I'm a subscriber now for sure. If I didn't watch your video I would not have known put it in service mode / maintenance mode. Thank you for not letting me mess my truck up.
If you're afraid of using a large C-clamp to press in the piston and damaging the electronic module, you can, with another person if desired, use a small c-clamp to hold in one old pad, the one away from the piston, and place the other old against the piston. Your f150 comes with a jack kit, and that jack kit has a pry-bar/socket with it. That comes with a plastic cap on the pry-bar part and this actually ends up being a smooth and non-difficult way to depress the piston into the caliper. Just go slow and steady and it'll go in. 1000% use service mode though. No matter what, you'll need to do that.
I have owned a 2000, 2005, 2007, 2010 and now a 2018 f150 and I have always done my own brake work on my trucks. I was struggling on compressing the caliber piston and had to go to RUclips for help. This was my first f150 with the electric brake. Put the truck in service mode and no problem with compressing. Big thanks to Brian for the service mode walk through 👍. Now a subscriber!
That’s what I found, brake pads way to tight on the caliper bracket slide clips. They should slide freely with anti seize or grease and they did not, even the new set after filing and cleaning caliper brackets, filed down new pad C channels and installed- good to go, no more hang ups causing excessive pad wear.
IGreat video Brian. Another successful brake fitting love the running commentary and the way you go about your work . You make it look so easy but to somebody like me it certainly not keep the vids coming my friend.
Great tutorial. If you start the brake job before watching the video and have problems. Just put everything back to the original state. After placing the caliper back now you can follow the steps regarding placing the electronic pbrake in service mode. Then it will be smooth. In the words Fred Sanford (Red Foxx) "you big dummy" If you ain't learning, you ain't living (Me)
Good video, thanks. Question: Had a rear outer pad wear out and scrape up the rotor on one side, so can I replace just that rotor or should I do both sides? Will put new pads both sides.
Open The MC to let the air out, remove the wheel, force the puck back into caliper with a screwdriver or 2, remove the caliper, change the pads, and put back together….no need for a cumbersome C-clamp or tool.
Hey Brian, how come you didn't replace the brake pads? As I was taught that always replace pads when it comes with new rotors. So the rotors will last long time? Is that right?
While that is good practice, its not always necessary. The pads were still at 75% and they were worn evenly so, I just had to scuff them up with sand paper and they were good to go. Thanks for checking out the channel!
Wonderful job! I have screwed up and need to know how to repair my mistake. I took the caliper off by taking out both 21mm bolts only. I did this before setting the vehicle into service mode. Now the brake pads are mashed together and I can't get my 2017 F150 into service mode. The dash says park brake malfunction, service now
Oh no, if the pistons came out too far, you may need new calipers. I would unplug the motors from the calipers and try to get a screwdriver in between the pads and spread them apart. Keep me posted.
Thanks Brian - I love how you said "no scan tool, like some German cars..." Every time I worked on my wife's Mini I cringed at the thought I'd have to either buy a scan tool or take it to the dealer - seriously, I thought I'd have to take the thing to the dealership when I added wiper washer fluid ;-)
Brian, how do you put the parking brake in service mode when the vehicle doesn't have a key, but fob. You can't turn it off/on with the fob like you do with the key. Thanks
I did one rear break and I made a mistake now I know about service mode I will do this for the next side You think it will be ok even tho I turn the piston and push on it without service mode or should I redo it again the right way Thanks
I have never not been able to get a Ford into service mode. I would follow thew steps a few mode times. Otherwise, you will have to take it to the dealer.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS the mechanic that did the brake job on my 2018 said I let the pads run too long and that's what made them pop out... then said you couldn't put them back together. Cost me way more money...
If the pistons aren’t completely out and leaking, you should be able to take the motors off the backs of the calipers (carefully) and push the pistons back in.
Thanks! From a technician’s standpoint, I really liked it, I hate dealing with drum brakes and parking brake shoes. Also, we rarely saw any issues with them.
Hi You make a big mistake. DO NOT lubricate copper grease between hubs and brake discs. In copper fats, there are small sand grains that make you have Total Roundout. You may only use some common oil.
For the love of God people do not use a C clamp to compress the pistons on these calipers. You will apply too much pressure on the EPB housing and it can and will damage it. Ford even states this. Use a caliper compression tool, theyre cheap enough at Harbor Freight.
NOt a good mchaic if you dont clean and relubricate caliper guide pins. Why not?? Also why not just buy $30 new set of pads to put along with new rotors??
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS this is common mistake about slide pins, they free but after 2 months they may freeze and pads will start burning and destroying new rotors. I learned the hard way, , i notice that none of mechanics do lubricate the pins and no dealers touch them either, , But i do check lubricant on pins every time i change pads on my trucks. use standard red axle grease , and in past 10 years never had a frozen caliper , or burn pads.
Help me, i had someone do the rear brake pads, and he never put it on service mode and when he tried to put it on the cylinde that pushes the brake pads or wtv it is came out and we had to press it back in there with special tools and he put the calliper and the brake pads we had to slightly hit the calliper with a hammer to go down because it didnt want to go in place after all that so it could grab the brake pads, everything is back together but on the screen says parking brake limited function service now, why is that on? We’re pressing the brake pedal and engaging the e brakes but nothing from the brakes moves?
You could have multiple issues. You may have damaged the calipers and from the sound of it, you put the pads in wrong. The pads with the springs go on the insides. After you verify the pad installation, actuate the E brake multiple times, if it still doesn't work, disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and try again. If that doesn't work, see if your Ford dealer can clear the codes and retest.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS we engaged the e brakes today and when i did that the overheated brakes and brakes malfunction warnings came on, i disengaged the e brakes and it kept showing those warnings,we took the truck to a mechanic no codes found and it turns out the side where the piston was pushed back in by force wont engage the e brakes, that tire still spinning even after engaging the e brakes, its not working on that side we had to order a new caliper and a new module and motor, will put it on monday and it should work. If not then dealership it is 🤦🏻
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS confirmed the pads installation and theyre correctly installed, it was the piston that couldnt go back in all the way and thats why we didnt have enough room to place the caliper back in, the caliper has been damaged and had to order a new one, the e brakes wont engage on that side
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS i replaced the whole caliper and now there’s no warning on the dash but, the bleeder screw wont go in all the way in, we tried diff methods, the brake fluid cant get to the caliper and there’s no leaks from it, we tried to flush it but nothing comes out, and no leaks, screw wont go in all the way any idea why?
On rare occasions, you will need a caliper tool to turn the piston while pushing it in. The tool is available for rent/borrow at most auto parts stores.
Kevin Guarascio first you have to turn it clockwise a few time until it’s a bit straight. Then use a brake caliper kit and push it back in while turning it clock wise. It should start going back down. Let me know how it goes.
If cost was no object, I would totally agree with you but this is happening in every shop on customer cars, used cars, and under any kind of warranty. Thanks for checking out my channel!
So you took all this apart and didn’t change the pads, this is a complete waste of time and money. Why would you not have thrown a set of pads into it, you can see the pads are shit with grooves cut into them . For a hundred dollars more you could have done a complete warranty repair, they will bring this back in a month.
I recommended them but it wasn't my call. The pads were still at 80% and the rotors are harder than the pads so they will smooth out. Thanks for watching.
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Thanks for the video and showing the proper way to do this. Hats off.
You make it look so easy - Be blessed brother!
This was my 1st time stopping by your channel. Awesome video from content to background to simplified Tutorial thank you. Well done!
I appreciate the comment, thanks for watching!
I'm a subscriber now for sure. If I didn't watch your video I would not have known put it in service mode / maintenance mode. Thank you for not letting me mess my truck up.
Thanks for watching Cody, it’s great to have you!
Great video...been searching for a DIY on an electronic parking brake f150 service
Very informative. Also happy to see you clean off the rotors. I do it every time, not many do.
Thanks for watching, Paul!
Best Video on explaining exactly what to do!! Thanks!
Thanks for watching Jorge!
Awesome video Brian!
I wish I could hire you as my personal mechanic. You are a master of your craft. Great video. Very informative.
WOW, that is a huge compliment! I really appreciate that.
Looks easy enough, thanks Brian! I'll be doing my F150 front and back
Thanks for watching Brian, good luck!
Great video brian, i subscribed keep the f 150 videos coming
Thanks Paul, it's great to have you!
You, sir, do an EXCELLENT video -- very good, clear and step by step. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Brian!!
Nice job brother
If you're afraid of using a large C-clamp to press in the piston and damaging the electronic module, you can, with another person if desired, use a small c-clamp to hold in one old pad, the one away from the piston, and place the other old against the piston. Your f150 comes with a jack kit, and that jack kit has a pry-bar/socket with it. That comes with a plastic cap on the pry-bar part and this actually ends up being a smooth and non-difficult way to depress the piston into the caliper. Just go slow and steady and it'll go in. 1000% use service mode though. No matter what, you'll need to do that.
Good video!
Thanks for the video! just did this job in 2 hours in the garage with shitty tools! the 21mm bolts are 24mm on the 2018 model!
Good job! Glad my video helped.
I have owned a 2000, 2005, 2007, 2010 and now a 2018 f150 and I have always done my own brake work on my trucks. I was struggling on compressing the caliber piston and had to go to RUclips for help. This was my first f150 with the electric brake. Put the truck in service mode and no problem with compressing. Big thanks to Brian for the service mode walk through 👍. Now a subscriber!
Glad I could help Joe, it’s great to have you!
That’s what I found, brake pads way to tight on the caliper bracket slide clips. They should slide freely with anti seize or grease and they did not, even the new set after filing and cleaning caliper brackets, filed down new pad C channels and installed- good to go, no more hang ups causing excessive pad wear.
Hey Brian,Another great job! Keep the service videos coming.
IGreat video Brian. Another successful brake fitting love the running commentary and the way you go about your work . You make it look so easy but to somebody like me it certainly not keep the vids coming my friend.
Love the videos never seen the electronic e brake before but keep them coming
❤❤❤thank you, you saved my life 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lol. Glad I could help!
thanks bro you're awesome!!
Thanks for watching!
Great explanation
Glad you liked it!
Great tutorial. If you start the brake job before watching the video and have problems. Just put everything back to the original state. After placing the caliper back now you can follow the steps regarding placing the electronic pbrake in service mode. Then it will be smooth.
In the words Fred Sanford (Red Foxx) "you big dummy"
If you ain't learning, you ain't living (Me)
HAHAHAHAHA, glad my video helped you.
Good video, thanks. Question: Had a rear outer pad wear out and scrape up the rotor on one side, so can I replace just that rotor or should I do both sides? Will put new pads both sides.
Thanks for watching! I would replace both.
Shouldn't you of cleaned the rust/corrosion off the hubs before putting on the anti sieze?
Thank you sir!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome sir. T. Y.
Thanks for watching!
Open The MC to let the air out, remove the wheel, force the puck back into caliper with a screwdriver or 2, remove the caliper, change the pads, and put back together….no need for a cumbersome C-clamp or tool.
Hey Brian, how come you didn't replace the brake pads? As I was taught that always replace pads when it comes with new rotors. So the rotors will last long time? Is that right?
While that is good practice, its not always necessary. The pads were still at 75% and they were worn evenly so, I just had to scuff them up with sand paper and they were good to go. Thanks for checking out the channel!
PIPSBURGH VIEWS ahhh, that's good to know. Thanks for reply, Brian. This video is great. I learned something about e brake. Something new!! :)
I’m replacing the electric caliper, do I need to bleed the brakes while in service mode too? Thanks!
No, you do not.
Wonderful job! I have screwed up and need to know how to repair my mistake. I took the caliper off by taking out both 21mm bolts only. I did this before setting the vehicle into service mode. Now the brake pads are mashed together and I can't get my 2017 F150 into service mode. The dash says park brake malfunction, service now
Oh no, if the pistons came out too far, you may need new calipers. I would unplug the motors from the calipers and try to get a screwdriver in between the pads and spread them apart. Keep me posted.
Thanks Brian - I love how you said "no scan tool, like some German cars..." Every time I worked on my wife's Mini I cringed at the thought I'd have to either buy a scan tool or take it to the dealer - seriously, I thought I'd have to take the thing to the dealership when I added wiper washer fluid ;-)
LOL, thanks for watching Scott!
On this model you don’t need to remove the caliper bracket to take out the rotor I found that that hard way.
Thanks for pointing that out, I don't know why I did that.
I was thinking the same thing, I did mine a few days ago. I ended up having to remove one of mine just to replace a wheel stud.
Easy with your professional hands but not with my. Cheers Brian
Thank you
Thanks for watching Sean!
Will the caller piston not push in if electronic park is not put in service mode?
No, it will not.
What is the diameter of the rear rotors and how well does the electric park brake work? Looking to build a pinion brake on a project truck of mine
That sounds pretty cool! 348mm The electronic parking brake holds very well. Thanks for watching.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS does it automatically apply when power is lost?
@@WARD5KUSTOMZ I don't believe so.
You dont have to remove the brakit to remove the rotors but you can for more room
You are correct, I don’t know why I did that.
Brian, how do you put the parking brake in service mode when the vehicle doesn't have a key, but fob. You can't turn it off/on with the fob like you do with the key. Thanks
It's the same process, you just push the button to turn the car on with out starting instead of turning the key.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS Thank you
Is there a different pad/rotor for the electric park brake?
Yes, there is no drum for the park brake shoes inside the rotors.
I like to know how you replacing rotors and using the same old pads
Wasn't my call but the pads still had decent life left.
Got a question on rear brakes do u bleed the brakes if ur truck has got electric parking brake or not
Only if you open the system IE replacing the caliper or brake hose. If you are just replacing brakes, there is no need to bleed the system.
But last 12 years I've always bleed my brakes
@@user-fb8hz8rf3t you can bleed them all you want but it’s not absolutely necessary unless you open the hydraulic system.
OK cool I understand thank you I'll start on the brakes in a few days thank you
I did one rear break and I made a mistake now I know about service mode I will do this for the next side
You think it will be ok even tho I turn the piston and push on it without service mode or should I redo it again the right way
Thanks
If you got the one side in, I would put it in service mode and do the other side and see what happens.
Thank you very much
How do you bleed the brakes with the electronic e-brake system
The same as you would with a conventional parking brake set up.
Do you happen to have a part number on the calipars and calipar bracket, I can't seem to find a pair anywhere -.-
Here yo go. Calipers JL3Z-2552-D JL3Z-2553-D
Brackets JL3Z-2B511-A JL3Z-2B511-B Double check these at the dealer with your VIN#
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS omg man tysm!!
What is the benefit of putting truck into service mode ? And is it necessary ???????
Yes, you have to do that so you can retract the caliper pistons.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS I gotcha just did it .. when I did it the piston of caliper popped all
The way out
What if can't get caliper in or get into service mood?
I have never not been able to get a Ford into service mode. I would follow thew steps a few mode times. Otherwise, you will have to take it to the dealer.
Would not putting the parking brake in service mode cause the pistons to pop out when removed?
They won't pop out unless you touch the switch but you will not be able to compress them.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS the mechanic that did the brake job on my 2018 said I let the pads run too long and that's what made them pop out... then said you couldn't put them back together. Cost me way more money...
I have only seen that happen once and it was because the tech removed the caliper then actuated the parking brake.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS thank you. That answered my question.
Did you leave the key in the on position when putting it in the service mode
Took caliper off before I figured out had to be in service mode. Now they over extended and can't compress them . What do I do
If the pistons aren’t completely out and leaking, you should be able to take the motors off the backs of the calipers (carefully) and push the pistons back in.
We don’t need to bleed it like older models?
Nope
seen different vids some saying 35ft/lbs for pins??
71 lb/in as per Ford workshop manual.
It’s clear as mud
LOL
You don't have yo take the caliper mounting bracket off to change the rotor on this.....
…….I know I know
What if the truck still shows maintenance mode after you went through the steps to turn off
On occasion, it can take multiple attempts for it to turn off and sometimes, you need to drive it a short distance for it to reset.
I really appreciate ya getting back to me on this. It took multiple attempts but we got it! Great info!!! And Thanks again!!
Glad I could help!
I broke a c clamp not knowing my electornic parking brake would prevent caliper from moving. Did I break caliper?
Probably not. I would start over and follow in instructions I’m the video. Good luck!
The metal blew out lol Is it fixable?
@@someonesomeone8583 nope, sorry
Great write up and video but the electronic crap needs to get removed. Number 1 reason I can't buy a new F150
Thanks! From a technician’s standpoint, I really liked it, I hate dealing with drum brakes and parking brake shoes. Also, we rarely saw any issues with them.
But why did you take the bracket off?
Honestly, I have no idea! Just so use to doing it on the older style calipers.
I’m having trouble compressing the piston even after set to service mode
On rare occasions, you may need a caliber compression tool. They are available at most auto parts stores.
Wait, he didn't replace the brake pads with the new rotors? He sanded them flat? Wow. I guess, of your customer can't afford new pads....
It was a used vehicle. Typically, they sit for a while before we get them, causing the rotors to get rusty but the pads are still in good shape.
Hi
You make a big mistake. DO NOT lubricate copper grease between hubs and brake discs. In copper fats,
there are small sand grains that make you have Total Roundout.
You may only use some common oil.
Thanks for the tip!
For the love of God people do not use a C clamp to compress the pistons on these calipers. You will apply too much pressure on the EPB housing and it can and will damage it. Ford even states this. Use a caliper compression tool, theyre cheap enough at Harbor Freight.
I haven't had any issues yet but your way is better.
You're probably right that it's better but I don't look to Ford for real diy info
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That’s if you have a key because my truck does not have a key it has pushbutton start
It works the same for push buttons, you just push it instead of turning the key.
NOt a good mchaic if you dont clean and relubricate caliper guide pins. Why not?? Also why not just buy $30 new set of pads to put along with new rotors??
Slide pins we free and moved smoothly, pads weren’t my call.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS this is common mistake about slide pins, they free but after 2 months they may freeze and pads will start burning and destroying new rotors. I learned the hard way, , i notice that none of mechanics do lubricate the pins and no dealers touch them either, , But i do check lubricant on pins every time i change pads on my trucks. use standard red axle grease , and in past 10 years never had a frozen caliper , or burn pads.
It's definitely a good idea to check them.
Help me, i had someone do the rear brake pads, and he never put it on service mode and when he tried to put it on the cylinde that pushes the brake pads or wtv it is came out and we had to press it back in there with special tools and he put the calliper and the brake pads we had to slightly hit the calliper with a hammer to go down because it didnt want to go in place after all that so it could grab the brake pads, everything is back together but on the screen says parking brake limited function service now, why is that on? We’re pressing the brake pedal and engaging the e brakes but nothing from the brakes moves?
You could have multiple issues. You may have damaged the calipers and from the sound of it, you put the pads in wrong. The pads with the springs go on the insides. After you verify the pad installation, actuate the E brake multiple times, if it still doesn't work, disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and try again. If that doesn't work, see if your Ford dealer can clear the codes and retest.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS we engaged the e brakes today and when i did that the overheated brakes and brakes malfunction warnings came on, i disengaged the e brakes and it kept showing those warnings,we took the truck to a mechanic no codes found and it turns out the side where the piston was pushed back in by force wont engage the e brakes, that tire still spinning even after engaging the e brakes, its not working on that side we had to order a new caliper and a new module and motor, will put it on monday and it should work. If not then dealership it is 🤦🏻
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS confirmed the pads installation and theyre correctly installed, it was the piston that couldnt go back in all the way and thats why we didnt have enough room to place the caliper back in, the caliper has been damaged and had to order a new one, the e brakes wont engage on that side
@@mrbimbo3917 bummer, good luck.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS i replaced the whole caliper and now there’s no warning on the dash but, the bleeder screw wont go in all the way in, we tried diff methods, the brake fluid cant get to the caliper and there’s no leaks from it, we tried to flush it but nothing comes out, and no leaks, screw wont go in all the way any idea why?
I used a c clamp and it’s still not compressing soooo
On rare occasions, you will need a caliper tool to turn the piston while pushing it in. The tool is available for rent/borrow at most auto parts stores.
My caiper poped out can I push it back still
BtownOG I don’t think so but I would sure try.
PIPSBURGH VIEWS I pushed it back in and it still works! Holy shit I’m so relieved. At first the e brake light came on but it eventually turned off
BtownOG good job!
How did you end up pushing it back in?! Having the same problem
Kevin Guarascio first you have to turn it clockwise a few time until it’s a bit straight. Then use a brake caliper kit and push it back in while turning it clock wise. It should start going back down. Let me know how it goes.
It does't make any sense to change the rotors but not the brake pads!!!
If cost was no object, I would totally agree with you but this is happening in every shop on customer cars, used cars, and under any kind of warranty. Thanks for checking out my channel!
dude.....You're talking WAY too fast on getting the parking brake set to service mode. Damn....they whole reason I clicked in this vid.
My bad! Try this one, same process.
So you took all this apart and didn’t change the pads, this is a complete waste of time and money. Why would you not have thrown a set of pads into it, you can see the pads are shit with grooves cut into them . For a hundred dollars more you could have done a complete warranty repair, they will bring this back in a month.
I recommended them but it wasn't my call. The pads were still at 80% and the rotors are harder than the pads so they will smooth out. Thanks for watching.