Hi Phillip, I actively avoided buying a rural property that had plantations anywhere nearby (and/or on the boundary) here in Australia for 2 main reasons. The first is the SIGNIFICANT increase in fire risk (in the Australian climate) and the second I'd because of the bloody mess they leave when they log. (Your area seems a lot better managed). Having said that, there is one aspect that you didn't mention and may not have considered... in my opinion, you bought that house at about just the right time. If it had already been recently logged, you may well have been put off, not having been able to see what the forest could look like. The other reason is that you will get something like 10, 15 or 20 years benefit knowing that after replanting, no one will be back to log the forest again and you get to enjoy the forest as it grows for its full lifetime before re harvesting... A bit of selective planting on your part could add to the buffer that blocks the 'damage' you have to see in the meantime, but overall, I think you have some very considerate loggers working there! Good to see an update, look forward to seeing what's next..
Living in British Columbia 🇨🇦 ,I too noticed how TIDY that operation was! Neat piles of tree branches, and logs pulled, but no other mess and debris. Looks like the ground has hardly been eaten up by those machines like they are here!!
@@KimberlySimpson04 A bit late, but the reason they usually pile tops and branches up here is we often make woodchips out of them for big heating plants.
@scania9786 ohh! That's using all the parts of the tree pretty effectively! Operations here in BC 🇨🇦 chip trees as well, but it depends on the purpose. Smaller trees that don't make good lumber, and waste from lumber mills go to our pulp mills to make paper products. In the town I live in, we have a couple nearby pellet mills which make wood pellets out of the chips to use in residential pellet burning fireplaces (they also make great kitty litter and emergency traction if you get stuck s somewhere in the winter!). We do have a few biofuel plants here, which make energy/electricity out of waste wood, but at the moment they're not as popular for whatever reason (probably the cost of running and setup).
@@theNamesPhillipI think you will come to love it. You still have buckets of trees around but now you also have open space and will get to see different aspects of nature. Enjoy. And yes love it. The forest will grow with you. 😊
Yes it will be a forest with more life then before will proably be more ritch fauna. those thick pinnetree forest are kinda dead and boring on the ground. I hope you get a much better forrest, in 5-10 year you wont recognice the place
Some positive consequences of forests taken down: Directly the years after and until there is a new dense forest there (over ten years) you can pick smultron and skogshallon there 🥳🤩 (wild strawberries and forest raspberries). The seeds are already there since centuries. Cool! 😎 Shortly after the harvesting of the trees the ground is prepared during the summer for planting again. A mechanical device turns over the soil with a 2 by 2 meter pattern over the whole area. Year 3 and 4 after this during March to April when the ground dries up, you can pick a particularly sought after delicacy mushroom in those dugouts - murklor! Beware though! Those mushrooms require the correct cooking procedure not to be harmful to your kidneys (and if you eat them regularly for many years without proper handling you may experience symptoms of that). I am 68 and grew up on a diet of which murklor was an important part at special dinner occasions. My father lived to be 94 years and my mother nearly the same and murklor was reserved for special dinner occasions for us all in the family and with friends and relatives. With no kidney issues. Just saying. The wildlife experience for you will also take a turn for the better. With the new vegetation, elks, roe deers and other animals will frequently be seen from your house. I can sympathise with your feelings. After a total forest harvest it looks ugly. Really depressingly ugly. But!.. That ugliness is gone in one year and converted to a lushness of birch and other trees. Much more to say but already too long. You will enjoy the transformation in years to come. Trust me. Kind regards/A
Your positivity is just what I expected ❤ the trees will grow back and you and Merja have so many plans to support your local wildlife and plantlife. I am picturing the dr Dolittle scene in my head and Snowwhite washing dishes scene 🤣 xxx
The forest around our summer cottage in Värmland (Sweden as well) got cut down a few years ago. It annoyed me at first, but I got used to it in no-time. There are even a few positives! a) Rasberries! They love deforrested areas. b) Wild life! You get to see so much animals traveling across the suddenly open areas c) Regrowth. It's amazing to see how nature reclaims the deforrested landscape. d) More sun during the winter season.
@@the-nomad-show wild strawberries! I forgot about those. Yeah they might come as well. (And why are they called wild strawberries? They taste nothing like strawberries.)
Hello I enjoyed this video about the forest, it's good that you were able to find out about the future of the forest. I'm wishing you best of luck with the out come of it all. Looking forward to the next video.
I believe the majority of people watching videos of vast forest taken somewhere in Europe are not aware that most forest are under active management and will be logged sometime in the future. Unless they are under some form of protection. But anyway, the majority of forest in Sweden are plantations for harvest and treated that way. You might find it shocking but it's a simple matter of demand for wood and wood products, which make us all responsible. On the other hand, if you buy a property near state owned forests, it's a pretty safe bet that these won't be sold for housing or any other land use. So while it might be loud and messy when forest parts gets logged every now and then, trees will be replanted. If you buy a property in some sort of a protected area, be it N2000 or a landscape park, you will have regulations imposed on your property regarding building and management, down to fances and building pathways. So there are always pros and cons. One thing that is possible on state owned land vs private forest is to petition for taking some parts out of active management due to the presence of rare protected species. Not easy to get it done though and will only save some smaller patches. But it's worthwhile to check your area for such species. Not sure how this applies to privately owned forests, though.
I totally agree with you. When we purchased our own farm land in Slovenia, which belongs to N2000 protected area and species, we also have to sign paper of law of regulations that we will follows the orders and don’t do something harmful to the protected lands area. And they have an endless list of what to do and what NOT to do 😂
The demand for wood is actually paper boxes for online shopping. And they even fell the protected forests TOO. Against the law. It is not natural or normal. Cutting down every tree in an area like that is extremely unsustainable as it causes loss of habitat and death for certain species, it causes nutrients to leave the soil and end up in lakes and the sea causing dead ocean beds due to too much nutrients. This type of forestry is a product of very poorly educated people running this type of modern unsustainable forestry.
It's at least 95% of the "forests" in Sweden that are clear-cut and planted. So they are not forests in an ecological sense. They are mono culture plantations, and it's because of the "management" the bark beetle runs rampant. It's even an law that you have to clear cut the forest you own.
I had a friend whom lived near forestry and whenever the forest needed some trimming the foresters apologized for the uppcomming noice in advanced and asked if they would be sad if they accidentally dropped some logs on their yard. The last part was basically, from what I understand, a question of wether or not they had a wood burner or fireplace and wanted some spare trees that would be inconvenient and unprofitable to move. Basically they got a year or two worth of firewood. In my experience people in the forest industry are super friendly.
I definitely need try work on adopting your mindset about the whole situation. When you were talking about how there's really nothing you can do about the fact that it's happening and that you just need to control your reaction to it, it really resonated with me. We live in Ireland, and I think that most people are aware of how severe our housing crisis is. We bought a house in the midlands two years ago and the back of our home looks out over a green and then just miles of forrest behind it. They've started to built a row of 3 storey terraces on the otherside of the green, so we'll never have that forrest view again once the houses are up. I'm devastated and angry about it, but it is what it is. I'll take your mindset and try to absorb it deep into my soul for the next time I hear construction sounds. Great video. I'm sorry they cut everything down, but at least you'll get to experience the lifecycle of a forrest from the start, which will be magnificent.
In Latvia, when such fellings are carried out, the forest is cleaned up, and a new stand is planted, in about 4-5 years the trees stretch out considerably.
Will be interesting to see what understory growth pops up now that light will be hitting the ground. Amazing what is lying dormant in the soil waiting for woodland to be cleared. Nice to see that they are trying to leave you a screen to protect your view.
Hello Phillip! Just stumbled on your channel and seen the last few video,s about the house and the property! I hope you make an update video soon! It would be nice to see it all in spring time! Greetings from Holland!
I should imagine going into a Swedish company is quite difficult for a non Swede. Give yourself time to adjust. As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day! Take advantage of the space where the trees have come down. Wild flowers etc will grow in the light which will be lovely to walk in when spring comes.
It has definitely been a challenge but something I’ve wanted to do for such a long time so that I can really start to assimilate. The company I work for being amazing about it as well and have enrolled me into a program in order to get my Swedish to a fluent level which is unbelievable to me 😁 That is definitely the best way you could possibly look at it , thanks for that positivity!! 😊
Like other had said, ones they are planted it will grow in no-time. When I started hunting, one area was replanted just two years prior and I've been sitting in a small hunting tower for three years now and I cannot see over the tops anymore. Pine grows very fast, around two-three feet per year and the nice thing about it growing is that it's not going to be cut down again in 70-100 years in the northern parts of Sweden. Unless you get very old, you'll only have this clear-felled area once in your lifetime and you and your kids will enjoy the same forest together, that's a heart warming thought in my opinion. Also, there will be a lot of wildlife once it's replanted, you will see so much animals fall and spring time to come. Keep the morale up, the forest will be back in no time!
I'm not 100% sure how it's done in Sweden, but I'd imagine it's similar to forestry in Finland, where the landowner only gets the full payment for the timber until they've replanted the area. In Finland and Sweden, almost all forests are managed, so you can expect any forest to be cut down every 50 years or so. Some modernisation is coming into how forests are kept, mainly how large areas can be clear-cut at once, continuous felling (where you essentially keep trees in all stages of growth instead of planting a large area all at once) etc. However, in your case, where there's a parasite issue, they generally need to fell large areas to save neighbouring forests, esp. a certain fungi that can infect the root systems of pine trees and wipe out hundreds of hectares in short order.
That’s a good reminder. Our family have a small house in the woods for decades, and one day we drive there the forest was just gone. Didn’t know anything, quite the surprise. But part of life cycle in Swedish forest.
You can see from the patern that this was a planted forest, this means it was always planned to be taken down. Sweden is 4th biggest exporter of timber in the world. With a higher export than large countries like Brazil and Russia. This is one of the original industries that built the wealth of Sweden.
Love your show, will continue to follow your Swedidmsh journey. Best wishes and be safe. Tom in Minneapolis where we have lots of Swedish and Norwegian folks.
Hi Philip! Don't be too upset about the felling of the forest - you'll see that in the first few years afterwards there will be SO MUCH RASPBERRIES there. And blackberries. Well at least that's what happens in Småland, anyway, I don't know for sure further north where you are. But I bet it's the same. So you'll have memorable times with your family there, just picking raspberries for hours and hours!
Thanks once again for another informative video with sound advice for us house hunting souls. Also, so pleased the company were so accommodating and supplied reassurances regarding no infrastructure etc and are replanting the forest, this time hopefully a healthy stock and well maintained one. If that was the UK you know you'd have a housing estate going up and a dual carriageway by next week at the bottom of your garden 😔
Thanks so much! Yes they are great and that was my first thought as well, oh no they’re going to make a high speed railway or something 😅 thankfully not the case!
Nice to hear that the Tree felling company are so responsive. Having lived in several forest's in northern Europe you can & will see things re-grow, it may be worth a limited survey of your own forest to check to see it's healthy, trees are a long term cash crop & commercial companies loathed to spend money on unnecessary work, I think you are good for the next 50 years. Cheers.
Hey. It tugs at the heart strings hey? Same happens here in Norway. You will be amazed at how quickly things start to change. They will prob re plant spruce and furu, but bjørk, ask , alm will grow so quickly. You will probably enjoy more light though.
Bit of a shock I'm sure but removing also limits risk of transferring disease, and possible floor fires. I do hope they were willing to leave a few cores of wood for you.
Wow, I hadn't even seen your footage from the damage and it made my jaw drop! Completely different seeing it like that 😮 but yes, it will be planted again and I do look forward to being able to see northern lights better 😍 and hopefully it will be full of summer flowers and butterflies 🌸☺
Yes me too! I was scared that they were going to build something there instead of replanting so I’m relieved to know, it’s not the case 🙂 And the fact that I believe they’re going to do it correctly rather than in the 60s, where they didn’t
The forests in Sweden are very young. We had the forest around our summer house cut down a couple of years ago, but now I’m kinda used to the new look. Happened to a friend of mine recently as well, and they had just bought their summer house.
Have to say again, buy the forest as soon as you can, forest is the best investment you can do, it's not rapid return, but the feeling walking in your own forest gives you the most beautiful connection to it❤
This happened where I live in Wales. A whole mountain side and Moor area. It was planted when I was born in 1964. After a few years the stumps rot and they'll plant new trees because wood is worth it.
Hi Phillip my man, I feel you there! That sucks ass 😢 But you might find it lovely to experience a forest grow rather than slowly wither. In 10 years these pine trees will be 40 feet tall already, just a hiatus really
Hi, Im Peter from sweden. I found your vlog and watched some episodes. Im glad you like it here in Sweden. It seems to be very popular right now for young foreign people to buy houses here and make vlogs over the project. There are several such new channels now. Sorry about the forests though. So what are your plans, to live here or just use the house on vacations?
Hej Peter tack så mycket för din kommenterar! Jag är super populärt just nu, jag tror att andra land har blivit för dyr för de flesta, åtminstone Storbritannien och Irland. Så jag har bott i Sverige sedan 2019 och vill spendera resten av mitt liv här. Jag har precis fått ett jobb i Karlstad som en UX designer och mitt mål är att bli helt flytande på svenska så att det är nästan omöjligt att veta jag är faktiskt engelsk 😂
Sorry Stephen, a lot has been going on in my world and I intend to upload again shortly! They will be replanting this spring and new wildlife came from the foresting so that is a silver lining!
I´m sorry that you lost the neighboring forest. Here in Sweden the forestry usually work in 70-100 year cycles. New trees will grow, and be ready for harvest for the owners grand kids... It looks sad now, but will start growing new seedlings in just a few years. Maybe you get a whole forest of raspberries in a few years. That is not so uncommon. 🙂
Thank you for the positivity! I am ok with it now in the summer as there have been so many more birds in the area for some reason, we have cranes here all the time and it is beautiful!
Hello Phillip, I hope that you have got those chimneys fixed, and that you have got enough wood for heating up your house in winter. Last winter was just awful, too much snow and too cold the whole winter. I have some friends living near the town of Åtorp on the east side of Vänern. Migth that be in your area too? Wish you luck in your futher life in the 'prairie' in Sweden. Greetings from Kenneth in Norway.
Some positive consequences of forests taken down: Directly the years after and until there is a new dense forest there (over ten years) you can pick smultron and skogshallon there 🥳🤩 (wild strawberries and forest raspberries). The seeds are already there since centuries. Cool! 😎 Shortly after the harvesting of the trees the ground is prepared during the summer for planting again. A mechanical device turns over the soil with a 2 by 2 meter pattern over the whole area. Year 3 and 4 after this during March to April when the ground dries up, you can pick a particularly sought after delicacy mushroom in those dugouts - murklor! Beware though! Those mushrooms require the correct cooking procedure not to be harmful to your kidneys (and if you eat them regularly for many years without proper handling you may experience symptoms of that). I am 68 and grew up on a diet of which murklor was an important part at special dinner occasions. My father lived to be 94 years and my mother nearly the same and murklor was reserved for special dinner occasions for us all in the family and with friends and relatives. With no kidney issues. Just saying. The wildlife experience for you will also take a turn for the better. With the new vegetation, elks, roe deers and other animals will frequently be seen from your house. I can sympathise with your feelings. After a total forest harvest it looks ugly. Really depressingly ugly. But!.. That ugliness is gone in one year and converted to a lushness of birch and other trees. Much more to say but already too long. You will enjoy the transformation in years to come. Trust me. Kind regards/A
Wow this comment is amazing thanks so much, so much information I can use! Thank you so much for taking the time to write all that, I really appreciate it!
Oh, no... I'm so sorry. Hqppened to my cousins, too, in cabin in the Colorado mountains. When those pines burned down, my cousins were left, like you, living surrounded by stumps (charred stumps in their case). But the forest grew back within ten years... Colorado pines do have cones that germinate only after fires, so regrowth was kind of guaranteed. In your case they were cut, still, surly reseeding will be done...
I was thoroughly amazed at how tidy it was compared to what i see locally! What are they going to do with the branch piles? If they do big slash burns like here, it's going to be quite smokey for a month or so (or more). Another benefit to this though, is that you've cut your wildfire risk to your property quite significantly!! This is good with the increased wildfires around the world. I live in northern British Columbia, Canada 🇨🇦, and logging and Forestry are big economic drivers here too.
The empty logged areas spread fire more rapidly as soon as bushes start to pop up. A well kept forest keeps the wind out and retains moisture. There are new EU laws that prevent this type of forestry for this reason (among others).
They will come with a second machine and pick up the piles. They will then mulch them and drive the mulch to the local bio power-heating plant where it will be burned to produce electricity, hot water and heating for the town.
@@guseks8413 that's pretty efficient! Here, the waste is often put in huge piles and then burned where it is once or twice a year (called slash burning)
Same thing happened to me, but down south. The forest I walked in for 20 years - and where my kids used to play - was turned into a wasteland in two weeks.
Thank you for the video it is really informative and I am amazed by your positivity regarding the situation. ❤ Do you guys also purchase forest land together with the house and if yes, do you might know what is the compulsory requirement for forest owner to maintain their own forest in Sweden. I am curious to know. Thank you 😊
Thank you so much I really appreciate it! We personally didn’t buy forest land with the house, but in my previous video where I give a tour of our land, I talk a little bit about owning your own forest and I’ve left a link in the description for the necessary information. Hope that helps and thanks for your support! 😊
The timber prise has changed a lot, the only way to be certain if its not a nature preserved area which often not have any houses, is to buy the forest or try buy it with the house.
Wow! It must’ve been quite the shock to see all those trees taken down. But since a lot of them actually were sick, I guess it may be a good thing to keep the forest healthier. They also seemed to be selective in which ones they took because there were “patches” of trees left behind where they were logging. Hopefully they’ve done it in a clean matter since it can be very dirty for the environment besides just taking down the trees.
While the trees takes year to grew up to a decent size. The brush and bushes will do that over summer. It stead of a forest, there will be bushes there for the coming 5-10 years. Then it slowly for the coming 10 years after that start turning back into a forest again. While the first year bushes will be quite decent in august and September, when the lose there leafs they will be basically transparent fist year. Year 2 and 3 the bushes thicken up to something that is not totally see throw in winter.
If one would buy a house/farm in sweden that has a few hectares of forest, without having any knowledge and ambition to manage that, could one give the forest rights to a management company or something that would take over all wood production in exchage for a fee or something? Basically renting the land out? Anybody have any knowledge on this?
From a Swedish who live north, talk with the landowner and try make a deal so they save a couple of rows near your house unless you want a clean cut area, it's part of sweden, if it's already taken down, then enjoy the extra sunshine and 10 years from now it's accelerated growth again(from someone commenting before seen full episode, my fault, glad see they saved some rows for your house❤ that's how it's done)
I know it looks horrible and comes like a shock to you. However, in only a couple of seasons there will be low green brush and flowers all over that area. And in a few years there will be nice small trees that guaranteed will not be cut down for at least 20-30 years. You could also plant some fast growing tall bushes near your house to cover up the view in that direction. Best / Carl
I disagree. Kalhygge looks awful for at least a decade. I pass by some regularily that were logged when I was still in school, some 20 years ago that still look like a wasteland.
The reason they were very forthcoming with you about the logging was not necessarily because they want to be nice, it's probably because you have a lot of power regarding this. The value of your property has decreased, you have some tools to cause trouble for them. On a different note, they are required by EU law to leave a certain percentage of trees after logging in order to help the diversity, so I suspect they broke the law. (Unless they sold the wood outside of EU) It's hard to say since I don't know the details, did they leave trees around the edges? Is that little patch of trees enough to comply with the law? It's likely the patch of trees was inaccessible. But the gist is that if it's completely logged then they have damaged the environment and can't sell the wood in the EU. If you were to research this and maybe raise the question with a court, you could perhaps prevent the rest of your surrounding forest to become a huge ugly scar like this one did. (they would have to take a few trees gradually over many many years, so there are trees of different ages across the forest) The rest of the forest will be logged sooner or later, it's just a matter of time. I've seen many of my favorite forests I grew up in suffer the same fate, and it breaks my heart every time. The Swedish forests may look amazing, but they are simply monoculture industries. It's really up to us to keep them on their toes if we ever want to see a change in the world.
You need to leave 5 trees for every 100x100m square. There is plenty to comply with regulations. You confuse law with fsc-certification. Furthermore you can not prosecute a landowner for harvesting his forest on the basis that the value of your neighbouring property would decrease. That is not how Swedish law works.
Hey Mary! Thanks for commenting, I have been very all over the place with some health issues, stress, and other things. I’ve just recorded a little update video about what’s been going on and what my plans are soon. I just need to edit it 😊 other than that, we are fine and making the most of the weather where possible. Thanks for catching up and I hope you are doing fantastic!
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I was just thinking when I watched and earlier video where you show the original farmland the house was on, what a shame there were so many trees. 😂 I think you’ll grow to like the open space eventually and you still have plenty of trees on the other side.
Just wanted to say that you guys should take some steps to protect your informaiton , got interested to know where you found a house for 1,3 MSEK in Sweden and took me one google search to find it, not sure if you are trying to keep it private or maybe you’ve mentioned it in a video but just watched a couple and you didn’t mention it. So just thought I let you know how easy it was to find the full address.
Thanks for your consideration, I appreciate it. Here in Sweden, that information is readily available for everyone who is a resident here and has its pros and its cons.
Imo the forests that have some deforested areas interspersed are actually quite a bit nicer. It makes for some different habitats, and such. So I don't think it will be like living in the middle of a parking lot for you guys.
Of course this is a dealbreaker ..and Im happy yuo had good conversation with the forrest owner but I am so sorry to see this unfortunatly this is happening more and more the logging is getting crazier every year and our forrests is getting smaller by the minute... and NO it's not nessecary at this rate and the wildlife is paying the price...sadly the replanting means that the trees will be the same age and there will not be any old trees anymore but Ihope you like to live in Sweden though... (sorry to be the grumpy one)
But such a blessing! Good for you. It happend with the hectare on the southside of our house too and the extra light in the garden was just great. The forest that is growing back is not nicely cleaned and so replanted like yours will be, but that's no problem for us. It came back with lots of raspberry and very dense growth of mostly birch.After six-seven years it is now around 4 till 5 meters high. Maybe the forrest company wants to sell you those few hectares around the house. With this you keep it more light and airy and you can even let a real, natural, forest grow back?
I bet you have tons of yars with Raspberry Jam now, or perhaps the bushes will start growing next year, either way, that's the upside of deforesting, Raspberry bushes will start growing like crazy
If forest is mainly monoculture it will most likely be taken down at one point. There are also advantages with getting more sun, you will see more low growth in the summer, less mosquitos and more bees/bumblebees and butterflies.
@@theNamesPhillip I've loved watching your house / grounds clips. Naturally I'd love to see more videos but your health and sanity comes first. Best of luck and wishing you well from England x
Heya, have been dealing with health issues and other things so I’ve needed to take a bit of a break with the hope of coming back soon. Sorry for the lack of uploads
In a few years, the area will be covered with impenetrable new forrest. Til then, raspberries will grow everywhere… The plants that will be set out grow slower than the wild trees and are left in order to force the plants to grow taller. After a decade or so the fast growing plants (birch e.g.) will be trimmed.
if the trees is rotting from the inside out then its likely root rot, from teh size it seems like they had to fell the trees sooner then ideal, but they kinda had to in a attempt to save the wood, infected trees rot from inside like what can be seen on lots of them, and these trees cant be sold for lumber, in the worst case, infected trees can only be sold as fuelwood, in the best of cases, infected trees can be sold as pulpwood.
0,3 percent of ALL forests in Sweden are Old-growth forest, the rest are all managed by people in one way or the other. I live in Småland and everyone are raving about the old forests in Småland not knowing that 400 years ago there were almost no forests in Småland. The same in Halland that place should be just open grasslands. The entire country is like one giant Garden.
I live in Finland and like in Sweden, here also forest industry is very significant for our economy. When Russia started their insane war in Ukraine, Europe can't bring wood from Siberia anymore - so of course it is cut elsewhere. Mainly in other northern countries with same trees like pine and spruce.
If you buy a property for the view, make sure you own the view. Don't buy a place in a forest and complain when the owner cuts it down; if you want to live in a forest, buy the forest, not only a small lot with a house.
I'm trying to understand the clear cutting down of trees and forests in Sweden. So if you buy a home , with land that is included and it has a forest on it , can the forestry dept enter your land and cut down your forest?? I totally understand if you just own a home with small yard included is your property and you don't own the forest. Then that forest will be cut down because you don't own it.
@Kim-J312 No, no one can cut down trees on land you own without permission. As a forest owner, you are responsible for creating a forest management plan for your property. Regarding my comment "buy the view," the idea is that if there is a lot between your house and a beautiful beach, you can't complain if someone builds on it and obstructs your view-you should have purchased the lot yourself to prevent this. The same principle applies if you build a house next to a forest owned by someone else. The landowner likely planted those trees decades ago as an investment, and when they are ready for harvest, you cannot expect them to forgo their return just to preserve your view. If maintaining a specific view is important to you, you should purchase the surrounding land to control how it is used, rather than relying on the goodwill of others.
@@marcus_lindgren Thank you Marcus . That is the same in the US as well, where I live. Due to the geography of where I live is very urban and my state doesn't cut down forests. Any forest areas are turned into state parks or city parks . They are considered "forest preserves" . But that is much different in heavily forest areas like in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming , Alaska ect . They have , state, national, city parks that can not be touched and private property can't be touched. But anything outside that is fair game for logging companies to clear cut
The forest will quickly regrow. Such is the cycle of life. You will be amazed at all the life that will spring up now. I have the same thing happen here in finland but these were really old trees that needed to be cut. I was grateful for the extra sunlight & openness.
Hej tack så mycket, allt går bra men jag har haft ganska mycket stress de senaste månader pga hälsoproblem och mitt jobb. Jag mår lite bättre nu och vill skapa en till video snart! Måste get the ball rolling again 😁
Hi Yes it would be so interesting to know what happened to the renovation plans, the chimney and heating system etc. Stumbled across your last video and was curious as to how it was even possible for you to live there without any proper heating during the winter.
Phillip?!?!?! Where have you gone?!?!?! I just started following your vids and now you've disappeared... LOL! I hope all is well! And I hope you will be making more vids!
Hi there Yvonne! 👋 I am hoping to get some new content out soon! I had a bit of stress health wise and then my job taking a lot of energy but I think I’m starting to feel better now 😁 thanks for checking up, I will dust off the drawing board 😅
@@theNamesPhillip Sorry to hear about your troubles, but good to hear things are looking up! 👍Take your time and heal/rest! Just wanted to be sure you hadn't fallen off the face of the Earth! 😄
I’m allowed to be flexible with my work situations, but I would try to get to the office as much as I can, because I feel like it helps to work in the environment. I’m a consultant as well so I could be working On site for another client.
So, if I got this corectly... You can buy lots of forest land to build your dream house on it and they still can come to your land and chop your dream off??? Please please corect me that I'm wrong.. If that is the case, I'm really sad about it and feel you brother...
I just want to say... If you bought it, it is yours, not company propherty, right? For example, what would happen if you put fence around it? Or at least, they should pay you for taking out your nature resources from your land. This is unimagineuble for me.. If they keep using your land and your goods from Your land, whats the point of buying it?
The forest is theirs so they have the right to take it down but even if you own forest, you have an obligation to cut down trees and maintain the area.
That's so true. Planting monocultures, and clear cutting through many decades have made a lot of generations grow up thinking that it's what forests should look like. And that's just sad.
The Swedish forestry industry is one of the reasons why we have a welfare state, it's a massive export industry plus all the commodoties like paper etc it produces. It creates jobs in rural communities and increases the value for land owners, who are often based in these communities. If we want to have renewable products, we need to have a sufficient forestry industry but at the same time it has to be sustainable.
It is not a big part of our bnp. And there are more sustainable ways of doing forestry. Maybe we should ask Finland, they are more into that type of forestry. Or else we will loose all our forests.
@@lynx.medicine You're right. It isn't a big part of our bnp but it creates value in rural communities and greater value in commodoties and building materials etc. 140 000 swedes are employed in the forestry industry all over the country. In a historical context the forestry industry is one of the reasons why we have a welfare state. It created tons of jobs before the introduction of machinery etc. If we want to transition to a renewable biobased soceity we need to have productive forests. A productive forest is also better at carbon seqestration. We won't "loose all of our forests", that's just false. SLU and skogsstyrelsen are actively studying our forests and new or better ways of conducting forestry. It's not like there aren't any regulations, there are plenty. Swedish law is written to take into account of the necessity of a prodctive forest, land owners rights and the eco system. He mentioned in the video as well that the forest had to be cut down.
@ if our forestry is so good then why are tourists actively complaining about how our nature looks nowadays? Why are there bugs destroying huge parts of the forest? There is a lot of corruption in the forestry industry and I don’t see that change is happening fast enough. We need more mixed forests and we need to leave more trees and not clearcut so big areas. It’s for the sake of wildlife too. Economy is nothing without wildlife like birds and other animals. Soon the moose will be endangered bc of loss of habitat. We need to modernize and adapt to current conditions.
@@lynx.medicine The moose is not going to be endangered because of loss of habitat... It's extensive hunting that is lowering the population from both bears and humans. I don't get why tourists opinions are to be considered valuable. They don't live here or work here. Plus the tourists I have spoken to personally say that they have never seen forests like in Sweden (the vastness). Mostly from French, German, Danish and Dutch tourists. There's plenty of people moving here to from other countries, I wonder why? Maybe because we have a lot of forests... I agree that there needs to be a change in the planning and planting of trees. But the fact is that clear cutting is the most effective. Combining spruce, birch and pine etc. My family owns land and we take care of it exceptionally well. Companies are less likely to taking care of their forests because they own 1000s of hectars, unlike most privetly owned land.
@ My family also owns land. Small private forest owners are not the problem, usually. I recommend every swede to read the book “skogslandet” for more info on the corruption that goes on. That we have the most wild forests here than any other country might be true but the wild forests (not plantations) are decreasing at an alarming rate. It’s true that hunters affect the moose as well but yeah. I guess we can agree to disagree on this.
When buying summer home or home and you want it to have forest around, you need to buy big enough plot that you can't see through the trees to neighbouring plot. Because this is what will happend everytime if you don't do this.
No thumps up this time because I´m shocked. I admire your calmness and understanding. For me it is heartbreaking - sorry. Sending you both best whishes ! (Jag bor nära Husum - inte en skog, utan kusten ;-))
haha thanks, I am working really hard on my swedish so that I sound natural and can get really native conversations! Maybe someday a podcast would be awesome!
I had a few health issues that I needed to focus on and then honestly quite a lot of stress. I’ve been recording so I have footage, just need to get the time to make the videos themselves. I’m feeling a lot better though so I do want to get back into the swing of things. I’ve edited a few but I wasn’t happy with them at all. Sorry for the lack of uploads though!
@@theNamesPhillip Having just discovered the channel tonight I was wondering about the sudden lack of content but noticed the reasons here. Hope things are picking up for you and you'll be able to continue the story soon 🤘🏻
Hi Phillip, I actively avoided buying a rural property that had plantations anywhere nearby (and/or on the boundary) here in Australia for 2 main reasons. The first is the SIGNIFICANT increase in fire risk (in the Australian climate) and the second I'd because of the bloody mess they leave when they log. (Your area seems a lot better managed).
Having said that, there is one aspect that you didn't mention and may not have considered... in my opinion, you bought that house at about just the right time. If it had already been recently logged, you may well have been put off, not having been able to see what the forest could look like. The other reason is that you will get something like 10, 15 or 20 years benefit knowing that after replanting, no one will be back to log the forest again and you get to enjoy the forest as it grows for its full lifetime before re harvesting...
A bit of selective planting on your part could add to the buffer that blocks the 'damage' you have to see in the meantime, but overall, I think you have some very considerate loggers working there! Good to see an update, look forward to seeing what's next..
Living in British Columbia 🇨🇦 ,I too noticed how TIDY that operation was! Neat piles of tree branches, and logs pulled, but no other mess and debris. Looks like the ground has hardly been eaten up by those machines like they are here!!
@@KimberlySimpson04 It is mainly done when the ground is frozen to avoid those issues :-)
@@KimberlySimpson04 A bit late, but the reason they usually pile tops and branches up here is we often make woodchips out of them for big heating plants.
@scania9786 ohh! That's using all the parts of the tree pretty effectively! Operations here in BC 🇨🇦 chip trees as well, but it depends on the purpose. Smaller trees that don't make good lumber, and waste from lumber mills go to our pulp mills to make paper products. In the town I live in, we have a couple nearby pellet mills which make wood pellets out of the chips to use in residential pellet burning fireplaces (they also make great kitty litter and emergency traction if you get stuck s somewhere in the winter!).
We do have a few biofuel plants here, which make energy/electricity out of waste wood, but at the moment they're not as popular for whatever reason (probably the cost of running and setup).
It is a joy to see a forest grow. In just a couple of years you will be amazed how it changes. ❤
Thanks for your positivity, I really love to hear it!! 😊
@@theNamesPhillipI think you will come to love it. You still have buckets of trees around but now you also have open space and will get to see different aspects of nature.
Enjoy.
And yes love it.
The forest will grow with you. 😊
Yes it will be a forest with more life then before will proably be more ritch fauna. those thick pinnetree forest are kinda dead and boring on the ground. I hope you get a much better forrest, in 5-10 year you wont recognice the place
Some positive consequences of forests taken down:
Directly the years after and until there is a new dense forest there (over ten years) you can pick smultron and skogshallon there 🥳🤩 (wild strawberries and forest raspberries). The seeds are already there since centuries.
Cool! 😎
Shortly after the harvesting of the trees the ground is prepared during the summer for planting again. A mechanical device turns over the soil with a 2 by 2 meter pattern over the whole area. Year 3 and 4 after this during March to April when the ground dries up, you can pick a particularly sought after delicacy mushroom in those dugouts - murklor!
Beware though! Those mushrooms require the correct cooking procedure not to be harmful to your kidneys (and if you eat them regularly for many years without proper handling you may experience symptoms of that).
I am 68 and grew up on a diet of which murklor was an important part at special dinner occasions. My father lived to be 94 years and my mother nearly the same and murklor was reserved for special dinner occasions for us all in the family and with friends and relatives. With no kidney issues. Just saying.
The wildlife experience for you will also take a turn for the better. With the new vegetation, elks, roe deers and other animals will frequently be seen from your house.
I can sympathise with your feelings. After a total forest harvest it looks ugly. Really depressingly ugly.
But!..
That ugliness is gone in one year and converted to a lushness of birch and other trees.
Much more to say but already too long.
You will enjoy the transformation in years to come. Trust me.
Kind regards/A
@@AA-iq6ev in 5-10 years you get some bushes and young trees. Hardly a forest.
Brings back the memory as a kid in Sweden getting to plant new trees in newly cut areas. It was awesome, a lot of work but great and educational.
Your positivity is just what I expected ❤ the trees will grow back and you and Merja have so many plans to support your local wildlife and plantlife. I am picturing the dr Dolittle scene in my head and Snowwhite washing dishes scene 🤣 xxx
"here is my hand for scale" made me laugh :D
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The forest around our summer cottage in Värmland (Sweden as well) got cut down a few years ago. It annoyed me at first, but I got used to it in no-time. There are even a few positives!
a) Rasberries! They love deforrested areas.
b) Wild life! You get to see so much animals traveling across the suddenly open areas
c) Regrowth. It's amazing to see how nature reclaims the deforrested landscape.
d) More sun during the winter season.
I was going to post about wild raspberries and lingonberries. Both love the newly cut grounds.
@Divig True! All the red yummies! 😃 Even smultron (what are they called in English? Mini-strawberries?) may find its way there.
@@the-nomad-show wild strawberries! I forgot about those. Yeah they might come as well. (And why are they called wild strawberries? They taste nothing like strawberries.)
@@DivigThey are the original strawberries. The big things in the shop is a hybrid with American plants.
When You’ll make another video man? I’m looking forward to it!😁🙏
Greetings from Czech Republic 🇨🇿❤️
Very soon! I have been going through some things that have taken a while but I’m working on it now! 😁
Looking forward to an update😊@@theNamesPhillip
Hello I enjoyed this video about the forest, it's good that you were able to find out about the future of the forest. I'm wishing you best of luck with the out come of it all. Looking forward to the next video.
Thank you very much!! 😁
I believe the majority of people watching videos of vast forest taken somewhere in Europe are not aware that most forest are under active management and will be logged sometime in the future. Unless they are under some form of protection. But anyway, the majority of forest in Sweden are plantations for harvest and treated that way. You might find it shocking but it's a simple matter of demand for wood and wood products, which make us all responsible. On the other hand, if you buy a property near state owned forests, it's a pretty safe bet that these won't be sold for housing or any other land use. So while it might be loud and messy when forest parts gets logged every now and then, trees will be replanted. If you buy a property in some sort of a protected area, be it N2000 or a landscape park, you will have regulations imposed on your property regarding building and management, down to fances and building pathways. So there are always pros and cons. One thing that is possible on state owned land vs private forest is to petition for taking some parts out of active management due to the presence of rare protected species. Not easy to get it done though and will only save some smaller patches. But it's worthwhile to check your area for such species. Not sure how this applies to privately owned forests, though.
I totally agree with you. When we purchased our own farm land in Slovenia, which belongs to N2000 protected area and species, we also have to sign paper of law of regulations that we will follows the orders and don’t do something harmful to the protected lands area. And they have an endless list of what to do and what NOT to do 😂
Could not have said it better👍
The demand for wood is actually paper boxes for online shopping. And they even fell the protected forests TOO. Against the law. It is not natural or normal. Cutting down every tree in an area like that is extremely unsustainable as it causes loss of habitat and death for certain species, it causes nutrients to leave the soil and end up in lakes and the sea causing dead ocean beds due to too much nutrients. This type of forestry is a product of very poorly educated people running this type of modern unsustainable forestry.
This type of logging is UNSUSTAINABLE and causes lack of biological diversity and species death
It's at least 95% of the "forests" in Sweden that are clear-cut and planted. So they are not forests in an ecological sense. They are mono culture plantations, and it's because of the "management" the bark beetle runs rampant.
It's even an law that you have to clear cut the forest you own.
I had a friend whom lived near forestry and whenever the forest needed some trimming the foresters apologized for the uppcomming noice in advanced and asked if they would be sad if they accidentally dropped some logs on their yard. The last part was basically, from what I understand, a question of wether or not they had a wood burner or fireplace and wanted some spare trees that would be inconvenient and unprofitable to move. Basically they got a year or two worth of firewood. In my experience people in the forest industry are super friendly.
I definitely need try work on adopting your mindset about the whole situation. When you were talking about how there's really nothing you can do about the fact that it's happening and that you just need to control your reaction to it, it really resonated with me. We live in Ireland, and I think that most people are aware of how severe our housing crisis is. We bought a house in the midlands two years ago and the back of our home looks out over a green and then just miles of forrest behind it. They've started to built a row of 3 storey terraces on the otherside of the green, so we'll never have that forrest view again once the houses are up. I'm devastated and angry about it, but it is what it is. I'll take your mindset and try to absorb it deep into my soul for the next time I hear construction sounds.
Great video. I'm sorry they cut everything down, but at least you'll get to experience the lifecycle of a forrest from the start, which will be magnificent.
Sweden live on mines and forrests. Not much other industries left...
In Latvia, when such fellings are carried out, the forest is cleaned up, and a new stand is planted, in about 4-5 years the trees stretch out considerably.
I will definitely look forward to 4 years time when we get to see a baby forest starting to grow 😁
Will be interesting to see what understory growth pops up now that light will be hitting the ground. Amazing what is lying dormant in the soil waiting for woodland to be cleared.
Nice to see that they are trying to leave you a screen to protect your view.
I’m hoping for a lot of edible mushrooms, that would be a great outcome! 😅
@@theNamesPhillip 🍄🍄😆
Hello Phillip! Just stumbled on your channel and seen the last few video,s about the house and the property! I hope you make an update video soon! It would be nice to see it all in spring time! Greetings from Holland!
Thanks for the positive comment! I will be making a video shortly, life has been very hectic but they are getting a little easier now 😁
I should imagine going into a Swedish company is quite difficult for a non Swede. Give yourself time to adjust.
As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day!
Take advantage of the space where the trees have come down. Wild flowers etc will grow in the light which will be lovely to walk in when spring comes.
It has definitely been a challenge but something I’ve wanted to do for such a long time so that I can really start to assimilate. The company I work for being amazing about it as well and have enrolled me into a program in order to get my Swedish to a fluent level which is unbelievable to me 😁
That is definitely the best way you could possibly look at it , thanks for that positivity!! 😊
Like other had said, ones they are planted it will grow in no-time. When I started hunting, one area was replanted just two years prior and I've been sitting in a small hunting tower for three years now and I cannot see over the tops anymore. Pine grows very fast, around two-three feet per year and the nice thing about it growing is that it's not going to be cut down again in 70-100 years in the northern parts of Sweden. Unless you get very old, you'll only have this clear-felled area once in your lifetime and you and your kids will enjoy the same forest together, that's a heart warming thought in my opinion. Also, there will be a lot of wildlife once it's replanted, you will see so much animals fall and spring time to come. Keep the morale up, the forest will be back in no time!
I'm not 100% sure how it's done in Sweden, but I'd imagine it's similar to forestry in Finland, where the landowner only gets the full payment for the timber until they've replanted the area. In Finland and Sweden, almost all forests are managed, so you can expect any forest to be cut down every 50 years or so. Some modernisation is coming into how forests are kept, mainly how large areas can be clear-cut at once, continuous felling (where you essentially keep trees in all stages of growth instead of planting a large area all at once) etc. However, in your case, where there's a parasite issue, they generally need to fell large areas to save neighbouring forests, esp. a certain fungi that can infect the root systems of pine trees and wipe out hundreds of hectares in short order.
That’s a good reminder. Our family have a small house in the woods for decades, and one day we drive there the forest was just gone. Didn’t know anything, quite the surprise. But part of life cycle in Swedish forest.
You can see from the patern that this was a planted forest, this means it was always planned to be taken down. Sweden is 4th biggest exporter of timber in the world. With a higher export than large countries like Brazil and Russia. This is one of the original industries that built the wealth of Sweden.
Love your show, will continue to follow your Swedidmsh journey. Best wishes and be safe. Tom in Minneapolis where we have lots of Swedish and Norwegian folks.
I hope everything is alright, and that your video production will continue! Greetings from Finland
kiitos paljon! I will pick everything back up soon, I’m looking forward to it!
Hi Philip! Don't be too upset about the felling of the forest - you'll see that in the first few years afterwards there will be SO MUCH RASPBERRIES there. And blackberries. Well at least that's what happens in Småland, anyway, I don't know for sure further north where you are. But I bet it's the same. So you'll have memorable times with your family there, just picking raspberries for hours and hours!
Thanks once again for another informative video with sound advice for us house hunting souls. Also, so pleased the company were so accommodating and supplied reassurances regarding no infrastructure etc and are replanting the forest, this time hopefully a healthy stock and well maintained one. If that was the UK you know you'd have a housing estate going up and a dual carriageway by next week at the bottom of your garden 😔
Thanks so much! Yes they are great and that was my first thought as well, oh no they’re going to make a high speed railway or something 😅 thankfully not the case!
Nice to hear that the Tree felling company are so responsive. Having lived in several forest's in northern Europe you can & will see things re-grow, it may be worth a limited survey of your own forest to check to see it's healthy, trees are a long term cash crop & commercial companies loathed to spend money on unnecessary work, I think you are good for the next 50 years. Cheers.
Hey. It tugs at the heart strings hey? Same happens here in Norway. You will be amazed at how quickly things start to change. They will prob re plant spruce and furu, but bjørk, ask , alm will grow so quickly. You will probably enjoy more light though.
Bit of a shock I'm sure but removing also limits risk of transferring disease, and possible floor fires.
I do hope they were willing to leave a few cores of wood for you.
Yes, it’s a bit sweet feeling! Oh, I really hope so too 😂
Phillip, I just discovered your channel and I love the videos! 😮😃👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻… where in Sweden are you? Are you near Värmland?
Hey, I’m in Värmland 😁
Wow, I hadn't even seen your footage from the damage and it made my jaw drop! Completely different seeing it like that 😮 but yes, it will be planted again and I do look forward to being able to see northern lights better 😍 and hopefully it will be full of summer flowers and butterflies 🌸☺
Oh yeah I forgot to show it 😅 and mushrooms 🍄!!!
My mom owns forest. Our family gathers and plant new trees when the workers have come and taken the old ones.
Hi Philip, are you planning to create more videos? I just found your channel recently and I really enjoy watching it. Hope you will continue 😊
Hi there, I just released an update, sorry for the delay 😁
So glad they are going to plant trees in that area
Yes me too! I was scared that they were going to build something there instead of replanting so I’m relieved to know, it’s not the case 🙂 And the fact that I believe they’re going to do it correctly rather than in the 60s, where they didn’t
The forests in Sweden are very young. We had the forest around our summer house cut down a couple of years ago, but now I’m kinda used to the new look. Happened to a friend of mine recently as well, and they had just bought their summer house.
Have to say again, buy the forest as soon as you can, forest is the best investment you can do, it's not rapid return, but the feeling walking in your own forest gives you the most beautiful connection to it❤
That was really honest and informative. Thank you.
This happened where I live in Wales. A whole mountain side and Moor area. It was planted when I was born in 1964. After a few years the stumps rot and they'll plant new trees because wood is worth it.
Stress and fear is one of the most common things in Sweden witch lead to depression and burn out.
Hi Phillip my man, I feel you there! That sucks ass 😢 But you might find it lovely to experience a forest grow rather than slowly wither. In 10 years these pine trees will be 40 feet tall already, just a hiatus really
Hi, Im Peter from sweden. I found your vlog and watched some episodes. Im glad you like it here in Sweden. It seems to be very popular right now for young foreign people to buy houses here and make vlogs over the project. There are several such new channels now. Sorry about the forests though.
So what are your plans, to live here or just use the house on vacations?
Hej Peter tack så mycket för din kommenterar! Jag är super populärt just nu, jag tror att andra land har blivit för dyr för de flesta, åtminstone Storbritannien och Irland. Så jag har bott i Sverige sedan 2019 och vill spendera resten av mitt liv här. Jag har precis fått ett jobb i Karlstad som en UX designer och mitt mål är att bli helt flytande på svenska så att det är nästan omöjligt att veta jag är faktiskt engelsk 😂
@@theNamesPhillip Hej, tack för ditt svar. Ska bli kul att följa din vlogg. Ha det bra i Värmland.
I enjoyed your initial videos, but what happened next?
Sorry Stephen, a lot has been going on in my world and I intend to upload again shortly! They will be replanting this spring and new wildlife came from the foresting so that is a silver lining!
I´m sorry that you lost the neighboring forest. Here in Sweden the forestry usually work in 70-100 year cycles. New trees will grow, and be ready for harvest for the owners grand kids... It looks sad now, but will start growing new seedlings in just a few years. Maybe you get a whole forest of raspberries in a few years. That is not so uncommon. 🙂
Thank you for the positivity! I am ok with it now in the summer as there have been so many more birds in the area for some reason, we have cranes here all the time and it is beautiful!
And mushrooms…
Hello Phillip, I hope that you have got those chimneys fixed, and that you have got enough wood for heating up your house in winter. Last winter was just awful, too much snow and too cold the whole winter. I have some friends living near the town of Åtorp on the east side of Vänern. Migth that be in your area too? Wish you luck in your futher life in the 'prairie' in Sweden. Greetings from Kenneth in Norway.
Some positive consequences of forests taken down:
Directly the years after and until there is a new dense forest there (over ten years) you can pick smultron and skogshallon there 🥳🤩 (wild strawberries and forest raspberries). The seeds are already there since centuries.
Cool! 😎
Shortly after the harvesting of the trees the ground is prepared during the summer for planting again. A mechanical device turns over the soil with a 2 by 2 meter pattern over the whole area. Year 3 and 4 after this during March to April when the ground dries up, you can pick a particularly sought after delicacy mushroom in those dugouts - murklor!
Beware though! Those mushrooms require the correct cooking procedure not to be harmful to your kidneys (and if you eat them regularly for many years without proper handling you may experience symptoms of that).
I am 68 and grew up on a diet of which murklor was an important part at special dinner occasions. My father lived to be 94 years and my mother nearly the same and murklor was reserved for special dinner occasions for us all in the family and with friends and relatives. With no kidney issues. Just saying.
The wildlife experience for you will also take a turn for the better. With the new vegetation, elks, roe deers and other animals will frequently be seen from your house.
I can sympathise with your feelings. After a total forest harvest it looks ugly. Really depressingly ugly.
But!..
That ugliness is gone in one year and converted to a lushness of birch and other trees.
Much more to say but already too long.
You will enjoy the transformation in years to come. Trust me.
Kind regards/A
Wow this comment is amazing thanks so much, so much information I can use! Thank you so much for taking the time to write all that, I really appreciate it!
Oh, no... I'm so sorry. Hqppened to my cousins, too, in cabin in the Colorado mountains. When those pines burned down, my cousins were left, like you, living surrounded by stumps (charred stumps in their case). But the forest grew back within ten years... Colorado pines do have cones that germinate only after fires, so regrowth was kind of guaranteed. In your case they were cut, still, surly reseeding will be done...
Im glad they’re ok, that would be terrifying! Wow I didn’t know that, that’s incredible! Yep they said they will begin replanting in spring 2025 😁
I was thoroughly amazed at how tidy it was compared to what i see locally! What are they going to do with the branch piles? If they do big slash burns like here, it's going to be quite smokey for a month or so (or more).
Another benefit to this though, is that you've cut your wildfire risk to your property quite significantly!! This is good with the increased wildfires around the world.
I live in northern British Columbia, Canada 🇨🇦, and logging and Forestry are big economic drivers here too.
The empty logged areas spread fire more rapidly as soon as bushes start to pop up. A well kept forest keeps the wind out and retains moisture. There are new EU laws that prevent this type of forestry for this reason (among others).
They will come with a second machine and pick up the piles. They will then mulch them and drive the mulch to the local bio power-heating plant where it will be burned to produce electricity, hot water and heating for the town.
@@guseks8413 that's pretty efficient! Here, the waste is often put in huge piles and then burned where it is once or twice a year (called slash burning)
Looking forward to see what happens in the future :)
Just curious, do they provide firewood at a reduced rate? The longs that can't be milled for example?
I don't know actually, it is something I will check up though!
Same thing happened to me, but down south. The forest I walked in for 20 years - and where my kids used to play - was turned into a wasteland in two weeks.
Thank you for the video it is really informative and I am amazed by your positivity regarding the situation. ❤
Do you guys also purchase forest land together with the house and if yes, do you might know what is the compulsory requirement for forest owner to maintain their own forest in Sweden. I am curious to know. Thank you 😊
Thank you so much I really appreciate it! We personally didn’t buy forest land with the house, but in my previous video where I give a tour of our land, I talk a little bit about owning your own forest and I’ve left a link in the description for the necessary information. Hope that helps and thanks for your support! 😊
The timber prise has changed a lot, the only way to be certain if its not a nature preserved area which often not have any houses, is to buy the forest or try buy it with the house.
Wow! It must’ve been quite the shock to see all those trees taken down. But since a lot of them actually were sick, I guess it may be a good thing to keep the forest healthier. They also seemed to be selective in which ones they took because there were “patches” of trees left behind where they were logging. Hopefully they’ve done it in a clean matter since it can be very dirty for the environment besides just taking down the trees.
While the trees takes year to grew up to a decent size. The brush and bushes will do that over summer. It stead of a forest, there will be bushes there for the coming 5-10 years. Then it slowly for the coming 10 years after that start turning back into a forest again.
While the first year bushes will be quite decent in august and September, when the lose there leafs they will be basically transparent fist year. Year 2 and 3 the bushes thicken up to something that is not totally see throw in winter.
If one would buy a house/farm in sweden that has a few hectares of forest, without having any knowledge and ambition to manage that, could one give the forest rights to a management company or something that would take over all wood production in exchage for a fee or something? Basically renting the land out?
Anybody have any knowledge on this?
I’m sure that is possible but I have no experience of this.
What's happening with your house and the forest? Would love to see another update video ❤
From a Swedish who live north, talk with the landowner and try make a deal so they save a couple of rows near your house unless you want a clean cut area, it's part of sweden, if it's already taken down, then enjoy the extra sunshine and 10 years from now it's accelerated growth again(from someone commenting before seen full episode, my fault, glad see they saved some rows for your house❤ that's how it's done)
he already addressed that in the video.
We had lots of problems with barkborre and you have to cut down infested trees.
Probably won't be as much spruce planted as before, which means brighter and more varied forest
Bark borer
I know it looks horrible and comes like a shock to you. However, in only a couple of seasons there will be low green brush and flowers all over that area.
And in a few years there will be nice small trees that guaranteed will not be cut down for at least 20-30 years.
You could also plant some fast growing tall bushes near your house to cover up the view in that direction.
Best / Carl
That’s a great idea and thanks Carl for the positive vibes!
I disagree. Kalhygge looks awful for at least a decade. I pass by some regularily that were logged when I was still in school, some 20 years ago that still look like a wasteland.
@@theNamesPhillipand there will be lingon and wild raspberries. Lots of animals as well.
The reason they were very forthcoming with you about the logging was not necessarily because they want to be nice, it's probably because you have a lot of power regarding this. The value of your property has decreased, you have some tools to cause trouble for them.
On a different note, they are required by EU law to leave a certain percentage of trees after logging in order to help the diversity, so I suspect they broke the law. (Unless they sold the wood outside of EU) It's hard to say since I don't know the details, did they leave trees around the edges? Is that little patch of trees enough to comply with the law? It's likely the patch of trees was inaccessible. But the gist is that if it's completely logged then they have damaged the environment and can't sell the wood in the EU. If you were to research this and maybe raise the question with a court, you could perhaps prevent the rest of your surrounding forest to become a huge ugly scar like this one did. (they would have to take a few trees gradually over many many years, so there are trees of different ages across the forest)
The rest of the forest will be logged sooner or later, it's just a matter of time. I've seen many of my favorite forests I grew up in suffer the same fate, and it breaks my heart every time. The Swedish forests may look amazing, but they are simply monoculture industries. It's really up to us to keep them on their toes if we ever want to see a change in the world.
You need to leave 5 trees for every 100x100m square. There is plenty to comply with regulations. You confuse law with fsc-certification.
Furthermore you can not prosecute a landowner for harvesting his forest on the basis that the value of your neighbouring property would decrease. That is not how Swedish law works.
Why have you not been posting???where are and how are you all doing???
Hey Mary! Thanks for commenting, I have been very all over the place with some health issues, stress, and other things. I’ve just recorded a little update video about what’s been going on and what my plans are soon. I just need to edit it 😊 other than that, we are fine and making the most of the weather where possible. Thanks for catching up and I hope you are doing fantastic!
all the best, hope you‘ll be able to make videos again soon.
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I was just thinking when I watched and earlier video where you show the original farmland the house was on, what a shame there were so many trees. 😂 I think you’ll grow to like the open space eventually and you still have plenty of trees on the other side.
Just wanted to say that you guys should take some steps to protect your informaiton , got interested to know where you found a house for 1,3 MSEK in Sweden and took me one google search to find it, not sure if you are trying to keep it private or maybe you’ve mentioned it in a video but just watched a couple and you didn’t mention it. So just thought I let you know how easy it was to find the full address.
Thanks for your consideration, I appreciate it. Here in Sweden, that information is readily available for everyone who is a resident here and has its pros and its cons.
Seems it was'nt a wood in the first place, just a field of timber...
Imo the forests that have some deforested areas interspersed are actually quite a bit nicer. It makes for some different habitats, and such. So I don't think it will be like living in the middle of a parking lot for you guys.
Of course this is a dealbreaker ..and Im happy yuo had good conversation with the forrest owner but I am so sorry to see this unfortunatly this is happening more and more the logging is getting crazier every year and our forrests is getting smaller by the minute... and NO it's not nessecary at this rate and the wildlife is paying the price...sadly the replanting means that the trees will be the same age and there will not be any old trees anymore but Ihope you like to live in Sweden though... (sorry to be the grumpy one)
But such a blessing! Good for you. It happend with the hectare on the southside of our house too and the extra light in the garden was just great. The forest that is growing back is not nicely cleaned and so replanted like yours will be, but that's no problem for us. It came back with lots of raspberry and very dense growth of mostly birch.After six-seven years it is now around 4 till 5 meters high. Maybe the forrest company wants to sell you those few hectares around the house. With this you keep it more light and airy and you can even let a real, natural, forest grow back?
Well a positive thing is that they won't cutting the forest down in the next few years😊
will you take up hunting? very popular in swedish countryside and you get closer to the rural community
I am facing similar challenges (in SE Sweden). Where approx. is this (landscape?)?
Värmland
I bet you have tons of yars with Raspberry Jam now, or perhaps the bushes will start growing next year, either way, that's the upside of deforesting, Raspberry bushes will start growing like crazy
If forest is mainly monoculture it will most likely be taken down at one point. There are also advantages with getting more sun, you will see more low growth in the summer, less mosquitos and more bees/bumblebees and butterflies.
I will wait patiently for the next 20 years for the 'Watch our forest grow' time lapse video 🤪 Also, "here's my hand for scale"🤣
That’s going to be one heck of a livestream 😂
We need an update, how's it all going!
Will update shortly! I plan on getting back into making videos, just had some health things to deal with :)
@@theNamesPhillip I've loved watching your house / grounds clips. Naturally I'd love to see more videos but your health and sanity comes first. Best of luck and wishing you well from England x
Anyone know why there is no more new videos?
Heya, have been dealing with health issues and other things so I’ve needed to take a bit of a break with the hope of coming back soon. Sorry for the lack of uploads
In a few years, the area will be covered with impenetrable new forrest. Til then, raspberries will grow everywhere…
The plants that will be set out grow slower than the wild trees and are left in order to force the plants to grow taller. After a decade or so the fast growing plants (birch e.g.) will be trimmed.
Thanks for the comment, it makes me feel a lot better about the situation!
@@theNamesPhillip been there… you will soon not miss the old plantation style “forrest” were all trees are the same type and age.
if the trees is rotting from the inside out then its likely root rot, from teh size it seems like they had to fell the trees sooner then ideal, but they kinda had to in a attempt to save the wood, infected trees rot from inside like what can be seen on lots of them, and these trees cant be sold for lumber, in the worst case, infected trees can only be sold as fuelwood, in the best of cases, infected trees can be sold as pulpwood.
Welcome to sweden, the forests are basically just production sites for Amazon future boxes
0,3 percent of ALL forests in Sweden are Old-growth forest, the rest are all managed by people in one way or the other.
I live in Småland and everyone are raving about the old forests in Småland not knowing that 400 years ago there were almost no forests in Småland.
The same in Halland that place should be just open grasslands.
The entire country is like one giant Garden.
There is, of course, an online map to look at to see all the planned felling of forests
your voice is so soothing and love to watch u :D
Thanks so much! 🙏
I live in Finland and like in Sweden, here also forest industry is very significant for our economy. When Russia started their insane war in Ukraine, Europe can't bring wood from Siberia anymore - so of course it is cut elsewhere. Mainly in other northern countries with same trees like pine and spruce.
If you buy a property for the view, make sure you own the view. Don't buy a place in a forest and complain when the owner cuts it down; if you want to live in a forest, buy the forest, not only a small lot with a house.
Noted, I’ll do that next time 😁
I'm trying to understand the clear cutting down of trees and forests in Sweden. So if you buy a home , with land that is included and it has a forest on it , can the forestry dept enter your land and cut down your forest?? I totally understand if you just own a home with small yard included is your property and you don't own the forest. Then that forest will be cut down because you don't own it.
@Kim-J312 No, no one can cut down trees on land you own without permission. As a forest owner, you are responsible for creating a forest management plan for your property.
Regarding my comment "buy the view," the idea is that if there is a lot between your house and a beautiful beach, you can't complain if someone builds on it and obstructs your view-you should have purchased the lot yourself to prevent this.
The same principle applies if you build a house next to a forest owned by someone else. The landowner likely planted those trees decades ago as an investment, and when they are ready for harvest, you cannot expect them to forgo their return just to preserve your view. If maintaining a specific view is important to you, you should purchase the surrounding land to control how it is used, rather than relying on the goodwill of others.
@@marcus_lindgren Thank you Marcus . That is the same in the US as well, where I live. Due to the geography of where I live is very urban and my state doesn't cut down forests. Any forest areas are turned into state parks or city parks . They are considered "forest preserves" . But that is much different in heavily forest areas like in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming , Alaska ect . They have , state, national, city parks that can not be touched and private property can't be touched. But anything outside that is fair game for logging companies to clear cut
The forest will quickly regrow. Such is the cycle of life. You will be amazed at all the life that will spring up now. I have the same thing happen here in finland but these were really old trees that needed to be cut. I was grateful for the extra sunlight & openness.
Hej, hoppas allt är bra och att man får se en ny video nån gång snart, ha det bäst!
Hej tack så mycket, allt går bra men jag har haft ganska mycket stress de senaste månader pga hälsoproblem och mitt jobb. Jag mår lite bättre nu och vill skapa en till video snart! Måste get the ball rolling again 😁
Hi
Yes it would be so interesting to know what happened to the renovation plans, the chimney and heating system etc. Stumbled across your last video and was curious as to how it was even possible for you to live there without any proper heating during the winter.
Phillip?!?!?! Where have you gone?!?!?! I just started following your vids and now you've disappeared... LOL! I hope all is well! And I hope you will be making more vids!
Hi there Yvonne! 👋 I am hoping to get some new content out soon! I had a bit of stress health wise and then my job taking a lot of energy but I think I’m starting to feel better now 😁 thanks for checking up, I will dust off the drawing board 😅
@@theNamesPhillip Sorry to hear about your troubles, but good to hear things are looking up! 👍Take your time and heal/rest! Just wanted to be sure you hadn't fallen off the face of the Earth! 😄
What now? Any update?
Update posted, sorry for the delay
Think of the forest as if it was a farmers field. When the crop is fullgrown the farmer harvest it. In 10 years the new trees will be about 2 m high🙂
I am back wondering why u haven’t posting? Asking again.
Sorry I was dealing with health issues and had to focus on recovering. I’ve released an update now.
Will you have to go to the office every day?
I’m allowed to be flexible with my work situations, but I would try to get to the office as much as I can, because I feel like it helps to work in the environment. I’m a consultant as well so I could be working On site for another client.
@@theNamesPhillip I do ux too and I’m Irish in USA.
So, if I got this corectly...
You can buy lots of forest land
to build your dream house on it and they still can come to your land and chop your dream off???
Please please corect me that I'm wrong..
If that is the case, I'm really sad about it and feel you brother...
I just want to say... If you bought it, it is yours, not company propherty, right?
For example, what would happen if you put fence around it?
Or at least, they should pay you for taking out your nature resources from your land.
This is unimagineuble for me..
If they keep using your land and your goods from Your land, whats the point of buying it?
The forest is theirs so they have the right to take it down but even if you own forest, you have an obligation to cut down trees and maintain the area.
Common missconseption in sweden. ”Granåker” is not ”skog”
That's so true. Planting monocultures, and clear cutting through many decades have made a lot of generations grow up thinking that it's what forests should look like. And that's just sad.
The Swedish forestry industry is one of the reasons why we have a welfare state, it's a massive export industry plus all the commodoties like paper etc it produces. It creates jobs in rural communities and increases the value for land owners, who are often based in these communities. If we want to have renewable products, we need to have a sufficient forestry industry but at the same time it has to be sustainable.
It is not a big part of our bnp. And there are more sustainable ways of doing forestry. Maybe we should ask Finland, they are more into that type of forestry. Or else we will loose all our forests.
@@lynx.medicine You're right. It isn't a big part of our bnp but it creates value in rural communities and greater value in commodoties and building materials etc. 140 000 swedes are employed in the forestry industry all over the country.
In a historical context the forestry industry is one of the reasons why we have a welfare state. It created tons of jobs before the introduction of machinery etc.
If we want to transition to a renewable biobased soceity we need to have productive forests. A productive forest is also better at carbon seqestration. We won't "loose all of our forests", that's just false. SLU and skogsstyrelsen are actively studying our forests and new or better ways of conducting forestry.
It's not like there aren't any regulations, there are plenty. Swedish law is written to take into account of the necessity of a prodctive forest, land owners rights and the eco system. He mentioned in the video as well that the forest had to be cut down.
@ if our forestry is so good then why are tourists actively complaining about how our nature looks nowadays? Why are there bugs destroying huge parts of the forest? There is a lot of corruption in the forestry industry and I don’t see that change is happening fast enough. We need more mixed forests and we need to leave more trees and not clearcut so big areas. It’s for the sake of wildlife too. Economy is nothing without wildlife like birds and other animals. Soon the moose will be endangered bc of loss of habitat. We need to modernize and adapt to current conditions.
@@lynx.medicine The moose is not going to be endangered because of loss of habitat... It's extensive hunting that is lowering the population from both bears and humans.
I don't get why tourists opinions are to be considered valuable. They don't live here or work here. Plus the tourists I have spoken to personally say that they have never seen forests like in Sweden (the vastness). Mostly from French, German, Danish and Dutch tourists. There's plenty of people moving here to from other countries, I wonder why? Maybe because we have a lot of forests...
I agree that there needs to be a change in the planning and planting of trees. But the fact is that clear cutting is the most effective. Combining spruce, birch and pine etc.
My family owns land and we take care of it exceptionally well. Companies are less likely to taking care of their forests because they own 1000s of hectars, unlike most privetly owned land.
@ My family also owns land. Small private forest owners are not the problem, usually. I recommend every swede to read the book “skogslandet” for more info on the corruption that goes on. That we have the most wild forests here than any other country might be true but the wild forests (not plantations) are decreasing at an alarming rate. It’s true that hunters affect the moose as well but yeah. I guess we can agree to disagree on this.
When buying summer home or home and you want it to have forest around, you need to buy big enough plot that you can't see through the trees to neighbouring plot. Because this is what will happend everytime if you don't do this.
There will be a greater variety of grasses,berries and wildflowers there now, it will be to your liking in a year or two
Part of life “let go and welcome the new” … nobody wants sick trees on their land … ❤
Wow, what a big hand!
😂😂
No thumps up this time because I´m shocked. I admire your calmness and understanding.
For me it is heartbreaking - sorry. Sending you both best whishes ! (Jag bor nära Husum -
inte en skog, utan kusten ;-))
Thank you and I totally understand, it is definitely surprising! Thanks for the support! Åh superfint, inga problem med skogen då 😅
You sound so Swedish when you pronounce Swedish words. You even have the Swedish twang when you speak English. You should do podcasts!
haha thanks, I am working really hard on my swedish so that I sound natural and can get really native conversations! Maybe someday a podcast would be awesome!
Why no uploads?
I had a few health issues that I needed to focus on and then honestly quite a lot of stress. I’ve been recording so I have footage, just need to get the time to make the videos themselves. I’m feeling a lot better though so I do want to get back into the swing of things. I’ve edited a few but I wasn’t happy with them at all. Sorry for the lack of uploads though!
@@theNamesPhillip thanks for responding! Yeah look after yourself, totally understandable, health is No 1 priority always. All the best
@@theNamesPhillip Having just discovered the channel tonight I was wondering about the sudden lack of content but noticed the reasons here. Hope things are picking up for you and you'll be able to continue the story soon 🤘🏻
the damage?? noooo its normal i Sweden.. sweden have alots of forrest and woods