@SebastianWellsTL The problem is electricity is a great alternative to hydrogen. Nothing about hydrogen is better than electricity that is stored directly into batteries.
@@lesliecarter4295 Or, is it because they control the infrastructure and profit from it? While electricity is easily produce even by simple consumer using solar panel. Don't get me wrong hydrogen will be very useful for planes and needs to be developped. For truck, with madatory 30 minutes breaks every 3H in most contries developping mega chargers is a much better choice. 90% of the produced energy goes to the wheels using battery, with hydrogen it's less than 70% (being nice). Even financially it does not make sense.
I think u need to listen to the q4 call again. Drew Baglino explicitly said they have enough 4680's for all their vehicles and that they are ramping. Also as you said there will not be much more orders for semi until Tesla has built out its 750kwh mega charging network. This is not specif to Tesla, the other OEMs will have to do the same and build out their mega charging network, unless they are going to make the same mistake before and sit around for public charging, which ia simply not going to happen.
Dude. Get this through your head. Fuel cells are not competitive with batteries. They never will be. The cost per unit of energy delivered to the wheel is simply too high. 2 to 3 times higher than for batteries in fact. It's a pipe dream that the passenger car market has finally woken up from. (Which is why they came out with synthetic fuels again, they needed something else to pull over our eyes) Just as fuel cells have failed in passenger cars, they are going to fail in freight. Large truck manufacturers are already starting to wake up, and switching from fuel cell plans to battery electric reality. Again, fuel cells are 2 to 3 times more expensive per unit of mass transported over unit of distance, compared to BEVs. Also, freight fleet operators don't have range anxiety. They have spreadsheets.
Brilliant. The odd explosion in truck or filling station will see hydrogen go way of Hindenburg. In trucking, cost rules. Driving BEV opens up available labour pool, it’s so easy.
@@sunrisejak2709 world has been controlled by OPEC for decades, esp since 1972. Hydrogen is made from steam reformation of methane gas. So it’s still fossil fuel. Extremely difficult to transport to say Japan, it’s leaky, extremely cold, ultra high pressure, causes embrittlement. Loves to explode, over huge range of concentrations in atmosphere, way worse than methane. China isn’t the problem, they actually have more of the RE solution than USA does, or Europe. You lose all credibility if you ignore economics. Hydrogen is expensive. Green hydrogen will be worse. You’d have to be Joe McCarthy to be so obsessed by China, willing to toss economics into dung heap.
@@sunrisejak2709 dude, no offense, but that's a bunch of nonsense. First of all, anytime someone makes the argument about hydrogen being the most abundant element, you know they haven't done their homework. Incidentally, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, but not on Earth. Most of it is contained in stars. But that doesn't actually matter here. First of all, lithium is not like oil. It's not some scarce resource that will make the world beholden to some messed up region of the world. The stuff is everywhere. Most of it is actually currently mined in South America and Australia. But there are massive reserves all over the world, including the USA that are just starting to be mined or will be soon. There are other metals involved, sure, but the story is similar here. And the battery chemistries keep evolving to optimize the inputs. For instance, the most politically problematic element - Cobalt, has been phased out of many chemistries. Not to mention some widely used chemistries like Lithium Iron Phosphate never used any to begin with. There's another class of batteries coming online right now - sodium batteries, which uses a principal element that's even more abundant than lithium. Also, unlike oil, the use of these materials is non-depletive. You don't burn up those elements when you use the battery - every atom is still there. And they can be pulled out with very high percentage yields. Going with batteries won't make you dependent on China. It does currently, because China manufactures the most cells in the world. But there are giant factories being built as we speak, in the US and elsewhere in Europe. Secondly, you'd better believe it's primarily about cost of transportation. Why do you think the world is addicted to oil? Is it because there is no other technology or energy source that could possibly move a car? No. It's because for a hundred years oil has been the only cost-effective and practical source of energy for transportation. If cost didn't matter, countries could run on liquefied charcoal or whatever, like they do in North Korea. Instead countries have been locked in a struggle to control the supply of oil for decades now. Not because it's the only option, but because it's been the only practical and economical one - which de-facto made it the only option. Countries can afford to subsidize an emerging technology while it's getting started. Certain companies and organizations can too. And they can definitely afford doing BS publicity stunts, like buying a few hydrogen buses, building a few refueling stations, and then proclaiming that hydrogen is the future. But nobody can afford to keep the show going. There is no country on Earth that can afford to pay 3 times more than necessary per unit of energy for their transportation. (No real country, that is. I'm sure a "country" like the Vatican with their couple dozen vehicles and massive inflow of money from Christians worldwide could manage.) Any country that has tried to bring about the hydrogen economy has found out that it's impractical and wildly uneconomical. And any country that would choose to push through despite these findings would be committing an economic suicide. Please wake up. Hydrogen is a pipe dream.
@@zlozlozlo Hydrogen is in water. And water covers like 78% of the earth's surface. Period. China controls directly or indirectly about 80% of the earth's mineral resources. This is not a great position unless of course your Chinese. On a similar vein China generates or processes over 90% of the world medicinal raw materials. Imagine if they turn off thst tap?! Why all the efforts chasing hydrogen? It's a huge global effort! Enormous sums of money and research allocated. Why? I'm not saying it's practical, but finding energy sources free of oil and mining is the geopolitical goal.
@@sunrisejak2709 again, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Most of it is contained in stars though. In Earth's crust (which is the part that's easily available to us) oxygen is actually the most abundant element at about 46%. Also if you want to get nitpicky, Earth's surface is a drop in the bucket compared to Earth's total volume. So, yeah, your comments about my education are a touch ironic. But again, this fact is completely irrelevant to the whole debate. No matter how many times Toyota pays Michio Kaku to parrot this fact on stage or in a promo video. We could have 1% the hydrogen we have and it would still be enough to have a hydrogen economy. The problem with hydrogen is not the abundance of the element. The problem with hydrogen is that: a) here on Earth it's not an energy source. It doesn't occur in a high energy state (H2 molecules) on Earth almost at all. It exists primarily in low energy state (bound into water or hydrocarbons) and for it to be useful we need to add the energy (split the molecules). Therefore it's not an energy source, at best it's usable as an energy storage medium. Which is unfortunate, because, b) as an energy storage medium it REALLY sucks. Hydrogen is difficult to handle, has piss-poor energy density, and loses badly to batteries on efficiency alone. But as I mentioned, there's a lot of hydrogen in the stars, and wouldn't you know it, it's in a high energy state. So go mine the sun you plonker.
Two errors. The price quoted of $180k for the Semi is not industry estimate, it is 2017 announced price. Most likely much higher now. $250k has been rumored. 4680 cell manufacturing problems seem to be behind them now. Ramping up production at Giga Texas faster than the ramp of Cybertruck. They are now targeting 5GWh/yr/line with 8 lines running later this year. I believe excess 4680 cell production will go to the Semi.
Local/inter-local makes the most sense. No sleeper, single axle with 35’ trailer, 100 to 200 mile routes, no idling, return to base to recharge every night. Maybe even some Class 6 box. As for OTR, I’ve seen the video; not bad, but that must have been one slow moving rig with all the cars/Class 8 passing it. A real test would be I-70 westbound out of Denver to Richfield, UT. 470 miles with four high passes (Eisenhower, Vail, Spotted Wolf and Salina Canyon). Run that on a single charge and color me impressed.
I just calculated your proposed route from Denver to Richfield, UT, which I know quite well having studied at CU in Boulder. I computed all up and downhills, using known drive train efficiencies (in traction or regenerative braking). Now, prepared to be impressed! The Tesla Semi can do that route ON A SINGLE CHARGE, but admittedly not at full load. The load must be at or below 35'000 lb (which is a class-8 truck median load in the US). The Semi should also be driving at an average 55 mph... which seems quite reasonable given the terrain! Over here in Europe, given that a truck's max daily range is limited by the driver's hours at the wheel, and not by its battery capacity, the Tesla Semi could easily do the longest of long-haul duties, at full European loads of some 25 ton or 55'000 lb! Please note that the absolute longest distance a truck can legally cover daily in Europe is 506 miles, but the average on long-haul duties is more 420-450 miles per day, because of traffic. Speed limit for heavy trucks is 80 km/h (50 mph) or 90 km/h (56 mph), depending on the country. And max hours at the wheel is 9 hours in any 24-hour period, leaving up to 15 hours for recharging the battery!!!
@@st-ex8506 Not at full load. OK, like the original video, there are caveats. My original usage of local/inter-local makes the most sense, yet it carries less bang for the buck of publicity than the OTR. I’m too practical, I guess. And, yes, I’ve run that same route many, many times in a 90 Plymouth Grand Voyager, a 2000 Ford Windstar, a 13 Altima and a 19 Santa Fe.
E-Trucks will be a very big thing, at the high mileages of trucks this will be a gamechanger as nothing ever before, many people still don't have no idea how big this market will be.
It seems most people in comments think it wouldn't. The truth is though, they have their bias opinions….with no actual understanding of it. Once Elon and his companies get their F..cking shit together. It will happen, just matter of time.🙄😒
Bro, it can a lot more than that of cause. The actual problem is Tesla hasn't been proven to product enough of them for more different companies to invest in. Once they actual start getting them. Different companies that do completely different things. Then it wouldn't be just chips and drinks.🙄
No, it can carry full loads, with 1000 lb identical to a diesel rig! And Pepsico uses its Semi at full load... transporting beverages. Over here in Europe, due to the 2 to load allowance given to e-trucks, the Semi could carry 1-2 to MORE than a diesel!
The future for Entry Level Teslas seems to be LFP batteries right now. That what is in the new Model 3 and why it doesn’t get the $7,500 credit because those are currently Made in China. Tesla has bought equipment from CATL to set up in Nevada to produce LFP batteries, but they claim this is for the MEGA Pack factory in Lathrop, CA so hard to say. That definitely will affect the Made in USA status of the current Model 3.
Hydro won't completely take over, of course demand will split between two different products slowly developing infrastructure so the solution to net zero is to diversify like that between technologies because it will level out demand and ease things up.
0:10 “Shrouded in mystery” This seems to the excuse to make a video but Tesla’s Semi truck and Pepsi’s truck are well known along with performance recordings.
Charge time? Or is there going to be battery quick change stations? Either going to be slow or going to feel like they need a service appointment every day.
With the semi mega charger, reaching 70% from 0 should take just 30 minutes. Considering truckers are required to take a 30-minute break every 3 hours, it appears that charging won't pose a challenge. However, significantly increasing electricity production will be necessary if we intend to replace all diesel trucks with electric ones. Generating 750 kW requires a substantial amount of energy and a very good infrastructure.
@@NaxmarsVideos Thats true. You're the first person in this lot of comments that actually seem to understand whats going on.😎 With that said though, it would be nice to actually have faster and a-lot more stops to do so. That way, most haters, would actually stop complaining.😒
Charging a Semi is done ENTIRELY during mandatory rest time of the driver, during loading/offloading, or at the occasion of shift changes. ZERO need for battery swapping!
Hydrogen engine production is a trip down a dead end road. For people who won't buy an EV automobile because of "range anxiety," show me all the hydrogen fueling stations in the US. They're all but shut down in Europe because of such little demand. GM has become famous for going down the wrong road when it comes to new tech. Remember Lordstown Motors? Remember Nickola semi's? GM can't get their EV automotive shit together and now they're going to wander off with Honda into a Hydrogen sunset? Better keep an eye on their stock.
Hydrogen is shutting down. It takes 3x the electricity to make hydrogen than put it in an EV. Once the mega chargers are more common, Tesla semis will be very popular. Imagine if every Walmart had a Tesla Semi charger... A few freeway adjacent chargers will make this happen. Good they debugged before mass production. The miles per day say it all. $200k in fuel savings...
The hydrogen chargers aren't cheap, aren't reliable, and can't charge very many vehicles per day. If you can't fuel a vehicle, it's useless. Which brings me to a huge issue. You can't fuel it in your garage. It's a huge problem because there aren't enough fueling stations yet. Also, those tanks take up a lot of room in the car. So hydrogen has other problems too, and ones that would have to be solved before it could take off.
@@greebeena2818Pro compared to what? Gasoline? Also, you still have to compress it to 10,000 psi. The problem is, EVs go 2-3 times as far on a kwh, have more space in the car, and perform much better. Also, EV chargers don't explode.
A battery factory? For Panasonic? What, Tesla is uncomfortable working in the same building as Panasonic? IS this evidence of this partnership strain? !
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@@markc6714 oh well. Have you notice the dramatic increase in evs. And have you noticed the increase in range for evs over the last five years and have you noticed the increase in electric buses have you kept an eye on battery developments. Get with it bro. Fossil fuels are out Check out the electric Viking you tubes and you will soon change your mind . You will be driving an ev in a couple of years. There fantastic. And no more air pollution no more noise and so much safer.
Very surprised that Tesla isn't capitalizing on retired men. Using a modified shortened workday of 3 hrs, older men could produce some semis. 6 shifts per day could employ some guys for one shift, while others might take 2 shifts with a generous 3 hour break between shifts. Tesla could reinvent the retirement regime and perhaps save the government some social security money.
I don't understand why you'd be very surprised by this in particular. (Especially as this sounds like something you yourself came up with, correct me if I'm wrong). First of all, this would be completely antithetical to how Elon Musk operates. He is all about hiring the best and most productive people he can, and creating a lean and effective workforce. Elon hates under-performers. He'd rather hire one over-performer instead of 10 under-performers and then squeeze every bit of productivity out of him. Hiring pensioners for reduced shifts sounds completely bizarre in this context. In any case, this is a moot point as Tesla's bottleneck with regards to the Semi is battery cells, not manpower.
@@iandavies4853 Musk was famous for being a successful college dropout. He may now have an honorary degree, but I seriously doubt he earned any degree. Putin does well for himself too. Your points fall flat.
@@clavo3352 Musk has two bachelor's degrees - he did a double major in physics and economics. He dropped out of the PhD program. I think the point @iandavies4853 was trying to make is that economic theory might be a touch overrated.
The trucks are already useful for set, short routes where the trucks can sit and charge at their home bases each night, so they might as well start selling them as soon as they can. So far the companies that have the trucks use them on routes that do not need charging stations, and know all about this before the trucks are purchased.
Hydrogen is basically dead. Way way way too expensive. Won't be a competitor to BEVs for vehicles. They're actually not that much faster to fill, nor do they have significantly more range any more. And again, way more expensive, which is an imports to bottom line for companies.
Hydrogen is probably for airplanes and ship's. And for the later, very rich combustion car enthusiasts that can pay for the higher price of hydrogen. I do believe there will be a point that there is a battery hydrogen hybrid at some point. 200km battery rang and a hydrogen tank for some extra electricity for the longer distance. The battery for daily commutes and the hydrogen for going on long distances vacations or so. But maybe batteries get so good that this step is skipped.
@@ArthurDeKeersmaeker batteries have already surpassed hydrogen for vehicles. We will not see any large scale production of hydrogen vehicles of any kind. Toyota tried to push the H2 powered Murai. It has only sold 22,000 units since 2014. An abysmal failure. Hydrogen filling stations are being quietly closed as they have no customers and are incredibly expensive to keep running. Hydrogen trucks and buses have been built mainly for government projects for decades. They all get quietly scrapped due to cost. Over and over and over and over. No one will pay for an expensive H2 powered car as they suck compared BEVs or gas. There's no advantage to them. As I said, hydrogen is dead. Just because companies and governments still open the casket now and then and make its arms dance to a happy-sounding environmentally friendly song lip synced by oil and gas execs doesn't change that fact.
At that rate you are getting about 4.6 MPG or .22 gallons per mile. Most electric vehicles are rated at watts/kilowatts per mile, so let’s compare the costs per mile. Gas prices vary so here’s a few rates: $4 per gallon is $0.88 per mile $5 per gallon is $1.10 per mile $6 per gallon is $1.32 per mile In an article Pepsi states that their Tesla semi is using about 1.7 kW per mile. Here are some costs based on charging rates: $0.10 per kW is $0.17 per mile $0.30 per kW is $0.51 per mile $0.50 per kW is $0.85 per mile This is a very basic comparison for fuel use. Both diesel and electricity rates vary. Most public fast chargers are closer to the $0.50 per kW than $0.10 per kW. Pepsi is probably paying closer to the $0.10 per kW which is why they are seeing huge savings. This is why people who can charge their EVs at home see the biggest benefits of EV ownership while those that can only use superchargers don’t see the savings. Prices for both will probably change, but who knows which will change and in what direction.
in Australia a single diesel truck does the job of up to 4 single american trucks all day long and they are just around 650hp, imagine if they were 1000hp!
I really doubt that the 500 mile Semi will cost $180k--that is based on the initial launch event in 2017, and we know prices have changed since then. I would guess $300k for the 300 mile model and $400k for the 500 mile model. Tesla will not want to use the 4680 cells for the Semi, because the Semi needs the fastest charging, and the 4680 is having trouble with fast charging. Tesla will have to stick with the 2170 as long as the 4680 doesn't have good fast charging, and it appears to me that the cooling is not very good for the 4680, although it is hard to know for sure what is limiting the fast charging.
Considering that Shell closed all its hydrogen stations in the UK and California and in Norway the hydrogen stations are also disappearing, I seen very little future for hydrogen.
why dont they fit solar cells on the trailer? I'm just a dummy but if you have that free area, it seems like a choice. Or maybe im a lil too dumb with dumb ideas lol
“The biggest product in 2024 is quite literally is their Semi Truck” is a complete lie. The Cyber Truck is their best addition to 2024. They won’t have Semis everywhere until like 2026
If it was up to me, I’ll pick the semi because thats where most of the money would came because theres actual a need for them. Yes, the cars are important too…but heres the thing. Those people are not loyal consumers. Being the fact, EVs now have more of choice where to go.
What is a full-cell without any full, Hydrogen is not green, oil/gas is used to make hydrogen, using electricity to make hydrogen is very wasteful and there is no hydrogen fulling intrastucture and it is very expensive to build. Electricity is everywhere, to easy to make chargers.
No way will a 900 kWh battery pack in a Tesla semi truck be $180,000. In California alone fleets under 20 trucks get $240,000 off the truck., so I think it’s going to be upwards of $500,000 landed.
Sure can - just not every possible route and condition. Good fleet managers can peg them to specific runs and make bank on fuel savings. One size, does not need to fit all...
Four hours in the morning, top up over lunch, four hours afternoon. Quite a bit of tractor trailer traffic is short range, per government stats that Tesla showed. If a company develops a few hundred bases around the country, it could get trailers across the country with those four hour shifts, and drivers operating within four hours of their base. When new technology arises, it doesn't need to mimic the old, like cement columns pointlessly fluted to look like wood columns with their ribs covering joins. Eventually someone realizes that you can build with the new material without looking exactly like the old, and needless copying of the old goes away, like marathon drives across the country. Transporting goods is the need, not eight hour shifts straight through, which the EU doesn't do, but still transports goods. Three weeks on the road will probably be seen as an anachronism, once fuel savings outweigh tradition.
Coke is buying trucks from BYD, a Chinese vehicle brand, which already makes buses and some trucks in America, and plans on doing so in Mexico in collaboration with Coca-Cola. The Chinese companies are the real alternative to Tesla, as shown by which overseas companies hold their own in China against the Chinese companies (only Tesla). And like the Japanese before them, the Chinese companies are planning (or building or operating) plants inside NAFTA and the EU. RIP the rest, within the decade, because they're already not cost competitive, even with nearly entirely Chinese parts.
So clearly the semis are working well considering Tesla is building a dedicated factory to build them. nothing irks me more in the summer than having to have my car window up because of all the loud smokey diesels on the road passing through town ...especially at stop lights. So I'm am all for getting the diesels off the road more so than even gasoline cars. Time is money in transport and watching thes etrucks lumbering along tryiing to get going after stopping is a waste of money for them and a pain in th eback side for everyone else stuck behind them so instant torgue , instant acceleration = more more money for them and less frustration for all the traffic behind them. Fueling Costs are 1/2 the price of Disel ..not even counting no more engine breakdowns, badexhausts costs etc.. For someone like me always looking for companies that can increase profit margins..I'l be keeping an eye on Truckin companies that are going to be making the switch to electric ..increaseing profit margins= increase stock price
the funny thing is that in Australia a 650hp diesel semi truck can literaly haul up to 4x the load of that tesla to cover tousands of miles! thats what i call efficiency and performance! supplying remote communities. delivering all kinds of goods all around the country even through deserts....
5:14 That right there is the infeasability of the gaps argument at this point. I would not be surpised at all if the power volume expense dwarfed every other consideration for replacing diesel with electricity for trucking. The grid as it is cannot handle that much juice. A diesel semi refueling at normal speed has an equivalent power of several megawatts! Imagine the transmission lines that would be required to every flying J's, Loves, Pilot, etc. They fuel like 50 semis at a time. Each station would need its own nuclear powerplant otherwise the tranmission costs would be absurd
Yet somehow our manufacturing industry runs on electricity from time of Edison, even electric arc steel furnaces. Must be magic. How big are present supercharger stations now? 84 version 3 stalls 250kW chargers in Arizona.
@alexanderx33 there were 1.2 million BEVs added to USA electrical grid last year, population increased, and yet electricity usage was down in the USA in 2023. The narrative that the grid won’t be able to handle it is a complete myth
In general thank you for this informative video. I found the Greta slam unnecessary and offensive. There is no need to diminish the efforts of a passionate young woman seeking to help advocate for a safer, healthier world for future generations. She has claimed no expertise and only is asking lawmakers to more fully consider the scientific findings of those studying the issue and that they act with compassion toward future generations as they will inherit a more degraded world due to our slow, less than adequate responses to the climate challenges we face. Like Elon, she is widely known to be on the autistic spectrum. This compels her and helps her hyper-focus on our environmental issues, but may also cause her to come across as awkward, or tone death in how she presents herself. Be better, as Melania implored us. Do not bully our kids.
EV semi are the stupidist idea, small cars yea i can see the value but one thing evs suck at its hauling weight and long distance. if one of these burns that fire would be HUGE. the charge time would make it useless as a truck. they cost more, the do much much less and if we have fleets of them they will cause large issue in power generation. we are all ready struggling with 10+%ev cars now picture 1000s if trucks in the winter. look at the issue of EV bus fleets for the future of semi evs. they don't work scaled up like this this EV stuffs went too far. why not stick to small cars? that while have a lot of issues CAN make some sense for some people?
This is still not good as a diesel truck can do up to 2000 miles. Drivers in most districts can drive 16hrs a day. which means a company can travel 3-4 times farther each day.... the 18 days could have been done in 10-12 days...
what you are referring to is short haul vs long haul... that generally means you can sleep in your truck with long haul. long haul makes up about 60-70% of the semi's you see in your day to day life. as the money for drivers is in long haul... generally short haul drivers are family men and only take trips that tesla would work... but thats about 30% of all transportation... which is why i say its not quite ready yet.@@davidw4664
Lmao. It makes me laugh when they say "saving the environment." Do y'all know what they have to do to make those batteries? Probably not. It's worse for the environment than drilling for oil
The other players won't fight back with hybrid solutions. There is no point. Electric greater than hybrid benefits. They lose if they play that game. Thanks
We don't want anything with a tailpipe. Not only because of pollution but because of the need for centralized fuel supply. We want fully electric to sever reliance on fuel companies.
How do you morons think the power comes from? Wishing? Child labor used to harvest nickel in Africa. You guys are lying to yourselves about saving the planet. All you are doing is creating a lot more toxic waste.
Great, a semi with a 3 ton carrying capacity that can't go very far. A regular semi has a carrying capacity of 19 tons and can cross the country on a full tank. In a job where you get paid on how much you transport I'm sure they'll love the 3 ton limit.
The EV Experiment (which was already tried back in the late 1800's/1900's) is coming to another crash and demise. All we have to do is look how Hertz is dumping 20,000 EV's and going back to ICEV's.
No wonder that Pepsi prices goes significantly up because of semi shit Trucks which cannot deliver on time and enough so they charge alot and some stores dont want to accept their drinks anymore
I live in the mountains of Colorado, and an EV is my only car. And I road trip a lot. Not been a problem. The batteries are heated and cooled as needed, you know.
@@hansbambach4854 Norway is the world leader for BEV adoption and they are doing just fine. Id tell you it’s cold there but you probably wouldn’t believe me so I won’t bother.
Whenever I hear the word hydrogen and vehicles I switch off. Hydrogen vehicles will never take off.
The infrastructure never will
Space shuttle was hydrogen fuelled, it took off … like a rocket. ;-)
Otherwise, use as fuel is incredibly niche.
This was exactly people's attitude toward electric vehicles 20 years ago.
@@SebastianWellsTL or towards nuclear fusion.
Hydrogen has been pushed for 4 decades, isn’t any closer.
@SebastianWellsTL The problem is electricity is a great alternative to hydrogen. Nothing about hydrogen is better than electricity that is stored directly into batteries.
Hydrogen? Really?
Yes really !
pure bs, power density is just awful 😂
@@chiboreache well-to-wheel efficiency is even worse.
Ask your self why they are rolling out hydrogen faster than batteries for this application. 🧐they know all about the efficiency!
@@lesliecarter4295 Or, is it because they control the infrastructure and profit from it? While electricity is easily produce even by simple consumer using solar panel. Don't get me wrong hydrogen will be very useful for planes and needs to be developped. For truck, with madatory 30 minutes breaks every 3H in most contries developping mega chargers is a much better choice. 90% of the produced energy goes to the wheels using battery, with hydrogen it's less than 70% (being nice). Even financially it does not make sense.
I think u need to listen to the q4 call again. Drew Baglino explicitly said they have enough 4680's for all their vehicles and that they are ramping.
Also as you said there will not be much more orders for semi until Tesla has built out its 750kwh mega charging network.
This is not specif to Tesla, the other OEMs will have to do the same and build out their mega charging network, unless they are going to make the same mistake before and sit around for public charging, which ia simply not going to happen.
Thank you, this comment is better than the video
Public charging provided by NACS. The only network with the guts, cash and will to do it.
The others can then follow as usual.
Replying just to bump this comment up
This comment is correct, I was looking through the comments hoping someone saved me the time.
Only piece of new information I learned from this video is that no more Semi trucks have been delivered beyond the initial 36 trucks to PepsiCo.
Yes and there have not been any deliveries. Pepsi has around 30+ that we are aware of and the number appears to have not grown much since
Yep
@@bayly1977 Have you seen how the Tesla innovation shares have been performing lately?
@@dasoda_h_nahuel 🙄 have you seen how their actual products have been performing?
@@bayly1977 Their products are impressive
Dude. Get this through your head.
Fuel cells are not competitive with batteries. They never will be. The cost per unit of energy delivered to the wheel is simply too high. 2 to 3 times higher than for batteries in fact. It's a pipe dream that the passenger car market has finally woken up from.
(Which is why they came out with synthetic fuels again, they needed something else to pull over our eyes)
Just as fuel cells have failed in passenger cars, they are going to fail in freight. Large truck manufacturers are already starting to wake up, and switching from fuel cell plans to battery electric reality.
Again, fuel cells are 2 to 3 times more expensive per unit of mass transported over unit of distance, compared to BEVs.
Also, freight fleet operators don't have range anxiety. They have spreadsheets.
Brilliant.
The odd explosion in truck or filling station will see hydrogen go way of Hindenburg.
In trucking, cost rules.
Driving BEV opens up available labour pool, it’s so easy.
@@sunrisejak2709 world has been controlled by OPEC for decades, esp since 1972.
Hydrogen is made from steam reformation of methane gas. So it’s still fossil fuel.
Extremely difficult to transport to say Japan, it’s leaky, extremely cold, ultra high pressure, causes embrittlement.
Loves to explode, over huge range of concentrations in atmosphere, way worse than methane.
China isn’t the problem, they actually have more of the RE solution than USA does, or Europe.
You lose all credibility if you ignore economics. Hydrogen is expensive. Green hydrogen will be worse.
You’d have to be Joe McCarthy to be so obsessed by China, willing to toss economics into dung heap.
@@sunrisejak2709 dude, no offense, but that's a bunch of nonsense. First of all, anytime someone makes the argument about hydrogen being the most abundant element, you know they haven't done their homework. Incidentally, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, but not on Earth. Most of it is contained in stars. But that doesn't actually matter here.
First of all, lithium is not like oil. It's not some scarce resource that will make the world beholden to some messed up region of the world. The stuff is everywhere. Most of it is actually currently mined in South America and Australia. But there are massive reserves all over the world, including the USA that are just starting to be mined or will be soon. There are other metals involved, sure, but the story is similar here. And the battery chemistries keep evolving to optimize the inputs. For instance, the most politically problematic element - Cobalt, has been phased out of many chemistries. Not to mention some widely used chemistries like Lithium Iron Phosphate never used any to begin with. There's another class of batteries coming online right now - sodium batteries, which uses a principal element that's even more abundant than lithium. Also, unlike oil, the use of these materials is non-depletive. You don't burn up those elements when you use the battery - every atom is still there. And they can be pulled out with very high percentage yields.
Going with batteries won't make you dependent on China. It does currently, because China manufactures the most cells in the world. But there are giant factories being built as we speak, in the US and elsewhere in Europe.
Secondly, you'd better believe it's primarily about cost of transportation. Why do you think the world is addicted to oil? Is it because there is no other technology or energy source that could possibly move a car? No. It's because for a hundred years oil has been the only cost-effective and practical source of energy for transportation. If cost didn't matter, countries could run on liquefied charcoal or whatever, like they do in North Korea. Instead countries have been locked in a struggle to control the supply of oil for decades now. Not because it's the only option, but because it's been the only practical and economical one - which de-facto made it the only option.
Countries can afford to subsidize an emerging technology while it's getting started. Certain companies and organizations can too. And they can definitely afford doing BS publicity stunts, like buying a few hydrogen buses, building a few refueling stations, and then proclaiming that hydrogen is the future. But nobody can afford to keep the show going. There is no country on Earth that can afford to pay 3 times more than necessary per unit of energy for their transportation. (No real country, that is. I'm sure a "country" like the Vatican with their couple dozen vehicles and massive inflow of money from Christians worldwide could manage.) Any country that has tried to bring about the hydrogen economy has found out that it's impractical and wildly uneconomical. And any country that would choose to push through despite these findings would be committing an economic suicide.
Please wake up. Hydrogen is a pipe dream.
@@zlozlozlo Hydrogen is in water. And water covers like 78% of the earth's surface. Period. China controls directly or indirectly about 80% of the earth's mineral resources. This is not a great position unless of course your Chinese. On a similar vein China generates or processes over 90% of the world medicinal raw materials. Imagine if they turn off thst tap?! Why all the efforts chasing hydrogen? It's a huge global effort! Enormous sums of money and research allocated. Why? I'm not saying it's practical, but finding energy sources free of oil and mining is the geopolitical goal.
@@sunrisejak2709 again, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Most of it is contained in stars though. In Earth's crust (which is the part that's easily available to us) oxygen is actually the most abundant element at about 46%. Also if you want to get nitpicky, Earth's surface is a drop in the bucket compared to Earth's total volume. So, yeah, your comments about my education are a touch ironic.
But again, this fact is completely irrelevant to the whole debate. No matter how many times Toyota pays Michio Kaku to parrot this fact on stage or in a promo video. We could have 1% the hydrogen we have and it would still be enough to have a hydrogen economy. The problem with hydrogen is not the abundance of the element. The problem with hydrogen is that:
a) here on Earth it's not an energy source. It doesn't occur in a high energy state (H2 molecules) on Earth almost at all. It exists primarily in low energy state (bound into water or hydrocarbons) and for it to be useful we need to add the energy (split the molecules). Therefore it's not an energy source, at best it's usable as an energy storage medium. Which is unfortunate, because,
b) as an energy storage medium it REALLY sucks. Hydrogen is difficult to handle, has piss-poor energy density, and loses badly to batteries on efficiency alone.
But as I mentioned, there's a lot of hydrogen in the stars, and wouldn't you know it, it's in a high energy state. So go mine the sun you plonker.
Two errors. The price quoted of $180k for the Semi is not industry estimate, it is 2017 announced price. Most likely much higher now. $250k has been rumored.
4680 cell manufacturing problems seem to be behind them now. Ramping up production at Giga Texas faster than the ramp of Cybertruck. They are now targeting 5GWh/yr/line with 8 lines running later this year. I believe excess 4680 cell production will go to the Semi.
You may be correct but even at half a million purchase price they will still save so much over time .
8:10 "I can figure out the dry coating. And don't call me Shirley."
Local/inter-local makes the most sense. No sleeper, single axle with 35’ trailer, 100 to 200 mile routes, no idling, return to base to recharge every night. Maybe even some Class 6 box.
As for OTR, I’ve seen the video; not bad, but that must have been one slow moving rig with all the cars/Class 8 passing it. A real test would be I-70 westbound out of Denver to Richfield, UT. 470 miles with four high passes (Eisenhower, Vail, Spotted Wolf and Salina Canyon). Run that on a single charge and color me impressed.
I just calculated your proposed route from Denver to Richfield, UT, which I know quite well having studied at CU in Boulder. I computed all up and downhills, using known drive train efficiencies (in traction or regenerative braking).
Now, prepared to be impressed!
The Tesla Semi can do that route ON A SINGLE CHARGE, but admittedly not at full load. The load must be at or below 35'000 lb (which is a class-8 truck median load in the US). The Semi should also be driving at an average 55 mph... which seems quite reasonable given the terrain!
Over here in Europe, given that a truck's max daily range is limited by the driver's hours at the wheel, and not by its battery capacity, the Tesla Semi could easily do the longest of long-haul duties, at full European loads of some 25 ton or 55'000 lb!
Please note that the absolute longest distance a truck can legally cover daily in Europe is 506 miles, but the average on long-haul duties is more 420-450 miles per day, because of traffic. Speed limit for heavy trucks is 80 km/h (50 mph) or 90 km/h (56 mph), depending on the country. And max hours at the wheel is 9 hours in any 24-hour period, leaving up to 15 hours for recharging the battery!!!
@@st-ex8506 Not at full load. OK, like the original video, there are caveats. My original usage of local/inter-local makes the most sense, yet it carries less bang for the buck of publicity than the OTR. I’m too practical, I guess.
And, yes, I’ve run that same route many, many times in a 90 Plymouth Grand Voyager, a 2000 Ford Windstar, a 13 Altima and a 19 Santa Fe.
Love your content, keep up the good work guys!
Always nicely done, thank you good sir!
E-Trucks will be a very big thing, at the high mileages of trucks this will be a gamechanger as nothing ever before, many people still don't have no idea how big this market will be.
It seems most people in comments think it wouldn't. The truth is though, they have their bias opinions….with no actual understanding of it. Once Elon and his companies get their F..cking shit together. It will happen, just matter of time.🙄😒
Can it still only carry bags of chips?
It can carry Doritos as well.
Yep
Bro, it can a lot more than that of cause. The actual problem is Tesla hasn't been proven to product enough of them for more different companies to invest in. Once they actual start getting them. Different companies that do completely different things. Then it wouldn't be just chips and drinks.🙄
No, it can carry full loads, with 1000 lb identical to a diesel rig! And Pepsico uses its Semi at full load... transporting beverages.
Over here in Europe, due to the 2 to load allowance given to e-trucks, the Semi could carry 1-2 to MORE than a diesel!
The future for Entry Level Teslas seems to be LFP batteries right now. That what is in the new Model 3 and why it doesn’t get the $7,500 credit because those are currently Made in China. Tesla has bought equipment from CATL to set up in Nevada to produce LFP batteries, but they claim this is for the MEGA Pack factory in Lathrop, CA so hard to say. That definitely will affect the Made in USA status of the current Model 3.
❤Tesla ⚡️🇺🇸
EV > ICE
Hydro won't completely take over, of course demand will split between two different products slowly developing infrastructure so the solution to net zero is to diversify like that between technologies because it will level out demand and ease things up.
No mention of cargo load limit?
Never, still can’t find it anywhere 🤔
5 metric tons
@@panjak323 Is that all?
Now that we know the weight of the Semi (23k lb for the 500-mile version, and
@@panjak323 Ridiculous! Over here in Europe, a Semi's payload would be in excess of 25 metric tons!!! Actually MORE than that of a diesel rig!
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“Shrouded in mystery”
This seems to the excuse to make a video but Tesla’s Semi truck and Pepsi’s truck are well known along with performance recordings.
Charge time? Or is there going to be battery quick change stations? Either going to be slow or going to feel like they need a service appointment every day.
With the semi mega charger, reaching 70% from 0 should take just 30 minutes. Considering truckers are required to take a 30-minute break every 3 hours, it appears that charging won't pose a challenge. However, significantly increasing electricity production will be necessary if we intend to replace all diesel trucks with electric ones. Generating 750 kW requires a substantial amount of energy and a very good infrastructure.
@@NaxmarsVideos Thats true. You're the first person in this lot of comments that actually seem to understand whats going on.😎
With that said though, it would be nice to actually have faster and a-lot more stops to do so. That way, most haters, would actually stop complaining.😒
Charging a Semi is done ENTIRELY during mandatory rest time of the driver, during loading/offloading, or at the occasion of shift changes. ZERO need for battery swapping!
Hydrogen engine production is a trip down a dead end road. For people who won't buy an EV automobile because of "range anxiety," show me all the hydrogen fueling stations in the US. They're all but shut down in Europe because of such little demand. GM has become famous for going down the wrong road when it comes to new tech. Remember Lordstown Motors? Remember Nickola semi's? GM can't get their EV automotive shit together and now they're going to wander off with Honda into a Hydrogen sunset? Better keep an eye on their stock.
Joe will rescue Mary.
Hydrogen is shutting down. It takes 3x the electricity to make hydrogen than put it in an EV.
Once the mega chargers are more common, Tesla semis will be very popular. Imagine if every Walmart had a Tesla Semi charger... A few freeway adjacent chargers will make this happen.
Good they debugged before mass production. The miles per day say it all. $200k in fuel savings...
The hydrogen chargers aren't cheap, aren't reliable, and can't charge very many vehicles per day. If you can't fuel a vehicle, it's useless. Which brings me to a huge issue. You can't fuel it in your garage. It's a huge problem because there aren't enough fueling stations yet. Also, those tanks take up a lot of room in the car. So hydrogen has other problems too, and ones that would have to be solved before it could take off.
Hydrogen isn't that bad. Pros include being able to be manufactured on site with solar power and water.
@@greebeena2818Pro compared to what? Gasoline? Also, you still have to compress it to 10,000 psi. The problem is, EVs go 2-3 times as far on a kwh, have more space in the car, and perform much better. Also, EV chargers don't explode.
Didn't somebody smart, like some engineer in the hall of engineer fame or somthin' say "hydrogen is a fool's errand"?
Bravo,...bravo!
Semi delivery is as slow as molasses.
Congrats 🎉 to 400,000 subscribers!
A battery factory? For Panasonic? What, Tesla is uncomfortable working in the same building as Panasonic? IS this evidence of this partnership strain?
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We want one is Australia
No we don't
@@markc6714 sorry buddy. we will have several in the next few years.
@@vincentsmith9562 they won't even make it Sydney to Melbourne. Pathetic and in the heat they'll have thermal runaway like the cement Australia truck
@@markc6714 oh well. Have you notice the dramatic increase in evs. And have you noticed the increase in range for evs over the last five years and have you noticed the increase in electric buses have you kept an eye on battery developments. Get with it bro. Fossil fuels are out Check out the electric Viking you tubes and you will soon change your mind . You will be driving an ev in a couple of years. There fantastic. And no more air pollution no more noise and so much safer.
We really don’t. It’s useless
Very surprised that Tesla isn't capitalizing on retired men. Using a modified shortened workday of 3 hrs, older men could produce some semis. 6 shifts per day could employ some guys for one shift, while others might take 2 shifts with a generous 3 hour break between shifts. Tesla could reinvent the retirement regime and perhaps save the government some social security money.
I don't understand why you'd be very surprised by this in particular. (Especially as this sounds like something you yourself came up with, correct me if I'm wrong).
First of all, this would be completely antithetical to how Elon Musk operates. He is all about hiring the best and most productive people he can, and creating a lean and effective workforce. Elon hates under-performers. He'd rather hire one over-performer instead of 10 under-performers and then squeeze every bit of productivity out of him. Hiring pensioners for reduced shifts sounds completely bizarre in this context.
In any case, this is a moot point as Tesla's bottleneck with regards to the Semi is battery cells, not manpower.
@@zlozlozlo yeah you're right; after all Elon doesn't have a wholistic; Adam Smith, view of economics.
@@clavo3352Musk has a degree in economics, seems to do OK for himself.
Urban legend is you won’t get two economists agree on the subject.
@@iandavies4853 Musk was famous for being a successful college dropout. He may now have an honorary degree, but I seriously doubt he earned any degree. Putin does well for himself too. Your points fall flat.
@@clavo3352 Musk has two bachelor's degrees - he did a double major in physics and economics. He dropped out of the PhD program. I think the point @iandavies4853 was trying to make is that economic theory might be a touch overrated.
Did Run on Less compare to diesel fuel? Can you please link the study?
Just do a search on Google or bing if you like.
Why isn’t Tesla building charging stations WAY ahead of there trucks since they don’t require waiting for batteries?
Because it's all vapourware.
The trucks are already useful for set, short routes where the trucks can sit and charge at their home bases each night, so they might as well start selling them as soon as they can. So far the companies that have the trucks use them on routes that do not need charging stations, and know all about this before the trucks are purchased.
The companies making hydrogen cars and chargers say it will never work, I would listen to people who actually did it and know
Hydrogen is basically dead. Way way way too expensive. Won't be a competitor to BEVs for vehicles. They're actually not that much faster to fill, nor do they have significantly more range any more. And again, way more expensive, which is an imports to bottom line for companies.
Hydrogen is probably for airplanes and ship's. And for the later, very rich combustion car enthusiasts that can pay for the higher price of hydrogen.
I do believe there will be a point that there is a battery hydrogen hybrid at some point. 200km battery rang and a hydrogen tank for some extra electricity for the longer distance. The battery for daily commutes and the hydrogen for going on long distances vacations or so.
But maybe batteries get so good that this step is skipped.
@@ArthurDeKeersmaeker batteries have already surpassed hydrogen for vehicles. We will not see any large scale production of hydrogen vehicles of any kind. Toyota tried to push the H2 powered Murai. It has only sold 22,000 units since 2014. An abysmal failure. Hydrogen filling stations are being quietly closed as they have no customers and are incredibly expensive to keep running. Hydrogen trucks and buses have been built mainly for government projects for decades. They all get quietly scrapped due to cost. Over and over and over and over. No one will pay for an expensive H2 powered car as they suck compared BEVs or gas. There's no advantage to them. As I said, hydrogen is dead. Just because companies and governments still open the casket now and then and make its arms dance to a happy-sounding environmentally friendly song lip synced by oil and gas execs doesn't change that fact.
Let me know when refresh no. 5 comes out and pull through charging stations.
The truck/trailer is now parked
I go 770 miles a day in my 2006
Peterbilt 387 with a CAT C-15, 1,375 miles on full tanks 300 gallons at 80,000 pounds.
At that rate you are getting about 4.6 MPG or .22 gallons per mile. Most electric vehicles are rated at watts/kilowatts per mile, so let’s compare the costs per mile.
Gas prices vary so here’s a few rates:
$4 per gallon is $0.88 per mile
$5 per gallon is $1.10 per mile
$6 per gallon is $1.32 per mile
In an article Pepsi states that their Tesla semi is using about 1.7 kW per mile. Here are some costs based on charging rates:
$0.10 per kW is $0.17 per mile
$0.30 per kW is $0.51 per mile
$0.50 per kW is $0.85 per mile
This is a very basic comparison for fuel use. Both diesel and electricity rates vary. Most public fast chargers are closer to the $0.50 per kW than $0.10 per kW. Pepsi is probably paying closer to the $0.10 per kW which is why they are seeing huge savings. This is why people who can charge their EVs at home see the biggest benefits of EV ownership while those that can only use superchargers don’t see the savings.
Prices for both will probably change, but who knows which will change and in what direction.
in Australia a single diesel truck does the job of up to 4 single american trucks all day long and they are just around 650hp, imagine if they were 1000hp!
And what's the carbon footprint for the battery production? That is 5 years to break even? Life of battery?
I really doubt that the 500 mile Semi will cost $180k--that is based on the initial launch event in 2017, and we know prices have changed since then. I would guess $300k for the 300 mile model and $400k for the 500 mile model.
Tesla will not want to use the 4680 cells for the Semi, because the Semi needs the fastest charging, and the 4680 is having trouble with fast charging. Tesla will have to stick with the 2170 as long as the 4680 doesn't have good fast charging, and it appears to me that the cooling is not very good for the 4680, although it is hard to know for sure what is limiting the fast charging.
If you like the Tesla semi
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Any info on how much public monedy PepsiCo got from California in form of subsidy for testing Tesla Semi ?
EV Semi-Fleet, a startup out of Orlando, FL., ordered 50 2 years ago ($20k each deposit- $1M)
Only one customer? The rest have more sense.
Considering that Shell closed all its hydrogen stations in the UK and California and in Norway the hydrogen stations are also disappearing, I seen very little future for hydrogen.
560 miles is pretty rough to be honest
yah, but Hydrogen cost minimu 3-4 times as much as electricity...
You'll be paying drivers just to charge it
And here I thought it was their megapacks...
why dont they fit solar cells on the trailer? I'm just a dummy but if you have that free area, it seems like a choice. Or maybe im a lil too dumb with dumb ideas lol
“The biggest product in 2024 is quite literally is their Semi Truck” is a complete lie. The Cyber Truck is their best addition to 2024. They won’t have Semis everywhere until like 2026
I am not worried about hydrogen competion, it is way more expensive and inefficiemt then electricity
Those would be the ones that broke down and needed towing.......
If it was up to me, I’ll pick the semi because thats where most of the money would came because theres actual a need for them. Yes, the cars are important too…but heres the thing. Those people are not loyal consumers. Being the fact, EVs now have more of choice where to go.
72,000 lbs is gross weight. What was the split between load carried versus vehicle weight?
They will never release that info. Wonder why? 😏
What is a full-cell without any full, Hydrogen is not green, oil/gas is used to make hydrogen, using electricity to make hydrogen is very wasteful and there is no hydrogen fulling intrastucture and it is very expensive to build. Electricity is everywhere, to easy to make chargers.
No way will a 900 kWh battery pack in a Tesla semi truck be $180,000. In California alone fleets under 20 trucks get $240,000 off the truck., so I think it’s going to be upwards of $500,000 landed.
Long story short electric trucks can't handle a regular eight hour shift
Exactly, if these were used at ports to move round to a Staging area for diesel or hybrid diesels then sure.
Sure can - just not every possible route and condition. Good fleet managers can peg them to specific runs and make bank on fuel savings. One size, does not need to fit all...
Four hours in the morning, top up over lunch, four hours afternoon. Quite a bit of tractor trailer traffic is short range, per government stats that Tesla showed. If a company develops a few hundred bases around the country, it could get trailers across the country with those four hour shifts, and drivers operating within four hours of their base. When new technology arises, it doesn't need to mimic the old, like cement columns pointlessly fluted to look like wood columns with their ribs covering joins. Eventually someone realizes that you can build with the new material without looking exactly like the old, and needless copying of the old goes away, like marathon drives across the country. Transporting goods is the need, not eight hour shifts straight through, which the EU doesn't do, but still transports goods. Three weeks on the road will probably be seen as an anachronism, once fuel savings outweigh tradition.
@@bearcubdaycare true charge on break
Long story shortstory, it can handle 8 hours shift but ignorance is prevalent.
Shell just closed all other their hydrogen stations......
That is only good in cities not over the road.
Maybe they can do an OTA fix to make it haul Coke
Coke is buying trucks from BYD, a Chinese vehicle brand, which already makes buses and some trucks in America, and plans on doing so in Mexico in collaboration with Coca-Cola. The Chinese companies are the real alternative to Tesla, as shown by which overseas companies hold their own in China against the Chinese companies (only Tesla). And like the Japanese before them, the Chinese companies are planning (or building or operating) plants inside NAFTA and the EU. RIP the rest, within the decade, because they're already not cost competitive, even with nearly entirely Chinese parts.
The Toyota logo is made from the letters T, O, Y and A.
It sells out T O Y O T A.
any idea on Tesla lithium in corpse city?
So clearly the semis are working well considering Tesla is building a dedicated factory to build them. nothing irks me more in the summer than having to have my car window up because of all the loud smokey diesels on the road passing through town ...especially at stop lights. So I'm am all for getting the diesels off the road more so than even gasoline cars. Time is money in transport and watching thes etrucks lumbering along tryiing to get going after stopping is a waste of money for them and a pain in th eback side for everyone else stuck behind them so instant torgue , instant acceleration = more more money for them and less frustration for all the traffic behind them.
Fueling Costs are 1/2 the price of Disel ..not even counting no more engine breakdowns, badexhausts costs etc.. For someone like me always looking for companies that can increase profit margins..I'l be keeping an eye on Truckin companies that are going to be making the switch to electric ..increaseing profit margins= increase stock price
the funny thing is that in Australia a 650hp diesel semi truck can literaly haul up to 4x the load of that tesla to cover tousands of miles! thats what i call efficiency and performance! supplying remote communities. delivering all kinds of goods all around the country even through deserts....
5:14 That right there is the infeasability of the gaps argument at this point.
I would not be surpised at all if the power volume expense dwarfed every other consideration for replacing diesel with electricity for trucking.
The grid as it is cannot handle that much juice. A diesel semi refueling at normal speed has an equivalent power of several megawatts! Imagine the transmission lines that would be required to every flying J's, Loves, Pilot, etc. They fuel like 50 semis at a time. Each station would need its own nuclear powerplant otherwise the tranmission costs would be absurd
Yet somehow our manufacturing industry runs on electricity from time of Edison, even electric arc steel furnaces.
Must be magic. How big are present supercharger stations now? 84 version 3 stalls 250kW chargers in Arizona.
@@iandavies4853 It was COAL that fueled the indusrial revolution. Steam power my friend.
@alexanderx33 there were 1.2 million BEVs added to USA electrical grid last year, population increased, and yet electricity usage was down in the USA in 2023. The narrative that the grid won’t be able to handle it is a complete myth
Tesla Semi RV with a roof and awnings filled with solar panels. Amazing!
Hmm car rental companies don't agree with this fleet saving idea for EVs they (eg Herz) are offloading like you wouldn't believe
So no upfates, thanks
Indeed, all Tesla vehicles are at the center of it. Who dismissed BYD in 2011 by laughing at their products during a Bloomberg interview?
Tesla range x 50% = real world range
Wow that means game over for Tesla!
In general thank you for this informative video. I found the Greta slam unnecessary and offensive. There is no need to diminish the efforts of a passionate young woman seeking to help advocate for a safer, healthier world for future generations. She has claimed no expertise and only is asking lawmakers to more fully consider the scientific findings of those studying the issue and that they act with compassion toward future generations as they will inherit a more degraded world due to our slow, less than adequate responses to the climate challenges we face. Like Elon, she is widely known to be on the autistic spectrum. This compels her and helps her hyper-focus on our environmental issues, but may also cause her to come across as awkward, or tone death in how she presents herself. Be better, as Melania implored us. Do not bully our kids.
EV semi are the stupidist idea, small cars yea i can see the value but one thing evs suck at its hauling weight and long distance. if one of these burns that fire would be HUGE. the charge time would make it useless as a truck.
they cost more, the do much much less and if we have fleets of them they will cause large issue in power generation. we are all ready struggling with 10+%ev cars now picture 1000s if trucks in the winter. look at the issue of EV bus fleets for the future of semi evs. they don't work scaled up like this
this EV stuffs went too far. why not stick to small cars? that while have a lot of issues CAN make some sense for some people?
This is still not good as a diesel truck can do up to 2000 miles. Drivers in most districts can drive 16hrs a day. which means a company can travel 3-4 times farther each day.... the 18 days could have been done in 10-12 days...
No all routes are long distances though
what you are referring to is short haul vs long haul... that generally means you can sleep in your truck with long haul. long haul makes up about 60-70% of the semi's you see in your day to day life. as the money for drivers is in long haul... generally short haul drivers are family men and only take trips that tesla would work... but thats about 30% of all transportation... which is why i say its not quite ready yet.@@davidw4664
Oh gimme a break .. didn't work, isn't working, not going to work - all vapourware. They are not available to order on website ... This is pure BS
Lmao. It makes me laugh when they say "saving the environment." Do y'all know what they have to do to make those batteries? Probably not. It's worse for the environment than drilling for oil
The other players won't fight back with hybrid solutions. There is no point. Electric greater than hybrid benefits. They lose if they play that game. Thanks
They lose cause they dumber
Hybrid is dumb I think. Thinking...
Hybrid = dumb. Honestly
Whaddya u think?
Think people think!
1:10 😅😅😅 despite the evidence it didn't.
What didn't? The NCAFE Run on Less truck event didn't take place?
Tesla thrashed 'em.
Embarrassing really.
I call BS on the range numbers
Fool me twice, shame on me. No Tesla!
Please cover Edison Motors
They are creating hybrid trucks that make sense
They can use all the coverage they can get.
We don't want anything with a tailpipe. Not only because of pollution but because of the need for centralized fuel supply. We want fully electric to sever reliance on fuel companies.
Not a fanboy but anti ignonance….
Hydrogen wont work.
Thank God for normalcy.
Dear HEAVENLY DAD,
THANK YOU so much for allowing my husband to be able to make these vehicles. So that all people will be able to drive.
HA HA HA HA BS channel! pump up so the shares go up!!! PUMP the hype
BS... No real life numbers.... Gross weight... How much net?
I love the Greta bit 😂
How do you morons think the power comes from? Wishing?
Child labor used to harvest nickel in Africa. You guys are lying to yourselves about saving the planet. All you are doing is creating a lot more toxic waste.
Why hydrogen dude it’s kinda pathetic and it’s expensive
HAs a study been done if on of these trucks catch fire? That large of battery will be a very large event.
Some Nikola Bev semi have already caught fire
Here’s the update….its going nowhere
Great, a semi with a 3 ton carrying capacity that can't go very far. A regular semi has a carrying capacity of 19 tons and can cross the country on a full tank. In a job where you get paid on how much you transport I'm sure they'll love the 3 ton limit.
Lots and lots of copium.
You can do something more for the world by giving the moniker "fossil" fuels the same derision as you do Greta Thunberg. That is admirable. Cheers
The EV Experiment (which was already tried back in the late 1800's/1900's) is coming to another crash and demise. All we have to do is look how Hertz is dumping 20,000 EV's and going back to ICEV's.
No wonder that Pepsi prices goes significantly up because of semi shit Trucks which cannot deliver on time and enough so they charge alot and some stores dont want to accept their drinks anymore
ICE is 💀
Tesla semi is going nowhere with current battery technology
Yep, you got it! The EV market here in the U.S. is crashing as NOBODY really wants them.
Can't believe you're still covering this crap 😂
Can't believe you're commenting on this crap. Why am I commenting on you commenting on this crap? I'm so confused. next video :)
These trucks will be great in freezing temp. Deliveries guaranteed…..not
I live in the mountains of Colorado, and an EV is my only car. And I road trip a lot. Not been a problem. The batteries are heated and cooled as needed, you know.
@@bearcubdaycare yeah sure I believe you. Lol
@@hansbambach4854 Norway is the world leader for BEV adoption and they are doing just fine. Id tell you it’s cold there but you probably wouldn’t believe me so I won’t bother.