I've watched so many reviews on this bike and this is by far the most honest and accurate. Thank you. I've just purchased mine in Arctic Blue just over a week ago. I traded my Triumph Tiger 850 Sport in against it and I can't believe how different the 2 bikes are. The Voge DS900X has some quirks that's been covered well in this video. I believe the low down engine worries are caused by the throttle response and is apparently fixed in the firmware updates (along with the unpredictable fuel gauge). This may also ease as the engine is run in. There are some silly things that could be easily fixed. The keyless ignition is a little pointless when the fuel tank isn't keyless. You have to pull the key out of the fob which isn't so easy when you're tired and cold (guaranteed to drop the fob at some point). There is only one remote for it - a 2nd key is provided but at the moment no-one can say what to do if you lose the key fob or the battery dies in it. The bike doesn't have a fuel range and only one trip meter, these are niggles and hopefully will be updated in firmware updates - fingers crossed 🤞🤞. That being said, there is no escaping the fact that this has to be one of the best value motorcycles on the market when you take into account the extra's that come as standard. Even radiator guards come with this bike. For the Chinese haters, you need to get off your high horse. So many bikes and their components are now made in China that there is little to argue when it comes to quality. We had the same culture when Japanese bikes flooded the market in the 60's and look where we are now. Seriously, at £9,200 it's a no brainer!
I was quoted 850 PLN or 162 GBP for a spare plastic fob ready to use if you lose the original. I have found my fuel guage reasonably accurate and I know the bike can do 250km with my riding style in winter at sub 10C. I generally fuel at 200 to 220km and fit 14 litres in the tank on average on the 4.3 version HMI. MotechRevolution? channel on YT talks about many aspects of the Voge 900 including the fob and key and the CR2032 3V battery that the fob uses. ruclips.net/video/3jR9XQnaigg/видео.htmlsi=nemkBl0JgQzzc_pW Love my Voge.
I have a Voge 300 Rallye, Have multiple sport bikes RSV4 factory,MT10 Blah Blah Blah,But The Most honest one i own is the Voge,Will be buying one of these in the new year.
Stunning bike regardless and for the money it's a huge WOW and a wonderful way into a quality ride that has all a rider could ever desire if they want the modern toys and frills - seriously you could ride this bike forever and be happy. In answer though, it's a hard NO, BMW buyers won't transfer to Voge in a million years - both BM and Voge know this, they have a great symbiotic relationship and it's refreshing to see the bike world changing in front of our eyes
I'm not an adventure bike kind of bloke but this one is spectacular value. Triumph and BMW' are very pricey and for those of us who don't want to take out a second mortgage to buy a bike will find this much more palatable. Those 20 zones really are an affront to your senses.
If you're not really bothered about the snobs who look down on non european or non Japanese bikes, I think this should do really well. Although, to be fair, china has earned their bad reputation.
Kate. Good honest review as usual. Seems like a cracking bike for the money. Makes a Bee em look a bit sick for all the money they cost. By the way you are far from incompetent in any shape or form. A great motorcyclist who presents some super vlogs. Keep at it coz thousands of us are pleased you do.
Really appreciate the seat height/parking demonstration Kate! Would love to see that in yours and other's reviews. Constantly use your videos as a reference (we're about the same height), and usually fast scroll to if you've included the mounting/stopping in traffic part. Still a newbie myself, so the seat height still matters some. Hope it'll be something you'll include in future videos, hope more reviewers catch on. Wish you all the best, ride safe!
Certainly something to give a lot of manufacturers sleepless nights 🤔. For me though a bit on the heavy side 😞. In fact, as from yesterday I became the proud owner of Voge DS525X! I've been up to the Yorkshire dales today, Settle,Hawes, Tan Hill Inn and back home via Devils Bridge, the bike seems exelent 🤞, just as you found on the 900, a bit lumpy at low revs/speed but for 6k I can live with that. In all, an exelent piece of kit 👍🏍.
Its funny because I didn't experience anything but a super smooth ride on the DS525X, but on this, it's throttle is noticeable but manageable. strange!
I am considering this bike , I'm 99% sold on the idea. Like you I have a 29 inseam, when I tried it in showroom it was way too high but I think with low seat & lowering kit it may well be right for me, I am 73 years old & just sold my 1200gsa. Thought it was time to downsize.
Great review Kate I have owned and reviewed this bike in Spain for nearly 8 months. It's bullet proof. The engine is a sweet unit it's the same engine and down tuned Purely to get A2 certification. There is no reason the ECU cannot be flashed to match the F900GSA. Don't run any bike on E10 it states on the tank E5. Also throttle mod on my channel takes 5 minutes. Irons out the jerkiness. But E5 98 octane is the way to go, it flies ✌️
@MotoSwitzerland when I can I will put 98 octane in. But she runs fine on 95. The bike has tons of power on 95, but 2 up with full luggage with 98 and in sports mode it's a beast. The bike has come a long way with updates. Early adopters had no option to change mode on the fly, and on the original engine map the engine ran hot and was nowhere near as refined as now. Kate's review was great but she forgot to mention some key safety features. Emergency braking or hard braking, rear hazards and rear brake light flash. Traffic getting too near rear hazards lights flash. Turning left or right fog lamp on that side also illuminates for better turning visibility. Some amazing tech in the bike
@@motechRevolution Alright, thank you for the answer!😊 That helps a lot. By now i probably now all there is by heart about this bike (without owning one yet). Including 4.4 update procedure, throttle hack etc. Your videos help a lot!🤝🏻
@@motechRevolution I hadn't watched any reviews before getting on it (just wanted tp get my views across uninfluenced if that makes sense) and since riding on my own, I couldn't see what the lights were doing when someone got close :) also, riding this back in the dark on the motorway (after filming) I did notice the spotlight coming on when indicating. I didn't personally like it as I feel it'll be quite distracting for a driver seeing it light up in their mirror (just because it's so bright! haha) but if you have the spots on all the time, it doesn't do the single spot illumination which I prefer. First tank was e10 (didn't see the e5 on the tank first time and I wasn't told before taking it), second tank when I filled up at the end of this vlog was E5 but I honestly didn't notice any performance differences/ or how it felt. Can't comment on if it got better mpg as I dropped it off before needing to fill up again. Awesome you have a throttle mod!! Need to get it done on this one then take it back out! Be cool to see the difference :) Thanks Motech Revoluton!
@UsernameKate hey Kate, a big thumbs up for your video, I am a big fan. Not trying to butt in on your excellent review. The video cam records constantly once a SD card is inserted. The button on the right takes instant pics in case of an event. I really enjoyed your round trip of N Wales. I lived in Abergele for many years. Born in Warrington, studied in Salford. You nailed it. Ride safe if you are ever in Spain we have accommodation and I'll show you some stunning routes. ✌️
Very-interesting , never looked-at a review of a large-capacity Chinese-bike before . You can't beat the price and if it stands the-test-of-time it's a win-win . Dave nz
It sounds like a bike that could put the cat among the pigeons doesn't it. Great looker, high quality components, throwing the full accessory catalogue at it as standard. Could be a winner 👍
Bloody awesome review Kate. Good to hear your honest pros and cons. A bit scary for Triumph, BMW etc. I bought my 2024 Tiger 900 Rally Pro in June which I love but it cost me £16k ! And this bikes comes fully loaded for under £10k !! That is mental.
Seems to be a serious, capable bike, that also seems to be well put together with quality suspension and brakes. It is obviously also well thought through design wise to look appealing. You are in your right element when reviewing bikes. Nice listening to you, and your experience from many different bikes really shines through 😊.
I still adore you and your videos Kate! 😍 If my car is a bit lumpy pottering along in second gear, between 16-20 mph, I don't presume a fueling issue, I just pop it into first gear and the problem magically disappears! 😘
@UsernameKate As the pilot in control Kate, you are surely correct about that! 👍 Given it's a 900, I would be interested to see how well it potters along at 16-20mph, in first gear?
No, you're not late with this Voge, as I always wait for your reviews before watching one elsewhere. I like the gold rims with this colour choice (unusual for me), the grip guards and tempomat, plus the tidy cockpit. The bike actually looks good overall, especially looking at it face on, but it doesn't really stand out against the many others in this catogory (except the KTMs). The biggest draw is (well for me) the price and all you get for it. I do wonder though how it will hold it's price as a used bike, and how good the overall finish and workmanship on it is. Having said all that, i'm not really into this catagory, although I do enjoy the occasional ride on an adventure tourer, so you've done enough to make me ask myself....., where is my next Voge dealership?
I've been trying to imagine myself as a younger, adventure-bike type of guy who wants one bike to ride down to Spain and/or North Africa and enjoy a great on-road and off-road experience. The Voge costs £9k. It's got a lot of kit but it weighs 238kgs. By the time you've added all your panniers and gear you'll be dealing with a leviathan which will be no fun off-road. At the moment Honda dealers are offering £8.8k deals on the 2024 750 Transalp because a slightly updated 2025 version is on the way. This bike weighs just 208kg - that's 30kgs lighter than the Voge. That makes a big difference off-road. Despite conceding 140 cc power is very similar and the badge (and thus residual value) has a lot more credibility. The only genuinely useful thing you're losing is cruise control, but I'd make this sacrifice for the sake of all the other benefits.
@richardhretczak536 That's a good shout. My only apprehension would be how comfy is it for the long road journeys south and how easy would it be to source spares for it in North Africa?
None of the modern "adventure" bikes are lightweight. Just way too heavy. There are opti9ns like the Tenere 700, Tuareg 660, Transalp as you mentioned, and the new Kove 800x. Also the CF moto 450 MT or the Him 450. Quite a few optio s out there
@@Whatreally123 In one way I agree with you. I'm a dinosaur who believes in road bikes for the road and enduros for the dirt. But the thing is I wouldn't go more than 30 miles on the road on my DRZ. So Spain would be out of the question unless I took it there in a van. If you want just one bike to ride south and enjoy on/off road adventure it's going to weigh at least 180-190 kgs. If it doesn't it'll be too uncomfortable on the highway. The Transalp looks comfy and civilised so I'd live with its 208 kg. Compared to my RT (279 kgs) it would feel like a moped!
I took a gamble with the CF Moto 3yrs with the 650 MT. And I love it . I've done over 13,000 miles touring Ireland Scotland & Wales. And she's never let me down No issues whatsoever. I took the first test ride of the Voge 900 in northern Ireland and have to say wow amazing Tec and a fantastic bike . Unlike CF Moto . They seem to be having trouble with distributing the bikes.northern Ireland only has 2 bikes and I'm told there's No More until next year? So what does this mean for parts servicing warranty? That said the bike looks feels & ride brilliantly. Not one issue or bad point on the test ride other than setting everything to my own linking and feel. It's better than the new triumph Tiger 900. And dare I say the CF Moto 800 explorer.-
Thanks, even if I don't like Chinese bikes, without any particular reason...it is just me 😊. I must give credit to this machine. If Chinese are now this good I'm wondering how it is going to be in a few years from now. Regards from Serbia 🇷🇸
Hi Kate loved the review. What a great bike for the price. I tried to follow your ride on my map as the roads looked great. Any chance you could share the route with me. Thanks
Took delivery of mine on Monday been out twice very impressed with the ride. Throttle is snappy at low speed but manageable. Very heavy to move about but will get used to it. Still haven't worked out how to use the App and find a manual but will get there. Buy one if your in the market.
Loved the bloopers at the end Kate. Great review as usual but I would have liked to have seen the bike riding in the dark. Maybe showing spotlights on and off etc.......
I filmed it all, but I couldn't include it because the DJI makes everything look pitch black at night and it wasn't a fair representation as the lights work brilliantly!
You know what Kate just seeing this bike just shows you these other bikes we rave about the dukes , the gs I honestly think we are being ripped off this just confirms it now
These Chinese bikes are really taking over (along with Royal Enfield). My BMW R1200RS has hearted grips and on setting three they can get too hot as well. Obviously German's get chilly hands! Those Welsh roads are ace.
Two years ago I bought a Voge 500DS (same engine as the Honda CB 500X - we all know what a pleasant and friendly engine that is). Despite coming from a more powerful bike - Triumph "Speedtona" 955i) - I had already enjoyed the Euro 4 version, so when my friend at one of the Voge dealerships here in Barcelona put their fully-specced ex-demo up for sale with less than 2000km on the clock (most of them done by him) I snapped it up. Needless to say I haven't regretted it: a sweet little crossover and its 46.3HP are more than enough for real-world solo riding, even when you want to go a bit daft in the Pyrenees. And so much feedback from the front end, even my Speedtona wasn't that good in that respect; fantastically confidence-building for novice riders and a great toy for an experienced rider like myself. I tested the 900DSX at the beginning of the summer on a few of my favourite roads in the immediate Barcelona area and absolutely loved it. Sure-footed and easily flickable despite the 21" front hoop, with all the oomph you need - and then some - in Sport mode (where the quickshifter really comes into its own). And Loncin clearly know how to make good rolling chassis as well as making great engines (I had already met the 900cc twin in the BMW), because it has that same communicative and confidence-inspiring front end. Thank goodness the local Catalan plod weren't out and about that day, because I really wasn't hanging about! I will definitely be considering the 900DSX next year if my bloomin' cancer goes away and I have time to buy and enjoy another bike.
Thanks for a very good review, Kate. Like a lot of stuff these days, it's made in China. Electrical and mechanical gear . So, in a short amount of time, they have come quite a long way. 👍👍👍
Had a look at 1 in Robinsons in Rochdale , didn’t know what it was when I stumbled across it and couldn’t believe the price/spec when I had a look over it!
Great review. You can update the fuelling via a download to your phone and then link to wifi hotspot on bike. Early bikes shipped with version 4.1. My bike arrived this week with 4.3 and I’ve just updated it to 4.4 and the surging is much reduced.
@@UsernameKate ah ok. I only got my bike yesterday and did about 20 miles. Updated from 4.3 to 4.4 this afternoon and have literally ridden a few miles but it certainly seems smoother with 4.4. But the fact you can update yourself via an android phone should bring easy further improvements . Let’s be honest, the Voge isn’t as polished as the 850/900GS …..BUT it’s half the price for 90% as good. I’d rather pay what I did and have the Voge with a few minor niggles such as occasional surging at very low revs, and a crap indicator switch than pay DOUBLE for a BMW that is nearly identical from the waist down .
the engine looks damn familiar lol cough cough 850gs.... well done Loncin, this comment came before you mentioned anything about the engine and Loncin also, brilliant price for a decent ride.
Recently, I had this Voge 900 for a 2-days test drive. I rode through the hills of the Swiss Jura, via St. Ursanne to Saignelégier, St. Imier, Moutier, Delémont, and back to Kleinlützel. The verdict is mixed: great agility and cornering (compared to the Thunderbird), strong acceleration, and good power reserves for overtaking. The Loncin engine hums pleasantly, and I don’t feel any strong vibrations like I do with my T-Bird. But: jerky throttle response at low speeds (my test bike has software version 4.2). Riding in traffic is more than a hassle. The engine also occasionally stutters, for example, when accelerating quickly out of a hairpin turn. Also, the (heated) seat is too hard and too low for my liking. After 3 hours, everything hurts… With my height of 190 cm, I can just about get my knees under the indentations on the tank. Comfort is something else. I’d need to raise the handlebars to avoid riding like a banana when standing. The windscreen is too low for me, so a bigger one would be needed. In short: mixed feelings. However, I’m confident that the bike can be adjusted to suit me. However, my dealer won’t be able to deliver the “Black Knight” version I prefer until next year…
Good review although the walk round should be at the start of the vid,and no mention of what the final drive is,chain or shaft.But the Voge seems to go well and it does look good,although it wouldve been good to see the other colours too
Hi Kate, great review! Giving TMF a run for his money that’s for sure! 😊 Can you confirm the payload in kg on this bike please? I’ll be booking a test ride in the near future based on your review 👍
Thanks for the comprehensive review,, I'm interested at this bike just i want to ask you is it smooth operating how is the vibration at the handle bar and it's stability at the high speed?,, thanks.
After 1 hour 20 of *ahem* motorway speeds, when I pulled up, I did feel a slight tingle in my hands, but not as bad as some where I will tap the tank with my fingers after a ride and it feels like I have springs in my finger tips! It wore off pretty instantly. The country lane stuff, my hands didn't tingle afterwards. High speed stability is very good, no issues with that.
Hi Kate, great review of both a good looking bike with spec and price to have many thinking..... HHmmmm 15-20+K for top brands ?... .This is a bit off base, but can I ask what mic you use as your audio is crystal clear... I get part of that is you have a projective voice.... Thanks for sharing your take on this new push for China....👍🥃
Awesome video! Great review. You hit all the points of interest. I don't get it though. From BMW's perspective as far as a relationship in production and competition. It looks like a GS, tank angle and geometry. At what ? Almost half the price and all the features. I suppose the only thing you are giving up with the Voge is cool factor. I would definitely be interested in this bike. Beautiful bike for sure. Best!
We’re obviously paying far too much for European and Japanese built motorcycles. The Voge is priced similarly to the Honda Transalp however the difference in spec is mind blowing unfortunately likely to suffer with poor resale values via disgruntled dealers.
I was going to take a look ,looked at least a dozen videos been good overall, and the comments pretty good, Have to agree what it's offering is brilliant, however one individual had the swing arm lose another fueling issues took it back had it remapped at the dealer new upgrade free of charge and its doing the same thing again snatchy throttle, , hopefully that been solved with the upgrade, I'd buy a Triumph but even they have had a few issues, I have looked at the BMW 850 and that has had few problems so how reliable is this going to be long term if the engine is the same. Nice too see your review on this bike 😊
Hi Kate, Excellent review as always thanks. I wonder whether the surging issue at low speed sorts itself out with the latest ECU mod. Any idea what update it had on it? Anyway, I've booked a test ride next week at Bob Minion, Derby. We'll see how it goes. Thanks again, Lee
Its not an ECU mod. It's just a display update (this had had it the morning I took it) Although I've read of a 'CF MOTO' fix where you have to do a sequence of things and it supposedly sorts it but I can't remember which FB page I saw it on
Hi Kate. Firstly Great video and welcome to my part of the world. You mention the surging at low speed. Do you think it was because you were in sport mode? And did you try it at low speed in any other mode? Cheers
would be good to know the insurance group and what its like for the pilion (none of you give this information). I would consider this bike, looks good.
Insurance is sooo different for everyone so only real way to know what it would be for you personally is to get a quote unfortunately. As for pillion, if I could have cloned myself for ya I would have 😁
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I've watched so many reviews on this bike and this is by far the most honest and accurate. Thank you.
I've just purchased mine in Arctic Blue just over a week ago. I traded my Triumph Tiger 850 Sport in against it and I can't believe how different the 2 bikes are. The Voge DS900X has some quirks that's been covered well in this video. I believe the low down engine worries are caused by the throttle response and is apparently fixed in the firmware updates (along with the unpredictable fuel gauge). This may also ease as the engine is run in.
There are some silly things that could be easily fixed. The keyless ignition is a little pointless when the fuel tank isn't keyless. You have to pull the key out of the fob which isn't so easy when you're tired and cold (guaranteed to drop the fob at some point). There is only one remote for it - a 2nd key is provided but at the moment no-one can say what to do if you lose the key fob or the battery dies in it. The bike doesn't have a fuel range and only one trip meter, these are niggles and hopefully will be updated in firmware updates - fingers crossed 🤞🤞.
That being said, there is no escaping the fact that this has to be one of the best value motorcycles on the market when you take into account the extra's that come as standard. Even radiator guards come with this bike.
For the Chinese haters, you need to get off your high horse. So many bikes and their components are now made in China that there is little to argue when it comes to quality. We had the same culture when Japanese bikes flooded the market in the 60's and look where we are now.
Seriously, at £9,200 it's a no brainer!
I was quoted 850 PLN or 162 GBP for a spare plastic fob ready to use if you lose the original.
I have found my fuel guage reasonably accurate and I know the bike can do 250km with my riding style in winter at sub 10C. I generally fuel at 200 to 220km and fit 14 litres in the tank on average on the 4.3 version HMI.
MotechRevolution? channel on YT talks about many aspects of the Voge 900 including the fob and key and the CR2032 3V battery that the fob uses.
ruclips.net/video/3jR9XQnaigg/видео.htmlsi=nemkBl0JgQzzc_pW
Love my Voge.
A good and unbiased review from somebody who grew up with Beemers, and goes all soppy, and wobbly at the knees everytime she sees a KTM!
I downsized from a F800GS to the Voge 300 Rally, and have no regrets, brilliant motorcycle
I have a Voge 300 Rallye, Have multiple sport bikes RSV4 factory,MT10 Blah Blah Blah,But The Most honest one i own is the Voge,Will be buying one of these in the new year.
Stunning bike regardless and for the money it's a huge WOW and a wonderful way into a quality ride that has all a rider could ever desire if they want the modern toys and frills - seriously you could ride this bike forever and be happy. In answer though, it's a hard NO, BMW buyers won't transfer to Voge in a million years - both BM and Voge know this, they have a great symbiotic relationship and it's refreshing to see the bike world changing in front of our eyes
I'm not an adventure bike kind of bloke but this one is spectacular value. Triumph and BMW' are very pricey and for those of us who don't want to take out a second mortgage to buy a bike will find this much more palatable. Those 20 zones really are an affront to your senses.
If you're not really bothered about the snobs who look down on non european or non Japanese bikes, I think this should do really well. Although, to be fair, china has earned their bad reputation.
Impeccable presentation by Kate!
Kate. Good honest review as usual. Seems like a cracking bike for the money. Makes a Bee em look a bit sick for all the money they cost. By the way you are far from incompetent in any shape or form. A great motorcyclist who presents some super vlogs. Keep at it coz thousands of us are pleased you do.
What a completely honest and unbiased review, refreshing to see that. That is one huge amount of bike for the money.
Looks awesome in black/gold, great colour choice
Great honest review 👍
It’s nice to hear someone give some real world insight well done.
Really appreciate the seat height/parking demonstration Kate! Would love to see that in yours and other's reviews. Constantly use your videos as a reference (we're about the same height), and usually fast scroll to if you've included the mounting/stopping in traffic part. Still a newbie myself, so the seat height still matters some.
Hope it'll be something you'll include in future videos, hope more reviewers catch on.
Wish you all the best, ride safe!
Glad you're back and healthy Kate 😊
I have a Voge 300 Rally which is a fab bike, great suspension, unbelievable economy. I've had dozens of bikes and love my Voge.
I watched about six videos on this bike, and I enjoyed yours the most, Kate. Great job, as always.
Hell of a resounding advocate - from such a confirmed GS fan!
You really are a damn good reviewer! Everything we would want to know plus more. Thank you.
You’ve come such a long way since you started and I enjoy the channel. Such a lot of bike for the money, I’d have one as a Winter hack.
Certainly something to give a lot of manufacturers sleepless nights 🤔. For me though a bit on the heavy side 😞. In fact, as from yesterday I became the proud owner of Voge DS525X! I've been up to the Yorkshire dales today, Settle,Hawes, Tan Hill Inn and back home via Devils Bridge, the bike seems exelent 🤞, just as you found on the 900, a bit lumpy at low revs/speed but for 6k I can live with that. In all, an exelent piece of kit 👍🏍.
Its funny because I didn't experience anything but a super smooth ride on the DS525X, but on this, it's throttle is noticeable but manageable. strange!
I am considering this bike , I'm 99% sold on the idea. Like you I have a 29 inseam, when I tried it in showroom it was way too high but I think with low seat & lowering kit it may well be right for me, I am 73 years old & just sold my 1200gsa. Thought it was time to downsize.
I'm a 70 year old and at 5ft8, a bit on the short side. I've just bought the 525, it seems exelent and, not too heavy.
Good to read that you had your GSA at that age. It gives me confidence that I'll be able to manage my 1250 GSA for a good few years to come.
Great review Kate I have owned and reviewed this bike in Spain for nearly 8 months. It's bullet proof. The engine is a sweet unit it's the same engine and down tuned Purely to get A2 certification. There is no reason the ECU cannot be flashed to match the F900GSA. Don't run any bike on E10 it states on the tank E5. Also throttle mod on my channel takes 5 minutes. Irons out the jerkiness. But E5 98 octane is the way to go, it flies ✌️
Thanks for your reviews too! Does that mean you only get 98 Octane for the bike? Is it noticable smoother than the 95?
@MotoSwitzerland when I can I will put 98 octane in. But she runs fine on 95. The bike has tons of power on 95, but 2 up with full luggage with 98 and in sports mode it's a beast. The bike has come a long way with updates. Early adopters had no option to change mode on the fly, and on the original engine map the engine ran hot and was nowhere near as refined as now.
Kate's review was great but she forgot to mention some key safety features. Emergency braking or hard braking, rear hazards and rear brake light flash. Traffic getting too near rear hazards lights flash. Turning left or right fog lamp on that side also illuminates for better turning visibility. Some amazing tech in the bike
@@motechRevolution Alright, thank you for the answer!😊 That helps a lot.
By now i probably now all there is by heart about this bike (without owning one yet). Including 4.4 update procedure, throttle hack etc. Your videos help a lot!🤝🏻
@@motechRevolution I hadn't watched any reviews before getting on it (just wanted tp get my views across uninfluenced if that makes sense) and since riding on my own, I couldn't see what the lights were doing when someone got close :) also, riding this back in the dark on the motorway (after filming) I did notice the spotlight coming on when indicating. I didn't personally like it as I feel it'll be quite distracting for a driver seeing it light up in their mirror (just because it's so bright! haha) but if you have the spots on all the time, it doesn't do the single spot illumination which I prefer.
First tank was e10 (didn't see the e5 on the tank first time and I wasn't told before taking it), second tank when I filled up at the end of this vlog was E5 but I honestly didn't notice any performance differences/ or how it felt. Can't comment on if it got better mpg as I dropped it off before needing to fill up again.
Awesome you have a throttle mod!! Need to get it done on this one then take it back out! Be cool to see the difference :) Thanks Motech Revoluton!
@UsernameKate hey Kate, a big thumbs up for your video, I am a big fan. Not trying to butt in on your excellent review. The video cam records constantly once a SD card is inserted. The button on the right takes instant pics in case of an event. I really enjoyed your round trip of N Wales. I lived in Abergele for many years. Born in Warrington, studied in Salford. You nailed it. Ride safe if you are ever in Spain we have accommodation and I'll show you some stunning routes. ✌️
That bikes amazing value, what an amazing review and video. Looking at the engine, I thought it was from my F900 initially. Alot of bang for the buck.
Fantastic review Kate, and the roads you were on looked really sweet for a fall ride!! Excellent!!!!
Very-interesting , never looked-at a review of a large-capacity Chinese-bike before . You can't beat the price and if it stands the-test-of-time it's a win-win . Dave nz
It sounds like a bike that could put the cat among the pigeons doesn't it. Great looker, high quality components, throwing the full accessory catalogue at it as standard. Could be a winner 👍
New subscriber, what a great review. That bike looks stunning for an adventure bike and the price is unbelievable for the spec.
This is a great video and review Kate - as always
What a good looking bike.
Bloody awesome review Kate.
Good to hear your honest pros and cons.
A bit scary for Triumph, BMW etc.
I bought my 2024 Tiger 900 Rally Pro in June which I love but it cost me £16k ! And this bikes comes fully loaded for under £10k !! That is mental.
Same here ! , looked at this bike at the show today , UK , you cannot see how this bike is half the price of the Triumph .
Seems to be a serious, capable bike, that also seems to be well put together with quality suspension and brakes. It is obviously also well thought through design wise to look appealing. You are in your right element when reviewing bikes. Nice listening to you, and your experience from many different bikes really shines through 😊.
I still adore you and your videos Kate! 😍
If my car is a bit lumpy pottering along in second gear, between 16-20 mph, I don't presume a fueling issue, I just pop it into first gear and the problem magically disappears! 😘
There's lumpy because you're in the wrong gear, then there's a completely unrelated snatchy throttle, of which this was defo the latter lol!
@UsernameKate As the pilot in control Kate, you are surely correct about that! 👍
Given it's a 900, I would be interested to see how well it potters along at 16-20mph, in first gear?
Great review and good looking bike. The cost of bikes is getting crazy so Voge could have a winner here.
No, you're not late with this Voge, as I always wait for your reviews before watching one elsewhere. I like the gold rims with this colour choice (unusual for me), the grip guards and tempomat, plus the tidy cockpit. The bike actually looks good overall, especially looking at it face on, but it doesn't really stand out against the many others in this catogory (except the KTMs). The biggest draw is (well for me) the price and all you get for it. I do wonder though how it will hold it's price as a used bike, and how good the overall finish and workmanship on it is.
Having said all that, i'm not really into this catagory, although I do enjoy the occasional ride on an adventure tourer, so you've done enough to make me ask myself....., where is my next Voge dealership?
at least this voge has a heated saddle and heated grips unlike the 525dsx you tested eariler this year , nice to see you back . plus spot lights
Brilliant review.
Honda could certainly take some inspiration from the look of this display - it’s far nicer than their ‘designed by an engineer’ layouts.
I've been trying to imagine myself as a younger, adventure-bike type of guy who wants one bike to ride down to Spain and/or North Africa and enjoy a great on-road and off-road experience. The Voge costs £9k. It's got a lot of kit but it weighs 238kgs. By the time you've added all your panniers and gear you'll be dealing with a leviathan which will be no fun off-road. At the moment Honda dealers are offering £8.8k deals on the 2024 750 Transalp because a slightly updated 2025 version is on the way. This bike weighs just 208kg - that's 30kgs lighter than the Voge. That makes a big difference off-road. Despite conceding 140 cc power is very similar and the badge (and thus residual value) has a lot more credibility. The only genuinely useful thing you're losing is cruise control, but I'd make this sacrifice for the sake of all the other benefits.
Or Kove 800 - another 12 kg lighter than Transalp.
@richardhretczak536 That's a good shout. My only apprehension would be how comfy is it for the long road journeys south and how easy would it be to source spares for it in North Africa?
None of the modern "adventure" bikes are lightweight. Just way too heavy. There are opti9ns like the Tenere 700, Tuareg 660, Transalp as you mentioned, and the new Kove 800x. Also the CF moto 450 MT or the Him 450.
Quite a few optio s out there
@@Whatreally123 In one way I agree with you. I'm a dinosaur who believes in road bikes for the road and enduros for the dirt. But the thing is I wouldn't go more than 30 miles on the road on my DRZ. So Spain would be out of the question unless I took it there in a van. If you want just one bike to ride south and enjoy on/off road adventure it's going to weigh at least 180-190 kgs. If it doesn't it'll be too uncomfortable on the highway. The Transalp looks comfy and civilised so I'd live with its 208 kg. Compared to my RT (279 kgs) it would feel like a moped!
Still nowhere near the weight of a fully loaded bmw 1300 gs.
I took a gamble with the CF Moto 3yrs with the 650 MT. And I love it . I've done over 13,000 miles touring Ireland Scotland & Wales. And she's never let me down No issues whatsoever. I took the first test ride of the Voge 900 in northern Ireland and have to say wow amazing Tec and a fantastic bike . Unlike CF Moto . They seem to be having trouble with distributing the bikes.northern Ireland only has 2 bikes and I'm told there's No More until next year? So what does this mean for parts servicing warranty? That said the bike looks feels & ride brilliantly. Not one issue or bad point on the test ride other than setting everything to my own linking and feel. It's better than the new triumph Tiger 900. And dare I say the CF Moto 800 explorer.-
Thanks, even if I don't like Chinese bikes, without any particular reason...it is just me 😊. I must give credit to this machine. If Chinese are now this good I'm wondering how it is going to be in a few years from now. Regards from Serbia 🇷🇸
Hi Kate loved the review. What a great bike for the price. I tried to follow your ride on my map as the roads looked great. Any chance you could share the route with me. Thanks
Marnin Kate. Glad you've done a review on Voge 900. Hopefully getting a test ride on one soon. 🤙👍 outtakes 😊 great singing 🎶 👌
Does the display says Mlies instead of Miles? Thanks for the review! Great work.
LOL it says Mlies... DOH
@@UsernameKate 😂
Good review. You look great on that ride. Matte black is sweet.
Took delivery of mine on Monday been out twice very impressed with the ride. Throttle is snappy at low speed but manageable. Very heavy to move about but will get used to it.
Still haven't worked out how to use the App and find a manual but will get there.
Buy one if your in the market.
Is a GS by any other name less sweet ?
twould appear not.
Nice review Kate. Great looking bike.
Classic 650 has arrived, I want a detailed ride review of this 650 from you Kate😊, thank you.
Fantastic review Kate,, Beautiful bike
I'm sold on the idea of ownership. My only concerns are around the lack of a full dealer network, and parts availability
Great review Kate! Very interesting bike. Thanks for sharing! 🙂
Great video Kate. You always give a great review on the bike you are riding. Thank you. Glad the heated seat works well and grips too.😊
Loved the bloopers at the end Kate. Great review as usual but I would have liked to have seen the bike riding in the dark. Maybe showing spotlights on and off etc.......
I filmed it all, but I couldn't include it because the DJI makes everything look pitch black at night and it wasn't a fair representation as the lights work brilliantly!
Great review as always.
Mega value for money that.
Good video Kate. Hope you are fully well now.
I am thanks, a few lifestyle changes will hopefully keep the beast at bay.
Well for the dosh you cant go wrong really can you?
I will definitely be looking one up at the MCL!
Lovely bike! Seems to be excellent value for the money. Fantastic review as always!
I bought my first proper motorbike a Honda 250 Superdream from keith Dixon motorcycles Accrington 44 years ago!!
I really like this, if I didn’t already have the BMW f850 gs id be looking to get one.
You know what Kate just seeing this bike just shows you these other bikes we rave about the dukes , the gs I honestly think we are being ripped off this just confirms it now
Another belting review kate. Defo the reviewer to rely on you mate 👍
Big praise from you!! Appreciate it so much!
It'll interesting to see how these bikes last wear and tear and reliability wise. If they do well.....other manufacturers should worry.
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
A good review Mrs ! You do make me chuckle 😉
These Chinese bikes are really taking over (along with Royal Enfield). My BMW R1200RS has hearted grips and on setting three they can get too hot as well. Obviously German's get chilly hands! Those Welsh roads are ace.
It will be interesting to see how the finish holds up.
Another great video Kate, keep it up 👍
Two years ago I bought a Voge 500DS (same engine as the Honda CB 500X - we all know what a pleasant and friendly engine that is). Despite coming from a more powerful bike - Triumph "Speedtona" 955i) - I had already enjoyed the Euro 4 version, so when my friend at one of the Voge dealerships here in Barcelona put their fully-specced ex-demo up for sale with less than 2000km on the clock (most of them done by him) I snapped it up. Needless to say I haven't regretted it: a sweet little crossover and its 46.3HP are more than enough for real-world solo riding, even when you want to go a bit daft in the Pyrenees. And so much feedback from the front end, even my Speedtona wasn't that good in that respect; fantastically confidence-building for novice riders and a great toy for an experienced rider like myself.
I tested the 900DSX at the beginning of the summer on a few of my favourite roads in the immediate Barcelona area and absolutely loved it. Sure-footed and easily flickable despite the 21" front hoop, with all the oomph you need - and then some - in Sport mode (where the quickshifter really comes into its own). And Loncin clearly know how to make good rolling chassis as well as making great engines (I had already met the 900cc twin in the BMW), because it has that same communicative and confidence-inspiring front end. Thank goodness the local Catalan plod weren't out and about that day, because I really wasn't hanging about! I will definitely be considering the 900DSX next year if my bloomin' cancer goes away and I have time to buy and enjoy another bike.
Wish you a speedy recovery. 👍
Thanks for a very good review, Kate. Like a lot of stuff these days, it's made in China. Electrical and mechanical gear . So, in a short amount of time, they have come quite a long way. 👍👍👍
Brilliant Real Review Kate !! keep it up yeh bike is vale foe money wow 🤗🤗🤗
Hey crocodile. Great video. I've got one on order. Hopefully get it in March.
Great reviews, keep up the good work, 👍🇦🇺
Not really interested in the bike but glad I watched the video. Such beautiful roads there.
Dam that bike looks huge! 😲
The bike seems really good. Too early to know the long-term reliability. Great roads. You need to vlog in Wales more often!
Had a look at 1 in Robinsons in Rochdale , didn’t know what it was when I stumbled across it and couldn’t believe the price/spec when I had a look over it!
I’d love one..
Great review.
You can update the fuelling via a download to your phone and then link to wifi hotspot on bike.
Early bikes shipped with version 4.1.
My bike arrived this week with 4.3 and I’ve just updated it to 4.4 and the surging is much reduced.
This had the 4.4 update the morning I rode it.
@@UsernameKate ah ok.
I only got my bike yesterday and did about 20 miles.
Updated from 4.3 to 4.4 this afternoon and have literally ridden a few miles but it certainly seems smoother with 4.4.
But the fact you can update yourself via an android phone should bring easy further improvements .
Let’s be honest, the Voge isn’t as polished as the 850/900GS …..BUT it’s half the price for 90% as good.
I’d rather pay what I did and have the Voge with a few minor niggles such as occasional surging at very low revs, and a crap indicator switch than pay DOUBLE for a BMW that is nearly identical from the waist down .
We are coming to bike show on Sunday, we will come and see you x
Excellent review, it looks a proper bargain
You r probably one the few tuber worth watching
Hi Kate Wonderful review another motorcycle with out the brand premium price tag. Exceptional value compared to a lot of the established brands.
the engine looks damn familiar lol cough cough 850gs.... well done Loncin, this comment came before you mentioned anything about the engine and Loncin also, brilliant price for a decent ride.
Recently, I had this Voge 900 for a 2-days test drive. I rode through the hills of the Swiss Jura, via St. Ursanne to Saignelégier, St. Imier, Moutier, Delémont, and back to Kleinlützel. The verdict is mixed: great agility and cornering (compared to the Thunderbird), strong acceleration, and good power reserves for overtaking. The Loncin engine hums pleasantly, and I don’t feel any strong vibrations like I do with my T-Bird.
But: jerky throttle response at low speeds (my test bike has software version 4.2). Riding in traffic is more than a hassle. The engine also occasionally stutters, for example, when accelerating quickly out of a hairpin turn. Also, the (heated) seat is too hard and too low for my liking. After 3 hours, everything hurts…
With my height of 190 cm, I can just about get my knees under the indentations on the tank. Comfort is something else. I’d need to raise the handlebars to avoid riding like a banana when standing.
The windscreen is too low for me, so a bigger one would be needed. In short: mixed feelings. However, I’m confident that the bike can be adjusted to suit me.
However, my dealer won’t be able to deliver the “Black Knight” version I prefer until next year…
Thanks for your valuable insights!
Great review - what route did you take from Abergele ?
Google maps - Abergele - Llanfair Talhaiarn, Abergele - Llansannan, Denbigh - Sportsman's Arms, Denbigh LL16 5SP - Pentrefoelas, Betws-y-Coed - Cwm Cynfal viewpoint, B4391, Blaenau Ffestiniog LL41 4PT
@@UsernameKate Thanks Kate
I'm shocked, that is a complelling package. I lvoe that it comes with a dashcam.
Great vlog as usual….can I ask what mount you are using for your phone / nav … I see you have a quad lock on the right hand side of your bars ..
That quadlock wasn't mine. It was a kd motorcycles staff member. I use peak design 😊
Good review although the walk round should be at the start of the vid,and no mention of what the final drive is,chain or shaft.But the Voge seems to go well and it does look good,although it wouldve been good to see the other colours too
Getting just as big as the gs 😮
Hi Kate, great review! Giving TMF a run for his money that’s for sure! 😊 Can you confirm the payload in kg on this bike please? I’ll be booking a test ride in the near future based on your review 👍
Thanks for the comprehensive review,, I'm interested at this bike just i want to ask you is it smooth operating how is the vibration at the handle bar and it's stability at the high speed?,, thanks.
After 1 hour 20 of *ahem* motorway speeds, when I pulled up, I did feel a slight tingle in my hands, but not as bad as some where I will tap the tank with my fingers after a ride and it feels like I have springs in my finger tips! It wore off pretty instantly. The country lane stuff, my hands didn't tingle afterwards. High speed stability is very good, no issues with that.
Hi Kate, great review of both a good looking bike with spec and price to have many thinking.....
HHmmmm 15-20+K for top brands ?...
.This is a bit off base, but can I ask what mic you use as your audio is crystal clear...
I get part of that is you have a projective voice....
Thanks for sharing your take on this new push for China....👍🥃
Awesome video! Great review. You hit all the points of interest. I don't get it though. From BMW's perspective as far as a relationship in production and competition. It looks like a GS, tank angle and geometry. At what ? Almost half the price and all the features. I suppose the only thing you are giving up with the Voge is cool factor. I would definitely be interested in this bike. Beautiful bike for sure. Best!
We’re obviously paying far too much for European and Japanese built motorcycles. The Voge is priced similarly to the Honda Transalp however the difference in spec is mind blowing unfortunately likely to suffer with poor resale values via disgruntled dealers.
I was going to take a look ,looked at least a dozen videos been good overall, and the comments pretty good,
Have to agree what it's offering is brilliant, however one individual had the swing arm lose another fueling issues took it back had it remapped at the dealer new upgrade free of charge and its doing the same thing again snatchy throttle, , hopefully that been solved with the upgrade,
I'd buy a Triumph but even they have had a few issues,
I have looked at the BMW 850 and that has had few problems so how reliable is this going to be long term if the engine is the same.
Nice too see your review on this bike 😊
Another great video Kate avoid surging don't go to Wales,only joking Kate keep up the good work thanks.
Hi Kate,
Excellent review as always thanks. I wonder whether the surging issue at low speed sorts itself out with the latest ECU mod. Any idea what update it had on it?
Anyway, I've booked a test ride next week at Bob Minion, Derby. We'll see how it goes.
Thanks again, Lee
Its not an ECU mod. It's just a display update (this had had it the morning I took it) Although I've read of a 'CF MOTO' fix where you have to do a sequence of things and it supposedly sorts it but I can't remember which FB page I saw it on
Much less surging with latest 4.4 software. Updated mine from 4.3 today.
I didn't ride it prior to the 4.4 so cant comment on if it made a difference I'm afraid.
Hi Kate. Firstly Great video and welcome to my part of the world. You mention the surging at low speed. Do you think it was because you were in sport mode? And did you try it at low speed in any other mode? Cheers
Just the same in other modes :)
I find the same with our nc1100 blood bike. Not a fan of that either. Lovely bike and great value
Amazing for the price 👍
Interesting review. Just wondering - is the handle bar switch gear illuminated for night riding?
Switch gear isn't back lit
Hello there from Portugal. I ordered one on june and is not available till February. Sold out this year.
would be good to know the insurance group and what its like for the pilion (none of you give this information). I would consider this bike, looks good.
Insurance is sooo different for everyone so only real way to know what it would be for you personally is to get a quote unfortunately. As for pillion, if I could have cloned myself for ya I would have 😁