Did ANYONE even READ the game codex??? It's all in there! But still, nice video, keep it up. The 'first contact war' comic is called Mass Effect - Evolution (1-4)
I agree with your point; this is obvious information. But information that's just spit out at the start of the game, when you're not yet very familiar with the game, and are focused on understanding the mechanics, is easily forgettable.
1. I just love how excited you are to "reveal" something that is a common knowledge among ME fandom. 2. The radiation on Palaven has literally nothing to do with Turians being dextro... 3. Turians never fought with Rachni, they were discovered by the Citadel races during Krogan Rebelion.
To further extrapolate on point number three. The Turians were in fact encountered near the end of the Krogan Rebellions. They were asked by the Citadel to use their fleets to fend off the Krogan. And while the Turians were by far superior in fleet combat. They could only fend off the Krogans. After the Salarians unleashed the Genophage on the Krogan (which it still doesn't explain how a species that spans the galaxy fell to a virus planted on their home world), the Turians were given a spot on the council for their help in the war.
Robert Mayer no, just on Tachunka. The Krogan only had one world, since they were basically in a nuclear winter when they were discovered. Then uplifted for the racni wars.
Robert Mayer if I remember correctly that was part of the original deal. But they got to the point where they were taking worlds, thus began the war against them.
... The first contact war and the tension between turians and humans is explored by Nihlus, Presley, Ashley, Executor Palin, Anderson, Pinnacle Station, and an audio entry in the codex. I’m confused about the secrets part of this.
Halo and Mass Effect can both be loved, and not have to compete with one another! Sometime during my playthrough of ME3 I paused the game and spent a couple of hours reading all the codex, primary & secondary, in full. It is SO interesting. Then after completion of the trilogy I started watching all the lore videos, reading the wiki pages etc. I've only been this invested into fictional lore with Halo, Mass Effect & Star Wars. Seriously wonderful use of time. Beautifully created histories, species, stories & characters. God damn, I would love to be on a team that created these worlds.
You ever talk to Ashely once in this game? She brings it up a lot because her grandfather was the leader who surrendered to the Turians on Shanxi. This is also mentions a lot in codex entries and is literally in the conversation you showed in the beginning of the video. I’m pretty sure you can ask why Turians hate humanity and nihilus will tell you. I thought everyone knew about the first contact war.....
@@deltasquad62 nah pretty sure they did as did the rest of us, and NONE of the info in this video is new/secret info. Hence why their comment is valid.
01:38 Uhhhhh. The game does tell you about the war. It's mentioned everywhere. Literally, everywhere in the game, the codex, side missions, and dialogue with a dozen turian and human leaders. Ashley mentions her grandfather in conversation iirc as THE first military leader to sureender to the Turians. All of this information is in the game. So why label this video as "Mass Effect Secrets" aside from a petty attempt and securing views?
Why is every one caining the poor guy leave him alone why watch the video if ur such a mass effect nerd if u know every why u scrolling threw mass effect vids and why ain't u making the videos instead of this poor guy
@@danielmouse5436 You really don't need to be a mass effect nerd to know about the first contact war, you just need to play mass effect 1. You don't even need to read the codex, because the topic is brought up multiple time by different characters in game.
God damn this is just full of mistakes, - Turians used the genophage on the Krogan, the Salarians just developed it as a weapon of last resort - Turians are dextro yes, but that has nothing to do with their homeworld's weak magnetic field that didn't cause them to be dextro it just meant they evolved an exoskeleton - Turians weren't on the council during the Rachni War, they didn't join the council until after the Krogan Rebellion, before that they either hadn't made contact with any Citadel Races or were a minor species in Citadel Space - During the First Contact War the Systems Alliance fleet was very small (only around 200 ships spread across a decently large chunk of space spread very thin) and the only reason it won at Shanxi was because basically the whole fleet could be brought to bear in that single battle against a relatively small number of Turian ships not because the human fleet was exceptionally big or powerful - You say human had a "good number" of dreadnoughts, there would have only been a maximum of 3 dreadnoughts, probably 2 and probably fairly small dreadnoughts like the Everast class (which is less than 900m). Considering that during the first game the Systems Alliance is considerably larger and better established with more resources at hand to build a fleet with and it only has 6 dreadnoughts (still one of the larger dreadnought forces in the galaxy at the time but far behind the Turians, Salarians or Assari ) you can't claim that humans had a good number of dreadnoughts and make it sound like we had a couple of dreadnought squadrons ready to go without giving context - A war against humanity wouldn't have been long or particularly costly for the Turians at the time of the First Contact War at that point humanity had very little to defend itself with. The Council stopped the war because their policy isn't to immediately conquer a race they've just made contact with, generally they want to peacefully integrate species into Citadel space because that's generally far more beneficial for the Council (they're new people to sell things to and it's easier to sell things to people with a working economy and it's less expensive than wreaking their planets and that aforementioned economy). None of this was hidden in the games at all, it was talked about in conversations, explained in the Codex, some of it was pivotal to the storyline even, especially the stuff about the Genophage. A few minor details were brought up in other media like books and comics but the bulk was clearly explained in the games.
This was an amazing video. What some people don't get is that not everyone is gonna spend hours a day reading all the codex entries. This video is perfect because you summarized everything to something anyone can digest and even threw in some more obscure facts like about the illusive man and Saren's brother. I hope you do more of these in the future!
iirc humans didnt leave nukes in turian space - we launched rigged unmanned probes to try and find turian space - they just happened to be rigged with nukes - not sure what brilliant mind thought that one up >_< cause you know tossing nukes at random out into the vast galaxy at large couldnt possibly go wrong in any way shape or form lol
How stupid and prideful can the Citadel council get. Humanity wasn't in Citadel space and weren't under citadel jurisdiction. What right does the citadel have to set rules and regulations for races and civilizations that haven't met them yet and punish said races under a set of laws that couldn't and had not been known to them. The rest of the Galaxy would consider Humanity as a bunch of barbaric warmongers because of this even when we were shot at for something we didn't and couldn't know was wrong by people we couldn't have met yet or even dreamed of existing. Not to mention the Turians invaded and occupied one of our colony's even after just showing up and shooting..
Well, actually the only enforce rules like the AI ban or the opening of new relays which can be dangerous to the whole galaxy, which is kinda understandable. I mean if somewhere something would be invented which might be able to end all life on earth, don't you think that the governments of the world would try to avoid that at any cost?
I mean they could've just you know SAID THAT to us. I mean they just showed up and started shooting and its us Humans who are seen as Barbaric warmongers. If they had just explained things and you know done first contact correctly none of this crap would've happened its just the Turians for all their abilities apparently had a lapse in logical thinking. I mean when a person is caught speeding do police just "pop a cap" in the guy, no they turn on their lights and pull them over.
This makes me wonder: If the Asari, Salarians, and Turians run the galaxy and rule from the Citadel, what was to stop the Korgans, the Quarians, the Batarians, and even the humans from teaming up and starting their own council? I mean, at any time, the other species could have easily started a galactic war if they convinced the lower class to join the humans.
The First Contact War has been mentioned and referenced throughout the series. How were you not aware of that? In fact, much of the galactic distrust in humanity comes from the human race being arguably the "youngest" of the sentient races, like a child vying for a spot at the adult table. The war left some bad blood between humans and turians and human colonization got some bad blood from the batarians.
literal sarcasm I really want to see mass effect series in either Netflix or hulu but no CW please,I was thinking could be animation or live action with the best or worst cgi ever.
This info is mostly available in the Codex of the games. So it's not really a secret. People should pay more attention to the Codex itself since it gives more detail about the Mass Effect universe than the in-game dialogs.
PLEASE!!! continue to make Mass Effect videos! this is by far my favorite game series out there, right next to Elder Scrolls and Fallout. now, I've already gone through "almost" every single codex in the game, but you don't have any idea about how good it is hearing it instead of reading it. Especially in your sexy (no homo) voice lol. Much love a long time subscriber
He's saying all this like the codex doesnt explain anything... like the game itself doesn't tell you if you actually talk to npcs... i mean talk to anderson foe christs sake! he was in the first contact war! then play 2 and 3 and there's nothing to question in backstory and lore because it's all right fucking there!
The game tells us on multiple occasions about the first contact war, it is no way a secret. The Turians were not apart of the Rachni wars as they first contacted the Citadel midway through the Krogan rebellions.
I swear they explain the whole Us and Turians thing in the backstory codex's in ME 1. They get into the wars and repear encounters. Arachni was I believe the most recent which caused the whole genophage thing since the krogan became limited time war MVPs.
The real kick in the ass for Turians is that the humans did not have access to the technologies collectively created by the citadel. 9mm handgun verses avenger, lol.
The game does tell you why they hate humans. Numerous times actually... Not to mention to codex tells you more details about literally everything. Makes me kind of wonder how much of this game youve actually played lol.
"Where is this coming from?" I could nerd out for a long time about the First Contact War (the Relay 314 Incident to the Turians) and why Turians resent humanity. "What the game doesn't tell you?" All this information is freely available in the game and no one should be unaware.
Agreed. IMO, first half of the game could be 1st Contact War (after all, it was a brief and rather small war), and the 2nd half could be about exploration of this new wider, galactic society that opened up to humans after the Contact War. The protagonist might even be the Illusive Man. That would be cool IMO :P
I love the lore of the Mass Effect world and knew of the war, and of the Turian saltiness, but never guessed how intertwined those were together. Thanks for clarifying so many details!
No, there is 2, the Tyranid and the zerg (Also the zerg kinda have multiple since their hive fleets each have a seperate hive fleet (I think) and the genestealers definitely do)
Lion Hamster genestealers are independent,they don’t rely on the hive mind for anything until more tyranids enter the area it marked for them,whereupon the hive mind overrides its independence and forces it to fight with the others.I don’t know much about the zerg,but I know an absolute fuck-Ton about the nids.
Lion Hamster you’ve got a point,I think I read somewhere once that each norn-Queen interprets the hive minds will differently,and as such each fleet is entirely unique,see “leviathan,” “kraken,” “hydra.”
0:11 The entire point of that line is to get the player wondering. And when you gain control of your character, you're given a notification that you have new Codex entries. 'What does that mean?' you might ask yourself. So you pause the game, see Codex in the menu, and open it up to discover that it's a literal encyclopedia of the Mass Effect universe, including the First Contact War between the Turians and Earth.
The Turian’s weren’t introduced to galactic civilization until after the Rachni War and during the Krogan Rebellion. That law surrounding the Relays was already in place by the time they joined the Citadel Council.
i bet you the council would of given us a seat if otto von Bismarck had been alive or had done the negotiations because he leverage there fear and throwing some of reparations away and than blame the salarians for there lack of oversight that almost cause a full scale war and he would asari if they dont want to be dragged down just give them a council seat
Made my day to get to watch a Mass Effect video that I haven't already seen. Love Mass Effect and can't get enough of it! I really enjoy your channel, wishing you the best and happy hunting!
Just a thought whilst watching but there’s a historical war called the opium war between the British empire and the Chinese that still sours relations today between China and the west. It wasn’t a first contact war but many of the stigmas the British got were similar to the the systems alliance. Unlike the systems alliance though some were quite valid. Maybe an inspiration for the mass effect team
This is inaccurate. This "Golden Age" predated the Turians being part of the Citadel. The Asari and the Salarians were working together, got screwed by the Rachni, uplifted the Krogans, beat the Rachni, got attacked by the Krogans, met the Turians, got the Turians to join them, beat the Krogans, then ran into the humans. Also, I don't think the Turians developed reverse chirality due to the nature of their sun. It's just a roll of the dice for evolution.
No disrespect but this is old news which is in the codex/journal of the pause menu and if you paid attention to the dialogue of all three games. (Andromada is more focused on the new galaxy then the old one) yea it's neat that your delving into the lore like this but posting this in 2018 after the fact these games have been out for years, it kinda makes it.........................stale
Actually in m e 1 you can learn pretty quickly that saren hates humans from talking to Anderson and the turians and humans had a relatively recent war, if you get 1st place in all the simulations, the admiral on the pinnical station unlocks a special mission based on a mission he was on in the first contact wars vs the turians it was actuallt pretty cool attention to detail it fit very well in the game.
I'm pretty sure the alliance (humanity) collected most of the nuclear probes, and only a few were left because they didn't respond to the recall signal and thus couldn't be collected/investigated without drawing attention to the effort. Though, I'd prefer to double check, but that'll be days before I could be back at that mission again.
There is a nice short book about how Saren found Sovereign called Revelation. It tells about the time Anderson worked with Saren and lost the chance of becoming a specter due to Sarens brutality. Man Saren is just brutal.
I know this vid is two years old but I’ve only just found it and you’ve probably been told this a million times, the games tell you over and over again about the first contact war, literally the first 2 people you speak to in the game tell you about it, in all the games they talk about the big events of the first contact war too such as Shangxi
"the humans, were a fucking threat" lolol that gave me a good laugh. I always knew that turians were salty about the first Contact War. And I thought I knew everything about it but I guess not. good video man. Man I miss stories that were this fleshed-out Mass Effect will always be my favorite sci-fi story
Plus the turians are also known for domiating and vassalizing lesser races, this is mentioned in several places and two turians state thisas the turians intent in a recording from the war, when two turians were interogating a captured human soldier.
The fact that turians are based on dextro-amino acids has nothing to do with the radiation from their home sun. Life can start with either dextro- or levo-amino acids and it's random which one prevails. Once one does, that form of life is unable to incorporate the other kind. However it is statistically more likely for life to evolve using levo-amino acids for sciencey chemistry reasons. Turians and quarians are outliers because of that, but you have other weird forms of life. There's a planet in ME1 with silicon-based life. The volus are still levo-amino but evolved in a high pressue ammonia atmosphere, and the protheans have quadruple-helix DNA. Honestly the fact I find strangest about the races in Mass Effect is how any two can still have so many similarities, given what's possible. But there's a lot of lore pointing at protheans and/or the reapers altering the course of evolution of species with potential.
To sum it up, the sheer determination of the human race was enough to knock the whole galaxy of it's feet. The fact that an unknown race was able to cause catastrophic damage even when they were outnumbered because of their incredibly strong will shook the milky way to it' core. hell, even the reapers started hunting us first through the collectors. isn't that hint enough?
MrRhexx, do better research before making your next video. Several points you make are directly contradicted by in-game codex entries and dialogue options. Navigator Presley and Ashley Williams both speak about the First Contact War. Wrex speaks about the Rachni Wars and how the Turians used the Genophage on his people. The codex goes into minute detail about all the species and galactic history. The Turians and Quarians have dextro-amino acid based biology, which isn't determined by the planetary magnetic field. The high concentration of metallic elements in turian skin evolved due to the weak magnetic field of Palaven.
Hm... reminds me of my surprise when the Turians had an apocalypse system in tuchanka in case the Krogan came back full force and how bad that seemed....imagine how surprised the characters would be if they knew humans had a NMAD(not mutually assured destruction) system in place for the turians.
Actually it does mention some of the First Contact War as the Relay 314 incident which is what the Turians called it much like how America calls the Seven Years War the French and Indian War in which both names for it are not wrong. I think the game mentions something about reparations for the Relay 314 incident in those news things you hear in the elevators on the Citadel in the first mass effect.
If you literally speak with Ashley and Presley, they tell you about a lot of the First Contact War between the humans and turians. Yes, it was shitty at the time. Later, after the war ended, both species did work out their differences. Overall, you learn more if you talk more to all species in the game.
yeah seriously what i judged by the thumbnail i assumed it was about like "secrets between interspecies sex you prolly didnt see in game" awesome video though do you know what music you used MrRhexx at 8:05, its bomb-- sounds like a remix of me3 music somewhere lol
So all that could've been avoided with proper communication and wouldn't it be a better idea to open dormant Mass Relays, send scout teams in and shutting them down immediately to assess whatever is on the other side in case its a galaxy level threat that would've just eventually activated the Relay on its own?
Acording to me, Shepard made it! He chose the green path in the end of mass effect 3 and Peace and tea party with the reapers, the cycle dies and...... and the Milky way did not became the end and Andromeda is not neccecary any moore.
the funny thing about this war was the turians thought that the few outer colonies they destroyed was the bulk of the human forces and that they were very primitive but after a few months the reinforcements from earth arrived and the turians were like what the fuck. I read this bit in mass effect 3 lore section.
the probes werent actually littered over turian space - they were launched to try and find turian space - or more likely some sort of home system - you know so we know where to punch to make it count instead of just throwing body shots without any real impact infact if you follow the codex through and play it right theres actually a part in me1 regarding this exact detail and they admit they launched them basically without a real target as they didnt know where exactly to aim them - the little side quest where you have to recover and decomission a nuke - that just happens to be one of said probes that and i quote " got very badly lost" - atleast i think thats the line - gimme a brake its been years since i played the first mass effect - i wont go into further detail as that would certainly cross spoils territory but yeah it actually gives you some details if you have high enough para and rene points and press for them.
What I never understood was how the hell were we the aggressive species? We got attacked first and had one of our colonies taken by Titian’s for awhile on top of that the only sections of space we colonized were sections not under citadel control. I never understood that. Somehow we are bad people when we did nothing wrong.
Actually, if you pay attention to what the rachni queen tells Shepard either herself or through the asari on Illium, the rachni queen believes that the reapers caused the rachni wars because rachni ARE NOT inherently violent in any way. She says that something caused the viciousness and rage of the queen before her, and hints that she believes is was the reapers. The same dissonance is present in Mass Effect 3 when you complete the mission for Wrex with Arlahk Company, and that is why the queen fights the reapers.
Did ANYONE even READ the game codex??? It's all in there! But still, nice video, keep it up.
The 'first contact war' comic is called Mass Effect - Evolution (1-4)
apperently no one did..., and i think some in the treaty of farixen it says that bombarding a garden world from orbit is prohibited, but i'm not sure
yeah... "no one tells you about this", i think you can talk about the first contact war with ashley in the first game
If you play the games as many times as i have you don't need the codex
how many times did you play the triology? I think I have played them about five or six times if not more
other than ME1, which i haven't owned until recently, about as many as you
You know the 2nd NPC you speak to tells you about the first contact war right? Presley in fact.
I agree with your point; this is obvious information. But information that's just spit out at the start of the game, when you're not yet very familiar with the game, and are focused on understanding the mechanics, is easily forgettable.
The first contact war was never explained at this level of detail in game. MrRhexx is awesome.
1. I just love how excited you are to "reveal" something that is a common knowledge among ME fandom.
2. The radiation on Palaven has literally nothing to do with Turians being dextro...
3. Turians never fought with Rachni, they were discovered by the Citadel races during Krogan Rebelion.
To further extrapolate on point number three. The Turians were in fact encountered near the end of the Krogan Rebellions. They were asked by the Citadel to use their fleets to fend off the Krogan. And while the Turians were by far superior in fleet combat. They could only fend off the Krogans. After the Salarians unleashed the Genophage on the Krogan (which it still doesn't explain how a species that spans the galaxy fell to a virus planted on their home world), the Turians were given a spot on the council for their help in the war.
i think the genophage was released on all krogan worlds, and then they destroyed all those worlds besides Tuchanka.
Robert Mayer no, just on Tachunka. The Krogan only had one world, since they were basically in a nuclear winter when they were discovered. Then uplifted for the racni wars.
I had believed that part of the deal with the krogan was that they got some of the rachni worlds as colonies?
Robert Mayer if I remember correctly that was part of the original deal. But they got to the point where they were taking worlds, thus began the war against them.
... The first contact war and the tension between turians and humans is explored by Nihlus, Presley, Ashley, Executor Palin, Anderson, Pinnacle Station, and an audio entry in the codex. I’m confused about the secrets part of this.
mass effect has a codex that explains alot of the background
KonicavaBR halo ain't for stupid people dude look at the lore for it
Halo and Mass Effect can both be loved, and not have to compete with one another!
Sometime during my playthrough of ME3 I paused the game and spent a couple of hours reading all the codex, primary & secondary, in full. It is SO interesting. Then after completion of the trilogy I started watching all the lore videos, reading the wiki pages etc. I've only been this invested into fictional lore with Halo, Mass Effect & Star Wars.
Seriously wonderful use of time. Beautifully created histories, species, stories & characters.
God damn, I would love to be on a team that created these worlds.
You ever talk to Ashely once in this game? She brings it up a lot because her grandfather was the leader who surrendered to the Turians on Shanxi. This is also mentions a lot in codex entries and is literally in the conversation you showed in the beginning of the video. I’m pretty sure you can ask why Turians hate humanity and nihilus will tell you.
I thought everyone knew about the first contact war.....
thehucklebillyfenn did you watch the whole video before you commented?
To be fair, never talking to Ashley is the moral thing to do.
@@deltasquad62 nah pretty sure they did as did the rest of us, and NONE of the info in this video is new/secret info. Hence why their comment is valid.
This is a surprise only for those people who don't bother checking out the codex. Or pay attention in general.
Schazmen Rassir or play the game.
01:38 Uhhhhh. The game does tell you about the war. It's mentioned everywhere. Literally, everywhere in the game, the codex, side missions, and dialogue with a dozen turian and human leaders. Ashley mentions her grandfather in conversation iirc as THE first military leader to sureender to the Turians.
All of this information is in the game. So why label this video as "Mass Effect Secrets" aside from a petty attempt and securing views?
Why is every one caining the poor guy leave him alone why watch the video if ur such a mass effect nerd if u know every why u scrolling threw mass effect vids and why ain't u making the videos instead of this poor guy
@@danielmouse5436 You really don't need to be a mass effect nerd to know about the first contact war, you just need to play mass effect 1. You don't even need to read the codex, because the topic is brought up multiple time by different characters in game.
"What the game doesn't tell you..." The game tells you
Turians "you can not weather the storm"
Humans: "I am the storm"
I knew about the war vaguely but I did not know how fucking awesome humans were
God damn this is just full of mistakes,
- Turians used the genophage on the Krogan, the Salarians just developed it as a weapon of last resort
- Turians are dextro yes, but that has nothing to do with their homeworld's weak magnetic field that didn't cause them to be dextro it just meant they evolved an exoskeleton
- Turians weren't on the council during the Rachni War, they didn't join the council until after the Krogan Rebellion, before that they either hadn't made contact with any Citadel Races or were a minor species in Citadel Space
- During the First Contact War the Systems Alliance fleet was very small (only around 200 ships spread across a decently large chunk of space spread very thin) and the only reason it won at Shanxi was because basically the whole fleet could be brought to bear in that single battle against a relatively small number of Turian ships not because the human fleet was exceptionally big or powerful
- You say human had a "good number" of dreadnoughts, there would have only been a maximum of 3 dreadnoughts, probably 2 and probably fairly small dreadnoughts like the Everast class (which is less than 900m). Considering that during the first game the Systems Alliance is considerably larger and better established with more resources at hand to build a fleet with and it only has 6 dreadnoughts (still one of the larger dreadnought forces in the galaxy at the time but far behind the Turians, Salarians or Assari ) you can't claim that humans had a good number of dreadnoughts and make it sound like we had a couple of dreadnought squadrons ready to go without giving context
- A war against humanity wouldn't have been long or particularly costly for the Turians at the time of the First Contact War at that point humanity had very little to defend itself with. The Council stopped the war because their policy isn't to immediately conquer a race they've just made contact with, generally they want to peacefully integrate species into Citadel space because that's generally far more beneficial for the Council (they're new people to sell things to and it's easier to sell things to people with a working economy and it's less expensive than wreaking their planets and that aforementioned economy).
None of this was hidden in the games at all, it was talked about in conversations, explained in the Codex, some of it was pivotal to the storyline even, especially the stuff about the Genophage. A few minor details were brought up in other media like books and comics but the bulk was clearly explained in the games.
Corey Micallef also the mistakes about the rachni to they was controlled by the reapers the prothean confirmed this in me3 dlc
You’re doing the lords work my dude. I would have had to make this list if you hadn’t already done it. Papa bless.
This was an amazing video. What some people don't get is that not everyone is gonna spend hours a day reading all the codex entries. This video is perfect because you summarized everything to something anyone can digest and even threw in some more obscure facts like about the illusive man and Saren's brother. I hope you do more of these in the future!
Humans: We left behind some party gifts in case you want to go for round 2
We do love our parties and the pyro(nuclear)technics that come with these...
Akoda yes we do... yes...we... do...
iirc humans didnt leave nukes in turian space - we launched rigged unmanned probes to try and find turian space - they just happened to be rigged with nukes - not sure what brilliant mind thought that one up >_< cause you know tossing nukes at random out into the vast galaxy at large couldnt possibly go wrong in any way shape or form lol
First Contact War: Humans killed a lot of Turians. Turians killed a lot of Humans. Seriously, listen to the codex.
Hayden Travis if it was the UNSC from halo that the turians fought then there would be allot more body's.
Correction Turians killed a lot of humans and Humans killed a lot more Turians
How stupid and prideful can the Citadel council get. Humanity wasn't in Citadel space and weren't under citadel jurisdiction. What right does the citadel have to set rules and regulations for races and civilizations that haven't met them yet and punish said races under a set of laws that couldn't and had not been known to them. The rest of the Galaxy would consider Humanity as a bunch of barbaric warmongers because of this even when we were shot at for something we didn't and couldn't know was wrong by people we couldn't have met yet or even dreamed of existing. Not to mention the Turians invaded and occupied one of our colony's even after just showing up and shooting..
Well, from what I got, the Citadel council didn't actually enforce anything on us, the Turians did without consulting anyone.
Well, actually the only enforce rules like the AI ban or the opening of new relays which can be dangerous to the whole galaxy, which is kinda understandable. I mean if somewhere something would be invented which might be able to end all life on earth, don't you think that the governments of the world would try to avoid that at any cost?
I mean they could've just you know SAID THAT to us. I mean they just showed up and started shooting and its us Humans who are seen as Barbaric warmongers. If they had just explained things and you know done first contact correctly none of this crap would've happened its just the Turians for all their abilities apparently had a lapse in logical thinking. I mean when a person is caught speeding do police just "pop a cap" in the guy, no they turn on their lights and pull them over.
This makes me wonder: If the Asari, Salarians, and Turians run the galaxy and rule from the Citadel, what was to stop the Korgans, the Quarians, the Batarians, and even the humans from teaming up and starting their own council?
I mean, at any time, the other species could have easily started a galactic war if they convinced the lower class to join the humans.
The First Contact War has been mentioned and referenced throughout the series. How were you not aware of that? In fact, much of the galactic distrust in humanity comes from the human race being arguably the "youngest" of the sentient races, like a child vying for a spot at the adult table. The war left some bad blood between humans and turians and human colonization got some bad blood from the batarians.
Mass effect would make an interesting Netflix series.
literal sarcasm I remember watching a RUclips channel that had this game play out like a TV show. It was well done
literal sarcasm YES!! Or a telltale games series
literal sarcasm I really want to see mass effect series in either Netflix or hulu but no CW please,I was thinking could be animation or live action with the best or worst cgi ever.
Vicent Serrano I'd like to see it made by the people who did alerted carbon
A live action would be amazing, but like most video game movies it'd get put in the wrong hands and be totally fucked up.
I feel like this is common knowledge for really any real mass effect fan. but whatev'es
“Real mass effect fan” what you gotta know this to like the game series?
Zack Thoreson I think this is common knowledge. You don’t have to be a “real” fan. Just play the first 15 minutes and you’ll know.
M4 Y20 I’m just wondering who watched this video that didn’t know these things. Idk. This was 5 months ago.
It is I haven’t even played any of the games and I know this
The game tells you about the First Contact War its in the Codex.
Nigga who reading that i’m here to shoot space guns on aliens
This info is mostly available in the Codex of the games. So it's not really a secret. People should pay more attention to the Codex itself since it gives more detail about the Mass Effect universe than the in-game dialogs.
PLEASE!!! continue to make Mass Effect videos! this is by far my favorite game series out there, right next to Elder Scrolls and Fallout.
now, I've already gone through "almost" every single codex in the game, but you don't have any idea about how good it is hearing
it instead of reading it. Especially in your sexy (no homo) voice lol.
Much love
a long time subscriber
Wait, but the game DOES tell you this! On Pineapple, I mean Pinnacle Station!
Yeah, but that's a DLC.
And the ps3 version doesn't have that dlc
Who cares about consoles?
And it still counts even though it's DLC.
Cloud Angel play the game for 15 minutes and you’ll know about this.
Though the rachni war was primarily due to reaper influence
He's saying all this like the codex doesnt explain anything... like the game itself doesn't tell you if you actually talk to npcs... i mean talk to anderson foe christs sake! he was in the first contact war! then play 2 and 3 and there's nothing to question in backstory and lore because it's all right fucking there!
Ashley Williams had a lot of good positions after meeting Shepard
dear god...
(Tali 4 lyf)
grimerime23 you're not wrong
ayyy
+grimerime23
Tali is worst LI
@Matt Allen (I'm the same guy you replied to, but I'm on a different account) That's fair enough,
were you a Liara kinda guy? lol
The game tells us on multiple occasions about the first contact war, it is no way a secret. The Turians were not apart of the Rachni wars as they first contacted the Citadel midway through the Krogan rebellions.
Ah man, I need a mass effect trilogy remaster!!
Well I have some news for you.
Done
I swear they explain the whole Us and Turians thing in the backstory codex's in ME 1. They get into the wars and repear encounters. Arachni was I believe the most recent which caused the whole genophage thing since the krogan became limited time war MVPs.
The real kick in the ass for Turians is that the humans did not have access to the technologies collectively created by the citadel. 9mm handgun verses avenger, lol.
Relay 314 incident
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You damn Turian
CPU Purple Heart/Neptune lololol
even though I knew about turian-human history I love that you made a Mass Effect video.
.... they literally talk about it in the first game. Ever heard of the codex???
You don't even need to look at the codex, just talk to executor Palin, Ashley, or Anderson
The game does tell you why they hate humans. Numerous times actually... Not to mention to codex tells you more details about literally everything. Makes me kind of wonder how much of this game youve actually played lol.
"Where is this coming from?" I could nerd out for a long time about the First Contact War (the Relay 314 Incident to the Turians) and why Turians resent humanity. "What the game doesn't tell you?" All this information is freely available in the game and no one should be unaware.
it would be cool if the made a prequel to the series about the 1st contact war. me3's combat system was really cool
Agreed. IMO, first half of the game could be 1st Contact War (after all, it was a brief and rather small war), and the 2nd half could be about exploration of this new wider, galactic society that opened up to humans after the Contact War. The protagonist might even be the Illusive Man. That would be cool IMO :P
Ooh, a story about the fall of the Illusive Man. That would be interesting.
I love the lore of the Mass Effect world and knew of the war, and of the Turian saltiness, but never guessed how intertwined those were together. Thanks for clarifying so many details!
Sorry but Tyranids (and their rippoff from Starcraft - Zerg) are very inteligent. We are talking about hive minds that can consciously manipulate DNA.
Xardis Hive *mind* ,there’s only one.
No, there is 2, the Tyranid and the zerg (Also the zerg kinda have multiple since their hive fleets each have a seperate hive fleet (I think) and the genestealers definitely do)
Lion Hamster genestealers are independent,they don’t rely on the hive mind for anything until more tyranids enter the area it marked for them,whereupon the hive mind overrides its independence and forces it to fight with the others.I don’t know much about the zerg,but I know an absolute fuck-Ton about the nids.
The broodmind isn't THE hivemind but it is a hive mind, the zerg also have a bunch kinda, they aren't hiveminds at all, just minds that control hives
Lion Hamster you’ve got a point,I think I read somewhere once that each norn-Queen interprets the hive minds will differently,and as such each fleet is entirely unique,see “leviathan,” “kraken,” “hydra.”
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The entire point of that line is to get the player wondering. And when you gain control of your character, you're given a notification that you have new Codex entries.
'What does that mean?' you might ask yourself. So you pause the game, see Codex in the menu, and open it up to discover that it's a literal encyclopedia of the Mass Effect universe, including the First Contact War between the Turians and Earth.
This games have so much potential it's unbelievabile. I hope they give it another shot in the next years and bring the old feeling back to life.
The Turian’s weren’t introduced to galactic civilization until after the Rachni War and during the Krogan Rebellion. That law surrounding the Relays was already in place by the time they joined the Citadel Council.
i bet you the council would of given us a seat if otto von Bismarck had been alive or had done the negotiations because he leverage there fear and throwing some of reparations away and than blame the salarians for there lack of oversight that almost cause a full scale war and he would asari if they dont want to be dragged down just give them a council seat
Made my day to get to watch a Mass Effect video that I haven't already seen. Love Mass Effect and can't get enough of it! I really enjoy your channel, wishing you the best and happy hunting!
Just a thought whilst watching but there’s a historical war called the opium war between the British empire and the Chinese that still sours relations today between China and the west. It wasn’t a first contact war but many of the stigmas the British got were similar to the the systems alliance. Unlike the systems alliance though some were quite valid. Maybe an inspiration for the mass effect team
This is inaccurate. This "Golden Age" predated the Turians being part of the Citadel. The Asari and the Salarians were working together, got screwed by the Rachni, uplifted the Krogans, beat the Rachni, got attacked by the Krogans, met the Turians, got the Turians to join them, beat the Krogans, then ran into the humans.
Also, I don't think the Turians developed reverse chirality due to the nature of their sun. It's just a roll of the dice for evolution.
No disrespect but this is old news which is in the codex/journal of the pause menu and if you paid attention to the dialogue of all three games. (Andromada is more focused on the new galaxy then the old one) yea it's neat that your delving into the lore like this but posting this in 2018 after the fact these games have been out for years, it kinda makes it.........................stale
Even though the subject isn't as secret as you first believed, your enthusiasm is on another level and I love that. :)
Great video! Very interesting.
Game Ideas:
"Mass Effect - First Contact War"
"Mass Effect - Rachni Threat"
"Mass Effect - Krogan Glory"
Actually in m e 1 you can learn pretty quickly that saren hates humans from talking to Anderson and the turians and humans had a relatively recent war, if you get 1st place in all the simulations, the admiral on the pinnical station unlocks a special mission based on a mission he was on in the first contact wars vs the turians it was actuallt pretty cool attention to detail it fit very well in the game.
More Mass Effect, hell yes!
I'm pretty sure the alliance (humanity) collected most of the nuclear probes, and only a few were left because they didn't respond to the recall signal and thus couldn't be collected/investigated without drawing attention to the effort. Though, I'd prefer to double check, but that'll be days before I could be back at that mission again.
The first contact war is explained perfectly fine through out the trilogy...
5:07 damn bro those baby krogans got me in. Y feels man
There is a nice short book about how Saren found Sovereign called Revelation. It tells about the time Anderson worked with Saren and lost the chance of becoming a specter due to Sarens brutality. Man Saren is just brutal.
A like your narrations, I already knew the story from ingame information, but the way you talked it was more enjoyable
Fastest 17 mins of my life,Keep this up MrRhexx!You're the best!
I know this vid is two years old but I’ve only just found it and you’ve probably been told this a million times, the games tell you over and over again about the first contact war, literally the first 2 people you speak to in the game tell you about it, in all the games they talk about the big events of the first contact war too such as Shangxi
I love your DND videos and these! Great for at work
How is it not in Mass Effect 1? There is a codex entry about the First Contact War.
"the humans, were a fucking threat" lolol that gave me a good laugh. I always knew that turians were salty about the first Contact War. And I thought I knew everything about it but I guess not. good video man. Man I miss stories that were this fleshed-out Mass Effect will always be my favorite sci-fi story
Worth noting that the Turians don't consider it a "war". They refer to it as the Relay 314 Incident
Plus the turians are also known for domiating and vassalizing lesser races, this is mentioned in several places and two turians state thisas the turians intent in a recording from the war, when two turians were interogating a captured human soldier.
I remember Mass Effect telling us about the First Contact War though if you did the right side-quests and dialogues.
This is literally a dream come true. A 20min MrRhexx video about FREAKING TURIANS?!?!?
Yes but it took one to continue his calibrations and two shots from a cannon to shoot down a collector ship.
The fact that turians are based on dextro-amino acids has nothing to do with the radiation from their home sun. Life can start with either dextro- or levo-amino acids and it's random which one prevails. Once one does, that form of life is unable to incorporate the other kind. However it is statistically more likely for life to evolve using levo-amino acids for sciencey chemistry reasons. Turians and quarians are outliers because of that, but you have other weird forms of life. There's a planet in ME1 with silicon-based life. The volus are still levo-amino but evolved in a high pressue ammonia atmosphere, and the protheans have quadruple-helix DNA.
Honestly the fact I find strangest about the races in Mass Effect is how any two can still have so many similarities, given what's possible. But there's a lot of lore pointing at protheans and/or the reapers altering the course of evolution of species with potential.
And to think such a great video game had a sequel like andromeda :(
and to think an idiot never learned to quit bitching about something he didn't like despite it being a relatively decent game
Elder Maxson... Shouldn't you be taking the fight to the institute?
Why are you here?
Piper omg piper, please don't report this
Elder Maxson... If my little sister gets snatched up by an institute synth I will have to report this
Piper you should talk to Nick Valentine
“ What the game didn’t tell you...” OHH MY GOD YES IT DOSE. Like half your crew talk about it.
You do Mass Effect content too? YES!
Great vid and I love Mass Effect; more vids please.
keep the mass effect videos coming
First contact war??? The back story between Sarin and Anderson? Common man!
Mass effect did a good job in writing department of giving you different sourses on same topic of lore
To sum it up, the sheer determination of the human race was enough to knock the whole galaxy of it's feet. The fact that an unknown race was able to cause catastrophic damage even when they were outnumbered because of their incredibly strong will shook the milky way to it' core. hell, even the reapers started hunting us first through the collectors. isn't that hint enough?
The game tells you about the First Contact War if you speak with Pressly before meeting Nihlus
Love video's like this i am such a fan of the mass effect universe and cant get enough. wich is why i watch these video's
Rhexx my dude. You should 100% do a mass effect lets play
MrRhexx, do better research before making your next video. Several points you make are directly contradicted by in-game codex entries and dialogue options. Navigator Presley and Ashley Williams both speak about the First Contact War. Wrex speaks about the Rachni Wars and how the Turians used the Genophage on his people. The codex goes into minute detail about all the species and galactic history. The Turians and Quarians have dextro-amino acid based biology, which isn't determined by the planetary magnetic field. The high concentration of metallic elements in turian skin evolved due to the weak magnetic field of Palaven.
I love that this is onenof the few scifi that humans aren't pushovers
Hm... reminds me of my surprise when the Turians had an apocalypse system in tuchanka in case the Krogan came back full force and how bad that seemed....imagine how surprised the characters would be if they knew humans had a NMAD(not mutually assured destruction) system in place for the turians.
Shepard shouting : do you want to live forever!?!
Actually it does mention some of the First Contact War as the Relay 314 incident which is what the Turians called it much like how America calls the Seven Years War the French and Indian War in which both names for it are not wrong. I think the game mentions something about reparations for the Relay 314 incident in those news things you hear in the elevators on the Citadel in the first mass effect.
Makes me so fuckin proud to be human knowing how badass to say the least we are
Hey bro, you will make more D&D videos?
Contos Obscuros i hop he does
If you literally speak with Ashley and Presley, they tell you about a lot of the First Contact War between the humans and turians. Yes, it was shitty at the time. Later, after the war ended, both species did work out their differences. Overall, you learn more if you talk more to all species in the game.
The Codex does not support this action.
yeah seriously what i judged by the thumbnail i assumed it was about like "secrets between interspecies sex you prolly didnt see in game"
awesome video though
do you know what music you used MrRhexx at 8:05, its bomb-- sounds like a remix of me3 music somewhere lol
So all that could've been avoided with proper communication and wouldn't it be a better idea to open dormant Mass Relays, send scout teams in and shutting them down immediately to assess whatever is on the other side in case its a galaxy level threat that would've just eventually activated the Relay on its own?
About those probes... Well the Turians cant complain, they had a FUCKING PLANET BUSTER BOMB on the Krogan Homeworld after the war.
Codex = First Contact War
Second = Ashley Williams = Ask her about her Father (Or was it her grand father).
Acording to me, Shepard made it! He chose the green path in the end of mass effect 3 and Peace and tea party with the reapers, the cycle dies and...... and the Milky way did not became the end and Andromeda is not neccecary any moore.
I don't have the game but I'm just getting interested in the saga, thank you very much for the video
I got all excited thinking this was about more intimate stuff
the funny thing about this war was the turians thought that the few outer colonies they destroyed was the bulk of the human forces and that they were very primitive but after a few months the reinforcements from earth arrived and the turians were like what the fuck. I read this bit in mass effect 3 lore section.
the probes werent actually littered over turian space - they were launched to try and find turian space - or more likely some sort of home system - you know so we know where to punch to make it count instead of just throwing body shots without any real impact
infact if you follow the codex through and play it right theres actually a part in me1 regarding this exact detail and they admit they launched them basically without a real target as they didnt know where exactly to aim them - the little side quest where you have to recover and decomission a nuke - that just happens to be one of said probes that and i quote " got very badly lost" - atleast i think thats the line - gimme a brake its been years since i played the first mass effect - i wont go into further detail as that would certainly cross spoils territory but yeah it actually gives you some details if you have high enough para and rene points and press for them.
2:36 That would make a great mass effect dlc
Wow, I had no idea how epic humans were in the mass effect series. Kicking Turian asses? damn
What I never understood was how the hell were we the aggressive species? We got attacked first and had one of our colonies taken by Titian’s for awhile on top of that the only sections of space we colonized were sections not under citadel control. I never understood that. Somehow we are bad people when we did nothing wrong.
More Mass Effect! More Mass Effect! Its really good :)
Actually, if you pay attention to what the rachni queen tells Shepard either herself or through the asari on Illium, the rachni queen believes that the reapers caused the rachni wars because rachni ARE NOT inherently violent in any way. She says that something caused the viciousness and rage of the queen before her, and hints that she believes is was the reapers. The same dissonance is present in Mass Effect 3 when you complete the mission for Wrex with Arlahk Company, and that is why the queen fights the reapers.
I've played through these games around 15+ times now.