My favourite..... From the 80s Shimano 600... Maybe you are too young to remember! It looks so minimalist compared to today's offering, matching those skinny Reynolds tubes of the day. So pretty!
I did the swap from 10 to 11 on my 2016 Felt. Took the washer between locknut and cone from the left side and moved to the right.That shifted the hub enough for 11 speed cassette. Then touch up the dish on the wheel.
I would keep your brown saddle on.......When you are riding, no one will see the color of your saddle, and therefore the rest will look like it fits. Looks great with the upgrades you made to it. Completely understand your points to keeping true to the OG bike.
I found Merida Reacto 6000 w/ 105 di2 that’s about $400 pricier than 4000 w/ 105 mechanical. In total Reacto 6000 is ~$2500 because it’s 20% off. Do you think it’s worth the price to get the 6000 over the 4000?
@@FlourescentPotatoThere will be no more Tiagra. It's CUES from now on. The top version will be 11-speed - however it's uncertain if there will be a cable brake version.
R9100 hs the lightest, crispiest, cleanest shift I ever experienced in mechanical shifting. You don't even need to push with a finger to upshift: just have your hands on the shifters and move your hand slightly inwards to push the brake / shift lever.
@@thetriumphsprint tan/brown whatever. My point was that you can use the same handler tape color as the accent color of the saddle and it would look like you picked the color on purpose instead of having only some random accent in a different color
I am the grateful owner of a 2003 Trek 5900 USPS Lance Armstrong bike very similar to yours. I bought mine in near perfect original condition for $600 US. We upgraded the bars to a shorter, shallower bar and installed new Sora shifters. I am super comfortable and very happy with this bike. I am still using the original wheels with Continental GP5000 tires. Thank you for sharing yours!
After using a quite heavy hybrid for a decade, this 60 year old gave myself as an upgrade to a new Cannondale Quick 1, with mostly Shimano 105 components, 2XL, this spring. I am loving the groupset of the people! I am looking forward to enjoying it over our short Canadian summer/autumn to come! So fun!
This is amazing, two years ago I bought a used Trek SL1000 from 2007, and by looking at how to paint my own bike I found this channel. While I was at it, I changed some parts to make it eventually compatible with an R7000 105. 5 Months ago, I bought every part, and finished upgrading the groupset around February. Funny enough, I didn't get the standard 105, and looked everywhere for the silver version, now I see you went for the same groupset! What are the odds. I might send you the picture of my finished bike for the next GCN Tech video and see if I can get in the Bike Vault!
Dear Alex: mate good on you for not only addressing but also owning the whole “crankset” kerfuffle. Speaks loud and clear to those of us who can dish it out but also take it. Awesome build and is only getting better. Love your work! 👍👍
I upgraded my bike to R7000 too. It was a cheap upgrade and it shifts perfectly! That generation 105 is definitely the group set of the people. All my road bikes have been 105 :D
I have a full silver 5800 105 groupset still boxed and ready to go onto a custom built steel frame. I also have had the same groupset on a Dolan Ares since 2015.
You're singing my song! I'm 69, still tinkering and improving whenever possible. I love the idea of wringing another lifetime from vintage frames whenever possible, something I've been doing for decades. I'm putting the final touches on a 1982 Miyata Three Ten, upgraded to 9spd Ultegra 6503 triple. It started with 27" wheels (630mm bead diameter), so it can now accommodate up to 700c×35 tires. I'll be watching for the race results on your new old bike! Keep those spare parts, they're golden!😁
A couple of years ago I bought a new Colnago that came with the 105 mechanical groupset. The shifting was slow and the braking was mushy. I replaced them with Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 groupset. It was a world of difference.
I ran into the same 11spd snag when trying to upgrade my Claris gravel bike to 105. I learned about 11spd road hubs that day. I returned everything and went with GRX 2x10. Tiagra level, but surprisingly smooth. I have another bike with R7000 mechanical, and other than the smaller gear gaps, I barely notice a difference.
Finished a R7000 105 upgrade on my 1980 steel frame, (it's comfortable), about two years ago. Quiet happy with the results. The frame has no braze ons so stops/mounts have to be clamped.
i did the Shimano upgrade from 10sp to 11sp as well. The 10sp freehub was 2012...right before they started making the 10/11 compatible freehub. Had to order a 11sp freehub from another country (Spain) and it sat in US customs for a week, but ended up being SUPER worth it. (as I don't have a machinist buddy)
I understand wanting the shift cables hidden, but I would certainly have kept the Dura-Ace brake calipers. How much more would it have been to get the Dura Ace 9100 Levers and rear mech to be more correct for the team bike aspect? Pro team decals on a 105 bike seems silly.
I just did this exact thing to my son's older Cannondale. The thing is, the price difference between 105 and Ultegra was so little, 105 made no sense. You could have washed my car, and I'd have paid for your Ultegra upgrade.
True. Hence my 2007 Cannondale SystemSix has Ultegra. But I should have resisted the second hand price of my Roubaix Elite with Ultegra 2018 and gone with plan A: aluminium with 105 and preferable new, which would have had wider rims for wider tyres
@godlikecat $540 For new Ultegra 8000 front/rear derailleurs, HG800 cassette, new Dura Ace shifter and brake cables, 2 GP 5000 28mm tires, new Ebay Cannondale One 50/34 crank. I already had a Dura Ace 11speed chain, Ultegra 6800 brakes, and shifters off another bike. I sold all the old components off the Cannondale on Ebay, earning back $490.
As an older bike owner i love it. 2x10 speed 105 is all humanity needs. I couldn't source a shifter lever so i went with a Tiagra the newer upgrades are supper nice. I think a video about all the small changes and improvements that went into the hoods would be interesting. Do you think we could interview any Shimano engineers?
The good : NICE bike colour. Brown seat goes well with the blue. WHITE bar tape super impractical. The bad : the red rims just CLASH - enjoy riding it !!!
@@SMlFFY85 Had to like your comment. I'm retired, and I realized the other day that when I shop for food, I don't have to pay close attention to the cost. (Yet. There's always a "yet.") I built an '05 LeMond Tete de Course over a period of months, as budget and component availability allowed, and I do have a modern BMC to ride as well, so I am able to enjoy a couple of different experiences for a while yet. Again, "yet."
Great video Alex 😊. Regards from Spain. I don't like modern bikes, so I like this kind of videos so much. I want to see you in the race, making justice to the bike, good luck! 🙌🏻💪🏻😊
Nicely executed upgrade in keeping with the Trek. I do think you’ve found a problem that didn’t need solving. Brake power same. 1 gear ratio more is not worth £300 IMO. Gorgeous though the 7800 chain set is; this would have been the area to change adding a a semi compact or compact. Lastly the 7800 Trek originally is everything so to 7000 105 has just reduced re-sale value. I’ve got a 5.2 Madone - 9 speed ultegra is fine. Just snagged a 5.5 with 7800 DA for my son. we won’t be swapping it out Enjoy the retro speed ! Thanks for your work on the channel Alex
While somewhat controversial I had your back in defending the choices you made (even machining out the back of your cassette). Then I saw the white bar tape and said "Alex, you're on your own."
Well done: that is a beautiful bike, brown saddle and all. The white bar-tape is fine if you can keep your gloves clean and cover it in cling wrap in the workshop. It does look a bit retro, but it has the insouciant grace that a lot of current I'm-ever-so-serious bikes lack. But please, don't knock side-exiting cables. On long-distance rides they were great for resting your thumbs on - it was a sort-of stretching exercise - and it really made your hands feel better on a long stage. And on one multi-day brevet a chum dried his newly-washed socks on them, clothes-pegs and all.
I'm on board with all others saying brown bar tape!! I've put a brown Brooks saddle with matching brown tape on my Focus CX and everyone comments on it... It's a cool throwback vibe on a modern bike and it adds a touch of class fit for a fancy sports car! Do it!!
I had the Trek Madone for £500 on GCN tech 285 bike vault. I change mine for Ultegra R8000 for similar reasons, part modern but still with some elements harming back to its retro beginnings. Lovely.
You glossed over how difficult it is to get cables through those PRO Vibe aero bars! I’ve got some and it’s really hard, even using the Park cable routing kit! They do look good though!
I use Shimano deore for my mountain bike it is clutched from chain slap and is paired with a 10 speed 11-34 and 11-36 depending on what I'm riding. I will also rebuild the cassette with other cassettes if needed. The derailleur is able to be adjusted up and down from massive 50-51 to 32-34 low gear very easily as long as you know what you are doing.
I love it! I personally would have attempted to just replace the shifters and cassette, but it looks great how you did it. The bars will make a huge difference as well
Ive got bikes with Ultegra R8000, 105 R7000 & Tiagra 4700 & there isnt a lot in it, Tiagra set up well is a great groupset (only slight negative is its 10 speed, but that missing sprocket is only the 13t one & 12t to 14t is fine).
I'm a stylist and have styled many a visual shoot. The brown saddle really works and tones in with the wheel decals and is a directly opposing tone to the blue. So yeah, stick with it. The white bar tape works too with the TREK logo decals.
I have Dura Ace 9 spd and it's still amazing. I also have ultegra di2 and electronic shifting is also amazing. The DA crank is a work of art compared to modern shimano crank tho.
Converted my Trek Domane from 10sp to 11sp R7000 105, cw compact crank. A Sunrace 11sp cassette will fit onto a 10sp hub as it comes with a spacer. Runs well and I now have lower gearing for the hills.
Finally a video nested in reason!! Mechanical 105 is A Tier only bested by Ultergra which given the delaminating cranks puts it A Tier as well. Mechanical 12 speed 105 is the only group 99% of us need. Tigard would also suit 99% of riders but it need to at least be updated to 11 speed.
Have to say though, 11 speed mechanical Ultegra can now be bought for under 600 EUR, so that is groupset of the people territory as well. Fitted one to my Ritchie steel racer and absolutely love it
I did something similar, not a road bike, but an old TT bike. Based on a Giant TCR with 10 speed Dura Ace. I did however also replace the crankset as I wanted 165 cranks. I also went for an Ultegra rear Derailleur just coz I though it look good. Like you I left the brakes, as they stop the bike just fine.
Beautiful setup. I'm still a huge fan of mechanical 105. I would agree with the majority, though, that the brown saddle isn't a good match to the rest of the bike.
I went to marshal at my club's TT on Thursday evening. I went on a 1989 531 Tom Crowther with Campag Athena. Down Tube Levers. I was the only one there with Campagnolo. I was the only one there riding on tubs. :-) A competitor with Di2 had a failure. The rear mech stopped working. He was a DNS. Solihull CC K25/7.5.
My buddy has a 2012 GT, we put the R7000 group set on it. He loves it. He also has a R9000 crank with power meter. Money well spent. Crank was used. Added the 4iiii power to it.
I’ve got an oclv 5200 that I somehow got for £20, pieced together a 105 groupset from spares and eBay and some Mavic alloy wheels. About £200 all in and a great bike
Love videos like this. The only way to counteract the high price elitism in cycling and bring more people in is with project like this. Coming from the car hobby this is what you would call a resto-mod. Modifying a classic bike with new parts to keep it relevant, make it look cool, or compete.
Love the bike Alex. Totally into the 105 setup. As for the saddle! Yeh it's a big clash, brown and blue is always difficult, you gotta get the right shades. Go for the white, it'll do the bike proud! Pointless having something on there that draws the eye negatively when the rest of the bike bike is so good!
😂 I ride the new mechanical 105, levers, brakes and derailleurs but have a Miche 14 to 30 12speed cassette and Chinese 34 /53 VXM chainrings on carbon cranks with a KMC chain. Changes really well, nice close gears and who really needs a gear much higher 100 inches. All on a Hyyge model S frame. Love it
@gcntech would (technically) just replacing the HUD, cassette and chain work as well? do you technically need to replace the brakes, and front/rear derailleur?
So cool Alex. Pretty similar to what I did with my first road bike. I had an old felt F4 with ultegra and dura ace but put R7000 on it for the reason of the gear cable sticking out from the hoods. That bike and those components has now become a 2015 propel with the same pro vibe bars. I guess it's not the same bike anymore 🤔😂
White bar tape looks great, definitely change out the saddle for black or white. Why change the brake calipers? Wouldn't the old Dura-Ace work as well or better than the 105?
Using mechanical rim brake 105 since December. Keep having to adjust front derailure to get into big chain ring. Good luck 😅. I love it when it works though.
The Bontrager hubs are made by DT Swiss (240 hubs I believe) - you should be able to just get an 11 speed freehub and axle end - so you don’t have to keep machining cassettes.
Mine is even more retro, early 1980s steel (753) with a mix of modernish components inc wheels. Faster than my carbon bike up hill but obviously as aero as a British Leyland Sherpa ... It gets raced regularly in road bike time trials, particularly hilly events. It's not particularly light but is very direct and makes you push on. Bikes ... you find a diamond in the mass of choice out there, its not always obvious what's going to stand out or be perfect.
Like my bike, from 1983; a hodge-podge of my favorite components on a Serotta Colorado LT frame - parts that are near impossible to find/buy anymore, like the very old and lovely Campagnolo seat post and Mavic crankset.
I have cable DA on my 2016 Specialissima and cable Ultegra on my Roubaix SL7, both work perfectly and weigh so little. Where will I get a comparable mechanical groupset when eventually I buy a new bike? I've tried electronic and don't want it on my simple bicycle.
I swapped my Trek 5200's Dura Ace 7700 with 105 5800 and it instantly improved the use ability of it. Better braking, better shifter ergonomics and easier gears. Best upgrade I did to it.
Since not being the biggest bike mechanic myself I'm just wondering if it would just work upgrading the Shifters with 10-speed 105s or ultegras but keeping the front and rear mech as well as the breaks original? Just upgrading the leavers so to say, to get the more modern look but keeping the excellent components?
You can keep the bar tape, but I think you need that white saddle and ditch the tan sidewalls. Or keep the ugly saddle and tan tires, but maybe add black or brown bar tape. There is a lot of colors going on there. Love the content Alex, thanks!
Nice work...on the contentious issue of the finishing kit, I strongly feel BROWN handlebar tape (ideally a close tonal match to the saddle), would look incredibly smart and distinctive! Cheers.
this video finally convinced me to replace my faulty 105 5500 for a R7000 in silver as well - money is tight but damn its just a pain not being able to enjoy the season start and fearing for dear life when commuting
Nice upgrade! I’ve been considering Chorus as an option to my well worn SR, I think the 105 was a good choice. I’m a big fan of the brown saddle, very classy and very classic! However, you can’t beat the clean look of a white saddle. Tough call😊
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Why bother?
My favourite..... From the 80s Shimano 600... Maybe you are too young to remember! It looks so minimalist compared to today's offering, matching those skinny Reynolds tubes of the day. So pretty!
Drilled out cassette, like the good old thymes, leave some shavings it's the star mechanic secret sauce 😂
I did the swap from 10 to 11 on my 2016 Felt. Took the washer between locknut and cone from the left side and moved to the right.That shifted the hub enough for 11 speed cassette. Then touch up the dish on the wheel.
I would keep your brown saddle on.......When you are riding, no one will see the color of your saddle, and therefore the rest will look like it fits. Looks great with the upgrades you made to it. Completely understand your points to keeping true to the OG bike.
Yeah, the new Di2 105 can no longer be called the groupset of the people. Not at that price.
I hope that Sensah or Ltwoo keeps upping their game so that Shimano and other big companies will be forced to keep their prices down.
I found Merida Reacto 6000 w/ 105 di2 that’s about $400 pricier than 4000 w/ 105 mechanical. In total Reacto 6000 is ~$2500 because it’s 20% off. Do you think it’s worth the price to get the 6000 over the 4000?
When Tiagra goes 11 speed, there will honestly be no discussion. It will 100% take over.
@@FlourescentPotatoThere will be no more Tiagra. It's CUES from now on. The top version will be 11-speed - however it's uncertain if there will be a cable brake version.
Cycling for...menial gains.
Cliplesss pedals(are silly)= Don't help the average rider and professionals get a menial gain.
The light shifting of those Dura-Ace shifters was sublime. That was peak mechanical Dura-Ace.
R9100 hs the lightest, crispiest, cleanest shift I ever experienced in mechanical shifting. You don't even need to push with a finger to upshift: just have your hands on the shifters and move your hand slightly inwards to push the brake / shift lever.
Still have it on one of my bikes. Amazing
Can It be use the 9100 rear derailleur with 105 Shifters?
Yes, I have (very) old Dura-Ace mech. shifters. They shift smoothly and reliably -- and you don't need to remember to keep the battery charged!
Disagree. I've had Dura-ace in 9, 10, 11, & 12spd. The first generation 11spd 9000 was the best working & looking.
you need brown bar tape to match the saddle, plus you'll get the bonus of hiding a little dirt
Very suspicious use of "hiding a little dirt" 🤣
Yep. My thought too. Tan sounds better than brown. Suitable then for the pedal version of the Distinguished Gentlemen's Ride.
@@thetriumphsprint tan/brown whatever. My point was that you can use the same handler tape color as the accent color of the saddle and it would look like you picked the color on purpose instead of having only some random accent in a different color
LOL the 'Magical Spares Cupboard'! Owned it! 😄 👊
I am the grateful owner of a 2003 Trek 5900 USPS Lance Armstrong bike very similar to yours. I bought mine in near perfect original condition for $600 US. We upgraded the bars to a shorter, shallower bar and installed new Sora shifters. I am super comfortable and very happy with this bike. I am still using the original wheels with Continental GP5000 tires. Thank you for sharing yours!
Awesome! These old race bikes are great fun 🙌 You don't need to spend loads to get a great bike 👌
the 7800 shifters would still work fine. Just spray some WD40 in the cable port and click them thru over and over until they start shifting again.
solid tyre choice, been really happy since switching to these, best grip and great all rounder on the road
Why the Sora shifters? They are much rougher in quality, what a downgrade. 😳
What width on your Gp5000 tires? I've got this frame as well, and hoping to go to 28mm.
You could've just use a HG700 11-34 cassette as it's compatible with 10speed freehubs
today i learned
Yep, I did exactly that. 🎉
It can work on some hubs, but on others there might be an issue with the clearance to the spokes.
Most people don't live in the mountains.
@@Adonis-qj1nq I suppose it's possible, but I've had success on several different wheels.
I’ve got a ‘99 Trek 5200 that I upgraded from 9-speed Triple Ultegra to 10-speed 105 and love it. Nice work!
After using a quite heavy hybrid for a decade, this 60 year old gave myself as an upgrade to a new Cannondale Quick 1, with mostly Shimano 105 components, 2XL, this spring. I am loving the groupset of the people! I am looking forward to enjoying it over our short Canadian summer/autumn to come! So fun!
I'd have the brown seat over the white bar tape every day of the week.
oooh, controversy! 😜
@@gcntech get brown cork tape for handlebars, keep brown seat.... sorted !!!
Well…you say you have it, but it does not mean you like or love it, right? 😂
White bar tape usually turns brown eventually, so Alex saved a step. 🤷♂️
Alex is awesome! Rim brake bikes will become like vinyl records and never die.
This is amazing, two years ago I bought a used Trek SL1000 from 2007, and by looking at how to paint my own bike I found this channel. While I was at it, I changed some parts to make it eventually compatible with an R7000 105. 5 Months ago, I bought every part, and finished upgrading the groupset around February. Funny enough, I didn't get the standard 105, and looked everywhere for the silver version, now I see you went for the same groupset! What are the odds. I might send you the picture of my finished bike for the next GCN Tech video and see if I can get in the Bike Vault!
Dear Alex: mate good on you for not only addressing but also owning the whole “crankset” kerfuffle. Speaks loud and clear to those of us who can dish it out but also take it.
Awesome build and is only getting better.
Love your work!
👍👍
Thanks Carlos 🙌 We think you'll agree... Alex has a smashing bike here 👌
You' re moving in the right direction - doesn' have to be newer or more expensive. I always think back on Graeme Obree and his approach to bikes!
I upgraded my bike to R7000 too. It was a cheap upgrade and it shifts perfectly! That generation 105 is definitely the group set of the people. All my road bikes have been 105 :D
I have that 10 speed Dura-Ace groupset and it shifts better than anything else I've tried.
Would you ever give electronic shifting a try?
@@gcntech Probably. Love the new wireless tech.
That's because this 10-sp gen was the peak.
@@Cram3rMKE Totally! I have the later 10 speed Ulterga with the hidden cables and it's not a patch on the older Dura-Ace.
@@gcntech fuck electronic shifting
I just bought a 2009 tarmac with 10 speed 105 with the side cables. Upgraded to 11 speed 105 w/aero carbon bars internally routed. love it
I have a full silver 5800 105 groupset still boxed and ready to go onto a custom built steel frame. I also have had the same groupset on a Dolan Ares since 2015.
You're singing my song! I'm 69, still tinkering and improving whenever possible. I love the idea of wringing another lifetime from vintage frames whenever possible, something I've been doing for decades. I'm putting the final touches on a 1982 Miyata Three Ten, upgraded to 9spd Ultegra 6503 triple. It started with 27" wheels (630mm bead diameter), so it can now accommodate up to 700c×35 tires. I'll be watching for the race results on your new old bike! Keep those spare parts, they're golden!😁
Have you thought of Brown bar tape? I think it would tie in better especially since a white seat would provide proof of a soiling situation.
Alex has his own style 🤣
A couple of years ago I bought a new Colnago that came with the 105 mechanical groupset. The shifting was slow and the braking was mushy. I replaced them with Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 groupset. It was a world of difference.
You probably just have not tuned it properly.
I ran into the same 11spd snag when trying to upgrade my Claris gravel bike to 105. I learned about 11spd road hubs that day. I returned everything and went with GRX 2x10. Tiagra level, but surprisingly smooth. I have another bike with R7000 mechanical, and other than the smaller gear gaps, I barely notice a difference.
Finished a R7000 105 upgrade on my 1980 steel frame, (it's comfortable), about two years ago. Quiet happy with the results. The frame has no braze ons so stops/mounts have to be clamped.
You won't have a problem Alex ,its the rider not the bike. As long as you got it set up right. 😃👍
i did the Shimano upgrade from 10sp to 11sp as well. The 10sp freehub was 2012...right before they started making the 10/11 compatible freehub. Had to order a 11sp freehub from another country (Spain) and it sat in US customs for a week, but ended up being SUPER worth it. (as I don't have a machinist buddy)
I think the 11-34 11 speed cassette can actually fit the 10 speed hub. 11-32 wont. HG700 and HG800.
I understand wanting the shift cables hidden, but I would certainly have kept the Dura-Ace brake calipers. How much more would it have been to get the Dura Ace 9100 Levers and rear mech to be more correct for the team bike aspect? Pro team decals on a 105 bike seems silly.
I just did this exact thing to my son's older Cannondale. The thing is, the price difference between 105 and Ultegra was so little, 105 made no sense. You could have washed my car, and I'd have paid for your Ultegra upgrade.
True. Hence my 2007 Cannondale SystemSix has Ultegra. But I should have resisted the second hand price of my Roubaix Elite with Ultegra 2018 and gone with plan A: aluminium with 105 and preferable new, which would have had wider rims for wider tyres
how much did you spend on it? and was it second hand?
@godlikecat $540 For new Ultegra 8000 front/rear derailleurs, HG800 cassette, new Dura Ace shifter and brake cables, 2 GP 5000 28mm tires, new Ebay Cannondale One 50/34 crank. I already had a Dura Ace 11speed chain, Ultegra 6800 brakes, and shifters off another bike. I sold all the old components off the Cannondale on Ebay, earning back $490.
Yea but think about the long term. When things start to wear out you be wishing you went 105! 😂
As an older bike owner i love it. 2x10 speed 105 is all humanity needs. I couldn't source a shifter lever so i went with a Tiagra the newer upgrades are supper nice. I think a video about all the small changes and improvements that went into the hoods would be interesting.
Do you think we could interview any Shimano engineers?
Tiagra 10 speed has a different cable pull. It will not work well with a 10 speed 105 rear derailleur.
The good : NICE bike colour. Brown seat goes well with the blue. WHITE bar tape super impractical. The bad : the red rims just CLASH - enjoy riding it !!!
There is something fun about all those colours though 😉 Alex watching the fire in the comments 😈
@@gcntech For SURE LOL
i'd choose this bike over a disc-brake superbike any day of the week ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Why choose? Own both, and ride the one that fits your mood!
There is something special about these bikes 👌
@@dlbutler Okay, Richie Rich
@@SMlFFY85 Had to like your comment. I'm retired, and I realized the other day that when I shop for food, I don't have to pay close attention to the cost. (Yet. There's always a "yet.") I built an '05 LeMond Tete de Course over a period of months, as budget and component availability allowed, and I do have a modern BMC to ride as well, so I am able to enjoy a couple of different experiences for a while yet. Again, "yet."
Great video Alex 😊. Regards from Spain. I don't like modern bikes, so I like this kind of videos so much. I want to see you in the race, making justice to the bike, good luck! 🙌🏻💪🏻😊
We love all bikes 🙌 Alex built up a great budget Crit bike and raced it here 👉ruclips.net/video/6dCIEshWuZE/видео.html
@@gcntech I already saw it. Anyway, thank you very much 😊
Andy owning up to that inside joke about the cranks really makes this a more fun video! Great bike!
Two GCN inside jokes in one here 🤣
Nicely executed upgrade in keeping with the Trek. I do think you’ve found a problem that didn’t need solving. Brake power same. 1 gear ratio more is not worth £300 IMO. Gorgeous though the 7800 chain set is; this would have been the area to change adding a a semi compact or compact.
Lastly the 7800 Trek originally is everything so to 7000 105 has just reduced re-sale value.
I’ve got a 5.2 Madone - 9 speed ultegra is fine. Just snagged a 5.5 with 7800 DA for my son. we won’t be swapping it out
Enjoy the retro speed ! Thanks for your work on the channel Alex
While somewhat controversial I had your back in defending the choices you made (even machining out the back of your cassette). Then I saw the white bar tape and said "Alex, you're on your own."
😁
bar tape the same colour as the seat, brown leather.
Omg this was so good. OG 105 the gs of the people! Right on brother, groovy man and outta sight!
Well done: that is a beautiful bike, brown saddle and all. The white bar-tape is fine if you can keep your gloves clean and cover it in cling wrap in the workshop. It does look a bit retro, but it has the insouciant grace that a lot of current I'm-ever-so-serious bikes lack.
But please, don't knock side-exiting cables. On long-distance rides they were great for resting your thumbs on - it was a sort-of stretching exercise - and it really made your hands feel better on a long stage. And on one multi-day brevet a chum dried his newly-washed socks on them, clothes-pegs and all.
😁
I'm on board with all others saying brown bar tape!! I've put a brown Brooks saddle with matching brown tape on my Focus CX and everyone comments on it... It's a cool throwback vibe on a modern bike and it adds a touch of class fit for a fancy sports car! Do it!!
I had the Trek Madone for £500 on GCN tech 285 bike vault. I change mine for Ultegra R8000 for similar reasons, part modern but still with some elements harming back to its retro beginnings. Lovely.
You glossed over how difficult it is to get cables through those PRO Vibe aero bars! I’ve got some and it’s really hard, even using the Park cable routing kit! They do look good though!
I use Shimano deore for my mountain bike it is clutched from chain slap and is paired with a 10 speed 11-34 and 11-36 depending on what I'm riding. I will also rebuild the cassette with other cassettes if needed. The derailleur is able to be adjusted up and down from massive 50-51 to 32-34 low gear very easily as long as you know what you are doing.
I’ve taken my sram wireless group set off my Cervelo R5 VWD (2012) with 11 speed Ultegra. Very happy with the change…
I love it! I personally would have attempted to just replace the shifters and cassette, but it looks great how you did it. The bars will make a huge difference as well
Ive got bikes with Ultegra R8000, 105 R7000 & Tiagra 4700 & there isnt a lot in it, Tiagra set up well is a great groupset (only slight negative is its 10 speed, but that missing sprocket is only the 13t one & 12t to 14t is fine).
Rim brakes for the win in 2024❤
Some great affordable rim brake options out there 🙌
I still love them. Because I know how to maintain them. Getting new wheels can take work though nowadays. But you don't do that very often.
Pros used rim brakes for decades now you need disk brakes to ride round the park.
I wish rim brakes were still more common
@@bobfunk5055if you ride around the park you dont need a road bike either.
I wish component companies would go back to polished components again.😕
I am on a Tiagra 3x10. It's a beast and unbeatable on steep passes.
I'm a stylist and have styled many a visual shoot. The brown saddle really works and tones in with the wheel decals and is a directly opposing tone to the blue. So yeah, stick with it. The white bar tape works too with the TREK logo decals.
I have Dura Ace 9 spd and it's still amazing. I also have ultegra di2 and electronic shifting is also amazing. The DA crank is a work of art compared to modern shimano crank tho.
Converted my Trek Domane from 10sp to 11sp R7000 105, cw compact crank. A Sunrace 11sp cassette will fit onto a 10sp hub as it comes with a spacer. Runs well and I now have lower gearing for the hills.
Finally a video nested in reason!! Mechanical 105 is A Tier only bested by Ultergra which given the delaminating cranks puts it A Tier as well.
Mechanical 12 speed 105 is the only group 99% of us need. Tigard would also suit 99% of riders but it need to at least be updated to 11 speed.
I appreciate the effort to bring cycling tech back down to earth. Thanks for the video!
Have to say though, 11 speed mechanical Ultegra can now be bought for under 600 EUR, so that is groupset of the people territory as well. Fitted one to my Ritchie steel racer and absolutely love it
I did something similar, not a road bike, but an old TT bike. Based on a Giant TCR with 10 speed Dura Ace. I did however also replace the crankset as I wanted 165 cranks. I also went for an Ultegra rear Derailleur just coz I though it look good. Like you I left the brakes, as they stop the bike just fine.
Beautiful setup. I'm still a huge fan of mechanical 105. I would agree with the majority, though, that the brown saddle isn't a good match to the rest of the bike.
I went to marshal at my club's TT on Thursday evening.
I went on a 1989 531 Tom Crowther with Campag Athena. Down Tube Levers. I was the only one there with Campagnolo. I was the only one there riding on tubs. :-)
A competitor with Di2 had a failure. The rear mech stopped working. He was a DNS.
Solihull CC K25/7.5.
Did a group set upgrade on my Madone 6.9 red dot and really have the feeling of her being pretty in line with modern bikes (except aerodynamics)
did the exact same for a trek sl 1000 TDF earlier in the year. Absolutely the best thing I could've done.
300 pounds for the upgrade…That is some shrewd, savvy shopping in the used parts market! Agree with your pick of the white bar tape.
My buddy has a 2012 GT, we put the R7000 group set on it. He loves it.
He also has a R9000 crank with power meter. Money well spent. Crank was used. Added the 4iiii power to it.
Your spares cupboard is well lit alex😂😂😂😂😂
Probably got cctv on it too! 🤣🤣
I ride a 105 R7000 and I love it, can’t say I blame you for the switch
You should get some of ag2rs bib shorts from last year to go with the saddle, embrace the brown
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@0:05 - Why is ditching Dura Ace a "big risk"? Will a meteor hit the earth? Will someone die as a result of it? Will it make the channel bankrupt?
I’ve got an oclv 5200 that I somehow got for £20, pieced together a 105 groupset from spares and eBay and some Mavic alloy wheels. About £200 all in and a great bike
Love videos like this. The only way to counteract the high price elitism in cycling and bring more people in is with project like this. Coming from the car hobby this is what you would call a resto-mod. Modifying a classic bike with new parts to keep it relevant, make it look cool, or compete.
Great upgrade, great bike! White saddle might be the cherry on top.
Love the bike Alex. Totally into the 105 setup. As for the saddle! Yeh it's a big clash, brown and blue is always difficult, you gotta get the right shades. Go for the white, it'll do the bike proud! Pointless having something on there that draws the eye negatively when the rest of the bike bike is so good!
😂 I ride the new mechanical 105, levers, brakes and derailleurs but have a Miche 14 to 30 12speed cassette and Chinese 34 /53 VXM chainrings on carbon cranks with a KMC chain. Changes really well, nice close gears and who really needs a gear much higher 100 inches. All on a Hyyge model S frame. Love it
Very nice! I loved the bikeshop with a lathe 😊
Alex loves having Tom Sturdy down the road! If you need more from Tom this video might help 👉ruclips.net/video/6BatHcXm6B0/видео.html
The r7000 cassette has a removable spacer which allows it to fit into even an 8-speed freehub. could that have been a 6800 cassette?
@gcntech would (technically) just replacing the HUD, cassette and chain work as well? do you technically need to replace the brakes, and front/rear derailleur?
So cool Alex. Pretty similar to what I did with my first road bike. I had an old felt F4 with ultegra and dura ace but put R7000 on it for the reason of the gear cable sticking out from the hoods.
That bike and those components has now become a 2015 propel with the same pro vibe bars. I guess it's not the same bike anymore 🤔😂
White bar tape looks great, definitely change out the saddle for black or white. Why change the brake calipers? Wouldn't the old Dura-Ace work as well or better than the 105?
Ripper bike mate!
Was it an upgrade to chance the brakes? I would have thought just the shift system and the cassette would do the trick 🤔
It took me a while to find the polished 105 shifters. The silver just looks epic.
Nice build for the real world!! Thanks for putting this one together.
Using mechanical rim brake 105 since December. Keep having to adjust front derailure to get into big chain ring. Good luck 😅. I love it when it works though.
There it is. Mechanical front derailleurs are the work of the devil. Di2 is *chefskiss*
Both my BMC 02 three roadbike and Felt F5x cyclo have Shimano 105 gears. And will be for years to come.
Love this series 😊 nice build and good reasoning to swap out to R7000 looking awesome ❤ well done Alex.. 🚴🏻👍😃 Pete
The Bontrager hubs are made by DT Swiss (240 hubs I believe) - you should be able to just get an 11 speed freehub and axle end - so you don’t have to keep machining cassettes.
Mine is even more retro, early 1980s steel (753) with a mix of modernish components inc wheels.
Faster than my carbon bike up hill but obviously as aero as a British Leyland Sherpa ...
It gets raced regularly in road bike time trials, particularly hilly events. It's not particularly light but is very direct and makes you push on.
Bikes ... you find a diamond in the mass of choice out there, its not always obvious what's going to stand out or be perfect.
Like my bike, from 1983; a hodge-podge of my favorite components on a Serotta Colorado LT frame - parts that are near impossible to find/buy anymore, like the very old and lovely Campagnolo seat post and Mavic crankset.
You've sold me! I'm doing this, yesterday.
I have cable DA on my 2016 Specialissima and cable Ultegra on my Roubaix SL7, both work perfectly and weigh so little. Where will I get a comparable mechanical groupset when eventually I buy a new bike? I've tried electronic and don't want it on my simple bicycle.
Good idea on the upgrades! As a result of your video, I am doing the same. DA 7800 to R7000 11 speed. Just ordered the parts and under $300. Cheers!
I went for a 105 group set on my TCR. I just didn't want to have to change even more batteries for the shifting. Price was another consideration.
This bike is absolutely gorgeous.
R7000 in sliver is very difficult to find. Alex is a lucky bastard.
I swapped my Trek 5200's Dura Ace 7700 with 105 5800 and it instantly improved the use ability of it. Better braking, better shifter ergonomics and easier gears. Best upgrade I did to it.
Awesome! It's so good when those upgrades work perfectly 👌
Love the brown saddle, it compliments the blue frame and the white bars!
Since not being the biggest bike mechanic myself I'm just wondering if it would just work upgrading the Shifters with 10-speed 105s or ultegras but keeping the front and rear mech as well as the breaks original? Just upgrading the leavers so to say, to get the more modern look but keeping the excellent components?
You can keep the bar tape, but I think you need that white saddle and ditch the tan sidewalls. Or keep the ugly saddle and tan tires, but maybe add black or brown bar tape. There is a lot of colors going on there. Love the content Alex, thanks!
Nice work...on the contentious issue of the finishing kit, I strongly feel BROWN handlebar tape (ideally a close tonal match to the saddle), would look incredibly smart and distinctive! Cheers.
This saddle and bar tape choice is really messing people up 🤣
this video finally convinced me to replace my faulty 105 5500 for a R7000 in silver as well - money is tight but damn its just a pain not being able to enjoy the season start and fearing for dear life when commuting
Nice upgrade! I’ve been considering Chorus as an option to my well worn SR, I think the 105 was a good choice. I’m a big fan of the brown saddle, very classy and very classic! However, you can’t beat the clean look of a white saddle. Tough call😊
The narrow handlebar at 4:20 is spreading in my location but puts more load on the wrists for steering during longer rides meaning more fatigue .
Vintage cool road bikes never die. If you ❤ it. It shouldn’t matter. Give it life! 😍
Yes, although steel ones are easier to keep on the road.
BEAUTIFUL brown saddle + white bartape!!!