Sublimation Printers Explained - Sawgrass vs Epson
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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In this video, I will explain the advantages and disadvantages of both sublimation printer brands and which one we recommend and why.
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:25 Converted Printers
1:12 Sawgrass Intro and Cost
1:32 Sawgrass 500
2:00 Sawgrass 1000
2:25 Sawgrass Benefits
4:20 Sawgrass Pro: Creative Studio
5:00 Sawgrass Con: Ink Cost
5:30 Sawgrass Con: Paper Jams
6:21 Epson Introduction
6:55 Epson Pro: Ink Cost
7:20 Epson Pro: Print Size Capabilities
7:52 Epson RIP Software
8:50 Epson Con: Cutting Paper
9:30 Epson Con: Bluetooth Range
9:54 Our Recommendation
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Thank you for this clear and concise video. It was extremely helpful. I Have watched many videos with information about these 2 printers and yours was the one to help me make the final decision. I just purchased the the epson sure color 170. Hopefully, in the future I will be able to upgrade!
That is exciting!! So glad this helped you!
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you!
Thank you, that was so helpful
I'm so glad! 🙂
Thanks for the video. The most important thing has been forgotten in the list of disadvantages of the Epson printer. A decisive factor, as known in photography, is the frame management. That is, the color reproduction. This is definitely better with the Sawgrass printers. Unfortunately, this is no longer a matter of taste when a turquoise color is displayed as a normal green. Of course, you have to consider what you can do without and what your personal advantages are. However, I consider color management to be indispensable.
Only 4 mins in and already so glad I am watching...
Thank you for sharing. I didn't know that Epson made a sublimation printer. I was headed for the Sawgrass. I'll more research and compare. 'Preciate it.
What is the difference in maintenance between the two?
thank you. I too have the F170, love it. By the way, its 399 and comes with full bottles of ink. It doesn't dry out if it goes unused for a while. I've went months with no issues. The print outs are fantastic. You can print up to 47.2 in length. I've only found the sublimation roll paper 8.5 wide from one place and it works great and saves lots of money. For really important things I only use Epson's paper. It also works great. I do agree with you on the ink. No matter what printer you get, stick with the correct ink. When I upgrade to a bigger one, it will be the Epson F540. I love that it uses the same ink as the F170 too. Thank you for a great and accurate video.
Have you tried dtf with the F170?
@@conniemartin7217 I have not. I'm tempted but right now I'm trying to get a good handle on sublimation in general. Plus, I just ordered the F570. I love my F170 but wanted to get larger prints and since I hopefully will be retiring in a year so I want to get what I want and have it paid off first. I'm going to sell the F170 only because I don't have the space for it and can't justify keeping it at this time.
@@judyromano5088hi Judy! Have you sold it yet? I’m interested if not.:) lmk.
Thank you 🙏
thx for sharing
thanks for sharing
Thanks
Thank you for the video and straight forward views, I had to toss my Epson printer so I’m a little skeptical of Epson. Has Epson given you any clogging issues?
Great video and great information. I am currently working with a converted Epson and hate it. My printer pin wheels and get streaks far too often. Among other problems. I am in the process of purchasing a sublimation printer. Like everyone I am on the fence between the Sawgrass and Epson. Leaning towards the Epson. Does any of your printers have a problem with streaks? or pin wheel marks? Thank you for any information you can provide.
Great Video! I've been going back and forth on which printer to get for a week so the clarity was wonderful. Quick question though - where do you get your Epson sublimation ink when you need to refill?
I get mind from jpplus.com 😁
@@thecraftybitchcompany Do you use Epson sublimation paper also?
@@pdxstitchpoint I actually really love Koala paper and LexJet Paper the best above epson
Please where did you get the huge paper cutter from?
I haven't used Sawgrass ink for years no LINES. Great Great printer. I now use film w painters tape along t back top. Still in t Sawgrass. Great results!!!
Do you have a video on the F170
I bought the Epson WF7020 a few years ago when they were on sale for $295.00 that can make up to 13” x 19” prints. The ink costed only $35.00 for all four color 500ml bottles and $35.00 for refillable/reusable cartridges and made products cheaper which means higher profits. E.I., four coffee mugs $0.35 cents Epson vs Sawgrass at $1.02. It’s a no brained! 🤯
That's great and I am glad it is working for you.
What ink are you using?
@@thecraftybitchcompany It really doesn't matter. Anyone that sells ink under their brand is really buying the ink from one of a very few companies in China that manufacture it for every major printer company in the world. Basically, they are all the same.
@@Bobster986 just like anything, really. Was just wondering which one you chose to go with.
For anyone reading, using anything other than Epson/Sawgrass in a turn key sublimation printer voids the warranty. Thanks for your input! 🙂
@@thecraftybitchcompany There are different types of inks, Oil, Solvent, etc. so if you're using an Epson printer it is important to buy one that is specifically for Epson printers. If you have a Sawgrass it would be a different oil based ink, so just remember that.
Ok sis ! I think I’m gonna do the same thing
Thank you so much for the info. I make a decision on if its worth doing this or just purchasing premade sheets every year. I need about a 1000 prints a year but new to all this .. So if I see this correctly. epson f170. ink and paper is lower cost. just to make sure. does this work on polyester hockey jerseys?
I’ve used a “converted” Eason from the beginning and hate it. Now that I’m doing more sublimation I’m looking to upgrade to a Real Sublimation printer (likely the Eason) I was wondering if you’ve ever tried sublimating on WHITE Suede? If so do you lose True color? On my printer I print on a polyester canvas and get vibrant colors but when I use the same colors on white suede I get a much lighter color. Just trying to figure out if a Real Sublimation printer would help before I spend the money. Thanks!
Hello 👋 again is this printer compatible with an iPad Pro?
Hello thanks for honest advise. Where can I get Epson f170 ? For a good deal
I need some help. I thought about buying Epson F6300 for 6K. Is it worth it? And if you want a full sublimation shirt do you need a transferpress of 80cm x 100cm? Or can you use a smaller one and do it in different press parts? With the Epson 6300 you can print 1 meter wide.
I use the network USB cable with my F560, it was highly recommended in case wifi cut out in the middle of a huge printout! I hate the 2" of waste before and after each printout, is there a way to not have that?
A side note.. I like your icon!
Can you do 24oz with the sawgrass SG500
can I ask where did you get the larger paper cutter from??? i have been looking for something that size so that i can make quick repeatable cuts with both htv and adhesive vinyl
Hi! I got it on Amazon. It was pricey ($350) but love it
i do have the F570 and i ben getting a ants tracks when i iam printing with dark color do you have experience this problem with your on the 8x11 paper
I heard that the Epson f570 is only warrantied for 10,000 prints? After that the warranty is up. Also, there are only 4 colors inks, do they print better than the printers with like 5 or 6 different ink colors? Thanks
Hello thank you question is the Epson F170 called sure color ?
Yes, it is 🙂
Hello, thank you for the great video. Can Epson Sublimation prints be applied to dark garments?
Hi! No, sublimation printers dont print white ink so no sublimation transfer can be applied to dark garments. Screen print transfers are great for dark garments
@@thecraftybitchcompany Thank you Jacqui.
I didn’t know epson had these versions
Question can you use other sublimation ink like hiipoo ink on the epson printer and it works just fine?
Absolutely but it will void any warranties
I wanna make shirts should I just use the 500
The 500 can only print up to 8.5 x 14 so as long as you don't want your transfers larger than that then it would be OK. I personally like my transfers at 11" but totally personal preference
Dint they have the Epson 15000 fir this ?
That's a converted eco tank and not a turn-key sublimation printer 🙂
I heard the ink pad needs replaced and the whole entire printer needs sent back to EPson to clean it out. Can you give me more info on that? That was a reason I wanted to avoid EPson but sawgrass just sounds not even worth it
I have both the 170 and 570 and kept the smaller one just because it would hold the mug paper.
Yes that's the one thing I can say I wish the f570 had. But cutting the letter size paper in half after printing isnt TOO terrible I guess 😂
@@thecraftybitchcompany true
Sawgrass also have a 24" printer, the VJ 628. That and the epson f500 would have made a better comparison.
True! Thank you for pointing that out 🙂 I don't have that printer so, I can't truly speak on the quality/comparison/ease of use with it, though.
But for anyone reading this thread, there is a 24" sawgrass available but, it's double the price (~$5k) as the F570 and the ink is still 4x more expensive.
The ink cost remains the issue. VJ628 inks are soooo expensive. Logic, as Sawgrass is an ink manufacturer, so they want to sell as much ink as possible.
@@thecraftybitchcompany this was a great comparison on the smaller vs the larger format. It helped a lot!
sawgras have 3 models a4 a3 and for 24 inch
True but at almost 5K, It's not as "entry level" as the others I covered in this video. Thanks for throwing it out there though 🙂
@@thecraftybitchcompany no f500 its so +/- 2500
@@beijafloredesignstudio yeah double the cost of the most expensive printer I reviewed. 99% of people I have coached in the past don't have that budget so I don't cover it. I also never used it so I can't give an honest review/opinion. I have personally used all the other printers I discussed
You go ahead and buy that high priced Sawgrass with the 75 dollar per ink cartridge when you can get all 4 for an epson for 30 dollars.. I have been using the same epson 2720 for a couple of years and the only problem I had was once I had to do an automatic print head cleaning and it took about 5 minutes. Buy The Epson
Lol what? my recommendation was to go with Epson but not the converted , the turn-key sublimation printer due to the risk that converted printers have a lot more issues than sublimation printers. 🤷♀️ I did not suggest going with Sawgrass due to the ink cost, actually (check out minute 7:06)
Do people get away with them and have them last Years? Absolutely. However, I have coached thousands of students and MANY of them had their converted crap out in less than a year.
Also, when you buy a converted, you need to buy the ink which puts you damn near, if not higher than the cost of the Epson Surecolor F170
stop saying the Sawgrass ink cost 3 times less than the Epson EcoTanks. At $20, the Epson's will give you 13 times the worth of the Sawgrass ink!
I didn't say that. I said Epson was cheaper ink by a landslide. I'm reccomending the Epson Surecolor, NOT sawgrass btw (video moment when this is explained is 7:06 )
the price of ink for the sawgrass is rediculous. Always go with epson ecotank. Epson comes with 140ml bottles of ink. To get 140ml of each of the 4 colors for the sawgrass would cost $1600.00 dollars Canadian !!!! $1100.00 usd !!!
What ??! Sawgrass if you don’t use their ink , lines will be thru prints ???! They need to state that. Where’s the info ?
you can by the extended 3rd party warranty they will fix or reimburse you regardless of ink problem solved
What's the cost?
@@thecraftybitchcompany depends on price but a 699 epson 15000 its 129 for 4 years at best buy and they will just give you a new 1 no questions asked
buy a ROTOTRIM cutter 1000x better then the cutters you are using.!
I'll look into it thanks!!!!
Don’t buy Sawgrass … ink is so expensive
Go with epson if you want to make money
The bigger the printer, the bigger the heat press needed so the costs don't stop with the printer.
Very true
Unless you need to print a lot of small items...
Epson printer is Better colors are more vibrant way more vibrant
⚠ Trigger ⚠ Warning ⚠:
Compliments incoming ⭛ ( 😱Oh, the humanity!)
So, with that disclaimer out of the way, here's why I watched this entire video and wound up hitting the Like button👍🏻 (which I never do unless it's a worthy piece of content) >
You're like a Kathy Lee Gifford circa 1980s and my psychiatrist (she's hot af, so that's not a cap or nothing) so you're attractive as all hell and good presentation / charisma skills, along with knowledgeable about this subject and experienced with the topic, so not just vicarious knowledge (book-smart), but empirically intelligent and you use a light sprinkling of curse words (I assume - this is the only video I've seen but you started with a nice 4 letter smoker in this video 🤘🏻) without being a potty mouth sailor..
Kinda taking a verbose route towards the point which is, in a nutshell, you're a much better person to learn from than any of the other ppl on RUclips here that are focused on the subject of sublimation printing, and I just thought I'd pass that along.
I watched probably 5 other channels with varying degrees of tolerance for their content before I eventually tapped out on each one before the video ended.. But I stuck around for this entire upload here and took the time afterwards to type this out due to the fact that you were the only sublimation printing channel that didn't either bore me to tears, irk me in some inexplicable manner that's just too ineffable to attempt to explain, too bubbly personality with pretentious undertones, or any number of other attributes that sent me packing and lookin'for an exit - Only your style was chill enough without droning on and concise enough without prattling on and frankly pretty enough to initially catch my attention and hold it through the length of the video with informative and well-presented knowledge of the subject, so.. Yeah.
For what that's worth¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I won't be surprised or disappointed if you say I lost you at my remarks in reference to your level of attractiveness because it's fashionable right now to search for any reason to shit on a dude for having the audacity to speak aloud any words in reference to a female's looks and totally discredit and discount any and all of the rest of the feedback from him based on that one aspect of it alone, so that's cool if so.. But if you're not so easily folded and thick enough skin to accept a compliment in that regard then that would be yet another reason why you're the GOAT of this niche, so hopefully that's what it is and not the former.
With all that said, regardless of which way you've taken these words I wish ya continued success in your career and will point anyone curious as I was about sublimation printing your way, cool?
Alright, well..
Not sure what else to say, so..
Right on.
Stay well and keep doing your thing since you're evidently doing something right ✌🏻
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