Great video !! I was talking with a student the other day and I got to the conclusion: When was classical music ever main stream? For sure though classical music will and should change, especially academic wise...
@@hendrx Pretty sure folksy and later pop songs have always been more popular in any era and in any region of the world. Who could listen to Beethoven before the grammophone became widespread? Upper classes only.
Unfortunately it's almost dead considering the fact that even many concert musicians have no idea what classical music is all about. Especially classical guitarists. In terms of proportions of those who listen to it... nah... I think percentage is the same.
"What is it ever mainstream?" Great question, and I believe the anwer is simply "no". Today, classical music is more alive than ever in absolute numbers (hah, the video mentions this as I am typing). Admittedly a lot of it is pretty old (enduring!).
It hasn't represented a living tradition, though. Much as we admire the music of the common practice period, we approach it with the same appreciation that we approach a museum exhibit. And certainly no one will _compose_ in a straight Classical or Romantic style without a distinct sense of historical awareness and understanding that one is essentially writing in a dead language. On an intuitive level we understand that it's stilted and _false_ to write new music in the 21st century as if the intervening three centuries hadn't left a trace on us, the same way that it would be cheesy and affected to write poetry in the style of Lord Byron in 2023.
Its not dead at all. However like EVERYTHING that requires time, patience, and the development of an actual skill, this will deter alot of the new generations. However its not restriced to just classical music.
I still like it quite a lot.. i mean, all things considered . A large amount of the classical music and the composers we're all used to listening to comes from white men of status. I think a lot of us have the impression that these guys were the only composers there were. I'm guessing that there must have been a huge number of composers whose music and names most of the world has never heard of. I'm saying this because of the example of classical guitar music. It's my understanding that it's a time that the guitar was popular it wasn't held especially high regard especially is an orchestral instrumental obviously. It was mainly played at home and played by women and I have to imagine that there is a massive amount of music that was written by these women and they were probably also Master guitarists. Have you ever really tried to search for female composers? For guitar? There's a dozen that I could find and not a whole lot of manuscript to be had. How about black composers? I've done some research and found a couple mentioned but you still can't find recordings of their music. Personal I get so sick of our college radio station which is the only classical music program to listen to in my state and week after week day after day hour after hour I'm hearing the same composers the same music over . Who wouldn't be sweet if there is a radio program to just play classical b-sides LOL. It feels like there's more variety in classical guitar at least. But for someone that's truly an expert in guitar I imagine they've seen it all and heard it all.. as for a strict form of classical music as it was I don't think we're going to see people writing music in that way again. Lot of people that read this might think this is an awful comparison but don't like punk rock you know what I mean. I grew up with that and I love it but I don't think that's going to have a comeback you know. I don't think that's a bad thing really. There is so much good music out in the world it's fresh and new and always going to be that way as long as there's people. But you know classical was a period. Like the dot. Finé.
The reason why more people are listening to classical music is because there are more people on planet. If hundred years ago absolutely everyone (100% world population) was listening to classical music and today the same amount of people would be listening to classical music it would be only about 20% of world population.
True. And 100 years ago most people hardly had access to (classical) music. If it wasn't dead then, then it's not dead today. I'd like someone claiming that classical music is dead to explain to me when it was alive.
*There is only music* . What is classical music? The music from the Classical Period? If not, the question makes no sense. There are only music styles within music. Even jazz fits perfectly in the actual music theory, the latter having a very general range. The same for Indian classical music, carnatic music and so on. The separation of jazz and the so called classical is entirely due to a wrong organisation of music teaching and mutual misunderstanding. The time that 'classical music' was part of European culture is long gone. It has become a discipline covering the entire world.
Great point. I believe that much ofthe problem with Western European Music has to do with the avant garde movements in the 20th century. Composers chose to be difficult on audiences rather than to communicate with them. In a very real sense they made themselves "Obsolete."
No dude I range from doom metal and Heilung to Big L and Shad with some Tiesto, Big thief, cat empire and alot of Django, safe to say in listen to classical regularly. 3 -4 times a week.
You don’t ask this question if some one is jumping, laughing, eating, fuc.ing. Only Some thing is not moving , not changing, not reproducing, you ask, are you ….?
It's a question producing question. How does every single person not immediately respond back with, "what is meant by classical music and dead?" Vaguest question ever. You know, "Which era?" "Which instruments?" "Which country" "Vocals? No vocals?" "What is meant by dead?" I could go on all day lol
Just depends on where you are. In some parts of the Western world, classical music is not popular at all. Especially where pop culture dominates. These days it gets more support in the East than in the West. Pop music is not easy to follow if you are not used to it. It uses different flows of harmony and melody. But young people, even the kids, take them easily.
To paraphrase, Nietzsche Classical Music is Dead, and we killed it. It died the second they made rules on when you are supposed to clap. This is the only style of music with rules on what the audience should do. This isn't even a tradition; once it was, people started to stop caring. What about Beethoven's 9th symphony laser light show brought to you by Cores Lite.
Great video !! I was talking with a student the other day and I got to the conclusion: When was classical music ever main stream? For sure though classical music will and should change, especially academic wise...
It was obviously mainstream at its peak
@@hendrx Pretty sure folksy and later pop songs have always been more popular in any era and in any region of the world. Who could listen to Beethoven before the grammophone became widespread? Upper classes only.
Unfortunately it's almost dead considering the fact that even many concert musicians have no idea what classical music is all about. Especially classical guitarists. In terms of proportions of those who listen to it... nah... I think percentage is the same.
1:08: That’s always how I felt about classical music vs everything else.
Great things never die.
Amen
"What is it ever mainstream?" Great question, and I believe the anwer is simply "no". Today, classical music is more alive than ever in absolute numbers (hah, the video mentions this as I am typing). Admittedly a lot of it is pretty old (enduring!).
Of course it's not, because I like it! 😀
The Mozart and Beethoven music is not dead...sadly is dead the music of young and contemporary composers
It hasn't represented a living tradition, though. Much as we admire the music of the common practice period, we approach it with the same appreciation that we approach a museum exhibit. And certainly no one will _compose_ in a straight Classical or Romantic style without a distinct sense of historical awareness and understanding that one is essentially writing in a dead language. On an intuitive level we understand that it's stilted and _false_ to write new music in the 21st century as if the intervening three centuries hadn't left a trace on us, the same way that it would be cheesy and affected to write poetry in the style of Lord Byron in 2023.
@@janosmarothy5409you are musician?
Still play it after 36 years. Go figure. It didn't died on me.
Its not dead at all. However like EVERYTHING that requires time, patience, and the development of an actual skill, this will deter alot of the new generations. However its not restriced to just classical music.
Nah it's just boring to listen to and stuffy lame
I think it deters people if they are TOLD to take the time and patience to hear it. Depending on the piece, it should grab you when it starts.
I still like it quite a lot.. i mean, all things considered . A large amount of the classical music and the composers we're all used to listening to comes from white men of status. I think a lot of us have the impression that these guys were the only composers there were. I'm guessing that there must have been a huge number of composers whose music and names most of the world has never heard of. I'm saying this because of the example of classical guitar music. It's my understanding that it's a time that the guitar was popular it wasn't held especially high regard especially is an orchestral instrumental obviously. It was mainly played at home and played by women and I have to imagine that there is a massive amount of music that was written by these women and they were probably also Master guitarists. Have you ever really tried to search for female composers? For guitar? There's a dozen that I could find and not a whole lot of manuscript to be had. How about black composers? I've done some research and found a couple mentioned but you still can't find recordings of their music. Personal I get so sick of our college radio station which is the only classical music program to listen to in my state and week after week day after day hour after hour I'm hearing the same composers the same music over . Who wouldn't be sweet if there is a radio program to just play classical b-sides LOL. It feels like there's more variety in classical guitar at least. But for someone that's truly an expert in guitar I imagine they've seen it all and heard it all.. as for a strict form of classical music as it was I don't think we're going to see people writing music in that way again. Lot of people that read this might think this is an awful comparison but don't like punk rock you know what I mean. I grew up with that and I love it but I don't think that's going to have a comeback you know. I don't think that's a bad thing really. There is so much good music out in the world it's fresh and new and always going to be that way as long as there's people. But you know classical was a period. Like the dot. Finé.
The reason why more people are listening to classical music is because there are more people on planet. If hundred years ago absolutely everyone (100% world population) was listening to classical music and today the same amount of people would be listening to classical music it would be only about 20% of world population.
True. And 100 years ago most people hardly had access to (classical) music. If it wasn't dead then, then it's not dead today. I'd like someone claiming that classical music is dead to explain to me when it was alive.
*There is only music* . What is classical music? The music from the Classical Period? If not, the question makes no sense. There are only music styles within music. Even jazz fits perfectly in the actual music theory, the latter having a very general range. The same for Indian classical music, carnatic music and so on. The separation of jazz and the so called classical is entirely due to a wrong organisation of music teaching and mutual misunderstanding. The time that 'classical music' was part of European culture is long gone. It has become a discipline covering the entire world.
Great point. I believe that much ofthe problem with Western European Music has to do with the avant garde movements in the 20th century. Composers chose to be difficult on audiences rather than to communicate with them. In a very real sense they made themselves "Obsolete."
It's not post-1940 pop music and it's 10,000 subgenres
No dude I range from doom metal and Heilung to Big L and Shad with some Tiesto, Big thief, cat empire and alot of Django, safe to say in listen to classical regularly. 3 -4 times a week.
Classical music, means a study or a mastery of your instrument.
No. Next video.
It`s not! The guitar culture enriches life!
You don’t ask this question if some one is jumping, laughing, eating, fuc.ing. Only Some thing is not moving , not changing, not reproducing, you ask, are you ….?
It's a question producing question. How does every single person not immediately respond back with, "what is meant by classical music and dead?" Vaguest question ever. You know, "Which era?" "Which instruments?" "Which country" "Vocals? No vocals?" "What is meant by dead?" I could go on all day lol
How can it be? I just wrote some. And posted it to my channel. Heh heh.
Just depends on where you are. In some parts of the Western world, classical music is not popular at all. Especially where pop culture dominates. These days it gets more support in the East than in the West. Pop music is not easy to follow if you are not used to it. It uses different flows of harmony and melody. But young people, even the kids, take them easily.
That's only the USA. In Europe classical music is very prominent in their culture there.
@@yashbspianoandcompositions1042 That's why I said in "some parts" of the Western world. Not just the USA by the way, Australia, Canada, NZ too.
But there is no need for classical music to dominate.
@@ronald3836 Irrelevant comment. No one talk about cultural domination.
@@johnlay3040 you did.
Classical music is very long form which may well detract from its popularity.
Classical music isn't dead, it just smells funny.
To paraphrase, Nietzsche Classical Music is Dead, and we killed it. It died the second they made rules on when you are supposed to clap. This is the only style of music with rules on what the audience should do. This isn't even a tradition; once it was, people started to stop caring. What about Beethoven's 9th symphony laser light show brought to you by Cores Lite.
No
No It Isn't
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If classical music is dead I am pathologist.
Nope, not dead, like it play it, write it.
no it's not.
Yup dead. Like saying Latin ain't dead cuz some thousand people can speak it.
put away the governments funding, then you know soon...