I was at the booth and the clock widget on the screen looked a lot like android so I asked a rep and she confirmed it's basically a small phone running it's own little programs. and as such can't be used as a second monitor either
Krytox 205g0: the standard lube used to tame rattling/ticking in stabilizers in gaps where different parts touch one another. It's a fine choice if the sides of either stabilized keycaps was rattle and tick-free.
@cgraham6 hyte has convinced Paul to go along with the agenda to move product. Not a slight on anyone, this is a business (both hyte and paul) and the consumer should always be aware of the game
Copied from my reply above: "What has happened to me a couple times now is: a liquid cooling pump fails, the CPU overheats, PC forced shutdown occurs. You boot up again, not knowing the pump failed, and due to residual heat the CPU overheats faster, this time causing a forced shutdown during windows bootup, corrupting the OS and causing a really big problem. Dual pumps would at least make that less likely to happen." This is why I like the dual pumps. I appreciate a healthy skepticism for, well, just about everything on the internet, but I do try my best to be transparent and to provide as much info as I can about the products without making it a sales pitch. Also @OldBuford, suggesting that I "go along with the agenda" of the brands I cover is a slight whether you say it is or not.
@@paulshardwareThanks for the input, Paul. Anyone who has watched you at all knows you've always used air cooling when possible because of its reliability over AIOs. Your support of dual-pump AIOs shouldn't come off as disingenuous to anyone.
My GOD, all those flashing glowing blinking dancing lights.... I've always hated that RGB crap but I'm quickly reaching the point that I physically can't stand that RGB crap! Great video coverage of the product/s, but I physically hate the thing/s flashing all that light noise. I guess I really am too old for this sht! Cheers 🍻
I need an numpad because I work on my home pc as well as play but I like the concept of the Hyte Keeb. Those roller bars could be useful. I'd love to replace those plastic roll caps with a knurled metal set too. As for the AIO cooler, it looks fancy and I like the redundant pump but I've never had a pump fail on my air coolers...
I'm confused. Why not just have a stronger pump rather than redundant pumps. Sure the argument for a backup in case of a failure does make some sense but i still think I'd rather have one quality pump that can handle higher flow rates rather than redundant pumps that take up more space.
What has happened to me a couple times now is: a liquid cooling pump fails, the CPU overheats, PC forced shutdown occurs. You boot up again, not knowing the pump failed, and due to residual heat the CPU overheats faster, this time causing a forced shutdown during windows bootup, corrupting the OS and causing a really big problem. Dual pumps would at least make that less likely to happen.
@Jonathan-Roden I agree, but also imagine that would be very complicated if not impossible. AIO's are supposed to be closed loops for ease of use. If there's a way to change the pump, air would likely be introduced. That said, I'm no engineer.
The AIO is interesting, with the dual pump... but I'd like one without the phone attached to the CPU cooler. Perhaps that'd knock a nice chunk of change off the price tag? Otherwise, it's well outside my budget, and I'll just stick with the air cooler I have now. The keyboard is kinda cool. The clear case is interesting, particularly if I'm trying to make the space around my computer brighter. With the lighting effects, it'd be really cool to see them get their lighting integrated with games, much like what Corsair and Razer have done in games like Diablo 3 and 4. However, the rubber grips on the rollers (above the media keys) look too easy to slide off, and my cat would definitely have some fun with them. On top of that, I can see exactly zero scenarios where I'd want a keyboard with the number pad omitted. My only fear is they'll be trying to sell these too at an obnoxiously high price. If that's the case, I'll just continue giving money to Corsair. All in all, it all looks interesting, but much like their other products, seems well out-of-reach for those of us on a budget.
Ok ngl, that Hyte keyboard reminds me of the Apple "Cube" aesthetic. And I like it. It would absolutely not work with my setup, but I like the design language.
krytox is the standard lube, and durock stabilisers are good. the $179 MSRP is a bit expensive for the keyboard itself, but if the RGB is really important, this might be worth it
I quite like the Keeb. I think it looks genuinely futuristic and stylish, rather than something that tries to be those things but just ends up looking...silly. And Hyte in general continues to be the most exciting new brand around for me~
As far as the "keeb" goes, i was actually surprised to hear that it uses lavender switches. I've been using those daily in my keyboard, so i really wonder what makes these ones fluffy lol been loving these CES vids Paul!! c:
Eh, dual bios didn't significantly increase the cost or size. I can definitely see the uses of this, but a dual pump isn't going to be good for every situation.
I wonder if Hyte has been collaborating with XFX on the development of that cooler. I have the THICC III Ultra cooler on my XFX GPU, and it works really well.
That chunky lcd on that swing arm makes me concerned about pressure and contact with the CPU. Gravity with be pulling the block down and away from the CPU. Any affect on the contact with IHS can affect temps. However they handle the mounting to the socket it needs to account for that like an air cooler has to.
But is it true redundancy, as in only one pump operates at any one time and the secondary only engages if the other has an issue? Or do both operate at the same time, all the time? Cos if so aren't they just going to age and wear at the same rate and so defeating the purpose of the redundancy aspect? Won't rate of failure chance remain the same? To me, it sounds more like they are simply trying to find a way around the AIO patent that Asetek has.
I love their attention to detail. The way they mounted the radiator upside down to ensure there was at least one pump at the highest point in the loop is truly astonishing.
@@dahahaka Mostly sarcastic. But honestly their abomination seems extremely hard to mount in a harmful or acoustically annoying way, if ignoring the fans noise level between
@@guillaumejoop6437 im pulling about 310 watts at 4.8ghz but my 360mm aio cant keep up. I really want 5ghz all core but i need a bit more cooling to achieve that.
The "keeb" is a bit much. I like RGB on my keyboard, but that's a lil overkill. Beyond that, TKL is a non-starter for me. I do way too much each day on the numpad.
I prefer keyboards with a ten-key, as I use them a lot. Not a fan of over the top RGB, but the keyboard is nice looking. Not for me, though. Have fun Paul. :)
Not a super fan of the look of these components but I fucking love the innovation HYTE is pushing. They are clearly doing something right with so many case manufacturers hopping on the y60 hype train for should I said hyte train.
BUT PAUL!! The pumps are on the top of the loop. That, as you know, is where the air gathers, guaranteeing not one, but two pump failures in the near future....😊
No Thicc Q60 360? Why has no one mentioned this? If the 240 is equivalent to a normal 360, I want the damn Thicc 360. Why would I buy a 240 that's as good as a 360 opposed to just buying the 360 in the first place?
I like RGB lighting as an accent with solid, complimentary colors. The loud rainbow would repell me from their booth, not attract me to it. I don't know why they all have to spew colors on their demos like that.
because that's the best way to demonstrate all the range your product can have. But I agree that I would rather have a slow rainbow gradient to achieve the same effect
I cant bring myself to spend that kind of money on cooling and keyboard. $300 cooling system is just insanely expensive compared to the 7800X3D I got for $360. $180 for the keyboard vs $130 for 32gigs of CL30 DDR 5 memory. To each his own I guess
AIO nowadays should put a D5 or DDC pump on it, seriously. I mean separately and changeable if fails. So the will be three components, cpu block, pump, radiator. It's not gonna take too much room for a single D5 unless super small itx
Using a type-c connector for, well, everything, sure would avoid lawsuits. *_HINT_* . . . . I'd love to have all of my front I/O on the keyboard. A type-c gen2 connection (or gen2x2) would be more than enough to handle everything. Also, I am a full-size, with 10-key, keyboard loving kind of guy. Clear is fine with me, and lavender is one of my favorite colors. So, a solid two thumbs up from me, way to go HYTE. 👍👍
This monstrosity doesn’t make much sense with all those fans seemingly doing nothing! That 240 is too thick to properly fit in most cases, and two pumps are not necessary even as a back up since pumps rarely fail these days. 360’s look cooler as well.
Is that the front of the fans, they have a spiral cage on the front like you would normally have on the back? It looks like all the fans are wrong way around. The fan hubs and cage and the keyboard look very plasticy and cheap to me. Also, at 1:21 you can hear the blades hitting the frame or cage, at least to my ear it sounds like that. I also wish all these brands would stop coming up with their propriatary RGB software and locking people into their ecosystem. At least make it open source, so it can be implemented together with other systems through software like OpenRG or SignalRGB. It's come to the point where you can no longer shop for optimal components, but they have to match or work within a specific ecosystem, have the right connectors, work with the right software and THEN you can make a pick from a limited selection. I thoroughly dislike it.
I need something thats longer lasting or the girls on Twitter will make fun of me again, making me delete account from bullying. Do you have a 20pump AIO?
NGL it looks tacky as hell. Y40 performed terribly for me thermal wise with a 4090 and 13900KS. Moved on the h6 flow far better. Better build quality as well. Flimsy ass cases without the front glass
When you thought one pump chumps werent enough, now you have Two pump wumps. Dual AIO pump stuff i wonder if there is again a Patent thing that is going to fuck over AIO design again. The curse of those patents really screw up new better designs :(
yeah the asetek patent is outrageous, it's not about their pump design, or their special way to couple them. No it's basically "if you put a pump on top of your block, you owe us money". But I don't blame the company, I blame the administration in charge of delivering patents, they are the one who accepted it
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That LCD screen looks like a phone stuck on top of the CPU
I was at the booth and the clock widget on the screen looked a lot like android so I asked a rep and she confirmed it's basically a small phone running it's own little programs. and as such can't be used as a second monitor either
Whoever makes the largest one, with the smallest bezel, wins
Dumb. Who wants a cell phone in their computer case.
Looks stupid
i do agree, kinda look uggly...
Krytox 205g0: the standard lube used to tame rattling/ticking in stabilizers in gaps where different parts touch one another. It's a fine choice if the sides of either stabilized keycaps was rattle and tick-free.
Thickness Vs Length, the greatest debate of all time.
There's a minimum length to have but passed that it's all about thickness
we talking about rads right ?
Pump redundancy in the AIO cooler is a long overdue idea. It’s going to add to the price, but that’s still cheap insurance for your whole rig.
Completely unnecessary, the failure rate is so low, and even if it does fail the cpu just thermal throttles and shuts down eventually
@@xxxmtb You may be right, but both Paul and Hyte seem to think it’s worthwhile.
@cgraham6 hyte has convinced Paul to go along with the agenda to move product.
Not a slight on anyone, this is a business (both hyte and paul) and the consumer should always be aware of the game
Copied from my reply above:
"What has happened to me a couple times now is: a liquid cooling pump fails, the CPU overheats, PC forced shutdown occurs. You boot up again, not knowing the pump failed, and due to residual heat the CPU overheats faster, this time causing a forced shutdown during windows bootup, corrupting the OS and causing a really big problem. Dual pumps would at least make that less likely to happen."
This is why I like the dual pumps. I appreciate a healthy skepticism for, well, just about everything on the internet, but I do try my best to be transparent and to provide as much info as I can about the products without making it a sales pitch. Also @OldBuford, suggesting that I "go along with the agenda" of the brands I cover is a slight whether you say it is or not.
@@paulshardwareThanks for the input, Paul. Anyone who has watched you at all knows you've always used air cooling when possible because of its reliability over AIOs. Your support of dual-pump AIOs shouldn't come off as disingenuous to anyone.
That radiator is INSANE! Also, W Adam!!!!
Really enjoyed your coverage of CES, Paul. Much appreciated.
My GOD, all those flashing glowing blinking dancing lights.... I've always hated that RGB crap but I'm quickly reaching the point that I physically can't stand that RGB crap! Great video coverage of the product/s, but I physically hate the thing/s flashing all that light noise.
I guess I really am too old for this sht! Cheers 🍻
I need an numpad because I work on my home pc as well as play but I like the concept of the Hyte Keeb. Those roller bars could be useful. I'd love to replace those plastic roll caps with a knurled metal set too. As for the AIO cooler, it looks fancy and I like the redundant pump but I've never had a pump fail on my air coolers...
I'd like to see some coverage on Thermal Paste. Especially the flavored ones.
Man.. i know this is a troll, but i applause your creativity
Got me some thermal toothpaste
I'm confused. Why not just have a stronger pump rather than redundant pumps. Sure the argument for a backup in case of a failure does make some sense but i still think I'd rather have one quality pump that can handle higher flow rates rather than redundant pumps that take up more space.
could be due to patents held by other manufacturers
I thought Paul mentioned it was for redundancy in case of pump failure not really about flow
What has happened to me a couple times now is: a liquid cooling pump fails, the CPU overheats, PC forced shutdown occurs. You boot up again, not knowing the pump failed, and due to residual heat the CPU overheats faster, this time causing a forced shutdown during windows bootup, corrupting the OS and causing a really big problem. Dual pumps would at least make that less likely to happen.
I'd rather have a mecanism to easely swap the pump...
@Jonathan-Roden I agree, but also imagine that would be very complicated if not impossible. AIO's are supposed to be closed loops for ease of use. If there's a way to change the pump, air would likely be introduced. That said, I'm no engineer.
Bro why do I need an LCD on my heat sink? I thought rgb leds were getting out of hand. 😂
The AIO is interesting, with the dual pump... but I'd like one without the phone attached to the CPU cooler. Perhaps that'd knock a nice chunk of change off the price tag? Otherwise, it's well outside my budget, and I'll just stick with the air cooler I have now.
The keyboard is kinda cool. The clear case is interesting, particularly if I'm trying to make the space around my computer brighter. With the lighting effects, it'd be really cool to see them get their lighting integrated with games, much like what Corsair and Razer have done in games like Diablo 3 and 4. However, the rubber grips on the rollers (above the media keys) look too easy to slide off, and my cat would definitely have some fun with them. On top of that, I can see exactly zero scenarios where I'd want a keyboard with the number pad omitted. My only fear is they'll be trying to sell these too at an obnoxiously high price. If that's the case, I'll just continue giving money to Corsair.
All in all, it all looks interesting, but much like their other products, seems well out-of-reach for those of us on a budget.
Ahh yes. Paul "Two Pumps" Hardware. :) This is why the girls love you!
Is that a Black Lagoon reference lol
I like the pumps I like the radiator. That screen is stupid.
Yeah, looks out of place.
Yes bring back early 2000s see through plastic tech
180 bucks for the keyboard, Hyte must be Mad!!
full clear keeb please
Ok ngl, that Hyte keyboard reminds me of the Apple "Cube" aesthetic. And I like it. It would absolutely not work with my setup, but I like the design language.
I want that case, but with the screen in the corner glass, and without the floating cell phone.
Full size keyboard Keeb would be great.
it was so cool to see you make your video magic in person! so inspiring and thanks for the fan interaction. much love ❤
Love how the aio screen tells has a warning if the pump dies
krytox is the standard lube, and durock stabilisers are good. the $179 MSRP is a bit expensive for the keyboard itself, but if the RGB is really important, this might be worth it
I quite like the Keeb. I think it looks genuinely futuristic and stylish, rather than something that tries to be those things but just ends up looking...silly.
And Hyte in general continues to be the most exciting new brand around for me~
Some one on the team is definitely a hoyoverse fan😂. Got a jing yuan poster, plus Raiden and other character acrylic stands
It's all about the girth!
Need to look into that AIO...here in Sweden the Y70 Red is still on backorder until end of February...
They need a slightly cheaper version without the screen.
Obviously I'm a few days late, but I would love to see a review and thermals on that dual pump aio, either from you, or gamers nexus, or Jayztwocents
Awesome specs for that keyboard all good things at a decent price can't wait to see key board reviewers review them could be interesting
Hyte marketing team: "Hello fellow gamers"
Paul to really put this new Hyte 240/480 to the test I'd like to see it in a Mini ITX build, using the new CoolerMaster NR200 V2
As far as the "keeb" goes, i was actually surprised to hear that it uses lavender switches. I've been using those daily in my keyboard, so i really wonder what makes these ones fluffy lol
been loving these CES vids Paul!! c:
That should be the norm in the AIO category, kind of like how dual BIOS chips gradually became a ubiquitous mobo feature.
Eh, dual bios didn't significantly increase the cost or size. I can definitely see the uses of this, but a dual pump isn't going to be good for every situation.
If they made a barebones version of the AIO with a normal block cover and no rgb controller gimmicks I’d be interested
I wonder if Hyte has been collaborating with XFX on the development of that cooler. I have the THICC III Ultra cooler on my XFX GPU, and it works really well.
That chunky lcd on that swing arm makes me concerned about pressure and contact with the CPU. Gravity with be pulling the block down and away from the CPU. Any affect on the contact with IHS can affect temps.
However they handle the mounting to the socket it needs to account for that like an air cooler has to.
The stripper heal look has returned.
But is it true redundancy, as in only one pump operates at any one time and the secondary only engages if the other has an issue? Or do both operate at the same time, all the time? Cos if so aren't they just going to age and wear at the same rate and so defeating the purpose of the redundancy aspect? Won't rate of failure chance remain the same?
To me, it sounds more like they are simply trying to find a way around the AIO patent that Asetek has.
I love their attention to detail. The way they mounted the radiator upside down to ensure there was at least one pump at the highest point in the loop is truly astonishing.
Are you being sarcastic? The pump shouldn't be at the highest point to prevent it from running dry? Or am i missing something?
@@dahahaka Mostly sarcastic. But honestly their abomination seems extremely hard to mount in a harmful or acoustically annoying way, if ignoring the fans noise level between
@@GottKrampfThx for explaining, i have a hard time discerning sarcasm especially online :D
Thumbs up for the title.
Good luck Paul, as always on point! ❤
I love this, but my only problem is with the keyboard. I need a num lk.
Can some pls see if you can rear mount a q60 to a lian li vison rear exhaust
Now we need one of these in a 420mm configuration. Can finally cool my overclocked i9 7920x with it.
*cough* 12/13/14900K *cough*
@@guillaumejoop6437 im pulling about 310 watts at 4.8ghz but my 360mm aio cant keep up. I really want 5ghz all core but i need a bit more cooling to achieve that.
The "keeb" is a bit much. I like RGB on my keyboard, but that's a lil overkill. Beyond that, TKL is a non-starter for me. I do way too much each day on the numpad.
I prefer keyboards with a ten-key, as I use them a lot. Not a fan of over the top RGB, but the keyboard is nice looking. Not for me, though. Have fun Paul. :)
I want that 240, but I don’t think it would fit in my meshroom d case 🥲
Why? When either one fails you sill have to replace the entire unit then.
Wish thy make hose little longer so you can place AIO rad beter in and out be on bottem
Well, actually, save for Arctic, all other AIOs use thin radiators because their customers don't care about tremps, they care about aRGB.
they all use the same supplier too, along with the locked asetek design there's virtually no difference between brands apart from the fans
That rollerbar on the keyboard looks so bad like someone just taped it on the keyboard.
Paul get review on ces 2024 . are there any new wi-fi router ??
HYTE should've went with a 280mm THICC
Love that Keeb keyboard. They aren't giving them away, unfortunately.
Not a super fan of the look of these components but I fucking love the innovation HYTE is pushing. They are clearly doing something right with so many case manufacturers hopping on the y60 hype train for should I said hyte train.
BUT PAUL!! The pumps are on the top of the loop. That, as you know, is where the air gathers, guaranteeing not one, but two pump failures in the near future....😊
well, after watching a busload of videos on water-cooling, I realize I was thinking that the pump was located in the frame of the radiator....my bad.
I think that keyboard would look better if it was frosted rather than clear.
Cool products with weak showcase
Instead of two pumps I would love to just see pumps that are dead silent.
No Thicc Q60 360? Why has no one mentioned this? If the 240 is equivalent to a normal 360, I want the damn Thicc 360. Why would I buy a 240 that's as good as a 360 opposed to just buying the 360 in the first place?
Doesn't look 52 mm thick radiator
I like RGB lighting as an accent with solid, complimentary colors. The loud rainbow would repell me from their booth, not attract me to it. I don't know why they all have to spew colors on their demos like that.
because that's the best way to demonstrate all the range your product can have. But I agree that I would rather have a slow rainbow gradient to achieve the same effect
I cant bring myself to spend that kind of money on cooling and keyboard. $300 cooling system is just insanely expensive compared to the 7800X3D I got for $360. $180 for the keyboard vs $130 for 32gigs of CL30 DDR 5 memory. To each his own I guess
A minimally backlit keyboard is okay but this level of RGB would have me taking siezures or something. Still, it's some pretty cool kit
Same
Cool !
When is someone going to have the guts to use 200 cooler master fans for radiator 🐸🐸🙄🙄
I'd rather have Gameboy color transparent colored keyboards than RGB
I've only used keyboards 65% of the time for 10 years. i hate big keys...
Nice
That cooler's really sweet looking.
"It's $300"
Man that's an Ugly cooler.
Needs 10 key for me. but I do like the look of this Hyte. and hell no on the price way too high for me.
AIO nowadays should put a D5 or DDC pump on it, seriously. I mean separately and changeable if fails. So the will be three components, cpu block, pump, radiator. It's not gonna take too much room for a single D5 unless super small itx
I think the industry is getting sick of asetek patent, so we are going towards that. AiO with DDC in the rad already exist for that very reason
@@guillaumejoop6437 I know some custom loop "aio" doing that like Alphacool or Granzon but I've never seen real aio with DDC.
Every time I've seen that keyboard, I've liked its look. I think I'm gonna need to build a custom one.
$300 for a 240mm aio? Even with the dual pump and all the features it has, I could never justify spending $300 on a 240mm aio.
Water doesn't belong in a PC.
I will never again use the word "keeb".
2 pump chumps
Using a type-c connector for, well, everything, sure would avoid lawsuits. *_HINT_* . . . .
I'd love to have all of my front I/O on the keyboard. A type-c gen2 connection (or gen2x2) would be more than enough to handle everything.
Also, I am a full-size, with 10-key, keyboard loving kind of guy. Clear is fine with me, and lavender is one of my favorite colors. So, a solid two thumbs up from me, way to go HYTE. 👍👍
This monstrosity doesn’t make much sense with all those fans seemingly doing nothing! That 240 is too thick to properly fit in most cases, and two pumps are not necessary even as a back up since pumps rarely fail these days. 360’s look cooler as well.
The keyboard looks 23 years old acrylic, definitely not worth $180.00!
No more 1 pump chumps ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
You are a Weeb if you buy a Keeb. I really enjoy when marketing fails.
Hi paul!
The keyboard is interesting, but I'd rather have a full sized unit than a TKL. The price though, pass.
I want the AIO but without that Ludacris lcd on it just what's below it. It looks like phone, so fkn dumb.
Is that the front of the fans, they have a spiral cage on the front like you would normally have on the back? It looks like all the fans are wrong way around. The fan hubs and cage and the keyboard look very plasticy and cheap to me. Also, at 1:21 you can hear the blades hitting the frame or cage, at least to my ear it sounds like that. I also wish all these brands would stop coming up with their propriatary RGB software and locking people into their ecosystem. At least make it open source, so it can be implemented together with other systems through software like OpenRG or SignalRGB. It's come to the point where you can no longer shop for optimal components, but they have to match or work within a specific ecosystem, have the right connectors, work with the right software and THEN you can make a pick from a limited selection. I thoroughly dislike it.
Not many cases are going to fit that thick of a radiator. Might as well just buy a 360. Also, twice hte number of pumps means twice the noise. PASS.
I need something thats longer lasting or the girls on Twitter will make fun of me again, making me delete account from bullying. Do you have a 20pump AIO?
So tired of nobody making a Quad aio..... 4x120mm aio....
300 is not bad at all. i think its well priced. i will buy one soon for sure
meh let the best rgb win - ces was a parched desert this year in my view
The phone, ahem LCD screen, is dumb AF.
NGL it looks tacky as hell. Y40 performed terribly for me thermal wise with a 4090 and 13900KS. Moved on the h6 flow far better. Better build quality as well. Flimsy ass cases without the front glass
I find Hyte as manufacturers as boring as can be.
Hyte give us options without your RGBs. TBH, I'm already sick of RGB.
When you thought one pump chumps werent enough, now you have Two pump wumps. Dual AIO pump stuff i wonder if there is again a Patent thing that is going to fuck over AIO design again. The curse of those patents really screw up new better designs :(
yeah the asetek patent is outrageous, it's not about their pump design, or their special way to couple them. No it's basically "if you put a pump on top of your block, you owe us money".
But I don't blame the company, I blame the administration in charge of delivering patents, they are the one who accepted it
why do I hate everything hyte makes?
All I see is 2 points of failure.
That AIO is stupidly ugly