I went to a studio and bro had a 30 day roll out... somewhere near the end, he had "fake rap beef" written on the to do list for his process. 😂 couldn't believe it.
That's why Cole said what he said in his apology. I knew what he meant especially by the "They want blood" statement. He was more talking about the blood suckers than Hip-hop or bars fans. And once you bring gunplay in your music it ends badly as these past years have shown us, regarding this repeating every couple years cycle of real hip-hop vs vibe music.
I am not shocked. A good number of people like drama. Jay vs Nas, Biggy vs Pac (East Coast vs West Coast), Dipset vs Lox are just to name a popular few. The suits know how to monetize every aspect of the “culture” for their personal gains.
Rick Ross and Drake. They been cool for forever. Now all of the sudden they are going at it?? I don’t believe it for one second. Drake probably texted Ross and told him to say “call me white boy.”
Imagine a rapper calling you up to pretend to beef and when the public thinks their verse was better, they're playing it up. Just gon and stab yaself in the back dawg😂...
This is this very reason why early HipHop artist back in the day screamed about selling out, and the commercialization of the art. They understood where that road would lead. And here we are with A.I, Fake Beefs, Deluxe Albums, auto tune, and every other antic corporate record companies can think of. This Is Not HipHop, but their version of what they think it should look like...
While these artists are "beefing" with each other, the industry will use this to feed listeners more drama and less positivity. I'm not against rap battles but some of this mess feels staged, what happened to just making good music?
Whoever that unnamed rapper was must have already had a diss song for The Baby (and probably a bunch more folks) recorded and ready to be released. I mean think about it, if the Baby would have agreed he coulda went to the studio and dropped something that day, so I'm sure the other, unnamed rapper was already ready already.
lol it might be selling good for the first time in 20 years but it’s no where near selling “well” lol. I love record stores too so I’m not hating I’m just stating facts
I remember the wild day of youtube back in 2013-2018 of few content creators doing fake beefs just to boost their views. Just like 69, I believe most his beefs was for clout chasing, but whenever he stepped out of line it turned real. I can't attest to 90's or 00's rap beef as I was just a youngin but, I would not be surprised to see a lot of these fast-food rappers fake beefs just to juice their numbers from their stale, repetitive, content.
Allow me to substitute the word "diss" with " promote " Da Baby " i think we should promote each other " .... Naww man what you trying to do ? Make money ? 🤔
Everyone must have forgotten about UTFO and the real Roxanne. As well as countless other old school tracks that featured the battle/dissing element sometimes having both emcees in the same song. Its not a bad marketing measure in my opinion as long as it doesn't get taken to the streets
The Roxanne wars began when UTFO missed a scheduled performance, with promoters Marley Marl and Mr. Magic. Feeling dissed, Marly got with 14yr old Roxanne Shante who was a well known battle rapper to hit them up. The Brdge Wars began when the rap group 12:41 (aka Boogie Down Productions) first joint was called wacked by Mr Magic from the Juice Crew. Back then Magic had a hit radio show. His endorsement of a record meant everything. So BPD was out for payback and MC Shan was the target.
@seanthornton726 you are referring to something entirely different. The 'Real' Roxanne and UTFO was a 'fake' beef. That's what this was about. Not real dis tracks
@TeddyRockSteady I'm referring to the actual situation. The Real Roxanne wasn't beef. She took on the persona of fictional character in the UTFO song Roxanne Roxanne.
@seanthornton726 this post we are commenting on is about 'fake beef' the Real Roxanne was a made up answer by Select records to keep the buzz going on a hit record. It was marketing, that's the topic here
How is this any different than the rap battle leagues? Those dudes and women go in and say some downright despicable stuff about each other. Their families, their kids even. Next battle, those same 2 rapper's are on a team together doing a 2v2 battle. Diss tracks don't HAVE to be beef. Even in the "Control" verse from Kendrick, he called out names, gave them props and said "I love you but I'm here to murder you nixxas!" At the time it came out, hip-hop music had gotten flat and stagnant (as it has again). Even elite emcees had cotton complacent. That Control verse was a shock to the system to bring life back to the genre. (I feel like)That's the same thing he did again. It doesn't have to be "I'm only dissing you because I hate you for real". That's bogus and that's actually when violence happens. Because people can't keep it on wax anymore.
Personally, I'm already over it. Everybody all of a sudden beefing and there's no real substance behind it . Dumb petty stuff ... unnecessary bars... There was hope when it was just about Kendrick and drake... And even that became a clown show( on Drake's end)... I'm no longer interested in what either has to say at this point lol
Even though they fake beef 🍖 they're going to spit some Bars 💯 to beat the Next man's Lyrics 🔥. It's like battling with your Friend sharpening their Skills. Like Wild & Out. They're cool with each other but they're going to see who's better, still.
Fake beef is nothing new it's a industry marketing strategy & what's the purpose of bringing up the rapper yet not his name....see how industry plants work he didn't expose nothing this is clickbait
Kurtis, weren't you saying J Cole should have beefed with Kdot and it would just end in wax. What are you saying now about rappers being emotional? Why this change of energy on this video? Weren't you doing for fake beef?
We need to take hip hop back from the corporations. They're planning the profits off us dying over rap beef. All the more reason I respect Cole's decision to bsck away from the Drake circus.
Of all people that the rapper chose to be with they want to try to beef with Mr Kirk this man is really out here living what he says in his songs like he just ignored the whole first year this man was out here literally punching and shooting at people😂
People only look at the artist as an artist instead of looking at each artist as a business. When you look at each artist as a business and understand that when Kdot and Jcole analytics reads in a downward trend there PR and Marketing team have to create strategies to increase their revenue. Often the things that happen in Hollywood are planned and staged kind of like House wives of Pick a City 😂! The PA will fill up cups of drinks and stage them all over the room (scene) so that the ladies can grab a drink from any angle and throw it on someone, Rap beef and other drama in Hollywood can be like the WWE, just to increase their revenue. The major of the problem can be when someone from their crew didn't get them memo and actually takes things seriously, that said there are instances when it'🎉s real beef but it's not the same as Rollout Beef, a lot of it is staged behind the senses and we keep paying for it. Gets us every time, to me it would have made sense just to call it a competition sense that's what it is anyway. They don't understand that people in the streets or in Barber shops could really be beefing frfr over this fake beef. I heard a few fellas knuckle up over a LeBron and Curry beef. 😅
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Guys we’ve known this shit is fake, hip hop lowkey dying so they had to make it interesting
Fake beef doesn't sound appetizing.
that’s a bar
I went to a studio and bro had a 30 day roll out... somewhere near the end, he had "fake rap beef" written on the to do list for his process. 😂 couldn't believe it.
Gotta get back in the kitchen just redirect the cooking.
Plant based beef
Yet people still eat it up.
" What about the casualties of yall playing" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 got me rolling
That's why Cole said what he said in his apology. I knew what he meant especially by the "They want blood" statement. He was more talking about the blood suckers than Hip-hop or bars fans. And once you bring gunplay in your music it ends badly as these past years have shown us, regarding this repeating every couple years cycle of real hip-hop vs vibe music.
Your on to something
I am not shocked. A good number of people like drama. Jay vs Nas, Biggy vs Pac (East Coast vs West Coast), Dipset vs Lox are just to name a popular few. The suits know how to monetize every aspect of the “culture” for their personal gains.
Rick Ross and Drake. They been cool for forever. Now all of the sudden they are going at it?? I don’t believe it for one second. Drake probably texted Ross and told him to say “call me white boy.”
It's fake until it's real......
Imagine a rapper calling you up to pretend to beef and when the public thinks their verse was better, they're playing it up. Just gon and stab yaself in the back dawg😂...
I feel like this is a huge disrespect to Afeni Shakur, Voletta Wallace and all the loved ones left behind by this type of shit.
Divide and conquer is a real tactic in the industry and in real life. They know how to generate revenue.
And influence.
This is this very reason why early HipHop artist back in the day screamed about selling out, and the commercialization of the art. They understood where that road would lead. And here we are with A.I, Fake Beefs, Deluxe Albums, auto tune, and every other antic corporate record companies can think of. This Is Not HipHop, but their version of what they think it should look like...
While these artists are "beefing" with each other, the industry will use this to feed listeners more drama and less positivity. I'm not against rap battles but some of this mess feels staged, what happened to just making good music?
Whoever that unnamed rapper was must have already had a diss song for The Baby (and probably a bunch more folks) recorded and ready to be released. I mean think about it, if the Baby would have agreed he coulda went to the studio and dropped something that day, so I'm sure the other, unnamed rapper was already ready already.
Beenie man & bounty killer employed this strategy their whole career. Made a ton of money 💰 doing this
I love your style of telling us what you find in your research! One of the reasons I come on this platform!
The music industry acually has been creating fake beefs and real sacrafices for Hundreds of years ...
This a Joyner Lucas type tactic
Always hoping for your success bro! 🎉
I love it 😂 I disssed Gucci mane for stealing my dam no Diddy song 😅😂😂
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Yo Loza you murder the original no Diddy song your talent underrated fam I fcks wit ya
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If you dont know vinyl is selling well you haven't been paying attention!
lol it might be selling good for the first time in 20 years but it’s no where near selling “well” lol. I love record stores too so I’m not hating I’m just stating facts
@@steelokey selling well and selling good are the same thing 🤦♂️
@@nickgoodlock263 did you even read my comment or try to understand it? 😃
Its good promo until it turn violent thin line
Well... it's all for entertainment. Who's the best lyricist.
Thanks for the expert commentary as usual. 💯
I remember the wild day of youtube back in 2013-2018 of few content creators doing fake beefs just to boost their views. Just like 69, I believe most his beefs was for clout chasing, but whenever he stepped out of line it turned real. I can't attest to 90's or 00's rap beef as I was just a youngin but, I would not be surprised to see a lot of these fast-food rappers fake beefs just to juice their numbers from their stale, repetitive, content.
R.I.P. Chris King
Shows how far rap has fallen when rappers are faking beefs for attention
makin up sum fake rap beef is the most rupaul bullshit i ever heard of in my life, grown men shouldn't even think like that... super pathetic
This been happening for years.
This happened with Pac and Big
Nas and Jay
Allow me to substitute the word "diss" with " promote " Da Baby " i think we should promote each other " ....
Naww man what you trying to do ? Make money ? 🤔
Everyone must have forgotten about UTFO and the real Roxanne. As well as countless other old school tracks that featured the battle/dissing element sometimes having both emcees in the same song. Its not a bad marketing measure in my opinion as long as it doesn't get taken to the streets
The Roxanne wars began when UTFO missed a scheduled performance, with promoters Marley Marl and Mr. Magic. Feeling dissed, Marly got with 14yr old Roxanne Shante who was a well known battle rapper to hit them up. The Brdge Wars began when the rap group 12:41 (aka Boogie Down Productions) first joint was called wacked by Mr Magic from the Juice Crew. Back then Magic had a hit radio show. His endorsement of a record meant everything. So BPD was out for payback and MC Shan was the target.
@seanthornton726 you are referring to something entirely different. The 'Real' Roxanne and UTFO was a 'fake' beef. That's what this was about. Not real dis tracks
@TeddyRockSteady I'm referring to the actual situation. The Real Roxanne wasn't beef. She took on the persona of fictional character in the UTFO song Roxanne Roxanne.
@seanthornton726 this post we are commenting on is about 'fake beef' the Real Roxanne was a made up answer by Select records to keep the buzz going on a hit record. It was marketing, that's the topic here
Fake beef is the wrong move, honest sparring between lyricist I'm not against it
How is this any different than the rap battle leagues? Those dudes and women go in and say some downright despicable stuff about each other. Their families, their kids even. Next battle, those same 2 rapper's are on a team together doing a 2v2 battle. Diss tracks don't HAVE to be beef. Even in the "Control" verse from Kendrick, he called out names, gave them props and said "I love you but I'm here to murder you nixxas!" At the time it came out, hip-hop music had gotten flat and stagnant (as it has again). Even elite emcees had cotton complacent. That Control verse was a shock to the system to bring life back to the genre. (I feel like)That's the same thing he did again. It doesn't have to be "I'm only dissing you because I hate you for real". That's bogus and that's actually when violence happens. Because people can't keep it on wax anymore.
You said Da Baby IA not known as a lyrist wow did you bite your tongue or jaw when u said that Kirk
Fake beef is like boxing y'all it's not street beef smh
Personally, I'm already over it. Everybody all of a sudden beefing and there's no real substance behind it . Dumb petty stuff ... unnecessary bars... There was hope when it was just about Kendrick and drake... And even that became a clown show( on Drake's end)... I'm no longer interested in what either has to say at this point lol
lol, right.
The labels at the end wining both artists got the same boss
On top of that trickin at an all time high goodnight
Even though they fake beef 🍖 they're going to spit some Bars 💯 to beat the Next man's Lyrics 🔥. It's like battling with your Friend sharpening their Skills. Like Wild & Out. They're cool with each other but they're going to see who's better, still.
Can anyone tell me what that background beat is towards the end of the video ? Or what “type beat “ it’s called from 16:25 - 17:30?
Fake beef is nothing new fr people in the streets know what’s up fr it’s all about the money
Fake beef is nothing new it's a industry marketing strategy & what's the purpose of bringing up the rapper yet not his name....see how industry plants work he didn't expose nothing this is clickbait
rap beef is real enough for the music, dont need to be more real than that.
Plant based rap beef
i think a lot of it’s fake but i’m 99% sure kenny hates drake fr. you don’t call someone a pdf if it’s friendly
Naaa some of these beefs do happen an sometimes it goes too far
DaBaby smart for this in case that person does decide to diss him for this, he's already ready he just aint wanna come too hard at a "friend"..
Lil wayné or the game probably the game
Figured they was faking it, the music industry is dying
Kurtis, weren't you saying J Cole should have beefed with Kdot and it would just end in wax. What are you saying now about rappers being emotional? Why this change of energy on this video? Weren't you doing for fake beef?
The game is rigged
A lady from the UK said the rap scene in the UK is not good because nobody is beefing.😂🤡
We need to take hip hop back from the corporations. They're planning the profits off us dying over rap beef. All the more reason I respect Cole's decision to bsck away from the Drake circus.
Of all people that the rapper chose to be with they want to try to beef with Mr Kirk this man is really out here living what he says in his songs like he just ignored the whole first year this man was out here literally punching and shooting at people😂
People only look at the artist as an artist instead of looking at each artist as a business. When you look at each artist as a business and understand that when Kdot and Jcole analytics reads in a downward trend there PR and Marketing team have to create strategies to increase their revenue. Often the things that happen in Hollywood are planned and staged kind of like House wives of Pick a City 😂! The PA will fill up cups of drinks and stage them all over the room (scene) so that the ladies can grab a drink from any angle and throw it on someone, Rap beef and other drama in Hollywood can be like the WWE, just to increase their revenue. The major of the problem can be when someone from their crew didn't get them memo and actually takes things seriously, that said there are instances when it'🎉s real beef but it's not the same as Rollout Beef, a lot of it is staged behind the senses and we keep paying for it. Gets us every time, to me it would have made sense just to call it a competition sense that's what it is anyway. They don't understand that people in the streets or in Barber shops could really be beefing frfr over this fake beef. I heard a few fellas knuckle up over a LeBron and Curry beef. 😅
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Its not new its entertainment suge and diddy were having dinner meeting during the so called beef
The great distraction....
What's Cooking 🎉
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What if it was Lil Baby? 🤔
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New rapper battles talk toomuch gunplay then it happens smh
Yuck
you rate
Remember juicy j said rap sales were down 40 percent well if the biggest rappers start beefing people will buy everything to hear what's said
if we dont be careful this beef shit could turn into another big and pac
In regard to Taylor Swift, for someone who supposedly has over 284 million followers on IG, 2 million sales is a failure
He knows. Him and cam had fake beef
Did you hear about scarface and his dissatisfaction with All streaming Platforms
First🙆🏽♂️
This ruins all of the beefs for me now. I’m done with all this nonsense it’s not fun anymore it’s just goofy.