'She Was Always The Wrong Person': Alan Dershowitz Blasts Harvard President Claudine Gay
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2023
- On "Forbes Newsroom," attorney and Harvard Law School emeritus professor Alan Dershowitz slammed Harvard President Claudine Gay over her record and testimony before the House Education Committee.
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… and what about the committee SUPPORTING her…!?
Yes indeed. That's the insidious thing here... the people who are trying to preserve her at all costs, because she's their project
HARVARD now is a JOKE!
Ideological capture from top to bottom. Actual pit of vipers.
@@RubyBandUSA if they lose their flagship hire what would that say about the rest of them?
Fire her or demand resignation. People arise and walk out, sit-ins until Harvard removes her.
then they will put some just like her in. new bottle old wine
An Israel bot.
If anybody believes De-notso-Nice and the Trump have not plagiarized at Yale and U Penn, your really kidding your self. Trump is even plagiarizing Hitler in speeches!
That won't happen because the students who blindly support terrorists were told they could continue to intimidate Jews without ant punishment.
Desglosemos esto. Las universidades son, por su propia naturaleza, bastiones de pensamiento independiente y autogobierno. Están diseñadas para estar aisladas de presiones externas, ya sean políticas, financieras o sociales, para asegurar que la libertad y la integridad académicas permanezcan intactas. La idea de que la permanencia en el cargo de un presidente universitario y el currículo de la institución puedan ser dictados por los caprichos de un multimillonario, amplificados a través de los canales de redes sociales y impuestos por una minoría vocal, es antitética a estos principios. Esto socava la misma base de la autonomía académica y establece un peligroso precedente para el futuro de la educación superior.
La ley de la multitud, en este contexto, se refiere a la toma de decisiones que no está impulsada por un debate razonado o procesos democráticos, sino por las voces más ruidosas e influyentes, independientemente de su alineación con los valores y objetivos de la comunidad académica. Cuando un multimillonario utiliza su influencia en las redes sociales para inclinar la opinión pública y forzar cambios en el liderazgo universitario, es una forma de coerción que elude las estructuras de gobernanza tradicionales. Este enfoque no solo falta al respeto a la autonomía de las instituciones educativas, sino que también ignora la sabiduría y experiencia colectivas de la comunidad académica
This is so reminiscent of the Soviet Union Academy, where faculty and management was picked according to the loyalty to the party...
She's utterly clueless of the USSR and she thinks she's pulling a fast one on everyone 🤣
She's a Kommissar
Good analogy,
Wow! It does sound like that. Except that in this case, the loyalty is to an ideology rather than to a State' party line, like in the URSS.
@@funfact8660 actually I grew up in the USSR. I remember the stupidest teachers and professors were the most ideologically "sound" or better said insane. BTW they are the same people who are now pro Putin and pro war. Nothing changes. It just saddens to see the same pseudoMarxist ideology of equity has overtaken the campuses
So the reward for her incompetence as “dean” was a promotion to the presidency of Harvard?
This madness of institutional racism or diversity hire quotas is producing some horrific incompetent clueless appointments. This woman is just another example.
Claudine is what you get with applied equity.
She should see an Exorcist like the UPenn President. I hope it worked.
In your view it should be white only
gary… not everything nor every condition is skin colour dependent.
@@garyjsimmthat’s not what was said. Applied as in box tickers instead of merit
gary… ‘in your view it should be white only’ is an odd way of saying equity is box ticking. Applied (not implied) equity in this instance led to a person with the ‘correct’ skin tone, ‘correct’ sex, and possibly the ‘correct’ sexual orientation. The result is what we see being played out.
I was in college during the early to mid-1970s. There were mostly liberal professors even then. Having already served 4 years in the USAF, i was a a few years older than most of my co-students. Other than my stem classes, I took my liberal arts professors teaching with a grain of salt. But we could disagree with them without fear of grading reprisal. Most of them welcomed open debate and the ones who didn't were quickly found out. It was a different and better time to learn than it is today.
I'm 52 and back in school. It hasn't changed
We just had a woke fake Professor in BC at UBC fail students that dared disagree with her. they eventually got tracktion, esp. when it was foun dout she was claiming false certs. My law prof. in 1970 in LA said to me (in the middle of a campus riot) "we are raising the level of expectations of poor students who will not take personal responsibility when they fail: they'll BLAME anyone, anything. We were a JC ikn LA with a huge number of military vets and LAPD training classes. He was so right.
Agreed. I graduated in the early 2000s and started to see the intolerance grow even then. I wanted to minor in African literature and was horrified at what was being taught. The literature and indigenous culture was completely overlooked in favor of dwelling only on the oppression, which I admit is part of the history but shouldn't be the only aspect studied. One of the few white students in my class did a presentation where she lit a candle and then cried over the "crimes" of her ancestors - like what?!? The other students in the classroom and myself just looked at each other, all uncomfortable, but the professor hugged her and thanked her for admitting to the wrongs of her people. I graduated the following year but not before getting lecture after lecture about lowering standards in the name of equity. Utterly revolting, and it wasn't nearly as bad as it is now.
Yeah, we had to behave OW they crushed us on grades if we took and opposite view. Today, the teachers get graded too…by the students. Which is both good and bad. Too much grade inflation, so GPAs are meaningless.
Hilarious the hypocrisy of dershowiiz. He's attacking Gay for starting for cancel culture when he himself wants everyone canceled who isn't behind his evil support for a regime that kills 1000s of children
Defund universities
now we know why they were burning the ;witches; in the MiddleAges ... LOL! ( and don't miss the one from Chappaqua ... )
More like DEFEND Universities
Well.. you cannot defend all universities. Throw out the baby with the bathwater?
But you can boycott those you disagree with.
@@aynos629 from what? marxists?
She needs removed immediately.
I agree 👍
Agree!
If anybody believes De-notso-Nice and the Trump have not plagiarized at Yale and U Penn, you really kidding your self. Trump is even plagiarizing Hitler in speeches!
Israel bot.
Grammar isn't your strongest quality is it?
I don't usually agree with Alan Dershowitz, but in this case I do. I was particularly annoyed that Claudine Gay was allowed to "tidy-up" her Dissertation to avoid the charge of plagiarism.
If you have reached the PhD stage in the academy, You should know that taking material from already published works, without a citation is a disgrace.
To date, over 50 incidents of plagiarism have been documented in the sparse publications attributed to Gay.
Shouldn’t her adviser have had her “tidy up” her dissertation BEFORE awarding her the PhD?
It's like we're all expected to think only as high as Kindergarten level!
Interesting that you agree with Dershowitz when he was involved in a more serious plagiarism scandal at Harvard long before Claudine Gay after writing his best selling book about Israel. He threatened the school and said he had the means to fight the accusations. Harvard backed off, and he went on his merry way-keeping his prestige. Gay was afforded that type of treatment.
Fire her with NO SEVERANCE package!)
She was chosen to push their racist worldview and institutionalize discrimination that benefits chosen groups.
She's about as logical as a Lemming
And what specific group encouraged that?
A Racist who commits Academic Plagiarism, yet still has the nerve to be the president of Harvard? ? ! She does know some tricks... eg: People have no way of dealing with such shameless one.
she just did the job THEY brought her into the position
The only chosen group at Harvard are the students whose sole qualification for admission is that their parents went to Harvard, Give me a break.
She needs to go. And not be replaced with another token hire.
Replaced with white only huh?
We could go with competent
@@garyjsimm being a jackass isn't restricted to any one color.
@@timdusen1187 oh, I agree. But that’s not quite what this post means
Fire her. Period.
I'm glad Alan Dershowitz, at least, is allowed to speak out and tell the truth. Let's not forget other institutions, like Stanford University. Don't let Stanford and U.C. Berkeley escape scrutiny. U.C. Berkeley has been teaching and practicing hatred and intolerance for decades.
And i actually thought Stanford was Credible when Condaleeza Rice was on the Faculty and Susan Rice's Son was President of the Stanford Republicans.
The N6zis have been hibernating in the Ivy League since end of WWII, Werner Braun was running N6s6 as a N6zi
All 3 had useless lawyers. Chat GPT and Prof. Dershowitz would've been better lawyers for them.
Not one student called for the genocide of Jews, not one…..and I suggest you learn the meaning of intifada. America once had an intifada !
How much money contributed by Muslims to universities? The strangest thing is that the most non-pluralistic and the most racist and dangerous people finance the education of supposedly most "liberal" people.
It never ceases to amaze me how some intellectuals can lack wisdom Gay must resign now but only in context of course
Defund Harvard!!!
Give Trade Schools the funds
Big donors of Harvard are from mid-east............
LOL - you cannot DEFUND Harvard because the Lefty DEEP POCKET Corporate cliques are FUNDING the Harvard Foundation Fund ( which is now over 50 BILLION ! )
So, sadly, those Lefty Pinko-Commie Marxists Professors and Academia who now run Harvard can do whatever they want, with impunity ! :-(
@@joshuawang5859Arabic countries ?
@@funfact8660 Qatar
Gay is an example of "Leadership"? She cannot even give a "Yes or No" answer.
"I say, I say I do declare that Gal's about as sharp as gravy, stable as an earthquake, logical as a Lemming, and trustworthy as a drunken Nazi" 🐔
In essence she gave the same answer as the people who went out of their way to say All lives matter. What’s the problem why be sensitive and specific now…
@@Beastmode73060so the BLM crowd can't take it
Stefanik should have asked if Harvard still deducts 225 SAT points from Asians and White Males...and then throws their Admittance Apps in the Garbage.
@@Beastmode73060She needs that Black Privilege card revoked
Soon, Harvard students will be paying 100.000$ per year but noone will be hiring them. Nice investment.
He's absolutely right. She is Harvard's token high level DEI hire. They will never fire her!
U.S. universities generally enjoy a higher degree of academic freedom compared to institutions in more authoritarian regimes. In the United States, academic freedom is a core principle that allows scholars to research, teach, and express ideas without fear of institutional censorship or government control. This freedom is integral to the democratic fabric and is distinct from free speech, adhering to rigorous academic standards and intellectual dissent, which are crucial in challenging authoritarian structures and societal norms. In contrast, universities under authoritarian regimes often face significant restrictions, with academic freedom curtailed to align with government policies and ideologies. If you are looking to make America more inclusive, look at changing the republican Party. The current composition of the Republican Party in the U.S. Senate, is 100% Christian with only 4% being non-white and 8% women, highlights a lack of diversity, particularly among Republican senators. This homogeneity raises concerns about the potential for narrow perspectives influencing broader policy decisions, including those affecting diverse institutions like universities. What if the republican party first fixes its own problem of racial and religious exclusion, before it starts pretending it is the guiding light of tolerance and understanding. In the whole history of the Republican Party, there have only been three Jewish Senators’ Jacob Javitz, Norm Coleman and Arlen Specter, and Specter started as a democrat and then switch parties in 2009.
Then it's up to the students to put pressure on her and Harvard.
@@moderneurope. No. Watch Good Kids Productions documentary about economist Roland Fryer and Harvard. She worked to get him expelled from Harvard as he didn’t agree with her DEI ideology. Definitely not an example of academic freedom.
Look at her credentials and tell me why she deserves to be president of perhaps the best institution in all the USA. Why college is a joke nowadays
*Harvard has a long history of white male supremacy.*
The entire Poison Ivy League is now looking a lot worse than "the best."
Has she changed her title at Harvard from President to Reichsfuhrer yet ?
Grand Mufti as well 🤣
Lmao that white suit she loves to wear reminds me of Goering
@@funfact8660You should change yours to Head Jew
I was going to give 100 billion to Harvard but now I will give it to trade schools.
I will take funding for my student loans. If you have it like that, I can apply through your business/nonprofit
I've always thought pain was pain no matter who was experiencing it. 💔 But I guess some pain is more important than others. 😢
Hard to believe she is still serving as Harvard President. Resign or face termination.
As a black woman, the Board of Trustees will not have the courage to fire her when she deserves to be fired.
Yep. If she was a white man she would be fired or resign. But neither will happen (((
As a black woman ok. I know your non blk person pretending to be black
As an extremely black person. Plus my soul is that of a black man. Sthu
Black, white, yellow: it does not matter. We are human beings first, but sometimes, it is hard to tell.
She might not get fired but she could well step down if she gets a lot of abuse.
One wonders how She made it so far. She should be the poster girl for the incompetent being put her position that she is completely unqualified for.
We all know how she made it so far…
@@ro6742 Same with a Supreme Court Justice that can't define a woman or our present Vice-President!
And, underneath it all, my guess is that Obama is having his say in the matter. Remember, he, too, is Black and has therefore extra sway in matters that concern Harvard, because, remember, he WENT THERE!
Don't give Gay the dignity to resign, sack her.
Prof. Dershowitz, you've annoyed me in the past, but you seem to get what's going on and you're making more sense, lately. Hope you stay the course. Americans need bright minds to help save this country.
Are you shurthat he changed not you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@grash4435 I'm very sure.
@@grash4435
English, please!
Fire Gay... not a good example of leadership in higher education.
Well, God forbid that you should be annoyed! What should we call that? A "macroagression"?
HARVARD 2023 same like BERLIN 1939. Dark time for HARVARD University.
She'd be one of the first sent East to "Resettlement Camps" yet has no clue
she was never the right person.. she was just the right color.
Harvard is NOT a destination anymore
She is evil
Correct! It is the double standard that is disgusting.
She should be fired
Now.
Who sits on the board? They are complicit. All need to go. Stank.
I've never seen Alan Dershowitz so worked up and passionate. He is totally correct.
How is it people are not worked up with having a would be dictator as Presiden or having an ex President who encourages racist views ? Who speaks directly to a section of the population with his disgusting views? How is it people are not worked up with the thousands of people and babies now dying in Gaza?
Why does not Alan Dershowitz rant and race about it?
douchowitz is always worked up wym
He is mentioned over 130 times i Jeffrey Epstein documents and listed as abusing teenage girls multiple times. Is that the kind of role models you look to?
Moscow troll.
@@busterbiloxi3833 Dershowitz made the suggestion in a 1997 op-ed in the Los Angeles Times, suggesting that 15 was a reasonable age of consent, no matter how old the other partner was. Not a surprise he was the most frequent quest of Epstein and a regular sexual predator. Not surprisingly. in the newly released Epstein documents pertaining to Dershowitz, include allegations made by an unnamed woman, Jane Doe #3. Jane Doe #3 said Epstein “required” her to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on multiple occasions when she was a minor. Epstein’s housekeeper Juan Alessi testified that Dershowitz would often visit Epstein’s Florida mansion to get massages, and another one of Epstein’s household employees, Alfredo Rodriquez, said the lawyer was frequently with underaged girls at the Epstein resident. Nor surprisingly. Dershowitz furthermore “played a significant role in negotiating an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida not only for Epstein but also for ‘any potential co-conspirators of Epstein’, the documents say.” For this work he got further sex favors from minors.
Ironically, Dershowitz case is perhaps the most deserving of consideration at the present moment, given that he has potentially been tapped by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to defend Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague. Israel will appear before said court to contest the accusation, made by South Africa, that it is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip, where the Israeli military has killed more than 22,000 Palestinians in less than three months.
Her incompetence has been known for years. Her plagiarism was also know for many years but the faculty wouldn't touch her because they feared the fallout of her using her "race card" if they confronted her.
This madness of institutional racism or diversity hire quotas is producing some horrific incompetent clueless appointments. This woman is just another example.
Exactly. "Race cards" ARE racist.
Harvard is the worst right now. It will right it ship IMO.
Alan Dershowitz, is a great American!
Use more commas!
Your little joke.
He’s Harvard’s biggest plagiarist.
She must be sent out.
Yeah send her to Gaza😡
I live in New Zealand and in my opinion Harvard is loosing its good reputation.
I live in America and it's reputation is already long gone. Nothing left to lose.
Thank you
Based on what? How many students or protestors got injured? Not even one. Has anybody in any level of job or responsibility made one mistake? This thing got out of proportion
I disagree. She is the perfect expression of what Harvard is and has become.
Yes become what? Racist to all those who are not of colour, not of Islam, not of 2 gender, not of left ideology making these groups not “ inclusive” and thus cancelled. Hypocrisy at its highest levels!
That is so sad!
I was actually relieved when they didn’t fire her. Not because I agree with her ideology but because she stands as an example of just how immoral and racist Harvard has become.
Dershowitz has a great and totally legal mind but he also has morals. With a moral compass you can achieve great goals. Without a moral compass you will only destroy.
well said
Very true. Intellectual abilities are just a tool at the service of the character, for better or the wor
who killed our Jesus
@@maryamseyedin-noor8021The Romans killed him. Duh. Read history, please.
You think he has morals? He has a very good argument here. That does not mean he has morals.
Gay was instrumental in getting Roland Fryer suspended for two years. Tells me all I need to know about her for doing that.
Muslims have 50 countries, Jews have 1.
Ethnic cleansing of Jews in Muslim countries in the last 50 years:
Morocco: 265.000 (today 2150)
Libya: 38.000 (today 0)
Iraq: 135.000 (today
Last person to talk about fairness and ethics !
Complexion is her protection...
Even though shes
UNQUALIFIED
Alan needs to be held accountable for what he did to Virginia Giuffre!
Why is that?
@@lachele7099 Look it up. He actually was epstein's attorney and spent time on that "island". I feel she was pressured/threatened into dropping the accusation, due to his power & influence.
This is irrelevant to the discussion about Claudine Gay.
but relevant to his character and therefore opinion.
He always seems to take on the most sleaze ball of clients - OJ Simpson!@@chloebelle4923
Now it's been proven she is a fraud yet she was not asked to resign, guess the color of her skin is more important that the conduct of her character
That's fair. However, in the interest of equality why was Alan Dershowitz not removed as professor of law at Harvard, when he was meticulously outed for plagiarism by Norman Finklestein.
Right on the money ,
Fire her, defund and if you have to close this hate school down ! I would not send my dog to Harvard .
Shame on her!
We need to start calling them antique black
Oh we still call Em what They are
Alan Dershowitz is brilliant and has so much integrity. He should run for president of the US
Dershowitz is 'whining' a lot -
but the WEALTHY JEWS from the East Coast have been pushing Millions and Millions to Harvard Foundation for years ... and are at least 50% COMPLICIT for what has Harvard become !
That's is what Dershowitz should be whining about ... The Lefty Pinko-Commie East Coats JEWISH clique , who has been supporting these Marxist Professors and Academia for decades !
God no
He is 85 years old.
Alan is really one of chosen people by god Epstein was too
He is a bright bright man....but he was on the island
Harvard has standards? Seems like a mill for woke mediocrity.
Yes she is a disgrace, she should be fired.
Get her out& never let her be allowed to work in education ever again,
She should be charged 😡😡😡
As a Harvard alum I feel shameful that someone such as Gay can be allowed to tint the image of Harvard ...
Education is not their priority
Harvard sounds like Hood nowadays
Hoodvard
Leave her there as the perfect symbol of how disgusting the whole rotten system is.
Harvard deserves this black, gay liberal cow President
Her new titles are Grand Mufti and Reichschancellor
@@funfact8660 karma
Unbelievable.....that she is head of Harvard...an obvious scammer.....This man is right...
Another terrible affirmation action mistake . Always hire incompetent with the most complexes!
I love you and red your book , thank you for your service to our country and being dedicated to the truth and honor
They don't mention the blatant plagiarism?
Alan is my go-to guy when it comes to legal matters.
Hope you get a chance and hire him.
You must have a lot of money. He only defends rich people. Then he trashes them, AFTER he gets paid.
When did Harvard become a corporation?
Long ago.
And no new graduates should be hired, And no federal money period
So you want to hurt and punish the students because you dont like the President? Think it over and come up with something better.
Gay needs to be fired ASAP
Alan makes a great argument! Thank god she is fired and gone!!!
Thank you, Professor Dershowitz.
The fact that she’s a black woman in an ivory league college was wrong in the first place…
Sack her now, period
She should resign immediately
HARVARD SUPPORT WOKE AND WOKE SUPPORT HAMAS.
Hamasses wokeness is jokeness, and leads to brokeness, morally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, mentally, and financially eventually
INCOMPETENCE is not compatible with HARVARD. REMOVE HER!!!
Boycott all businesses that gives contributions to Harvard. 😮
Black privilege.
It's high time her Black Privilege card got revoked
Karma
I also heard Ms. Gay is a known plagiarizer, and it’s documented she plagiarized the work of Dr. Carol Swain.
Imagine if HITLER said the same thing "Depending on the context" would you believe him??? 😂😅
It is not incompetence on her part but those who put her there in the first place.
She may be the wrong person but what does that say about the people that put her in that position
Unfortubately, universities have failed as institutions of learning and scholarship.
Thank you Mr. Dershowitz. You are correct in your assessment of Ms. Gay. Harvard HAS lost almost all of its credibility and is now a dismal excuse of a university. IT'S VERY SAD.
Fire her
Even for a business cooperation, under this situation, the CEO needs to resign to save the reputation of other employees and loyal customers. Not to mention as an academic institution that educates people and values the truth as its Motto. And we all know bad businesses die. She doesn’t care about Harvard, but her own interests. How come she even got her position?
What about supporting diversity of intellectual thoughts instead?..
I thought she was Atom Ant
"Prejudices are what fools use for reason"...
Yep l plagiarized that,
in honor of Harvard and their leadership's incalculable narrowmindedness..
Voltaire.
She is ''picked'' for that job, to destroy Harvard!
Gay.....shld RESIGN IMMEDIATELY. Protect all ✡️
JEWS. ❤❤❤AMEN 🇮🇱 🙏
1. No sympathy lost for Dershowitz. I truly dislike him.
2. All of his points are very well taken. 💯
There are incompetent persons in many places not only at Harward. The capable people keep in the shadows...
She still works at Harvard and is paid over $900,000 per year. No wonder the institution costs so much to attend...overpaid professors.
She published a total of 11 articles and more than a few are being questioned about plagiarism. That sounds like a DIE hire and not a qualified candidate.
“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” - Claudine Gay.
17% decline in early commitments to Harvard.
Good recruitnent job, Gay.
Remember before October 7th, when conservative America was so worried about “woke culture” stifling freedom of speech on college campuses?
I Agee with Dersh.
Because Harvard has such high standards, Claudine Gay was hired because of her gender, skin color, and non U.S. birth place.
Wow, Steve Erkel is President of Harvard??
👍😆 He's smarter than that Goonie
😂😂😂
@@funfact8660 Precisely...Erkel could kick Doogie Houser's Ass.
Haiti has a long history of not respecting human life.
Look at Kamela Harris
@@optimusprinceps3526Do we have to ? 🤮
Dessalines
Love the Menorah in the background.
When demographics is considered more important than being competent…….