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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
  • Not a very good band.
    REVIEWS
    The 2nd Law: • Muse- The 2nd Law ALBU...
    Drones: • Muse - Drones ALBUM RE...
    Simulation Theory: • Muse - Simulation Theo...
    Will of the People: • Muse's Will of the Peo...
    Muse Removes Song from Setlist to Meet Malaysian Guidelines, Matty Healy Responds:
    www.stereogum....
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  • @aarav_bhatia1848
    @aarav_bhatia1848 Год назад +3340

    I first read the title as 'music sucks' and thought wow that's an interesting switch up

  • @CameronPrice2
    @CameronPrice2 Год назад +1360

    They went from sounding like cool space inspired alt-rock act with tongue-in-cheek, double entendre lyrics and SICK bass lines to sounding like angry Imagine Dragons...

    • @JJ-tk7xf
      @JJ-tk7xf Год назад +31

      What part of songs like You Make Me Feel Like It's Halloween or Survival or Reapers sound like Imagine Dragons? (I'm not tryna deny your point, I just don't think Imagine Dragons is the band to compare them to)

    • @locustboy8448
      @locustboy8448 Год назад +32

      ​@JJ-tk7xf The imagine dragons ripoff song is specifically Thought Contagion. I don't agree with that comparison at all other than that track. Then there was Something Human their Ed Sheeran ripoff song.

    • @key_mark2149
      @key_mark2149 Год назад +32

      They're STILL tongue-in-cheek. The difference is they just dont sound good anymore lol

    • @will_da_man_
      @will_da_man_ Год назад +1

      Hit the nail on the head there. 🙌

    • @vasvas8914
      @vasvas8914 Год назад +14

      @@key_mark2149 nah, I think Matt really takes his silly conspiracy theories seriously

  • @viegodalencio
    @viegodalencio Год назад +384

    Fantano overlooking Origin of Symmetry reminds me of Brad Taste doing the same thing, then relistening to the album and actually giving it a fair grade

    • @kadriblabali
      @kadriblabali Год назад +52

      Brad is a fantano fanboy, he pretty much adopts most of fantano's takes

    • @mr.noride7226
      @mr.noride7226 Год назад +43

      @@kadriblabali Except he has even worse takes than Fantano.

    • @jimbob7572
      @jimbob7572 Год назад +39

      Brad taste didn’t like absolution which is blasphemy

    • @lucastangen4285
      @lucastangen4285 10 месяцев назад

      @@jimbob7572That album is ass honestly

    • @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn
      @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn 17 дней назад

      brad taste is fantano's chinese bootleg lmfao

  • @mr705yesplease
    @mr705yesplease Год назад +1350

    I am FULLY on board with shitting on post-2012 Muse, but I wholeheartedly believe the first half of their career is some of the best alt rock ever made. Melon describing Origin of Symmetry as “a decent project” is a massive understatement. And the Radiohead mention is so tired and dumb… apart from Showbiz, the bands are not even remotely similar. But goddamn it is so sad to see them punch below their weight for basically a decade.

    • @xrayjohnson6972
      @xrayjohnson6972 Год назад +91

      Origin of Symmetry is a fantastic album.
      Songs like Citizen Erased, Newborn,Bliss or even Plug In Baby hit all hit a kind of Orchestral Operatic brilliance that you never see elsewhere with direct interpretations of the likes of Rachmanimov. The only genuine reason I could see a critic having to criticize the album is the breathing.

    • @superdrummerboy1028
      @superdrummerboy1028 Год назад +59

      My brother in christ the Radiohead influence is painstakingly obvious for a lot of their early catalog, especially considering where that band was popularity-wise at the time. Irregardless of whether Muse's music was bad or good( I personally really enjoy DO their earlier works) It's 1000% true lmao that's like GVF saying they're tired of Zeppelin comparisons

    • @Hopesfallout
      @Hopesfallout Год назад +104

      @@superdrummerboy1028 Nah it's nowhere near GVF level of derivation. Earlier Muse might have Thom Yorke like vocals, but it's way different instrumentally. Radiohead had like one record, that has like 2 songs on it that could appear on an early Muse record if faster and heavier.

    • @xrayjohnson6972
      @xrayjohnson6972 Год назад +23

      @@superdrummerboy1028 On Showbiz, yeah, they sound like a tribute act and Matt's singing hadn't reached the levels that Thom couldn't yet but after that but I really don't see how Origin is derivative of Radiohead and never seen an argument before.
      The Radiohead comparison was all most of the press had to say about Showbiz. The reason the comparison has stuck is due to lazy journalism regurgitating the first line of thought that was associated with them

    • @SarahTheBasicBitch
      @SarahTheBasicBitch Год назад +12

      Bruh Matt sounds nearly identical to Thom Yorke most of the time

  • @docauch5938
    @docauch5938 Год назад +1095

    There is no reason to talk down on Origin of Symmetry. Fuck man, Muse was the shit back in the day.

    • @MyToasterIsMoist
      @MyToasterIsMoist Год назад +108

      Absolutely agreed, OoS is a fantastically well put together progrock album and such a big departure from the more Britpop sound they had on Showbiz just two years prior (imo completely shedding any and all Radiohead comparisons).
      And their live shows were always borderline perfect every single time. I can understand disliking most of their work from The Resistance onward (I agree with that) but Muse’s early catalogue is absolutely dripping with some incredibly powerful stuff, including their B-sides! Lot of fun stuff buried in there!

    • @TheDirge69
      @TheDirge69 Год назад +1

      Anthony’s point exactly

    • @TheLetterH111
      @TheLetterH111 Год назад +9

      Other than the mixing. That album sounds like total ass. Absolution on the other hand is *chefs kiss*

    • @hamzaqureshi7933
      @hamzaqureshi7933 Год назад +33

      @@TheLetterH111 listen to the 20th anniversary remix

    • @FromRussia_With_Love
      @FromRussia_With_Love Год назад +18

      No, they really weren't. They were always cringy trash. It just took a long time for the world to realize it.

  • @justincalhoun7062
    @justincalhoun7062 Год назад +1139

    Calling Origin of Symmetry a "fairly good project" is just flat out blasphemy

    • @Yankee4ever2
      @Yankee4ever2 Год назад +54

      straight up

    • @icecube7685
      @icecube7685 Год назад +9

      7/10 imo
      I like some muse songs but not a lot of their albums

    • @justincalhoun7062
      @justincalhoun7062 Год назад +106

      @@icecube7685 for me (& probably many others) it's very much an ALBUM album. It's constructed in a way that lends itself to be listened to front to back. Not every song is the greatest song ever but the sum is greater than the parts. My opinion anyway

    • @homogenicmp3
      @homogenicmp3 Год назад +59

      I'm crying he really hates them

    • @lilo5437
      @lilo5437 Год назад +1

      100%

  • @epicfail1526
    @epicfail1526 Год назад +484

    I initially got into Muse because of their INCREDIBLE skill as a trio. Muse can fuckin' PLAY, and they would take advantage of that by writing some DIFFICULT songs and brought insane energy when they performed them, especially live. It's that skill they would show off that made them so fun to listen to. I think most of us in the comments will agree that their run of albums from Origins of Symmetry to the Resistance was phenomenal. The 2nd Law and Drones had some decent riffs and ideas, but they were messy albums overall.
    What really pisses me off about Muse and where they are today is that they aren't using the talent that they have to their advantage anymore. They just keep putting out easy songs with unimpressive riffs, simple rhythms, and smooth vocals. I feel like that fucking Chelsea fan meme. There's no passion, no aggression, no vision, and yet they STILL have the talent to give us an album that'll give us that kick we're looking for. It's so frustrating. I'll just keep listening to their old stuff.

    • @user-rz3nu3lm5r
      @user-rz3nu3lm5r Год назад +22

      Fr, wasted talent is one of the most frustrating things to witness. It’s one thing if an artist is just not very good at what they do - that doesn’t really get my blood boiling at all. It’s a whole other thing when an artist clearly has skill and talent that they are consciously choosing not to employ because they can get away with being lazy.

    • @luckythirteen1358
      @luckythirteen1358 Год назад +7

      At drones i finally gave up hope. Resistance was rejected by my brain after a year or two, and the second law gave me the illusion of being passable for just a few months. I used to love them, they are the reason why i started playing guitar, and i still find some muse in my playing. But they're not coming back

    • @Filip6754
      @Filip6754 Год назад +10

      You're not exactly right. They are still progressing as musicians. Origin of Symmetry's best technical effort was the Plug in Baby riff, which, similarly to most of Bellamy's guitarplaying of that era, can be managed by only playing downstrokes tempo-wise. By Will of The People, Bellamy includes full-on shredding solo passages in the songs, very difficult fast scale runs that he's never used before (not that it really works stylistically, but technically perfect even live). The drummer has similarly learned a double-pedal technique. They are eager to learn and experiment, they just kinda wrote themselves into a mainstream creative purgatory where they still sit. I think if they somehow lost all popularity and nobody knew them anymore, they'd record an album that could dwarf even Origin od Symmetry.

    • @lovelyy6491
      @lovelyy6491 Год назад +3

      And it's crazy to me because they do still got the talent, for a while I thought maybe that was gone somehow, but what they did with Origin of Symmetry remixed/remastered version was incredible. I can't believe the people who worked on leveling up the classic OOS are the same people who released Simulation Theory and Will of the People

    • @jimbob7572
      @jimbob7572 Год назад +6

      Drones was fairly complex. Reapers is an insane song on guitar

  • @jmckenzie962
    @jmckenzie962 Год назад +1064

    Muse are a fascinating case of a band that has experienced a kind of Flanderization - back in the early 2000's, Muse were a band that played a unique concoction of prog, space rock, metal, glam, grunge and classical music, and wrote songs about many things. There were a few songs which delved into political topics, but that was never the main thing they wrote about in those days, with most of their songs simply being about whatever Matt was feeling when he wrote them (usually while under the influence of mushrooms). However, at some point around the Resistance era - the first album that was mainly concerned with the political stuff - they began to accumulate a lot of conspiracy theorists in their fanbase who were attracted to those songs that were all about sticking it to some vague authoritarian group. Muse have seemingly spent their entire career since pandering to these people, since they know how much they can milk them for cash, while gradually driving all the other fans away, and most tragically, sacrificing their original early 2000's sound - what initially made people like them - in the process. Muse have never been able to capture the specific vibe that their albums from Origin of Symmetry to Black Holes and Revelations had again and it's a damn shame.

    • @jasonfitzpatrick2197
      @jasonfitzpatrick2197 Год назад

      Probably a year or two earlier. HAARP was 2008, and the program was a real magnet for conspiracy weirds.

    • @blastdamage
      @blastdamage Год назад +101

      It's worth noting they weren't just pandering to the conspiracy crowd- Matt was balls deep in the conspiracy rabbithole for a while.

    • @captainmoondog1947
      @captainmoondog1947 Год назад +11

      grunge? glam rock? Lmaooooo
      If you want, you forgot to add proto punk, shoegaze, funk rock, dream pop, zeuhl, southern rock, gothic rock, j-rock, post rock, garage rock, rockabilly, noise rock XDDDD

    • @LiarpieVicinityFTW
      @LiarpieVicinityFTW Год назад +1

      @@blastdamage makes sense.

    • @Arkain89
      @Arkain89 Год назад +20

      tbh i didnt expect this sort of somewhat known cringe band from my teenage years writing pretty bland milktoast songs to turn into musical alex jones

  • @djlee_exe
    @djlee_exe Год назад +485

    All true, but that being said, I still fuck with Origin of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes and Revelations.

    • @Yankee4ever2
      @Yankee4ever2 Год назад +14

      all amazing albums, magnum opuses bands, they have like 5

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo Год назад +84

      Muse are a seminal "I prefer their old stuff" band. They really fell way the fuck off

    • @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435
      @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Год назад +2

      Easily the only major reason to listen to their discography.

    • @OcelotDAD
      @OcelotDAD Год назад +7

      Origin of Symmetry specifically is a wonderful album

    • @GroupofFeathers
      @GroupofFeathers Год назад +6

      And the studio disc of "Hullabaloo". High quality stuff!!!

  • @onaippiano3491
    @onaippiano3491 Год назад +1005

    I had quite the Muse phase while in middle school and it felt so disappointing to see them become more and more a shell of their former selves with each new album. My piano teacher was a big fan of them and I have great memories of learning music theory through their first albums, but we both agreed to not touch anything after The Resistance 😔

    • @aledandrian
      @aledandrian Год назад +25

      The 2nd Law is fire

    • @raihidara
      @raihidara Год назад +77

      ​@@aledandrianspecifically, a dumpster fire

    • @palecadaver2300
      @palecadaver2300 Год назад +2

      I would practice sunburn on the piano lol middle school me was so in love with their music. Couldn't agree more with your original comment

    • @bernabefernandeztouceda7315
      @bernabefernandeztouceda7315 Год назад +2

      Your piano teacher has no clue. Muse instead of Beethoven, yeah ok 🙄

    • @N_E_T_A
      @N_E_T_A Год назад

      Is your piano teacher Al Monaco?

  • @mjpaynewales
    @mjpaynewales Год назад +130

    I always thought the "political" messaging with Muse was just a sci-fi trope thing.

    • @HYBRIDZHQ
      @HYBRIDZHQ Год назад +6

      Ye same

    • @furonet138
      @furonet138 Год назад +4

      It basically is

    • @sausig773
      @sausig773 Год назад +8

      So, context is that matt Bellamy is supposedly into some conspiracy theory shit if I remember right. Or at least he was when they made their best stuff in 90s and 2000s.
      SO you get general stuff about rebellion, mind control, and people in power. BUT you don't actually get any real actionable message behind the music.
      That was always my working theory at least, but maybe it's an aesthetic thing they've just never evolved.

    • @underscorechaz
      @underscorechaz 7 месяцев назад

      Yes! It’s FUN to have a revolutionary tone to an album… But no one gets that

    • @nathanmeagher7869
      @nathanmeagher7869 3 месяца назад

      @@sausig773 There''s a video of Bellamy talking with Alex Jones about 9/11 and Bellamy getting pretty close to 9/11 trutherism or outright at it. He doesn't believe it now

  • @bichiroloXP
    @bichiroloXP Год назад +595

    I've always felt that the song Uprising was what killed Muse.
    It was a massive success and kinda pushed them more into the mainstream. I think Matt saw that and thought "this is where it's at" and went on to try to recreate that success.
    They even release a song that sounds almost the same every two albums (Psycho, WOTP) and promote it as the main single.

    • @voigto
      @voigto Год назад +30

      Nah before that Supermassive Black Hole was in Twilight which was monolithic at the time. I still see Black Holes and Revelations as their last good album (and subjectively the last time their live shows were good, like some of the best live shows period).
      I agree though that they started chasing a sound that was popular over the off the wall shit from Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry. I think it's fine for bands to "find their sound" but unfortunately Muse just started giving me later years U2 vibes after The Resistance.

    • @kidyuki1
      @kidyuki1 Год назад +5

      ​@@voigtoThat's true about Supermassive Black Hole, but at the same time, how often do you hear that song anymore? I feel like barely a day goes by without Uprising being played on rock radio somewhere.
      Also, I have a soft spot for the album The Resistance even though you're probably right about Black Holes And Revelations.

    • @mutedmathamatician
      @mutedmathamatician Год назад +5

      @@kidyuki1resistance had undisclosed desires. Massive L

    • @OmegaSMG
      @OmegaSMG Год назад +17

      Uprising was the moment the band started going downhill. They made a song about resisting the powers that be and it instantly became ad music. At some point, they became slightly better Imagine Dragons

    • @eggzaki
      @eggzaki Год назад +1

      I enjoyed it at the time but Muse died when the Resistance came out

  • @Plagues138
    @Plagues138 Год назад +2493

    Muse was solid, until every song became "they can't control us, government bad, rise up!".

    • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
      @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Год назад +55

      Yup. As soon as you make good points, everyone stops listening

    • @bobsmith12345
      @bobsmith12345 Год назад

      @@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 try listening more than 3 minutes through this video lol

    • @undergroundkingz7969
      @undergroundkingz7969 Год назад

      @@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245Not how it’s goin

    • @F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R
      @F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R Год назад +376

      @@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 It's not because they're making a point, it's because they've been making the same point with no variety since 2009

    • @sybill123ful
      @sybill123ful Год назад +149

      they didn’t do it in a cool way either, like ratm did it in a cool way… muse did not

  • @jdshumilla7314
    @jdshumilla7314 Год назад +863

    Don’t even act like Knights of Cydonia isn’t heat.

    • @yoruneko34
      @yoruneko34 Год назад +8

      They made an anime about it

    • @2099Oz
      @2099Oz Год назад +37

      It's hot garbage, indeed.

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo Год назад +9

      @@2099Oz fuckin gottem!

    • @TheSkaOreo
      @TheSkaOreo Год назад +21

      I mean I absolutely fucked with Knights of Cydonia when I was a kid.

    • @imthebestmayne122
      @imthebestmayne122 Год назад +15

      @@TheSkaOreo All Guitar Hero 3 players did. Not now, however.

  • @omoncon3941
    @omoncon3941 Год назад +339

    Before Warner pushed them to do a greatest hits album and the band responded by doing Will of the People, Matt had mentioned that they were thinking about 'hitting the restart button' and relocating to their hometown in Devon.
    I'm desperate to see them do that at this point if it means purging all of the terrible infuences they've been surrounded by and putting out worse and worse records.

    • @mr705yesplease
      @mr705yesplease Год назад +100

      I sincerely hope there is a redemption arc for Muse, even if it’s a small one. Their golden era is incredible and they still have the physical ability to tap into their trademark wild energy. Someone needs to lock them in a studio in Teignmouth, give Matt a bunch of shrooms again, and not let them out until they’ve written some actual Muse songs.

    • @locustboy8448
      @locustboy8448 Год назад

      ​@@mr705yespleaseI love it

    • @lilo5437
      @lilo5437 Год назад +7

      @@mr705yespleasehahah exactly

    • @thebatman1482
      @thebatman1482 Год назад +33

      I'm 99% convinced that they actually want to write those songs at this point. No amount of label pressure could push you to release these many subpar records without wanting to be compliant with their demands.

    • @santossouto
      @santossouto Год назад +9

      wake me up when they go back to Uno

  • @whatisyoutube600
    @whatisyoutube600 Год назад +73

    Their early albums are great.
    Muscle Museum, Newborn, Showbiz, Sing for Absolution, Map of the Problematique (to name a few) are still gorgeous, intricate and mindblowing songs. Top notch songwriting, compelling lyrics, and killer musicianship.
    As another commenter mentioned, I think Uprising was the beginning of their descent into cringe suckiness. While not a bad song, the commercial success of that single with it’s vague sloganeering, simplistic anthemic chorus, and generic rebellion call-to-action planted the seeds for the devolution of the band’s sound into mind-numbing quasi revolutionary stadium rock and blatant pandering.
    I used to admire the Muse boys as artists, but the cynic in me says they’re just all about easy money and fame now, given the huge nosedive in quality the past decade. That said, I want to leave room for the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Muse aren’t motivated by greed/chart success but a misplaced idea of what their fans actually want from them. Their highest streaming songs on Spotify are all from their early records, meaning the quality of those songs is still what drives people to them. I hope the band realizes that themselves soon enough.

    • @whatisyoutube600
      @whatisyoutube600 Год назад +3

      can’t believe I forgot to mention Hysteria in the standout tracks section - still one of the best basslines in rock history

    • @brandongriffith3580
      @brandongriffith3580 11 месяцев назад +2

      the live version of Map of the Problematique from HAARP is probably my favorite Muse song.

  • @DanielSantosAnalysis
    @DanielSantosAnalysis Год назад +513

    I think you're downplaying how good their initial records were, but it can't be denied that their last few albums have been inconsistent messes.

    • @mjpaynewales
      @mjpaynewales Год назад +15

      They've followed the Foo fighters arc pretty closely. So maybe the next one will be decent.

    • @kueller917
      @kueller917 Год назад +19

      Yeah a lot of friends look back on it as like a teenage phase but pop in Origin again and everyone's reminded how much energy those albums still deliver.

    • @DowaHawkiin
      @DowaHawkiin Год назад +4

      Muse 1997-2001 was the best era. Their b-sides are awesome

    • @mjpaynewales
      @mjpaynewales Год назад +6

      @@DowaHawkiin Absolution had it's moments

    • @Chico50445
      @Chico50445 Год назад +1

      Except the 2nd law that album was excellent

  • @feargm
    @feargm Год назад +80

    Origin of Symmetry and Absolution slap :/

    • @Yankee4ever2
      @Yankee4ever2 Год назад +18

      melon just a hater

    • @EverythingWentSideways
      @EverythingWentSideways Год назад +9

      showbiz too! and a handful of black holes tracks still hold up. everything after that felt so uninspired and phoned in, but tbh i dont care if all their new music is ass because we still got their great early material!

    • @feargm
      @feargm Год назад +7

      @@EverythingWentSideways agreed 100% - i think Showbiz is underrated if anything, its a great debut

    • @HORNGEN4
      @HORNGEN4 Год назад

      I think he made the point that the early stuff was decent, and only the last four albums are trash

    • @robo3007
      @robo3007 13 дней назад +2

      Black Holes and Revelations too

  • @TPD
    @TPD Год назад +27

    also, didn't they play Resistance at Malaysia specifically due to it's lyrics supporting love?

  • @eggzaki
    @eggzaki Год назад +22

    I still argue that Origin of Symmetry is one of the greatest albums of all time

    • @cheet0s859
      @cheet0s859 29 дней назад

      I'm with you on that it's my personal all time favorite album

    • @cheet0s859
      @cheet0s859 29 дней назад

      slay

  • @gardamis
    @gardamis Год назад +356

    I doubt this will be seen, but to add context to them taking the song from their set list in Malaysia, they replaced We Are Fucking Fucked with Resistance, a song about secret love. Probably a better overall message to fit in when you're performing in a country whose government doesn't like LGBTQ+ people. To quote the song, "Love is our resistance - They'll keep us apart, and they won't stop breaking us down - Hold me - Our lips must always be sealed"
    Saying it's a negative for people like Glenn Beck to have found common ground with Muse is somewhat of a non-point when we live in a world where right wing assholes say they like or liked RATM; I don't think that fact makes RATM any worse.
    And yes, the overall quality of albums from their first half to second half did have a drop-off. I will say their albums up to WOTP are, in my opinion, not nearly as bad as people make them out to be a lot of the time. I think the issue is the lows on the album are typically VERY low, but they also have some bangers. But yes, I listened to WOTP a few times hoping it world grow on me and haven't been back since. Not great. They still put on an amazing live show, though.

    • @jdg1251
      @jdg1251 Год назад +31

      Love your take, I fully agree. And no I'm not biased because I have a Muse pfp. Maybe just a little bit

    • @floatingash9494
      @floatingash9494 Год назад +12

      Yeah, I really think they made a good choice on that, honestly WAFF just exist to be a really dumb song (and i love it)

    • @user-jr3zr2mp9c
      @user-jr3zr2mp9c Год назад +23

      ​@@jdg1251I'd fully trust this man to make unbiased Muse reviews

    • @uglyaniimals
      @uglyaniimals Год назад +11

      kill or be killed and honestly won't stand down are still good to great songs imo

    • @Salad531
      @Salad531 Год назад +13

      Bias as hell because they’re one my favourites but I agree.I think drones, ST and Wotp are decent enough albums, they’re not amazing but they aren’t the worst thing in the world as some make them out to be (2nd law is actually amazing though, I will die on that hill)

  • @thefumexxl
    @thefumexxl Год назад +185

    They didn't always suck. Their first few records were excellent.

    • @killherqueen
      @killherqueen Год назад +6

      oh baby don't you know i suffer

    • @VoodooPadre
      @VoodooPadre Год назад

      @@killherqueenoh baby can you hear me moan

    • @badbadgilead2552
      @badbadgilead2552 Год назад +3

      he said that in the video...

    • @DefenestrateYourself
      @DefenestrateYourself Год назад +16

      @@badbadgilead2552 the vid title is misleading. “Muse sucks…now”

    • @badbadgilead2552
      @badbadgilead2552 Год назад

      @@DefenestrateYourself yes that is the title. You clearly didn't watch the video though, which was what my comment was about. 😂

  • @Salad531
    @Salad531 Год назад +91

    Muse removing WAFF was replaced with them playing ‘’Resistance’’ which is a song about secret love, it’s even more fitting and it’s a good way to not get cancelled during your show like 1975 and still get a message across

    • @mikhaelamann.1810
      @mikhaelamann.1810 Год назад +10

      i agree and was going to say this but didn’t know how to word it!

    • @mayathepsychiic
      @mayathepsychiic Год назад +10

      good choice of song to replace it with for sure

  • @JayJ4y95
    @JayJ4y95 Год назад +83

    Idk much about Muse but Undisclosed Desires will always be a banger to me

    • @DiAlexisPimentel
      @DiAlexisPimentel Год назад +10

      BANGER

    • @zzzzkkk
      @zzzzkkk 6 месяцев назад

      The song that started their change to be honest. If you liked it, you'll like their newer stuff as well.

    • @gracelandtoo6240
      @gracelandtoo6240 6 месяцев назад

      As an enjoyer of everything up to and including 2nd Law, Simulatiom Theory is hot garbage. It doesn't even come close to the worst stuff from Resistance.

  • @Kyle-qi8oj
    @Kyle-qi8oj Год назад +297

    the fall off of muse is something that should be studied in museums. how do you go from songs like stockholm syndrome, knights of cydonia, new born, and muscle museum, to fucking dig down and thought contagion?
    Edit: okay thought contagion isn’t that bad, I just think it pales in comparison to their earlier work.

    • @jennifertrandafir
      @jennifertrandafir Год назад +97

      Let's not forget the song of all time "We Are Fucking Fucked".

    • @robmarshall9026
      @robmarshall9026 Год назад +38

      Are you forgetting Kill Or Be Killed & The Handler? They have newer bangers for sure

    • @IolZ555
      @IolZ555 Год назад +14

      Or how you go from those first four albums to Simulation Theory

    • @Cleve_Crudgington
      @Cleve_Crudgington Год назад +6

      I like Dig Down :(

    • @yandhi5016
      @yandhi5016 Год назад +2

      Muse ums

  • @sethparker3381
    @sethparker3381 Год назад +276

    Say what you will about them Anthony, but I've seen them twice now and they're absolutely one of the best live bands around. I'm not what you'd call a superfan of them, but if they're playing at a festival, I always make it a priority to catch their set.

    • @Yankee4ever2
      @Yankee4ever2 Год назад +20

      best sets ever

    • @user-jr3zr2mp9c
      @user-jr3zr2mp9c Год назад +42

      Great performers for sure, as a regular listen they're meh but damn bellamy has energy

    • @matthewbanton7077
      @matthewbanton7077 Год назад +1

      I saw them at a festival six years ago and they were good. I saw them at a festival a couple of months ago and they absolutely sucked

    • @Viper-dz2kw
      @Viper-dz2kw Год назад +29

      I think they’re well aware that they’re a ‘live band’ at this point, specifically writing songs that are designed to be amazing live that rarely ever translate on the record, the “wow x song is terrible on the album but so much better live” is a super common take with muse nowadays

    • @obzzidian94
      @obzzidian94 Год назад +1

      Honestly they should just stay mainly as a live band and not do any more albums, kinda like Motley Crüe did. It always surprised me that they rejected the idea of doing a greatest hits album, considering that would be at least a more tolerable idea than this piece of garbage of an album. If they wanted to release any kind of new music they could’ve released the greatest hits album with a couple of new songs, and there you go.

  • @itsjvck1
    @itsjvck1 Год назад +24

    I’m praying for a Foo Fighters-esque comeback moment from Muse because their old work was so good. Like come on there’s gotta be an ounce of good left in the chamber for them

    • @tommo5597
      @tommo5597 11 месяцев назад +4

      Absolutely. Will Of The People had its moments in songs like Wont Stand Down and Kill Or Be Killed. I hope Muse take from that and make a solid album next because they’re an amazing group of musicians.

  • @charlie172011
    @charlie172011 Год назад +95

    Matt Bellamy is one of the most talented musicians in "mainstream" music and nothing can change my mind on that.
    Incredible pianist, amazing guitar player, and unbelievable voice (mostly on the first half of his career).
    And he wrote some gorgeous pieces too. It's not like he can't write. Man is simply a genius.

    • @alvarotaranta
      @alvarotaranta 11 месяцев назад +6

      ooook fanboy

    • @charlie172011
      @charlie172011 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@alvarotaranta ✌✌

    • @AOAMuse
      @AOAMuse 11 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@alvarotarantathis is when someone dont have argument 😂😂

    • @gunkman_man
      @gunkman_man 9 месяцев назад +6

      I think the stuff he writes instrumentally is nice, but his lyrics and themes kinda going downhill

    • @NeonBeeCat
      @NeonBeeCat 8 месяцев назад +1

      I completely agree and im not even a muse fan

  • @itsHavvik
    @itsHavvik Год назад +24

    Muse 🤝 50 Cent
    Being absolutely hated by Fantano

    • @maadkid
      @maadkid Год назад +1

      50?

    • @itsHavvik
      @itsHavvik Год назад

      @@maadkid yeah he’s always hated 50 cent. Most recently, his ‘WORST TRACK’ in the description of Nas’ Magic 2 album wasn’t a track, but just 50’s feature.

  • @BoomRoasted3
    @BoomRoasted3 Год назад +172

    I would retitle this video “Muse sucks now” because their 2000s material is quite good

    • @BoomRoasted3
      @BoomRoasted3 Год назад +6

      @@gnomefrompinkerton they (muse) have 3 albums I don’t like at all which are the most recent 3, so for me I feel the opposite

    • @emie1170
      @emie1170 Год назад +27

      @@gnomefrompinkertonidk bro their best albums are beyond good enough to make you not think about the newer ones

    • @emie1170
      @emie1170 Год назад

      @@gnomefrompinkerton ngl get up and fight is truly an abismal track

    • @monsty26
      @monsty26 Год назад +16

      @@gnomefrompinkerton Origin Of Symmetry is an overlooked masterpiece and it’s better than many other albums of that time

    • @emie1170
      @emie1170 Год назад +6

      @@monsty26 one of the bests of 2001. easily better than whatever the f amnesiac is supposed to be

  • @Dominator150395
    @Dominator150395 Год назад +168

    My favourite Muse moment was when, in the middle of a global pandemic where conspiracy theorists were losing their mind about how mask/test/vaccine mandates were the government trying to control us, they started making an album about the government trying to control us, and by the time the album actually came out, virtually all mask/test/vaccine mandates had been gone for months.

    • @H0NDAJET
      @H0NDAJET Год назад +16

      this is every muse album since the 2nd law lmao

    • @hiddenvalleyranch775
      @hiddenvalleyranch775 Год назад

      So they're not trying to control us anymore? They did exactly what they wanted to do with Covid. Now it's Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine / Trump, Trump, Trump. Until the next "crisis."

    • @carlosleon6374
      @carlosleon6374 Год назад

      Wait, is Muse antivax?! 😮

    • @hiddenvalleyranch775
      @hiddenvalleyranch775 Год назад +4

      @@carlosleon6374 Sounds like they're anti-authoritarian.

    • @H0NDAJET
      @H0NDAJET Год назад

      @@MatPandaZ that film was more to do with the stranger things hype and synth wave movement than anything to do with covid

  • @adams6782
    @adams6782 Год назад +117

    Muse: "They will not control us!"
    Also Muse: "Of course we'll censor ourselves for your personal comfort, sir."

    • @strangemobius
      @strangemobius Год назад

      "I don't have anything to prove, to you... sluts!"
      "Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down. Frank loves sluts. He loves... and what he means is, he... he'd be happy to prove anything you want... to you."

    • @-bielle2985
      @-bielle2985 Год назад +54

      It wasn't censoring tho. They played a song about believing love always resists hate, instead of a song about how everything sucks and we're all doomed

    • @zackzallie8735
      @zackzallie8735 10 месяцев назад +5

      I'd rather have a band that respects neighbor countries than some Bono wannabe that dates Taylor Swift.

  • @Aruari4n
    @Aruari4n Год назад +111

    Plug In Baby being a fucking banger is all I care about

    • @shazzyrv
      @shazzyrv Год назад +2

      truth

    • @StyxYRenegade
      @StyxYRenegade Год назад +6

      He did say that their early stuff was good.

    • @I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames
      @I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames Год назад +6

      So was that entire album tbh

    • @WilliamSussman
      @WilliamSussman Год назад +2

      First 3 albums were great imo

    • @robmarshall9026
      @robmarshall9026 Год назад +6

      @@StyxYRenegade He didn't tbh. I still don't think he's listened to it because Origin is nothing like Radiohead.

  • @jeremymr
    @jeremymr 4 месяца назад +4

    3:02 - I'm pretty sure this song was written at the start of the pandemic and has sort of satirical tongue-in-cheek references of how people were hoarding toilet paper and stuff, but it's also got some real anxiety mixed in there as Matt has mentioned in interviews. At the time it was written, nobody knew what would happen with the pandemic. A vaccine was not even in development yet. It's like they made anxious overthinking personified by the lyrics of a song. As someone with severe anxiety, I can relate. I've heard it live and it was a banger. I also love that this song has the exact opposite message of their song The Void, which is super optimistic about the future of humanity.
    Muse are very nerdy and write about a lot of philosophical type stuff, and that's part of why I love them. They've spoken in interviews about how a lot of their songs were meant to be sort of ironic and over-the-top in a fun way. But they also have a sincerity to them and aren't afraid to write really expressive emotional songs, which I like.
    I feel like Fantano misunderstands Muse a lot. They aren't his cup of tea, fine, but I think it's unfair for him to say they're bad or shit on their music so much just because it's not his thing. But the weird thing about music or art in general is how different people's perceptions can be. To me, Muse has a very distinctive sound in their music, particularly the classical-influenced stuff. It's hard for me to understand how someone could listen to the last few minutes of a song like "Citizen Erased" and not be moved. But that's just how it is, no matter how good something is there's gonna be someone trashing it somewhere haha
    By the way, I think it's laughable to critique a piece of art on the basis of being "uncool". That's a concept that is extremely subjective and changes all the time. Muse knows they aren't seen as cool by a lot of people, and they have even mentioned this in interviews. But ironically, that not caring and nerdiness is part of why I think they are very cool. MGMT is another band totally unconcerned about being seen as cool... Read any of their recent interviews. I think Fantano needs to work on letting go of his ego and obsession with his image a little bit. It seems like he's afraid to be perceived as a nerd. Maybe that's why he killed off his excellent Cal Chuchesta character. I don't know the lore, but I do know Cal was funny af.

  • @MegaVideoJames
    @MegaVideoJames Год назад +34

    I quit my job to attend a Muse concert because they wouldn’t let me get the time off and yet I agree with pretty much everything you said here in this video lmao

    • @serenazanchetti7487
      @serenazanchetti7487 Год назад +3

      I MOVED COUNTRIES for them!!! 😂😂😂 and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything so accurate as what this guy’s saying!

    • @MegaLoquendo2000
      @MegaLoquendo2000 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@serenazanchetti7487moved? Only makes sense if they're playing like once a week but you can perfectly travel once a year for a concert

    • @serenazanchetti7487
      @serenazanchetti7487 5 месяцев назад

      @@MegaLoquendo2000I moved to England cause I wanted to be near them 🤡

  • @Davidwv97
    @Davidwv97 Год назад +61

    Muse was brilliant up until 2011. Then they fell off a cliff. They did not copy Radiohead, that's the laziest narrative possible. Origin of Symmetry is a world class album, so are Absolution, Black Holes and Resistance. I've seen them live three times and they're honestly one of the best live bands I've ever seen.

    • @lsweed
      @lsweed Год назад +5

      Radiohead are a thousand times better band than this knock off.

    • @tommo5597
      @tommo5597 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@lsweedsimp

    • @lsweed
      @lsweed 11 месяцев назад

      🙄
      @@tommo5597

    • @oh9034
      @oh9034 6 месяцев назад

      @@lsweedradiohead bumlicker. if you can’t see past radiohead then you don’t deserve to have an opinion on music in general

    • @halionextra
      @halionextra 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@lsweed Cry more, fanboy.

  • @timkirsten6184
    @timkirsten6184 Год назад +80

    As a huge fan of both bands, I've never seen the validity in the argument that Muse is derivative of Radiohead. Maybe a little on Showbiz, but Origin of Symmetry is really its own beast that could only be created by Muse.
    Matt is a bad lyricist but I don't think it's fair to associate Muse with their worst fans. Though I think "brace for the final solution" in Thought Contagion should never have seen the light of day

    • @Salad531
      @Salad531 Год назад +7

      Falsetto+Guitar+Drum=Radiohead trust

    • @vasvas8914
      @vasvas8914 Год назад +8

      @@Salad531 oh wow, that really is such a unique combination. No other band uses these three things

    • @MvsG18
      @MvsG18 Год назад +1

      like to be fair, since the 90s any band that's somewhat alternative is considered a derivative of Radiohead, hard to depart from the most modern influential band lol (being from the 90s ofc)

    • @Salad531
      @Salad531 Год назад

      @@vasvas8914 yeah it was sarcasm

    • @ale14zoppi
      @ale14zoppi Год назад

      Matt's lyrics can go from Compliance to Verona in the span of five minutes and I can't wrap my head around why

  • @wiebestins7389
    @wiebestins7389 Год назад +23

    muse was actually the first rock band to be a fan of. It was my introduction in rock music. They didn’t scare me. I listened to every single song and love them to this day. My tastes have grown a lot since but i still love muse for their music

  • @lorenzobonanni5513
    @lorenzobonanni5513 Год назад +5

    99% talking about lyrics and 1% about music. Music is far more important than lyrics when we are talking about music, do you agree?
    Otherwhise we can read books or poetry with some background instrumental. Lyrics give you a key to understand the context, music goes beyond rationality.
    So I think u had to focus about music. Because hearing a song and say "it's annoying" it's something someone could use for a statistical analysis, like a single opinion of a simple guy. U are acting like a music critic so u should focus on their music and trying to be objective. But i think your channel is a place where a guy talks about music (using terms like" suck") not giving a damn about an objective evaluation on songwriting skills (that is the only thing that allow someone to get away, as much as possible, from a subjective point of view).

  • @jackknowles5295
    @jackknowles5295 Год назад +28

    Undisclosed Desires is an undeniable banger

  • @thepancakereviewer
    @thepancakereviewer Год назад +19

    Up til drones they were great.
    I dont care what anyone says "The 2nd Law" bumps

    • @srobbins1973
      @srobbins1973 Год назад +1

      Good albums

    • @jdg1251
      @jdg1251 Год назад +4

      Drones may have cringy lyrics but it's a blast musically. Some of Matt's best guitar work ever

    • @Bonnienightmr
      @Bonnienightmr Год назад +6

      @@jdg1251yeah, Repaers and Handler. Dead Inside is a great song too. And The Globalist is extremely good. I, personally, like Defector a lot, but can see why some don’t. Couldn’t care less about the rest tho.

    • @thepancakereviewer
      @thepancakereviewer Год назад +2

      @jdg3644 I feel the cringy lyrics definetly bring that album though.
      Lots of albums have great production and instrumentation but have terrible lyrics that really ruin the experience

    • @srobbins1973
      @srobbins1973 Год назад

      @@thepancakereviewer that's a fair point

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily Год назад +66

    I still love "Hysteria" and "Knights of Cydonia" but _good lord_ they've been awful for like a decade now.

  • @rockehrollmcdonals3605
    @rockehrollmcdonals3605 Год назад +26

    Why does it sound like fantano still secretly likes muse

    • @HORNGEN4
      @HORNGEN4 Год назад +5

      He said he likes the earlier albums. Aren't we all secretly fans of the earlier in albums? I wouldn't dare tell anyone. I like Muse anymore...too embarrassing

    • @rockehrollmcdonals3605
      @rockehrollmcdonals3605 Год назад +2

      @@HORNGEN4 nah man you can tell he still likes their new stuff and is so ashamed by it, that he had to make this video so nobody would accuse him for it. He is coping so hard

    • @HYBRIDZHQ
      @HYBRIDZHQ Год назад

      ​@@HORNGEN4who cares what others think you listen too lmao.

    • @ShirleyTimple
      @ShirleyTimple Год назад

      Thet only one here coping is you, kid. Not everyone is going to like your lame music and pretending they secretly do is peak copium😅

  • @TitanicBee
    @TitanicBee Год назад +25

    About the Malaysia concert, it is true that they did remove a song from their setlist by request, but the one they substituted for it was a song about how love is more powerful than the system. So they sort of relayed the message even more directly.

    • @johndeleonardis901
      @johndeleonardis901 11 месяцев назад +2

      Do you know which songs were swapped? I imagine "We are F**king F**ked" was the one that got removed...was "Resistance" played instead?

    • @furonet138
      @furonet138 8 месяцев назад

      @@johndeleonardis901Yes, that’s what happened

  • @wes008pwns
    @wes008pwns Год назад +26

    Muse were the band that got me into music. I didn't have much of a musical palate prior to learning about them; I was just listening to what was topping the charts. Muse were what got me diving into full albums, paying attention to lyrics (ironic giving this video's content), and analyzing song structure. I still think their first five albums (yes, even The Resistance to an extent) were very good. But I do agree that they've taken a massive nosedive beginning with The 2nd Law. I didn't even listen to their latest album, I'm so uninterested. Totally on board with the video's sentiments, I just wanted to throw out that their early work really had something good in it.

  • @charmsz566
    @charmsz566 Год назад +21

    I admit, I am a muse fan. When it comes to their lyrics, I feel like I've always been pretty forgiving for two reasons. 1: Matt Bellamy is the frontrunner and definitely leads the group with extremely complex and innovative composition (referring to their superior first few albums, not so much the recent ones), and I think that it's fair to accept some degree of compromise on the lyric he writes in exchange for all the work he did in blending genres and contributing to production.
    and 2: I never really wanted an outspoken protest from them against a specific cause. What always drew me to Muse was the sense of escapism. Their lyrics are like something out of a young adult sci-fi book and pardon me for being an absolute dweeb,as a high schooler, I thought those vague 1984 references were something super clever -- a fictional world that, i realized as a maturing, conscious milennial, mirrors the way the real world is falling down around us. Is it overplayed at this point? absolutely (no pun intended). And if Muse was so down to switch up their style so drastically on their last few albums, I think it's fair to expect a departure from vague political / scifi overtones. All this to say... I'm still a Muse fan lol. catch me at the gym going my 100% hardest when that Knights of Cydonia breakdown comes on.

    • @emmyrose233
      @emmyrose233 Год назад +5

      Your second point is spot on. I don't love Muse's lyrics but I've never felt that they were supposed to relate to our own world. It always came across as if they were writing from the perspective of fictional characters in some kind of dystopian sci-fi world.

    • @Direksone
      @Direksone 10 месяцев назад +2

      If you're into that sci Fi lyrical stuff have you given Coheed and Cambria a try? Aside from that many cool songs and great musicianship.

  • @blendernoob64
    @blendernoob64 Год назад +38

    This video hurt me Antknee. As much as Muse sucks nowadays, their run from Showbiz to The Resistance is some of my favorite music on the freaking planet. Not only is it nostalgic for me (Muse was the first rock band I called "my favorite band"), but Muse got me to continue to play the Piano, they got me to learn guitar and experiment with effects, and I still return to their music all the time. They will always be my 2nd favorite band.
    I will say this, for each of their records post 2nd Law, they are definitely trying very very hard to make music they would enjoy. We arent enjoying it, but I can tell Matt Bellamy and the gang thought "yeah, Whammy Pedal dubstep is a good idea! 'Your ass belongs to me now' on Psycho is a good idea! Getting Timbaland as a producer on an electronic rock album is a good idea! The line 'We are fucking fucked' is a good idea!" They give their bad ideas a budget of a Marvel movie. I respect that at least.

    • @MaxRosewater
      @MaxRosewater Год назад +3

      I agree with you. Muse is awesome. I've always still loved Muse and always will, they still have some really great songs. Admittedly, yes Showbiz through Resistance is their peak, but I really love The 2nd Law and Drones as well.

    • @blendernoob64
      @blendernoob64 Год назад +4

      @@MaxRosewater I didn’t care for 2nd law that much, but Drones has some high lights like Dead Inside and Reapers

  • @Platanov
    @Platanov Год назад +18

    How in the HECK is Muse anything like Radiohead? I'm a big fan of Muse's first 5 albums, and of most of Radiohead's work, but I have NEVER understood why people say Muse sounds like Radiohead. Now hearing Fantano mention it I feel like I'm an alien or something. What am I missing?

    • @raithrover1976
      @raithrover1976 Год назад +1

      I always thought Muse were like a mash up of Queen II era Queen, Sparks and U2. I also don't really hear any Radiohead in there.

    • @kristinatsourdalakis6531
      @kristinatsourdalakis6531 Год назад

      Totally agree, never understood the connection. Maybe older Muse to older Radiohead, like The Bends days? I guess I can kind of hear Matt Bellamy belt out ‘Black Star’ in my head… but it’s definitely a tenuous comparison.

    • @Platanov
      @Platanov Год назад

      @@raithrover1976 Comparisons to Queen and U2 definitely make sense to me.

  • @infidelicteeth6598
    @infidelicteeth6598 Год назад +79

    Early material is great, title could make one assume they've always sucked, though I'm sure "Muse Sucks Now" isn't as attention grabbing. The performances on Origin of Symmetry are amazing and their first several albums have artist merit that their modern image shouldn't discourage viewers from checking out. Similar situation to Coldplay.

    • @mr705yesplease
      @mr705yesplease Год назад +31

      Title is clickbait. I would argue Anthony has not sat down and attentively listened to Origin, Absolution, or Black Holes, in a super long time. He is absolutely right about why they suck now and they deserve the harsh criticism, but yeah, people should really listen to their good stuff.

    • @ReadyMindsetGo
      @ReadyMindsetGo Год назад +1

      Yeah Parachutes is a genuinely good album! Such a shame how some bands become so big they somehow have to turn to shit to cater to a shit audience (yes mainstream audiences are shit).

    • @planeguy95
      @planeguy95 Год назад +3

      @@ReadyMindsetGoColdplay genuinely had 4 excellent first albums - Viva La Vida is a masterpiece imo. They have kinda lost their way since then but they’re still amazing live

    • @negangains2684
      @negangains2684 Год назад

      @@planeguy95 Muse is pretty much the same way. I'd much rather listen to Coloratura than 90% of Muse songs after The 2nd Law, though.

    • @planeguy95
      @planeguy95 Год назад

      @@negangains2684 Fair comment. Though I do really like Simulation Theory, it’s grown on me a lot over time. The Void is one of Muse’s best songs of the last 10 years imo

  • @-bielle2985
    @-bielle2985 Год назад +40

    For context: They replaced "We Are F*cking F*cked" (a dumb song about how we're all doomed and the world is ending) with "Resistance" (a song about love always resisting and always defeating hate). Say what you want about it, but they didn't censor themselves, quite the opposite.
    Edit: Also, i really recommend you take a look at the Malaysian subreddit to get an understanding about the 1975 story and how the singer's act actually made the government double down on the persecution against LGBTQ people. Praising an act that did way, WAY more harm than good to a group of people is weird.

    • @bramve5021
      @bramve5021 Год назад +1

      Wether the 1975 protested in in a good or bad way, that's up for discussion. But in the end, it's the Malaysian governement that is the root cause of this harm, not the 1975. Project your anger at the Malaysian governement which doesn't respect basic human rights, instead of at people protesting against that governement.

    • @-bielle2985
      @-bielle2985 Год назад +5

      @@bramve5021 the issue is: there are ways of protesting. And I don't think they chose the right way. You need to read the room of the place you're in. Yeah, I'm sure they had good intentions but in the end of the day, Matty Healy will return to his mansion in a 1st world country and the LGBTQ people in Malaysia will still suffer more for HIS actions.
      There are plenty of way more effective ways to protest than put a targeted group into a even greater danger.

  • @timblom7364
    @timblom7364 Год назад +9

    Muse replaced The song WAFF from the Malaysia setlistn because it had swear words and replaced it with the rong The Resistance, a song that has become a gay anthem in MUSE circles because of it's mentions of love being suppressed by the powers that be. It was the best choice they could have made

  • @yourjunes
    @yourjunes 10 месяцев назад +2

    2001 Muse:
    Microwaves me insane
    A blade cuts in your brain
    Sounds like forks on a plate
    Blackboard scratched with hate
    2022 Muse:
    Ah
    We are fucking fucked
    Ah
    We are fucking fucked

  • @iivvrryy
    @iivvrryy Год назад +27

    Man idk they’re just fun. I really can’t see why they’re worth getting so mad over. I totally get why they’re not people’s thing but they’re not “destroying rock music”. I know it’s cheesy and stupid but sometimes that’s what I wanna listen to.

    • @vasvas8914
      @vasvas8914 Год назад +1

      they squandered their huge potential

    • @robmarshall9026
      @robmarshall9026 Год назад +6

      @@vasvas8914 They reached it. They put out 3 classic albums, headlined Glastonbury and played 2 nights at Wembley to like 200,000 people.

    • @iivvrryy
      @iivvrryy Год назад +1

      @@vasvas8914 Nah man they peaked with BHAR. Nowhere really to go but down, might as well just have fun now.

    • @vasvas8914
      @vasvas8914 Год назад

      @@iivvrryy I agree that they were amazing, but their new music diminishes their accomplishments.

    • @iivvrryy
      @iivvrryy Год назад

      @@vasvas8914 Not really lol, just don’t listen to it lmfao

  • @Neil.a_1
    @Neil.a_1 Год назад +27

    I think Fantano is overly critical on this one. Went and saw them live and they were awesome. Totally agree though about their latest album, WOTP is a pretty big let down as a Muse fan.

    • @iivvrryy
      @iivvrryy Год назад +4

      He’s always had an obsessive hateboner for this band tbh

    • @JJ-tk7xf
      @JJ-tk7xf Год назад +7

      Yeah, it feels weird for Fantano to go after them like this, especially when he's shown such little interest in them in the past outside of his reviews. This video honestly felt so... unnecessary (and I say that as someone who agrees with most of his points). Plus, I think it's difficult to say a band categorically suck when they're all really talented guys, sound incredible live, and have a super impressive run of material in the early 2000s.

  • @Dipsoid
    @Dipsoid Год назад +3

    Ugh, the criticism of early Muse that they they were "a little derivative of Radiohead" is so lazy. Their music was completely different and the comparison always annoyed me because the only similarities between the two bands is that they both play rock music and Bellamy has a similar voice to Yorke.

  • @mz7320
    @mz7320 Год назад +24

    I don't understand the hate for muse, they literally the most unproblematic band, they just minding their own business 😂

    • @tonttu7979
      @tonttu7979 Год назад +1

      Thats kind of his point

  • @Berd
    @Berd Год назад +23

    they made more than one song?

    • @iivvrryy
      @iivvrryy Год назад +8

      Hilarious and original joke

    • @farhanmahalludin
      @farhanmahalludin Год назад +1

      Unless you only heard them from that baseball scene in Twilight, then yeah.

    • @HYBRIDZHQ
      @HYBRIDZHQ Год назад +2

      ​@@iivvrryybro thought he had a banger

  • @iceyroo
    @iceyroo Год назад +69

    KoC goes hard on GH3

  • @aspeckt112
    @aspeckt112 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve always considered Muse to be a band that accidentally wrote stadium rock songs, and have then spent the rest of their career trying to intentionally write stadium rock songs.

  • @111Malefic
    @111Malefic Год назад +4

    Fantano just can't help himself, his body needs him to make a Muse hating video every once in a while lol

  • @farhanmahalludin
    @farhanmahalludin Год назад +63

    Went to see their KL show last week, and I got to admit songs from WOTP like Compliance and Halloween are good live even if you're not a big fan of them on the album. The thing about Muse is that they will always put on a good concert.

    • @Marth8880
      @Marth8880 Год назад +5

      yup totally agree, saw them in Glasgow this year and man oh man, the WOTP songs live hit SO much harder

    • @farhanmahalludin
      @farhanmahalludin Год назад +4

      @@Marth8880 Kill Or Be Killed and Won't Stand Down are phenomenal. Hope they will remain on the setlist on the next tour.

    • @ZionSiva
      @ZionSiva Год назад

      Yep, really great live band, but agree that latest records are super weak

    • @hotaruhime
      @hotaruhime Год назад +3

      I've seen Muse six times (including last March) and I completely agree with you. I didn't get on the new songs at all but they are always incredible live and I had a great time anyway.

  • @tbhreviews6611
    @tbhreviews6611 Год назад +90

    All the way up till resistance was just amazing music in my eyes then 2nd law came and had a couple of decent tracks and then it kinda went down hill from there and I still give there music a chance because they meant a lot to me growing up.

    • @benjamincarmona3703
      @benjamincarmona3703 Год назад +11

      I still liked some tracks of drones, the lyrics were bad tho, but the music was enjoyable

    • @farhanmahalludin
      @farhanmahalludin Год назад +6

      @@benjamincarmona3703 Reapers and The Globalist are some of their best works musically. Shame about the lyrics though.

  • @MUSE1795
    @MUSE1795 Год назад +7

    Look, I'm obviously a massive fan. And while I do vouch for them, even today, I can understand why people don't like them post-Resistance. But you cannot invalidate that Showbiz and Hullabaloo are fantastic, Origin Of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes And Revelations are masterpieces. They have cemented themselves as one of the greatest live bands of all time as well. I personally do enjoy them still, but to say they straight up suck is just bs.

  • @MrBrightside390
    @MrBrightside390 Год назад +25

    I feel like the whole "muse sucks" thing was cool in 2012 when they were still making hits but at this point they're so irrelevant that I just can't help but look back and appreciate the great music they made from 2000-2006. Bashing muse in 2023 at this point is like kicking a dead horse. You're also looking at it strictly from an album perspective. Muse was one of the best live acts from that decade.

    • @randyjohnson7908
      @randyjohnson7908 Год назад +1

      I agree, there have been good songs here and there after 2006. But their consistency was lacking. Their live shows still kick ass though for real, saw them live last year and they killed it.

  • @MUSE1795
    @MUSE1795 Год назад +8

    Excuse me? Origin Of Symmetry isn't great?? Wtf are you smoking?

  • @ThisNameIsVeryClever
    @ThisNameIsVeryClever Год назад +45

    2008: first Hunger Games book releases
    2009: The Resistance releases
    I think we know what happened.

    • @emie1170
      @emie1170 Год назад +4

      nah the resistance is based on 1984 Bellamy does love popular culture so hg may have given him the motivation most def

    • @TMmodify
      @TMmodify Год назад +5

      Dude was on infowars in 2006, he always was a conspiracy theory nut

    • @jmckenzie962
      @jmckenzie962 Год назад

      ​@@TMmodify Yeah, I feel like a lot of people have forgotten just how huge 9/11 Trutherism was in the 2000's. Plenty of celebrities fully bought into that shit (I remember there was a song by the rapper Jadakiss that had the line "Why did Bush knock down the towers" in it, for instance).

    • @nimrodery
      @nimrodery Год назад

      @@jmckenzie962 We've had approximately zero changes to the systems we use to fireproof skyscrapers since then. PNAC seems to have made the policy decision, even if Bush did nothing someone needs to be facing charges. But he's not a war criminal, he's a charming old man who paints pictures.

  • @V-Atlas
    @V-Atlas Год назад +2

    bro really downplayed "origin of symmetry" and thought we would let that slide 💀

  • @Teeheehee093
    @Teeheehee093 10 месяцев назад +2

    How did they go from Origin of Symmetry and Absolution to Simulation Theory and whatever the new album is called

  • @jasonmitchell25
    @jasonmitchell25 Год назад +21

    Agree that muse sucks. BUT, haven’t many LGBQT+ folk in Malaysia openly stated that Matty Healy is doing them a disservice by going against the norms there? I’ve seen several people on socials talking about how they’d rather have concerts exist in their country than their messaging being pushed (even if Healy’s message is a good one). I see Muse cutting those songs from the set list as them giving those people a concert. I understand that it’s going against the messaging they’re putting in their music and yes there absolutely is hypocrisy, but I think at the end of the day they want people to hear their music.

  • @jamesosborne7782
    @jamesosborne7782 Год назад +10

    Just accept that they don't take themselves seriously lol, they're just having fun with it. Also, having seen them live even the shittest song becomes the best thing you've ever heard.

  • @erickr199
    @erickr199 8 месяцев назад +3

    Muse is one of the rock bands that defined the type of rock music I like as I was growing up. It felt different and had its own identity compared to stuff released by others. The mix of space-synth, electric guitar, crunchy bass and piano gave them a uniqueness to their sound. But as time have gone I've noticed not only on Muse but many other bands and artists I follow, the way the music industry works, in which artists are expected to release the same album, with the same music genre over and over because doing other-wise is betraying what people know them for, makes them artistically stagnate. If you see the rock scene right now, many of the bands that keep releasing albums to this day, are mostly known for the records they made decades ago
    Thanks for listening to my TedTalk

  • @Daniel_Boni
    @Daniel_Boni Год назад +25

    Muse have always been one of my favorite bands ever since I first heard the song Hysteria and was blown away by its ridiculously bad ass bass riff. That being said, it gets harder and harder to defend the band as none of their releases since The Resistance have been good. Drones was absurdly goofy, Simulation Theory tried some fun new things that just didn’t work (you’re not Prince, Mr. Bellamy) The 2nd Law decided it might be cool to throw some terrible dubstep in and WOTP was…honestly not that bad in my opinion (I know) but the title track was laughably bad.
    But I will defend We Are Fucking Fucked to my dying day that shit rules ok

  • @wishywashy7000
    @wishywashy7000 Год назад +23

    I think Radiohead is the pretentious band, not Muse

  • @Brittany.b76
    @Brittany.b76 Год назад +10

    Take that back anthony! 😔 😟

  • @mychemicalrepublican8420
    @mychemicalrepublican8420 Год назад +5

    I think the next Muse album will be better... because i cant see how it could get any worse

  • @lparry9004
    @lparry9004 Год назад +11

    I feel like the main difference between Origin of Symmetry and Will of the People is that when writing Origin, the band was on mushrooms. When writing Wotp, the band was raising families, and I don't blame them for this. In recent years their drive to be as financially successful as possible comes off more because they want to provide for their families more than anything else.

  • @antroidi7283
    @antroidi7283 Год назад +9

    Long story short: Fantano got pressed because Muse didn't play We Are Fucking Fucked in Malaysia even though they're political. Also Fantano doesn't like new Muse and it's nothing new.

    • @huracan360
      @huracan360 Год назад +3

      Just Fantano being liberal again

    • @oscarr9723
      @oscarr9723 Год назад +3

      Because its Fantano I had a feeling there had to be some political controversy that motivated this video.

    • @HowCalcifer0890
      @HowCalcifer0890 Год назад

      I just don’t get the video. He doesn’t even describe how the band started? He just rants about Politics more than muse lmao, and compares them to Matty Healy, a one time incident. Doesn’t mention much of their old songs, but I guess that’s what happens if you’re a music snob who wants to spend 8 minutes saying “They’re bad! Politics bad! Message of Unity and loving each other bad!”

  • @murphyphillipsmusic
    @murphyphillipsmusic Год назад +37

    They have a ton of good songs. Excellent live band as well.

  • @nickstipp8458
    @nickstipp8458 Год назад +6

    I dunno man, I just saw them live for the 6th time and they continue to blow the doors off. Incredible live act with a chunky back catalog

  • @deathbypigx3h
    @deathbypigx3h 11 месяцев назад +3

    Look, I understand where people are coming from when they say they liked the first 2-3 albums of a band better than their later work. I’ve seen this said about Coldplay and Oasis too, as well as a bunch of other bands. I get it, but people who harp on it so much and begin to say they dislike or even hate a band because of their newer albums just seems weak to me.
    There aren’t 10 songs by Pearl Jam I like more than the entirety of their debut record. Same goes for Chevelle and their 3rd album. I have my favorites, but just because I don’t vibe with someone’s later work doesn’t mean I’m going to write them off as sucking. I’d still say I like Pearl Jam and Chevelle, even if I don’t actively listen to more than half their studio albums.
    In fact, I say good for the groups that stick together, even if they rest on their laurels a bit. Musicians don’t owe it to anyone but themselves to make music, and adding songs to their library that their fans dislike doesn’t change how much people enjoy their early stuff. If you liked Muse in the past, but you think they tainted their legacy over the last ten years, that’s just on you. Your tastes don’t have to evolve with a band, and that’s okay. Going on and on about how you used to like a band, but now actively hate them is just for the birds, imo

  • @5335hello
    @5335hello Год назад +10

    SPACE DEMENTIA💛💛💛💛

  • @nrd1997
    @nrd1997 Год назад +10

    matt bellamy is a stagnant genius

  • @mygroinisonfire
    @mygroinisonfire Год назад +4

    Muse had a REALLY big hit with "Uprising" and they've been trying to chase that hit ever since without looking at why their fans liked them in the first place. Uprising isn't a bad song in my opinion, but it was way more simplified and direct then anything they made before and I still consistently hear that song in public and on the radio. I do really believe that it's not The Resistance album as a whole, but that specific song that made Muse what they are today, for better or worse.

  • @teknonmy7210
    @teknonmy7210 Год назад +3

    what I like saying about Muse is that they have about the same trajectory and number of quality albums as Coldplay, except Coldplay gets way more flack for being pop all along

  • @amberplease9537
    @amberplease9537 Год назад +9

    ooof this is a tough one for me
    muse were my favorite band, from a bit before the resistance dropped, until like a year or two after drones, to the point i've made long lasting friendships with local fans, went to their hometown literally 6 years ago (i'm from latinamerica), saw them at reading festival's front row, appeared on the BBC streaming and got a setlist signed by matt and dom
    TR was my first muse release and didn't meet my expectations considering their past discography, so my friends and i waited for their return to form. drones was good imo, but can't say the same for the rest
    and i'm sure the issue has been matt himself this whole time ngl, i think it's obvious he holds the band's musical vision and he just won't leave his comfort zone. he won't go deeper in his politics themes, musical ideas, writing habilites, composition, you name it
    which sucks! they're very good musicians and matt himself is very talented, but he needs to accept some help to make his ideas come true in a well executed way. the man just can't humble himself and be vulnerable, and it shows. and he's dragging the band with him
    with that being said, i don't think the song issue is that bad. granted, i guess changing the song because its title has a swear word is super lame, but they picked resistance as the replacement, which is literally a song about hidden love. so i kinda see what they did there
    still tho, shows that muse/matt doesn't have a backbone. how are you so easily convinced to change a song because of a swear word, when that song is part of an album that invites to popular uprising and challenging the status quo? why did you call the organizers in the first place, why not change the song without letting them know?
    i hope they take the backlash as fuel for writing what they actually believe and stand for. i don't think that would be an issue for other bands, but muse has made those themes their brand and aesthetic, looking stupid in the process
    their live shows are still amazing and matt is a great showman tho, probably gonna see them again if/when they come back

    • @mikhaelamann.1810
      @mikhaelamann.1810 Год назад

      i think alot of it has to do w them not wanting to let their malaysian fans down. they hadn’t performed in malaysia for 16 yrs prior to that performance, and the fans reaction to them performing resistance and stuff like that is what they were aiming for i believe. it meant a lot for them- look at the comments on muses most recent insta post from their performance in malaysia, there are like tons of positive comments from malaysian fans.

    • @amberplease9537
      @amberplease9537 Год назад +1

      @@mikhaelamann.1810 you're right, i can empathize with them when it took 7 years to have a proper muse show in my country and that felt like an eternity hahaha. i bet malaysian fans are happy and i guess that's the important part, but we can still criticise the band for not having a backbone. although, to be fair, we're not in malaysia so we can't surely know what's the mood in there regarding this whole situation

  • @WilliamMaranciMashups
    @WilliamMaranciMashups Год назад +10

    i remember hearing "psycho" for the first time and thinking that it sounded like a nickelback ripoff. now that it's been about a decade since then, i can say that nickelback is currently a better band than muse.

  • @caitlinrix294
    @caitlinrix294 Год назад +5

    ...I honestly didn't realise _Resistance_ was that disliked until recently. It was the last album of theirs I actively listened to, although that's less due to not being overly impressed by _The 2nd Law_ and more due to my interests shifting. Good timing on my part, evidently.

    • @lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191
      @lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 Год назад +1

      Eh, The Resistance is actually divisive among Muse fans depending on who you ask (Uprising, Undisclosed Desires & Resistance are still bangers though)

    • @martinap5860
      @martinap5860 Год назад +2

      Well, don't rely on what you read here too much. I only noticed something of a "fall" when I got involved with other Muse fans on social media. Lots of nice people but also those "Everything-after-Absolution-(or Resistance)-is-crap"-people. I honestly could do without the latter ones and didn't notice anything of a fall before they told me. So, truth is, Muse are doing well, filling stadiums, making great music and it never gets boring. They are one of the best live bands. So, if you wanna know if they released good stuff after The Resistance, find out and trust your own ears.

  • @elboberto7
    @elboberto7 Год назад +3

    One thing that always bothered me about muse is that they would take Melodies and excerpts from classical piano (Chopin op 9 no 2, lots of Rachmaninov etc) but it always felt like they were trying to pass it off as their own because it’s all public domain lol

  • @tuomase6999
    @tuomase6999 Год назад +11

    Albumwise, kinda yes sadly. Muse live, NO THEY DON'T!

  • @yoruneko34
    @yoruneko34 Год назад +13

    My whole music career is hitting the drums too hard and waking the neighbors while playing Muse in Rockband on the 360

  • @Chico50445
    @Chico50445 Год назад +3

    The 2nd Law was a masterpiece, it was musically amazing with a good variety of styles. For once the lyrics aren’t “rise up against the government “ but instead “the way we are living is unsustainable treating our resources as if they weren’t finite” Animals finally has lyrics a bit more specific critiquing bankers and massive corporations who keep taking more and giving less back.

  • @superjew837
    @superjew837 Год назад +4

    Muse still puts on one of the best live shows I’ve ever seen. No amount of bad albums can stop Knights of Cydonia from making me want to rip a stop sign out of the ground (in a good way)

    • @SGC90-t5y
      @SGC90-t5y Год назад

      Love that galloping guitar riff at the end!

  • @armannasr3681
    @armannasr3681 Год назад +6

    Say what you wanna say about muse, but their live shows are the best, they are arguably some of the best performers. Terrible lyricists though lol.

  • @ryanwilson9563
    @ryanwilson9563 Год назад +16

    I respectfully disagree with your opinion. However, I respect that art is objective. I enjoy how Muse's evolution, musically, has developed throughout my childhood, thus adulthood. Knight's of Cydonia is my favourite song composed by Muse, and I consider is an absolute masterpiece. It is fair to consider their more recent ventures, in my opinion, to be sub-par to their earlier work. However, I take into consideration nostalgia and how their older music makes me feel. I, for one, like the fact that they have been taking risks and making music that they enjoy making and making statements that they believe in. I am only 27, and I have been listening to Muse for over a decade, and I'm yet to be underwhelmed by the music they have provided, however, how niche it has been at times. Maybe I'm biased because I genuinely believe Muse is one of my favourite bands of all time and feel that they are incredibly influential in modern times. Apologies for this massive comment guys 😂

  • @DjDarkD
    @DjDarkD Год назад +2

    Matthew Bellamy: laughing in sold out concerts containing over 60,000 people attending.

  • @PhoenixFlight94
    @PhoenixFlight94 Год назад +1

    It's such a shame since the run of Origin, Absolution, and Black Holes is pretty damn good with Matt showing his classical piano influence and letting Chris go wild on his bass parts to help them stand out from the crowd. Once Uprising's success happened, it marked the beginning of the end as it just went to show that vapid political nonsense with no real substance and character was what was going to pay the mortgages.

  • @mrflipperinvader7922
    @mrflipperinvader7922 Год назад +6

    Seems like only "Well known music critics" are saying Muse is bad
    But every where else I see average to positive reviews...so what is going on here?

    • @Salad531
      @Salad531 Год назад +1

      Muse fan here but nah, lots of people think they suck nowadays and that’s fine

  • @evanosuilleabhain1004
    @evanosuilleabhain1004 Год назад +7

    Their fans paid big money to see them, muse’s only obligation is to make sure that happens. There was a similar conversation when radiohead performed in Israel a few years back. Another semi-political band that some claim are hypocrites for doing what they’re paid to do despite disagreeable government policies

    • @monsty26
      @monsty26 Год назад +1

      yeah but Radiohead are untouchable even if they did worse things

    • @santicarbajal3927
      @santicarbajal3927 Год назад +1

      ​@@monsty26the d riding is insane in this reply

    • @monsty26
      @monsty26 Год назад

      @@santicarbajal3927 read again and you will understand my sarcasm

  • @SplatterInker
    @SplatterInker 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thing is Matt Bellamy isn't genuinely political. He's into conspiracy theories from the perspective of someone who finds it quite interesting, He's titivated by the dystopian future and the fantasy of the end of the world, but he doesn't actually have anything to say about this world, nor does he want to change it. And when the band felt their angst and were really screaming for the end of the world in that disempowered angst sense that just wants to cut loose and doesn't genuinely want anything really bad to happen to them, that THAT is what made them original. Radiohead with less melancholy and more rage. Less relatability and more DRAMA darling. You take that real feeling away (which let's face it, good for them, its probably healthier that way) and all you're left with is empty bombast.
    I actually adore Origin of Symmetry, it gave me my first taste of something harder. But I could see the cracks on Black Holes and Revalations, and by Resistance there were fewer and fewer things I liked.
    I will say though I've always enjoyed their classical pastiche. The choral work on that one polyphonic song on Drones is delightful.

  • @joshsteelman88
    @joshsteelman88 11 месяцев назад +6

    Im a big muse fan. I've never seen a popular band create their best music after 25 years of existence. Its common knowledge the human brain and creativity starts to decline in your 30's... so if you know this you respect a brilliant band like muse to keep trying to create and innovative new music when there well into their 40s.. so to me muse will never disappointment me.. they put out some of the greatest albums in 2000 to late 2000s and still have the courage and discipline to keep putting out new albums... sorry so long i got a lil sensitive with the topic 😂

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 10 месяцев назад +1

      Naw you’re absolutely right. That was the worst review on any topic I’ve ever seen on RUclips.

    • @danzemacabre8899
      @danzemacabre8899 9 месяцев назад

      I'm kind of a new comer to the band , I heard Knights of Cydonia and immediately became intrigued with their sound a little Queen, A little Iron Maiden a little Rush ,a pinch of the Police and a dose of 80s new wave and 2000s Metal, I completely agree with you and am perplexed by the hate almost there's some kind of agenda maybe due to their political leanings? Idk , honestly it does not matter to me I'm just glad I have this huge catalog to listen to for a band that slipped under the radar for me all these years and I've yet to really hear a truly bad song and loved the new album and kill or be killed has that absolutely brutal piece in the middle and a great solo that was reminiscent of Synyster Gates of A7X, which is a huge compliment , what a band and all three guys are monsters on their instruments and as a big Rush, Maiden, Dream Theater , and Police fan.i appreciate the hell out of that ,no slackers allowed