This video was sponsored, which I'm grateful for, but most of the videos I've made about their tools weren't. I just think it's helpful for people to understand a bit more about a tool they're considering. The tools really just sell themselves.
TimWelds... Oh man thanks for sharing this with us. I definitely need the 15" version in my garage/shop. I'm currently using their Rage4 but find it too small so it's time to upgrade. Can you buy them at Lowe's?
@@TimWelds Lowe's has Evolution but I don't think they have that particular model. I might get away with the 14" one after watching your other video on them.
I wouldn't say incorrect, you got it cut. Tipping it at 45 is just a little easier on the blade, but with a miter you have to lay it flat anyway and truth be told, I'm often lazy and just leave it flat for straight cuts too.
I bought an Evo couple months ago and cut angle iron @ 45' for frame work. It jammed on the first cut. I tried again and it 'grabbed' and flung a 15" piece of angle half way across my shop. Scared the heck out of me and I promptly returned it - POS as far as I'm concerned. The table will also only angle one direction. I will stick with my DeWalt abrasive cutter.
Mitering angle iron in a standard chop saw like this is more of a challenge because the fence only angles one direction. To get the second angle, it has to be positioned upside down. If you just put it in the clamp upside down without a secondary piece of material, the saw can pull the vertical section backward after it cuts through the flat section, dislodging it. I've made a video about this in the past. I've made thousands of cuts on their saws and only had material get caught once, which was completely my fault for improperly clamping it. Their S355MCS is better for angle because it pivots both directions so you can leave the corner sitting in the corner of the saw the whole time. BTW, I've had material come loose in an abrasive saw before and the blade shattered, which sounded like a bomb going off and was much more concerning and dangerous. Once again, my own error in clamping it.
They're great! I used to have an abrasive saw and it was an inaccurate mess. I got a bandsaw and it was too slow for me. Once I switched to this kind, I was sold instantly.
Got a question for the smart fabricators in the room, what is the main difference between the Evo metal chop saw and the evo metal miter saw? Is it that the miter saw has more fencing? (And obviously a higher cost and larger footprint).
It's a great question. I actually made a video about it: ruclips.net/video/JzYTWdct6vs/видео.html MCS Advantages: The biggest thing for me is that the MCS (miter saw version) has a rotating head and motor so that your stock maintains alignment when you set it to make an angled cut. With the standard chop saws, the fence rotates, so your stock comes off at an angle to the saw. The MCS has more clamping options and can angle both directions, which is nice for small or odd shape pieces like angle iron. Overall, the MCS is a more versatile saw for those reasons. Standard Chop Saw Advantages: The regular chop saws like these are much faster to use because of the single clamp on them. For most fabrication work making 90 degree and 45 degree cuts on round/square/rectangular tubing and solid stock they are just as capable. The standard chop saws are also much more portable and easy to store. Bottom line: They're both great and most projects could be done with either one. If speed, portability, storage space and cost are your main objectives, go with one of these. If maximum versatility to cut small or odd shaped parts or the ability to have your stock face the same direction no matter the angle you're cutting, go for the MCS.
Hey tim, well evolution is a british company, and you guys over the pond get the new shizz welllllll before we do!! I spoke to cs here in uk thursday about the max blades and they said " all been well by march/april 25" what a joke, i use the mcs mitre saw version no faffin about with moving fence around, i converted mine to soft start ages ago, good informative video as normal 👍
I see their new blades are copying the composition of the teeth of the Diablo blades. I’ve been using them for about nine years now and have gotten one new blade after all that time, about a year ago. The blade is steel/stainless and costs less than $90. I’m not trying to steal your thunder here, but I find most 14” blades to be very overpriced, particularly when manufacturers want you to buy three blades, one for steel, another for stainless and another for aluminum, which really should be bought. Having just one for steel/stainless is not only a lot less expensive, but changing blades is a real pain, so people tend not to do it if “it’s just one cut”, and over time, ruin the blade. I am thinking of replacing my saw though and these look interesting. I made a rotating saw platform, so if these for the space I made where the base drops in, that would be nice. I just wish someone could use a motor other than these series wound motors that are so noisy that hearing protection is required even before you start the cut.
Cermet teeth are on many brands of blades. This is a different blade design than the Diablo and also has more teeth. I'm not sure which brands Evolution benchmarked against with their independent testing service, but they found 50% longer life than the best performing competitor. From my own experience, all I can really say is that they worked good out of the box because I've only made a hundred or so cuts with the new blades. That rotating saw platform sounds awesome, that's the one drawback to these saws where the fence rotates.
@@TimWelds other companies are making them now, but it took years after Diablo came out with them. I’d love to see another moderately priced blade with them designed for steel/stainless. Blade. It’s is just too high. I’d rather replace one $86 blade every six years, or so, than two blades that cost, together, around $250.
If I did much chop saw cutting with stainless, I wouldn't want to switch back and forth either. For chop saw work, it's just steel and aluminum for me.
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Evo better take care of you, Tim. Best salesman they got!
This video was sponsored, which I'm grateful for, but most of the videos I've made about their tools weren't. I just think it's helpful for people to understand a bit more about a tool they're considering. The tools really just sell themselves.
Impressive
TimWelds... Oh man thanks for sharing this with us. I definitely need the 15" version in my garage/shop. I'm currently using their Rage4 but find it too small so it's time to upgrade. Can you buy them at Lowe's?
I haven't seen them at Lowe's, maybe they have them online. They ship fast from their site or amazon.
@@TimWelds Lowe's has Evolution but I don't think they have that particular model. I might get away with the 14" one after watching your other video on them.
Thanks TW and Evolution. I've been cutting square tubing incorrectly all these years.
I wouldn't say incorrect, you got it cut. Tipping it at 45 is just a little easier on the blade, but with a miter you have to lay it flat anyway and truth be told, I'm often lazy and just leave it flat for straight cuts too.
@@TimWelds I've always tipped angle iron but never thought about tipping square tubing. Makes sense though.
Looks an excellent machine,great demonstration, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
I bought an Evo couple months ago and cut angle iron @ 45' for frame work. It jammed on the first cut. I tried again and it 'grabbed' and flung a 15" piece of angle half way across my shop. Scared the heck out of me and I promptly returned it - POS as far as I'm concerned. The table will also only angle one direction. I will stick with my DeWalt abrasive cutter.
Mitering angle iron in a standard chop saw like this is more of a challenge because the fence only angles one direction. To get the second angle, it has to be positioned upside down. If you just put it in the clamp upside down without a secondary piece of material, the saw can pull the vertical section backward after it cuts through the flat section, dislodging it. I've made a video about this in the past. I've made thousands of cuts on their saws and only had material get caught once, which was completely my fault for improperly clamping it. Their S355MCS is better for angle because it pivots both directions so you can leave the corner sitting in the corner of the saw the whole time. BTW, I've had material come loose in an abrasive saw before and the blade shattered, which sounded like a bomb going off and was much more concerning and dangerous. Once again, my own error in clamping it.
I absolutely love mine !!
They're great! I used to have an abrasive saw and it was an inaccurate mess. I got a bandsaw and it was too slow for me. Once I switched to this kind, I was sold instantly.
@ wanting to get the mag drill next !!
Great video!
Thanks Alex!
Hell yea was just looking into these saws! Solid review
Thanks!
forsure my next tool buy .
Got a question for the smart fabricators in the room, what is the main difference between the Evo metal chop saw and the evo metal miter saw?
Is it that the miter saw has more fencing? (And obviously a higher cost and larger footprint).
It's a great question. I actually made a video about it: ruclips.net/video/JzYTWdct6vs/видео.html
MCS Advantages: The biggest thing for me is that the MCS (miter saw version) has a rotating head and motor so that your stock maintains alignment when you set it to make an angled cut. With the standard chop saws, the fence rotates, so your stock comes off at an angle to the saw. The MCS has more clamping options and can angle both directions, which is nice for small or odd shape pieces like angle iron. Overall, the MCS is a more versatile saw for those reasons.
Standard Chop Saw Advantages: The regular chop saws like these are much faster to use because of the single clamp on them. For most fabrication work making 90 degree and 45 degree cuts on round/square/rectangular tubing and solid stock they are just as capable. The standard chop saws are also much more portable and easy to store.
Bottom line: They're both great and most projects could be done with either one. If speed, portability, storage space and cost are your main objectives, go with one of these. If maximum versatility to cut small or odd shaped parts or the ability to have your stock face the same direction no matter the angle you're cutting, go for the MCS.
Hey tim, well evolution is a british company, and you guys over the pond get the new shizz welllllll before we do!! I spoke to cs here in uk thursday about the max blades and they said " all been well by march/april 25" what a joke, i use the mcs mitre saw version no faffin about with moving fence around, i converted mine to soft start ages ago, good informative video as normal 👍
They sell to their biggest market first. That’s normal.
@@melgrossgod bless merica 😂
@@theplantpotman it just allows them to recover costs faster.
I see their new blades are copying the composition of the teeth of the Diablo blades. I’ve been using them for about nine years now and have gotten one new blade after all that time, about a year ago. The blade is steel/stainless and costs less than $90. I’m not trying to steal your thunder here, but I find most 14” blades to be very overpriced, particularly when manufacturers want you to buy three blades, one for steel, another for stainless and another for aluminum, which really should be bought. Having just one for steel/stainless is not only a lot less expensive, but changing blades is a real pain, so people tend not to do it if “it’s just one cut”, and over time, ruin the blade. I am thinking of replacing my saw though and these look interesting. I made a rotating saw platform, so if these for the space I made where the base drops in, that would be nice. I just wish someone could use a motor other than these series wound motors that are so noisy that hearing protection is required even before you start the cut.
Cermet teeth are on many brands of blades. This is a different blade design than the Diablo and also has more teeth. I'm not sure which brands Evolution benchmarked against with their independent testing service, but they found 50% longer life than the best performing competitor. From my own experience, all I can really say is that they worked good out of the box because I've only made a hundred or so cuts with the new blades. That rotating saw platform sounds awesome, that's the one drawback to these saws where the fence rotates.
@@TimWelds other companies are making them now, but it took years after Diablo came out with them. I’d love to see another moderately priced blade with them designed for steel/stainless. Blade. It’s is just too high. I’d rather replace one $86 blade every six years, or so, than two blades that cost, together, around $250.
If I did much chop saw cutting with stainless, I wouldn't want to switch back and forth either. For chop saw work, it's just steel and aluminum for me.
@ I get it. I do a lot of stainless.
Dear, can fix this wheel on 1800rpm cut off machine?
The max speed of these blades is 1600 RPM.