I have a lifetime tahoma i paid $200 for and I modified it and made it my own fishing yak. Ive had it for tow years and ive ran class 2 to 2.5 rapids on it and had a blast. Ive caught numerous fish in several lakes while my buddies in their $1500 yaks are getting skunked. Ive since upgraded to a feel free moken 10v2. I understand that the quality of plastics and yes overall quality changes a lot with the more expensive ones but safety is all about common sense and wearing your life vest always!
My Pelican 100x is absolutely fine for fishing. It holds two spare rods and it's very stable. I'm 230 Lbs and 5' 10". I go out on rivers and lakes. I like the rear storage area. I carry my ruck and fish upstream a few miles, then camp the night and fish my way back in the morning. Just my .02 cents.
I also bought a Pelican argo 100x recently to get back into kayaking and I completely disagree with you. Maybe you think "this is fine" because you haven't experienced anything else, but I've kayaked in the past and IMO the Pelican is dangerously unstable. My wife has a 10ft Sun Dolphin that we bought at the same time, and even compared to that the Pelican is really bad (I actually think the Sun Dolphin is pretty stable all things considered, it just isn't fancy). My view of the Pelican is it's extremely tippy, primary stability is just total trash. Secondary stability is okay but it doesn't track great, and I really wouldn't want to push it at all. For a fishing kayak where you're moving around all the time, I'd strongly recommend upgrading to something more stable. Why risk losing all that expensive gear to a capsize because the river current caught it while you were turning? Also that's a 275lbs capacity boat so you've only got 45lbs of gear capacity before you've maxed out the boat. Upgrade man, just sell it and move on. You've committed to kayaking at this point so just do yourself a favour.
I just bought the lifetime spitfire 10. Very stable feels good with seat ugrade I'm 5'9 240 had my 35lb pack one rode (till I add more holders) tackle box gallon of water.. 330$ with extras including buy another seat
I'm 60 250 lbs. and paid $324.99 (I guess that would be considered cheap) for a Lifetime Stealth 110 with a 300 lb. float capacity from a Discount Store. I first tested it out getting into open water into boat wakes from the lake then went into a Cove to test my movement limitation on it and had zero problems. Loaded it with a Soft Pack Fish Carrier to use as an ice chest for drinks, food and fruit on the front, put a milk crate on the back to keep an anchor and rope in so that if I ever do turn over the anchor will drop out and keep the boat from drifting off, on the back deck I also have a 30L Unigear Dry bag with extra clothes, U.S.M.C improved bivy bag, sleeping bag, tarp, paracord, towel and some dry food. I keep my Lure bait box and a knife in the Hull Well and two fishing poles one in one of the back pole rod holders and the other in the front middle pole holder as I split the Paddles when fishing keeping one half in the other back pole rod holder and to Paddle with the other half. I haven't had one trip that I've felt concerned with tipping or flooding and I float big lakes and Rivers.
Your buddy is 260 lbs. No shit he shouldn’t be using a kayak that holds up to 275lbs. Mind blowing stuff here. Sams sells great budget kayaks that work perfectly for most. If you have a beer belly and weigh over 250, buy a bigger kayak.
He's got a point but you can modify a cheap kayak to your liking by adding outriggers which will stabilize you as long as you can make them not create drag. But it's possible. I have been out in the open ocean in a cheap 10 footer pelican Odyssey a mile out and it functioned great without flipping but I had stabilizer floats. You will still get wet though but that's half the fun. Whether it's cheap or expensive, you will find yourself doing mods because it's part of the hobby.
you are correct. though, don't go for the absolute cheapest yak out there...rather, make sure it's got a good weight capacity (how much it can carry) and a weight you can manage/lift. I've got a cheap intex inflatable, and I would NEVER ruin a good kayaking trip by going fishing!!! ;-) Seriously, my inflatable talkes up half the back seat of my honda civic. that's worth it right there. Also, spend a little more on the paddle. $100-150 paddle will be such an improvement over the one that comes with the cheaper 'yaks. So...did you get one, yet? what did you decide on, if you did?
Someone told me to spend $3000 on a kayak. I spent that on a used Jeep Cherokee and have been enjoying the hell out of it the last 6 years. How in the hell is a kayak as much as an entire vehicle? That’s ridiculous.
Great Video, and an absolute truth. My first Kayak was a used Feelfree moken 13. The very first time I got on the water with it I knew I had to change to a better kayak. There's 450€ down the drain. Another thing I think it's really important is to know that freshwater and saltwater fishing are 2 completely different worlds.
Feel frees arent cheap kayaks. I have a cheap and an expensive yak and ive caught lots of fish on both. Just be smart and use common sense and youll be fine.
Just let him be . It was my grand mother’s lamp who passed away . I keep it to remember her . Sure it’s not amazing . But she had it for a long time , and I’m keeping it going .
Field and stream blade. Under $200 by no means professional but it will let you know if the kayak scene is for you. Over 6 foot tall tho it’ll rub your knees
Not looking to dip my rod in the pond. No fishing/ Want to get out there w/ The Orcas n Dolphins. BJ's got a green one for like $250- I'll take my chances. Maybe my Tiger Shark missions....
yes and now cheap ones are 300_450 and the field and stream 700_800.. like you go to buy a chevy truck and 2 years later not 50k its now 110k lol crazy
I have the sun dolphin boss 12 sos there just alike. I’m 6’5 330 lbs been a great kayak only issue was seat I reinforced the sides with all thread. Also added skew so it would steer straight.
andrew Brown those are nice . I’ve been around some guys in the bay who had them . And handled some rough water decent . Just have to keep your balance in rough water
Don't listen to this guy. Go on some calm water, test your kayak out. If youre on flat water and not doing anything crazy, as long as its from a box store, it'll float and hold you. Go to walmart, get some pool noodles to shove into the hull to add buoyancy. buy a $5 seat cushion. buy an automotive sponge to get water out of your seat. bam youre good to go. he's talking about some intense fishing done from a kayak. if thats what youre planning, get a pontoon style boat.
Amped Up Fishing you are a veteran kayaker now , and know how it works . And know the rules of safety . Most new comers don’t . And that’s when un wanted mistakes happen
@@bassmoore2083 I have a little freebie but I learned to make it work. Not comfortable, no room and certainly not fisherman friendly. I have told others to save up instead of buying a inferior product as well.
Im just getting into kayaking and I almost purchased a pelican mustang 120x on impulse until I decided to do some more research. Im 270 5"11 so I ended up purchasing a field and stream eagle run 12 on sale for about $480 total new from dicks sporting goods. I felt comfortable buying it but whats your opinion on this boat? Is the talon better then the eagle run 12?
how's your experience with the eagle run been? I think it's a good one, from what I"ve heard. And, I think you did good not getting the mustang. I don't recall it's capacity, but you may not have had much wiggle room!
I really enjoy it! It has a 500lb weight capacity and its pretty much perfect size for me. Its stable as you tread water and even as I got it going as fast as I could I still didnt feel like I was going to tip over. It is heavy and bulky and the little cup holding is a joke but other then that its a great kayak
Guys you don’t need to waste 600 dollars on a kayak get a lifetime tamarack 10ft for only $315 on Walmart super balance max weight of 275 ib great beginner kayak
I've owned an Ocean Kayak Frenzy for the last 20 years. I had NO idea how cheap some of them are made now until a friend bought 2 Sundolphins from a budget store. Water fills the hull from the supper holes.
I got a 250 10ss excursion it's fine I've taken it out on big rivers an caught monster pike. It's a sit in it's what could afford. I have never knock on would flipped a cheaper kayak. Yes dont be stupid and buy something to small for a fat ass.
Just skip all the bullshit and go straight to a Hobie compass or Outback (the Pro angler 12 and 14 are both $5k kayaks that weigh well over 130lbs). I started with a used ocean kayak trident prowler 15 and it was cool for the $300 I paid for it and I caught many many many largemouths and Smallies out of it but I couldn’t stand in it and topping it on my lifted suburban was a pain in my ass so I decided to go big, spend the $2,600 (after tax) and recently two weeks ago, bought a 2021 Hobie Compass and I’m absolutely in love (I was going to buy an Outback but after testing out both of them, out of the two I felt the compass was more stable while standing and casting for me) the pedal drive (mirage drive 180 with turbo fins) is so smooth, fast reliable and easy to use (the reverse is a great feature as well). They’re also made in the USA, have an amazing warranty on the drive and hull, the vantage seat is the most comfortable one I’ve ever sat in, it comes “Lowrance” transducer ready with a flush mount transducer mount under the kayak Berley pro makes a kit for other brands to go in the same spot, it comes with all the necessary hardware to wire the transducer and a battery all you have to do is drill two holes, run the wires, install the head unit and boom ready to go and it only weighs 68 lbs wit everything on it so I can easily stick it on my roof rack without damaging the kayak or my burban’. I’ve made it a competitive tournament kayak angling rig now and I won 2 of the 3 tournaments I’ve fished in the yak so far and placed 8th in the one this past Saturday. Here’s the mods I’ve done to it: I outfitted it with a lowrance Elite fs7 with the hdi transducer and mounted the head unit to the H rail kit I installed, Hobie H crate with cover and 4 H rail rod holders attached to it, plus a H rail tackle tray, a power pole micro mounted on the back in the brass inserts that Hobie made into the stern of the kayak, installed the rectangular hatch kit where the 8” circular hatch kit was, relocated the 8” hatch to the bow of the kayak in the Hobie pre marked spot, installed the Hobie deck pad kit, installed a Berley Pro keel guard, installed 2 21” H rail kits, installed two rubber mesh net pockets on both sides of the kayak one covers the fish finder wire and one 10 AH Dakota lithium battery for the fish finder and one 35AH agm battery for my Island hopper 46lb trolling motor (it installs just like the pedal drive easily removable) . I’ve got a little over $5k in the entire set up without the trolling motor and a little over $6k with it. I hope this helps anyone looking at high end pedal drive kayaks, Hobie truly does make the best in my experience and opinions. I’ll probably end up buying a pro angler 14 next year after I get a kayak trailer for two kayaks and give the compass to my fiancé, she loves bass fishing almost as much as I do lol, Tight lines and have a good one my fellow anglers and kayakers 🤙🏻.
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Not everyone can afford to pay $600+ on a kayak. Some of us can only afford a $300 one.
^600? Try $1200 for a proper 12' fishing kayak. That's more than I paid for either of my cars so I 100% feel you.
I have a lifetime tahoma i paid $200 for and I modified it and made it my own fishing yak. Ive had it for tow years and ive ran class 2 to 2.5 rapids on it and had a blast. Ive caught numerous fish in several lakes while my buddies in their $1500 yaks are getting skunked. Ive since upgraded to a feel free moken 10v2. I understand that the quality of plastics and yes overall quality changes a lot with the more expensive ones but safety is all about common sense and wearing your life vest always!
My Pelican 100x is absolutely fine for fishing. It holds two spare rods and it's very stable. I'm 230 Lbs and 5' 10". I go out on rivers and lakes. I like the rear storage area. I carry my ruck and fish upstream a few miles, then camp the night and fish my way back in the morning. Just my .02 cents.
I also bought a Pelican argo 100x recently to get back into kayaking and I completely disagree with you. Maybe you think "this is fine" because you haven't experienced anything else, but I've kayaked in the past and IMO the Pelican is dangerously unstable. My wife has a 10ft Sun Dolphin that we bought at the same time, and even compared to that the Pelican is really bad (I actually think the Sun Dolphin is pretty stable all things considered, it just isn't fancy).
My view of the Pelican is it's extremely tippy, primary stability is just total trash. Secondary stability is okay but it doesn't track great, and I really wouldn't want to push it at all. For a fishing kayak where you're moving around all the time, I'd strongly recommend upgrading to something more stable. Why risk losing all that expensive gear to a capsize because the river current caught it while you were turning? Also that's a 275lbs capacity boat so you've only got 45lbs of gear capacity before you've maxed out the boat.
Upgrade man, just sell it and move on. You've committed to kayaking at this point so just do yourself a favour.
I just bought the lifetime spitfire 10. Very stable feels good with seat ugrade I'm 5'9 240 had my 35lb pack one rode (till I add more holders) tackle box gallon of water.. 330$ with extras including buy another seat
I'm 60 250 lbs. and paid $324.99 (I guess that would be considered cheap) for a Lifetime Stealth 110 with a 300 lb. float capacity from a Discount Store. I first tested it out getting into open water into boat wakes from the lake then went into a Cove to test my movement limitation on it and had zero problems. Loaded it with a Soft Pack Fish Carrier to use as an ice chest for drinks, food and fruit on the front, put a milk crate on the back to keep an anchor and rope in so that if I ever do turn over the anchor will drop out and keep the boat from drifting off, on the back deck I also have a 30L Unigear Dry bag with extra clothes, U.S.M.C improved bivy bag, sleeping bag, tarp, paracord, towel and some dry food. I keep my Lure bait box and a knife in the Hull Well and two fishing poles one in one of the back pole rod holders and the other in the front middle pole holder as I split the Paddles when fishing keeping one half in the other back pole rod holder and to Paddle with the other half. I haven't had one trip that I've felt concerned with tipping or flooding and I float big lakes and Rivers.
Your buddy is 260 lbs. No shit he shouldn’t be using a kayak that holds up to 275lbs. Mind blowing stuff here. Sams sells great budget kayaks that work perfectly for most. If you have a beer belly and weigh over 250, buy a bigger kayak.
He's got a point but you can modify a cheap kayak to your liking by adding outriggers which will stabilize you as long as you can make them not create drag. But it's possible. I have been out in the open ocean in a cheap 10 footer pelican Odyssey a mile out and it functioned great without flipping but I had stabilizer floats. You will still get wet though but that's half the fun. Whether it's cheap or expensive, you will find yourself doing mods because it's part of the hobby.
I don't go fishing. I want to get a kayak just for road trip, casually paddling around in the lake, so I believe a cheap one is enough.
you are correct. though, don't go for the absolute cheapest yak out there...rather, make sure it's got a good weight capacity (how much it can carry) and a weight you can manage/lift. I've got a cheap intex inflatable, and I would NEVER ruin a good kayaking trip by going fishing!!! ;-) Seriously, my inflatable talkes up half the back seat of my honda civic. that's worth it right there. Also, spend a little more on the paddle. $100-150 paddle will be such an improvement over the one that comes with the cheaper 'yaks. So...did you get one, yet? what did you decide on, if you did?
The clip of the dude almost tipping is dumb the dudes way to big for it
Someone told me to spend $3000 on a kayak. I spent that on a used Jeep Cherokee and have been enjoying the hell out of it the last 6 years. How in the hell is a kayak as much as an entire vehicle? That’s ridiculous.
Suckers are born every day 😂
Great Video, and an absolute truth. My first Kayak was a used Feelfree moken 13. The very first time I got on the water with it I knew I had to change to a better kayak. There's 450€ down the drain.
Another thing I think it's really important is to know that freshwater and saltwater fishing are 2 completely different worlds.
JTA Kayak Fishing I made the same mistake ! Lol . But when it’s a passion , you look past it
Feel frees arent cheap kayaks. I have a cheap and an expensive yak and ive caught lots of fish on both. Just be smart and use common sense and youll be fine.
"Don't cheap out" says the guy with a $5 garage sale lamp behind him, recording the video on low-budget equipment. lol
TheJungalope didn’t know a canon 80D was cheap .. keep moving snowflake
Since when does a lamp translate into your financial situation??!
Just let him be . It was my grand mother’s lamp who passed away . I keep it to remember her . Sure it’s not amazing . But she had it for a long time , and I’m keeping it going .
why u being a dick?
Field and stream blade. Under $200 by no means professional but it will let you know if the kayak scene is for you. Over 6 foot tall tho it’ll rub your knees
What size is the kayak
@@AlexD02 the blade comes in 8' 10' and 12' - maybe others, those are the ones I can think of.
Not looking to dip my rod in the pond. No fishing/ Want to get out there w/ The Orcas n Dolphins. BJ's got a green one for like $250- I'll take my chances. Maybe my Tiger Shark missions....
Would you recommend buying a cheap kayak if I only want to use it for simple paddling and not fishing?
yes
yes and now cheap ones are 300_450 and the field and stream 700_800.. like you go to buy a chevy truck and 2 years later not 50k its now 110k lol crazy
Ozark trail pro angler 12 I've had it for over a year I'm 6-foot 300 and I stand in mine and go all over only payed 475 so don't be scared to by one.
Matt Allen that kayak is pretty sweet , seen that on display at my Walmart . Was pretty impressed with it
I have the sun dolphin boss 12 sos there just alike. I’m 6’5 330 lbs been a great kayak only issue was seat I reinforced the sides with all thread. Also added skew so it would steer straight.
Are they good just to go on the water, chill and just paddle for fun?
I'm not a Fisher, and I don't want to go to crazy streams or rivers. Only calm waters
Would the lifetime payette 116 angler sit inside be considered a cheap one?
Would you recommend a field and stream eagle run 12?
andrew Brown those are nice . I’ve been around some guys in the bay who had them . And handled some rough water decent . Just have to keep your balance in rough water
Great video. Right on point with upgrade to a mid level, a couple hundred more makes a huge difference in safety and fish abilities.
I made the mistake my first kayak .. I think I got a new one in like 3 trips out lol
I agree i have 2 sun dolphin "fishing kayaks" as seen in the video....i assure you this video is right on!
Thanks !
I heard a lot of bad things about them as well but you can modify anything.
I’ve had a pelican strike 100nxt for about a year and zero complaints
I really like the looks of the Jackson Kayaks. That might be my next kayak. God bless...!
DirtBleep Digger Jackson’s are awesome kayaks ! You will def love it
thank you for your opinion
Dang once he mentions Sam's club kayak my heart dropped. Lol
Have not yet used it yet still in the garage but looks like I would be struggling a lot.
Don't listen to this guy. Go on some calm water, test your kayak out. If youre on flat water and not doing anything crazy, as long as its from a box store, it'll float and hold you. Go to walmart, get some pool noodles to shove into the hull to add buoyancy. buy a $5 seat cushion. buy an automotive sponge to get water out of your seat. bam youre good to go. he's talking about some intense fishing done from a kayak. if thats what youre planning, get a pontoon style boat.
@@philyjfry thank you, but yes it all worked out great had a great time using it and even did some fishing in it , planing to do it again this year.
This video made a lot of happy husbands for Christmas lol
HA, maybe. Cheap kayaks can get the job done, but they pose alot of problems too. Its a 2 headed monster even talking about it
so your saying anyone who cant afford a $1200.00 kayak shouldnt be on the water
Nope . Just saying take your saftey into consideration . A bad thing is bound to happen 2-3c more in a cheaper kayak
One day I will get to be able to get a better quality kayak. Nice job man. It's sound advice.
Amped Up Fishing you are a veteran kayaker now , and know how it works . And know the rules of safety . Most new comers don’t . And that’s when un wanted mistakes happen
@@bassmoore2083 I have a little freebie but I learned to make it work. Not comfortable, no room and certainly not fisherman friendly. I have told others to save up instead of buying a inferior product as well.
I got the same one I use it in Rapids Daily not for fishing😅
Im just getting into kayaking and I almost purchased a pelican mustang 120x on impulse until I decided to do some more research. Im 270 5"11 so I ended up purchasing a field and stream eagle run 12 on sale for about $480 total new from dicks sporting goods. I felt comfortable buying it but whats your opinion on this boat? Is the talon better then the eagle run 12?
I’ve never seen the run to be honest . I do know the talons gets pretty solid reviews for the most part .
how's your experience with the eagle run been? I think it's a good one, from what I"ve heard. And, I think you did good not getting the mustang. I don't recall it's capacity, but you may not have had much wiggle room!
I really enjoy it! It has a 500lb weight capacity and its pretty much perfect size for me. Its stable as you tread water and even as I got it going as fast as I could I still didnt feel like I was going to tip over. It is heavy and bulky and the little cup holding is a joke but other then that its a great kayak
Excellent advice!
Happy Dog Bass Fishing thank you , and thanks for watching
Good advice
Peggy M thank you
Guys you don’t need to waste 600 dollars on a kayak get a lifetime tamarack 10ft for only $315 on Walmart super balance max weight of 275 ib great beginner kayak
That's the one I got but mines from Sam's, I hope it works great
I flipped a Jackson doesn't matter what brad it will flip
Bro I use the dames kayak ever and i fill good about that
That intro!!!
The first guy was my favorite .. haha I’ve seen so many first timers try and get in that way ... including me ! Haha
I've owned an Ocean Kayak Frenzy for the last 20 years. I had NO idea how cheap some of them are made now until a friend bought 2 Sundolphins from a budget store. Water fills the hull from the supper holes.
I am a kayaker OKBG 1.Since 2007. You advice is point on. Keep it coming.
Thank you, i see the mistake made often, i even made it myself, thankfully i just really enjoyed it and upgraded within the first month lol
My Ascend Rocks!!!!....lol
TheGrtpmkn yeah man . That’s what I started in . Loved it
fishing kayaks have evolved to needing to tell people they arent that great, especially cheap ones? 😳
Just put some pontoons on it. Lol
What you dint want to be cheap on is your pfd. The yak will float you wont.
I got a 250 10ss excursion it's fine I've taken it out on big rivers an caught monster pike. It's a sit in it's what could afford. I have never knock on would flipped a cheaper kayak. Yes dont be stupid and buy something to small for a fat ass.
I feel like he made this hoping his wife will see it and buy him what he wants
Tj Huddleston haha . My wife knows to let me get what I want or hear me complain about it everyday all day .
BassMoore well sir I’m taking a page out of your book and shared this to my wife haha
Video is like a infomercial very cheesey especially the demonstration videos
Just skip all the bullshit and go straight to a Hobie compass or Outback (the Pro angler 12 and 14 are both $5k kayaks that weigh well over 130lbs). I started with a used ocean kayak trident prowler 15 and it was cool for the $300 I paid for it and I caught many many many largemouths and Smallies out of it but I couldn’t stand in it and topping it on my lifted suburban was a pain in my ass so I decided to go big, spend the $2,600 (after tax) and recently two weeks ago, bought a 2021 Hobie Compass and I’m absolutely in love (I was going to buy an Outback but after testing out both of them, out of the two I felt the compass was more stable while standing and casting for me) the pedal drive (mirage drive 180 with turbo fins) is so smooth, fast reliable and easy to use (the reverse is a great feature as well). They’re also made in the USA, have an amazing warranty on the drive and hull, the vantage seat is the most comfortable one I’ve ever sat in, it comes “Lowrance” transducer ready with a flush mount transducer mount under the kayak Berley pro makes a kit for other brands to go in the same spot, it comes with all the necessary hardware to wire the transducer and a battery all you have to do is drill two holes, run the wires, install the head unit and boom ready to go and it only weighs 68 lbs wit everything on it so I can easily stick it on my roof rack without damaging the kayak or my burban’. I’ve made it a competitive tournament kayak angling rig now and I won 2 of the 3 tournaments I’ve fished in the yak so far and placed 8th in the one this past Saturday. Here’s the mods I’ve done to it: I outfitted it with a lowrance Elite fs7 with the hdi transducer and mounted the head unit to the H rail kit I installed, Hobie H crate with cover and 4 H rail rod holders attached to it, plus a H rail tackle tray, a power pole micro mounted on the back in the brass inserts that Hobie made into the stern of the kayak, installed the rectangular hatch kit where the 8” circular hatch kit was, relocated the 8” hatch to the bow of the kayak in the Hobie pre marked spot, installed the Hobie deck pad kit, installed a Berley Pro keel guard, installed 2 21” H rail kits, installed two rubber mesh net pockets on both sides of the kayak one covers the fish finder wire and one 10 AH Dakota lithium battery for the fish finder and one 35AH agm battery for my Island hopper 46lb trolling motor (it installs just like the pedal drive easily removable) . I’ve got a little over $5k in the entire set up without the trolling motor and a little over $6k with it. I hope this helps anyone looking at high end pedal drive kayaks, Hobie truly does make the best in my experience and opinions. I’ll probably end up buying a pro angler 14 next year after I get a kayak trailer for two kayaks and give the compass to my fiancé, she loves bass fishing almost as much as I do lol, Tight lines and have a good one my fellow anglers and kayakers 🤙🏻.
Send me some money and I will buy a not so cheap kayak.
whats your paypal
If you know what you are doing and not obese they work great. You will probably delete this. But I don't care.
very ignorant and arrogant advice ive ever heard
At the end of the day if you don’t have balance don’t be in a kayak. You get what you pay for