I hear you. When i saw this come up for sale I just had to get it. I blew mine up when i was 12 by plugging in wrong polarity adapter. I remember taking it to the local shop and the guy charged me 30 only to tell me he couldn't fix it. It was the first time i felt like i had been ripped off because i don't thing the guy even looked at it.
Even Nintendo started out their journey into electronic games like this, with their Color/ Computer TV-Game series. In Europe, Finnish TV manufacturer Salora (whom later pioneered the very early mobile/ radio car phones for Nokia), had a few of these rudimentary games actually built into a 26" colour TV! (Salora PlayMaster).
12:32 - Video games actually started with the PDP-1 Space Wars in the very early 60s. The machine was built in the late 50s, it used vector graphics on a round CRT radar screen. It was capable of making musical tunes too. It loaded a program from a paper tape with holes punched in it.
I loved my TI-99/4A, we had a cassette deck...no floppy! We used to play lots of fun games and also program it. We notched the edges of Donkey Kong and Space Invaders and it fit and worked :)
Still have my ti-99/4a. Just have to find or build a dual voltage power supply for it and it will probably still work. If I ever get around to building a power supply or finding the original I will do a video on it and I have the original I have the ti monitor the little color monitor that went with it I had the entire system cost me a lot of money when I bought it back in 82.
What an AWESOME blast from the past! Thk u SO MUCH for sharing! I'm the same age as you and also grew up in Canada. I had one of these systems, too, which would have been REALLY EXPENSIVE for my parents/grandparents to buy me for Christmas, but they managed it somehow. I've been trying to remember/find the console I had, with NO LUCK! When I saw "Lloyd's," I was, like, YES!, that's what it was! However, my system was different (same gun tho). Did a quick search on the web and I *THINK* I found the system I had: it was the 802, with the ROUND reset button. I didn't think my system was white/light coloured, but maybe it was. It was really the GUN that I remember, especially since you mentioned you could convert it to a rifle.
We had the same one at home when I was a kid .. what a flashback!.. the gun thingie was fun but about as accurate as you'd imagine .. we didn't mind though :)
Today, as primitive as these games seem today, they were quite ingenious and were an intense labor of love to invent/build/program for the time. I wonder how they even did it without having barely/capable, useable personal computers available.
As a small child I can remember when these games were first introduced. But they were very expensive (poor times) but although nobody that I knew had one they were featured as one of the 'rounds' of a popular kids gameshow. This made us all 'want one' but alas it was not for me and neither was the Atari 2600 (although I did have a mate who got one for Xmas @ £120) and I personally didn't buy a 'games console' until the original playstation came out !
The French band Air made an amusing music video based on a pong game of their song _Kelly Watch The Stars._ I'm sure it is somewhere on RUclips. In it, the game console breaks down and then comes back to life.
They make the little miniature RF modulators that convert coax to composite. Might be able to rig it up and cram all of that in there if it's worth the time lol. Yep I remember those...that was back in the day when all we had was blocks and dirt to play with. I remember when the 2600 came out I felt like a king
Composite video is there it's just that the level is so low as the chip itself doesn't have enough power to drive the video signal down the cable into 875 ohm terminated video input on a television. So what I need to do is build a video amplifier stage using an f e t as opposed to a bipolar transistor. An fet has high impedance like a vacuum tube so it won't go down the existing circuit. But it's not really worth it to go to all that effort because you don't like this is not that valuable except and as a collector's piece you typically want to try to keep it original.I don't know whether the current crop of television still has an analog tuner in it or not but my 2016 Samsung 4K certainly does. Lots of TVs out there that will still accept a channel 3 or channel 4 input. Again this is more of a collector item not something to be played as no one's going back to 1976 for video games other than to look back at how things were.
I bought 2 Pong games off ebay for £15 the pair. One colour and the other was B/W, (that one had a missing controller). They just needed the battery compartments and the switches cleaning and they were perfect. I also did a composite mod on them. (it can be reversed back to RF).
Very cool early Pong console. More games than in my Conic. Interesting to see the chip as well, mine has General Instrument AY-3-8500 with 7750 date code.
if I recall correctly the pinout of the chip outputs more or less the correct level signals. just a simple buffer and mixing them(one leg I paddles one is score, one is ball etc.) should get you a ok Composite video. :-)
Most Light Gun games do not work on LCD or Plasma TVs, although the company Sinden did come up with a light gun system that works on LCD TVs. Some hackers also came up with Zapper clones and modifications that allowed Duck Hunt on the NES to work on an LCD but it involved inserting code to alter the refresh rate and some sensor mods.
This is definitely new information for me. I've always associated LLOYD'S with home audio systems, clock radios, 8 track players, etc, but I never would have thought of them manufacturing a gaming system...lol
Had the same thought - entry level all-in-one home stereos with am/fm, turntable and an 8 track or cassette, definitely not video stuff like this. Really like the "Color TV Sports" labelling on it.
Great video, I havent found the video where you fix Crt. This light gun games are the reason why I need to fix mine and there isn't a local tv repair shop in my area. Tv only has a horizontal wave going vertically bottom to top. Any suggestions?
I've done several CRT videos over the years. If you just have a vertical line top to bottom that you've lost your horizontal deflection. This could be a broken connection between the deflection yolk horizontal winding and the main board usually at the connector. It could be a broken solder connection on one of the horizontal linearity coils on the board, an open pump capacitor in the horizontal deflection circuit to the yolk or it could be a bad yoke. If the line goes left to right in the center of the screen that's a loss of vertical deflection which could be any component in the vertical circuit
Ahh yes the tennis or pong, the first one we had was just tennis, but it was fun at the time :-D I don't know if those consoles have any great value. Perhaps only the very first model made would be valuable to someone.
Why do you need this RF switch box if the console has an 75 Ohm output? Aren't you basicly converting 75 Ohm to 300 Ohms and then 300 back to 75, or am i getting somthing wrong?
I was waiting for someone to comment on that I'm surprised it took so long! I have no idea who that is or what his problemis. I was sitting at a light waiting for them to cross watching the countdown timer on The pedestrian signal so that I would know how many more seconds I was going to have to wait and out of the corner of my eye I see this bonehead give me the finger. I went look back at the footage and hr was staring me down the entire time but the thing is with the way the lighting was with all the clouds you can't see who's in the car I have tinted windows. All he would see is the reflection of the clouds because it was so bright out. Maybe he didn't like the fact that my car sounds like a spaceship when it's in gear or maybe he doesn't like electric cars. Obviously somebody with anger issues.
I guess you didn't watch it all the way through because if you had you would have noticed that after I put it together I went and grabbed a coax to RCA adapter and fed it in using coax. I connected it that way initially to show what these units came with and how people connected them to their televisions back in the day. Remember that prior to the early 80s televisions did not have coaxial inputs or cable compatible tuners. I don't think any televisions had 75 old inputs till about 1978 or 79 which was a couple years after this was on the market. even after the introduction of the coaxial input most television still used the 300 ohm screws for the UHF tuner it was just for the VHF because cable TV of the day only covered the VHF and some mid-band channels using a converter.
Yeah I just finished the video and saw u used the adapter in the end. Most people have no idea how to connect these old systems to Hdtvs so I had to mention using the coax adapter.
We just bought a Coleco Gemini which was an Atari 2600 clone with controllers plugs in front. These go for almost the same price of an Atari. Paid $20 and playing Donkey kong on it. FUN!
This is exactly the first game system me and my brother owned. Ours was under the name Monteverdi TV Sports. We loved that game.
Just brilliant! Had this as a kid! The way I reacted to this video I think I still am 😄
I hear you. When i saw this come up for sale I just had to get it. I blew mine up when i was 12 by plugging in wrong polarity adapter. I remember taking it to the local shop and the guy charged me 30 only to tell me he couldn't fix it. It was the first time i felt like i had been ripped off because i don't thing the guy even looked at it.
Even Nintendo started out their journey into electronic games like this, with their Color/ Computer TV-Game series. In Europe, Finnish TV manufacturer Salora (whom later pioneered the very early mobile/ radio car phones for Nokia), had a few of these rudimentary games actually built into a 26" colour TV! (Salora PlayMaster).
12:32 - Video games actually started with the PDP-1 Space Wars in the very early 60s. The machine was built in the late 50s, it used vector graphics on a round CRT radar screen. It was capable of making musical tunes too. It loaded a program from a paper tape with holes punched in it.
Thanx for nice memories of the past.
I loved my TI-99/4A, we had a cassette deck...no floppy! We used to play lots of fun games and also program it. We notched the edges of Donkey Kong and Space Invaders and it fit and worked :)
Still have my ti-99/4a. Just have to find or build a dual voltage power supply for it and it will probably still work. If I ever get around to building a power supply or finding the original I will do a video on it and I have the original I have the ti monitor the little color monitor that went with it I had the entire system cost me a lot of money when I bought it back in 82.
Useful video repair
What an AWESOME blast from the past! Thk u SO MUCH for sharing! I'm the same age as you and also grew up in Canada. I had one of these systems, too, which would have been REALLY EXPENSIVE for my parents/grandparents to buy me for Christmas, but they managed it somehow. I've been trying to remember/find the console I had, with NO LUCK! When I saw "Lloyd's," I was, like, YES!, that's what it was! However, my system was different (same gun tho). Did a quick search on the web and I *THINK* I found the system I had: it was the 802, with the ROUND reset button. I didn't think my system was white/light coloured, but maybe it was. It was really the GUN that I remember, especially since you mentioned you could convert it to a rifle.
We had the same one at home when I was a kid .. what a flashback!.. the gun thingie was fun but about as accurate as you'd imagine .. we didn't mind though :)
Today, as primitive as these games seem today, they were quite ingenious and were an intense labor of love to invent/build/program for the time. I wonder how they even did it without having barely/capable, useable personal computers available.
Great find, congrats! I'd love to someday find a Pong console (or one of the many variants, such as this one).👍
As a small child I can remember when these games were first introduced.
But they were very expensive (poor times) but although nobody that I knew had one they were featured as one of the 'rounds' of a popular kids gameshow.
This made us all 'want one' but alas it was not for me and neither was the Atari 2600 (although I did have a mate who got one for Xmas @ £120) and I personally didn't buy a 'games console' until the original playstation came out !
The French band Air made an amusing music video based on a pong game of their song _Kelly Watch The Stars._ I'm sure it is somewhere on RUclips. In it, the game console breaks down and then comes back to life.
They make the little miniature RF modulators that convert coax to composite. Might be able to rig it up and cram all of that in there if it's worth the time lol.
Yep I remember those...that was back in the day when all we had was blocks and dirt to play with. I remember when the 2600 came out I felt like a king
Composite video is there it's just that the level is so low as the chip itself doesn't have enough power to drive the video signal down the cable into 875 ohm terminated video input on a television. So what I need to do is build a video amplifier stage using an f e t as opposed to a bipolar transistor. An fet has high impedance like a vacuum tube so it won't go down the existing circuit. But it's not really worth it to go to all that effort because you don't like this is not that valuable except and as a collector's piece you typically want to try to keep it original.I don't know whether the current crop of television still has an analog tuner in it or not but my 2016 Samsung 4K certainly does. Lots of TVs out there that will still accept a channel 3 or channel 4 input. Again this is more of a collector item not something to be played as no one's going back to 1976 for video games other than to look back at how things were.
This is a console that the AVGN hasn’t reviewed it in a “Pong Console” episode.
I bought 2 Pong games off ebay for £15 the pair. One colour and the other was B/W, (that one had a missing controller). They just needed the battery compartments and the switches cleaning and they were perfect. I also did a composite mod on them. (it can be reversed back to RF).
Very cool early Pong console. More games than in my Conic. Interesting to see the chip as well, mine has General Instrument AY-3-8500 with 7750 date code.
if I recall correctly the pinout of the chip outputs more or less the correct level signals.
just a simple buffer and mixing them(one leg I paddles one is score, one is ball etc.) should get you a ok Composite video. :-)
Most Light Gun games do not work on LCD or Plasma TVs, although the company Sinden did come up with a light gun system that works on LCD TVs. Some hackers also came up with Zapper clones and modifications that allowed Duck Hunt on the NES to work on an LCD but it involved inserting code to alter the refresh rate and some sensor mods.
yes remember it well 1st console we had
This is definitely new information for me. I've always associated LLOYD'S with home audio systems, clock radios, 8 track players, etc, but I never would have thought of them manufacturing a gaming system...lol
Sears made consoles as well: ruclips.net/video/EMphJG0FH_o/видео.html
Had the same thought - entry level all-in-one home stereos with am/fm, turntable and an 8 track or cassette, definitely not video stuff like this. Really like the "Color TV Sports" labelling on it.
Get a kit for converting a 2600 to composite video out. Might be able to switch the audio to an output RCA jack, too. 👍
Great video, I havent found the video where you fix Crt. This light gun games are the reason why I need to fix mine and there isn't a local tv repair shop in my area. Tv only has a horizontal wave going vertically bottom to top. Any suggestions?
I've done several CRT videos over the years. If you just have a vertical line top to bottom that you've lost your horizontal deflection. This could be a broken connection between the deflection yolk horizontal winding and the main board usually at the connector. It could be a broken solder connection on one of the horizontal linearity coils on the board, an open pump capacitor in the horizontal deflection circuit to the yolk or it could be a bad yoke. If the line goes left to right in the center of the screen that's a loss of vertical deflection which could be any component in the vertical circuit
@@12voltvids I guess I havent dug into your videos the slow way to find your CRT videos. Thank you for explaining.
Ever heard of search?
Ahh yes the tennis or pong, the first one we had was just tennis, but it was fun at the time :-D
I don't know if those consoles have any great value.
Perhaps only the very first model made would be valuable to someone.
Couldn't see the games from that camera angle. There are older LCD TVs that have NTSC tuners.
The paddles are hard to see anyway. The paddles are not bright they are just a different color from background.
Why do you need this RF switch box if the console has an 75 Ohm output? Aren't you basicly converting 75 Ohm to 300 Ohms and then 300 back to 75, or am i getting somthing wrong?
That's how that old switch box works. back in the day when this was due no television's had 75 ohm inputs they were all 300.
I have the Radio Shack version of the console.
WTF with the guy that gave you a middle finger on the intro? 😂
I was waiting for someone to comment on that I'm surprised it took so long! I have no idea who that is or what his problemis. I was sitting at a light waiting for them to cross watching the countdown timer on The pedestrian signal so that I would know how many more seconds I was going to have to wait and out of the corner of my eye I see this bonehead give me the finger. I went look back at the footage and hr was staring me down the entire time but the thing is with the way the lighting was with all the clouds you can't see who's in the car I have tinted windows. All he would see is the reflection of the clouds because it was so bright out. Maybe he didn't like the fact that my car sounds like a spaceship when it's in gear or maybe he doesn't like electric cars. Obviously somebody with anger issues.
Don't know if it's my age or what but I keep buying old stuff off Facebook marketplace and eBay
Ms pac- man classic 👌 glxary
Come on! Nobody uses game switches anymore. All u need is an RCA to coax adapter. Shame on you!
I guess you didn't watch it all the way through because if you had you would have noticed that after I put it together I went and grabbed a coax to RCA adapter and fed it in using coax. I connected it that way initially to show what these units came with and how people connected them to their televisions back in the day. Remember that prior to the early 80s televisions did not have coaxial inputs or cable compatible tuners. I don't think any televisions had 75 old inputs till about 1978 or 79 which was a couple years after this was on the market. even after the introduction of the coaxial input most television still used the 300 ohm screws for the UHF tuner it was just for the VHF because cable TV of the day only covered the VHF and some mid-band channels using a converter.
Yeah I just finished the video and saw u used the adapter in the end. Most people have no idea how to connect these old systems to Hdtvs so I had to mention using the coax adapter.
We just bought a Coleco Gemini which was an Atari 2600 clone with controllers plugs in front. These go for almost the same price of an Atari. Paid $20 and playing Donkey kong on it. FUN!
@@nrg16108someone has a 2600 list of locally. They started at 150 they're down to 120 now still asking way too much for what it is.