Top Turn Tips - How To Tumble Turn
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2017
- Find out how to tumble turn or flip turn in this video. The flip turn or tumble turn is an essential skill for every triathlete! It helps swimmers maintain momentum and speed whilst training and can save valuable time during the swim section of a triathlon.
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The tumble turn or flip turn is an important skill for every competitive swimmer and triathlete. It is a fast transition between the lengths that helps keep the momentum and speed up during training and can save valuable seconds in the swim section of a triathlon.
Top tips
- Build confidence. Get used to rotating in the water. To start the flip movement, draw your chin and knees into your chest. Your head will direct your body to begin rotating. To stop water going up your nose, trickle air out as you turn. Progress by turning close the wall to increase your spacial awareness.
- Approach. The T on the bottom of the pool is a useful tool as you approach the wall. You have 1 or 2 strokes as your head passes over the T.
- The turn. Finish your final stroke and leave you hand by your side. Initiate the turn and remain compact until your feet meet the wall. Plant your feet side by side against in a squat position. Bring your hands together to allow you to push off in a streamline position.
- Exit. Push off whilst rotating so that you are facing the bottom of the pool. Make sure you hold a tight and streamline position whilst breaking into a butterfly kick. Take your first stroke or two and then only then take your first breath.
This is not an easy skill to master so practise, practise, practise.
Good luck! Take your time with the skill and let us know how you get on in the comments below 👇
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1:13 ... THE MOST IMPORTANT TIP! I had ignored this tip initially, and well I had almost had a blackout! 😅
Fantastic & super encouraging! My original stumbling block was the typical mortal fear of hitting the wall. As a result, I slowed my momentum on the last stroke & flailed my arms underwater during the tumble. This wasted so much energy by nature of its inefficiency. Watched this video at least 100 times (not kidding!), a learning process which taught me that the wall is a friend vs. a foe, that bringing the arms to the side of the body immediately prior to the chin tuck (and here, no longer to fear a head-to-wall strike), that acceleration toward the wall vs. deceleration in the last stroke speeds up the tumble significantly to a much more highly efficient result, w/ correct foot placement on the wall 12" under the surface & easy-peasy push-off. I know competitively-fast swimmers prefer the half-turn simultaneous w/ the tumble; as a modetately-fast swimmer, I love the visual of looking directly up through the surface while pushing off, then doing the half-turn & dolphin kick. Thank you so much for helping me overcome my fear! 👍👍👍👍👍
You guys are doing so great right out of the gates in my eyes, because off stuff like this, i mean, i'm mostly self taught, i have no idea how to do a flip and i feel a bit like a dunce in the pool, i swim fast with "the big boys" but they can all roll and i have to do a normal sort of turn, but now i feel confident in training for this and mastering, making me a faster swimmer :D
Thanks Camiel! Good luck mastering the turn and you'll soon be leaving "the big boys" behind.
Hey there, nice demo for newbies. Can i suggest that once they can complete a turn and push off the wall. The next useful step is to: when approaching wall on the last stroke to aid an effective turn, simply push that last stroke arm under your body and across to the opposite hip, your head follows in a tumble turn. This automatically causes the body to create a half spin in line. That way its much easier to push off as the body is already half turned on the wall. This is an easy way to help newbies to be in a good position to push off the wall and stops getting water up into noises etc...... :)
I think more triathletes should learn this, it definitely helps with stroke timing, control of breath as well as improving your speed in the pool.
We agree its a great training aid and if you do compete in a triathlon with a pool swim then it will save a significant amount of time.
The problem of this is that you can't practice it while you're watching the video 🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😅
Great video, it sums up the procedure and technique clearly. It's definitely harder than it looks!
This got me tumble turning about 20 minutes, excellent video, thank you so much 👍
Now I just need a pool to practice in, always feel a bit silly trying to practice in public lanes ^_^
Our Vegan Adventures yea 👍
OOf I use the hotel pool lollll
No one is looking at you. People are entirely too caught up in themselves to notice whatever you’re up to, so go and train to your heart’s content.
Many thanks for this "how to" video content. They are very helpful tips for amateur runners/swimmers/bikers like myself 😄
Thanks to this video I can now do this! So many great tips and things on this channel!
Video is super helpful, short and packed with info! Thanks a lot!
Omg this helped so much! The thing I learnt was to not have your hands in front while flip turning. I used to streamline and turn with my hands infront which caused me to roll on to my side. I learned that you keep your hands by yourside and only move your chin to your chest.
Great video. I feel this overwhelming sensation to take a breath when I watch it.
I've been using this video to learn how to do it and I have mastered it! Very Helpful!
Nice! This video helped a lot! Thanks!
Great tips, really like it
Tried the tumble turn in the pool today for the first time, but struggled with water up the nostrils and a "panicky" feeling. Will definitely try to blow air out while I'm turning next time. Great tip!
Thank you for the video ❤️
Should have said the video is great - I am going to keep working on my flip turns using your advice. Having said that, I'm really looking forward to the video on how to sire properly and practice this in a pool. Every triathlete needs to know how to do this and swimming a straight line is a LOT faster. Keep the great videos coming!!! Cheers.
John McLean guessing u mean site and not sire 😁
I love that pool, it’s been a few years since I last had the opportunity to swim there
I was taught that ideally you should be on your back when you push off the wall, same in freestyle and backstroke.. And for freestyle, you roll to your side (or all the way to facing the bottom) while kicking. Use the first 'pop up' stroke to start the standard freestyle body roll.
It's been a long time since I was on swim team, though.
Great vid; For me though, mastering the flip turn will be a bit of a process. Had my 10 yr old daughter teaching me at the weekend. I just could not get a straight fwd roll (which she has mastered at her swim training straight away). I seemed to go off in all directions but the one I needed to go in. (My 1st year in Tri - and loving it) keep up the good work....
John Dodd i never do them and tried yesterday after this vid. same! both arms down the side seems to help. need more practice though, I'm not a natural unfortunately!
You should make a video on how to make personal training plans and workouts for swimming/biking/running!
Watch this space Marty. Keep your ideas for videos coming in, we love to hear what you guys want to see.
Can you make a video about Tri Wetsuits and which ones you would recomend and how we should choose them
I still remember my first flip turn, it was perfect first try... that boost after pushing off the wall... it was something amazing... so I tried "immediately" on the second wall of the pool...
aaaaaaaaaaand...
...I smashed my heels on to second try :P
Great job on your first try Krystian! The flip turn does take a while to master so keep practising.
Helpful tip : turn palm of hands when they are at your side, I’m relatively new to flips but this 1 tip helped me no end
Great video - I love the channel already! But you forgot to mention the dolphin kick that gives the flip its momentum. The two most important elements for me are a strong pull of the abs to make a tight curl, plus a strong dolphin kick to get my legs up and over.
Todd Holmes they mentioned a dolphin or front crawl kick to get away, but they didn't go into detail on that.
ironman tooltime Yes, but that's when the turn is complete. Look at 1:57 (and many other places) and you'll see Mark doing a dolphin kick to *start* the flip.
Todd Holmes ok gotcha 👍
as i had a lot of average joes in swimmleeesion - i found verry usefull to let them flip over the lane-ropes. therefore u just lay in the water long armes grabbing the ropes. then pull the lane down to ur hips - as u do this u will flip by automatic. if the pool is empty u can swim 5-10 times crossing the pool - using this exercise overt all ropes.
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as a lot of beginners have a hard time to flip-turn in ballance split this move to learn!
1st u flip from breast to the back - so just 1 axle of rotation. as u lay on the back u push ur self - as u now glide u can turn back to breast again. - get the time betwen flip and turn now step by step - shorter and shorter.
cheers marco
Well explained, it will for sure help a lot of beginners out there ;)
Thanks Arthur!
yeah, i looked at a couple of flip turn videos (and never got it quite right) but the explanation here & the images are better than the others...
Please teach us lost gcn subscribers how to swim efficiently over a long distance
Watch this space Jason!
Nice
I recommend any human being who is able to do this to try, it’s such a beautiful and engaging way to interact with the body!
Is there a difference in speed pulling from both legs only under the water a couple of times before reaching the surface or prioritizing coming up to the surface to give the work to the arms too?
Btw great tip GTN I never thought I was doing the flip all right! I'll follow this from now on
Thanks for your comment Miguel! It is faster to kick under water before coming up to the surface as long as you can maintain a tight and streamlined position.
Can you guys also do a quick video on the right breathing techniques may be along with different methods
Watch this space Praveen! We will have some breathing technique videos coming your way soon.
If you get a head spin when doing a roll in the water any tips? My head 'fizzes' and feels like it is going to explode!
I have broken my nose several times and struggle with swimming without a clip. Can i still be a strong swimmer by using one of these and are they allowed in competitions? Swimming is my weakest discipine by a long way but trying to improve.
I watched this a few weeks ago. I'm tumble turning now, but...although I can seem to do it, and am getting better, I have no way of validating my technique and suspect I'm not very textbook. Its very hard to get anybody to look you over, and you're not allowed to film in a public swimming baths. If you're part of a club, problem is solved, but for solo swimmers, do you have any thoughts?
I always get water intrusion to my nasal cavity which makes me dizzy and headache. How to prevent this?
Can you do how to swim
everytime i turn i usually stop bc i cant breath bubbles for too long and i dont know what to do after i turn like what do i do when i already pushed and when i push i run out of air :(
we need a treadmill indoor session. video and an indoor turbo bike session specific to duathlon or triathlon
Watch this space jmmckenny! Thanks for the videos ideas.
you should do a video on how to set realistic time goals on a triathlon for each leg and also how to use your specialist sport to your advantage example if you are a good swimmer should you go at the same pace as others to save energy or should you go faster to gain an advantage
Hey GTN, some subscriber feedback... how about a video debating the topic of using mixed strokes as a triathlete (ie: vs a pure swimmer). Why should I bother doing backstroke if I am never going to do it in a race. Potentially same question for flip turning shown above here. Thanks!
Great question SlowBoyAthlete, watch this space for some more swim videos coming your way soon!
How do I do this on my bike?
Mark decided a video doing flip turns on his new tri bike wasn't the safest idea!
I'm having such a hard time doing it cause, I can do it but I feel out of breath and go to the surface gasping for air 💨
thanks for the video. My question is when 90% of triathlon swims are in open water and wetsuit. should triathletes forget things like this and concentrate on sighting while swimming in the pool and use boyancy shorts to mimic a wetsuit while swimming in the pool? i find i spend all winter in the pool and when i put a wetsuit on my stroke needs to change. we know that not spending time on the tt bike or position will effect the bike and we are not swimmers but open water triathletes. love the channel.
Chris York it's more of a training aid. It can help maintain momentum during training sessions in the pool. Plus they're just cool!! We have a lot of pool triathlons as well as open water triathlons here, so they're usual for them too. Thanks
What Mark said plus it add a bit of hypox to your swim workouts.
I suppose it was a more general question about triathletes swim training. we train in the pool with no wetsuit on and race in open water with a buoyancy aid. our swim coach spends lots of time on body position to make us faster in the pool. my thoughts are that we need to spend more time in a wetsuit (or floaty shorts) improving our catch and pull (still driving from the hips). swimming with minimal legs and good sighting skills. the closest comparison i can think of is training the bike section on a mountain bike and then trying to put out power on a TT bike. it works but it is not the best. all very different for onon wetsuit swims or draft legal bike racing. cheers chris
It always used to confuse me because they would tell us to hold the wall and flip, but I never knew which way to flip because they never showed us
OK - so 1 to 2 stokes into the wall, exhale as you flip and then 1-2 strokes before you breath!? I know Mark is a former pro (i.e. much better swim fitness than the rest of us) but there is no way I can manage that much time under water (and exhaling at the same time) at race pace or even below race pace for longer (250+m) intervals without needing some air. I can do flip turns at a slower pace but if I'm doing anything other than an easy pace the flip turns force me to slow down so I can recover to get air. I assume it's better to hold a faster pace and do an open turn that slow down and do flip turns?
One tip - start by doing slip turns as part of your warm-up and cool-down when pace doesn't matter and you can focus on the turn (and maybe swim in a slower lane).
Can someone clear up whether tumble turns are allowed in pool swim triathlons? I thought they weren't but a good skill to learn.
Andrew Ward race rules. Some allow it, others do not.
Hi Andrew, it varies from race to race. It just depends on whether the race organisers think that it is safe to allow people to tumble turn.
Guys has crazy tan lines. But such good tips. I'll be trying this
Majority of Pool based swims in the U.K. Seem to ban flip/tumble turns, pretty sure their used to be a BTF rule doing the same, your better off perfecting your open turns In MHO
There is only one think that i have seen in other video and you can clearly see in this video but is not explained - when you r doing the turn you r using your hands to slow down your turn momentum and helping to stay closer to surface
Thanks for the comment Waldek. This is a great point and is something people often develop automatically as they practise the turn.
Is there a minimum depth for flip turns? My local pool is 1.1 and 1.4 meters at the walls so I've been reluctant to try flip turns.
I do flipturns in a 1.5m and 0.9m pool, so you souldn't worry about it ;)
I genuinely find them easier to do in a shallower pool!
There is no minimum depth for flip turns, just make sure you feel confident of being able to fully rotate safely. As you build in confidence, you can progress to turning in shallower waters.
u can use this skill in all pools with water as deep as ur arm is long. needs a lot of practise. as u are an beginner - start not in water less than 1m.
Another great video unfortunately in a 25 Meter or less pool (standard most places) you lose to much of the pool! If I TT in a 25m pool I'll only swimming 20 meters, so better to touch & half push to get more strokes in!
Hopefully ur show how to turn around a marker or bouy, think the newbees to OW would enjoy that!
Hi tall paul. When you are underwater in a streamlined position you are quicker than when swimming at the surface. Therefore, in a TT in the pool you will be faster with a flip turn and strong push off.
Watch this space for some open water skills coming soon!
Global Triathlon Network yes, but surley if ur training long distance doing a TT (tumble turn) is cutting down the pool length ? For some interval/speed session it has its benefits!
tall paul it keeps a more constant breathing pressure where u get a break each time u do a non flip turn so some tradeoff i guess.
Are alot of triathlons in pools?
+Nonoririko some but this is as much a training technique as anything else.
I don’t know how to do it 😢
Enter the turn diagonally, you will be half way being the right way up on your exit 👍
I can do tumble turns but sometimes when I do it water gets into my nose and it hurts my head
Same!!
You forgot the fly kick to flip even faster. Otherwise great way to learn!
He does it but doesn’t mention it.
tan lines to the extreem!
Years of work went in to them!
Nicely explained, but my pool doesn't have the T
there is a kick to help in the flipping
If you're starting to learn tumble turns it's much easier if you keep your head in the water for 5 meters so you can see the wall approaching all the way. But its harder on your lungs!
GSN?
As we've said, global sociopath network doesn't sound good for a channel name.
Funky trunks
We call these flip turns in the States. When are we going to see a cross over turn (back-breast) tip video? :P
Yeah it depends where you're from. Over here we call them the tumble turn. I'm aware they're called the flip turn in the US, which is why I refer to both. Thanks, Mark
Advanced tips:
1 don't take a breath right before the turn to carry more momentum into the turn
2 gently submerge your head as you finish the last stroke to carry even more momentum into the wall
3 push off completely on your back and kick yourself back around (is faster than trying to rotate at wall)
This must've been shot even before the GTN swim caps arrived. #sherlockkajetanowicz
There against the rules in some countries
Using the T on the bottom? Watch out when you change or use different pools as they aren't always in the same place!
Great point stug45! However, once you are familiar with the pool, the T is a great way of orientating yourself.
I learnt a tumblr turn in one day and by myself it’s not hard and I’m just 13
Atta Envia I learnt it at 8 yrs
Yeah and learning new stuff when you're young is a lot easier than when you're an adult
first?
Congratulations Matt 💪
Happy to see GTN come into existence. This video is a miss though. All the pool races I've been in didn't allow flip turns. Plus it gives a false sense of speed and time as compared to open water. I would have like to see something more on actual stroke/kick form and technique if dealing with the pool.
duh
Most of the races I've done allowed it. If it's a snake swim, practice that! Being able to touch and push off the wall doing the same two dolphin leg kicks you've practiced on your tumble turns helps you get more speed!
Thanks for the comment. The flip turn is a great skill to master and if you do race in a pool where flip turns are allowed then this skill can save you a significant amount of time. Thanks for letting us know what you would like to see and keep sending us your video ideas going forward.
everytime i try this the water enters my ear
Wear swimmer's earplugs
It's called a flip turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As a swimmer that drives me nuts when people call them differently.
It depends where you're from. Over here they are called the tumble turn. I make sure I call them both for that reason. Where are you from? Thanks, Mark
shavedheadwonder no - tumble turn! Welcome to the UK.
I'm from the United States. California to be precise.
It's Aluminium!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As a decent person that speaks Queen's English it drives me nuts when insular mongol Americans say Aluminum.