanese quoted is actually derivation from one of the Chinese proverbs which had already existed thousands years ago.
Malaysian civil servant to population ratio - 1 to 19.37 / AND more than 90% of them are the Malays. AND the highest civil servant ratio in the whole wide world. OMG!
Singapore civil servant to population ratio - 1 to 71.4
Indonesia civil servant to population ratio - 1 to 114
So, Malaysia needs more of your humanitarian advice than any Asia countries do.
@@foowayne2947 erm ok?
The westerners put it this way : Little knowledge is dangerous! But most of the time, they themselves who twisted it, that's even more dangerous than ever it could be. Beware! Look before we jump!
U know that the Japanese are just a race of people right? Theyre not multi-ethnic.
Vive la difference!
Live and let live.
Before we even want to discuss and argue about discrimination, racism. Please consider removing the ban on the unvaccinated from public libraries, cinemas/theatres, gyms, shopping malls,etc.
Are they not Singaporeans?
Is their blood not the same as the rest?
Are they not taxpayers?
Now that is discrimination.
Sorry - discriminating people based on things they cannot control (e.g. race) vs things they can (e.g. idiocy) are two totally different things. You are showing yourself to be of the latter category by even making such an asinine comparison.
@@QuintessentialFlyer734 You do not have to apologise. You are entitled to your own opinions.
If one is born intellectually challenged, is also deemed as 'things they cannot control', using your words.
As a racist myself, that's awesome
What I don't understand is why they say Sporean Chinese hold important positions, when in MNCs I see mostly foreigners holding the top positions ? Is everyone just working in SMEs and Civil service ? Name MNC (non local) that has majority of Chinese Singaporeans.
Majority of the companies operating in Singapore and contributing to the country's workforce are owned by local Singaporean Chinese. This is the issue being highlighted by Mr Janil in the video. The local Singaporean Chinese companies consist of many Chinese people holding important position. If it is true, then Singaporeans of other races such as the Malays and Indians should highlight this matter to TAFEP for further inquiry and actions taken against these companies.
For MNC, those companies are mostly American or British owned. But their top positions are held by Indians, African American or other Asian ethnicity. At least they are not as bias as our local Singaporean companies who only prefer to hire Chinese for their management positions.
So basically this video is about problematic Singaporean employers / companies. Not MNCs.
@@Prometheus574 Strongly disagree with what u said about MNCs. They are very biased against SINGAPOREAN chinese and indians and malays. Where I worked, I was the only sporean in the project out of 40 people or more who were mostly INDIA nationals. Everyday was a struggle just to fight against discrimination IN MY OWN COUNTRY.
@@trentlim9964 What I am trying to say is that MNC companies in Singapore are mostly founded and owned by the Ang Mohs bosses. And yet the people working in the top position there are not Ang Mohs themselves. Mostly Indians, Filipino and Malays. You know BD, a huge MNC Medical company? Becton Dickinson Singapore? The plant managing director is a Malay Singaporean named Hashim Baba.
@@trentlim9964 Unlike Chinese Singaporean companies, where you will always see their board of directors and even project managers are majority Chinese. Other races are underrepresented in those appointments.
@@trentlim9964 The most biased people to work with are not just the arrogant Indians from India but also the ungrateful Johor Chinese who thought they can bring their revenge and racism towards the Malay people in Singapore. Especially if they are working as supervisor.