Damn it’s crazy that they so seamlessly managed to make Triska’s two abilities have exactly 13 words. It reads so naturally, I never noticed it. Like they wouldn’t have worded it any other way anyways.
That pronunciation of Ezio Auditore da Firenze actually dealt me psychic damage. Seth, this one you can actually learn, it's Italian, a good ol' Earth language instead of being some fantasy language without a language guide.
@@MTGGoldfish 'sok, it's part of the Seth charm. Ezio is a beloved character from the franchise though, if you plan to play with him it might save you some headaches (and snarky comments like mine) later on to look up how to say his (and other Assassin's Creed characters) names. Them being in video games does make this pretty easy at least. :D
If Italians get upset when you break spaghetti to cook them in a small pot, I can't imagine what they'll feel when they hear your pronunciation of Ezio
I’ve been convinced for ages that Seth deliberately mispronounces stuff to make pedants comment as an engagement juicing tactic for the algorithm. I feel like mangling Ezio that egregiously clinches the theory. Nobody gets it THAT wrong by accident.
My personal theory is that Seth is honestly a bit dyslexic and a bit liberal with pronuntiations, but it ended becoming a running joke plus a boost to engagment so he never tried to fix it, and throws a random misspronunciation on a funny or known name like Ezio just for giggles xD
Shoehorned joke: What did Yugi's alter ego do to the sandwiches he made? He Atem. (ngl, I got a little bit triggered by your pronunciation of "AH-TEM-SIS" but I quickly took a deep breath, laughed, and got over it)
I built a first turn win deck with Cheese Stands Alone. Of course u couldnt play it in regular play because of different reasons reasons, but it was a cool deck to show people.
Historic Fires of Invention Bolas was silly fun, back in the day. Fires into a Bolas plus followed up the next turn by a Mastermind's Acquisition into a Planewide Celebration from sideboard, proliferate 4 times, ultimate to win. And all the other possible variations.
The real fun is casting Bolas and Celebration in the same turn for the surprise win. Happens once in a while with my War of the Spark 'Walkers EDH deck.
There is a VERY funny conditional line that makes Vraska, Scheming Gorgon extremely reliable: Playing her as an instant-win condition in Black/Green Counters! Any counter doubling effect puts her natural 5 starting Loyalty up to 10, so you can ult her immediately on play, and in BG you certainly have a trample threat or two available by turn 4-6 (ramp depending).
yup, vorinclex does that iirc. ramp and play him on 4 or 5 and then a planeswalker the next turn ready to ult just satifies the bug stompy monogreen player :D
I saw all the comments mentioning ezio and I really thought it'd be better than it was. That was truly one of the most absurd ways to say his name without purposely trying to butcher it. Bravo man bravo
Commander's Quarters did a decklist once of every card that instantly wins, then got several requests for every card that makes you instantly lose... I now run "lose the game tribal" as one of my favorite decks. Besides the original Lich, for pricing reasons, it's got every card that makes ME lose the game in it... and then ways to get value out of them or use them as convoluted win-cons by getting my opponents to "benefit" from them instead. Fractured Identity (exile target permanent, everyone but it's controller makes a copy) on Phage is an amazing multi-kill, btw.
The b-roll footage of Seth's efforts to use many of these cards while talking about how hard it is to use many of these cards Honestly made this video so much better
I'm surprised Seth didn't bring up Etrata's biggest partner in crime. Well, maybe not cause they're commander only, but I thought it would be relevant enough Mari, the Killing Quill {1}{B}{B} / 3/2 Legendary Creature - Vampire Assassin Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, exile it with a hit counter on it. Assassins, Mercenaries, and Rogues you control have deathtouch and “Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may remove a hit counter from a card that player owns in exile. If you do, draw a card and create two Treasure tokens.” Mari is the only other card in the entire game to mention Hit Counters. And instead of requiring a combat damage step to make just 1 hit counter, with Mari, she puts hit counters on every creature that dies from any source. So instead of attacking multiple times, you just have Mari out and throw out kill spells/board wipes left and right, then finally sneak in one Etrata attack to finish them off. Of course this still requires them to play creatures, but it's not like they're not gonna play none.
I love how Seth has clips ready for like half the cards on the list while simultaneously telling us how hard or impossible it is for each of these cards to activate
With Etrata, you did miss how you can speed it up with Mari, the killing quill and Ravenloft adventurer, both of which exile cards with hit counters. Probably doesn't change the ranking, but is worth a mention.
As a fan of alternate wincons, I've attempted and succeded at most of these, and I can confirm the Deck of Many Things one is near impossible to pull off without infinites or board states that your opponents concede to anyway. My heart broke a bit when Seth opened by saying he wouldn't cover giving your opponents the things and then triggering the clause. It's very funny when you force them to exile their brand new Lich Mastery :) And these "alternate wincons" usually aren't that easy, or efficient to pull off anyway.
Worth noting that we've gotten a handful of cards that deal in hit counters since Etrata's release, so she's become feasible even if you only get in one attack with her.
This doesn't fully match, but my favourite "lose the game trick" is actually one that's supposed to make me lose, but it's comboing The Twelfth Doctor and Phage the Untouchable It's so fucking funny
"Ee-see-oh ah-do-tray dee frih-neez." Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. Sorry, gotta give you a hard time for that one Seth, though it sincerely made me laugh.
I did it once (and once only) in an Arena limited format. The Atemsis was supposed to be the top of the curve beatstick but this one time the clock was shortened. I can still remember the thrill of ecstasy.
I've won a few games of historic brawl in one turn with the elderspell + nicol bolas combo. It's especially sweet when you kill your own or your opponent's Liliana for the flavour win.
As someone whose favorite commander deck is his Uh-Tem-Sis deck, if you build the deck to ramp into strong late game bangers, you kill two birds with one stone by ensuring your hand has weird costs while also giving you a gameplay in the meantime that makes for a great puzzle every game
Its also notable for Etrata that there are two more cards that "exile X your opponents control and place a hit counter on it" in Ravenloft Adventurer and Mari, the Killing Quill, meaning in commander/legacy at least there are much more straightforward paths to victory
My buddy had a Triskaedekaphobia standard deck and I played Triskaedekaphile back in Vow standard when we had Sea Gate Restoration. Good times. Hard card to win with, usually it was off the back of the dimir control plan.
I had a game with my Superfriends deck where I had Vorinclex on the field, played Ugin Spirit Dragon, immediately ulted, drew into both Nicol Bolas God-Pharoah, and Nicol Bolas Dragon-God, proceeded to ult God-Pharoah and then Dragon-God. Very sudden borderline unstoppable win once Ugin resolved.
Please try Insidious roots with moss-pit Skeleton! When the roots puts counters on the plants it creates, the skeleton then sees those counters and goes to the top of your library thus leaving your graveyard for a second trigger. Not infinite but seems like a cool synergy.
Ranking of "You Lose the Game" would be fun. Not even in a "oh, you can use this convoluted strategy to use that effect to your advantage" but just "what if I want to spectacularly lose?".
Not gonna read all the comments to see if anyone said this yet, but Ezio is pronounced like the online store where people sell stuff they made, but with an O on the end. Etsy-O. Love your content Seth!
I’ve had a pretty easy time getting Frodo’s kill off. In my experience people tend to wait until you’ve invested the six and have the four temps to kill him. Make him indestructible to avoid basic removal. Play a “destroy all” board wipe and go in for the kill. Plus if you have a few pie breaking counterspells it’s really easy to make him dodge being exiled. I play him with wraiths and enemies will often use all of their removal on the wraiths before Frodo is a problem and run out of removal by the time he is
On top of Door being easy to trigger it also pairs well in a gate deck with Maze's end. So I find it strange that you say the only reason it is that high is due to improvements in recent years when it is able to be done with an infinite mana engine that can generate any colors during any time since its release.
with vraska, you can proliferate, multiple times per turn, letting you use their ultimate the same turn they are played, which along with playing them in control decks could make it viable (not necessarily efficient or worth it). ima try it
I'd love for Seth to know I've gotten a deck of many things win, in commander, with Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. I forced the table to attack each other through Kardur and chainer, using witches oven and underworld cookbook to generate tons of food. When i had one opponent left i cast deck, hit the 20, and force fed the reanimated creature some food to finish the Elf player off before they could kill me. I had a playmat commissioned to celebrate
One important note about Vraska, Scheming Gorgon: your creature doesn't have to deal combat damage to kill, just *any* damage. A "tap to deal 1 damage" creature works just fine, making her a little better.
I pulled off Atemsis in a game with Unesh as the commander. Unesh's ability can add so many cards to your hand it's super easy to get 6 different mana values
I had Vraska in a Proliferate deck I build that makes unlockable poison counter monsters, and it didn't usually win, but proliferating loyalty counters onto planeswalkers was a real solid strategy to get that x3 (1/1) assassins ability to pop off. And since the deck made everything unblockable, if it ever worked, it always worked, you feel me?
I could see the planeswalker deck vraska work with counter doublers to one-shot a table in a single combat step. Super friends shenanigans and proliferate can also help pump those rookie numbers up. Also, since Doubling Season costs 5, this costing 6 means it's perfect for curving out!
I've consistently had Vraska the unseen in decks since the card came out. I've won with her ultimate once with Xavier Sal. I had intruder alarm and another walker out so I made a bunch of non legendary tokens copies of him and the following turn sacced all of them to each other to proliferate her to ultimate
I pulled a triskaidekaphobia at the shadows over innistrad prerelease two-headed giant event, and my friend and I decided to go for it. We won a game with it and the look on our opponents’ faces was priceless 🤣
I have both a vorpal sword and Vraska The Unseen in my sister's of stone death deck that is based around a ton of ramp and board wipes early to control the board an use her abilities with trample to get through. I have considered adding a Phage as well
(6:05) I love how Triskaidekaphobia is actually #13 on this list. And, I have won with it before. I've also had a draw game happen with it before, when the opponent managed to reduce my life total to exactly 13 while they were at 13 themself, which was hilarious. (15:58) I almost won a game with Vorpal Sword attached to an unblockable Changeling Outcast one time, but the opponent Disenchanted it, so I ended up winning that game the old-fashioned way, by beating them down to zero life points with my Demons.
i gotta say, i like some of these cards and while i didnt play mtga with triskedaikaphobia it sounds not that hard or at least kinda funny to try. But i had some really nice games and wins with the strixhaven Stadium (by PROLIFERATING rather than attacking!) in Standard in MTGA - and a lot less in historic but i could win against some friends. Instawins (or loses) are kinda fun to play and to build around i think =) and thx for the list
I actually run Etrata in a modern deck that I occasionally play when facing family and friends. I’ve only got the lose affect to go off a couple of times, but can’t count all the times her third attack killed the opponent with damage.
I used to play a very effective Etrata deck. It has some creatures to block, 60 cards only, some control spells and 4 etratas on it. What means each 15 card, one was Etrata and the more the game stand, more likely was for me to draw her back.
I used to have a Jeskai control deck that could absolutely kill people with Atemsis on a consistent basis. So much that the playgroup feared it and it was often kill on sight even without much of a hand. It's not a card you should actively shove in decks, but if you just happen to have a lot of card draw and a good MV spread across your deck, it can occasionally be a good inclusion.
One of my favourite moments from drafting the deck of many things is I was dead on board and empty handed, drew the deck of many things, played it and rolled 20 and grabbed my opponents creature to block and not die. For some reason the opponent decided to attack, I blocked with his creature and stole the game.
i want to see seth play an ezio deck ngl. imagine everyone being stressed about game decision while my man sits over there sweating that nobody asks him to say the name of his commander (rakdos food enjoyers know what i'm talking about)
In commander, door to nothingness is the go-to wincon of Ramos, Dragon Engine decks, as Ramos generates a lot of 5-color mana and that's the perfect sink for it.
Ezio and tree of perdition or the Sorin that takes life total to ten seems simple enough. Probably need a whispersilk cloak too. So a 3 card combo, but one card is in the command zone. Seems pretty doable.
I think i have 3 you win/opponent loses cards in my deck. I have Mirrodin Besieged and Helkite Tyrant in there. I think I've got mechanized production in it too. It's a very artifact heavy deck
I've seen a deck of many things being played exactly once, and in that game my opponent managed to roll the 20. He pulled a goldspan dragon from my graveyard, and i, who had not read the card, did cast a removal on said goldspan....
In arena I've won with both Vorpal Sword and Strixhaven Stadium. Treating Strixhaven stadium like a mana rock worked fine for me because people don't think I'm using it as a win condition.
I played a trickadekaphobia and tree of perdition deck in a dimir control shell back in kaledesh standard. Pretty fun, I went 2 and 1 a few times at fnm's.
I have Atemsis in my Unesh deck (probably the worst sphinx in there tbh), and just earlier this year I got my first Atemsis kill, the deck is pretty much a perfect home for it though since I tend to have a massive hand and my curve goes from 0-8.
Easyo Adotray de Freneez. I die laughing every time.
It's Adele Dazeem's long lost brother
Let's not forget about Nicole Bolas, either.
Not to mention everyone's favorite sphinx, "Ate me sis"
Easy-O's, that's a new cereal right there
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Triskaidekaphobia ranked #13...I see what you did there, Seth.
oh shit I actually didn't notice until I saw this comment. Nice catch.
And 6:11 all the stuff on the art counts to 13.
Last time he put Triskaideckaphile at #14 for win cards, so it's fitting that the mistake is now made right
Seth pronouncing Ezio is actually impressively bad lmao.
i CACKLED every single word as wrong as it could possibly be hsvdgdhssh
He also wrecked Firenze 😂 But funny that they didn't translate Ezio's name to English. Think Seth can pronounce Florence 😅
Good ol' easy-o
@@catominhund What exactly do you mean by "translate his name"? Like what are we expecting here, calling him John creed?
"Easyo"*
Hearing SaffronOlive misproununce Ezio that badly has ruined my day
Great video tho
Grow up 🙂
Made my day and it's only getting better.
They say words can't hurt you. Well what Seth did with Ezio was straight up aggravated assault.
I agree completely
So bad setzt straight up got an extra combat step and said it again
You can say he assassinated the hell out of the name
@ich3730
So bad that it made me no longer be able to block warriors
Seth about to get murdered by a bunch of angry Italians for that pronunciation of Ezio's full name
Mamma mia
I could close an ear on Ezio Auditore, but Firenze? Really?
As an Italian, I've heard worse
Im not even Italian, I just like assassins creed, and I am currently sharpening my hidden blade
easiest way to loose the game
Damn it’s crazy that they so seamlessly managed to make Triska’s two abilities have exactly 13 words. It reads so naturally, I never noticed it. Like they wouldn’t have worded it any other way anyways.
That pronunciation of Ezio Auditore da Firenze actually dealt me psychic damage. Seth, this one you can actually learn, it's Italian, a good ol' Earth language instead of being some fantasy language without a language guide.
Yeah, I mean. I already cringed at 8-mesis, but Eesio just got *so* much worse. Brothers-Hood End doesn't seem so bad anymore by comparison.
Careful he is casting a spell in an elder tounge!
Tell that to all of kamigawa
Sorry.
@@MTGGoldfish 'sok, it's part of the Seth charm. Ezio is a beloved character from the franchise though, if you plan to play with him it might save you some headaches (and snarky comments like mine) later on to look up how to say his (and other Assassin's Creed characters) names. Them being in video games does make this pretty easy at least. :D
If Italians get upset when you break spaghetti to cook them in a small pot, I can't imagine what they'll feel when they hear your pronunciation of Ezio
Pain. Just pain.
Ciao. Non esageriamo. È più nauseante che facciate i soliti esempi: spaghetti pasta e gesti con le mani. Ma se vi divertite con poco va bene
7:51. That pronunciation was flawless xD
Nailed it!
I’ve been convinced for ages that Seth deliberately mispronounces stuff to make pedants comment as an engagement juicing tactic for the algorithm. I feel like mangling Ezio that egregiously clinches the theory. Nobody gets it THAT wrong by accident.
to be fair, im almost certain at this point that he has undiagnosed dyslexia
100% has to be engagement bait
My personal theory is that Seth is honestly a bit dyslexic and a bit liberal with pronuntiations, but it ended becoming a running joke plus a boost to engagment so he never tried to fix it, and throws a random misspronunciation on a funny or known name like Ezio just for giggles xD
This is probably the closest to the truth, really.@@SilverAlex92
Shoehorned joke:
What did Yugi's alter ego do to the sandwiches he made?
He Atem.
(ngl, I got a little bit triggered by your pronunciation of "AH-TEM-SIS" but I quickly took a deep breath, laughed, and got over it)
SaffronOlive love you man long time watcher but the way you said Ezio name hurt my soul
I apologize to your soul :)
We all know that there is only one proper way to win Magic, if you are playing properly. And that is obviously by using The Cheese Stands Alone.
I built a first turn win deck with Cheese Stands Alone. Of course u couldnt play it in regular play because of different reasons reasons, but it was a cool deck to show people.
I got a Deck of Many Things win, reanimating an exploit zombie when I was definitely going to lose next turn. One of the more memorable wins I've had.
But how? Exploit is a "may" ability
You get the reanimated creature but its owner loses when it dies.
@@Shimatzu95 Oh I see. Maybe I should have re-read The Deck of Many Things before commenting 😅
The Deck of Many Things win is still on my bucked list. That sounds amazing!
@@MTGGoldfish love the things on my bucked list
honorable mention, original play test version of time walk for number 0
Oh my god I remember hearing about this XD
IIRC it read, "Target player loses next turn."
The Ezio pronuntiation slapped me right in the face
Historic Fires of Invention Bolas was silly fun, back in the day. Fires into a Bolas plus followed up the next turn by a Mastermind's Acquisition into a Planewide Celebration from sideboard, proliferate 4 times, ultimate to win. And all the other possible variations.
The real fun is casting Bolas and Celebration in the same turn for the surprise win. Happens once in a while with my War of the Spark 'Walkers EDH deck.
There is a VERY funny conditional line that makes Vraska, Scheming Gorgon extremely reliable: Playing her as an instant-win condition in Black/Green Counters! Any counter doubling effect puts her natural 5 starting Loyalty up to 10, so you can ult her immediately on play, and in BG you certainly have a trample threat or two available by turn 4-6 (ramp depending).
yup, vorinclex does that iirc. ramp and play him on 4 or 5 and then a planeswalker the next turn ready to ult just satifies the bug stompy monogreen player :D
:o doubling season breaks planeswalkers!?!?!?!
Thanks for your videos - as always.
It was only a few hours after watching this I lost to an opponent casting their second Approach of the Second Sun.
that Ezio pronunciation hurt me so much and I'm not even italian
I saw all the comments mentioning ezio and I really thought it'd be better than it was.
That was truly one of the most absurd ways to say his name without purposely trying to butcher it.
Bravo man bravo
Commander's Quarters did a decklist once of every card that instantly wins, then got several requests for every card that makes you instantly lose... I now run "lose the game tribal" as one of my favorite decks. Besides the original Lich, for pricing reasons, it's got every card that makes ME lose the game in it... and then ways to get value out of them or use them as convoluted win-cons by getting my opponents to "benefit" from them instead.
Fractured Identity (exile target permanent, everyone but it's controller makes a copy) on Phage is an amazing multi-kill, btw.
The b-roll footage of Seth's efforts to use many of these cards while talking about how hard it is to use many of these cards Honestly made this video so much better
Just saw the ragavan dartboard in the background. Well played, sir.
I'm surprised Seth didn't bring up Etrata's biggest partner in crime. Well, maybe not cause they're commander only, but I thought it would be relevant enough
Mari, the Killing Quill
{1}{B}{B} / 3/2
Legendary Creature - Vampire Assassin
Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, exile it with a hit counter on it.
Assassins, Mercenaries, and Rogues you control have deathtouch and “Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may remove a hit counter from a card that player owns in exile. If you do, draw a card and create two Treasure tokens.”
Mari is the only other card in the entire game to mention Hit Counters. And instead of requiring a combat damage step to make just 1 hit counter, with Mari, she puts hit counters on every creature that dies from any source. So instead of attacking multiple times, you just have Mari out and throw out kill spells/board wipes left and right, then finally sneak in one Etrata attack to finish them off. Of course this still requires them to play creatures, but it's not like they're not gonna play none.
Ravenloft Adventurer as well, which is the same deal as Mari except its a replacement effect so your opponent's creatures never hit the graveyard
Man, that Ezio pronunciation in Seth’s already glaring voice…
I refuse to believe that pronunciation of Ezio was on accident, that was incredible 😂
I love how Seth has clips ready for like half the cards on the list while simultaneously telling us how hard or impossible it is for each of these cards to activate
With Etrata, you did miss how you can speed it up with Mari, the killing quill and Ravenloft adventurer, both of which exile cards with hit counters.
Probably doesn't change the ranking, but is worth a mention.
Yeah, that's a good call, key to Etrata Commander kills for sure.
Or maskwood Nexis/similar effects and Rames the assassin lord probably helps
Just lost the game. Thanks a lot.
My bad ;)
As a fan of alternate wincons, I've attempted and succeded at most of these, and I can confirm the Deck of Many Things one is near impossible to pull off without infinites or board states that your opponents concede to anyway.
My heart broke a bit when Seth opened by saying he wouldn't cover giving your opponents the things and then triggering the clause. It's very funny when you force them to exile their brand new Lich Mastery :) And these "alternate wincons" usually aren't that easy, or efficient to pull off anyway.
Next you should rank all you lose the game cards based off of how hard or easily you can make yourself lose the game.
Worth noting that we've gotten a handful of cards that deal in hit counters since Etrata's release, so she's become feasible even if you only get in one attack with her.
I've killed so many people with Atemsis in my "Leave me alone; I just wanna draw cards," EDH deck.
3:58 HE SAID THE THING!!!!
My Phage commander deck is one of my favourite decks. Love it sm
I'm digging that blood moon tele you have in the background Seth. \m/
This doesn't fully match, but my favourite "lose the game trick" is actually one that's supposed to make me lose, but it's comboing The Twelfth Doctor and Phage the Untouchable
It's so fucking funny
I clicked hoping this was a ranking of "YOU lose the game" cards. I look forward to that.
"Ee-see-oh ah-do-tray dee frih-neez."
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.
Sorry, gotta give you a hard time for that one Seth, though it sincerely made me laugh.
16:54 "Those win trigger at your upkeep" Says Seth showing us an Angel of destiny triggering on our endstep
While there's no way you're reasonably winning with Atemsis in 60-card, it is a blast to reveal a straight flush in Commander.
I did it once (and once only) in an Arena limited format. The Atemsis was supposed to be the top of the curve beatstick but this one time the clock was shortened. I can still remember the thrill of ecstasy.
I lost to my own Triskaidekaphobia at the Shadows Prerelease
I've won a few games of historic brawl in one turn with the elderspell + nicol bolas combo. It's especially sweet when you kill your own or your opponent's Liliana for the flavour win.
As someone whose favorite commander deck is his Uh-Tem-Sis deck, if you build the deck to ramp into strong late game bangers, you kill two birds with one stone by ensuring your hand has weird costs while also giving you a gameplay in the meantime that makes for a great puzzle every game
Its also notable for Etrata that there are two more cards that "exile X your opponents control and place a hit counter on it" in Ravenloft Adventurer and Mari, the Killing Quill, meaning in commander/legacy at least there are much more straightforward paths to victory
Phage my beloved, I remember pulling her twice back in the day. Her name and art makes her my favorite!
Opponent: let's their guard down around Ezio.
Me: reanimate a Magister Sphinx
Gotten a few Door wins with an Urtet deck recently. Chromatic orrery, clock of omens and doubling cube assures if it enters you can hit it
bonus points for putting Triskaidekaphobia at #13! :D
Honestly I had it at 14 when I first made the list and figured it was worth finagling things to get it at 13.
@@MTGGoldfish and bonus points for the pronunciation... Flawless!
My buddy had a Triskaedekaphobia standard deck and I played Triskaedekaphile back in Vow standard when we had Sea Gate Restoration. Good times. Hard card to win with, usually it was off the back of the dimir control plan.
I had a game with my Superfriends deck where I had Vorinclex on the field, played Ugin Spirit Dragon, immediately ulted, drew into both Nicol Bolas God-Pharoah, and Nicol Bolas Dragon-God, proceeded to ult God-Pharoah and then Dragon-God. Very sudden borderline unstoppable win once Ugin resolved.
Big fan of EEEEEEEEzio, never change Seth
I don't need a single card to lose the game, I can do it pretty well on my own.
Please try Insidious roots with moss-pit Skeleton! When the roots puts counters on the plants it creates, the skeleton then sees those counters and goes to the top of your library thus leaving your graveyard for a second trigger. Not infinite but seems like a cool synergy.
I’ve won more commander games with Nicol Bolas, dragon God than I can count :)
Yeah, it's definitely one of the strongest "lose the game" cards, especially if you build around it.
Ranking of "You Lose the Game" would be fun. Not even in a "oh, you can use this convoluted strategy to use that effect to your advantage" but just "what if I want to spectacularly lose?".
Not gonna read all the comments to see if anyone said this yet, but Ezio is pronounced like the online store where people sell stuff they made, but with an O on the end. Etsy-O. Love your content Seth!
"Ate muh sis" yup, that's how that's pronounced
I’ve had a pretty easy time getting Frodo’s kill off. In my experience people tend to wait until you’ve invested the six and have the four temps to kill him. Make him indestructible to avoid basic removal. Play a “destroy all” board wipe and go in for the kill. Plus if you have a few pie breaking counterspells it’s really easy to make him dodge being exiled. I play him with wraiths and enemies will often use all of their removal on the wraiths before Frodo is a problem and run out of removal by the time he is
Listening Seth pronouncing Ezio auditore da Firenze is worth the whole video 😂😂
I have an atemsis edh deck. When it goes off it goes off. But it's also kinda easy to shut down if I don't have counters.
That cut during 15 was very funny.
On top of Door being easy to trigger it also pairs well in a gate deck with Maze's end. So I find it strange that you say the only reason it is that high is due to improvements in recent years when it is able to be done with an infinite mana engine that can generate any colors during any time since its release.
with vraska, you can proliferate, multiple times per turn, letting you use their ultimate the same turn they are played, which along with playing them in control decks could make it viable (not necessarily efficient or worth it). ima try it
I'd love for Seth to know I've gotten a deck of many things win, in commander, with Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. I forced the table to attack each other through Kardur and chainer, using witches oven and underworld cookbook to generate tons of food. When i had one opponent left i cast deck, hit the 20, and force fed the reanimated creature some food to finish the Elf player off before they could kill me. I had a playmat commissioned to celebrate
Ah, Vraska the Unseen. Only planeswalker I have ever pulled! It was a $30-40 dollar card then, too! Was great trade fodder!
One important note about Vraska, Scheming Gorgon: your creature doesn't have to deal combat damage to kill, just *any* damage. A "tap to deal 1 damage" creature works just fine, making her a little better.
I pulled off Atemsis in a game with Unesh as the commander. Unesh's ability can add so many cards to your hand it's super easy to get 6 different mana values
I had Vraska in a Proliferate deck I build that makes unlockable poison counter monsters, and it didn't usually win, but proliferating loyalty counters onto planeswalkers was a real solid strategy to get that x3 (1/1) assassins ability to pop off. And since the deck made everything unblockable, if it ever worked, it always worked, you feel me?
bro i wasnt prepared for your hillarious butchering of ezio auditore. as a european (german) this is funnier for me than it probably should be :D
For future reference, it's pronounced like, "Et-see-oh Ah-dih-tor-ay Dah Fear-en-zey".
I could see the planeswalker deck vraska work with counter doublers to one-shot a table in a single combat step. Super friends shenanigans and proliferate can also help pump those rookie numbers up. Also, since Doubling Season costs 5, this costing 6 means it's perfect for curving out!
I've consistently had Vraska the unseen in decks since the card came out. I've won with her ultimate once with Xavier Sal. I had intruder alarm and another walker out so I made a bunch of non legendary tokens copies of him and the following turn sacced all of them to each other to proliferate her to ultimate
I pulled a triskaidekaphobia at the shadows over innistrad prerelease two-headed giant event, and my friend and I decided to go for it. We won a game with it and the look on our opponents’ faces was priceless 🤣
I have both a vorpal sword and Vraska The Unseen in my sister's of stone death deck that is based around a ton of ramp and board wipes early to control the board an use her abilities with trample to get through. I have considered adding a Phage as well
(6:05) I love how Triskaidekaphobia is actually #13 on this list. And, I have won with it before. I've also had a draw game happen with it before, when the opponent managed to reduce my life total to exactly 13 while they were at 13 themself, which was hilarious.
(15:58) I almost won a game with Vorpal Sword attached to an unblockable Changeling Outcast one time, but the opponent Disenchanted it, so I ended up winning that game the old-fashioned way, by beating them down to zero life points with my Demons.
Isio Audotre di Franis killed me, but not in the way the card meant to.
i gotta say, i like some of these cards and while i didnt play mtga with triskedaikaphobia it sounds not that hard or at least kinda funny to try.
But i had some really nice games and wins with the strixhaven Stadium (by PROLIFERATING rather than attacking!) in Standard in MTGA - and a lot less in historic but i could win against some friends. Instawins (or loses) are kinda fun to play and to build around i think =)
and thx for the list
I actually run Etrata in a modern deck that I occasionally play when facing family and friends. I’ve only got the lose affect to go off a couple of times, but can’t count all the times her third attack killed the opponent with damage.
I used to play a very effective Etrata deck. It has some creatures to block, 60 cards only, some control spells and 4 etratas on it. What means each 15 card, one was Etrata and the more the game stand, more likely was for me to draw her back.
Bro assassinated Ezio so fast the Pope's head started spinning.
Thank you for your service Saffron Olive!🕊️
I have 3 decks, currently building a 4th, that revolve around either forcing an opponent to lose and/or making it so I can't lose.
That Telecaster with blood moon art on it goes soooo hard.
Harmless Coil was my favorite deck I ever built and played at a modern tournament.
I love nothing more than hearing Seth say, “Vuh-roska, Gol-Gary Queen”
I used to have a Jeskai control deck that could absolutely kill people with Atemsis on a consistent basis. So much that the playgroup feared it and it was often kill on sight even without much of a hand. It's not a card you should actively shove in decks, but if you just happen to have a lot of card draw and a good MV spread across your deck, it can occasionally be a good inclusion.
Atemsis is actually really fun to build around in edh.
Built it for a friend and it was really enjoyable to playtest
The Vraska assassins are also prime for the various unblockable artifacts that usually require a low power to work.
One of my favourite moments from drafting the deck of many things is I was dead on board and empty handed, drew the deck of many things, played it and rolled 20 and grabbed my opponents creature to block and not die. For some reason the opponent decided to attack, I blocked with his creature and stole the game.
i want to see seth play an ezio deck ngl. imagine everyone being stressed about game decision while my man sits over there sweating that nobody asks him to say the name of his commander (rakdos food enjoyers know what i'm talking about)
In commander, door to nothingness is the go-to wincon of Ramos, Dragon Engine decks, as Ramos generates a lot of 5-color mana and that's the perfect sink for it.
Ezio and tree of perdition or the Sorin that takes life total to ten seems simple enough. Probably need a whispersilk cloak too. So a 3 card combo, but one card is in the command zone. Seems pretty doable.
I think i have 3 you win/opponent loses cards in my deck. I have Mirrodin Besieged and Helkite Tyrant in there. I think I've got mechanized production in it too. It's a very artifact heavy deck
I've seen a deck of many things being played exactly once, and in that game my opponent managed to roll the 20. He pulled a goldspan dragon from my graveyard, and i, who had not read the card, did cast a removal on said goldspan....
as an italian, i'm absolutely HOWLING at Seth pronouncing Ezio Auditore da Firenze like that lmao will NEVER not pronounce it like that from now on
In arena I've won with both Vorpal Sword and Strixhaven Stadium. Treating Strixhaven stadium like a mana rock worked fine for me because people don't think I'm using it as a win condition.
I played a trickadekaphobia and tree of perdition deck in a dimir control shell back in kaledesh standard. Pretty fun, I went 2 and 1 a few times at fnm's.
I have Atemsis in my Unesh deck (probably the worst sphinx in there tbh), and just earlier this year I got my first Atemsis kill, the deck is pretty much a perfect home for it though since I tend to have a massive hand and my curve goes from 0-8.