What a surprise to see the karate nerd, not really if I think about his going to the roots in China videos ;-). Respect Jesse for your open mind and willingness to learn.
I didn't know Adam was a fellow Hakka! Now I have that warm fuzzy feeling inside. As said, Cantonese Wing Chun (HK style, Kulo style, Vietnamese style, and also Jesse Glover's Non classical kung fu), Hokkien martial arts (White Crane and its branches, Five Ancestors) AND Hakka martial arts ( I can only name SPM, Bak Mei and Lung Ying), surely have much in common, from the stand-up stance, concaved back, centre line, inch-power, shock power, close quarter fighting etc. It's very interesting to look for the uniqueness of each and incorporate it into your own personal style. Should also consider looking into Okinawan Uechi-ryu karate and Filipino Perkiti Tirsia! Man, those are really something! I LOVE all the martial arts, but like you, Hakka martial arts give me that warm feeling!
Hakka martial arts are my favorite when it comes to just straight combat. When I watch Wing Chun Forms, I see the snake, I see the crane, but I'm now seeing the dragon all over the place also. Particularly in forms like Chum Kiu. The low bong sau seems very dragon like, as well as just the body method of the form.
I've heard a theory that Wing Chun is an abridged form of Southern Dragon, chi sao being the same as Dragon Arms? I have no idea, just something being whispered around the internet. Any insight since you have experience in both, Adam?
Love the greater representation that the hakka style have been getting in recent times. But I would like to highlight that dragon, mantis, and bak mei are more indicative of arts that have migrated into the pearl river delta and represent a hk guanzhou flavor. Hakka styles from meizhou jiangxi have so much diversity that there isn't a unified shared theory of fighting. I just wanted people to be aware that there is so much diversity in practice that these well known styles represent less than 1/5 of what actually still exists but represent 90% of the international practice of Hakka styles due to their spread out of hk.
I really like this set of techniques, great demo. By the way, in the pak sao to elbow hammerfist, you're not just hammerfisting the forearm, but the nerve point just below the elbow on the outside of the forearm. Extra sneaky.
Even rarer than Loong Ying, I practice Shaolin Northern Dragon (Lung Jop Pai). We have a short range section that is essentially the same as Loong Ying with some slight, but important, variations. Our school's curriculum includes several Loong Ying forms though we point out where modifications are so we can differentiate northern from southern techniques.
I tried the shocking energy with the pak sao on an opponent's elbow! It really worked! My opponent couldn't redirect my shock energy, whereas if i just pressured normally he would be able to!
That was a great presentation and you highlighted the practicality and economy of motion as an expert as in it is simple once you understand it, yet I know you'll have a lot more insights. I appreciate it I'm stuck in a hospital trying to look at virtually anything as a visitor. I also like the way Wing Chun Kung fu adds a detailed context for that understanding to exist ; )
I love the last sequence of combos in the beginning @0:18 with your resting open palm facing up towards his neck or jaw line yet the back of the hand resting to feel his direction. I love the Dragon boxing. I once put my arm through an old pole for those old school lamps that faced the ceiling that was one of the first dimmers of it's time. The shade looks like a plate. I did a hammer fist but with the forearm swing inside and I folded this thing. Then I new right away how devastating they can be. Also the flow turning elbows that are more seen in Dragon Bagua can be lethal. Once again a great demonstration Adam. I wish you and your demonstrator friend a safe Happy Halloween. East Van 4 life
He's referenced it a few times in the past. Topics like that aren't really easy to teach properly online in my opinion. There's a lot of nuance and you need a proper teacher to guide you.
I can use fajin but teaching it online is something I wouldn’t know how to teach. There are simple things like the sway , the pulley system, the tightening at the last second, the rebound into the next circle. All these things can be discussed but the deeper internal rotations of the dantien and Kua are not easily discussed.
@@Ancientneutrality I'm saying simple standing meditation to acquire sung. As you breathe out, you melt/relax into the ground. Or you relax as you deliver your punch and just before you land, you tense up. Like really basic level stuff. Then expIain the why like fascia vs muscle. I don't need the tai chi classics edition. I just more curious on Adam's routine and why he does it.
Can someone please explain to me what he means by shock power. I do southern mantis and we train so called shock power, but i have never heard anyone outside of us use the term or claim their style develops it.
That was nice but isn’t using a hammer fist possibly more easily damaging to your hand unless you condition your hands well?. I say that cause your metacarpal bones are typically not as dense or strong as say the bones at the base of your palm.
Is it possible to stumble upon such techniques on your own just by training because every partner I ever train with says they don’t know what I’m doing but it hurts! Is it a naturally occurring thing I don’t do it intentionally it just happens
Distancing, among other things, is wrong. At real world performance speed and power you will never bridge on the wrist or hand. You will bridge higher up toward the elbow and possibly quite near the shoulder if it's a heavy penetrating strike. Also, if your training partner is not physically displacing he is failing to give you an accurate and useful look. The big guy would run you over upon entering. The body clash would collapse your bridge and send you away. All in all, the drill format is fine in terms of technique(s) employed. The execution is lacking and after all these years I still have no idea why you guys insist on infusing live training drills with static structures and dead power.
you don't have to grovel to any clown that has learned the forms. keep practicing. all your answers to your questions are within. i heard this guy say once that you can't learn kung fu on your own. utterly ridiculous
LOVE IT!! 💪🥋👏
Wow you love Wing Chun also Jesse-san!😁
Hey Jesse! Glad to see you follow this channel as well!
What a surprise to see the karate nerd, not really if I think about his going to the roots in China videos ;-). Respect Jesse for your open mind and willingness to learn.
Not gonna lie; hearing us Hakkanese formed Dragon style also makes me happy and proud...!
I didn't know Adam was a fellow Hakka! Now I have that warm fuzzy feeling inside. As said, Cantonese Wing Chun (HK style, Kulo style, Vietnamese style, and also Jesse Glover's Non classical kung fu), Hokkien martial arts (White Crane and its branches, Five Ancestors) AND Hakka martial arts ( I can only name SPM, Bak Mei and Lung Ying), surely have much in common, from the stand-up stance, concaved back, centre line, inch-power, shock power, close quarter fighting etc. It's very interesting to look for the uniqueness of each and incorporate it into your own personal style. Should also consider looking into Okinawan Uechi-ryu karate and Filipino Perkiti Tirsia! Man, those are really something! I LOVE all the martial arts, but like you, Hakka martial arts give me that warm feeling!
Hakka martial arts are my favorite when it comes to just straight combat. When I watch Wing Chun Forms, I see the snake, I see the crane, but I'm now seeing the dragon all over the place also. Particularly in forms like Chum Kiu. The low bong sau seems very dragon like, as well as just the body method of the form.
MashaAllah akhi
I've heard a theory that Wing Chun is an abridged form of Southern Dragon, chi sao being the same as Dragon Arms? I have no idea, just something being whispered around the internet. Any insight since you have experience in both, Adam?
Hakka Ngin! Cheung Lai Chuen (Pak Mei Grandmaster) also learned Hakka Beggar Style/Vagabond...would love to learn more about that!
I came here just to mention Hakka Vagabond Kung Fu myself... The books from Leung Ting on it were some of the first martial arts books I ever read.
Fabulous! You're helping me to understand the Martial Arts I was blessed to be exposed to as a little boy.
Love the greater representation that the hakka style have been getting in recent times.
But I would like to highlight that dragon, mantis, and bak mei are more indicative of arts that have migrated into the pearl river delta and represent a hk guanzhou flavor.
Hakka styles from meizhou jiangxi have so much diversity that there isn't a unified shared theory of fighting.
I just wanted people to be aware that there is so much diversity in practice that these well known styles represent less than 1/5 of what actually still exists but represent 90% of the international practice of Hakka styles due to their spread out of hk.
I really like this set of techniques, great demo. By the way, in the pak sao to elbow hammerfist, you're not just hammerfisting the forearm, but the nerve point just below the elbow on the outside of the forearm. Extra sneaky.
I practice a little Lung Ying its a very rare style a treasure thanks for sharing!
I trained for a short time many years ago in lung ying. Thank you for this video
Good stuff. Dragon style is related to Bak Mei and the two arts are quite similar in terms of flavor and body mechanics.
Shout out to Zhong Luo's Bak Mei and Long Ying Academy.
Even rarer than Loong Ying, I practice Shaolin Northern Dragon (Lung Jop Pai). We have a short range section that is essentially the same as Loong Ying with some slight, but important, variations. Our school's curriculum includes several Loong Ying forms though we point out where modifications are so we can differentiate northern from southern techniques.
Sounds like it’s made up. References please.
I'm really liking the shock energy stuff. I've heard of springy and spiral energy but I'm curious if there are others
I tried the shocking energy with the pak sao on an opponent's elbow! It really worked! My opponent couldn't redirect my shock energy, whereas if i just pressured normally he would be able to!
Gung Fu is awesome. Great video.
outstanding demo, love hyow open minded this sifu is.
Nice. Good to see a little of this system. Love the Hakka arts. Thanks for sharing!
Alright! Can't wait! Checking it out now!
Thank you
龍形拳是廣東省的地方傳統拳術之一。源於清朝乾隆時代，相傳於少林五枚所傳，龍形拳是19世紀末期由惠州汝湖人林耀桂首創、影響曾經遍及珠三角、香港、澳門以及東南亞、澳洲、美國、加拿大、英國等地的一種武術拳法。惠州惠城區和博羅、龍門縣的多個林姓村落是龍形拳傳承地。
That was a great presentation and you highlighted the practicality and economy of motion as an expert as in it is simple once you understand it, yet I know you'll have a lot more insights. I appreciate it I'm stuck in a hospital trying to look at virtually anything as a visitor.
I also like the way Wing Chun Kung fu adds a detailed context for that understanding to exist ; )
I love the last sequence of combos in the beginning @0:18 with your resting open palm facing up towards his neck or jaw line yet the back of the hand resting to feel his direction.
I love the Dragon boxing.
I once put my arm through an old pole for those old school lamps that faced the ceiling that was one of the first dimmers of it's time.
The shade looks like a plate.
I did a hammer fist but with the forearm swing inside and I folded this thing.
Then I new right away how devastating they can be.
Also the flow turning elbows that are more seen in Dragon Bagua can be lethal.
Once again a great demonstration Adam.
I wish you and your demonstrator friend a safe Happy Halloween.
East Van 4 life
Good stuff , thank you Adam and Chris
"Nice". We have a pi chuan in shingyi that's similar and can be sped up like that. love it.
Great stuff! :)
Thanks sifu
Lolol. Adam still hasn't address how to gain and practice shock power and rooting. Internal power truly is a dieing knowledge.
He's referenced it a few times in the past. Topics like that aren't really easy to teach properly online in my opinion. There's a lot of nuance and you need a proper teacher to guide you.
I can use fajin but teaching it online is something I wouldn’t know how to teach. There are simple things like the sway , the pulley system, the tightening at the last second, the rebound into the next circle. All these things can be discussed but the deeper internal rotations of the dantien and Kua are not easily discussed.
@@Ancientneutrality I'm saying simple standing meditation to acquire sung. As you breathe out, you melt/relax into the ground. Or you relax as you deliver your punch and just before you land, you tense up. Like really basic level stuff. Then expIain the why like fascia vs muscle. I don't need the tai chi classics edition. I just more curious on Adam's routine and why he does it.
@@AztecUnshaven I'm just asking for basic stuff. Obviously advance level stuff would get confusing.
@@Simon2k17 I believe he might already have stuff on that in his patreon videos and/or detailed instruction courses.
Have you heard of the Hai Lung system? I believe it translates to water dragon as well as black dragon.
Very nice !
Very informative Sifu, I wonder how many times you say Sorry Chris ? 🤔🤣
hahaha Cris hears it a lot during the filming.
I learned a new app, push the hammer with the other fist.Does this master offer a slow motion? It's hard to see he goes so fast. Respectfully.
Really cool
I like 👍🏽 this moving for fighting 👊🏽🇨🇾🐺
There is also Hakka Hsing Yi, but I love hammer fists because it can so easily morph into a backfist.
Xing yi from Li Luo Neng?
Do you mean the style that was develop from Dai family xin yi?
Can someone please explain to me what he means by shock power. I do southern mantis and we train so called shock power, but i have never heard anyone outside of us use the term or claim their style develops it.
Hakka arts are famous for it. Like Southern Mantis, like Pak Mei, like Dragon
It's short power
It's a pity Hakka kung fu isn't more prevalent. The little bit of it I've seen I like very much.
Like the dragon claw or dragon talent
Do you use your fingertips in dragon style kung fu
Reminds me of Cimande.
I want to train in that system, I just don't have the money to pay for the lessons! 😪
Hello to all
Very interesting dragon shocking
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What’s the difference between red boat wing chun and traditional wing chun like yip man wing chun
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Pai Bak Mei!
That was nice but isn’t using a hammer fist possibly more easily damaging to your hand unless you condition your hands well?. I say that cause your metacarpal bones are typically not as dense or strong as say the bones at the base of your palm.
Is it possible to stumble upon such techniques on your own just by training because every partner I ever train with says they don’t know what I’m doing but it hurts! Is it a naturally occurring thing
I don’t do it intentionally it just happens
Who is the modern inheriter?
Ahhh 💡
Best practice is to wear a lapel microphone. Honestly I couldn’t hear most of what you said. But the action were well demostrated.
Was that Dragon style mixed with Wing Chun?
Huang zhung Pai Wang she she she Wang
*LIKE TO SEE ADAM TRY OUT HIS MOVES IN a MMA Match or in THE UFC* 😏
Too much white wall
in the video.
Distancing, among other things, is wrong. At real world performance speed and power you will never bridge on the wrist or hand. You will bridge higher up toward the elbow and possibly quite near the shoulder if it's a heavy penetrating strike. Also, if your training partner is not physically displacing he is failing to give you an accurate and useful look. The big guy would run you over upon entering. The body clash would collapse your bridge and send you away. All in all, the drill format is fine in terms of technique(s) employed. The execution is lacking and after all these years I still have no idea why you guys insist on infusing live training drills with static structures and dead power.
you don't have to grovel to any clown that has learned the forms. keep practicing. all your answers to your questions are within. i heard this guy say once that you can't learn kung fu on your own. utterly ridiculous
Wing Chun is a complete system. there are no styles.