Have you used tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis? Share your experience in a comment below. Save yourself 10% on the most potent tongkat ali using the coupon code: LoseFatGetJacked10 when you visit this link lddy.no/1c2jh This is the tongkat ali I've been using for the past year.
So far the last near 3 weeks on Solaray Tongkat ali 400mg 1 per day 2 days off on the weekend. Changes libido 100% "on the days being used only". Grip strength increased with 140lb captain of crush hand gripper from 8-12 to15 reps first set and 20 2nd set by day 18. I did not expect any gains in the gym only for libido. I only do 4 sets of grip strength sets with 140lbs per week so this was the only evident change. Mid 40's and trying anything natural I can, I don't want to do TRT again gel 7-10mg per day due to the 12th day palpitations hit "high red blood cell count" goes away a day or two after stopping. Tongkat ali definitely boosts libido more than TRT Gel for me. Not to mention trt bricks DHEA-S levels into the 1's... I was taking DHEA 10mg every other day and it pushes my DHEA-S levels into the 8's to and to 16's if I take 20mg. Thank you for your video!
@@losefatgetjacked hello I am French, Tongkat ali is less followed than at home. I would like to ask you a question: I have consumed Tongkat ali from two suppliers in France and that it is the 100:1 extract and the other Tongkat in root powder gives me the effect of a sleeping pill, it puts me to sleep! I increased the quantities and it's the same! awakening is normal. my testosterone level is now 892.33 ng / dl unfortunately I did these tests while I regularly consume Tongkat ali, zinc, Ashwagandha. Why do you think I have this reaction with Tongkat ali? yet I have the impression that I lack testosterone thank you for your answer
I'm taking just Fadogia Agrestis for about 3-4 weeks now, @ ~600mg/day taken all at once in the mornings, and while I have not seen a *huge* libido increase, I have absolutely seen all the usual indicators of a significant testosterone boost. After about the first week I started to feel more solid, and now I'm cutting pretty well. It seems to be pulling me out of a sedentary lifestyle.
How long did it take before you gelt anything? My testosterone was naturally at 600ng but i started taking fadogia and tongkat ali at 500 and 600mg and i dont think i feel anything yet.
I was using Creatine and then jumped on both, after a few days I decided to drop the Creatine to make sure it’s working. Not only did I not lose strength, but I got stronger. My muscles (chest in particular) feel way fuller.
Did you ever end up getting back on creatine? I’d think you could stack creatine on top of fadogia and tongkat to get the most benefits. Asking because I just started this exact protocol, really hoping to see some results.
@@hegemonious unfortunately I developed stomach issues with the tongkat and fadosia. As time went on it got worse so I had to drop it. But they both worked, if your stomach can handle it I highly recommend them. I did go back on the creatine later since I couldn’t keep taking them.
Tongkat Ali has worked for me during my cutting phases to help keep test levels steady when reducing bodyfat. I would recommend to increase dosage steady thru your cycle plus use it on a every 5day on and 2 day off during the week to help it better bind with body receptors -uptake process. After 10-12 weeks I stop for about 3-4 weeks and start again if I am still in a fat reducing phase. I typically do not take it when I am in a calorie surplus phase.
Morning: ~1000mg Fenugreek ~1000mg Fedogia Agrestis w/ breakfast Noon: ~1000mg Tongkat Ali w/ lunch Definitely seeing muscle mass and strength increase with this protocol after a little over a month of trying it.
I am over 50 with naturally high testosterone and started with the Tonkat Ali for 6 weeks and then added fadogia there was a little bump with the tonkat but a huge wave when I added the fadogia. First time I tried any supplement other than whey powder 20 years ago
Thanks a million for sharing your positive experience with both tongkat ali and the addition of fadogia agrestis. I'm so glad to hear this. Keep up the great work man.
I’m waiting for my Fadogia to arrive. Are you taking it every day or alternate days. I am currently on Tongkat Ali and noticed some small benefits in terms of energy and muscle recovery. Btw I agree with you about CBC 🤣
I’ve been taking Fedogia agrestis, tongkat ali, DIM and turkesterone for a few months. My T went from 516 to 754 in the first 30 days. In the 2nd month I started gaining weight. I was 164 (I’m 6”2’) at 11% body fat. Today I weighed in at 182.9. Mostly gained in my glutes, not much if any fat gain that I can tell. My skin seems fuller and tighter than before. I’m cycling off for a month to see what happens. Interested in adding boron based on comments here. Update one year later: I've since added 1 cup of organic Lifeway Kefir and 15mg Boron supplements to my daily routine. I can say 100% that Kefir does make your balls bigger Lol. I have backed off using Tongkat Ali and Fedogia to 1 week per month. I am also drinking 1 - 12 oz. glass of Beet Root and 2.5 mg Cialis every day. I need to get my T tested soon but adding the cialis has been a game changer. I’ve definitely bulked up and my libido improved significantly.
@@losefatgetjacked I’d say 60% is bulk muscle. I’m bigger all over but not much in the waste. I’ve been doing power yoga for 2 years 4x /week and just started stations classes. I forgot to mention I am taking 50mg zinc and 500mg magnesium daily as well
That's a great video mate. Couple of things we need to be aware of: once we flood the body with any form of anabolic testosterone, the body starts ramping down its own T production resulting in a marked decrease in testicular volume. Secondly, we need to cycle on and off these supplements as its the free-T (not the total T) that we want to increase. Most T is either SHBG or Albumin bound and when the body detects too much free-T in blood (and that is very common in men above 40 as our overall physical activity compared to a 20 year old kid is generally low) it goes into homeostasis and increases SHBG prod resulting in diminishing returns over time.
Thanks for sharing your insights! I wouldn't say these supplements or any supplement flood the body with anabolic testosterone. It only causes a subtle increase in testosterone. But you're right about the body compensating and a need to cycle. It's interesting that you say free testosterone increases as we age. I've seen the exact opposite in all of my clients who get regular blood work done. I've been taking boron for a few months as it supposedly reduces SHBG, which may increase free testosterone. I'll be interested to see the results of my next blood work. Again, Thanks for sharing your insights. Much appreciated.
wow, great job, outstanding content, i'm 60 +++, multiple health degrees, decades of actual high level clinical experience, I'm still lean and muscled at 10% BF, yours is one of the very few health related videos that I've ever watched that I would recommend to others !
I actually just started tongkat ali today. I'm also doing creatine , ZMA, and vitamin d. I'm hoping all of this plus eating quality foods and lifting weights 4 to 5 days a week will give me sone results after awhile. Definitely not expecting miracles lol.
I had been plataued for 2 years at about 210, but I benched 2x a week for 3 months and ended up benching 225 x 10. Was only on creatine. Good sleep and nutrition as well but yeah. If your hitting the gym right, and sleeping and eating well, you'll see results. Just stay consistent.
@@duskyracer8800 Outstanding brother! That's great to hear. Well done with that progress. My lifestyle couldn't be more consistent with quality sleep, nutrition, and stress management. Strength gains have been halted for years. As expected for someone who's been lifting for over 30 years. But just recently my strength gains have gone up with the addition of some of these supplements. It may be a placebo effect, which would be even more fascinating than if it was the actual supplements themselves.
I have been taking the same brand of tongkat as in this video. I am 40yrs old, one month in, I agree with midnight and breakfast boners and increased strength and focus in the gym. I am happy with the product for sure.
I have been using them 2 test boosters on & off for about 5 months, & i honestly seen some major improvements with my workouts, & my body. Only problem now is that i don't really go to the gym anymore due to injuring myself at the gym again. I went to the doctor about my tendinitis in my right arm, & he told me just to rest it, but it still hasn't gone away, so i have been doing more leg workouts instead of upper body stuff. Now i have injured my left groin area, as i herd a pop noise when doing split squats, so now i am injured in that area. I started exercising when i was 12 years old & i am feeling sad now because i am losing all my gains, & it also helped me mentally. I don't know if i will ever come good again, but i guess for now i will just have to keep seeing a doctor to hopefully get fixed up 🙏. I hope you & many others like yourself don't go through what i am going through at the moment. Stay fit & strong Scott. 👍💯💪
Oh man Damien. I'm sorry to hear about the challenges you have been facing. I appreciate you sharing them with us. It's incredibly difficult when one of the things that brings great joy to our lives gets pulled away from us. One thing is certain, you likely won't take it for granted when you return to the gym. Where are you feeling the tendonitis pain around the elbow? Is it the inside of your arm?Have you checked out any videos to help relieve elbow pain? When did you injure your groin? That can take a while to fully heal, but hopefully you'll be able to do some leg exercises soon.
I'm so glad to hear that you're already experiencing positive results. Please keep us posted on how your body continues to respond during the upcoming weeks. Thanks a million for sharing.
As a middle aged woman who has done resistance training most of my life and being a runner, I can say the following: I have been using Tongkat Ali for a year and buildt a lot of muscle mass.. I just started using the combination of Fodagio and Tongkat Ali. I experienced insane energy levels. I could not stop running! After my endurance run this morning, I started sprinting, then my resistance training and then MORE sprinting! I spent 2 hours in the gym, but felt invincible 😂
Well reviewed, thx. Just two days ago I started supplement the Tongat Ali and my gym performance already better. I mean more strength. Let's see how it goes. Cheers
clinical test made on white tongkat ali, not black or red. Im malaysian, here we boil the root and drink it, believe me tongkat ali is very effective in improving. the price of the root is only 10 dollars for 500 grams and it lasts up to 3-4 months, supliments are very expensive. I use the traditional
I'm taking those very same products right now. About 3 weeks in. Plan is to cycle off after 8 weeks. My starting t was 215. I will check again at 8 weeks. As well as my liver. I'm coming from 8 years of being fat and lazy and very sedentary. I do believe it's working as I don't dread the gym now and I feel a little better overall. So hard to tell what is what because I'm down 45 lbs in 12 weeks with time restricted eating and getting rid of mountain dew and tobacco.
Congratulations on your success and lifestyle changes the past 12 weeks my brother. That is freak'n outstanding and inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing. Please keep me up to date on how you continue to respond to the tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis. Keep up the great work!
Trying the Sigma supplement. One of my concerns is libido, “volume” and mental clarity motivation. So that’s basically the goal but if it moves my actual numbers up that’s great too.
@@amitrana6489 energy is up and it helped lower anxiety, sleeping better as well. I don’t find myself overeating as much either. So far it’s been subtle improvements. Will soon be taking a week off.
@@losefatgetjacked yes I like this one but I may try something new for experimental reasons. I am noticing a difference in my workouts. I mostly do a more intense version of yoga with squats and dynamic push-ups and I can definitely notice I can do it for longer and I’ve been able to do more of the push-ups and squats without the feeling of my muscles exploding lol
I'm still taking tongkat ali. This is the one I use lddy.no/1c2jh I stopped using fadogia agrestis after this 2 month experiment and have since been using cistanche instead lddy.no/1jpb8
@@losefatgetjacked Thanks for the feedback. Was there any negative effects you noticed from the Fadogia Agrestis or just wanted to try something different?
Great video I have been really focused on health and optimization of my blood biomarkers. My Testosterone before taking Tongkat Ali was 300+, after 500+. I ran out of Tongkat Ali and my next test was back to 300+. So I am back on Tongkat ali. I was taking Fadogia here and there, but I am thinking I will stop taking. You made comments about your thyroid. Are you taking Iodine?
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing your experience and blood work results. I haven't taken fadogia agrestis since this 2 month experiment, but have continued with tongkat ali. I'm not taking iodine. My thyroid function is great. My naturopath had me do more detailed blood work to make sure I was converting T4 to T3 efficiently and it's all good.
I forgot to add Boron 5mg (more usable Testosterone, converts to Free Testosterone, lowers SHBG) my Free T went up from 10 to 12 DIM (blocks conversion from T to E)
That's outstanding! I've been taking boron for the past 4 months and look forward to getting my blood work done soon to see if it had an impact on my free testosterone.
Great video … If you are looking for the next supplement to take , please try Boron … I’m doing about 6 mg per day … 3 in morning and 3 in afternoon and can feel the difference immediately… Give it a try
Thanks for the positive feedback and for the recommendation. I used 9-12mg of boron for 3 months earlier this year and didn't notice a difference. It doesn't mean that it didn't work for me. Some positive benefits may have shown up in my blood work, but I didn't feel a difference. Boron was also in a few of the testosterone boosters I took this year. Seems to be common in an effort to increase free testosterone by reducing SHBG, but we really know little about it or even if reducing SHBG is actually a good thing.
The fadogia agrestis worked great for me. Killing it in the gym, big gains, and libido: am 43, high sex drive, but my morning wood had disappeared. Fadogia brought it back. Shooting bigger loads, too. Sex has been the best. Now adding in tongkat ali... 2 days in, will see how it goes.
Tested for 644 testosterone and 119 for free test. Not bad numbers but wanna see how I feel after 6 months of tongkat. Will test after again and post results
Hey Coach, im 26 and i go to the gym 6 times a week and do about 50% cardio 50% muscle training as ive been trying to shred. Ive went from 175 to 158lbs but i dont see enough muscle. I want to get Leaner now and im thinking about trying these products out. Is it okay to stack these with preworkout/Creatine before gym? Will i see a increase in Muscle Mass or moreso weight loss? Any input is really appreciate it thank you coach!
It’s always going to be REALLY tough to build muscle when in a calorie deficit. If you gain any, it will be minimal. Stay focused on losing fat and then dedicate yourself to a lengthy muscle building phase where you remain in a gentle calorie surplus. These supplements have the potential to increase your testosterone a bit and your strength, which can help indirectly build muscle, because you’re able to lift more.
I started doing TRT a long time ago. I began injecting myself and was taking a shot every week for many years. I thought I'd eventually get used to it and it'd be just like any other thing in my week. But man I gotta tell you, it's one of those things I just couldn't get used to. It was always that feeling I'd get the day before I knew I'd have to inject myself and I HATED it. I hated it so badly that a few months ago I said to hell with it, I'm done having a moment every week that I absolutely hate. I've been looking for a natural way to move forward, I'll give this a shot.
That would be my concern as well. I don't do well with needles. Unfortunately, this supplement combo although great, is nothing compared to the effect of TRT. Still, I look forward to hearing your experience in using them. I'd love to hear your feedback after a couple months.
@@losefatgetjacked it's funny. I'm not afraid of needles. The part where you inject it into your shoulder you don't even feel (I learned how to make that part completely painless). What they don't tell you is that Testosterone is an oil. So it comes out of that needle slowly if you inject it into your shoulder like I did. So its like you're awkwardly trying to push the back of the shot in as fast as possible, but it comes out slowly. So over time it's the injection of the testosterone itself that hurts never the needle.
Thank you for your excellent video . I just starting using Tongat Ali and Fadogia and results are amazing. I just wondering do you still using other supplements like magnesium, zink and D vitamins?
I'm so glad to hear that you have been experiencing positive benefits from this combo. Yes, I'm still using those other supplements and will do an update on my current supplement stack next week.
Yes, as far as I'm aware, combining those 3 supplements should be fine. But as I mentioned in the video, research is limited on fadogia agrestis, so we don't really know.
I recommend in the morning but it doesn't really matter too much. It just depends on how you respond. I tend to feel more energized, which is why I take it early. Some have mentioned it has a calming effect on them, so they take it later.
@topfitness2335 really good questions that I unfortunately don't have the answers to. There isn't much research on fadogia agrestis, which makes it very difficult to prescribe timing, dosing, cycling, etc.
I usually take them first thing in the morning with my breakfast, but it really doesn't matter. As for how much, it depends on the quality. The brand of tongkat ali I use is potent and you only need 100g. As for fadogia agrestis, we don't have a lot of research on it, so I'd go by what the label recommends.
insightful video. 2 questions: 1) outside of libido, does the combination have injury/recovery benefits? 2) Where is the best outlet for Canadians to order these products? I cannot find either in any local supplement stores.
I'm not aware of any research on injury/recovery benefits of this combo. I initially got my tongkat from iherb.ca online. Now I use this, which I get shipped from the US lddy.no/1c2jh
First of all looking good brother great physique. Ive been taking both with creatine and universal sterols for around 5 weeks. Ive had to come off the stuff as i have been making gains with very little effort. I have spots on my back and my testes have definately increased in size. I will go back on them when my back clears up as its horrific, definately doing something to my hormones as ive been behaving more like i was in my teens😬
It definitely seems like a legit supplement to experiment with. I used 9-12mg for 3 months and didn't "feel" or notice a difference, but I also didn't get my blood work done to see if my free testosterone went up. I'll try it for several months leading up to my next blood test to see if there's an impact.
My testosterone was 531 and then I took Tongkat and Fadogia for just one week before blood work and it jumped to 726. I felt anxiety and was having insomnia and sometimes a dull headache but then I just felt concern that I might be messing up my hormonal balance and stopped the Fadogio and just take the Tongkat 5 days a week. Unfortunately I should have had a complete hormonal profile, Free Testosterone and Estrogen etc but did not. I asked my doctor if we could have that done and he would not comply. I did not notice any increase in strength during exercise. Keep hearing different thoughts and warnings about taking these supplements and so I feel uneasy about it without the proper monitoring. It's very difficult I've found to get a physician to comply when it comes to these things. By the way, I am 64. f
Thanks a million for sharing your experience and insights. I totally agree that it can be very difficult to find doctors who are very proactive our health measures in this regard. It's a shame, because we are trying our best to keep ourselves healthy so we don't become a burden on the medical system in our later years, yet we get brushed off. I stopped with the fadogia agrestis after this 2 month trial and am going to hold off until further research is conducted on it. I have however continued with tongkat ali and combine it with cistanche now. Cycling on and off to maintain it's effectiveness. I haven't experienced any negative side effects myself, but sure appreciate you sharing yours, as it can very well help others in deciding whether they want to give it a try or if they do try it and start experiencing similar side effects they will know they aren't alone.
@@losefatgetjacked I thought that maybe if I stayed on the Fadogia that the side effects might subside but decided to put off using it for now. What is your cycling routine ? Have to say you look great ! Muscularity to envy ! Keep up the good work !
@@losefatgetjacked Thanks for your response ! As I said, I discontinued the Fadogia (for now) after about 10 days but continue to take the Tongkat 5 days on and two days off. I will also stop for 2 weeks after 8. I'm scheduled for the additional blood work in October for a complete hormonal profile including free testosterone and will let you know then what the results are with just taking the Tongkat. Liver and kidney function was fine several weeks ago. After stopping the Fadogia all side effects were gone as well after two or three days.
Hello I just started following you I'm 56 and have been working out for a hour every morning I have been taking shilagit 600 daily I watched the pod cast with Rogan about fadogia and tongkat then found your videos I then daw your blood work update can I take shilagit and tongkat together it doesn't sound like you recommend fadogia any more and advice on what I'm doing would be great also do you have on line coaching hope you get back to me thanks Shawn
I've been using cistanche with tongkat ali instead of fadogia agrestis and LOVE it! The cistanche product I use actually has shilajit in it lddy.no/1jdl1 and yes, I offer online coaching www.losefatgetjacked.com/coaching
Here's where I got the fadogia agrestis barlowesherbalelixirs.com/fadogia-agrestis-extract and here's where I got the tongkat ali ca.iherb.com/pr/solaray-tongkat-ali-400-mg-60-vegcaps/99983 When I start taking it again I'll be getting the tongkat ali from here lddy.no/1c2jh
I see people say don’t take it if your young but I just bought one that has both Tongkat Ali and fadogia agrestis it’s been 3 days on it and I feel better in my mood and to get things done faster my workouts feel good but I wonder if it’s bad to be on this at a young age because I see people usually older doing it like I don’t wanna get off and loose everything I gained anyone reading this let me know I’m 21 btw and I don’t have any health problems but I wanted a better sex drive like I don’t wake up with morning wood everyday like I used to when I was 14-17 you know I’m tryna get that back lol and I dont master bait or watch corn either but I had a bad problem with that when I was younger and feel like that dropped my testosterone levels but I haven’t in my life tested my bloodwork to see if I’m even low or high or in the middle
I really appreciate you sharing this. It's not that it's bad for younger guys to take this, it's just that they don't usually need it. It can increase your testosterone a bit, like it did mine, but not enough to pack on muscle. But enough to improve your mood, energy, performance, and libido. If your sex drive is down, it's not always because of low testosterone. It can also be psychological. Having one episode of performance anxiety can get in your head and lead to more experiences afterwards. Just something to consider as well.
@@losefatgetjacked thank you ! I asked I might of replied to your other answer you gave me on my other comment cause I just seen this one you answered also but I appreciate you for answering all my questions
This is very useful! I am 48 and I am seriously considering Testosterone and HGH therapy but perhaps I will try these options first. Can you let me know what you usually test for when you do your blood tests? Testosterone levels and what else? - free test?? I don’t think my regular blood test shows this so I have to ask the doc specifically for these
What symptoms have you considering Testosterone and HGH therapy? How's your sleep, stress, and diet? I get total testosterone, free testosterone, prolactin, thyroid to make sure I'm converting T4 to T3 well, among other health markers.
@@losefatgetjacked I have been losing muscle for the past 10 years my family keeps asking me if I’ve lost weight every time we meet (even though the weight is the same). I work out and I feel no progress whatsoever, I am not doing that great down below 😅 so I suspect that testosterone it might be low. I’ve done my blood test recently and it came out good but I do not think it included testosterone
@@losefatgetjacked I forgot to tell you that I went back to the doctor to get the testosterone test and as I suspected the test came back very low - 251 ng/dl. I am currently taking Tongkat Ali - been taking it for about 2 weeks and I do notice better energy. I also ordered Fadogia but it has not arrived yet
@@chriscruciat2469 I'm glad to hear that you are experiencing an increase in energy from tongkat ali. I definitely notice an increase in that myself. Have you been dialling in your lifestyle? Sleep and diet?
@@RoTelnCheese not yet. I started taking Tongkat Ali and Fadogia like a month ago so I want to finish the treatment and then test again probably early March
@@losefatgetjacked I will do. If I don’t start noticing anything after 3 weeks, I will switch out the Fadogia Agrestis from EVL Nutrition, to the one from Double Wood. I’ll let you know if I do.
@@losefatgetjacked Will do. My stack is Solaray Tong Kat and EVL Nutrition Fadogia Agrestis. I have a bottle of Fadogia from DoubleWood, in case the one from EVL Nutrition doesn’t work after 3 weeks. I’ll keep you posted.
I've been bald for over 20 years, so I can't speak about that side effect. My heart health however, has been top notch. With that being said, it's great to see you being proactive before taking a supplement. If you're concerned about any potential risks, I wouldn't take the supplement. Instead, focus on continuing to improve upon your lifestyle.
Awesome vlog bro! The SIGMA that you mentioned is by Naughty Boy here in the UK. It got released March of this year. I tried it and the libido kicked in on the second day!!! Although the company said that 8 weeks was a recommended cycle, I found three weeks was maximum for me and I came off it after that. I noticed that I was permanently in a happy mood/constantly feeling positive. The side effect that worried me was the constant ache in my testicles throughout. It also increased the size of them. I did at that time suffer bad lower back pain which I blamed on sitting in the office but strangely I don't suffer any lower back pain now - could this be strain on my kidney at the time as I was also on Ghetto Gear which was Turkesterone and Ecdysterone - Although having used this 6 weeks prior, I believe that this had very little/zero gains/result for me. I'm hoping to try Sigma & Tongkat Ali together in October and December (four weeks on, four weeks off during a super clean winter bulk/heavy natural bodybuilding winter routine ready for competing again next March-May :)
It's great to hear that you experienced positive benefits, but man, aching testicles would concern me. I've heard that some guys experienced this from fadogia agrestis, but it didn't happen when I took it. And just hearing about this concern was enough for me to swap out fadogia agrestis for cistanche after my 2 month experiment.
@@losefatgetjacked Oh wow that is interesting as I was planning on another cycle. I may just try Tongkat Ali for four weeks instead. Certainly for me, three weeks was the maximum for the SIGMA. It is a highly concentrated brand. The positive moods were totally awesome though. Maybe for me two weeks on, two weeks off.
Simple question. Did you Take from both supplements 1 capsule at the same time, or one a day separately? Your video is very informative. I just didn't understand the dosage.. Greetings from Greece
@@digigamezone2744 for these 2 months I got the tongkat ali from iHerb.ca and fadogia agrestis from Barlowe's Herbal Elixers. Since then I've been getting tongkat ali here lddy.no/1c2jh
That brand of Tongkat you have only had 400mg of dried root. From my understanding you need 20-30g of dried root to have any effect. Meaning you would need a 100:1 bottle. What are your thoughts on the Solaray brand being only 400mg fried root?
hmmm... that's the first I've heard that. I initially went with that brand for this two month experiment, because I heard about it on Andrew Huberman's podcast. I've since been using this brand, which is the most potent I've come across lddy.no/1c2jh
I take 300 Tongkat and 200 fadosia and I cycle 2 weeks on 5 days off and it's super benneficial.. my workouts are awesome. My energy and mood are improved
@@markbalogh9655 I still got em. And I'll be real with u the kind of compared to the lifestyle I used to live a low dose of an herbal supplement is being kind to them. But I haven't noticed any real issues. And I'm pretty strict about cycling off to give my body time to naturally function.
@@markdavis7853 hah I understand i say the same thing to myself like oh I better be careful with this herb it can be hard on the liver or kidney than I have to remind myself these are ancient plant medicines our ancestors used and I put much worse through my body
The reason people are taking both at the same time is likely because of the Andrew Huberman podcast where he mentioned the benefits of the combination of them.
Been reading about the nootropics brand on Amazon half of the men is saying it hurts their stomach even after eating food and if you don't eat food and take it will make you extremely nauseous.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's fascinating how for some people it makes them sleep and others it hinders their sleep. We all respond different to everything. Listen to your body and do what's in it's best interest.
@@erics2860 How can you insult someone that you don’t even know. My hygiene is fine. I’m not going to explain how many time a week I shower or brush my teeth. Maybe you should look at yourself since your so concerned with Hygiene.
I’m still using tongkat ali, but instead of fadogia I’ve been using cistanche. I take it for 5 days on 2 days off. I also take a week or two off every 10 weeks or so.
How do you Cycle these together? Do you take it continuously or take some time off? I usually hit the gym about 5 days a week. Do you take it only on gym days? Thanks in advance.
I only took fadogia agrestis with tongkat ali for 2 months during this experiment. I've since been taking cistanche with tongkat ali until more research is done on fadogia. I take it 5 days on 2 days off for 6-8 weeks, then take 1-2 weeks off so my body doesn't adapt to it and it maintains it's effectiveness.
Awesome! Where are you training now? I bought that two month supply of tongkat ali from iherb.ca and the fadogia agrestis from Barlowe's Herbal Elixers. Since then I've been getting this tongkat ali lddy.no/1c2jh
They have been shown to help and may be worth a try. Of course, focusing on improving your overall lifestyle should always be your first priority. Making sure you are getting an adequate amount of sleep is always number one and consuming nutrient rich foods to fuel your lifestyle. Have you had your blood work checked to see if you are low or deficient in any vitamin or mineral?
That’s very telling, thanks for that. Did you by chance get your before/after test levels checked at the same time of day, after doing roughly the same activity? If so then your experience is all the more meaningful. You’re prob already aware thar Test levels typically vary dramatically over the course of a given day, and before/after a workout. So if you tested at the same time of day and after abt the same activity level both I think your experience carries a lot of weight.
@@somebb I really appreciate this share. It’s important to take in all of the different experiences to help make an informed decision about whether or not it’s worth experimenting with ourselves. I fasted for 14 hours before my test. I always get it done at 7am and my lifestyle is the same. I definitely experienced a libido boost during the first week and didn’t expect to see my testosterone increase. So that was a pleasant surprise
*I found this video while trying to do some result on nature test boosters. Id like to try these out and see will they help me . besides working out , sleep and proper diet . is there any of major factors I should implement with these supplements ?*
Please let me know what your experience is after taking the supplements for a couple months. Other than the big 3 you listed, managing stress is really helpful
Tongkat Ali reminds me of that AC/DC song… "I've got big ballz I've got big ballz They're such big ballz And they're dirty big ballz And he's got big ballz And she's got big ballz BUT WE'VE GOT THE BIGGEST, BALLZ OF THEM ALL!!!"
I took them as a combined tablet for about a month and at the time I was making strength gains but I think this started just before when I started taking creatine. Although I will say my testicular size increased so it must of been doing something haha
I love casein protein too. I gets you big quick. I will cycle off once I reach my goal. I ideally don’t like to take dried milk, but it works like steroids man.
We don't have enough research to know for certain what the best way is to take it. I take it 5 days on 2 days off for 9 weeks, then take 2-4 weeks off.
@@alejandroga366 I take 1 pill a day, because the brand I use is a strong dose. It will depend on the brand you are using, the potency, and how many grams are in each capsule.
Like you, my free test is borderline low, though my total test is fine. If you haven't made one already, it would be great to see a video on Boron. It is supposed to raise free test by reducing SHBG (which is the hormone that binds test; my SHBG is borderline high). I have been taking 10 mgs, 2 weeks on one week off for about three months. I actually found I got a bit stronger at first (and note I am 57 and I have been lifting for the better part of 40 years, so I have basically plateaud). I did have a hand injury for the last 6 weeks causing me to use machines, so it's hard to say if I have progressed since the first month on it.
Thanks for sharing your experience with boron. I’ve done 9-12g boron early this year for a few months and didn’t notice a difference. I didn’t get my blood work done then, so I can’t say if it had an impact on my SHBG and free test.
You might try Barlowe's Herbal Elixirs High Potency Nettle Root. It contains a high percentage of 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran which binds readily to SHBG, leaving less to bind to your free test.
Same here. Free test below range, total test still ok, e2 crushed and shbg above range. Pretty much TRT candidate from what i understand. Have u checked ure blood after taking boron and all the other stuff did it lower ure shgb?
@Saule Kalpokiene how do you feel? Does experience any symptoms of low testosterone? I just got my blood work done yesterday and before I get it done the next time I will be sure to take boron regularly to see if it has a positive impact on my free testosterone.
Hi there thanks for making a video on tongkat ali and fadogia I am going to start tongkat Ali and fadogia combo hopefully it will increase my testosterone. I am also using Himalayan Shilajit it has many benefits it has been a year since I start using it and I love it so much that I imported it straight from Hunza Pakistan please look into it and if you want to try it I can send you some.
The tongkat ali I used during the 2 month experiment discussed in this video was not an extract and still boosted my testosterone. After that experiment I switched to a different brand, which I shared in the link. That tongkat ail is an extract that has been standardized to 10%. As far as I'm aware, it's the most potent tongkat ali on the market.
I'm 28 with average test I know we're in a bit of a difference in that regard but what are your thoughts after doing it in terms of me doing it? As in the cycle and amount I should do? Unfortunately there isn't much out there to gauge a decent way to do it for me. The people I've spoken that do it are also higher in the age bracket so im not sure if I should be doing as much as them or what hahaah 🤦♂️ thank you for the info hey extremely helpful
Yes, the dosing would still be the same. Whether you should try it or not is totally up to you, what you want to get out of it, and deciding if it's worth it. Even if it increases your testosterone like it did for me and others, it's not the kind of testosterone increase that will see you packing on muscle mass. But it's enough to see a boost in energy, libido, and in some cases like myself some strength gains.
@@losefatgetjacked oh interesting okay yeah I'm going to try it for a month and see what happens in my case at the moment my mental state is a bit ....stale....😂 is the best way I can put it. Everything feels like alot of effort due to life stuff and I've read test helps you enjoy effort so I'll come back and let y'all know what happened
I was actually a little leaner prior to taking these supplements. At the time of the video I was already 4 months into a muscle building phase and in a gentle calorie surplus.
So would you say fadogia agrestis is safe? I have heard that since there hadn't been much research that it could be toxic. I am a healthy guy that is on point with sleep, exercise, nutrition, etc. I've been taken 400 mg tongkat ali a day and was going to include 600mg of fadogia from momentous which is recommended from andrew huberman
I wish I could provide a clear answer to your question, but we really don't have enough research to make a definitive and clear decision. The research about toxicity was in mice and it's difficult to correlate how that would translate to humans. I experienced no ill effects during the 2 months while I used fadogia agrestis and my blood work came back with normal testicular function, but I think I'm going to hold off a while before using it again until more research is done. I'm planning on combining tongkat ali with cistanche next.
@@losefatgetjacked thank you for the response! Do you mind sharing the benefits of cistanche and what brand/dosage you would use along with tongkat ali?
Like tongkat ali, cistanche may have a positive impact on testosterone and libido. It may also have a positive impact on energy, strength, and cognitive function. I take 200mg and this is what I've been using lddy.no/1cm3g
Have you used tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis? Share your experience in a comment below. Save yourself 10% on the most potent tongkat ali using the coupon code: LoseFatGetJacked10 when you visit this link lddy.no/1c2jh This is the tongkat ali I've been using for the past year.
I have the solaray tongkat 400mg it says 1 pill a day just started today should I take 2 I see u tried 2 pills a day
So far the last near 3 weeks on Solaray Tongkat ali 400mg 1 per day 2 days off on the weekend. Changes libido 100% "on the days being used only". Grip strength increased with 140lb captain of crush hand gripper from 8-12 to15 reps first set and 20 2nd set by day 18. I did not expect any gains in the gym only for libido. I only do 4 sets of grip strength sets with 140lbs per week so this was the only evident change. Mid 40's and trying anything natural I can, I don't want to do TRT again gel 7-10mg per day due to the 12th day palpitations hit "high red blood cell count" goes away a day or two after stopping. Tongkat ali definitely boosts libido more than TRT Gel for me. Not to mention trt bricks DHEA-S levels into the 1's... I was taking DHEA 10mg every other day and it pushes my DHEA-S levels into the 8's to and to 16's if I take 20mg. Thank you for your video!
Right on @Sweep The Leg Thanks a million for sharing your experience. I'm so glad to hear that you felt positive benefits as well 💪
@JS FIG I only took 1 pill of tongkat ali each day, which is 400mg and 1 pill of the fadogia agrestis, which is 600mg.
@@losefatgetjacked hello I am French, Tongkat ali is less followed than at home. I would like to ask you a question: I have consumed Tongkat ali from two suppliers in France and that it is the 100:1 extract and the other Tongkat in root powder gives me the effect of a sleeping pill, it puts me to sleep! I increased the quantities and it's the same! awakening is normal. my testosterone level is now 892.33 ng / dl unfortunately I did these tests while I regularly consume Tongkat ali, zinc, Ashwagandha. Why do you think I have this reaction with Tongkat ali? yet I have the impression that I lack testosterone thank you for your answer
I'm taking just Fadogia Agrestis for about 3-4 weeks now, @ ~600mg/day taken all at once in the mornings, and while I have not seen a *huge* libido increase, I have absolutely seen all the usual indicators of a significant testosterone boost. After about the first week I started to feel more solid, and now I'm cutting pretty well. It seems to be pulling me out of a sedentary lifestyle.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. That's great!
how about the toxic kidneys & liver tissue death?
@@flyingosom202yeah, I totally died.
@@ToddTommow "tissue" death.
Doesn't mean you die.... at least not immediately.
Enjoy that though, you're obviously not the sharpest.
How long did it take before you gelt anything?
My testosterone was naturally at 600ng but i started taking fadogia and tongkat ali at 500 and 600mg and i dont think i feel anything yet.
this guy is a G! deserves a sub no Cap
Thanks
I was using Creatine and then jumped on both, after a few days I decided to drop the Creatine to make sure it’s working. Not only did I not lose strength, but I got stronger. My muscles (chest in particular) feel way fuller.
So glad to hear that you have experienced positive benefits. Thanks a million for sharing.
creatine stays in your system for a while
@@mndeg at that point it had been over a month.
Did you ever end up getting back on creatine? I’d think you could stack creatine on top of fadogia and tongkat to get the most benefits. Asking because I just started this exact protocol, really hoping to see some results.
@@hegemonious unfortunately I developed stomach issues with the tongkat and fadosia. As time went on it got worse so I had to drop it. But they both worked, if your stomach can handle it I highly recommend them. I did go back on the creatine later since I couldn’t keep taking them.
Tongkat Ali has worked for me during my cutting phases to help keep test levels steady when reducing bodyfat. I would recommend to increase dosage steady thru your cycle plus use it on a every 5day on and 2 day off during the week to help it better bind with body receptors -uptake process. After 10-12 weeks I stop for about 3-4 weeks and start again if I am still in a fat reducing phase. I typically do not take it when I am in a calorie surplus phase.
Outstanding share brother 👊 I’ve been doing the same. 5 on 2 off. So glad to hear you’ve had a positive experience with it 💪
Morning:
~1000mg Fenugreek
~1000mg Fedogia Agrestis
w/ breakfast
Noon:
~1000mg Tongkat Ali
w/ lunch
Definitely seeing muscle mass and strength increase with this protocol after a little over a month of trying it.
Nice! Glad to hear that's been working for you. Did you notice a jump in libido with the funugreek?
Regarding Libido, about an hour after taking Fenugreek you'll notice the increase.
Your girl will be able to hang from it.
If your hypoglycemic be careful as fenugreek lowers blood sugar levels.
@@republica843 Good to know 👍
My nutritionist suggested I have 3 weeks on, 1 week off of this protocol.
1000mg of tongkat ali in lunch!! Dont you suffer from insomania?
I am over 50 with naturally high testosterone and started with the Tonkat Ali for 6 weeks and then added fadogia there was a little bump with the tonkat but a huge wave when I added the fadogia. First time I tried any supplement other than whey powder 20 years ago
Thanks a million for sharing your positive experience with both tongkat ali and the addition of fadogia agrestis. I'm so glad to hear this. Keep up the great work man.
so your first supplement is the most toxic supplement I've used a million supplements lmao people are so dumb
I’m waiting for my Fadogia to arrive. Are you taking it every day or alternate days. I am currently on Tongkat Ali and noticed some small benefits in terms of energy and muscle recovery. Btw I agree with you about CBC 🤣
@@chriscruciat2469 one month on one month off.
Which brands are you using for each?
I’ve been taking Fedogia agrestis, tongkat ali, DIM and turkesterone for a few months. My T went from 516 to 754 in the first 30 days. In the 2nd month I started gaining weight. I was 164 (I’m 6”2’) at 11% body fat. Today I weighed in at 182.9.
Mostly gained in my glutes, not much if any fat gain that I can tell. My skin seems fuller and tighter than before. I’m cycling off for a month to see what happens.
Interested in adding boron based on comments here.
Update one year later: I've since added 1 cup of organic Lifeway Kefir and 15mg Boron supplements to my daily routine. I can say 100% that Kefir does make your balls bigger Lol. I have backed off using Tongkat Ali and Fedogia to 1 week per month. I am also drinking 1 - 12 oz. glass of Beet Root and 2.5 mg Cialis every day. I need to get my T tested soon but adding the cialis has been a game changer. I’ve definitely bulked up and my libido improved significantly.
Thanks a million for sharing your experience. That's crazy impressive results. Holy crap. I wonder how much of that is muscle gains?
@@losefatgetjacked I’d say 60% is bulk muscle. I’m bigger all over but not much in the waste. I’ve been doing power yoga for 2 years 4x /week and just started stations classes. I forgot to mention I am taking 50mg zinc and 500mg magnesium daily as well
@@patrickfoote4781 right on brother! I take 400mg of magnesium myself and am about to include 20g zinc. I've become a huge fan of yoga!
Any side effects from that?also do u still use all those supplements?thank u
@@patrickfoote4781 What form of magnesium do you take? Magnesium Glycinate?
That's a great video mate. Couple of things we need to be aware of: once we flood the body with any form of anabolic testosterone, the body starts ramping down its own T production resulting in a marked decrease in testicular volume. Secondly, we need to cycle on and off these supplements as its the free-T (not the total T) that we want to increase. Most T is either SHBG or Albumin bound and when the body detects too much free-T in blood (and that is very common in men above 40 as our overall physical activity compared to a 20 year old kid is generally low) it goes into homeostasis and increases SHBG prod resulting in diminishing returns over time.
Thanks for sharing your insights! I wouldn't say these supplements or any supplement flood the body with anabolic testosterone. It only causes a subtle increase in testosterone. But you're right about the body compensating and a need to cycle. It's interesting that you say free testosterone increases as we age. I've seen the exact opposite in all of my clients who get regular blood work done. I've been taking boron for a few months as it supposedly reduces SHBG, which may increase free testosterone. I'll be interested to see the results of my next blood work. Again, Thanks for sharing your insights. Much appreciated.
I don't think this adds testosterone, it just helps support our bodies naturally ability to produce it.
@@losefatgetjacked That’s …. not what he said.
wow, great job, outstanding content, i'm 60 +++, multiple health degrees, decades of actual high level clinical experience, I'm still lean and muscled at 10% BF, yours is one of the very few health related videos that I've ever watched that I would recommend to others !
Thank you so very much. I appreciate that big time. Thanks for leading a great example yourself 💪
I actually just started tongkat ali today. I'm also doing creatine , ZMA, and vitamin d. I'm hoping all of this plus eating quality foods and lifting weights 4 to 5 days a week will give me sone results after awhile. Definitely not expecting miracles lol.
I LOVE it man! Please keep me posted on your experience and how you're feeling.
Please Raise your expectations, those Supplements ➕ working out will definitely get you some result, #KEEPPOUNDING!
@@davidmorrison4416 agreed 👊 I’ll definitely be using them again 💪
I had been plataued for 2 years at about 210, but I benched 2x a week for 3 months and ended up benching 225 x 10.
Was only on creatine.
Good sleep and nutrition as well but yeah. If your hitting the gym right, and sleeping and eating well, you'll see results.
Just stay consistent.
@@duskyracer8800 Outstanding brother! That's great to hear. Well done with that progress. My lifestyle couldn't be more consistent with quality sleep, nutrition, and stress management. Strength gains have been halted for years. As expected for someone who's been lifting for over 30 years. But just recently my strength gains have gone up with the addition of some of these supplements. It may be a placebo effect, which would be even more fascinating than if it was the actual supplements themselves.
Im in my 50s, stack Testosil, tongkat ali, and a NAD supplement together and I feel amazing.
Nice stack you're using there! Thanks a million for sharing 👊 So glad to hear that it's helping you feel your best.
I have been taking the same brand of tongkat as in this video. I am 40yrs old, one month in, I agree with midnight and breakfast boners and increased strength and focus in the gym. I am happy with the product for sure.
So glad to hear that you’ve had a positive experience with these supplements in regards to libido. Thanks for sharing
Hi mate. Any trouble sleeping at all?.
I haven't had any trouble sleeping
@Lucas Did your penis got bigger and longer? After 8 months usage
Well I am 47 and still wake up hard some nights. So this will only help.😅
I have been using them 2 test boosters on & off for about 5 months, & i honestly seen some major improvements with my workouts, & my body. Only problem now is that i don't really go to the gym anymore due to injuring myself at the gym again. I went to the doctor about my tendinitis in my right arm, & he told me just to rest it, but it still hasn't gone away, so i have been doing more leg workouts instead of upper body stuff. Now i have injured my left groin area, as i herd a pop noise when doing split squats, so now i am injured in that area. I started exercising when i was 12 years old & i am feeling sad now because i am losing all my gains, & it also helped me mentally. I don't know if i will ever come good again, but i guess for now i will just have to keep seeing a doctor to hopefully get fixed up 🙏. I hope you & many others like yourself don't go through what i am going through at the moment. Stay fit & strong Scott. 👍💯💪
Oh man Damien. I'm sorry to hear about the challenges you have been facing. I appreciate you sharing them with us. It's incredibly difficult when one of the things that brings great joy to our lives gets pulled away from us. One thing is certain, you likely won't take it for granted when you return to the gym. Where are you feeling the tendonitis pain around the elbow? Is it the inside of your arm?Have you checked out any videos to help relieve elbow pain? When did you injure your groin? That can take a while to fully heal, but hopefully you'll be able to do some leg exercises soon.
Do some yoga and work on recovery you will be fine
I injured my self lifting and supplemented boron for 1 month and it drastically improved almost back to 100%
interesting! Thanks for sharing
Cissus quadrangularis 😊
Ive been taking both for past week or so. I do feel more fiŕm and upbeàt. Will see where this goes.
I'm so glad to hear that you're already experiencing positive results. Please keep us posted on how your body continues to respond during the upcoming weeks. Thanks a million for sharing.
Great content delivered honestly and enthusiastically....thank you!
Thank you so much for the positive feedback. I sincerely appreciate it
As a middle aged woman who has done resistance training most of my life and being a runner, I can say the following: I have been using Tongkat Ali for a year and buildt a lot of muscle mass..
I just started using the combination of Fodagio and Tongkat Ali.
I experienced insane energy levels. I could not stop running! After my endurance run this morning, I started sprinting, then my resistance training and then MORE sprinting!
I spent 2 hours in the gym, but felt invincible 😂
Thank you so much for sharing your positive experience with this combination. So glad to hear that it's been effective for you
Gal Gadot,eat your heart out...Go,girl.good luck..
Well reviewed, thx.
Just two days ago I started supplement the Tongat Ali and my gym performance already better. I mean more strength. Let's see how it goes.
Cheers
I'm so glad to hear this! Thanks a million for sharing your experience. You're definitely not alone in your strength gains with tongkat ali.
clinical test made on white tongkat ali, not black or red. Im malaysian,
here we boil the root and drink it, believe me tongkat ali is very effective in improving. the price of the root is only 10 dollars for 500 grams and it lasts up to 3-4 months, supliments are very expensive. I use the traditional
Thanks for sharing! That's fantastic to hear that you are consuming tongkat ali in it's most natural form.
I'm taking those very same products right now. About 3 weeks in. Plan is to cycle off after 8 weeks.
My starting t was 215.
I will check again at 8 weeks. As well as my liver.
I'm coming from 8 years of being fat and lazy and very sedentary.
I do believe it's working as I don't dread the gym now and I feel a little better overall.
So hard to tell what is what because I'm down 45 lbs in 12 weeks with time restricted eating and getting rid of mountain dew and tobacco.
Congratulations on your success and lifestyle changes the past 12 weeks my brother. That is freak'n outstanding and inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing. Please keep me up to date on how you continue to respond to the tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis. Keep up the great work!
How's it going?
@@michaelmoloney3591 blood work showed my t stayed the same but my shbg went down a few points. Disappointing
any update on your t levels now?
@@motorbreathjz so I rechecked and pretty much the same. Only difference was the sex hormone binding level was 30% lower
this guy is pretty cool I subscribed thanks
Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to sharing this journey with you.
Trying the Sigma supplement. One of my concerns is libido, “volume” and mental clarity motivation. So that’s basically the goal but if it moves my actual numbers up that’s great too.
Those are great expectations to have with that supplement. Please keep me posted on how it goes.
Hey hows the results after 4 week? Did you get good results
@@amitrana6489 energy is up and it helped lower anxiety, sleeping better as well. I don’t find myself overeating as much either. So far it’s been subtle improvements. Will soon be taking a week off.
@@rios39 thanks a million for the update. I'm going to roll with tongkat ali and cistanche next time around and keep you guys posted on that
@@losefatgetjacked yes I like this one but I may try something new for experimental reasons. I am noticing a difference in my workouts. I mostly do a more intense version of yoga with squats and dynamic push-ups and I can definitely notice I can do it for longer and I’ve been able to do more of the push-ups and squats without the feeling of my muscles exploding lol
Hi Coach, Love from India... ❤, could you please suggest, which brand should we use...
This is the tongkat ali I recommend lddy.no/1c2jh and I now use their cistanche instead of fadogia agrestis
i'm chillin at 20yrs old running both of these same brands and some other stuff. only been on for a week but the shit is ridiculous. great video.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I'm glad to hear that you've been experiencing positive benefits from the combo as well. Thanks for sharing
Would you do it again? I am curious if it’s worth it.
Thanks for sharing! Are you still taking these and still recommend them?
I'm still taking tongkat ali. This is the one I use lddy.no/1c2jh I stopped using fadogia agrestis after this 2 month experiment and have since been using cistanche instead lddy.no/1jpb8
@@losefatgetjacked Thanks for the feedback. Was there any negative effects you noticed from the Fadogia Agrestis or just wanted to try something different?
Thumbs up smashed and subscribed💪🏾
Thank you. Much appreciated. Please let me know if there are any topics you’d like me to cover
Great video
I have been really focused on health and optimization of my blood biomarkers.
My Testosterone before taking Tongkat Ali was 300+, after 500+.
I ran out of Tongkat Ali and my next test was back to 300+.
So I am back on Tongkat ali.
I was taking Fadogia here and there, but I am thinking I will stop taking.
You made comments about your thyroid.
Are you taking Iodine?
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing your experience and blood work results. I haven't taken fadogia agrestis since this 2 month experiment, but have continued with tongkat ali. I'm not taking iodine. My thyroid function is great. My naturopath had me do more detailed blood work to make sure I was converting T4 to T3 efficiently and it's all good.
I forgot to add
Boron 5mg (more usable Testosterone, converts to Free Testosterone, lowers SHBG) my Free T went up from 10 to 12
DIM (blocks conversion from T to E)
That's outstanding! I've been taking boron for the past 4 months and look forward to getting my blood work done soon to see if it had an impact on my free testosterone.
@@MrEtc31265 you taking the CITRATE version,lads? It has the best ability to separate test from SHBG..
Great video … If you are looking for the next supplement to take , please try Boron … I’m doing about 6 mg per day … 3 in morning and 3 in afternoon and can feel the difference immediately… Give it a try
Thanks for the positive feedback and for the recommendation. I used 9-12mg of boron for 3 months earlier this year and didn't notice a difference. It doesn't mean that it didn't work for me. Some positive benefits may have shown up in my blood work, but I didn't feel a difference. Boron was also in a few of the testosterone boosters I took this year. Seems to be common in an effort to increase free testosterone by reducing SHBG, but we really know little about it or even if reducing SHBG is actually a good thing.
@@losefatgetjacked Guess it’s all in what synchronizes with our own individual body chemistry .. Either way great video and channel !!👍💪
No doubt about it. It's always fascinating to see some people respond great to certain supplements and others don't respond well at all.
what form of boron do you take?
Use boron before workout 2w on 2w off
The fadogia agrestis worked great for me. Killing it in the gym, big gains, and libido: am 43, high sex drive, but my morning wood had disappeared. Fadogia brought it back. Shooting bigger loads, too. Sex has been the best. Now adding in tongkat ali... 2 days in, will see how it goes.
That's outstanding man! I'm so glad to hear that it has such a positive impact on you. Thanks a million for sharing.
Thanks for sharing your experience. did tongkat Ali or fadogia cause any sleep problems or insomnia?
It didn't effect my sleep, but I've heard it has had that impact on some people.
Update: I got my blood work done and this did boost my testosterone ruclips.net/video/IMj_9tTuSDw/видео.html
Tested for 644 testosterone and 119 for free test. Not bad numbers but wanna see how I feel after 6 months of tongkat. Will test after again and post results
Outstanding! I'm stoked to hear about your experience after 6 months and if there's any impact on your numbers. Thanks for sharing.
How are u feeling rn?
11.9 free T?
@@cristobal.palmero4919 Nah, 119. It was a different metric used. 40-200ngl is the reference range. I was 119 n/gl
@@mohammada3116 tbh don’t really feel a huge difference.
Great video! Thanks
Glad to hear that you found it helpful 💪
Cool video, thanks. Very educational. Been doing a lot of research on this stuff lately. Good video
Thanks a million for the positive feedback. I'm glad to hear that you found value in the message.
@@losefatgetjackedSure did
Hey Coach, im 26 and i go to the gym 6 times a week and do about 50% cardio 50% muscle training as ive been trying to shred. Ive went from 175 to 158lbs but i dont see enough muscle. I want to get Leaner now and im thinking about trying these products out. Is it okay to stack these with preworkout/Creatine before gym? Will i see a increase in Muscle Mass or moreso weight loss? Any input is really appreciate it thank you coach!
It’s always going to be REALLY tough to build muscle when in a calorie deficit. If you gain any, it will be minimal. Stay focused on losing fat and then dedicate yourself to a lengthy muscle building phase where you remain in a gentle calorie surplus. These supplements have the potential to increase your testosterone a bit and your strength, which can help indirectly build muscle, because you’re able to lift more.
I started doing TRT a long time ago. I began injecting myself and was taking a shot every week for many years. I thought I'd eventually get used to it and it'd be just like any other thing in my week. But man I gotta tell you, it's one of those things I just couldn't get used to. It was always that feeling I'd get the day before I knew I'd have to inject myself and I HATED it. I hated it so badly that a few months ago I said to hell with it, I'm done having a moment every week that I absolutely hate. I've been looking for a natural way to move forward, I'll give this a shot.
That would be my concern as well. I don't do well with needles. Unfortunately, this supplement combo although great, is nothing compared to the effect of TRT. Still, I look forward to hearing your experience in using them. I'd love to hear your feedback after a couple months.
@@losefatgetjacked it's funny. I'm not afraid of needles. The part where you inject it into your shoulder you don't even feel (I learned how to make that part completely painless). What they don't tell you is that Testosterone is an oil. So it comes out of that needle slowly if you inject it into your shoulder like I did. So its like you're awkwardly trying to push the back of the shot in as fast as possible, but it comes out slowly. So over time it's the injection of the testosterone itself that hurts never the needle.
@@yearight1205 😯 yikes! Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.
Thanks for this review. I was very curious and now I'm going to try it out.
Awesome! Glad to hear that you found the review helpful. I'm looking forward to hearing about your experience with it.
Thank you for your excellent video . I just starting using Tongat Ali and Fadogia and results are amazing.
I just wondering do you still using other supplements like magnesium, zink and D vitamins?
I'm so glad to hear that you have been experiencing positive benefits from this combo. Yes, I'm still using those other supplements and will do an update on my current supplement stack next week.
@losefatgetjacked thank you, mate
Nice video...im taking 8mg of boron with 300mg fenugreek can i take 600mg of FADDOGIA too?? what the best time to take them??w THANK YOU
Yes, as far as I'm aware, combining those 3 supplements should be fine. But as I mentioned in the video, research is limited on fadogia agrestis, so we don't really know.
i just decided to take 600mg per day for 3 months after taking into account of toxicity.
Keep us posted on your experience please
Need 1,200mg dose.
When should you take these supplements? Morning, midday or before bed?
I recommend in the morning but it doesn't really matter too much. It just depends on how you respond. I tend to feel more energized, which is why I take it early. Some have mentioned it has a calming effect on them, so they take it later.
It’s me again lol can you make a video about genesis wild yam cream or nitric oxide soon and do a month on it like this and share your experience
I appreciate the request, but likely won't be reviewing anything like that.
When do you take them? Time of day? Together? With or without food? Pre or post workout? Thank you 💪🏼
With my morning shake and the rest of my supplements, which is pre-workout for me.
@topfitness2335 really good questions that I unfortunately don't have the answers to. There isn't much research on fadogia agrestis, which makes it very difficult to prescribe timing, dosing, cycling, etc.
When and how much should I take and should I eat with a meal?
I usually take them first thing in the morning with my breakfast, but it really doesn't matter. As for how much, it depends on the quality. The brand of tongkat ali I use is potent and you only need 100g. As for fadogia agrestis, we don't have a lot of research on it, so I'd go by what the label recommends.
At 5:18 "with either of these supplements" sounded like "with Iron and B supplements" ....I had to re-listen to that.
lol... my apologies. I'm a fast talker 😁
So whats the cycle you follow Mr? 5 days on 2 off for both, or 1 month continuously?
Yes, 5 days on 2 days off. Usually for 8 weeks, then take a couple weeks off.
@@losefatgetjacked thanks a lot!! Appreciate your fast response! I will go with your protocol then! 😉
This guy's physique lo8ks amazing.perfect balance. Congratulations! I hope ill get there in a couple of years.
Thanks a million for the kind words. I appreciate it 🙏
insightful video. 2 questions: 1) outside of libido, does the combination have injury/recovery benefits? 2) Where is the best outlet for Canadians to order these products? I cannot find either in any local supplement stores.
I'm not aware of any research on injury/recovery benefits of this combo. I initially got my tongkat from iherb.ca online. Now I use this, which I get shipped from the US lddy.no/1c2jh
Amazon. Canada has Amazon correct?
First of all looking good brother great physique.
Ive been taking both with creatine and universal sterols for around 5 weeks. Ive had to come off the stuff as i have been making gains with very little effort. I have spots on my back and my testes have definately increased in size. I will go back on them when my back clears up as its horrific, definately doing something to my hormones as ive been behaving more like i was in my teens😬
Oh wow! Were you taking the universal sterols prior to the 5 weeks or just started taking all of this stuff together at the same time?
There is a lot of interest these days in boron to raise free testosterone. Any thoughts on that?
It definitely seems like a legit supplement to experiment with. I used 9-12mg for 3 months and didn't "feel" or notice a difference, but I also didn't get my blood work done to see if my free testosterone went up. I'll try it for several months leading up to my next blood test to see if there's an impact.
Thanks for all the info. I'm gong to give both a try.
You're welcome. Please keep me posted on your experience.
My testosterone was 531 and then I took Tongkat and Fadogia for just one week before blood work and it jumped to 726. I felt anxiety and was having insomnia and sometimes a dull headache but then I just felt concern that I might be messing up my hormonal balance and stopped the Fadogio and just take the Tongkat 5 days a week. Unfortunately I should have had a complete hormonal profile, Free Testosterone and Estrogen etc but did not. I asked my doctor if we could have that done and he would not comply. I did not notice any increase in strength during exercise. Keep hearing different thoughts and warnings about taking these supplements and so I feel uneasy about it without the proper monitoring. It's very difficult I've found to get a physician to comply when it comes to these things. By the way, I am 64.
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Thanks a million for sharing your experience and insights. I totally agree that it can be very difficult to find doctors who are very proactive our health measures in this regard. It's a shame, because we are trying our best to keep ourselves healthy so we don't become a burden on the medical system in our later years, yet we get brushed off. I stopped with the fadogia agrestis after this 2 month trial and am going to hold off until further research is conducted on it. I have however continued with tongkat ali and combine it with cistanche now. Cycling on and off to maintain it's effectiveness. I haven't experienced any negative side effects myself, but sure appreciate you sharing yours, as it can very well help others in deciding whether they want to give it a try or if they do try it and start experiencing similar side effects they will know they aren't alone.
@@losefatgetjacked I thought that maybe if I stayed on the Fadogia that the side effects might subside but decided to put off using it for now. What is your cycling routine ? Have to say you look great ! Muscularity to envy ! Keep up the good work !
I usually do 5 days on 2 days off. After 8 weeks I stop using it for 2 weeks.
@@losefatgetjacked Thanks for your response ! As I said, I discontinued the Fadogia (for now) after about 10 days but continue to take the Tongkat 5 days on and two days off. I will also stop for 2 weeks after 8. I'm scheduled for the additional blood work in October for a complete hormonal profile including free testosterone and will let you know then what the results are with just taking the Tongkat. Liver and kidney function was fine several weeks ago. After stopping the Fadogia all side effects were gone as well after two or three days.
Hello I just started following you I'm 56 and have been working out for a hour every morning I have been taking shilagit 600 daily I watched the pod cast with Rogan about fadogia and tongkat then found your videos I then daw your blood work update can I take shilagit and tongkat together it doesn't sound like you recommend fadogia any more and advice on what I'm doing would be great also do you have on line coaching hope you get back to me thanks
Shawn
I've been using cistanche with tongkat ali instead of fadogia agrestis and LOVE it! The cistanche product I use actually has shilajit in it lddy.no/1jdl1 and yes, I offer online coaching www.losefatgetjacked.com/coaching
Hey I'm in Canada aswell. I was wonder where can I buy fadogia agrestis?
I just order my supplements online
would this be safe to take at 15??
It's safe to take at 15, but it's not something I would be spending my money on to get a little boost in testosterone.
Be nice to see a link to the products?
Here's where I got the fadogia agrestis barlowesherbalelixirs.com/fadogia-agrestis-extract and here's where I got the tongkat ali ca.iherb.com/pr/solaray-tongkat-ali-400-mg-60-vegcaps/99983 When I start taking it again I'll be getting the tongkat ali from here lddy.no/1c2jh
I see people say don’t take it if your young but I just bought one that has both Tongkat Ali and fadogia agrestis it’s been 3 days on it and I feel better in my mood and to get things done faster my workouts feel good but I wonder if it’s bad to be on this at a young age because I see people usually older doing it like I don’t wanna get off and loose everything I gained anyone reading this let me know I’m 21 btw and I don’t have any health problems but I wanted a better sex drive like I don’t wake up with morning wood everyday like I used to when I was 14-17 you know I’m tryna get that back lol and I dont master bait or watch corn either but I had a bad problem with that when I was younger and feel like that dropped my testosterone levels but I haven’t in my life tested my bloodwork to see if I’m even low or high or in the middle
I really appreciate you sharing this. It's not that it's bad for younger guys to take this, it's just that they don't usually need it. It can increase your testosterone a bit, like it did mine, but not enough to pack on muscle. But enough to improve your mood, energy, performance, and libido. If your sex drive is down, it's not always because of low testosterone. It can also be psychological. Having one episode of performance anxiety can get in your head and lead to more experiences afterwards. Just something to consider as well.
@@losefatgetjacked thank you ! I asked I might of replied to your other answer you gave me on my other comment cause I just seen this one you answered also but I appreciate you for answering all my questions
how long did it take for you to feel a difference?
Within the first week
This is very useful! I am 48 and I am seriously considering Testosterone and HGH therapy but perhaps I will try these options first. Can you let me know what you usually test for when you do your blood tests? Testosterone levels and what else? - free test?? I don’t think my regular blood test shows this so I have to ask the doc specifically for these
What symptoms have you considering Testosterone and HGH therapy? How's your sleep, stress, and diet? I get total testosterone, free testosterone, prolactin, thyroid to make sure I'm converting T4 to T3 well, among other health markers.
@@losefatgetjacked I have been losing muscle for the past 10 years my family keeps asking me if I’ve lost weight every time we meet (even though the weight is the same). I work out and I feel no progress whatsoever, I am not doing that great down below 😅 so I suspect that testosterone it might be low. I’ve done my blood test recently and it came out good but I do not think it included testosterone
@@losefatgetjacked I forgot to tell you that I went back to the doctor to get the testosterone test and as I suspected the test came back very low - 251 ng/dl. I am currently taking Tongkat Ali - been taking it for about 2 weeks and I do notice better energy. I also ordered Fadogia but it has not arrived yet
@@chriscruciat2469 I'm glad to hear that you are experiencing an increase in energy from tongkat ali. I definitely notice an increase in that myself. Have you been dialling in your lifestyle? Sleep and diet?
@@RoTelnCheese not yet. I started taking Tongkat Ali and Fadogia like a month ago so I want to finish the treatment and then test again probably early March
Hi Coach Scott, how many days did it take you to start noticing the effects of the stack?
I started noticing some positive differences within a few days. We are going to respond different. And it's possible some of it could be placebo.
@@losefatgetjacked I see. I’m on day 8 and it seems to be more settle, I’m think I’m just starting to feel some effects. Thank you!
@@Clifford_C please keep me updated on how you feel as you continue using it.
@@losefatgetjacked I will do. If I don’t start noticing anything after 3 weeks, I will switch out the Fadogia Agrestis from EVL Nutrition, to the one from Double Wood. I’ll let you know if I do.
@@losefatgetjacked Will do. My stack is Solaray Tong Kat and EVL Nutrition Fadogia Agrestis. I have a bottle of Fadogia from DoubleWood, in case the one from EVL Nutrition doesn’t work after 3 weeks. I’ll keep you posted.
Is it ok for me to take ashwaganda, creatine, tongkat ali, and fadogia agrestis all at once? If not how do I take them?
Yes, that's ok.
@@losefatgetjacked ok thank you, I’ve also been reading about side effects found in tongkat like cardiovascular problems and hair loss
I've been bald for over 20 years, so I can't speak about that side effect. My heart health however, has been top notch. With that being said, it's great to see you being proactive before taking a supplement. If you're concerned about any potential risks, I wouldn't take the supplement. Instead, focus on continuing to improve upon your lifestyle.
Awesome vlog bro! The SIGMA that you mentioned is by Naughty Boy here in the UK. It got released March of this year. I tried it and the libido kicked in on the second day!!! Although the company said that 8 weeks was a recommended cycle, I found three weeks was maximum for me and I came off it after that. I noticed that I was permanently in a happy mood/constantly feeling positive. The side effect that worried me was the constant ache in my testicles throughout. It also increased the size of them. I did at that time suffer bad lower back pain which I blamed on sitting in the office but strangely I don't suffer any lower back pain now - could this be strain on my kidney at the time as I was also on Ghetto Gear which was Turkesterone and Ecdysterone - Although having used this 6 weeks prior, I believe that this had very little/zero gains/result for me. I'm hoping to try Sigma & Tongkat Ali together in October and December (four weeks on, four weeks off during a super clean winter bulk/heavy natural bodybuilding winter routine ready for competing again next March-May :)
It's great to hear that you experienced positive benefits, but man, aching testicles would concern me. I've heard that some guys experienced this from fadogia agrestis, but it didn't happen when I took it. And just hearing about this concern was enough for me to swap out fadogia agrestis for cistanche after my 2 month experiment.
@@losefatgetjacked Oh wow that is interesting as I was planning on another cycle. I may just try Tongkat Ali for four weeks instead. Certainly for me, three weeks was the maximum for the SIGMA. It is a highly concentrated brand. The positive moods were totally awesome though. Maybe for me two weeks on, two weeks off.
Simple question. Did you Take from both supplements 1 capsule at the same time, or one a day separately? Your video is very informative. I just didn't understand the dosage.. Greetings from Greece
I took them both at the same time 400mg tongkat ali and 600mg of fadogia agrestis.
Where did you get both supplements from?
@@digigamezone2744 for these 2 months I got the tongkat ali from iHerb.ca and fadogia agrestis from Barlowe's Herbal Elixers. Since then I've been getting tongkat ali here lddy.no/1c2jh
What is the brand of Fadogia Agrestis?
Barlowe’s Herbal Elixirs
That brand of Tongkat you have only had 400mg of dried root. From my understanding you need 20-30g of dried root to have any effect. Meaning you would need a 100:1 bottle. What are your thoughts on the Solaray brand being only 400mg fried root?
hmmm... that's the first I've heard that. I initially went with that brand for this two month experiment, because I heard about it on Andrew Huberman's podcast. I've since been using this brand, which is the most potent I've come across lddy.no/1c2jh
I take 300 Tongkat and 200 fadosia and I cycle 2 weeks on 5 days off and it's super benneficial.. my workouts are awesome. My energy and mood are improved
So glad to hear it. Thanks a million for sharing.
how's your liver and kidney
@@markbalogh9655 I still got em. And I'll be real with u the kind of compared to the lifestyle I used to live a low dose of an herbal supplement is being kind to them. But I haven't noticed any real issues. And I'm pretty strict about cycling off to give my body time to naturally function.
@@markdavis7853 hah I understand i say the same thing to myself like oh I better be careful with this herb it can be hard on the liver or kidney than I have to remind myself these are ancient plant medicines our ancestors used and I put much worse through my body
Is there a reason why people are taking both at the same time. And which of the two would be less Toxic?
The reason people are taking both at the same time is likely because of the Andrew Huberman podcast where he mentioned the benefits of the combination of them.
Been reading about the nootropics brand on Amazon half of the men is saying it hurts their stomach even after eating food and if you don't eat food and take it will make you extremely nauseous.
That's interesting. I have it with my shake in the morning and have never experienced any kind of stomach issues from it.
Should have added affiliate links!
Thanks for mentioning that. I'm affiliated with Nootropics Depot and have been using their tongkat ali, which I like better lddy.no/1c2jh
Did you get bloodwork back? How was the results?
Yes. Testosterone went up. Here's the video covering it ruclips.net/video/IMj_9tTuSDw/видео.html
Thanks Scott. I report back!
Right on brother! I'm looking forward to hearing about your experiences 👊💪
It doesn't matter how little Tongkat Ali I take or how early in the day I just can't sleep at night.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's fascinating how for some people it makes them sleep and others it hinders their sleep. We all respond different to everything. Listen to your body and do what's in it's best interest.
You probably have horrible sleep hygiene but you’re blaming the herb
@@erics2860 How can you insult someone that you don’t even know. My hygiene is fine. I’m not going to explain how many time a week I shower or brush my teeth. Maybe you should look at yourself since your so concerned with Hygiene.
After posting this video 2+ years ago, what are you thoughts on Tongkat Ali & Fadogia? Do you have a recommended cycle to take it upon?
I’m still using tongkat ali, but instead of fadogia I’ve been using cistanche. I take it for 5 days on 2 days off. I also take a week or two off every 10 weeks or so.
Hi why did u stop taking fadogia ? Cz i read in some reviews that it causes kidney disease!
Great looking physique guy . I am going to try this , thanks.
Thank you. Please update me on your experience with it
Should it be taken in the morning or the night?
I recommend taking it in the morning. I have it with my breakfast.
How do you Cycle these together? Do you take it continuously or take some time off? I usually hit the gym about 5 days a week. Do you take it only on gym days?
Thanks in advance.
I only took fadogia agrestis with tongkat ali for 2 months during this experiment. I've since been taking cistanche with tongkat ali until more research is done on fadogia. I take it 5 days on 2 days off for 6-8 weeks, then take 1-2 weeks off so my body doesn't adapt to it and it maintains it's effectiveness.
@@losefatgetjacked Thank you for the information.
did you have your T-levels taken before supplementing and if so what were those levels before and after?
In this video I share my blood work from before and after ruclips.net/video/IMj_9tTuSDw/видео.html
Is there a follow up video?
Yep... ruclips.net/video/IMj_9tTuSDw/видео.html
Great review thanks!
You're welcome. If you decide to try them for yourself, please be sure to share your experience.
Thought you looked familiar. I used to go beach walk in BR a few years ago. Small world. Where’d you find those brands? Amazon??
Awesome! Where are you training now? I bought that two month supply of tongkat ali from iherb.ca and the fadogia agrestis from Barlowe's Herbal Elixers. Since then I've been getting this tongkat ali lddy.no/1c2jh
I am 27 years old, and I have really low libido and energy. Do you recommend these supplement to boost energy and get me out of this state ?
They have been shown to help and may be worth a try. Of course, focusing on improving your overall lifestyle should always be your first priority. Making sure you are getting an adequate amount of sleep is always number one and consuming nutrient rich foods to fuel your lifestyle. Have you had your blood work checked to see if you are low or deficient in any vitamin or mineral?
Yeah. Just started taking tongkat and it’s exactly like you said…
So glad to hear it. Thanks for sharing insights from your personal experience. I appreciate it.
Tongkat ali please tell me good brand name
This is the brand I trust lddy.no/1c2jh
Ive taken Fadogia with Tongkat for over 2 months and tested my testosterone before, during and after. My total testosterone has not changed.
That’s very telling, thanks for that.
Did you by chance get your before/after test levels checked at the same time of day, after doing roughly the same activity? If so then your experience is all the more meaningful. You’re prob already aware thar Test levels typically vary dramatically over the course of a given day, and before/after a workout. So if you tested at the same time of day and after abt the same activity level both I think your experience carries a lot of weight.
@@Mr_Bob_Loblaw Yes. Absolutely everything was the same, same time of day, same time of week, same diet, same sleep.
All 3 times fasting between 7-8am. The sources are legit and the Tongat is Indonesian. This sucks.
What were your results? I went from 550ng/dl before to 750ng/dl after, not sure is it coincidence, since I also did workout little bit more serious.
@@somebb I really appreciate this share. It’s important to take in all of the different experiences to help make an informed decision about whether or not it’s worth experimenting with ourselves. I fasted for 14 hours before my test. I always get it done at 7am and my lifestyle is the same. I definitely experienced a libido boost during the first week and didn’t expect to see my testosterone increase. So that was a pleasant surprise
*I found this video while trying to do some result on nature test boosters. Id like to try these out and see will they help me . besides working out , sleep and proper diet . is there any of major factors I should implement with these supplements ?*
Please let me know what your experience is after taking the supplements for a couple months. Other than the big 3 you listed, managing stress is really helpful
@@losefatgetjacked Ok thanks . I believe I can manage those things well.
Tongkat Ali reminds me of that AC/DC song…
"I've got big ballz
I've got big ballz
They're such big ballz
And they're dirty big ballz
And he's got big ballz
And she's got big ballz
BUT WE'VE GOT THE BIGGEST, BALLZ OF THEM ALL!!!"
lmao
I just ordered TA we will see
Awesome! Please keep me posted on your experience with it.
I took them as a combined tablet for about a month and at the time I was making strength gains but I think this started just before when I started taking creatine. Although I will say my testicular size increased so it must of been doing something haha
Yeah, that would be tough to tell if it was the creatine or the tongkat ali that increased your strength. Likely a combination of them both 💪
you take them in the morning ?
Yes I take them with my breakfast
Helps greatly with my mood along with Maca root…getting trimmer too…
Outstanding man! Thanks a million for sharing your experience with it.
I love casein protein too. I gets you big quick. I will cycle off once I reach my goal. I ideally don’t like to take dried milk, but it works like steroids man.
Just started the same combo today
Awesome! Please keep us posted on your experience
Sir how do you take it an also do you cycle this on an off plz reply
We don't have enough research to know for certain what the best way is to take it. I take it 5 days on 2 days off for 9 weeks, then take 2-4 weeks off.
@@losefatgetjacked both products at the same time
How Manny pills you take at day
@@alejandroga366 I take 1 pill a day, because the brand I use is a strong dose. It will depend on the brand you are using, the potency, and how many grams are in each capsule.
@@losefatgetjacked my has 600 an 400 of to Kali
I can't find fadogia agrestis on the noctropic website? Is that where you got fadogia agrestis from?
I got the fadogia from Barlowe's Elixers. After that 2 month experiment I switched to using cistanche from nootropics depot along with tongkat ali
Like you, my free test is borderline low, though my total test is fine. If you haven't made one already, it would be great to see a video on Boron. It is supposed to raise free test by reducing SHBG (which is the hormone that binds test; my SHBG is borderline high). I have been taking 10 mgs, 2 weeks on one week off for about three months. I actually found I got a bit stronger at first (and note I am 57 and I have been lifting for the better part of 40 years, so I have basically plateaud). I did have a hand injury for the last 6 weeks causing me to use machines, so it's hard to say if I have progressed since the first month on it.
Thanks for sharing your experience with boron. I’ve done 9-12g boron early this year for a few months and didn’t notice a difference. I didn’t get my blood work done then, so I can’t say if it had an impact on my SHBG and free test.
You might try Barlowe's Herbal Elixirs High Potency Nettle Root. It contains a high percentage of 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran which binds readily to SHBG, leaving less to bind to your free test.
@@barlowemichael6829 thank you for the recommendation. I appreciate it.
Same here. Free test below range, total test still ok, e2 crushed and shbg above range. Pretty much TRT candidate from what i understand. Have u checked ure blood after taking boron and all the other stuff did it lower ure shgb?
@Saule Kalpokiene how do you feel? Does experience any symptoms of low testosterone? I just got my blood work done yesterday and before I get it done the next time I will be sure to take boron regularly to see if it has a positive impact on my free testosterone.
Hi there thanks for making a video on tongkat ali and fadogia I am going to start tongkat Ali and fadogia combo hopefully it will increase my testosterone. I am also using Himalayan Shilajit it has many benefits it has been a year since I start using it and I love it so much that I imported it straight from Hunza Pakistan please look into it and if you want to try it I can send you some.
I really like shilajit as well. Been taking it for a few months 💪
No doubt aboot it!
lol 🇨🇦 eh 😁
Where would I be able to get the extract? Some people are saying the extract is what you're ment to get?
This is the one I use lddy.no/1c2jh
The tongkat ali I used during the 2 month experiment discussed in this video was not an extract and still boosted my testosterone. After that experiment I switched to a different brand, which I shared in the link. That tongkat ail is an extract that has been standardized to 10%. As far as I'm aware, it's the most potent tongkat ali on the market.
I'm 28 with average test I know we're in a bit of a difference in that regard but what are your thoughts after doing it in terms of me doing it? As in the cycle and amount I should do? Unfortunately there isn't much out there to gauge a decent way to do it for me. The people I've spoken that do it are also higher in the age bracket so im not sure if I should be doing as much as them or what hahaah 🤦♂️ thank you for the info hey extremely helpful
Yes, the dosing would still be the same. Whether you should try it or not is totally up to you, what you want to get out of it, and deciding if it's worth it. Even if it increases your testosterone like it did for me and others, it's not the kind of testosterone increase that will see you packing on muscle mass. But it's enough to see a boost in energy, libido, and in some cases like myself some strength gains.
@@losefatgetjacked oh interesting okay yeah I'm going to try it for a month and see what happens in my case at the moment my mental state is a bit ....stale....😂 is the best way I can put it. Everything feels like alot of effort due to life stuff and I've read test helps you enjoy effort so I'll come back and let y'all know what happened
Bro your shred is ridiculous. Where you as shredded before you started these supplements?
I was actually a little leaner prior to taking these supplements. At the time of the video I was already 4 months into a muscle building phase and in a gentle calorie surplus.
So would you say fadogia agrestis is safe? I have heard that since there hadn't been much research that it could be toxic. I am a healthy guy that is on point with sleep, exercise, nutrition, etc. I've been taken 400 mg tongkat ali a day and was going to include 600mg of fadogia from momentous which is recommended from andrew huberman
I wish I could provide a clear answer to your question, but we really don't have enough research to make a definitive and clear decision. The research about toxicity was in mice and it's difficult to correlate how that would translate to humans. I experienced no ill effects during the 2 months while I used fadogia agrestis and my blood work came back with normal testicular function, but I think I'm going to hold off a while before using it again until more research is done. I'm planning on combining tongkat ali with cistanche next.
@@losefatgetjacked thank you for the response! Do you mind sharing the benefits of cistanche and what brand/dosage you would use along with tongkat ali?
Like tongkat ali, cistanche may have a positive impact on testosterone and libido. It may also have a positive impact on energy, strength, and cognitive function. I take 200mg and this is what I've been using lddy.no/1cm3g
Best place to buy?
This is the tongkat ali I use lddy.no/1c2jh and I got the fadogia agrestis from Barlowe's Herbal Elixir